1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, come in your city, gets. 2 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 2: Will be. 3 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 3: And if you want a little I come alone. 4 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 4: I wouldn't go out there and extol the miracle of 5 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 4: the Biden economy. It just drives me crazy when he 6 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 4: does that. And prices, although inflation is moderated, prices are 7 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: still high. Price of gasoline is still high. You know, 8 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 4: other prices are still high, and people feel that pinch 9 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 4: sometimes when these debates happen. 10 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 5: I feel like it's the early two thousands and I'm 11 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 5: talking to some people who think that we can just 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 5: have landline phones forever. 13 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 6: Believe it or not. Only two hundred and seven days left. 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 5: Till you get to vote. 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Coming Tom Conco song from. 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 6: Coast to coast, from border to border, from c to 17 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 6: Shining Sea. Sean Kennedy is on. 18 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 4: Showing up next. 19 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 6: Our final News Roundup and Information Overload hour. 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: All right, News round Up and Information Overload hour, Our 21 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: toll free numbers eight hundred and nine four one Sean, 22 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program. 23 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: At the bottom of this half hour, how will the 24 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: issue of this pre civil war or civil war era 25 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: law being implemented in Arizona? How is this going to 26 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: resolve itself? We'll talk with the former Attorney General of Arizona. 27 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: Of that's Bernovich will join us, Mark Bernovich. But in Washington, 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: there was a lot going on today. My former colleague 29 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: also as a friend, she did great work. Catherine Herridge 30 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: talked about I guess being released from CBS News and 31 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:11,079 Speaker 1: how they seized her reporting records and how this crossed 32 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: a red line that should never be crossed again. Then 33 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Sheryl Atkinson testified to Tom McClintock that in her experience 34 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: at CBS that the government intervened in news coverage and 35 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: did it on a daily basis. Now we've been reading 36 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: an awful lot about the Biden administration putting a lot 37 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: of pressure on news organizations if they don't like the coverage. 38 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: They didn't like the coverage recently of them reporting exactly 39 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 1: what Donald Trump said about IVF and about abortion. I mean, 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: don't they have an obligation to just tell the truth. 41 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: I know they're in basically nothing but an extension of 42 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,160 Speaker 1: the Press Office of Joe Biden and the White House, 43 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: but still maybe just try occasionally to be objective. Anyway, 44 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: here's heroage. Then Sheryl Atkinson. 45 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: And I was laid off In February, an incident reinforced 46 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:10,239 Speaker 3: in my mind the importance of protecting confidential sources. CBS 47 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 3: News locked me out of the building and seized hundreds 48 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: of pages of my reporting files, including confidential source information. 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 3: Multiple sources said they were concerned that by working with 50 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: me to expose government corruption and misconduct, they would be 51 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: identified and exposed. I pushed back, and with the public 52 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: support of my union, sag AFTRA, the records were returned. 53 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: CBS's News's decision to receive my reporting records crossed a 54 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: red line that I believed should never be crossed again 55 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: by any media organization in the future. 56 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 7: Well, I think it's interesting to hear people say, and 57 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 7: I agree with this, that the government should not be 58 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 7: intervening a news coverage. But in my experience at CBS, 59 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 7: that happens every day. Members of committees, heads of committees, 60 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 7: members of Congress in the White House call the bureau 61 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 7: in Washington, d C. Contacts that they have editors and 62 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 7: managers up in New York to try to shape our coverage. 63 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, that I don't find particularly objectionable as long 64 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 4: as there is no force or threat of force behind that. 65 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: Do you find that to be the case, or I 66 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 2: don't know. 67 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 7: What was said. I just know they called there's no 68 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 7: physical force threatened, but there certainly is a great deal 69 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:30,679 Speaker 7: of pressure, you know, weighing on the networks in terms 70 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 7: of their coverage. 71 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: Anyway, the House now is investigating this issue of press freedom, 72 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 1: joining us. He is the House Judiciary Committee chairman, Jim 73 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: Jordan is with us. This issue has actually impacted me. 74 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: You have told me in the past that you have 75 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: seen incredible evidence that my social media was suppressed in 76 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: the lead up to the twenty twenty election. 