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Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcasting for the What do we Determined?

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Speaker 1: It was, Ah, that's right. I think this is the

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Speaker 1: nineteenth consecutive year at this time, so it's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Got a bunch to get to this hour. As we

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Speaker 1: get you ready for the first Game one of the

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals, the funky col Mark Medina will join us.

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Speaker 1: Wayne Gretzky made a spot on prediction for Game one

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Speaker 1: of the Western Excuse me, Game one of the Stanley

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Speaker 1: Cup Finals during the second period break yesterday, Wait till

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Speaker 1: you hear it. Plus, uh, I do want to mention

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Speaker 1: that Derek Carr story, which is a pretty good one.

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Speaker 1: Pretty good one, and you can be the biggest Derek

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Speaker 1: Carr hater. Then you're like, yeah, kind of seems like

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Speaker 1: a good enough dude. So, but it is a Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and you know, on social media they call it, you know,

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Speaker 1: throwback Thursday. But Jason Stewart is the anti well everything normal.

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Speaker 1: So what became a Dan Byer idea and then transferred

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Speaker 1: into a Jason Stewart production, we call don't call it

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Speaker 1: a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Don't call it a throwback Thursday.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So don't call to throwback Thursday. Essentially is a

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Speaker 1: look back, mostly in sports, but some other places at

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Speaker 1: the year that was Jay Stewart was the year we're

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Doug. I'll take it from here. I want

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Speaker 3: the listeners and everybody involved in the show to think

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Speaker 3: about the year two thousand. What were you doing twenty

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Speaker 3: five years ago? You were probably uh, it was right

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Speaker 3: before learning the term hanging chad. Hanging chad was a

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Speaker 3: very popular term for a few weeks in two thousand,

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Speaker 3: but before we got to there. Larry Bird Hall of

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Speaker 3: of the last Indiana Pacers team to go to the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals. You forget Larry Bird was a head coach.

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Speaker 3: You'd probably remember that Reggie Miller was on the team,

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Speaker 3: Mark Jackson was on the team. Jalen Rose was paid

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Speaker 3: a lot of money to play for the Pacers and

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Speaker 3: they but they ran into the first of three Lakers

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Speaker 3: NBA Championships, of course, the Shaq Kobe three peat. But

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Speaker 3: we're focused on the Pacers because tonight they take on

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Speaker 3: the Thunder in the NBA Finals and you're thinking, what

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Speaker 3: was the last time they played in a series of

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Speaker 3: this magnitude, And the answer is twenty five years ago.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to focus on that and how the

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Speaker 3: listener think about that for a while. They lost in

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Speaker 3: six games. I remember if I remember right, and you

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Speaker 3: tell me, Doug, was that the pass from Shack to Kobe?

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Speaker 3: Was that the series? Or am I thinking of a

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Speaker 4: It was actually against the Blazers in the Western Conference

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Speaker 3: That's what I was. The Blazers in the same.

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Speaker 3: There you go. It fits in dan Byer other than

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Speaker 3: the Shack to Kobe Loob pass. What do you remember

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Speaker 4: Can I tell you what I think is interesting because

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Speaker 4: it pertains to this Pacers team. On my Sunday Show

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Speaker 4: with Mike Harmon. I compared this NBA Finals to the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl matchup we had in two thousand. It's not

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Speaker 4: the NFL season of two thousand, it's the ninety nine season.

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Speaker 4: And don't you know, kind of a baby blue color

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Speaker 1: Kevin Dyson, Kevin, Yes, the yard.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand is right in my wheelhouse. But I have

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Speaker 1: a lot going on, right. That was my senior year

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Speaker 1: that year Like that was there was a lot and

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Speaker 1: not a lot that I can honestly square to you.

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Speaker 5: Go ahead, couldn't you?

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Speaker 4: Weren't you knocking on the door of a final four?

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Speaker 1: We had won, but regardless of that game, and then

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so I definitely have a distinct I can

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were, actually they were. Ohio State was a

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Speaker 4: But it was also a wacky year because Wisconsin made

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Speaker 4: I believe North Carolina was also an eight seed.

