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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health. Well, welcome

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Speaker 1: into a MIDWEK edition of One Bill's Live. First Brown

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you, and I should mention right off

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Speaker 1: the top, I didn't do this on social media yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We did have a little bit of a snaffoo with

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Speaker 1: our recording, our audio recording. We know a lot of

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Speaker 1: people listen back to the show because they're working between

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Speaker 1: the hours of one and three when we are live,

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Speaker 1: and we only had the first twenty five minutes of

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Speaker 1: the show up and then it cut off abruptly. So

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Speaker 1: some of you were kind enough to let us know,

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Speaker 1: and we did rectify that. So if you're unable to

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Speaker 1: listen to yesterday's show at its entirety and you'd like

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Speaker 1: to do so, it is available for selection. So just

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Speaker 1: wanted to mention that to you as a bit of

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Speaker 2: Give us another chance, please.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we got that rectified, so hopefully no hiccups

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Speaker 1: moving forward. And here we are at midweek and it

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Speaker 1: is reaching the seventy degree mark in Buffalo. Now it's

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Speaker 1: going to promptly drop back into the fifties tomorrow. These

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Speaker 1: are the little teasers we get Steve this time of

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Speaker 1: year where it feels as though is it over yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's not. Do not be duped by fake spring one,

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Speaker 1: because there is also fake Spring two coming in the

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Speaker 1: not too distant future that will really get your hopes up.

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Speaker 1: And then we'll get wet snow on April tenth. You

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Speaker 1: know I'm right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I laughed because I concur yeah, keep it's it's

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Speaker 2: gonna get so warm. It's gonna be in the seventies

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Speaker 2: to day, so keep your pets and children inside, keep

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Speaker 2: them safe from the heat.

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Speaker 1: My wife convinced me to bring the front porch rocking

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Speaker 1: chairs up from the basement, which is where they reside

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Speaker 1: in the winter. I looked at her and I said,

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Speaker 1: huge mistake. I looked at her and I said, you

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Speaker 1: really want to do that?

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Speaker 3: You're asking?

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Speaker 1: She goes, oh, come on, it's gonna be seventy today.

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Speaker 3: You know you do it for one day?

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Speaker 1: She is, come on, she is hopelessly optimistic for spring

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Speaker 1: because she wants it to arrive so badly.

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Speaker 3: Honey, that's a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this. I didn't wear a jacket to work today.

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Speaker 1: That was nice, one less layer to deal with.

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Speaker 3: I wore two.

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Speaker 1: You wore two jackets.

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Speaker 3: I wore jacket.

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Speaker 2: You trust me nothing fast, No, I am not gonna

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Speaker 2: You can't put it on if you don't bring it

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Speaker 2: with you. That that's the axiom from our locker room

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Speaker 2: back in the day. We had to practice outdoors all

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Speaker 2: the time, and if it was a lot, yeah, you

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Speaker 2: could not put it on if you didn't bring it out.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do the Jordan Phillips Parker with the hood,

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Speaker 3: No, I would have, but I didn't.

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Speaker 1: You would have been ridiculed.

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Speaker 3: Well, if it's in your locker, you put it on.

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Speaker 2: Anyway.

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Speaker 3: We were out there in four or five layers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was I remember running that kickoff

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Speaker 2: our returned for the Raiders, almost scored on it was

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Speaker 2: in that the coldest game ever.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was running down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: Let's go here, ight, I'm gonna score, And I thought

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Speaker 2: I was got three quarters the way down there.

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna do it. I got too many clothes on.

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Speaker 3: Will no Willy gulp pushed me out of bound.

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Speaker 1: That would have been entertaining if en route to the

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Speaker 1: end zone, you just start stripping layers while.

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Speaker 2: Taking my gloves off, throwing in behind my hand, taking

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Speaker 2: my helmet off in one hand, pulling my head sleeve on,

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Speaker 2: putting a helmet back on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where that would have been football under my to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, yeah, it was. It's cold, man. I don't

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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. I came into work today and

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Speaker 2: I had I dressed warmer today than I did yesterday,

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Speaker 2: just because I thought, now, you know what, I'm not

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Speaker 2: coming out here after work. You're not having the temper

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I know every and that seems to be

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Speaker 1: the prevailing weather this time of year. Even when you

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Speaker 1: get an unseasonably warm day, as far as our standards

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Speaker 1: go here, it is usually short lived and accompanied by

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Speaker 1: a weather front in which strong gale force winds blow

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Speaker 1: back to square one. Walked out, hence the fake spring

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Speaker 1: label that we use.

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Speaker 2: I let the dog out yesterday, walked down. We have

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Speaker 2: a we have woods, you know, around the woods, and

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Speaker 2: sure enough there's a sixty foot hardwood tree.

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Speaker 3: Oh right over you saw, No, it came across the path.

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Speaker 2: It was I was like, hey, I was called my hey,

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Speaker 2: did you why don't you tell me about this.

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Speaker 3: She goes, what.

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Speaker 2: That because, oh my gosh, it just happened. You know,

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Speaker 2: it happened since this morning. I was like, okay, so

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Speaker 2: now you know, I've got that back here in my head.

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Speaker 3: I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: It's on the to do list. So there, it'll get better,

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Speaker 1: but it's just gonna take a little time. I feel

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Speaker 1: like once we get to the draft, we're close to

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Speaker 1: home free because you're at the end of April, and.

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Speaker 2: For those who know me, I play golf April fifteenth,

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Speaker 2: Tax day. Oh, that's usually the demot line of demarcation

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Speaker 2: for free. You can get out just about a couple

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Speaker 2: of three times, four times every any week you want.

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Speaker 2: Maybe not every day, yeah, and ye, and sometimes it

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Speaker 2: happens before that, but that's usually the Okay, mid April,

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Speaker 1: I'll mark that down. Yeah, I got to hold you

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Speaker 1: too that. We've got some Bill's notes to get to

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Speaker 1: here off the top. After we were off the air yesterday,

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Speaker 1: the Bills finalized their coaching staff for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: the biggest changes obviously coming on special teams, where veteran

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Speaker 1: NFL Special Teams coordinator Chris Taber joins the staff and

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Speaker 1: he's going to be assisted by Turner West, who has

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Speaker 1: some experience in the NFL but most recently was the

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator at Georgia Southern. So two coordinators joining

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Speaker 1: And I remember when we had coach mcdermotta on at

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Speaker 1: the combine with us, I said, how big was NFL experience,

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Speaker 1: prior NFL experience as a special teams coordinator when you

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Speaker 1: were looking to add a new special teams coach? And

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Speaker 1: he said it was at the top of the list,

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Speaker 1: because the Bills have not had a special teams coordinator

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Speaker 1: with NFL special teams coordinator experience since twenty eighteen when

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Speaker 1: Danny Crossman left, right. Since then, it's been first time

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinators. So clearly coach McDermott believed a change

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Speaker 1: in terms of prior NFL coaching experience in that role

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Speaker 1: he's all forgiven people opportunities, but and he did now.

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Speaker 2: On a number of occasions, and you know, you can

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Speaker 2: go back, and I mean, I'm sure a lot of

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Speaker 2: like oh, you know, and I've said it a ton too.

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Speaker 2: It's way, it's a different atmosphere in the special teams

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Speaker 2: world now than it has been in decades past. Much

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Speaker 2: different to me. It is. It's much more difficult, difficult

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Speaker 2: to make a tremendous play as anything other than a

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Speaker 2: just harder to do things even as a team schematically,

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Speaker 2: you know, to make a superlative play in anything other

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Speaker 2: It's hard to do these days. And it's it's not

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Speaker 2: getting easier, right, new kickoff rules and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, right, and you know, I know there's some measure

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Speaker 1: a concern? And we asked coach McDermott that question when

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Speaker 1: he said no, Actually, I was very encouraged because all

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Speaker 1: Chris Tabor has done when he wasn't working in the

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Speaker 1: NFL was examining tracking and looking at what every team

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Speaker 1: time to study everything up right, So he saw probably

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Speaker 2: And it's it'll be interesting to see how that evolves

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Speaker 2: because coaches are going to push the envelope in whatever

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Speaker 2: it looks more like a hard steel box than it

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Speaker 2: doesn't envelope, right, So we'll see. Like I said, there's

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Speaker 2: a the game will evolve, continue to evolve, and we'll

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Speaker 2: see how where it goes.

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Speaker 1: Will Greenberg was also promoted from within to head strength

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Speaker 1: the way back with Sean McDermott to his Philadelphia coaching days,

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Speaker 1: for Will Greenberg with the level of a experience he

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Speaker 1: a three million dollar pay cut. In exchange, the Bills

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Speaker 1: him to become a free agent next off season. So

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Speaker 1: I think we have to at least prepare ourselves for

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Speaker 1: the possibility that this is the final season of Matt

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Speaker 1: Milana in a Bill's uniform. That possibility exists now.

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Speaker 2: Right, and it's it's probably attractive to him because he

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Speaker 2: can get one more swing at the apple with you know,

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Speaker 2: say this, he you know, he was injured this year,

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Speaker 2: and was injured last year with the busted leg, but

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Speaker 2: this year he came back with the with the torn

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Speaker 2: pack or torn bicep, and when he was in there

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Speaker 2: once he got ramped up, he looked to be the

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Speaker 2: same old Matt Malono who has played at a high level.

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Speaker 2: So if he can stay healthy this year, I think

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Speaker 2: his expectations should be very high. So I'm I think

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Speaker 2: it's a win win for both sides. Milano gets a

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Speaker 2: chance to prove himself still making a really good buck

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Speaker 2: and he gets a chance to cash in on it

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Speaker 2: if he does.

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Speaker 1: And you know who had the most sacks in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs for the Bills this past season, Yeah, he has

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Speaker 1: Ma Milano with three.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we've seen it. Man.

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Speaker 2: The guy's a monster.

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Speaker 1: Oh when he's right.

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Speaker 2: When he's right, he's a monster. And it's you know,

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Speaker 2: he's a difference. It's twenty nine right now, I thirty thirty.

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Speaker 3: It's just thirty.

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Speaker 2: So he's I think he's got I know he's got

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Speaker 2: this year left in him for sure. If he can

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Speaker 2: I agree completely. It'll take the possibility of a tie

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Speaker 1: That's correct.

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Speaker 3: Hooray for us. Yeah, screw everybody up.

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Speaker 1: I mean we always have What if we talked about

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Here is why I have faith that it will not pass.

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna help you get that out.

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Speaker 2: And I think, you know, look at the big scheme

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Speaker 2: You go back and watch early films.

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Speaker 3: It's a bar fight.

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Speaker 2: You could do anything you wanted defense.

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Speaker 2: you got to be happy with whatever they can give you.

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Speaker 3: But that's that's so.

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Speaker 2: Now you're talking about now you're getting philosophical here. Now

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Speaker 1: That's what.

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Speaker 2: It's unhealthy.

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Speaker 1: It's unhealthy for the game.

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Speaker 2: You mean for the game, for the lock room dynamics,

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Speaker 1: We'll see if it gains any track.