77 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: Is that true? 78 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, because, son, you've been critical of the administration. When 79 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: you're critical of the administration, Oh my goodness, there's pressure place. 80 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 4: We've got all kinds of emails where we're big government, 81 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 4: the Biden administration is telling big tech what to do 82 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: and how to fence. Are conservatives and you know that 83 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 4: happened to you. So yeah, this is a real concern. 84 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 4: And I thought both ceryl And and Catherine did a 85 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 4: great job into hearing today. 86 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's kind of sad. 87 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you would think that certain basic rights are 88 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: fundamental and sacred, and among them freedom of speech and 89 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: freedom of the press, and we don't really have that today. 90 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: You would think other things would be sacred as well, 91 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: as like the principle of equal justice and equal application 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: of our laws. 93 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 2: But we know that's not true either. 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 4: Yeah. No, every single liberty we have under the First 95 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 4: Amendment's been assaulted by the Biden administration. You think about 96 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 4: all five. You right to practice your faith, you right 97 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 4: to assemble, you write the position, the government, free press, 98 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: free speech, every one. I mean you can. Back during COVID, 99 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 4: there were Democrat governors around the country. You said you 100 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: couldn't go to church on Sunday for goodness sake, and 101 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 4: you could just go down the list. And what we 102 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 4: got today was the freedom of press and how Cheryl 103 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,280 Speaker 4: Lakinson criticized the government, specifically the Obama administration, fast and 104 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 4: curious to how they handled the tragedy in ben Ghazzi. 105 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:18,360 Speaker 4: Catherine Herridge was criticizing the Biden administration and both suffered repercussions. 106 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: Cheryl Atkinson he Chad concerns about what was happening to 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 4: her computer, what was happening to her phone line, and 108 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 4: of course Catherine gets let go by CBS award winning 109 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 4: journalist's been there five years, but it's not that she 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 4: just got let go. They seized her records, they seized 111 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 4: her material, jeopardizing her sources and everything else. And we 112 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 4: asked the person from the union who represents people in journalism, 113 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: and they said they had never seen anything like this 114 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 4: ever before, where their data, their records were all sees 115 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 4: when she was let go. That's the concern and all 116 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 4: it sure looks like it was because she was she 117 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 4: was covering the Hunter Biden story, she was covering the 118 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 4: laptop story, she was covering the impeachment inquiry, and writing 119 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: things that were act rich but not complementary the Biden administration. 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 4: And then this happens from CBS, similar to what happened 121 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 4: with the government going after Sheryl Atkinson. 122 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: Well, I can tell you from my own personal experience. 123 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I find it beyond defensive that thousands of 124 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: text messages, private text messages between me and Paul Matterfort 125 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: at one point, were released. It bothers me the text messages, 126 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: private text messages between me and a mutual friend of ours, 127 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: Mark Meadows, that that was made public, or me and 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: Kaylee mcananey that that was made public. It's happened to 129 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: me time and time and time again, whatever happened to 130 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: my freedom of press, my freedom from privacy for crying 131 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: out loud. I wasn't being investigated. I didn't do anything 132 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: wrong exactly. Yet the entire country, you know it, is 133 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: now analyzing and then they're trying to selectively pick the 134 00:07:56,040 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: text that either I sent or received that benefits their narrative, 135 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: but or it doesn't even have to be in context. 136 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: Do I not have any privacy rights or rights as 137 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: a member of the press. 138 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 4: You're supposed to and it's supposed to be equal treatment 139 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: under the law. You don't see similar things typically happening 140 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: to folks on the left when it comes to this 141 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 4: to journalism. 142 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: So this is again, well, do have we ever seen 143 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: fake Jake Tapper's text messages or you know, conspiracy theorist 144 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: Rachel Maddow's text messages private text messages? 