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Speaker 1: No buns. Go find that on the YouTube feed the

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Speaker 2: But look, they went nine to thirty two from three

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Speaker 3: And if you're gonna look back and at this series

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Speaker 2: Down to the rim though.

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Speaker 2: Tatum got to line throw. Yeah, he's marked took ten

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Speaker 2: he had wide open looks all night. This guy led

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Speaker 1: Yeah, anything else from this game, anyone else he wanted

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Speaker 3: Is that him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well anything else from this one?

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it was everybody's doing it now, like pulling

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Speaker 3: We love some of it in the playing Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So do you have any faith here in the Celtics

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah you do.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about to come back and win the series,

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Speaker 2: Game seven. The Celtics won two game seven's last year.

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Speaker 2: Like you're saying, they bounce back against the Bucks last season.

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Speaker 2: When the Celtics look beat, that's when they're they're most dangerous.

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Speaker 1: Probably will go like that.

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Speaker 3: It's possible, for sure.

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Speaker 1: I did love I'm trying to find it right now.

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Speaker 1: There's a great tweet from a Sixers fan, Andrew Unterberger,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Simmons said the same thing. It's interesting they

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Speaker 3: Everybody is sitting on their hands, and then the Sixers

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Speaker 2: That's it happened for the Celtics last year, right, didn't

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Speaker 1: I think went for forty eight?

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Speaker 2: I think that's right.

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Speaker 1: In game six, we'll see if they can replicate that. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Was it a closer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't want to gloss over the fact that,

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Speaker 1: I cannot think of many Tobias Harris games where he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, embiad hasn't had a quite a have a monster

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Speaker 3: sure he'll be there for James Harden. Yeah, they've got momentum,

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Speaker 1: And there is the whole thing, whether you believe in

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Speaker 1: that also went on to be lost. So yeah, it's like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think Sixers fans are like, ye are going

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Speaker 1: to the Conference finals, baby, you know we'll see you

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Speaker 1: way in Miami for Game one, right, Yeah, not at all,

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Speaker 1: and you can't blame them all. Right, Well, let's move

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Speaker 1: about maybe doing a Game six later this week, probably

435
00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,520
Speaker 1: with that one being the early start time, but the

436
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,600
Speaker 1: late game. Last night, the Nuggets beat the Suns one

437
00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 1: to eighteen one oh two in their Game five, pivotal

438
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,680
Speaker 1: Game five to regain their series lead. Trey, let's start

439
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: with you on this one really close. First, half and

440
00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,000
Speaker 1: then I screwed up everything, tweeting I think we're going

441
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: to get an instant classic here in the second half

442
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 1: of this game five and the Nuggets just blew them

443
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 1: out of the water in the third quarter, and we

444
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 1: even got garbage time.

445
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I got some garby garby time. I thought

446
00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,920
Speaker 2: it was going to play out similar to the game

447
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:22,000
Speaker 2: where we saw Jokic and Devin Booker going head to

448
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,680
Speaker 2: head in the third quarter. Jokic did his part. I

449
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 2: think he scored seventeen in the third. That was the

450
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 2: huge quarter for the Nuggets. But Devin Booker finally didn't

451
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,040
Speaker 2: have it for once and for all in this playoff series.

452
00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,520
Speaker 2: The only one I think one for eight or one

453
00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,760
Speaker 2: for nine in the third quarter, and that's when Denver

454
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 2: really took the lead. We've been talking a lot about

455
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,680
Speaker 2: Bookers and how well he's been playing so far, but

456
00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 2: it kind of obscured the fact that the that the

457
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:50,119
Speaker 2: Suns have needed eighty points combined from Devin Booker and

458
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,520
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant to get these wins, only fifty four combined

459
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Speaker 2: last night between Booker and Kadi. The role players didn't

460
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 2: play well for Phoenix either. Being back on the road,

461
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are able to win big. They looked a

462
00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 2: lot like the Game one Nuggets to me, a lot faster.

463
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 2: They were making a point to push the pace on

464
00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:11,720
Speaker 2: misses on makes. They were ball pressuring Devin Booker, throwing

465
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 2: him into some tough looks. They looked better shooting. They

466
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 2: got thirty one points in transition. They got thirty two

467
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: assists on forty two makes. Like this was just a

468
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: nice Denver Nuggets game. Getting good contributions from the compost

469
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Speaker 2: crew as well. Bruce Brown was incredible. Christian Brown was

470
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,240
Speaker 2: almost as good with his defense on Kevin Durant and

471
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: his dunks. Even Jeff Green made a couple of layoffs.

472
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 2: So really nice one for the Nuggets. I mean, Jokic,

473
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: he kind of dominated this game and it just felt

474
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: like he was cruising along. No big deal, so good win.

475
00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 2: It feels like in this series the Suns are gonna

476
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: squeak by and the Nuggets are gonna smash when they win.