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Speaker 2: I'm having trouble getting my mind on exactly what it means.

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Speaker 1: You get down to roster cutdown day, you got to

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Speaker 2: Exclude from the ninety elimin on players place an injurer

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the loophole. This is the loophole.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna put him in.

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Speaker 1: not nefarious in any way, unintended consequences.

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Speaker 2: All that stuff exclude from the ninety player limit. That

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Speaker 2: means you can have like ninety five players. You can

445
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Speaker 2: put him on an injured reserve for the roster reduction, and.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're excluding that player from the ninety player limit.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, that's a this is a this is a

448
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Speaker 3: the way I understand it. That's how about now?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe a host of teams, seven in all, are

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Speaker 1: proposing that clubs be allowed to prepare kicking footballs before

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Speaker 1: game day, similar to process permitted for game footballs. Steve,

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Speaker 1: you can obviously speak to this more. Baltimore, Cleveland, Houston,

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas, Minnesota, Philadelphia, and Washington are the clubs collectively

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Speaker 1: proposing that. They're claiming that with equipment staffs getting handed

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Speaker 1: the k ball's day of game, like an hour and

456
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Speaker 1: a half before kickoff, it's too stressful and counterproductive to

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Speaker 1: get the balls properly ready for their kickers and punters.

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Speaker 1: They should get the balls sooner in the week, just

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Speaker 1: like they do with the regular footballs that they work in,

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Speaker 1: for a couple of days before game day. And it

461
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Speaker 1: was interesting because I read further on this, and basically

462
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Speaker 1: the resolution says clubs currently have to prepare their caballs

463
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Speaker 1: on game day without the supervision of an NFL game

464
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Speaker 1: day assistant during the sixty minutes they're allowed to get

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Speaker 1: it ready before the game. So with all the things

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Speaker 1: that the equipment guys have to do before a game, anyway,

467
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Speaker 1: they now have the add you know, for the last

468
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Speaker 1: several years they've had this added responsibility, Hey, get the

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Speaker 1: ball ready before I got to kick it off in

470
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Speaker 1: an hour, you know, rough it up, you know, scuff

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Speaker 1: it up, whatever, whatever, whatever, And people might say, wow,

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Speaker 1: if you give it to them two days before, they

473
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Speaker 1: can mess with the footballs. You know, let's not forget

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Speaker 1: the flight gate. Well, the bill, the bills. The league

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Speaker 1: has put in advancements in technology to guard against that stuff,

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Speaker 1: including for k balls being messed with. So they have

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Speaker 1: this inflation equipment technology at all games that provides a

478
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Speaker 1: uniform process to ensure all footballs meet the proper criteria,

479
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Speaker 1: including proper PSI among other things. And there's a visual

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Speaker 1: inspection as well before every game. So they're saying, well,

481
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Speaker 1: if you're doing all that, now, why can't we get

482
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Speaker 1: the k balls at the same time we get the

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Speaker 1: balls for the offense. For the offense, you know that

484
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Speaker 1: the quarterback likes roughed up to a certain amount of wear. Now,

485
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Speaker 1: come on, it seems too petty to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here's the here's the difference. The ball that a

487
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Speaker 2: guy kicks. They want to kick that thing like like

488
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 2: it's a rugby ball. They want almost they want it

489
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Speaker 2: almost round.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they want it over inflate, right.

491
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Speaker 2: They want it over inflated and soft. The ball that

492
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Speaker 2: comes out of the box is everything. But so so.

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Speaker 1: Let's look at what the league wants in the kicking game.

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Speaker 1: What does the league want in the kicking.

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Speaker 2: Game, Steve?

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Speaker 1: They want more turns, right, Yeah. Do you think they're

497
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Speaker 1: gonna help kickers kick the ball further?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: No, no, But they don't want more balls in the field.

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Speaker 3: If play, they want the ball in the field to play.

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Speaker 2: They can change it to the balls in the field

502
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Speaker 2: to play without and then they can give the kickers

503
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Speaker 2: whatever they want. You're kicking from your own twenty, that's right, Yeah,

504
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 2: you're kicking from the twenty. Good luck, good luck, and

505
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Speaker 2: the landing zone is between the fifty and the goal line.

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Speaker 3: Have at it.

507
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Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, it's they can do it if they want.

508
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Speaker 2: They just don't want to go full chaos is their problem.

509
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Speaker 2: They're not they're not turning. They're not turning to the

510
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Speaker 2: dark side completely. They just need to widen that landing

511
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Speaker 2: area out to the thirty five and let that ball

512
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Speaker 2: bounce around down there. Chaos will ensue and it'll be

513
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Speaker 2: it'll be fun for the game and you'll have then

514
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Speaker 2: you can have give teams a way to do it

515
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Speaker 2: and find success. I'm telling you, man that just go

516
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: full chaos. But the football's come on, Nobody cares. Really,

517
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Speaker 2: I'm serious, nobody cares. The only people that care the

518
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Speaker 2: guy kicking it. Just kick it.

519
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Speaker 1: Just the team proposing it, well, the seven teams proposing it.

520
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they because they're getting complaints from the kickers.

521
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Speaker 1: They believe there's power in numbers by having seven teams,

522
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Speaker 1: I guess admit this proposal.

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Speaker 2: They want the team if the football side of this says, listen,

524
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Speaker 2: when I send my field goal kicker out there, I

525
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: want the thing to go through the uprights and do

526
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: everything you can to make that happen. I don't want to,

527
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 2: you know, and the kickers want it because it's job security.

528
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: You can make ninety nine out of one hundred with

529
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Speaker 2: the ball that they work and doctor up. You get

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Speaker 2: one of those out of the box. Maybe not so

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Speaker 2: much so, I'm it's how much variation do you want?

532
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Speaker 2: Is basically it how much do you want to put

533
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: on the guy that's come on, that's petty.

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Speaker 3: I don't don't.

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00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: Don't bother me with these details.

536
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: I don't know this kick the ball.

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Speaker 1: So if you're kicking, hey, you're giving this one an

538
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: eye roll?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yes, stop it.

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00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: Who's the head of the competition?

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00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, stop it right now?

542
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: That's that. Yeah, I don't want to hear this.

543
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: There were only about nine proposals in total, which is

545
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Speaker 1: a low number.

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00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: The pretty big one is the five yard automatic illegal

547
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 2: contact holding. If you do that, you're gonna have a

548
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: ton of guys just grab it, clutching and grab it

549
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: and just daring the officials to call it.

550
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that it's not if it's removed. Yeah, the

551
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: automatic first down.

552
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: The automatic first down is very punitive, very and.

553
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Speaker 1: It's also I think it was done on purpose.

554
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and because here's because this, because of what we're

555
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: talking about. You'll just teams just tackle a guy. Yeah,

556
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: and okay, you're you got a third nineteen or you're

557
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: not getting it on this third. You might get it

558
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Speaker 2: on the next third when it's third and fourteen after

559
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Speaker 2: a five yard Yeah, but you're gonna have to do

560
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: it again, and they're gonna and you're gonna happy again

561
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: after that. That's that, And the officials will just say,

562
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Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to you know, Yeah, this

563
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 2: is gonna look bad on me if I start, If

564
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: I call four holdings in a row and then they

565
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Speaker 2: turn around the other team, I don't call any on

566
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Speaker 2: because they don't do it.

567
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Speaker 3: That's hard to do.

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Speaker 2: So I'm talking myself out of it now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Topic of discussion for you today. You've heard Steve and

571
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: I debate back and forth the merits for a contract

572
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: extension for James Cook. We're asking you today, where is

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Speaker 1: your level of urgency on a scale of one to

574
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Speaker 1: ten to extend Christian Benford or James Cook. You let

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Speaker 1: us know at eight h three oh five point fifty

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00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: one eighty eight five point fifty two, five fifty the

577
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: numbers to get on board, and we're taking your phone calls.

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Speaker 1: Next here on one Bill's Live, presented by co Lot

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Speaker 1: of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right back here

580
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Speaker 1: on one of Bill's Live, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with

581
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Speaker 1: you and question we post to you today, where is

582
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Speaker 1: your level of urgency on a scale of one to

583
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 1: ten to extend Christian Benford or James Cook? You let

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Speaker 1: us know at eight oh three five fifty one eight

585
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: eight five fifty two, five point fifty. We have seen

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Speaker 1: four players get contract extensions already this offseason. There are

587
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Speaker 1: other members of this young corps that I think we'd

588
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Speaker 1: like to see kept in the fold. But as we

589
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Speaker 1: know the business of the NFL, and we've seen it

590
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: in years past, you can't keep everybody long term. Both

591
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: of these guys are under contract this coming season. But

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Speaker 1: you let us know what your level of urgency is

593
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Speaker 1: to extend either one of them.

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Speaker 2: You've been listening, you know how BROWNI and I feel

595
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Speaker 2: about both these guys.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 2: Benford and at some of the feedback we've gotten acts

598
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Speaker 2: like or is under the impression that Benford's an injury risk.

599
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 2: I don't see him as that. I mean, he's started

600
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Speaker 2: seventeen games two years in a row, started all the

601
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Speaker 2: playoff games this year. The only thing he did was probably,

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, probably came back from the concussion that

603
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: he got in the Baltimore game. He probably should not

604
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: have played in the Chiefs game because it seemed to

605
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 2: happen too easily again, and which is what happens when

606
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: he come back from an concussion too fast, the next

607
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: one comes a little easier.

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Speaker 3: He should be good to go from now on.

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Speaker 2: And I'm so, I'm I don't think Benford is an

610
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Speaker 2: injury risk at all, and he's been a really top

611
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 2: flight corner. I'm much more interested in making sure he's

612
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Speaker 2: on board than I am James Cook, although I love

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Speaker 2: James Cook too.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the the guys.

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00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: That a force a force multiplier, maybe, but I think

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00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: it's it's harder to find corners than it is running backs.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the phones at eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: point fifty one, eight eight five, and we lead off

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Speaker 1: with William in Buffalo. What you got for this, William,

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Speaker 1: You're on one Bill's life.

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Speaker 5: Hey, great, good afternoon. I am. I'm less inclined to

622
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Speaker 5: stick with James Cook, and I think it's unfortunate that

623
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Speaker 5: the way he's taken down any of the Bill's stuff

624
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 5: on his website. I got a question for Steve, if

625
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Speaker 5: I can sure Steve, when you played football back in

626
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Speaker 5: high school and got popped with a concussion any worse

627
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 5: back in high school than it was in the NFL?

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Speaker 5: Or was it about the same.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to put

630
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Speaker 2: anybody off, but I they're the same. I mean, my

631
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Speaker 2: first concussion was when I was eight years old. I

632
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 2: mean I was I'm the youngest of four sons. I mean,

633
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 2: stuff's gonna happen. Stuff's gonna And it happened, and it happened.

634
00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: Didn't happen in football. It happened at a basketball camp

635
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: and I got knocked cold.

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Speaker 1: Oh you were out?