145 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 2: I don't think so. 146 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: I don't think so either. And again it's the unequal 147 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 4: application of the law, which is not supposed to happen 148 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 4: in the greatest country in the world with the constitution 149 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: that we have. And this is why this is I 150 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 4: think the most important issue we can recover from all 151 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,959 Speaker 4: the other crazy stuff. Joe Biden and his administration have done. 152 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 4: But if they take away the First Amendment, they take 153 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 4: away your right to privacy, they take away those fundamental liberties, 154 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 4: your Second Amendment rights, they start taking away those, then 155 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 4: we've lost what makes America the greatest country ever. And 156 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 4: that's why we spend so much time on Judiciary Committee 157 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 4: doing the investigations in defense. If we see what's happening, 158 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: and even in Brazil and other countries where they're going after, 159 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 4: they're going after free speech, going after to Twitter and 160 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 4: Elon must there. I mean, this is the scary direction 161 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: things are heading, and we better all work together to 162 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 4: protect First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fourth Amendment, at liberties. 163 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: He learned during the Russia hoax a lot of things, 164 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: but maybe the most dangerous in terms of our liberties 165 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: and our freedoms dealt with the issue of PAISA warrants. 166 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: And what we learned was is. 167 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: That that and by the way, everybody was warned ahead 168 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: of time, including the FBI director who signed three of 169 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 1: the four PAISA warrants. But we'll get to that in 170 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: a minute, but they were warned by Bruce Orr in 171 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: August of twenty sixteen. Don't trust the dossier. It's a 172 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: political document. What changes are going to be made in 173 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: terms of the PAISA warrants, which for national security reasons 174 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I would like to think we have some availability for 175 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: but it's been politicized and weaponized. I can't support the 176 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: reauthorization of this, and I know you and others can't. 177 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 4: Either, right, I can't support it unless one part of 178 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: the program now that that doesn't require a warrant to 179 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: search Americans, unless that that amendment that we're offering gets adopted. 180 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: So there are two parts. There's the part you spend 181 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 4: a lot of time there describing so on it and accurately. 182 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: So that's the part where where the pies the court operates. 183 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 4: That's actually not up for reauthorization, but we're trying to 184 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: make some changes there to improve the situation and prevent 185 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 4: what happened to President Trump and that whole scenario you 186 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 4: just went through that was so long. We're trying to 187 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 4: prevent that. The part that's up for reauthorization is the 188 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: second part of fives of what's called this seven H 189 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 4: two program, where they are our country spies on people abroad, foreigners, 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 4: not Americans. The foreigners are broad but when they do that, 191 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: listen to their phone calls and getting their emails and 192 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: all that stuff. When they do that, they ineviatively pick 193 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 4: up Americans because there's anything Americans talking to business people 194 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 4: around the world, America get picked up, and their data 195 00:11:01,559 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 4: goes in this gigantic database, the seven oh two haystack, 196 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: I call it this gigantic hay stack. And then what's 197 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 4: happening sean our government, specifically the FBI, The FBI who 198 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 4: did all those things you talked about there in the 199 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,640 Speaker 4: other part off is the FBI who spied on parents, 200 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 4: the FBI who said pro lefe Catholics are extremists, and 201 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 4: maybe most importantly, the FBI who retaliated against the whistleblowers 202 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 4: that you and I have talked to. The whistle blowers 203 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 4: came to our committee and told us about all this 204 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 4: starbage that FBI has been searching that haystack of information 205 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 4: using American names, phone numbers, and email addresses without a warrant. 206 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 4: And so I'm saying, that's not how our country works. 207 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 4: You want to go look through people's stuff and they're 208 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 4: an American citizen, you've got to go to a separate 209 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 4: and equal branch of government and get a warrant and 210 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 4: we think they have to do the same darn thing here, 211 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 4: which they're not doing. That's what And if that in 212 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: the minute, that language is not in the bill, I 213 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 4: ain't voting for it, and a bunch of members aren't 214 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: going to vote for it, particularly in light of all 215 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 4: the uses that you and I know of and that 216 00:11:57,960 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 4: you just recited. 