477
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Speaker 3: It's true, the Jokic minutes were fun. You try and

478
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 3: defend him in a bunch of different ways. They fronted him,

479
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,920
Speaker 3: even Big eight and fronting him at times, and they're

480
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 3: just going over the top. They just found a way.

481
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 3: Durant looks small when he gets him in the post.

482
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,400
Speaker 3: It was dominant. It was a real classic home court win.

483
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 3: The way they're running out in the first quarter. They

484
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 3: had thirteen first quarter transition points. But great response in

485
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: the second quarter from the Suns. Yeah, they came back,

486
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 3: and they were obviously trying to keep Devin Booker slowed

487
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 3: down in transition. The guy was averaging ten fast break

488
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: points per game himself coming into this game, and the

489
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 3: Nuggets were trying to slow him down, and they did

490
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 3: in the third quarter. But he had a great first

491
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Speaker 3: half in nineteen points. He was feeling good. Durant unfortunately

492
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: he was slow to start, one of eight to start

493
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Speaker 3: and then the five turnovers in the end.

494
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Speaker 1: I thought he was I thought he was horrible. I

495
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Speaker 1: think he had the greatest twenty six eleven and seven

496
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Speaker 1: or sorry, the worst twenty six eleven and seven line

497
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Speaker 1: maybe of his career for sure, and of maybe of

498
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 1: any player. That's a good line, like that's an incredible line.

499
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Speaker 1: I thought he was bad. Yeah, I mean, look, he

500
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 1: looked gassed, no doubt. I mean, he's played a lot

501
00:22:58,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 1: of minutes here and.

502
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Speaker 3: He played all twenty four first half minutes right.

503
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Speaker 1: And they did a great job of obviously just trying

504
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: to get up into space as much as possible. He

505
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: was taking Duran shots that you know he can hit

506
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 1: in his sleep, and then some of them were bouncing out,

507
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 1: but like he was missing free throws, the turnovers. Watch

508
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: him in the second half, and that's third quarter, his

509
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: defensive effort. I throw in air quotes. He's standing around,

510
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: He's like, he's probably just tired. He is doing nothing.

511
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: He's doing nothing, and so I just thought it was

512
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: a brutal game.

513
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: It was weird because Nuggets are up fifteen first in

514
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 3: the first quarter. Son's come back. They've taken the lead

515
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 3: on a Terrence Ross three late in the second, So

516
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,239
Speaker 3: you go into half, you got to feel pretty good

517
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,480
Speaker 3: if you're the Suns. But then in that third quarter,

518
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 3: I thought it was a weird move from Monty Williams,

519
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 3: who wants a three point shooter instead of Josha Kogi

520
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 3: out there, who's struggling, they go with Landry Shammitt, and

521
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 3: that just woke up Jamal Murray. Jamal Murray did not

522
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: have a good sort did not have a good first half,

523
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 3: and Jamal Murray is that kind of guy. He's a

524
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 3: fake Canadian. He's not real. He likes to be sparked

525
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: by something on the floor that gets him going. And

526
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 3: he saw Shammon on the other side. He just win

527
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 3: at him and that woke him up big time, big time.

528
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if they try and start him

529
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: in game number six because they don't trust josh Kohe

530
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: they want somebody else who can shoot the ball. I

531
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 3: get it because they're such a top heavy team, but

532
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 3: I don't know. Murray likes going at Shammit. He likes it.

533
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 3: He likes going at that beard. So that really changed things.

534
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 3: And it was just a classic home court game where

535
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: you saw the Nuggets take care of all three games

536
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: so far at home, and they are even so confident

537
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 3: that they can go into the Phoenix Sun's huddle and

538
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: do a little I'm listening to your huddle type thing

539
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: as they did at the end of the third quarter

540
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 3: in a playoff game. This is their home court. They

541
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: can do what they want. Bruce Brown goes in there

542
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 3: and then Yokic follows in like they're just joking around.

543
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 3: We're up twenty, we can do whatever the hell we want,

544
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 3: and that leads to a little skirmish where Kevin Duran

545
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 3: gets called for a tech for pushing out Jokic. What

546
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,440
Speaker 3: else is he supposed to do?

547
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: It's a huddle.

548
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: I mean, just let him and there.

549
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: Money Williams said after the game he thinks it should

550
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,639
Speaker 1: be a rule that you can't do it.

551
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: That was a great question. It should be a written rule.

552
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 2: It's an unwritten rule don't sneak into the huddles, but

553
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: we need it legislated.