637
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Well not apparently not, Because I woke. I came to

638
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 2: holding a ice bag on my temple or wherever I

639
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 2: got hit, holding it on my own head. But then

640
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 2: I realized where I could realize where I was and

641
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: doing all that, because up until then I guess I

642
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: had interacted or whatever it seemed like I was on.

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Speaker 2: Then I got more than one concussion at Northwestern University

644
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: and maybe more than one in the pros. They were

645
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: all like there was like eleven years between some of them. Yeah,

646
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 2: so which is a good thing, Yeah, absolutely, But no,

647
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 2: there each one is in and of itself a different

648
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 2: kind of cat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you can't really compare, because it's hard.

650
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Speaker 2: I can't even compare the concussions I had because I

651
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: you know, you get hitting different. I got hit in

652
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: the back of the head for one of them or

653
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: two of them, and that's that's kind of what happened

654
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: to me a couple of times eleven years apart. So No,

655
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Speaker 2: there are obviously grays of concussions how severe they are,

656
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 2: and sometimes you think you might have one and don't know,

657
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 2: and other times you can't tell, and that's because you

658
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 2: do have one, you know, that kind of stuff. So

659
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: it's it's hard to to quantify how they are. But

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Speaker 2: I know this too from what I understand. I'm no doctor,

661
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 2: but obviously I have some interest in this. The if

662
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 2: you are allowed to come back from a concussion fully,

663
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 2: you're no more susceptible to getting another one than you

664
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: were beforehand. The first concussion doesn't affect your ability to

665
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 2: get a second or keep you from getting a that

666
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: can or make the second one worse if you're fully

667
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 2: healed from the first one. The problem is you feel

668
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 2: great way before you are great. So you feel great

669
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: and then you say, yeah, I'm good, let's go. That's,

670
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: you know, so what I used to do.

671
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: Right, which is why they have their return to play protocol.

672
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: That's right in places to try to avoid.

673
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: You got to prepare, you got to come.

674
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: And it's one of those injuries where you really have

675
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: to protect the player from the player from himself because

676
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: you feel fantastic. That's why when Tua got his his concussion,

677
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 2: that he's going to come back and play because you

678
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 2: feel great, He's going to come back as soon as

679
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: he's allowed to, you know. And you can say, and

680
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 2: I know, Mom said, well you got to think about

681
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 2: his future. Yeah, well yeah, but that's hard to convince

682
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 2: somebody who feels like a million bucks and is making fifty.

683
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: And is a you know, pro athlete, ultimate competitor.

684
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 2: Most these guys spend their whole lives over coming challenges

685
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: and this concussion is just one more and there that's

686
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 2: and it's not even that difficult as long as all

687
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 2: you gotta is wait it out.

688
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: Let's go to Judy in Buffalo next. What's up, Judy?

689
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,400
Speaker 6: You know, I really think that this year, Curse Samuel

690
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 6: May emerged as a real frigging asset on the offensive

691
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 6: side of our football team. We have a team with

692
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 6: the best quarterback in the league that can score thirty

693
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 6: to thirty five points. So I think that's that's to

694
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 6: our our our plus advantage. But I also think you

695
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 6: can't do enough to help him. We've got to use

696
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:43,040
Speaker 6: the first two draft choices to move up in the

697
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 6: draft and get a quality receiver that can run down

698
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 6: the field, maybe catch a ball, or just help us offensively.

699
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:57,840
Speaker 6: Use the other eight draft choices to shore up our defense,

700
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 6: because I'm sorry, but I think defense is a dime

701
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 6: a dozen. You don't know what you're going to get

702
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 6: until you get it.

703
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Judy, Yeah, I mean sure. I think

704
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: I think the thing that's missing from Buffalo's passing game,

705
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: at least in terms of the receiver position, is they

706
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: don't have a guy that you say, there's your there's

707
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: your split end, there's your ex you know, like, there's

708
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 1: nobody ultimately defined for that role on this roster as

709
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: we speak today. They have guys that could be candidates,

710
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 1: but there's nobody, you know what, there's our that's our

711
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: guy and every week that's our guy. And the opponent

712
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: knows it too, don't. They don't have that guy at receiver.

713
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: So if you want to make a case to add

714
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: a receiver, sure, but man, the list is long in

715
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: terms of the holes on the defensive side of the ball.

716
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: I don't know what.

717
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 2: Yes, right, there isn't that guy that was part of

718
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 2: what made him successful last year.

719
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: This last year.

720
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 2: Everybody wants that guy. They want a guy, and most

721
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: teams don't have the wherewithal or the philosophy or whatever

722
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: to do what the Bills did last year. And you

723
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 2: can call it what you want. Maybe they stumbled onto it,

724
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: but they cut their best wide receiver loose last year

725
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 2: and ate thirty million bucks on the cap to do it.

726
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: Yes, let's also not forget that they ran the ball

727
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: more than they have probably in the last five years,

728
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: and Josh's passing yardage had taken a considerable drop in

729
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: total production, and the leading receiver in terms of receiving touchdowns,

730
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: had five five, was the team leader. Why because you

731
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: got extraordinary scoring production from the running back position. And

732
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking about James Cook, talking about Ray Davis,

733
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: Ty Johnson. Those guys provided the bulk of the scoring

734
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 1: last season, whether they were catching it or running.

735
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: It in that's right.

736
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 2: Cook had sixteen rushing, two receiving and two receiving. And

737
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: Ty Johnson, Ray Davis, they both they were all there.

738
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they eat. No one had less than five,

739
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: right total touchdowns in the running back room, right Cook

740
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Cook had eighteen, tied for the league lead and rushing.

741
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: Touch Davis had three receiving.

742
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: Three receiving, and he had a cut. He definitely ran

743
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: a few.

744
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: In right, how many run in? Davis had three?

745
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: He had six six total and Ty Johnson I think

746
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: had even more than that.

747
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 3: Ty Johnson had one rushing and.

748
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: Three all right, so he had four Yeah, so four.

749
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: Six and one rushing, three receivings four to six and eighteen.

750
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:08,200
Speaker 1: So that's my.

751
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: Point was this My point is this.

752
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 2: Everybody says, well, we got to get one of the

753
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: we gotta get a big time X wide receiver and

754
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 2: I said, I've always said great players make you better.

755
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 2: I mean better players make you better. Right, that's if

756
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 2: you get better players, you're gonna your team's going to

757
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 2: be better. And maybe they got a little too much

758
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 2: mileage out of addition by subtraction with Digs and Davis, Right,

759
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 2: I mean that's what we're looking at. You got gave

760
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: Davis Steph Diggs both out of the room, and you

761
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: cleared the decks and there was nobody who was over

762
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,399
Speaker 2: there pound on the table saying give me the ball,

763
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: Give me the ball, give me the ball. In other words,

764
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: in short order, you had a quarterback going listen, guys,

765
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: get open. I'm throwing the one who's open. And it

766
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: was highly effective. Now, if you can bring a big

767
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: time X guy, if you brought in Jamar Chase by

768
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,720
Speaker 2: some stroke of the pen, but for the sake of argument,

769
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 2: you bring in Jamar Chase, or this your dk me.

770
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 3: You named one of those guys. Is he gonna accept.

771
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: Everybody eats mantra?

772
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 2: He has he.

773
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 3: Gonna do that?

774
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Is he gonna accept the everybody eats mantra where he's

775
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 2: gonna get maybe forty five catches for whatever yardage you know,

776
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,720
Speaker 2: or fifty catches along with five or six other guys.

777
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,280
Speaker 1: Right, So, but there's there's a second layer to that, Steve.

778
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: So if you continue to go with the everybody eats

779
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 1: mantra on offense and decide against bringing in an alpha

780
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: for fear of him upsetting the apple cart, well, the

781
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: less production you're gonna get in your passing game has

782
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: to be made up somewhere, and I think it has

783
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: to be made up in your offensive backfield. And that's

784
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,360
Speaker 1: why you need a guy like James Cook in the fold.

785
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 2: Well, they certainly ran the ball well enough, no question

786
00:41:57,880 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: about it. But as you said, I mean he only

787
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: had you only had two hundred and seven carries.

788
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: And then Josh says you are also using the other running.

789
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,240
Speaker 2: Backs and Ray had one hundred and thirteen.

790
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, this team was almost by Johnson had forty one.

791
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: This team was almost a fifty to fifty team run

792
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: to pass.

793
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm and they they scored more points when it

794
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 2: was all said and done than anybody. So I'm I

795
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: don't know if I've changed philosophies, is my point. And

796
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, getting a better x X

797
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: or having Keon Coleman explode, you know, is not a

798
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: good thing. It's it is. And I'll say this too,

799
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 2: I really believe, and I've said it a million times

800
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 2: and I've subscribed to this philosophy. When you get into

801
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: these moments like the and the Bills are gonna be

802
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: there in this next year. They're gonna be in these right.

803
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 2: They're gonna get in the AFC Championship Game, they're gonna

804
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: get in the Wild Car Round, they're gonna get in

805
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 2: the Vision Around, they're gonna get in the play a

806
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: game for the division title. And there's gonna be moments

807
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 2: in all these regular season games where you need a

808
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:00,759
Speaker 2: guy to step up and we got to have it.

809
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: When you don't have that, you just got a bunch

810
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: of guys. That's what you're looking for, right, And that's

811
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 2: where we all fall victim to this, like we need

812
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 2: that guy that when when everybody knows he's gonna get

813
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: the ball, you still give it to him.

814
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's why Judy was saying what she

815
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: was saying.

816
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 3: That's ice.

817
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: Hell, I gosh, when you get into those moments, you

818
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,359
Speaker 2: don't think run past whatever, you don't think play, you

819
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: think player who who is it? And it's for Philly,

820
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 2: it's gonna be Saquon right. For Cincinnati, it's gonna be Jamar.

821
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: For all these other teams, they got a guy that they're.

822
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: Gonna there is it for Buffalo?

823
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: Right that it's seventeen, that's who it is. And I

824
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 2: don't know, you know, but you know six times in

825
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: the game you got a tush push thing going and

826
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: you're only successful three or four then you got a

827
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: problem or four for seven, four for seven, so that

828
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: that's a problem.

829
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here, but more of

830
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 1: your phone calls when we come back. Where's your level

831
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: of urgency to extend? Christian Benford and Jais Cocula us know?

832
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 1: Next here on One Bill's Live, stay with us. I'm

833
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: gonna get right back to the phones here on One

834
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. As we're asking you, where's your level of

835
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: urgency to extend? Christian Benford and James Cook both are

836
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: under contract for the twenty twenty five season, but both

837
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: both entering the last year of their rookie deals. We

838
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: go to Gary on a sale. Next, what's up Gary? Hey, guys?

839
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: I all doing good good well? I mean it's gonna

840
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 7: come down to money and you sing a couple of players,

841
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 7: the corners and running backs get big money. And I mean,

842
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 7: obviously I were a sign one. It's gonna be Benford.

843
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 7: Even though I love Cook, you gotta signed the corner.