217 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Why would any Republican vote for that if they didn't 218 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: put those provisions in that would guarantee the privacy of 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Americans and we wouldn't have warrantless searches like this. I mean, 220 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: they're supposed to practice minimization, but we know they don't. 221 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 4: So Sean even are so they say, oh, this could 222 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 4: be a delay, this could this could and there could 223 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 4: be a terrible terrorist attack on our country if we 224 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 4: can't search American citizens' name, number and in email address. 225 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: And I'm saying, okay, so we put in our language 226 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,239 Speaker 4: in the warrant an exception. If it's an emergency situation, 227 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: FBI is determined to go ahead and do the search 228 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 4: of the database. But if it's not an emergency, you 229 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 4: can't do it. Now here's the kicker, two hundred and 230 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 4: seventy eight thousand times the Inspector General had discovered in 231 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 4: his auditing that the FBI searched this database and didn't 232 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 4: follow their own rules. So now if we put new 233 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: rules on them without the warrant requirement, do we really 234 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 4: think they're going to follow those the same FBIA who 235 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 4: did all those other things. It's like, no, you have 236 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: to the way our system works, the tried and true 237 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 4: methods is, if you're going to search American citizens' information, 238 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 4: you got to go to the judicial branch, a separate 239 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: and equal branch of the government. We all learned about 240 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 4: this in City's class. That is the protection for Americans liberty. 241 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: It may take a little extra time, but liberty and 242 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: treatom are worth it. Our founders understood that, and it 243 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 4: has served us well for two hundred plus years. Let's 244 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 4: not abandon that fundamental principe. 245 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: All right, quick break more with House Judiciary Committee Chairman 246 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan of Ohio eight hundred ninety four one. Shawn 247 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: is our number, and what's really happening out in Arizona 248 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: as we talk about the Supreme Court ruling on abortion 249 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: out there, the former attorney general of that state will 250 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: join us. Also coming up, we continue with the Chairman 251 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: of the House Judiciary Committee, Jim Jordan is with us. 252 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: Let me ask you in where we are in terms 253 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: of the latest because there was a deadline of noon 254 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,480 Speaker 1: on Monday for Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice 255 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 1: to hand over to your committee and the Oversight Committee 256 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: the interview that Robert Herr, the Special Counsel, had with 257 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: Joe Biden and any materials information they had on conversations 258 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: involving this ghost writer of Joe Biden's. 259 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 2: They did not. 260 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: Are you going to hold these guys in contempt because 261 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: they did not comply with the congressional subpoena. 262 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, everything's on the table here sean contempt. We've even 263 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 4: went to court on another issue to interview two lawyers 264 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 4: at the Justice Department who are part of the Hunter 265 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: Byden investigation. So we're determined to do our duty, our 266 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 4: const social duty of oversight. And in this situation, they're 267 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 4: the ones who told us about the audio tape. They're 268 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 4: the ones who said, even though Joe Biden at the 269 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 4: elements of the crime, even though he had a motive, 270 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 4: and the motive was an eight million dollars book advance, 271 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 4: and he took kept it classified information and disclosed it 272 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 4: because of that book bands clearly and mister Hurst report. 273 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 4: Even with all that, mister Hurst said, we're not going 274 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 4: to press We're not going to recommend charges because Joe 275 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 4: Biden to forget the old man. Okay, you told us 276 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 4: about the audio tape. You've given us a transcript. We 277 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 4: want the audio tape as well. We think we deserve 278 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 4: that as the people, the branch of government that does oversight. 279 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: More importantly, we think the American people deserve to hear 280 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 4: that when they're getting ready to make the most important decision, 281 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 4: who's going to be our next commander in chief? 282 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: Oh, very very important work. 283 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 5: Uh. 284 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: Will there be criminal referrals in the weeks ahead, We 285 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of time. 286 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: Well, we're going to complete our investigation. I've said all along. 