554
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: I would love to hear the halftime locker room speeches

555
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: from Michael Malone last night to his Nuggets compared to

556
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 1: let's say, Joe Mizzula with the Celtics. I'm going to

557
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: guess they were very, very different because they came out

558
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: the Nuggets in the second half pissed off, especially Jamal Murray,

559
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: who had suddenly like this fire in him, this intensity

560
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 1: is like you can knot guard me, shim't and was

561
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: like stepping to him, smirking at him. Gave away a

562
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: tech because of it. He didn't care. I think Malone

563
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: must have laid into this team like this is Game five,

564
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: We're at home, this could be the series. We should

565
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 1: be up way more. We played really well in the

566
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: first tilme until we couldn't hit a shot in the

567
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: scd cord. But we're rolling up three, right and if

568
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 1: Booker shoots that one from half court, you know, half

569
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,879
Speaker 1: a second earlier, it's a high game at half. I

570
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: think he must have laid into this team. And holy crap,

571
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: did Jamal Murray listen to that? And Yokich, who was

572
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: a monster in the third quarter, finished with twenty nine,

573
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: thirteen and twelve, his tenth career playoff triple double, broke

574
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: a tie with Wilt Chamberlain for the most by any

575
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: center in NBA history. He made ten of his final

576
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,760
Speaker 1: eleven shots. And this guy right now, Jokic is averaging

577
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: thirty one points per game, thirteen boards, nine and a

578
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 1: half assists in the playoffs, shooting fifty three percent from

579
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: the field and forty nine percent from three. This is

580
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: what he's doing in the playoffs right now as they

581
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: take the three to two series lead here in the

582
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: in the second round. But man, I mean again, I'm

583
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: just guessing. Maybe Malone said nothing something that tells me

584
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: he did because he lost his voice. I think he

585
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: laid into them, and holy man, they delivered in that

586
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: third quarter it was over.

587
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 3: Maybe he was angry that Jokic gave mattish Via the

588
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: ball pre game.

589
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. That was fun, fun little clip.

590
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: I think we have it actually, Yeah, the pregame clip

591
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: going around of.

592
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: Yoki finishing his warm up walks by matti ish Ba

593
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 2: tosses in the ball. Oh, we're having a line.

594
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: Gets rid of it right away.

595
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm not holding.

596
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 1: Don't want to keep that one.

597
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: You're not gonna get a photo of me holding this ball.

598
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 2: You think Shba regrets saying that Yoki shouldn't have been

599
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: suspended for this game.

600
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean lean into it, really if you're gonna.

601
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: Actually, what I meant to say was we don't want

602
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 2: the MVP out there with his triple doubles. Whoops?

603
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: Anything else from this one?

604
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 3: Interesting that he traveled there to to Denver to take

605
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 3: this one in. Has he been on the road for

606
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 3: the first two games?

607
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would assume so, new owner, you

608
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 1: want to miss this? Yeah, come on, this is why

609
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: he bought the team for billions of dollars to have

610
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: court side seats on the road or at home. I

611
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: don't know for sure, but I would I would think so. Yeah,

612
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: just good stuff here from the Nuggets to regain control

613
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: of this series. You went over a lot of the

614
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,479
Speaker 1: things that they sort of like fixed from their losses

615
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: in in Phoenix. The transition defense on Booker, especially at

616
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 1: least trying to find him early and pushing up on him.

617
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: Them scoring in transition and just easier at points and

618
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: hit in three is obviously helps any team. They hit

619
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: thirteen to twenty seven. And Bruce Brown again, he had

620
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: twenty five off the bench. You don't want to call

621
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: it a Bruce Brown game. I get that, that's fair.

622
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 1: I mean, he's in the rotation.

623
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 3: Bruce Brown.

624
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 1: Well, it was like the twenty five is amazing for him.

625
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: This guy does not scored twenty five points for like,

626
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it must be his, Like, I think it's

627
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: the second highest scoring game of the season. And some

628
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 1: of it came like what that third quarter Lake, third quarter,

629
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: fourth quarter Bridge where they like blew the game open.

630
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: But he was making an impact. And we just keep

631
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: talking about with the Nuggets tray, it's like if Michael

632
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: Porter Junior can hit shots, and then obviously a guy

633
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: like Bruce Brown or one of their guys on the

634
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: bench can contribute in the scoring department. You got Yolkic,

635
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: you got Murray, who's like, you know, a bit of

636
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: a wild card from time to time in terms of

637
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: like he's gonna go for thirty five or maybe struggle.

638
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: That can be enough when you run in everything through

639
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: your point to center there and Michael Porter Junior, I

640
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 1: don't you know he had nineteen points on five threes,

641
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of early.

642
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: Threes, which I thought was big. Kind of put the

643
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: Suns in a tough predicament. But yeah, the role players

644
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: play better at home, and that has been the case

645
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 2: for both teams so far in this series. They say

646
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 2: a series doesn't start until a road team wins a game,

647
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 2: So still waiting. Pretty good series so far for it

648
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: not starting, Yes, entertaining all right, So fun.

649
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: Games last night, big big wins there from the Sixers

650
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Speaker 1: and the Nuggets to take the three to two series lead.

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Speaker 1: We will to take our first break and when we

652
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Speaker 1: come back, we got all defensive teams to talk about,

653
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Speaker 1: and then we'll look ahead to tonight's other two series

654
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: that could end in five. Don't go anywhere, all right?