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Speaker 1: We're bringing it full circle. Who was the head coach there?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely Tulsa beat Cincinnati in the second round seventh seventh seed.

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Speaker 1: And the they lost to North Carolina? Yes, Miami the beat.

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Speaker 3: They played Miami and beat them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what North Carolina and Julius Peppers.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't that Bill?

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Speaker 3: At some point. Somebody needs to give me credit for that.

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Speaker 3: That's not my sho.

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Speaker 4: But I also nailed Miami beating Ohio State in that

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Speaker 4: but they lost in the second round after a Final

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Speaker 4: four appearance the year prior. Yeah, I just want a

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Speaker 4: little bit of credit for that, just like Jason wanted

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Speaker 3: Will Farnest go on in the room down, Come on,

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Speaker 4: What year for golf and what a year for Tiger Woods.

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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods VJ.

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Speaker 4: Singh won the Masters in two thousand, but then it

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Speaker 4: at Valhalla. A lot of the highlights that you see

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Speaker 4: two thousand the year of Tiger Woods in golf, one of.

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Speaker 3: The rare years in that era. That was the year

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Speaker 3: The New York Yankees were finishing off their third straight

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Speaker 1: Two thousand was the Olympics in Paris.

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Speaker 1: Sydney's so I said, two thousand Olympics in Sydney. Only

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Speaker 1: This was Remember they had the Dream Team in ninety

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Speaker 1: Vince Carter dunk reigned supreme is the only thing I

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Speaker 4: But they were in September of that year, which I

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Speaker 1: I don't remember anything. I remember very little about football

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Speaker 1: until until September eleventh, all right, was Sebody eleven of

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Speaker 1: Next year, Yeah, but I was. You know, you're traveling

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Speaker 3: To think that this was actually a good song. At

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Speaker 4: It was a comedy.

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Speaker 6: We would be remiss if we left Supernatural by Santana

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Speaker 6: Supernatural came out in ninety nine, two thousand, good front

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Speaker 4: It was the album of the Year.

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Speaker 3: The show Survivor debut, Doug Love Survivor.

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Speaker 1: You guys know that's I think the most influential show

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Speaker 4: Richard Hatch Nice?

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Speaker 1: The car, remember the car that they got.

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Speaker 4: Was she the runner up? She was? No, She was

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Speaker 3: That's right, she had the big Wisconsin accident. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I forgot the name of the show, but there was

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Speaker 3: That was literally what Richard Hatch said was his strategy there.

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Speaker 1: What I remember about Survivor was I was in Russia

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Speaker 1: All right, So Doug Gottliebs show here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Cue that music, because that man is walking in the

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Speaker 1: I have to point this out. Mark, this is actually

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Speaker 1: a real discussion. Buyer. Can you put your headset on,

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Speaker 7: Taylor Jenkins were fired that really like this is the

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Speaker 7: state of the NBA and coaching. But then there's the

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Speaker 7: quick have it that nothing surprises you, I think obviously.

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Speaker 1: But Mike Malone. But Mike Malone, like they had dysfunction

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Speaker 1: and disagreement between the GM and the coach. Yeah, the

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Speaker 1: GM used to be the coach's agent, like they are

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Speaker 1: all close. This was all kind of a plan and

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Speaker 1: they and they they improved every year and got to

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Speaker 1: the Conference finals. Again, we can just you can disagree

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Speaker 1: with the rotation a sub here, sub there, but I

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Speaker 1: can't really disagree with the results. I just I do

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Speaker 1: think it's a little different.