844
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 7: As far as what Miss Judy said there, she's awesome,

845
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 7: but it's got to be defense. Defense, defense, guys, please

846
00:44:59,280 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 7: love a god.

847
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm kind of with you.

848
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 2: They proved with Josh and I know Josh is the

849
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: great security blanket for everything that is Buffalo Bills these days.

850
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 2: And it's true, he's the best player in the league

851
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: and he just proved that you don't got to do

852
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: that to win even you know the games. They lost

853
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: one game last year to Baltimore on early in the

854
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: season bad. I mean Baltimore lumped him up good. If

855
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: you remember thirty five to ten or something in Week.

856
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: Four, it was that we was the only one by

857
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: more than one score.

858
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And like they sad an NFL record, So

859
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: it's they're tough to beat. And they've proven more so

860
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 2: than anything else whoever they get on that side of

861
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 2: the ball. And they've they've got a great offensive line,

862
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: they've got very solid tight end group, and they've got

863
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: some wide receivers, some of whom you feel like you've

864
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: got to still tap into.

865
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 3: Samuel was hurt all year.

866
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: Kincaid was hurt most of the year, or at least

867
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: hobbled most of the year, as was Samuel. Coleman was

868
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: nicked up, got a wrist injury, mon missed a month.

869
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: Cooper gets here midway through, then get misses a couple

870
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 2: of games. The only guy that was on it all

871
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: year was Shakiro. He's the one, and Hollins and and

872
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: Shaki ended up leading the team in receptions by a

873
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 2: mile with seventy six receptions.

874
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 3: So I just and you know, the offensive line. I mean,

875
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: I don't want to.

876
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm just saying this is a I'm exaggerating to make

877
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: a point. Brownie could have played running back behind that

878
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 2: line and run for Yes, we would have had a

879
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: couple of nice games.

880
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: Right.

881
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,480
Speaker 2: So they're just they're just loaded at some spots and

882
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 2: still loaded at quarterback. They're loaded at offensive line, and

883
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,840
Speaker 2: they're loaded it running back tight end. I just have

884
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 2: a hard time going high in the draft to get

885
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: a wide receiver thinking that's going to be some sort

886
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 2: of difference. Man, they're scoring thirty points a game, now.

887
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I just I'm not not a I'm and.

888
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: What may And Gary's right, like, defense is the priority, first, priority, one, two,

889
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:06,959
Speaker 1: and three.

890
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 2: That's right.

891
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: And for a couple of reasons. One you can argue,

892
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: right now, as the roster is currently constituted, you need

893
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: a starter at corner, and you can argue you need

894
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: somebody to challenge for a starting role at safety, and

895
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: you need a starter. You need someone to challenge for

896
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: a starting role at defensive tackle. And you need someone

897
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: to challenge or at least be in the pipeline to

898
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: be potentially ready to start next year at defensive end

899
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: because you got Epins in the last year of his

900
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 1: deal in Bosa on a one year contract, So you

901
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: might need to draft a pass rusher that you think

902
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: could develop fast enough to be a starter by twenty

903
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: twenty six. I mean, these are enormous priorities. And oh,

904
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 1: by the way, you're gonna need depth for the interior

905
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: of your defensive line because two of the guys you

906
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: sign a free agency can't play until mid October. Yeah,

907
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: so I think that offense is even gonna be a

908
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: shred of a thought on day one, or perhaps even

909
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: day two. I think it's nuts.

910
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: It could be that that they're gonna just just keep

911
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 2: on keeping on, and it could be that they go

912
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: to this draft. It could be that they're gonna sign

913
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 2: a couple of guys still in the second wave of

914
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 2: free agency.

915
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: They got all kinds can happen. That it could happen, and.

916
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: They probably will.

917
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, they gotta do it somehow. They gotta get

918
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 3: ninety guys.

919
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 2: Uh, and right now the Bills have sixty seven under contract.

920
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 2: They're gonna sign some guys. But are they gonna move

921
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 2: the needle. Yeah, you know, probably not right, probably not

922
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 2: unless you get one of those you know, one of

923
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: those guys that's hanging out there. Uh, that's big money.

924
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 2: But they're gonna have some money to spend. They're gonna

925
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 2: get some guys to play D line and all this,

926
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 2: and they're gonna try. They're going to continue to try,

927
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 2: even though now it's like they haven't signed three defensive linemen,

928
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,480
Speaker 2: which they have, but you know, now two of them

929
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: are gone for six games. It's like they haven't signed him.

930
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: So maybe they'll sign some more. They got to sign

931
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,959
Speaker 2: some more for the first couple of weeks, or maybe

932
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 2: they'll just get to a point where they don't have

933
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: to go into the draft saying Okay, now we gotta

934
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 2: take this guy or a position.

935
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want it. They don't like being in

936
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: that position. But with the limited amount of cap dollars

937
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: and ten draft picks, Brandon Bean might be right back

938
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: in the same boat he was last year when he said,

939
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 1: we have to nail this draft class.

940
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: Well, they always want to nail it. Well, you gys

941
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: do their best to nail it, but it.

942
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: Seems impaired, seems pretty imperative.

943
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: It really does.

944
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: And I'm with you one hundred percent. I mean, you

945
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,879
Speaker 2: need to get to a spot where you can pick

946
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: the best player. But man, oh man, you hope that

947
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: it's going to be the best defensive player. You don't

948
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: want to be the best defensive back player, or you

949
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 2: don't want to be the best corner that's left. That's

950
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 2: when you're in deep trouble, because, as it's been said

951
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 2: a million times, need is a horrible evaluator.

952
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: Break time for us here when we begin our number two,

953
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it with our good friend from NFL

954
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: dot Com, Eric at Hoolme. He's got a mock draft

955
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: coming up in the not too distant future. He's also

956
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: got some power rankings for the league based on how

957
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,959
Speaker 1: free agency has gone through its first week. We'll chat

958
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 1: with him about that. We'll take some more of your

959
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: phone calls after we're done with Eric here on One

960
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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Colida Health.

961
00:50:34,239 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 8: It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

962
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: This the One Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

963
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: First Brown Steve Tasker with you for hour number two

964
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 1: here on a Wednesday, and please to be joined now

965
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 1: by draft analysts for NFL dot Com. Eric Edholm joining

966
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: us here already has his top one hundred NFL Draft

967
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: prospects listing out at NFL dot Com and also did

968
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: a little power ranking in the off season. Look at this,

969
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 1: I mean he's still cranking it out, you know, even

970
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: when people aren't playing games. He's using free agency as

971
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: his lever to pull here. So Eric, good to have

972
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: you with us. As always appreciate the time you had

973
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: the Bills in the five hole there on your rankings list.

974
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: After the first initial and major wave of free agency,

975
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: they did do a lot of work to re sign

976
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: their own their young core to extensions. Where do you

977
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of come down on them? You know, after the

978
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: dust has kind of settled on that first wave of

979
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: free agency.

980
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you saw a trend around the league

981
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 9: that certainly fit in with the Bills of re signing

982
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 9: core players. You know, the dirty little secret is that

983
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 9: it wasn't the greatest free agent class of all time,

984
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,239
Speaker 9: and you know, there weren't going to be as many

985
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 9: sort of showcase players swapping teams, and you know, I

986
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 9: think you saw that approach around around the league. But

987
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 9: I did like the Bills sort of being selectively aggressive

988
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,359
Speaker 9: at certain positions. Obviously defensive lines seem to get some

989
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 9: new bodies, even if there are some questions about the

990
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,440
Speaker 9: availability of those guys.

991
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,240
Speaker 4: But you know, come playoff time.

992
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 9: I think they're gonna want all the depth they can get,

993
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 9: especially considering how you know, certain games play out towards

994
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 9: the end of the year.

995
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean give in.

996
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 9: The landscape right now with freigency kind of you know,

997
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 9: dwindling to trickle at this point, with a lot of

998
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,479
Speaker 9: the hey in the in the veteran barn if you will,

999
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 9: you know, it's hard not to like the I would say,

1000
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:18,959
Speaker 9: the sense behind locking up your key guys, and also,

1001
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 9: you know, making certain moves that fit both the market

1002
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 9: and your needs.

1003
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's we're having a conversation today about Christian Benford,

1004
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: the corner who was a sixth round draft pick and

1005
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 2: has been a solid and sometimes spectacular corner and outperformed

1006
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 2: his contract. And James Cook who James Cook who at

1007
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: running back was maybe behind Josh Allen, was the biggest

1008
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: engine on an offense that scored more points than anybody

1009
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: in the league when it was all said and done

1010
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 2: last year. So you got two of these guys, both

1011
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 2: key on their sides of the ball. How much weight

1012
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 2: do you give to each one? And maybe there's a

1013
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: priority to getting re signed.

1014
00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:57,959
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1015
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 9: Obviously, anytime you have players who are due for free

1016
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 9: agency the following year, you see a lot of teams

1017
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,439
Speaker 9: obviously follow that pattern of let's draft for next year's needs,

1018
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 9: or at least protect ourselves in case those players, you know,

1019
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,799
Speaker 9: outprice themselves. If we can't afford them, you know, we're

1020
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 9: forced to either trade or move.

1021
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 4: On from them.

1022
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 9: Then you have somebody in the tank, and you have

1023
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,880
Speaker 9: somebody with a year under your belt. That makes a

1024
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 9: lot of sense from a team building standpoint. You've seen

1025
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 9: a lot of you know, teams like the Chiefs and

1026
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 9: Eagles do that successfully, Bills included as well, and so yeah,

1027
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 9: I mean I would say, you know, you have to

1028
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 9: decide what's the what's the number you're comfortable with for

1029
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 9: both guys. Obviously, you know, the running back market for

1030
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,800
Speaker 9: years has been depressed in terms of the financial element

1031
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 9: of it. I think we're seeing a little bit of

1032
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 9: a cycling back of the run game in the NFL,

1033
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 9: which pleases me. I'm an old school guy, but it's

1034
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 9: nice also to see some of those backs get paid.

1035
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 4: But you know, if his reported.

1036
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 9: Price is around fifteen million dollars, that puts him not

1037
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 9: at the top, but very close to the top. I

1038
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 9: think off the top, my had only Saquon Barkley and

1039
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 9: Christian McCaffrey would average more than that would come in.

1040
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 9: You know, that would be a deal very similar to

1041
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 9: what Jonathan Taylor received. So you know, obviously you have

1042
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 9: to figure out value and how much they matter to

1043
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 9: your system. But you know, as the Bills are still

1044
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 9: in that Super Bowl window, if you will, you know,

1045
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 9: whatever that means, I still think you have to, you know,

1046
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 9: consider keeping players like that, even if you have a

1047
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 9: Ray Davis or a Ty Johnson or somebody like that.