655
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: Still here in the classic Factory. Uh oh, there's a

656
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: fruit fly hovering around. It showed up at the start

657
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 1: of the second block yesterday too. It loves the awards

658
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: because Defensive Player of the Year Jaron Jackson Junior headlined

659
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Speaker 1: the NBA's All Defensive First Team, which was announced on

660
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: on Tuesday afternoon. Triple J joined on the first team

661
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: by two other finalists for that top defensive honor. We

662
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: had Buck center Brook Lopez and Caps power forward Evan Mobley,

663
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 1: along with guards Drew Holiday and Alex Caruso. The Bulls

664
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Speaker 1: are back in the first team All Defense. Five players

665
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: name to the first team made it pretty easily. They

666
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: landed on at least seventy five of the one hundred ballots.

667
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Speaker 1: You see the second team here got Jackson's teammate for

668
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: how long, Dylan Brooks. He was one of five players

669
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Speaker 1: named to the All Defensive second team, joined by Raptors

670
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: forward Ogianna Nobi, Warriors forward Draymond Green. What's this like

671
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: his eighth selection? Something like that, Heat center bam Adebayo

672
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 1: and Celtics guard Derek White. And we got the voting

673
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Speaker 1: breakdown here, at least for the first two teams. A

674
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Speaker 1: lot of other guys tasks getting some votes because there's

675
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Speaker 1: a lot of great defenders in this league. But was

676
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: there a snub to you?

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Speaker 3: Is there a name that you were like old d snub?

678
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

679
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Are you like? Hold on, where's so and so?

680
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: In the he Jaden McDaniels is surprising to me of

681
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 3: the Wolves fantastic defender. I think you always got to

682
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: mention somebody, who are you gonna take off? I'm not

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 3: even gonna do that. I would probably take off Delon Brooks. Okay,

684
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: I'll do it. I think Jane McDaniels was is phenomenal.

685
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: So that's the one. I wouldn't worry Wolves fans. He'll

686
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: make it next year. It always happens with this award.

687
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: You have to like Og. We did this forever with Og. Oh,

688
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: how's Og not on one of these teams? How's Og

689
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: not on one of these teams? And I say it enough?

690
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: And then he gets like the credit that he gets

691
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: on one of these teams. I will guarant I will,

692
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,480
Speaker 1: I will guarantee it now, Jane McDaniels will be on

693
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 1: an all defensive team next year, calling my shot. But

694
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: it does happen with this award. You're really like you

695
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: like you need like the swelling of support for a

696
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: year where maybe you don't make the cut and then

697
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: it sort of translates, I feel like, into the next year.

698
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: But for sure, Yeah, did you have a snub?

699
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually think there's a lot of snubs. No, Yannis,

700
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: so I think is a surprising one. He got more

701
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 2: total votes and more points than Bam out of bio.

702
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 2: But brook Lopez is the center for the Bucks, so

703
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 2: Bam makes it as the second center and Giannis doesn't

704
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: make it because ogna, No, we got talked about last year. Weird,

705
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: that's a weird one to me. No, Anthony Davis, I

706
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: think is a big snub because we're seeing him in

707
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs right now and he's clearly the best defensive

708
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: player in the league, but he missed a huge chunk

709
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: of time during the regular season. This is a regular

710
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: season award. Also weird that Marcus Smart won Defensive Player

711
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: of the Year last year not making the team. He

712
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: wasn't as good defensively this year. Derek White definitely was

713
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: better than him. But yeah, certainly some snubs. You can

714
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Speaker 2: make a whole third team of all defensive players.

715
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Speaker 1: Twelve different guards received first place votes out of the

716
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: hundred ballots. Casts Some of them were a little perplexing.

717
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: I will admit some of the names that got a

718
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: vote here or there, but for the most part, the

719
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: ten guys they named, and then some of them just

720
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Speaker 1: not making it. You went through them, McDaniels, Giannis, a

721
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: d I mean they're right there on the list. Are

722
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: they getting rid of positions for this moving forward? Or

723
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: did I make that up in my head last night?

724
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Going around where it's like it's gonna

725
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: be really weird when the first team is just five centers.

726
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: I mean, we're going that way right right with brook Lopez,

727
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: Jared Jackson Junior borderline center, and Evan Mobley borderline center.

728
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 3: But it shows how important those guys are in today's

729
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: NBA defending that rem Also, yeah, Yannis had more votes

730
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 3: than Dylan Brooks too, but he plays plays a different

731
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Speaker 3: position or whatever.

732
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks made it as a guard, I think, right, yeah,

733
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Speaker 2: it's not a guard. Yeah, they start two guards.

734
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Speaker 1: Desmond Bain got a vote as a forward, so explain

735
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Speaker 1: that one to me.

736
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Speaker 2: Interesting.

737
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Speaker 1: There's some weird ones, I guess. Mc caile. Bridges is

738
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Speaker 1: another name that I always consider as a really elite

739
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: defensive wing player. And he's gotten some accolades before. Maybe

740
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: the whole switch up there being traded chances, I don't know,

741
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:11,959
Speaker 1: there's a lot.