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Speaker 7: Well, without a doubt that's well, I was going to

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Speaker 7: get to that. You know, that was kind of the

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Speaker 7: initial reaction and the pivot of this is even a

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Speaker 7: whole other level because the next gets to the conference

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Speaker 7: finals for the first time in twenty five years. Tom

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Speaker 7: Thibodeaux has really elevated their team. Yeah, you can microanalyze

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Speaker 7: maybe short comings, but more had to do with the

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Speaker 7: fact that the Pacers had more depth. Klarl Anthone Towns

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Speaker 7: wasn't always consistent gunfoul trouble, and you know they sometimes

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Speaker 7: or oftentimes wilted double digit leads. So yeah, Tom Tibdau

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Speaker 7: is not blameless. I think when we're looking at what's

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Speaker 7: the next step, I can't think of, you know, what's

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Speaker 7: the there alternative. I mean, obviously there's going to be

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Speaker 7: interested in available candidates, and you know, the low hanging

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Speaker 7: fruit candidates are guys like Jay Wright because of his

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Speaker 7: Villanova ties, accomplished college coach Michael Malone because of his

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Speaker 7: pedagree went in a title Jeff van Gundy. You know,

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Speaker 7: he has nicked ties, He's gotten a lot of respect

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Speaker 7: within the Cloppers organization with how he turn around the team.

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Speaker 7: But if their witness test is okay, we need that

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Speaker 7: final piece to get to the next level to win

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Speaker 7: an NBA championship. Well that was Tom Thibodeau. And you

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Speaker 7: also can't guarantee maybe Boston because of next season with

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Speaker 7: Jason Tatum with his injuries. But this idea that you

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Speaker 7: know they can then just they can run it back,

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Speaker 7: even with having to go through a coaching transition. And

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Speaker 7: that's not guarantee because Cleveland's going to get better. Wherever

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Speaker 7: Giannis gets traded, it's going to get better. There's going

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Speaker 7: to be a vacuum in the Eastern Conference. But this

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Speaker 7: idea that you know they're entitled to, this I think

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Speaker 7: is fool's goal. You can make an argument that this

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Speaker 7: year's next overachieved expectations because partly we all expected that

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Speaker 7: it would be Boston and Cleveland in the East Finals.

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Speaker 7: But I think to New York's crewit they also, you know,

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Speaker 7: really maxed out in their potential.

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Speaker 1: Stug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio, Mark Madina

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Speaker 1: Our Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider is our guest. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so who's most likely to get that job?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think obviously it's it's really preliminary,

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Speaker 7: wide open at this point. But I think that you know,

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Speaker 7: they're going to go through the interview rounds just to

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Speaker 7: see who they can get. I mean, I think I

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Speaker 7: think Jeff ang Gunny should get the job. That would

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Speaker 7: be a very natural fit. He's defensive oriented, he has

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Speaker 7: ties with you know, the organization. He's shown in the

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Speaker 7: past that he can be a very good head coach.

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Speaker 7: I just don't know if negotiations will work out as such.

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Speaker 7: You know, I think another guy that would be really

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Speaker 7: good is Jay Wright, but I don't know if he

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Speaker 7: wants to leave the college game. And so then you

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Speaker 7: look at the next year. You know, Taylor Jenkins, Mike Budenholzer,

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Speaker 7: Mike Brown, all great head coaches. But again I'm comparing

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Speaker 7: this to Tom two though. I don't think any of

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Speaker 7: those coaches are better options than him. So those are

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Speaker 7: all respectable hires. But what I'm getting at, though, is

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Speaker 7: I think they you know, it's easy to fire the

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Speaker 7: head coach when you want to make a change, but

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Speaker 7: I think that they may have just created more problems

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Speaker 7: than solved it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Again, it's it's going to be super, super fascinating to watch. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what about Giannis, what's the Janis update? Where does he

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Speaker 1: want to go?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that part's not clear. But here's what I think

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Speaker 7: is going to happen. We're not going to hear a

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Speaker 7: lot of news developments next two weeks. Even the NBA

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Speaker 7: Draft is when things are going to start heating up

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Speaker 7: because that's when leverage plays go into play, with teams

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Speaker 7: being able to, you know, or more willing to trade

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Speaker 7: draft picks because of the NBA Draft. So I think

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Speaker 7: if there is a deal that's going to be made,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be on draft night, and if not,

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Speaker 7: it's going to be shortly after July first. I don't

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Speaker 7: think he's in the Bucks uniform now, to be clear,

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Speaker 7: he hasn't formally indicated that to the Bucks. The Bucks

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Speaker 7: formally haven't indicated they're going to be willing to entertain that.