1048
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really curious case here, Eric, for both

1049
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: of these players, because, yes, corner, we know how important

1050
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: that position is. That market has also been reset with

1051
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 1: the Stingley deal, which makes it more expensive for anybody

1052
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: trying to sign a quality corner that they want to

1053
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: keep in the full to an extension. And then you

1054
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 1: have the running back to your point, yes, Barkley kind

1055
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: of reset the market with his two year extension a

1056
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: twenty million average annual value. I don't think Cook has

1057
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: the workload of a Barkley to maybe merit something close

1058
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: to that, And the franchise tag right now is still

1059
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,799
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half at running back, So you'd like

1060
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,760
Speaker 1: to think there's some common ground there. And I argue

1061
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: that you know, with an offense that's devoid of an

1062
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 1: alpha receiver, Cook is your best mismatch player on offense.

1063
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: After Allen, it almost behooves you to keep him. But

1064
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 1: then in the same breath, we know that in the

1065
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: draft it's a great class at running backs, and not

1066
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: for that matter, it's a great class. It's a pretty

1067
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,080
Speaker 1: good class of corners too, So it makes you wonder

1068
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: what the Bills are thinking here, and you know, they

1069
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,280
Speaker 1: extended four other guys but not these two, and coincidentally,

1070
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: the drafts strong at both of those positions.

1071
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, I would argue it's a little stronger, a little deeper,

1072
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 9: little more you know, flourished with high end talent at

1073
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 9: the running back position.

1074
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 4: But I think your point stands too.

1075
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,719
Speaker 9: I would also argue that of the two positions, if

1076
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 9: you're just looking at the roster right now, cornerback's probably

1077
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 9: the bigger concern.

1078
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 4: It's also sort of the.

1079
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 9: High priority position league wide, right you have to think

1080
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,879
Speaker 9: about what other player or what other teams rather will play,

1081
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 9: will pay for your players. So you know, if a

1082
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 9: Christian Benfer were to hit the market, do I think

1083
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 9: he would hit that twenty million dollars per year elite

1084
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 9: corner I think they're about you know, seven or eight

1085
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 9: guys who kind of fit that level. Probably not, but

1086
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 9: maybe not too far below that, given like you said,

1087
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 9: how the market kind of resets, and especially at these

1088
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 9: big positions like that. So you know, as far as

1089
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 9: immediate needs, I would say, you know, locking up Christian

1090
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 9: Benford first might make a little sense because you said

1091
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,439
Speaker 9: that the tag number for running backs still remains low

1092
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 9: and you can always kind of buttress that with one

1093
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:44,120
Speaker 9: of these fine backs in this class, and just like

1094
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 9: you know, like you did with Davis last year, and

1095
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 9: I think feel pretty good about yourself even if you

1096
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 9: had to let a great player go.

1097
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 4: So I see both sides of it as well.

1098
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,240
Speaker 2: I know you've done some work on this draft coming up.

1099
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: What's the top of this draft going to look like?

1100
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: When you've got a guy like a Travis who is well,

1101
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: you don't even as a question mark as to how

1102
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 2: you're going to use the guy, let alone that he

1103
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 2: may be the best player, Sure, where do you play him?

1104
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's a It throws a little extra

1105
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 2: degree of difficulty on the top of this draft, right.

1106
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 4: It does absolutely.

1107
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 9: I mean Hunter, you could argue as one of the

1108
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 9: more intriguing draft prospects at any position, much less two positions.

1109
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 9: Right in the last several seasons, and you know, just

1110
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 9: talking to people this offseason, it was clear that, you know,

1111
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 9: everybody had a little different view of it, right.

1112
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 4: Everybody felt like.

1113
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 9: They had their own kind of plan or what they

1114
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 9: would recommend, again not knowing necessarily what the coaches plans were,

1115
00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 9: a lot of conversations I had at the Combine, for instance,

1116
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 9: just with people who had washed them to that point.

1117
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 9: Maybe it was a director level person, maybe it was

1118
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 9: an area of scout who was out west and saw

1119
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 9: some Colorado games and they said, you know, you can

1120
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 9: make a case for him at either position. You could

1121
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 9: make a case for being able to do both on

1122
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 9: at least a part time level.

1123
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 4: But doing both at the same.

1124
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 9: Rate that he did at Colorado is you know, I

1125
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 9: think he's asking a lot.

1126
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 5: Right.

1127
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 9: We haven't seen an NFL player do this in many moons,

1128
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 9: So I think expecting somebody to come along at one

1129
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 9: hundred and you know, eighty pounds or whatever and be

1130
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 9: able to pick that up in the NFL is a

1131
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 9: little bit short sighted, I would say. So you have

1132
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 9: to have a plan for him, I think obviously, and decide,

1133
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 9: you know, what position are we starting him out at.

1134
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 9: Do we give him reps in the other spot? How

1135
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 9: do we divvy up the meeting room time. So he's

1136
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 9: this fascinating prospect, but in a way, you know, he's

1137
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 9: a lot. Like the draft class as a whole, there

1138
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 9: are still questions. I think the top of this draft

1139
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 9: right now, not only is it lacking in those blue

1140
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 9: chip players on the level of a Hunter or an

1141
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 9: Abdul Carter, whoever you want to throw in that mix.

1142
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,920
Speaker 9: But there's also just the uncertainty of how it's going

1143
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 9: to play out. We don't know the Titans' plans right now,

1144
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 9: we don't know the Browns what they're going to do

1145
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 9: at quarterback, the Giants, and so there's this big trickle

1146
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 9: down effect. And you know, people seem to think, at

1147
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 9: least in the conversations I've had the last few weeks,

1148
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 9: that really anything is possible at the top of this draft,

1149
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 9: and you can see a little chaos and some surprises

1150
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 9: up there.

1151
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Bills are gonna be waiting a whole lot

1152
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: longer sitting down there at thirty, for a lot of

1153
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: stuff to happen in front of them. And we know

1154
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean could move up, could move down. He's got

1155
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 1: ten picks at his disposal, so he has maneuverability. I

1156
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,640
Speaker 1: know you had an initial mock before the combine and

1157
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,640
Speaker 1: you had the Bills taking a defensive tackle out of

1158
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 1: Michigan and Kenneth Grant, And I know you've got another

1159
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 1: one coming up here soon, another mock draft that you're

1160
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: gonna release in the next week or so. Here do

1161
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,800
Speaker 1: you anticipate your your leanings changing as it pertains to

1162
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: the Bills, Because I think one thing's for certain, it's

1163
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody on the defensive side of the ball.

1164
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 1: The question is is it going to be on the

1165
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: front end or the back end when the Bills pick

1166
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:49,520
Speaker 1: at thirty.

1167
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the question I think I have for him.

1168
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 4: I could see edge.

1169
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 9: I could see an interior defender, you know, zero one

1170
01:00:57,760 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 9: technique type of defensive tackle like Kenneth.

1171
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,520
Speaker 4: I could see a cornerback for sure.

1172
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 9: You know that's a position now that that feels lean,

1173
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 9: even with Dan Jackson back and you know what you

1174
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 9: have in him and probably feel pretty comfortable starting in

1175
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,720
Speaker 9: week one if you need to. But obviously you know

1176
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 9: long term depth, you know, things like that flexibility. You'd

1177
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 9: love to add at least one more body there, I

1178
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:21,960
Speaker 9: would imagine. So those are probably the positions that we're

1179
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 9: considering in that area, and we the Bills, right I

1180
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 9: think it's it's gonna be interesting. Like you said, I think,

1181
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 9: you know, the cornerback class is good, and it's good

1182
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 9: enough to where most of the top players should still.

1183
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 4: Be in the mix.

1184
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
Speaker 9: There There's also the interesting thing about the you know,

1185
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 9: it's kind of like the discussion we have at at

1186
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 9: offensive line, where are they a tackle?

1187
01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 4: Are they a guard?

1188
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 9: We're having some of the same conversations with some of

1189
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 9: the dbs. Are they an outside corner or are they nickel

1190
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 9: or do you see him in kind of a hybrid

1191
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 9: roll or something. So, you know, it does maybe slim

1192
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 9: the pool just a little bit. But you know, Macwell Harriston,

1193
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 9: for instance, ran a four to two eight at the Combine,

1194
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 9: and after an injury plague season, I think he needed it.

1195
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 9: Maybe that puts him in that that Bill's range somewhere

1196
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 9: in the late first round. A couple defensive tackles didn't

1197
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 9: work out fully at the Combine. Maybe there's still a

1198
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,720
Speaker 9: little reservation, or it's a deep enough class people fall

1199
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 9: that could offer some pretty good players some options there.

1200
01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 9: So those are the two spots that I would probably

1201
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,640
Speaker 9: lean towards. I haven't gotten the Bills pick yet in

1202
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 9: my mock, so I can't really even give you a spoiler,

1203
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 9: but I would say those are the two that, if

1204
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 9: you know, if the right players on the board, I

1205
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 9: would probably lean heavily towards.

1206
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Bills have three picks in the first they

1207
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: have thirtieth and then fifty six and sixty two.

1208
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 3: And we're talking.

1209
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 2: Brownie and I are like, you know you're gonna you're

1210
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,040
Speaker 2: thinking at thirtieth and I and I've put this on

1211
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 2: our white board in our office. I don't think the

1212
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,080
Speaker 2: Bills will pick thirtieth. I think they're gonna move up

1213
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: or down.

1214
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 3: We saw them move.

1215
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 2: Twice last year. We've seen them move up and down.

1216
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 2: We've rarely seen them pick at the you know, on

1217
01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: the pick that they've got going into day one.

1218
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: But if you've got.

1219
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: Thirty, fifty six and sixty two, would you think it's

1220
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: unheard of to get two defensive linemen at fifty six

1221
01:03:12,560 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 2: sixty two or thirty and fifty six or whatever that

1222
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 2: are quality enough to be considered value picks that high.

1223
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, it would be interesting to double up at a position. Obviously,

1224
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 9: they could also do it a corner if they wanted to. Right,

1225
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:28,439
Speaker 9: I'd like to see a receiver in the mix as well,

1226
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 9: if I'm being greedy, if if I can cover all

1227
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 9: my wants and needs and everything like that.

1228
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,440
Speaker 4: But yeah, it's gonna be very interesting to see.

1229
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 9: How they play the top of the draft because to

1230
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 9: your point, you know, last year, even if it ends

1231
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 9: up working out long term, there was this sort of

1232
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 9: you know, outsider perspective. Maybe they were a little passive

1233
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 9: there and let a pretty good player, pretty good receiver

1234
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 9: across their face if you will, and go to a

1235
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 9: division rival in Xavier Worthy. So you know, I know

1236
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 9: that point's probably been you know, drilled down too much

1237
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 9: a little bit, but I wonder if it doesn't at

1238
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 9: least open up the possibility for being more aggressive and

1239
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 9: seeing that opportunity. You know, a team like the Minnesota

1240
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 9: Vikings at twenty four, I look at and say, I

1241
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 9: think they only have like four picks right now, off

1242
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 9: the top of my head, I can't remember the exact number,

1243
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,439
Speaker 9: but you know, that's a prime candidate to move down.

1244
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,560
Speaker 9: You could imagine them wanting to slide back and add

1245
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 9: a little bit more volume to their draft class. And

1246
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,920
Speaker 9: even you know, even if they've been loading up in fregency.