742
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: Of great Claxton is a guy that got a lot

743
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 2: of early defensive players in the year buzz and then

744
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant was traded to the Suns and nobody talked

745
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 2: about Nick Claxton anymore.

746
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Speaker 1: Right, it happens, Yep, that's he's got a great defensive here,

747
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: No doubt Claxton. A lot of those bigs did, like

748
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Triple J Brooke, Claxon, Embeid. I mean, he obviously deserves

749
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: some mention here when you're talking about defenders. But let's

750
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Speaker 1: hear from you guys, biggest snub, surprise, whatever you want

751
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 1: to call it. When it came to the all defensive

752
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: teams announced yesterday, did we ever find out if the

753
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: Rooks get anything? Did we follow up with anybody? Do

754
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: the defensive guys get a plaque, a medal, maybe a

755
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,719
Speaker 1: sheet of paper that's a great certificate, like a certificate

756
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: at school, a sticker.

757
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 2: Way to defend all defense team?

758
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: All right, tonight's game five, let's talk about them. Heat

759
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 1: Knicks is the first game seven thirty on TNT. The

760
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: Heat looked to secure a series win over the Knicks

761
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: in Madison Square Garden. A lot of doom and gloom

762
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: right now. Task with Knicks fans. There's some out there

763
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: trying to stay positive, but there are a lot going.

764
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the off season. You know who we

765
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:29,200
Speaker 1: trade in? What are we doing? What does New York

766
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: have to do here to at least give us a

767
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: game six in Miami? Or do you think this one's

768
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: a rap?

769
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 3: It sure feels like the Knicks are getting Calves. Whatever

770
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 3: happened to the Calves in the first round where they

771
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: weren't taking the right shots and they weren't rebounding the

772
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 3: way that they should is happening to the Knicks. They

773
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 3: need better shot selection, they need to move that rock

774
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: a little bit more, and yeah, they need to rebound.

775
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 3: But at the same time, they started really well in

776
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 3: Game four there, and now they're down three to one

777
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: because they didn't want to rebound and because they got

778
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: away from that good shot selection. They started off ten

779
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 3: to fifteen. Things were looking pretty good offensively, but because

780
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: they gave the ball away and just weren't ready to

781
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,319
Speaker 3: do the little things like rebound, they lost this game,

782
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 3: So I say bad shot selection, but at the same time,

783
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: just don't turn the thing over. Because as much as

784
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: people want to pile on Julius Randall, he was scoring everybody.

785
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,800
Speaker 3: They're big three in Barrett, him and Brunson were scoring

786
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 3: pretty well. So just don't do the dumb things, and

787
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,399
Speaker 3: the Heat take advantage of that. They took advantage gave

788
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: Vincent just working his ass off to pull a Jose

789
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: Alvarado in the back court and thirty feet away from

790
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: the rim. Another steal early again when the Knicks needed

791
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 3: to get some momentum. So if they get that momentum again,

792
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 3: they can definitely win at home. But just don't do

793
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 3: the dumb things. Quinton Grimes, don't try and dunk on

794
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: Jimmy Butler when you got a drop off. That's right there,

795
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 3: So don't go. Don't go try and win it all

796
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: in one possession, but also try and win it all

797
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,840
Speaker 3: in one possession. You know, rebound, rebound that.

798
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 2: Thing in every possession. There you go, that's good because

799
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 2: the Heat aren't going to beat themselves. That's the thing

800
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: to me, Like they'll have a poor shooting night, but

801
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: they're giving effort everywhere else. They're defending, their trying things,

802
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: switching from man to zone, double teams, all this kind

803
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: of stuff. You know, the Heat are going to play

804
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 2: a game that can win a playoff game. The Knicks

805
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: just have to do the same thing. They need everything

806
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 2: to go right. They need a good Julius Randall game.

807
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,120
Speaker 2: They need to clutch Jalen Brunson game, and they got

808
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: to hit some threes. I was watching UH game three,

809
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: I suppose over at Grisham's house. There was a Knicks

810
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 2: fan in attendance, and he was asking for Evan Fournier

811
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: to play. Oh boy, that's how bad it's gotten for

812
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: Knicks fans. They're like, we need somebody to make some

813
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: three pointers. Fournier is still a Nick. I looked it up.

814
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: He hasn't basically played since February. He got a little

815
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: time at the end of the season when it was

816
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: tank time and they'd already secured their seed. But if

817
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: you're asking for Evan fourty, things are dire. Yeah, things

818
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: are dire in New York right now.

819
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 1: The Knicks specifically, in my opinion, need two things here tonight.

820
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: They need and you're gonna be able to tell within

821
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: the first three minutes. He usually can with this guy.