287 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 4: This case is compelling, I think. But you know, in 288 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 4: the end, whether there's articles, whether there's referrals, whether there's 289 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,440 Speaker 4: a report, how how this is all put together is 290 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: up to the House of Representatives and you know, the 291 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 4: Republican Conference, but Franklins, the entire House because impeachment, inquiry, 292 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: impeachment is is a sole power in the House, and 293 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: we will we will go through everything get all the 294 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: facts out there and then make a decision. But our 295 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: job is to continue to do it. And like you said, 296 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 4: there's constitution puts no time limit on doing proper oversight. 297 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: All right, Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, looking into 298 00:16:12,080 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: a lot of issues, doing a great job, Ohio. Congressman 299 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan, Sir, thank you as always, appreciate. 300 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 4: Your time, you two. Thanks for you all right. 301 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: So, out in the Great State of Arizona, the Supreme 302 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: Court made a ruling. It relates to the issue of abortion, 303 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: and as a result of that ruling, a pre Civil 304 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: War law that is probably the most restrictive is now 305 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: officially the law in the Great State of Arizona. Now, 306 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: there's plenty of time for the two bodies of Congress 307 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: out there, their House and Senate, to deal with this issue. 308 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: I believe within the next week two weeks. It may 309 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: take a little bit of time to hash out the deal, 310 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: but I do believe that the elected officials in Arizona 311 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: have an important job to do, and that job is 312 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: to make sure that they provide a fix to what 313 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: this decision has caused. Anyway, there is a very slim 314 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: margin in both the lower Chamber and the Upper Chamber 315 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: for Republicans. They do have a governor that is a 316 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: Democrat and an attorney general that is a Democrat. But anyway, 317 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: here to give us some insight into what's actually going 318 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: on here, as the former Attorney General of Arizona, Mark 319 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: Bernovitch is back with us, sir, her are you long time? 320 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: Glad you're back. 321 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,959 Speaker 5: Thank you very much. John. It's always great to hear 322 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 5: your voice, and I'm glad to be talking about this 323 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 5: important issue today. 324 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: Now, this all goes back to the Supreme Court decision 325 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: on Roe v. Wade that eliminated the constitutional right to 326 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: abortion on the federal level, and the power goes back 327 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: to the states and every state would then get to 328 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: set whatever limits regulations they want on the issue of abortion. 329 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: At the time, when you were attorneys Enroll, you went 330 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: to court to reinstate the eighteen sixty four abortion banning 331 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: convinced the trial court that the Civil War era law 332 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: should be enforced instead of the fifteen week ban that 333 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: had passed just months earlier. My understanding is you did 334 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: all of that because of constitutional reasons. 335 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: Am I wrong? 336 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 5: Well, no, you are absolutely correct. And let's put this 337 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 5: in context for decades conservative legal scholars, leaving scholars on 338 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: the left and argued that Roe was was constitutionally suspect 339 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 5: and should be overturned. And traditionally issues of public health, 340 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 5: safety welfare were left to the states, and so when 341 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 5: Roe was overturned Arizona, I want to make sure I 342 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 5: wee understand this. In nineteen seventy seven, there was a 343 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:49,920 Speaker 5: recodification and the old territory of law was recodified. So 344 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 5: it was reinstated in nineteen seventy seven, but Roe prevented 345 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 5: it from going into effect. And in twenty twenty two 346 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,159 Speaker 5: the legislature passed and the governor signed it. You know 347 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 5: that basically said if Rose ever overturned the old laws, 348 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 5: the nineteen seventy seven statue goes into effect. And so 349 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 5: after Roe was overturned, there was a lot of confusion 350 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 5: as to what law was in effect or not in effect. 351 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 5: And all have consistently said the job of an age, 352 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 5: the job of the prosecutors, is to enforce the law 353 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 5: as it is. Me I'm on record saying that I 354 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 5: believe there should be exceptions for rape and incests and 355 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 5: to save the life of the mother, and I think 356 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 5: we all agree that there's things that we can do, 357 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: for example, like to require minors to have parental consent. 