1247
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,320
Speaker 9: So yeah, I would say, you know, if there are

1248
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 9: those opportunities to make a hop, skip and a jump

1249
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,760
Speaker 9: up the draft and the right players there, and they

1250
01:04:33,800 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 9: don't feel like it can get you know, ninety percent

1251
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 9: of that prospect to where they're picking move up as

1252
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 9: a real possibility, And I think it's all about selective

1253
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:47,160
Speaker 9: aggression when you see those opportunities. You know, like Alexander

1254
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 9: the Great, right, why was he a great general? He

1255
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:51,640
Speaker 9: saw opportunities that he took them. And I think that's

1256
01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 9: how a lot of teams approach the drafts.

1257
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 1: All right, I want to take that one step further

1258
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,600
Speaker 1: with you, Eric before we let you go. Because the Bills,

1259
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,840
Speaker 1: as you say, all there have no third round picks.

1260
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 1: You just did your top one hundred prospects. Talking to

1261
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: some people at the combine, they believe there is a

1262
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: considerable drop off once you get through the middle stages

1263
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: of round four. The Bills have two four's, three fives,

1264
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: two six's. How how worthwhile could you foresee it being

1265
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,480
Speaker 1: to move back into round three and at least make

1266
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: a pick somewhere in the top ninety some odd picks

1267
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: because of the drop off that could be that they

1268
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: could find in front of them come day three.

1269
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question, you know.

1270
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 9: And anytime you have kind of a large gap between

1271
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 9: two selections, whether it's your first and second pick or

1272
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,400
Speaker 9: your your third and fourth picks, and you know, you're

1273
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,120
Speaker 9: always going to wonder is that going to end up

1274
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 9: being a sweet spot or is that going to end

1275
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 9: up having some players at a position that we still

1276
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:52,840
Speaker 9: need to you know.

1277
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 4: Check that box off, so to speak.

1278
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 9: I guess, you know, the answer sort of depends on

1279
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 9: what they do with thirty fifty six and sixty two.

1280
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,680
Speaker 9: Are those part of a package you know at all,

1281
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 9: to move up if they end up standing pat or

1282
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 9: do you move back from sixty two somewhere.

1283
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 4: In the in the you know, the middle or.

1284
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 9: Early parts around three just to kind of balance it

1285
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 9: out a little bit. So you're not going, you know,

1286
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,040
Speaker 9: fifty some odds selections between picks. Now, that's you know,

1287
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 9: with some of these rounds that have compensatory picks. You know,

1288
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 9: you're getting close to fifty selections anyway at the fattest

1289
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,240
Speaker 9: rounds in these drafts, but that's more towards the end.

1290
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 9: So yeah, I mean, I wouldn't be shocked by by

1291
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 9: multiple moves in this draft.

1292
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 4: Obviously.

1293
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 9: It feels like as a staff and as a as

1294
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 9: a scouting staff, they really do stay nimble. They have

1295
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 9: a plan, but they're willing to kind of adjust on

1296
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 9: the fly. I think we've seen that a few times,

1297
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 9: at least based on what I've been able to tell.

1298
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean, I don't know.

1299
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 9: That there's gonna be one position that just blows you away,

1300
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,080
Speaker 9: but I think there will be some running backs, some

1301
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 9: tight ends, and also maybe a few you know, straggler

1302
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:02,080
Speaker 9: defensive linemen who for whatever reason, were projected to go

1303
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:05,360
Speaker 9: in the first fifty sixty picks that may end up

1304
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 9: lasting a little longer than expected.

1305
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 2: We've seen in the last few years and started to

1306
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Speaker 2: take note of the fact that you get into the third, fourth, fifth, sixth,

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01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:19,960
Speaker 2: seven round, the evaluations of the same players become more

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01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 2: and more and more wide ranging. How do you think

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01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 2: that's going to play out in this particular draft class.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think sometimes the X factors that I've been

1311
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 9: able to tell can can be based on character evaluation.

1312
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 9: You know, a player who may be a good fit

1313
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 9: for one club may not fit for another, and that

1314
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 9: could obviously reflect whether they're.

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Speaker 4: Even on a draft board.

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Speaker 9: For that matter, it also could be an analysis of

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Speaker 9: their injury history. You may have a player with several,

1318
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 9: you know, career injuries and you say to yourself, boy,

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01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 9: this is a real risk.

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Speaker 4: We're we're gonna move them down to our sub border.

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Speaker 9: This player is going to have a big red mark

1322
01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:02,080
Speaker 9: by their name on our draft, and that could obviously

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Speaker 9: change things quite a bit. There are also teams who

1324
01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:08,000
Speaker 9: put way more emphasis on the on field work, and

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01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 9: then there are some that put way more emphasis into

1326
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 9: the measurables, and so those sorts of things tend to

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01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 9: kind of offer some some wide variation and stuff. But yeah,

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01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 9: every year there's there's a player that or a handful

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Speaker 9: of players that go way higher. You know, let's say

1330
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,839
Speaker 9: a dozen guys that are way beyond where I expected

1331
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 9: them to be drafted, and then also another you know,

1332
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 9: half dozen a dozen who go either undrafted or fall

1333
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:33,679
Speaker 9: significantly in the draft.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, I.

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01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 9: If there's an X factor, I would say character and

1336
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 9: injury are probably the biggest ones that tend to come up.

1337
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 9: But you know, you never really know. Obviously, there could

1338
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 9: just be players who are sort of viewed as square

1339
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 9: pegs and round holes, and you know, I don't know

1340
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,479
Speaker 9: that there's one position that's kind of loaded up with

1341
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 9: those kinds of cases. But again, the deeper positions tend

1342
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 9: to have more options, more different types of players, and

1343
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 9: maybe more questions for some of these talented guys who

1344
01:09:01,720 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 9: have a few asterisks by their name, if you will.

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Speaker 1: Eric, thanks is always for the insight. We appreciate it

1346
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 1: and we'll keep an eye out for your mock draft

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Speaker 1: next week on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 4: All right, thank you very much, fellas. Take it easy, man.

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Speaker 1: That's Eric get at home joining us NFL dot Com

1350
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:19,280
Speaker 1: Draft analyst. It was good to stays on top of

1351
01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 1: the prospect pool, so we'd like to tap into his

1352
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: expertise to get the four to one one on the

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: class as a whole.

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Speaker 2: I love it when I love mock draft season because

1355
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:31,759
Speaker 2: it it just gives.

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Speaker 3: You a whole menu of players you got to go

1357
01:09:32,960 --> 01:09:33,320
Speaker 3: look at.

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01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they think, yeah, this guy's it's a little

1359
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: bit of a cribsheet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely absolutely.

1361
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Speaker 2: Plus we have Maddie in here once a week with

1362
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,200
Speaker 2: the mock draft wa wash. She plows through like nine

1363
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:47,360
Speaker 2: gazillion of them. This guy has been mocked to the

1364
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 2: bills thirty seven times.

1365
01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, good stuff.

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01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 1: Uh, let's get back to the phones. Though we touched

1367
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 1: on it briefly with Eric when we had him on,

1368
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,759
Speaker 1: but we're talking about level of urgency to extend Christian

1369
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,439
Speaker 1: Ben and James Cook. So we want to get back

1370
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: to the phones where we've had some people waiting patiently.

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01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: We go to Mark in Jersey City. What do you

1372
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: have for us?

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Speaker 2: Mark?

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Speaker 10: Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for saying my call. I'm with Steve.

1375
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 10: It's so much harder to find corners, particularly Benford type corners.

1376
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 10: And that's a guy took in the sixth round and

1377
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,320
Speaker 10: he totally erased your first round corner that you took

1378
01:10:24,360 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 10: that year from training camp. You have to extend him

1379
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 10: and waiting look at what the Bengals had to do.

1380
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 10: Waiting cost him what thirty dollars per together, like on

1381
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,880
Speaker 10: both those players. If you look at what a guy

1382
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 10: like Collins and Houston got at receiver compared to what

1383
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 10: those two got, it's insane. You running back is a

1384
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 10: dime a dozen in the Barkley situation is a one

1385
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:56,280
Speaker 10: to one situation. It's a total one of one situation.

1386
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 10: It's you can't even compare it to the rest of

1387
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 10: the running backs in the lead, just because the fact

1388
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 10: he came from the Giants they won the Super Bowl,

1389
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 10: the yardage, everything that goes into it, and to me,

1390
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 10: I'm sorry, Cook, he's replaceable. Great player. If you look

1391
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 10: at his statistics. The one thing that jumps out of

1392
01:11:13,520 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 10: the touchdowns. I know he broke a lot of long runs,

1393
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 10: he ran hard, didn't fumble. But you can replace that guy,

1394
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 10: and it's been proven time and time again. So you

1395
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 10: have to You have to extend Benford sooner rather than later,

1396
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 10: and unfortunately Cooked is the odd man out. Thanks for

1397
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 10: taking my call.

1398
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:29,000
Speaker 4: Thanks.

1399
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 3: I'll say this.

1400
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 2: My point isn't that you're gonna you're He's easy to replay.

1401
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 2: You're not going to replace sixteen touchdowns like with just

1402
01:11:37,520 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: another guy. My point is this, you can get a

1403
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,839
Speaker 2: lot of what James Cook gives you back in another

1404
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 2: player without getting exactly James Cook. You can get eighty

1405
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:55,200
Speaker 2: or ninety we'll choose a percentage. You can get a

1406
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 2: bunch of percentage of his of his one hundred percent

1407
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 2: back and only pay him five percent of what you're

1408
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 2: gonna have to pay James Cook to retain him more

1409
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:07,400
Speaker 2: extend him. That's my point. It's an economic question. You

1410
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,640
Speaker 2: may if you get the right guy, and we saw it.

1411
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 2: I've been hooting about this with Brownie for ever since

1412
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 2: the combine. I mean, you got twenty five guys out there,

1413
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 2: that are smoking fast, and they've all got a different

1414
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:22,880
Speaker 2: little set of skill sets. Some of them are gonna

1415
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 2: be good in the passing game, others you know, and whatever,

1416
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,439
Speaker 2: and some of them are gonna be injury prone. And

1417
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:31,680
Speaker 2: they're all got the whole rainbow of traits and attributes

1418
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 2: and production throughout that whole group of running backs. But

1419
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna be able to find a guy in that

1420
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,200
Speaker 2: to give you a big percentage of what James Cook

1421
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 2: was able to give you at a fraction of the cost.

1422
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,040
Speaker 2: And I'll that's the only point you can make about it,

1423
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 2: because James Cook is gonna leave a void if he's

1424
01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: not here.