822
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: They need the massive Mitchell Robinson game to like go

823
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,360
Speaker 1: to work on the boards here, clean up everything inside

824
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: there and at least neutralized BAM and if not, obviously

825
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: give us more opportunities on the offensive end. He needs

826
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: to do that. The other thing is they desperately need

827
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: the Julius Randall game where he suddenly hits five or

828
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: six three pointers. I'm not sure he's got it, but

829
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 1: they need it because they do not right now have

830
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: enough quality shooters that are making a difference in the series.

831
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: I think Brunson's been pretty excellent. Barrett attacks and as

832
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: you know, at times he like he has great moments

833
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: and he sort of disappears. But they need the huge

834
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,399
Speaker 1: Julius Randall game because a big difference make or two

835
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: in this series has been Miami's depth. That second unit

836
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 1: has been sort of dominating here, Like these guys are

837
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: all contributing in Lowry and mart and obviously you know,

838
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,120
Speaker 1: just like it goes sort of down the roster here.

839
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 1: These guys that come in, you know, Duncan Robson hitting

840
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: threes and stuff like that. So I'm not sure that

841
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: that you're gonna get that really from the Knicks, you know,

842
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: especially with the quickly injury and all of that. Who

843
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: is playing tonight? Doubtful out he didn't. He's in a

844
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 1: boot last game. Yeah, I don't think he's a go tonight.

845
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: But Randall, you need to hit those threes tonight at

846
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: least see if you got it in your early you're

847
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: a streaky shooter. We'll see if Madison Square Garden can

848
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: rally the Knicks to a to a game five victory

849
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: here or do the heat smell blood? And this could

850
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 1: be you know, a scary Jimmy game too. There's always

851
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: that lurking Jimmy, oh God, shushing the MSG crowd or

852
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: something like that, sending him a home waving. I mean,

853
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: you can picture it.

854
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 3: He didn't play the last.

855
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: Game in MSG, right, he didn't play game two.

856
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: Game two. That was the one where he was like

857
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: walking home yet right, right right, I'll see you soon,

858
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: see you soon, all right, we'll see the second game tonight.

859
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: Lakers wore ten o'clock on TNT. Is this the end

860
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: of the Warriors dynasty?

861
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: Is this the end?

862
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,480
Speaker 1: Or what does Steve Kerr even do here? He is

863
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: he switched things up and guys starting and Looney not

864
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: playing and all this. What do you think do you

865
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 1: have any read on a game five here in the Bay?

866
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm just excited. I can't wait. Like this to me

867
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 2: seems like the premier game of the playoffs so far,

868
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,439
Speaker 2: because we got Lebron coming into a closeout game knowing

869
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 2: that if they win this one, they get a little

870
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: bit more rest for the conference finals, which would be

871
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 2: huge for LA. It's also a home game against the

872
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 2: end of the dynasty. Conditions are perfect for an absolute

873
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: classic here. I think it's gonna be a Steph Curry

874
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 2: cooking kind of game, because when the cards are down

875
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,320
Speaker 2: for the Warriors, that's when they finally decide we're going heliocentric.

876
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: We don't want to do it. Strength and numbers is

877
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: the way that the Warriors would rather play. But when

878
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 2: it comes down to it, Steph Curry is happy to

879
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 2: go for fifty points in a Game seven like he

880
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: did against Sacramento and just shoot more than he has

881
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,400
Speaker 2: the entire year. I assume it'll be very similar tonight.

882
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,240
Speaker 2: So if this is the end of the Warriors dynasty,

883
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: I expect them to go out swinging. At the very least.

884
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I expect role players to play better. It was

885
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 3: a super close game the other night. It wasn't. It

886
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: wasn't a blow up by any means. Came down to

887
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 3: the wire. They just struggled at the end of the game.

888
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: So I expect their depth to be a little bit better.

889
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,240
Speaker 3: Their lineup change of putting Gary Pate in the second worked.

890
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:28,320
Speaker 3: He was really good, and so I imagine they stick

891
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: with that bored a little bit better and probably go

892
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 3: back to Gary Payton the second more. He only played

893
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 3: twenty three minutes but was awesome fifteen points plus three

894
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 3: in his minutes, So I think they found something. And

895
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 3: you know, they've got performances out of a bunch of guys,

896
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: so it's not It's not dire by any means.

897
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: At home anyway, the fun chess match in this series

898
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 1: has been the Warriors. Hey, Steph Curry picknroll, get eighty

899
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: into the action. But then Ham's counter was like moving

900
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 1: ad off guy, especially dreamon Green, who wants to always

901
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: set that pick for Steph Curry. So he's on somebody else.

902
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: But I wonder if tonight, specifically, like you said, desperate,

903
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: wherever a d is, that's the guy that's coming in

904
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: pick and roll action with Steph Curry to get him

905
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 1: out on the perimeter to then force you know, the

906
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: defense to stretch a little bit and then have maybe

907
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: Clay hit some threes. Maybe it is Pool a broken

908
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: man or does he have a game in him here

909
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 1: he'll get I would imagine Kerr gives him an opportunity

910
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: in this one. It won't be a long leash, but

911
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: you know he can catch fire this guy. But maybe

912
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: his confidence is just completely shaken right now. I'm not sure,

913
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: but I would look to see how aggressive Kerr Curry

914
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,399
Speaker 1: is in putting a d in any sort of action,

915
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: all action. Because Ham did an awesome job, Like, all right,

916
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: we'll just move him off of Draymond Green. You want

917
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: Draymond Green to always have the pick and roll. You

918
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: don't want Wiggins as much. You don't want some of

919
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: these other guys out there, but I think they should

920
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: just seek him out.