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Speaker 7: But I think the writing is just on the wall

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Speaker 7: here that it's run its course, and I don't think

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Speaker 7: anyone's necessarily to blame. It's just the reality. They lost

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Speaker 7: three consecutive for shround matchup. Stamian Loward is expected to

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Speaker 7: have health issues next season with his injury, so the

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Speaker 7: idea of running it back here Max ceiling is probably

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Speaker 7: first round, so I think you know both parties will

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Speaker 7: come to the conclusion they're better off cutting their rosses,

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Speaker 7: having a respectful goodbye, giving a well deserved tribute video.

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Speaker 7: To be honest, sometimes that's not always the case. I

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Speaker 7: don't know where he goes, though, but I can stay

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Speaker 7: with conviction it's not going to be staying with the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's going to be fascinating.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant to the Knicks doesn't happen.

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Speaker 7: I doubt it. I think that the Suns want more

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Speaker 7: than what the Knicks have. I mean, they traded their

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Speaker 7: five first round picks to get Michel Bridges. I think

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Speaker 7: it would require more, and I think that they only

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Speaker 7: have three picks. I don't think coupling that with Karl

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Speaker 7: Anthon Towns will be enough for Phoenix's liking. I also

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Speaker 7: don't think the salaries match, so I think with Kevin,

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Speaker 7: clearly the writing is on the wall there. I mean, publicly,

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Speaker 7: Mattish Bias hasn't indicated that that's going to happen as

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Speaker 7: far as trading Kevin Durant, But I think that's the

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Speaker 7: end result. But if I had a guess, and this

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Speaker 7: isn't coming from anywhere, but I'm just connecting the dots,

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Speaker 7: I think he ends up in Miami. To be frank

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Speaker 7: with you, I think that's a surprise dark horse type

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Speaker 7: candidate and there's going to be questions on Okay, who

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Speaker 7: do you give up? But I think that Miami is

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Speaker 7: more amenable toward making a kind of deal than they

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Speaker 7: were in the past when they're in negotiations with getting

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Speaker 7: Damian Loward a few years ago, where they drew the

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Speaker 7: line in the sand and said, hey, Tyler Hero is

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Speaker 7: not going anywhere. Bam out of Bio is not going anywhere.

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Speaker 7: I think Miami's end goal is always about making sure

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Speaker 7: that there's still a playoff rebuilding team. But I think

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Speaker 7: that they're going to keep an open mind as far

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Speaker 7: as where they draw the line in the sands, only

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Speaker 7: because we just saw how this playoff exit was against Cleveland,

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Speaker 7: you know, losing four games, so it'll be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. That's the

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Speaker 1: voice of Mark Medina Mark, circling back real quick, what

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Speaker 1: are your expectations in the finals.

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Speaker 7: I picked Thunder and six. I think the Thunder we're

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Speaker 7: going to see that there's a clear difference between Shay

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Speaker 7: and Tyres Albert. I mean, Shea is the best score

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Speaker 7: in the league. Tyres is more passed first, that Shay

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Speaker 7: is more consistent. I think that we're going to see

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Speaker 7: passcal Siakam be the more dominant secondary player than Jaylen Williams,

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Speaker 7: but I think that Shay's dominance is going to outweigh everything.

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Speaker 7: I think the other thing is we're going to see

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Speaker 7: that the Thunder are the best defensive team for a reason.

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Speaker 7: They have so much wing depth, they have, you know,

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Speaker 7: in their back pocket, the ability to go big with

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Speaker 7: Isaiah Hartenstein and Jet Holmgren are both so I think

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Speaker 7: that it's going to be a six game series. It

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Speaker 7: will still be competitive, but I think that toward crunch time,

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Speaker 7: the Thunder will show why they are a much better team.