358 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,640 Speaker 5: But at the end of the day, my opinion doesn't matter. 359 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 5: What matters is the law that the legislature passed in 360 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 5: the governor assigned at twenty twenty two, and the court 361 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 5: wasn't legislating from the bench, but they made a decision, 362 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: which is what conservatives say they always want. They want 363 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 5: the courts to say, well, the legislature passed this law, 364 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 5: so we're going to give effects to the plane words 365 00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,679 Speaker 5: that they used and the plain words that they use 366 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 5: said that the old statue, you know, thirteen thirty six 367 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 5: oh three was in effect, and that statute essentially prohibited 368 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 5: all abortions. 369 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so now let's talk about what options are 370 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: available for elected officials in Arizona to deal with this. 371 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: And I know there's been a contentious back and forth 372 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: in the last forty eight hours as they begin the 373 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: process of working this out. I would suspect, and maybe 374 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: you'll agree, maybe you disagree, that in a week or 375 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: two they're probably going to have this resolved. Let's talk 376 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,120 Speaker 1: about what they are doing, what is being proposed. Where 377 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: do you think this is going to end up well. 378 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 5: Most Republicans, even very strong pro life Republicans, understand that 379 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 5: this issue isn't addressed. The Democrats have just done the 380 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 5: bide administration is seven figure out by here in Arizona. 381 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 5: They are going to beat up all the Republicans, all 382 00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: the Conservatives in Arizona. The danger of losing a couple 383 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 5: of congressional seats, even the legislature, and then you're going 384 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 5: to have even more chaos here. So people understand in 385 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: the legislature, leadership understands that this has to be addressed. 386 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 5: And so what I would recommend that what I've said 387 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 5: to people, Look, there are issues that we can all 388 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 5: agree on, even people that are independent women and even 389 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 5: moderate Democrats, for example, parental notification, you know, trying to 390 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 5: curb you know, late term abortions. So there are there 391 00:21:21,040 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 5: are issues that I think that we can agree on. 392 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 5: And I try to remind all my pro life friends. 393 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: If two years ago you had said Roby waiters going 394 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 5: to be overturned and safes like Arizona would have you know, 395 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,919 Speaker 5: some limitations and we're going to do things to protect 396 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 5: the unborn, people would have said that's awesome. And so 397 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 5: you know, I keep thinking about what my mom said. 398 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 5: She has all these old Slavic expressions, and one of 399 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 5: them is, just because you can't buy the whole salami 400 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 5: doesn't mean you can't buy a few pieces per slices. 401 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 5: And so politics is about the artic possible. And so 402 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 5: there are Republicans pushing to eliminate the complete ban and 403 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 5: to go to the fifteenth week band, which something I 404 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 5: think the legislature could pass and put the Democrats on 405 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 5: the spot. They said they want to repeal the old 406 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 5: law of seventy seven lash territorial law. Then force them 407 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 5: to vote on that. Force them to do that, and 408 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 5: then the Republican can start figuring out, Okay, is it 409 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 5: a fifteen week man? Is it parental notification? And there's 410 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 5: other options they can do that are consistent with a 411 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 5: pro life position but also will not result in a 412 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 5: tsunami politically crashing here in Arizona. 413 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: Politically, I see, the Great State of Arizona is a 414 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: pretty a state that has always had pretty libertarian leanings. 415 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: Where do you think the people of Arizona are on this? Politically? 416 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 5: Arizona is a conservative but not a crazy state. This 417 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 5: is the home of Barry Goldwater, and there is definitely 418 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: a strong libertarian undertow It's one of the reasons why 419 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 5: people even approved, you know, legalized ariluana here. Some people 420 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 5: were surprised by that, but I wasn't because there tends 421 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 5: to be a very Arizona attitude of look living with 422 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 5: and Republicans when when we have candidates to focus on, 423 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 5: you know, consistency and certainty and the application of law. 424 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 5: Try to create an environment where entrepreneurs can succeed, where 425 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: people can make sure that they can buy a house 426 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 5: or provide a better future for their kids. Republicans win. 427 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 5: I know, I remind all the people moving here from 428 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,200 Speaker 5: California that you know, high taxes, lots of regulation and 429 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 5: lawlessness don't work. We have an ocean, ain't going to 430 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 5: work in the desert. So Arizona politically is still a 431 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 5: right of center state. But there is a strong libertarian 432 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 5: streak here, and I think that when it comes to 433 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 5: reasonable restrictions, like you know, you mentioned fifteen weets, but 434 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 5: you know, the notion of like, hey, we want our 435 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 5: kids to you know, make sure that you know they're vulnerable. 