921
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can run a pick and roll with Wiggins.

922
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: He's not a playmaker like Draymond is. In a four

923
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 2: on three. He missed a lot of open threes in

924
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,240
Speaker 2: Game four, but he had three twenty point games against Sacramento,

925
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: hasn't had one yet against la If it's pick and

926
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 2: roll mode for the Warriors. Wiggins is gonna have some looks,

927
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 2: so he's got to knock him down.

928
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: Look, both the Knicks and the Warriors are in a

929
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: tough spot here. I think it's ninety five percent of

930
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: teams that are down three to one go on to

931
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 1: lose that series. Right, So they're in the driver's seat,

932
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: the Heat and the Lakers are. But which series is

933
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,320
Speaker 1: more likely to end tonight in your opinion, because we

934
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: do have the game fives at least at home for

935
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: New York and Golden State.

936
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: That's the thing going for New York. They're at home,

937
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 3: But that one's the one that feels way worse. Again,

938
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: the Knicks shot really well last game and they still lost.

939
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: That was their problem. They shot decent from three, decent

940
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: enough to win. They match the Heat scoring wise, they

941
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,360
Speaker 3: just couldn't do the shooting wise, I should say, and

942
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 3: then they lost because they're not fighting there. The life

943
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: for that team feels far far worse, worse off than the.

944
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,400
Speaker 1: Warriors, would you agree, Tray more likely to end?

945
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Definitely the Knicks, I mean the Heat. The only game

946
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 2: they've lost. Jimmy Butler didn't play, and I think it

947
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: kind of goes that way. I think we're more likely

948
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 2: to see a classic Jimmy Butler Madison Square Garden moment

949
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: than the Knicks actually pull out the win. So there

950
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: that one's over.

951
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: I do think today all right, you tell us out

952
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: there watching right now live on YouTube listening to the

953
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: podcast later tweet at us at no dunk, think which

954
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,240
Speaker 1: series more likely to end heat Nicks or the Lakers Warriors.

955
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: We gotta take one more break. It's a quick one

956
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: when we come back. Very funny, tweeted the night. All right,

957
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: let's get to tweet of the night.

958
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,919
Speaker 3: Tweet O the night.

959
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 2: Wow. This might be controversial, but the tweet of the night,

960
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: it comes from me, from myself. Trey Kirby tweeted last night,

961
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 2: I asked AI to create an image of Kevin Garnett

962
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 2: playing Djenga, and wow, look at the results on this.

963
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: This is crazy. I love the responses. This is exactly

964
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: how I pictured it. You can tell it's AI because

965
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: of the hoodie. AI can do hands. Now we're doomed.

966
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a real Yeah.

967
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: This is a real show that existed Area twenty one.

968
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: We didn't know it at the time, but it basically

969
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: was a real life AI script you just type in

970
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: a prompt and it actually made it to TNT. Kevin

971
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 2: Garnett meets backpack kid. Oh yeah, Kevin Garnett plays Jenga.

972
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Garnett watches contortionists dancing. It all happened, and he

973
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: always did it with his hoodie halfway on his head.

974
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: He sure did.

975
00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: There were like entire blog posts written about how Kevin

976
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: Garnett was able to keep a hoodie on only half

977
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 2: of his head. Incredible stuff and incredible times. But for me,

978
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: this is really how I do use AI. I know

979
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: someday it'll probably take over our lives and maybe turn

980
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: on us, But right now, I just put a celebrity

981
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 2: in and have them do something weird like Vin deceently

982
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 2: and a tuna sandwich, tom cruise carrying groceries. What would

983
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: it look like right?

984
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: But a lot of the times right now it's like

985
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: there's like a mangled finger. There's always like this here

986
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: and distorted. Yeah, they really, they really knocked it out

987
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: of the park on this one with Kevin Garnett. Can

988
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: you imagine that guy playing janga?

989
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 2: That's exactly what it would look like.

990
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: So who are you in that photo which which Kevin

991
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 1: Garnett are you when?

992
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: Which are the four mouth open, pulling, mouth, pushing the

993
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:54,320
Speaker 2: mouth tongue is it gonna fall? Or intense face eyeballing

994
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 2: my next move? I think I'm the ooh mouth number two. Personally,

995
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: that one's my favorite. Uh the only one where you

996
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 2: can see his ear fan task who are you?

997
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: And you play?

