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Speaker 1: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. We got a

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Speaker 1: whale of a program headed your direction today hopefully be fun, entertaining,

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Speaker 1: and enlightening all rolled together. Mike Baker, he is a

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Speaker 1: counter intel expert.

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Speaker 2: Buck.

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Speaker 1: You know, Mike, I believe basically going to tell us

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Speaker 1: how Israel managed to blow up pagers and now walkie

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Speaker 1: talkies of Hesbola in a story that continues to grow.

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Speaker 1: That should be an interesting conversation, I believe with him,

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Speaker 1: we got our buddy, Senator Ron Johnson. We have not

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Speaker 1: I don't think had him on Bucks since we were

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Speaker 1: with him at the RNC in August. We will talk

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Speaker 1: with him about the latest news out there, including the

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Speaker 1: battleground state of Wisconsin. And then at two thirty Ned

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Speaker 1: Ryan set to join us. I mentioned the blown up

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Speaker 1: walkie talkies, that story following the blown up pager yesterday

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Speaker 1: of Hezbola as Israel steps up its counter terrorism efforts.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to dive into with all of you,

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Speaker 1: but I wanted to start with a couple of interesting

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Speaker 1: data points that came down this morning in the gallop Pole.

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Speaker 1: There was a big move in likability since August when

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Speaker 1: it comes to Kamala Harris and to Donald Trump. Also,

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Speaker 1: we've got a new poll out from Atlanta showing in

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Journal Constitution Trump with a three point lead

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Speaker 1: in Georgia. Let's talk about these in reverse for a

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Speaker 1: sec buck Trump up forty four to forty one, margin

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Speaker 1: of air three points in the Atlanta Journal Constitution.

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Speaker 3: Pole.

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Speaker 1: That's down from a five point lead over Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: but still an absolutely massive deal. If Trump flips Georgia

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Speaker 1: back into the Red team camp. Why does that matter? Well,

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Speaker 1: because if Trump wins Georgia and he wins North Carolina,

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Speaker 1: then all he would need to do is win Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: and he as president. This also would reflect that Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris's surge has really kind of run into a wall

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Speaker 1: here because Georgia has a large black population, and the

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Speaker 1: idea was, oh, Kamala will be able to get more

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Speaker 1: of those voters than Joe Biden would be able to.

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Speaker 1: That would seem not to be the case. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is the Atlanta Journal Constitution and the University of Georgia.

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Speaker 1: Pol I misspoke, Trump up forty seven to forty one. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: forty seven to forty four margin of air three point one.

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Speaker 1: In this poll, Biden was down five in June, but

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Speaker 1: this would suggest that the staying power for Trump in

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Speaker 1: Georgia is significant and that he's on track to flip

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Speaker 1: Georgia back to the Red team.

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Speaker 4: I just want to say, Clay, the numbers absolutely line

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Speaker 4: up with what we've been saying is going to happen,

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Speaker 4: particularly over the last month, which is with greater Kamala

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Speaker 4: familiarity comes greater Kamala campaign weakness the entire game. I'm

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Speaker 4: telling you, the only way the people who really know

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Speaker 4: what's happening with this election, who are pulling the strings

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Speaker 4: the Democrat Party, the only reason they really thought that

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris was a better shot for them than Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden was because of the truncated campaign, because it was

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Speaker 4: a shortened schedule, if you will, I think they all

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Speaker 4: recognize that if Kamala had to run over the course.

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Speaker 4: First of all, she had to run a primary, okay,

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Speaker 4: because she would have had to reiterate a lot of

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Speaker 4: those crazy positions in that primary. And then if she

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Speaker 4: there would have been no way because there's no COVID,

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Speaker 4: no way to run the hide Kamala campaign. But they figured, well,

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Speaker 4: if we only have to do this for a couple

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Speaker 4: of months, the media will run cover for us. They'll

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Speaker 4: be that Kamala bump in favorability from the newness of

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Speaker 4: it and the not dementia pation of it. But what

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Speaker 4: her to be in a position where right now things

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Speaker 4: losing this race. That does not mean she has lost,

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Speaker 4: but she is losing this race. And I think now

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Speaker 4: there's this challenge of Clay. What would you normally do

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Speaker 4: when someone's behind You would try to have them get

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Speaker 4: all the usual stuff. But they can't do that, right,