436 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 5: We want them to be telling their parents what they're doing, 437 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 5: whether that's you know, a sex change operation or getting 438 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 5: an abortion. That's something parents should know about it. I 439 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 5: think reasonable people, most people here understand that. But what's 440 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 5: happened is the left of define this here in other 441 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 5: places in some sort of you know, war on women, 442 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 5: and I think they're setting a narrative. And that's why 443 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 5: I do think, Sean, it's so important for Republican and 444 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 5: leaders here especial legislature to act quickly because, as I said, 445 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 5: I just saw today that I know the Biden administrates. 446 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 5: Biden Joe Biden's political campaign is doing a seventh figure 447 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 5: add by Kamala Harris is going to be in town tomorrow. 448 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,400 Speaker 5: So they are spiking the football and they are doing 449 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 5: everything they can to create this narrative and to change 450 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 5: teams different issues that people really care about, like, you know, 451 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 5: are they going to be able to Ford to send 452 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 5: their kids to college? Can they buy a house? Why 453 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: do why do eggs cost so much? Why is the 454 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 5: price of milk? Why is gas so high? And my goodness, 455 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 5: we have a border that's a sieve that's empowered the cartels, 456 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: and we've seen, you know, increases in crime here and 457 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 5: those are the issues that republic services should be talking about. 458 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,719 Speaker 5: It doesn't mean that this isn't an important issue, but 459 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 5: it obviously, as you know, it's a highly emotionally charged issue, 460 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 5: and there are people adamant on both sides, and at 461 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 5: some point we have to realize that you could agree 462 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 5: to disagree and you have. The politics is about the 463 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,440 Speaker 5: art of the possible. And if Republicans don't want to 464 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 5: get wiped out in states like Arizona and maybe even 465 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,680 Speaker 5: other swing states because this could have a concasion event, 466 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 5: they need to address this issue in a reasonable manner 467 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 5: at this point. And I keep reminding all my pro 468 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 5: life friends, if you had said two and a half 469 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 5: years ago that Roby Wade's going to be overturned and 470 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 5: a bunch of states are going to impose fifteen week 471 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 5: abortion bands, they would have said, oh my gosh, hallowlujah, 472 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 5: that is amazing. That is a complete victory. So let's 473 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 5: not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory at this point. 474 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 1: Okay, now you have a pretty good feel for the 475 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: political environment. Do you think Republicans are smart enough to 476 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: follow your advice? Because I agree with everything you just said. 477 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 5: I hope so Sean, you, like I said, I mean, 478 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 5: I think you know you and I talked about this 479 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,199 Speaker 5: with you endorsement, and I was running for the Senate. 480 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: Look when I ran in twenty eighteen for reelection of 481 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 5: ag I got attack millions of dollars of out of 482 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 5: state money from the tree huggers, and yet I not 483 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 5: only one. I got more than seventy thousand votes in 484 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 5: Church the cinema raw votes in that senatorial race. And 485 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 5: so to me, that's the indication of when you have candidates, 486 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 5: you can be principaled. You can be conservative. And you know, 487 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 5: I've gone to a Supreme Court and you know sued 488 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 5: Joe Biden over the border over unconstitutional vaccine, Mandy, you 489 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 5: know Burnovich v. DNC on election integory. You know, I 490 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 5: have the receipts, and you can be a conservative. 