998
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 3: What a good segment. I cannot go wait to wait

999
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 3: and watch this segment on YouTube. It's in full I imagine,

1000
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 3: we don't know. I hope so that it exists out

1001
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 3: there because this was this was I'm sure it's a

1002
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: great segment. I'm number four. Kevin Garnett's just that's a

1003
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 3: good one.

1004
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 2: That's a good one.

1005
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna happen.

1006
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,800
Speaker 3: What is going to happen is that that's what that

1007
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 3: face is saying.

1008
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: My favorite part about number four. He's giving like the

1009
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: to this Jenga set up three blocks. It appears have

1010
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 1: been pulled like it's like not that crazy a game

1011
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 1: yet to me to be like like that thing's far

1012
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: from toppling my gut says, I know we can't see

1013
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,200
Speaker 1: the bottom.

1014
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: Of it, but uh, I don't know. It looks a

1015
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 3: little wobbly.

1016
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: I don't know anyway. Did we ever find out how

1017
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: he kept the hood up? Was it just perspiration?

1018
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 3: I thought he credited stubbled.

1019
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:02,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I was barely being grown back. It's

1020
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 2: like a makeshift velcro on his head kind of.

1021
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: Because it is a very light hoodie.

1022
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and they bray.

1023
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were always like that. I feel like that

1024
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: light hoodie.

1025
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, variation, yeah, summer hoodie. All right, there is a

1026
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 2: There is a full segment. It looks to be on Facebook.

1027
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 2: He's playing against Kendrick Perkins in Jacob.

1028
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: I'm just watching over your shoulder as he gently touches

1029
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: that low block. He's going back to it like a

1030
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 3: thousand times before pulling. I mean, they're into it.

1031
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 2: They are so into it.

1032
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: I believe is into whatever to.

1033
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 3: The cameras on at all times.

1034
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 2: I got a feeling that h Perk's gonna win this one.

1035
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: Okay. I have a little trivia here before we say

1036
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: goodbye on today's podcast again. Yo, kitch his tenth career

1037
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: playoff triple double. This is from you Know Where Statitudes.

1038
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: He's the second fastest player to get to ten triple

1039
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: doubles in the playoffs. He it took fifty eight games

1040
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,879
Speaker 1: to get there. Do you know who's done it faster?

1041
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,760
Speaker 1: And then maybe some of the other ones behind Jokic

1042
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: on the list ten triple doubles in the playoffs fewest

1043
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: amount of games. Who did it faster than Yo Kic?

1044
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 2: Rondo?

1045
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: Rondo is took ninety two games, so he's fourth.

1046
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 3: Oscar Robertson, He's not on this.

1047
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: Magic Johnson, Magic Johnson is the answer. Twenty six games.

1048
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: That's it, wow, Magic Wow. And then the other names

1049
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,280
Speaker 1: are fun. A lot of some of them current players.

1050
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: A couple of them have been coaching Lebron Lebron is

1051
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: there one hundred and thirty two games. Some of been coaches, Yeah,

1052
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 1: coaches getting a triple double like Jason Kidd. Jason Kidd

1053
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: ninety one, just beat Rondo. There's one more, two more

1054
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: current players you guys haven't named, and then one one

1055
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: legend in Westbrook keyword legend, Larry Bird one hundred and

1056
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: fifty one Westbrook, ninety eight games, final one. Did it

1057
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: faster than Lebron?

1058
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 2: Faster than Lebron? Luca No, it probably is.

1059
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 1: No, No, he played that many. This guy took one

1060
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty three games. So it's a you know,

1061
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: a decent chunk.

1062
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,439
Speaker 2: Got played a lot of playoff games one hundred and twenty.

1063
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 1: He's playing right now, Raymond Green, Ding Ding Ding, Nice, Magic, Yokich,

1064
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: Kid Rondo, Westbrook Green, Lebron.

1065
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 3: Larry Bird.

1066
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: That's pretty good, all right, talk to Little djenga kg

1067
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 1: Perk and then a little trivia at the end.

1068
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:26,799
Speaker 3: We'll call it there.

1069
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: Enjoy the games. Tonight we'll find out whether they both

1070
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: wrap up in Madison Square Garden in San Francisco, and

1071
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll be back to talk about them tomorrow at ten

1072
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 1: am Eastern. So join us live here from the Classic Factory.

1073
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 1: Also tomorrow, we'll have a new note Buffs in the

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00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: afternoon Survivors on tonight as well. Busy Busy night on

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Speaker 1: your television. Thanks for joining us here. Hit the like button, subscribe,

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Speaker 1: you're a podcast listener, tell Dan Clipper Bros.

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Speaker 3: You heard it here first.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us. And we're officially at sixty nine thousand.

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Speaker 3: We're at sixty eight eight thousand. I was gonna lie,

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Speaker 3: but forget it because the number is pretty good. Sixty

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Speaker 3: eight thousand, nine hundred and sixty nine.

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Speaker 1: That's sort of nice. Nice, yeah, tiny, nice lowercase nice

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Speaker 1: brace to day people