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Speaker 4: So yeah, what do they do to try to turn

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's where basically we are stationary. I was

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Speaker 1: talking with a couple of buddies this morning and one

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Speaker 1: And some of you may say, Okay, well, why does

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Speaker 1: that matter. NFL ratings usually go down during the fall

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Speaker 1: of an election season. That's sort of a tried and

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Speaker 1: true aspect. What could be happening here. The theory is

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Speaker 1: that a lot of people have made up their minds

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Speaker 1: So this is worth putting a pin in and thinking

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Speaker 1: about as we're under fifty days from the election, and

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Speaker 1: as some of you are going to be starting to

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Speaker 1: get your ballot soon Gallop poll. This is the other

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Speaker 1: one I wanted to hit. What's the lesson of Kamala's

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Speaker 1: political career on the national level. The more time people

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Speaker 1: spend with her, the less they like her. Buck I

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Speaker 1: got an analogy for you. I'm curious if you would

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Speaker 1: buy in if you're thinking about the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 1: election as a company, A lot of you work out

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Speaker 1: at businesses. Trump would be the founder CEO who is

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Speaker 1: outlandish at times, says ridiculous things. Many of you brash

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Speaker 1: lot of you have worked at companies like that or

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Speaker 1: you're familiar with it. Kamalo would be the VP of Diversity,

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Speaker 1: Equity and Inclusion who used to work in HR and

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Speaker 1: got promoted because of the HR investigations that she's been

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Speaker 1: of companies typically like the least the dei HR people

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Speaker 1: because they're constantly coming around trying to police everything that

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Speaker 1: people say, all of the relationships oded you you say

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Speaker 1: that joke, that's the people that we hate the most

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Speaker 2: That's Kamala.

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Speaker 5: Even in the.

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Speaker 4: Office, Yeah, remember the Office great show. Yes, Toby the

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Speaker 4: HR guy was the the whole running bit with him.

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Speaker 4: Was everybody, especially Michael Scott hates Toby the HR guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: because he's kind of the uh, the goody two shoes.

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Speaker 2: He's the office covert, he's the office cop cop.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the ark. He's the nark that prevents the

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Speaker 4: funny jokes from happening.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I think people are coming around on that analogy. But

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Speaker 1: here's what Gallup found uh favorability ratings shift from August.

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Speaker 1: Trump's favorabilities went up five points, his unfavorable decline by two.

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Speaker 1: They found a favorability rating for Trump of forty six,

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Speaker 1: which is actually pretty good for Trump because he's generally

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Speaker 1: just a little bit under fifty all the time. Unfavorable

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Speaker 1: fifty three for a net that would be negative seven, right, Kamala.

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Speaker 1: Kamala's favorable ratings went down three, her unfavorable ratings went

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Speaker 1: up five. She's got a net positivity rating here of

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Speaker 1: minus ten according to Gallup. And this, to me, Buck

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Speaker 1: really was the staggering part. Among independent voters, Trump is

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Speaker 1: a net minus nine forty four percent positive, fifty three

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Speaker 1: percent negative, Buck Harris. Among independent voters, these are the

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Speaker 1: swing voters that are going to decide the election, thirty

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Speaker 1: five percent positive, sixty percent negative minus twenty five. That

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Speaker 1: to me, again, this is a Gallup poll that just

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Speaker 1: incredibly damning. Now, look, has there been a rally among Democrats,

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Speaker 1: a relief rally of sorts because they don't have Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: who they had to acknowledge had mental and physical issues

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Speaker 1: you look at these numbers. This is the change since

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Speaker 1: August has begun to register. More people spend with Kamala,

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Speaker 1: more time people spend with Kamala, the less they like her.

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Speaker 4: And this also is no surprise to any of us, right,

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Speaker 4: the same way that Biden's final collapse up there on stage,

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Speaker 4: saying this all along. There's no surprise here, right. Kamala

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Speaker 4: Clay was viewed by the Democrat base in twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: was probably in the top ten, but not a top

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Speaker 4: five contender, meaning this is not somebody who I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, look, look look at the ascent of somebody

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Speaker 4: you know run the guy had political ability, Okay, I mean,

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Speaker 4: you know, was president for eight years. Not talking about

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Speaker 4: and he did win. Now he didn't win for other

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Speaker 2: But put that aside.