1425
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 1: I won't debate that corner is harder to find frontline

1426
01:12:53,640 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: starters than running back. It is hard. They're not as

1427
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,880
Speaker 1: in as plentiful as supply. You have guys that could

1428
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: play there, but not guys that can play at a high, high,

1429
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 1: high level that you can count on every single week

1430
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: and aren't gonna give up big plays. I mean, every

1431
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,120
Speaker 1: cornerback gets beat in this league because the receiving talent's

1432
01:13:11,160 --> 01:13:16,960
Speaker 1: so good, but the caliber of Benford not easy to find. Yeah,

1433
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 1: and it's harder to replace. I will not debate that

1434
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,559
Speaker 1: for a second. And I'll even go against my own

1435
01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: argument here. Eleven of Cook's sixteen rushing touchdowns last year

1436
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,160
Speaker 1: came inside the ten yard line, so he had four

1437
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,320
Speaker 1: forty plus yard touchdowns. So maybe the guy you replace

1438
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: him with doesn't have those four forty plus yard touchdowns,

1439
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: but he probably has the eleven inside the ten yard line.

1440
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 2: I'll say this too, if you want to go that direction,

1441
01:13:43,880 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: that's the sixteen touchdowns that Cook ran for. That's at

1442
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 2: least ten of them, or ten runs that Josh didn't

1443
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: have to make, you know what I mean, Yeah, you're

1444
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:56,320
Speaker 2: not putting your quarterback. When Josh was young, he was

1445
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: the best short yardage running back in the league because

1446
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: he just did it himself. You remember the Thanksgiving play

1447
01:14:03,439 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: in Dallas when he fumbles the snap and gets whacked

1448
01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 2: like nine times and gets up for the first down.

1449
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:10,960
Speaker 2: You know, all that stuff. It's all fun to see,

1450
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 2: but you know he's getting that toll, he's getting his

1451
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 2: teeth kicked in.

1452
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:14,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1453
01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 2: Right, So James Cook, and you know you're running back.

1454
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,800
Speaker 2: That's what you're running backs for is to take some

1455
01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 2: of those physical runs inside the five away from a

1456
01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:24,880
Speaker 2: guy who you think can get him to, but you

1457
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: want him to be there in the fourth quarter and

1458
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 2: the late part of the season.

1459
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 3: I'll say this too.

1460
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 2: Last year they they made a fan had a fantastic

1461
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 2: offensive year. Unless to me, this is kind of on

1462
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 2: brownie side of it. I don't know, you want to

1463
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 2: take a good player off of what you do well

1464
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 2: or risk that to get yourself a better defensive tackle

1465
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 2: or another defensive tackle.

1466
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:56,679
Speaker 1: Well, you have ten picks.

1467
01:14:56,840 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm got a lot to work with you.

1468
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 2: You needed this offense to be every bit as good

1469
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 2: as it was this last year. You need they need.

1470
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,400
Speaker 2: They had to have that or this team was not

1471
01:15:07,880 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 2: going anywhere. You needed your offense to be explosive. You

1472
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 2: needed and you needed him to be balanced running passed.

1473
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 2: You need to put pressure on the defense because they

1474
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 2: needed to run the football this year, because they had

1475
01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:22,360
Speaker 2: to keep their defense off the field. I mean right,

1476
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,120
Speaker 2: let's be honest. You needed to control the game with

1477
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 2: one side of the ball, and they did in large measure.

1478
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,519
Speaker 2: They were good enough to do that and Lard and

1479
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 2: a big part of that was James Cook just being

1480
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 2: able to just hand it.

1481
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:37,479
Speaker 3: So you you.

1482
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,000
Speaker 2: Got don't You're not just gonna get Billy bagg of

1483
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 2: Donuts and hand him the ball and make this offense

1484
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 2: click like it did last year.

1485
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 3: You gotta have somebody really good.

1486
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,920
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it has to be James Cook good,

1487
01:15:49,439 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: but it's got to be a guy who can run it.

1488
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 2: He may not be able to catch it, but he

1489
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 2: can run it, you know what I mean. I mean

1490
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 2: there's I don't want to change that offensive recipe too

1491
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,800
Speaker 2: much and take too many risks because you needed it

1492
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: so badly.

1493
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 1: You don't have to this year, whether you're do an

1494
01:16:02,840 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 1: extension or not, but the year after you may have to, right,

1495
01:16:06,280 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 1: depending on what you decide financially for your team going forward.

1496
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: Got to take a break here, but more of your

1497
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: phone calls and we come back. We'll lead off with

1498
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,559
Speaker 1: Ryan and Toronto when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: presented by co Lout of Help. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live. Half hour

1501
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,799
Speaker 1: ago here on Wednesday edition, and talking about the urgency

1502
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: for extensions for Christian Benford, James Cook, two of the

1503
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:43,360
Speaker 1: members of the Young Corps that have not yet been extended.

1504
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: The money's getting a little tight. We heard Brandon Bean

1505
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,719
Speaker 1: last week, say, not going to be any big swings

1506
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: in free agency, and even less so now that money

1507
01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,080
Speaker 1: has been spent to a great degree, still creating some

1508
01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:59,680
Speaker 1: cap space as they did with the reported Milano contract adjustment.

1509
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: But you let us know this level of urgency scale

1510
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: of one to ten eight oh three five fifty won

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01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: eighty eight five fifty two five fifty to Ryan in Toronto. Next,

1512
01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: what's up? Brian Aircraft?

1513
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 11: Steve to be honest. If we asked me, I think

1514
01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 11: we'll give you way too much airtime for James discussions.

1515
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 11: Reason I say, this guy had one great season last season.

1516
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,559
Speaker 11: Two seasons last His first two seasons he was a nobody.

1517
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 11: He was dropping balls left end and center. He was

1518
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 11: a nobody. And then now he had really good season

1519
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,160
Speaker 11: last season because the offense was clicking. And the reason

1520
01:17:35,160 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 11: why he got out this touchdown also because the way

1521
01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 11: the deepend butt a lot of turnovers. That's one reason. Secondly,

1522
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 11: fifteen million dollars of whatever he's asking for is not

1523
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,160
Speaker 11: worth that we happening. We get that his money down

1524
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 11: the toilet pay. Brentford drafted the guy, maybe a couple

1525
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 11: of guys coming out of Ohio State draped one of them,

1526
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 11: like by Being had done in the past, like Mass Singletary.

1527
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 11: All these guys drapped and then take this. I think

1528
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 11: he's going to be a captain in the locker room.

1529
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,000
Speaker 11: I don't think he's gonna have the same season he

1530
01:18:04,080 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 11: had last year. He had was one Sproop seven.

1531
01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: He had ya, all right, Ryan, I think it's a

1532
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: I think it's a little strong to say he did

1533
01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:12,960
Speaker 1: nothing his first two years. I mean he went to

1534
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:16,040
Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl in twenty twenty three, he ran for

1535
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: eleven over eleven hundred yards, and I think he was

1536
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: top eight in the league in total yards from scrimmage.

1537
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 1: He didn't have the touchdowns in twenty three that he

1538
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 1: had last year, but he certainly had the production from

1539
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 1: a yardage perspective. I mean, you look at his total

1540
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 1: he had almost seventeen hundred yards from scrimmage.

1541
01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:36,000
Speaker 2: He had more carries in twenty twenty three than he

1542
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:38,599
Speaker 2: did in twenty twenty four. Yeah, he had two hundred

1543
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 2: and thirty seven carries two years ago.

1544
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,320
Speaker 3: So that's yeah, it's Kim his due.

1545
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 2: Uh, He's he's been the powerhouse behind the offense.

1546
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 6: Uh.

1547
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:54,400
Speaker 2: And this last year, even with less yards rushing, I

1548
01:18:54,439 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 2: think he was more productive and more.

1549
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 1: Explosive, certainly from a scoring perspective.

1550
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I get what you're saying, and it.

1551
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: Is a good running back class. He's not wrong about that.

1552
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 2: Right, but I'm not I'm not spending depends on how

1553
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: the first three picks go. If you pick three defense,

1554
01:19:13,479 --> 01:19:16,400
Speaker 2: if you get a corner or a safety and two

1555
01:19:16,439 --> 01:19:19,760
Speaker 2: defensive linemen, or if you get three defensive players that

1556
01:19:19,800 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 2: you really love, okay, then at one O nine, I'll

1557
01:19:23,240 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 2: let you take the running back. Yeah, right, But then

1558
01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 2: you don't have you don't have a wide out. You

1559
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: didn't get a white out in this class. So I yes,

1560
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:33,520
Speaker 2: I agree.

1561
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: And now you're probably carrying four backs on your roster.

1562
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,920
Speaker 1: Don't dismiss that you draft a running back.

1563
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 2: That's right.

1564
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,719
Speaker 1: You're not cutting Ray Davis, you're not cutting Ty Johnson,

1565
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,719
Speaker 1: you're not cutting James Cook. Now you've got four backs

1566
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: on your roster plus Reggie Gilliam. Yeah, so you're gonna

1567
01:19:52,120 --> 01:19:53,680
Speaker 1: have some roster decisions.

1568
01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:56,840
Speaker 2: To make too, see, but I'm I'll be interested to

1569
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 2: see what James cook attitude. James Cook's attitude is coming

1570
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 2: into this year because he is under contract. They are

1571
01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:07,080
Speaker 2: under no obligation to appease his new contract wish in

1572
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 2: any way, shape or form, And if I'm him, I

1573
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 2: kind of got a bet on myself that's what I

1574
01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:14,559
Speaker 2: would do.

1575
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 3: Now.

1576
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 2: It may be tough to do that at a running

1577
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:22,000
Speaker 2: back in the National Football League getting pounded on because

1578
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 2: injuries are a real risk and it may blow up

1579
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: in his face, but I think I think that's what

1580
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: you know that contractually, that's what you're obligated to do.

1581
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: That doesn't mean you have to do it. You do

1582
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,160
Speaker 2: have a recourse if you just want to hold out.

1583
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 2: But that'll be interesting to see what he does, because

1584
01:20:38,439 --> 01:20:40,040
Speaker 2: if he comes back and plays, the Bills are going

1585
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 2: to get the very best of him, the absolute very

1586
01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:43,760
Speaker 2: best of him, because he's gonna want to.

1587
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:45,439
Speaker 1: Well, he's playing for his next contract.

1588
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,599
Speaker 2: He's swinging for a second contract. And if he plays

1589
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 2: like that, and think about it, if everything goes in

1590
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,600
Speaker 2: your wildest dreams, they go to and win him that

1591
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: Now he's had a season like Saquon Barkley and he's

1592
01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 2: coming back as a free agent, that's exactly where he

1593
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: wants to be. Of this offense could get him to

1594
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 2: that point. I mean, think about it, he's playing with

1595
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,400
Speaker 2: an MVP. He's gonna look good in this offense.

1596
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:08,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1597
01:21:08,720 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 2: So if I'm him, Yeah, I play the deal. I

1598
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:16,280
Speaker 2: make five million bucks while I'm posturing for like you said,

1599
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:19,559
Speaker 2: fifteen million a year with somebody. I think that's the

1600
01:21:21,200 --> 01:21:22,680
Speaker 2: that's the way to play it. I don't know if

1601
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: it you know, there's always a risk.

1602
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 3: You don't know.

1603
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 2: Maybe it's something happens, but that's what you're playing. That's

1604
01:21:27,080 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 2: the that's the one fly in the ointment right there,

1605
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 2: right and it's and it's it could happen.