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Speaker 4: Before we get to the headlines of the day, we

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Speaker 4: do want to play something that happened last night and Sam,

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Speaker 4: I'll take it from here. I've got the audio of

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Speaker 4: something that the great one Wayne Gretzky predicted between the

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Speaker 4: second and third periods of last night's Game one of

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Speaker 4: the Stanley Cup Final between the Florida Panthers and Edmonton Oilers.

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Speaker 4: He had some advice for the Oilers who had trouble

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Speaker 4: well getting the puck in the back of the net.

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Speaker 3: They're playing a really smart they're playing their rick.

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Speaker 1: Talk of defense.

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Speaker 3: They got that forward in the middle, they're giving him outside.

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Speaker 2: Connor's gonna have to take it around the net or

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Speaker 2: stop up and hate the Lake guy because they're cutting

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Speaker 2: everything off going to the net.

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Speaker 5: Call them now, Thomas can move aside.

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Speaker 4: I got a red flayer off.

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Speaker 1: Town now call him now.

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Speaker 5: Let me tell you something that's called luck. Because he's

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Speaker 5: the best player in the world.

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Speaker 4: Forty Stewart.

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Speaker 3: I just got lucky with that.

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Speaker 4: Statement, so Doug. That first part of the audio was

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Speaker 4: Gretzky talking between intermissions. That last part was them at

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Speaker 4: the end of regulation because that's exactly how the Oilers

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Speaker 4: scored to tie up last night's game, which they ultimately

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Speaker 4: won in overtime over Florida. Now I know you and

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Speaker 4: Hayes were at getting some wings, so you weren't or

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Speaker 4: at the club eaton, so you couldn't maybe hear the audio,

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Speaker 4: but Gretzky nailed it. And my whole issue is when

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Speaker 4: he comes back, he just says it was luck. But

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Speaker 4: I think you need to take a victory lap in

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Speaker 4: that scenario when you called what was going to happen,

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Speaker 4: because that is your job as an analyst.

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Speaker 1: I think he was It's not like Magic Johnson saying

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Speaker 1: Kobe's the greatest likeer ever. I think he was being

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Speaker 1: you know, when your nickname is a great one, you

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Speaker 1: don't have to brag on yourself. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was luck. I think he knew he knows hockey, and

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Speaker 1: it may have been luck because he hadn't done research

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Speaker 1: on it. But it wasn't luck because he has feel

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Speaker 1: and you can't teach field.

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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart, you want any tow I'm disappointed when he

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Speaker 3: says lucky. I know that the hockey are all about

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Speaker 3: people being humble and stuff, but he chose to be humble.

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Speaker 3: It was disappointing. You're the great one. You're in game

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Speaker 3: one of the Standy Cup Finals and you call almost

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Speaker 3: almost exactly what happens to end a hockey game because

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Speaker 3: of all of your insight and magic, I mean insight

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Speaker 3: and experience. It's literally the opposite of Magic Johnson. Magic

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Speaker 3: Johnson would have never been that smart.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's what I think. Like people think that

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Speaker 4: Gretzky's on there just because he's a figurehead, and oh

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Speaker 4: we have the great one. But when he actually gave

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Speaker 4: analysis on what Edmonton needed to do to tie the

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Speaker 4: game in that third period and then it ends up happening,

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Speaker 4: I think that shows the extreme value of Wayne Gretzky,

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Speaker 4: and I understand his him being humble in that scenario. Doug,

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Speaker 4: to your point, I get all of that, but I

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Speaker 4: just think for the broadcast and for what TNT had,

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Speaker 4: they couldn't have him do that because it showed the

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Speaker 4: value of having him that he probably has the view

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Speaker 4: that only a select few players like the other players

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Speaker 4: on that set. I do not think like Wayne Gretzky

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Speaker 4: and Connor McDavid do, But Gretzky does, so he has

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Speaker 4: insight into that superstar that's where. And so I come

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Speaker 4: on the side of Jason and I love Gretzky, and

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Speaker 4: I think there was his opportunity to shine. But last

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Speaker 4: night he just downplayed it when I didn't think he should.