491 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 4: But you have to. 492 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 5: Tell people here they like straight shooters. It's that very 493 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: Goldwater tradition. I know not everyone likes them, but John 494 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 5: McCain wins six state wide elections either there, you had 495 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 5: that reputation as a straight shooter, and so what people 496 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 5: expect you to say, this is what I believe and 497 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 5: why I believe it. And when we have good candidates, 498 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: Republicans win statewide. And when we have poor candidates or 499 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 5: candidates that will not stand up where they're flip flopping 500 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 5: or their wishy washing on issues, we end up losing. 501 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 5: The for me is an Arizona if someone that grew 502 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 5: up here, I mean, it's bad enough. We've got an 503 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 5: incompetent governor. We've got a highly partisan, an ethical attorney general. 504 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 5: You have a Secretary of State that's going to be 505 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 5: overseeing the elections. That's the hardcore partisan. And now we're 506 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 5: in risk of losing congressional seats and Republican or swim districts, 507 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 5: and we could end up losing the House in the Senate, 508 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: legislatively on a state level. And so if people think, 509 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 5: you know, there's going to be chaos or there's chaos 510 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 5: right now, my goodness. If you give the Democrats a 511 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 5: democratic agu governor in control of the legislative branches, there 512 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 5: will be no end to the chaos and the habit 513 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 5: they will reek on the state. They will forever change it. 514 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,400 Speaker 2: I mean, well, is your prediction. 515 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Now, let's assume in the next week or two this 516 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: does in fact get the fix that you're discussing. 517 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: What is the impact of that, Well, I've. 518 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 5: Been told by folks I know on the legislature that 519 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 5: they have the votes. There will be a fix at 520 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 5: least by next week. The House is going to vote 521 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 5: on it, the Senate will vote on it, so it 522 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 5: does have a fix. And at the end of the day, 523 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 5: Biden definitely is getting a bump here and you know, 524 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 5: getting sugar rush. You know, all the local media is 525 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 5: on this and the way it's being portrayed and spun. 526 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 5: The question is is that with independent and moderate women here, 527 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 5: Republican women, you know, what is going to be their impact? 528 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 5: Are they going to be like, well, wait a minute, 529 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 5: I don't trust the Republicans moving forward, or are they 530 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 5: going to take a reset? And as you know, two 531 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 5: weeks is a lifetime and two months as an eternity 532 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 5: in Polmpics. And once people start, you know, going to 533 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 5: the grocery store, the gas station and seeing how much 534 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,959 Speaker 5: gas costs and how much your groceries costs. When they 535 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 5: see the interest rates aren't falling and it's impossible, it's 536 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 5: impossible for middle class people to buy houses here in 537 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 5: Arizona because they're so expensive and interest rates are so high. 538 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 5: When they see record amount of cartel activity, when they 539 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 5: see sons, daughters, nieces, and nephews dying of set altberdoses 540 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: here in Arizona and record numbers, they're going to realize, well, 541 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 5: wait a minute, there is a real choice, and when 542 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 5: it comes to their family long term health and consequences. 543 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 5: It's Republicans that are looking out for their public safety 544 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 5: and the Democrats are using this issue to not only 545 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 5: try to drive a wedge, but it's because it's the 546 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 5: only thing they got that's going to rally their base. Yeah, 547 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 5: and hopefully slip independent Republican women. 548 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: All Right, Former Attorney General of Arizona, Mark Burnovich, I 549 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: think you put it in a good perspective and you're 550 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: pretty confident this is going to pass. 551 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: Correct. 552 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Okay, that's what my prediction is is as well, 553 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: because I don't think there's any other option anyway, mister 554 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: Attorney General, thank you for being with US eight hundred 555 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: and nine four one Shaw on our number. 556 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 2: All Right, that's going to wrap things up for today. 557 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: Loaded up tonight nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel, 558 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Kelly and Conway, Charlie Hurt, Stephen A. Smith will check 559 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: in with US. LEO two point o Terrell. 560 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 2: He knew o J. 561 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: Simpson. Alan Dershwitz defended o J. Simpson. Will check in 562 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: with them. What is really going on out in Arizona 563 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: with the abortion issue? Will it be resolved? Mark Bernovich, 564 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: the Great Victor, Davis Hansen, and much more. Set you 565 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: DVR nine Eastern Hannity tonight on Fox. We'll see you 566 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: then back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this show possible.