1606
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 1: Let's go to the tweet sheet, which we have yet

1607
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 1: to crack open here and see what you have to

1608
01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: say there. Brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems, the

1609
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 1: official equipment moving company at the Buffalo Bills level of

1610
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: urgency to extend Benford and Cook on a scale of

1611
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: one to ten, Mike says, I've got it at an

1612
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,919
Speaker 1: eight for Benford a five for Cook. While I understand

1613
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,759
Speaker 1: Cook is good, it's really hard to justify a huge

1614
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,840
Speaker 1: contract for a running back. And you know we had

1615
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: a caller earlier say, yeah, Barkley got a big contract,

1616
01:22:03,400 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 1: but he's one of one. He might be good.

1617
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 3: Point, he might be.

1618
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 1: And I don't think anybody here is saying pay Cook

1619
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:12,360
Speaker 1: twenty million a year like they did for Barkley on

1620
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: his two year extension.

1621
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:18,320
Speaker 2: But we're listen, people in our business are getting a

1622
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 2: ton of mileage, excuse me, out of Saquon Barkley leaving

1623
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 2: the Giants as a free agent and going to Philadelphia Eagles.

1624
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,120
Speaker 2: Everybody's up in arms about Saquon going to the Eagles

1625
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:31,200
Speaker 2: and winning a Super Bowl. And he's now he's making

1626
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars a year. Now, how would things have

1627
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 2: been different if he'd ha stayed in New York. New

1628
01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:37,320
Speaker 2: York paid him fifteen million bucks a year when they

1629
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 2: could have Now what's he doing. He's making fifteen bucks

1630
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 2: a year, fifteen million year and he's three and fourteen. Yeah,

1631
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,960
Speaker 2: he's the third picking a draft. He still doesn't have

1632
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,240
Speaker 2: a quarterback, and the Giants are stuck under his contract.

1633
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 3: And what do they do?

1634
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:52,839
Speaker 2: They win three more games and now they're picking ninth

1635
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 2: in the in the draft instead of third. I mean,

1636
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 2: now they got no shot at any one of those quarterbacks.

1637
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 2: I mean, you can, you can say what you want.

1638
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 2: The Giants did the right thing. Yeah, I mean as

1639
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 2: much as it hurts and as much as a good

1640
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 2: guy it is, and how and how it turned out.

1641
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,919
Speaker 1: It's like, oh damn watching your division, right, bah blah blah.

1642
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: They did the right thing, They did the right thing.

1643
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,160
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I like sau as much. And he jumped

1644
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:23,640
Speaker 2: over a guy backwards. Okay, he does that as a

1645
01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:25,799
Speaker 2: very impressive Yeah, he does that as a Giant.

1646
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: And he's the offensive player of the year, right, and

1647
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: he does that.

1648
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,560
Speaker 2: Would he been the right raining offensive player of the

1649
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 2: year with the Giants? No, absolutely not, categorically, no way.

1650
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 2: So I get it. He's a great story and he's

1651
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 2: and he and he cashed in on it, and the

1652
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: and the Eagles, you know, further drove the stake into

1653
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 2: the heart of the Giants by giving him the big

1654
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:52,160
Speaker 2: extension all that stuff. I'm sorry. The Giants did the

1655
01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 2: right thing. They did the right thing, and in this case,

1656
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:01,160
Speaker 2: Saquon benefited from it. He should love the Giants. He

1657
01:24:01,200 --> 01:24:03,640
Speaker 2: should love the Giants, not be rubbing their face in it.

1658
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,559
Speaker 1: Chris on the tweets sheet says ten for Benford because

1659
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: it is such a key position with the quarterbacks in

1660
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: the passing game in the league these days, four or

1661
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 1: five with Cook because Josh is the QB. I think

1662
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: he can get a quality running back, but I would

1663
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 1: like to have Cook. Yeah, I mean to me, you

1664
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: can easily make the argument that the cornerback position is

1665
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,839
Speaker 1: a thinner position for the Bills in terms of frontline

1666
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: talent that you can put out there as dependable starting talent.

1667
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:34,680
Speaker 1: Benford is on one side, you really don't have a

1668
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:37,599
Speaker 1: defined answer on the other side, and even the depth

1669
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,360
Speaker 1: behind him has been compromised by the trade of Kyrie Elam,

1670
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: not that you played him a ton anyway, but you're

1671
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: looking at JaMarcus Ingram and Dan Jackson, who you just

1672
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,840
Speaker 1: signed back after he was released by Carolina. So you

1673
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: need a frontline starter at corner which is probably coming

1674
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,479
Speaker 1: in the draft at this point unless something dramatic changes here,

1675
01:24:57,560 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 1: or you can find somebody that gets clipped by another

1676
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: team that's starting caliber that you can sign on the cheap.

1677
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: At this point, that's not the case at running back,

1678
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 1: where you have some depth.

1679
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, at this point it looks like I don't think

1680
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 2: it's gonna stay like this, But now, yeah, right, it

1681
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 2: looks like today you're gonna whether he like, whether he's

1682
01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:17,960
Speaker 2: good enough or not. You're gonna draft a starter. Yeah,

1683
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And that's not where you

1684
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 2: want to be.

1685
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 1: Sean on the tweets sheet says, it's a five for Benford,

1686
01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,080
Speaker 1: a two for Cook. Want Benford locked up, but they've

1687
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:29,559
Speaker 1: done a good job getting a few guys signed long term.

1688
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 1: We'll see how the draft works out there and can

1689
01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,920
Speaker 1: use the tag as a last resort next year. I

1690
01:25:34,040 --> 01:25:35,679
Speaker 1: like Cook and would like him to stay a bill,

1691
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: but don't want to go more than eight to ten

1692
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:40,920
Speaker 1: million a year. And his workload is kind of an

1693
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 1: indication of that. He doesn't have the same workload that

1694
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:49,680
Speaker 1: Derek Henry or a Saquon Barkley has. You know, they

1695
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: make sure to rotate Ty Johnson in is the third

1696
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 1: down back. Ray Davis gets work, and I would anticipate

1697
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: in his second year, Ray Davis is probably gonna get

1698
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 1: a little more of the work, you know, if he

1699
01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: can take used to develop and progress. And Ty Johnson

1700
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: kind of solidified himself as the third downback on this

1701
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 1: roster last year and he just signed a two year

1702
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: extension so or he re signed for two years, so

1703
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,480
Speaker 1: he's gonna be in the fold. They like him a lot,

1704
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: so I can't see Cook getting more of the workload

1705
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 1: going forward, and that complicates what an appropriate price would

1706
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: be on an extension as well in terms of average

1707
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 1: annual value.

1708
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,200
Speaker 2: And here's the thing too, it doesn't have to be

1709
01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,920
Speaker 2: a guy that is exactly a James Cook type. Say,

1710
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 2: for instance, you get you go down and just go

1711
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 2: down the list Miss Ashton Jiohnty from uh, well.

1712
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: He's gonna be from he's fifty.

1713
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a top fifteen pick. But you go

1714
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 2: down further and go to Caleb Johnson from I Like,

1715
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:44,519
Speaker 2: I say, Iowa, I think here's a guy six to one,

1716
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 2: two twenty four.

1717
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 3: You get a.

1718
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 2: Different type of back, right, If you get a big time, big, tall,

1719
01:26:55,720 --> 01:27:02,559
Speaker 2: heavy Derrick Henry type back and you change your offense

1720
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,719
Speaker 2: a little bit, it's something that all defenses are gonna

1721
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,680
Speaker 2: look at differently. Right, So if you you know you

1722
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:10,800
Speaker 2: can do go down that road if you want to.

1723
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,679
Speaker 2: You get a guy like Damian Martinez from Miami who's

1724
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:19,120
Speaker 2: six foot two seventeen and runs a four five forty

1725
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 2: and he's not a four to three guy, but he's

1726
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 2: a big, heavy dude that you.

1727
01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 3: Got to think differently about. If you're a defense.

1728
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:30,240
Speaker 2: So there's all kinds of ways you can go with

1729
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 2: that position, and it would look a lot different than

1730
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 2: it would with James Cook in there. But if you're

1731
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: gonna change the ingredients, the recipe is going to be different.

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Speaker 2: And that's that's all there is to it. So you

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Speaker 2: got to be ready to do that if you if

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Speaker 2: you need to.

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Speaker 1: Break time for us here, one final segment to go.

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Speaker 1: We'll get some final thoughts on the tweet sheet next

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Speaker 1: here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 12: Stay with us, all right.

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Speaker 1: Right back to some final thoughts on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 1: about the level of urgency on a scale of one

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Speaker 1: to ten. To extend Benford and or James Cook, Vesley

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Speaker 1: says both an eight point five. Good running backs and

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Speaker 1: corners don't grow on trees. Yes, yes, everyone thinks you

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Speaker 1: can find a running back. Ask Philadelphia and Detroit pay

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Speaker 1: Cook and Benford. I guess they meant they had to

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Speaker 1: go out and buy Barkley, and you saw Detroit buy

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Speaker 1: Montgomery and draft Gibbs in the top twelve. By the way,

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Speaker 1: Barkley and Gibbs the only two running backs faster according

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Speaker 1: to Next Gen Stats on the field than James Cook

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Speaker 1: last year.

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Speaker 2: If you can run the ball, you got a big

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Speaker 2: leg up on every opponent you face. The problem is

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Speaker 2: most teams can't run it well enough because defenses are

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Speaker 2: built to stop it.

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Speaker 1: First, Ethan says cornerback very high. Should have paid him

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Speaker 1: before Stingley got that deal done. Cook If he'll take

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Speaker 1: ten to twelve million a year, cool, Otherwise good luck.

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Speaker 1: After twenty twenty five, Sean says, separate for each eight

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Speaker 1: for Benford, six for Cook at the right price, not

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Speaker 1: fifteen mil. Barklay and McCaffrey are anomalies. He's nowhere near

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Speaker 1: their value to compare to based on percentage use stats,

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Speaker 1: and he isn't a three down back. Those are all

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Speaker 1: valid points, and that's why I think you could get

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Speaker 1: him for a little bit less.

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Speaker 2: You have to see and he'll I mean, yeah, he'll

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Speaker 2: be He'll know that, he'll know it, so we'll see.

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Speaker 4: Hey.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's a big birthday monitor here in

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Speaker 1: the office.

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Speaker 2: Here, Tom Hollander, our guy on graphics back in the back, Tom,

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Speaker 2: Happy birth have hit.

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Speaker 1: There you go, d graphics guru. Very nice, Happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to him. And we got plenty more to celebrate here

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Speaker 1: in the month of Mars before it's out. We are

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Speaker 1: largely a March birthday crew. It's crazy you're April. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get to you, and we get to you. We

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Speaker 1: got a lot of people ahead of you. I've had

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Speaker 1: plenty in line right now. That's it for us today.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for all the commentary, a lot of good takes

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Speaker 1: on these extension ideas. For Benford and Cook, we'll see

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow at one two