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Speaker 1: Have fair enough.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers is a Pittsburgh Steeler. The quarterback has agreed

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Speaker 4: to sign a one year deal to play the steel

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Speaker 4: City for the twenty twenty five season and is expected

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Speaker 4: to be at mandatory mini camp next week.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm not you know, as you guys know,

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Speaker 1: I was a really big Aaron Rodgers fan. Then there

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Speaker 1: was period of time we were friends friendly. That time

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Speaker 1: has passed doesn't matter. I think he's an awesome quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he was a disaster to start the year.

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Speaker 1: Then he got better and better. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: he has left in the tank. But despite the fact

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Speaker 1: I'm Mason Ruolf's a friend of mine, I want to

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Speaker 1: see Aaron Rodgers play more football. I'd like to see

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Speaker 1: what he has left. I like to see what the

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steers look like if they have a few first

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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer granted not in his prime. Like

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about it, and people who are not you

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Speaker 1: may be worn out by the Aaron Rodgers news or

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Speaker 1: all the other stuff. But yeah, and then the big

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Speaker 1: question is is he going to be allowed to do McAfee.

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Speaker 1: That'll know the answer to that.

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Speaker 4: Speaking of quarterbacks in the AFC, Anthony Richardson of the

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Speaker 4: Indianapolis Colts is dealing with a shoulder issue, aggravating an

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Speaker 4: issue that cost him games last season. He is not

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Speaker 4: going to take part in the team's mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 4: this week or next week that is, and head coach

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Speaker 4: Shane Steiken said today they're not sure iff Richardson will

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Speaker 4: be ready for the start of training camp. Daniel Jones

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Speaker 4: likely to get those first team reps at mini camp.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. I mean how much they have laid on

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Speaker 1: the line for that guy, and now Daniel Jones might

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Speaker 1: get to come in and get another shot.

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Speaker 4: And crazy, and they this is an open competition. This

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Speaker 4: was the words of Chris Ballard the GM when this

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Speaker 4: offseason began. This is an open competition between Richardson and Jones,

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Speaker 4: and it's it almost feels like it's strike three for

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Speaker 4: Richardson if he isn't able to make it back because

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Speaker 4: they've given him all of the opportunity and if he

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Speaker 4: can't stay healthy, that's a that's a big part of playing.

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Speaker 3: It's the opposite situation in Seattle, Dan when we had

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Speaker 3: a we had your head coach yesterday being like, it's

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Speaker 3: ridiculous to insinuate that Sam Donald will not be the

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Speaker 3: starting quarterback. And I'm like, who is the head coach

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Speaker 3: of the Seattle Seahawks. And I'm like, I just keep keep.

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Speaker 4: Forgetting Keith, forgetting very very well done. I agree with

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Speaker 4: Mike McDonald that Donald should be their guy. There were

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Speaker 4: reports that Drew Locke looked good. You obviously drafted Jalen

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Speaker 4: Milroe in the third round. Rick Pattino said last night

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Speaker 4: the Saint John's head coach after throwing out the first

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Speaker 4: pitch the Yankees games, speaking with Yes, saying that the

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Speaker 4: Yes network not the band that absolutely not. Would he

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Speaker 4: be the next head coach of the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 4: Not gonna happen now.

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Speaker 1: Goundet wan Bee Prude I had this junk.

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Speaker 4: Sure, and that's the press.

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Speaker 5: Now get out there and pressed.

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Speaker 4: That was the press.

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Speaker 1: Stuck, got leap show here, Fox Sports tradey all right,

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Speaker 1: nine and a half point line is the line for tonight,

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Speaker 1: Dan Byer, who.

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Speaker 3: Do you like?

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Speaker 4: I'll take the Pacers to cover tonight?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 3: Did Jay Stu flipping a coin? Pacers? All right?

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the thunder to win. Thunder to cover Dog,

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Speaker 1: gotlip Show, Fox Sport, Trido