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Speaker 4: Kamala Harris was viewed by Democrats as a political liability

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Speaker 4: until five minutes ago. And so now that we see that,

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Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them. This is obvious, right,

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Speaker 4: This was what was supposed to happen based on what

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Speaker 4: we've already seen. And so now I just wonder, Yes,

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Speaker 4: of course there's the possibility of more October surprises, but really,

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Speaker 4: Clay Well, he's gonna say what could be an October surprise?

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Speaker 4: At this point, I don't even want to I don't

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Speaker 4: last minute stuff isn't gonna work, and they can't suppress

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Speaker 4: fired every poor choice of words. They have deployed everything

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Speaker 4: they can already against Trump politically, and they also can't

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Speaker 4: suppress the truth about Kamala. And I think that X

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Speaker 4: allows for there to be an ecosystem of clips and

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Speaker 4: information and conversation, even for those of you who aren't

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Speaker 4: on it. It feeds the rest of the Internet and

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Speaker 4: the news cycle in a way that the Democrats cannot control.

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Speaker 1: I think that's true. And also you're seeing them hiding Kamala.

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Speaker 1: How many more big events are there going to be

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Speaker 1: that move in her direction? And I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you we talked about this yesterday, the number of ballots

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Speaker 1: that have been questioned in Pennsylvania, I would love to

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Speaker 1: see somebody, and if you've got a link, I would

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Speaker 1: love for you to send it to us. Have Democrats

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Speaker 1: been able to explain why the number of requested ballots

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Speaker 1: is down massively for them in twenty twenty four compared

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Speaker 1: to twenty twenty These are mail in ballots. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: the answer is going to be, well, COVID, isn't there anymore?

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Speaker 1: We're not as afraid, but the Republican numbers of requested

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Speaker 1: Democrat ballot number down so massively in a state that

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Speaker 1: they won so narrowly. Again, trying to look at data

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Speaker 1: Did you see the Nevada CBS story where they were

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Speaker 4: I do think will there be riots play? I mean,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the program, I want to play for

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Speaker 1: you a couple of cuts that are illustrative of this election.

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Speaker 1: I would say the number one question that most people

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Speaker 1: Right, That's really the essence of how to make economic

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Speaker 2: So even though.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday, I believe it was Tim Walls.

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Speaker 1: Who still hasn't done a sit down interview for the

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Speaker 3: Let's start with inflation.

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Speaker 7: When do you tell people who wake up frankly each

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell Harrison, I know something about it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, and I want to play for you.

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Speaker 1: This is the agreed upon, memorized response to how do

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Speaker 1: This is the agreed upon response, not any tangible action.

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Speaker 1: It's just oh, basically, I feel your pain. I had

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Speaker 1: And I believe this is from the Jesse Waters show.

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Speaker 1: They put together clips of Kamala using the same line.

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Speaker 1: They're reading off, as Buck said earlier, a memorized script.

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Speaker 1: Economy buck This is the more she talks, the less

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Speaker 4: It's all just this kind of mirage the whole campaign.

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Speaker 4: you're voting Kambala, they're very solid on that. On everything else,

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Speaker 4: what do they even stand for on every other issue? Clay,

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Speaker 4: It's that there really isn't a platform, not really not

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Speaker 4: It's I mean, I'm like, is this a political campaign?

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Speaker 1: They also, I think that's why you have to actually

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Speaker 2: That's the truth. That is where we are headed.

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Speaker 1: That is what will happen if she were to manage

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Speaker 4: of time, that they can intentionally run off the clock,

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Speaker 4: is why I come back to it. It's like a

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Speaker 4: campaign trap. What can they really do because with Trump,

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Speaker 4: you can say he needs to get back on message.

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Speaker 4: He needs to have a rally here. He needs to

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Speaker 4: and you know, everyone has a million ideas of what

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Speaker 4: Trump needs to do, and you know Trump is going

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Speaker 4: to do exactly what he wants. But with Kamala Harris,

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Speaker 4: you'll notice, Claire. Look, I am an avid watcher of

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Speaker 4: Morning Joe, as everybody in this audience knows. Just so

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Speaker 4: I get the talking points from the day for the Democrats,

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Speaker 4: it's not like they're all out there. You know, it's amazing,

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Speaker 4: They're not like, you know what, we need more Kamala

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Speaker 4: message to the people. I have never seen this before

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Speaker 4: it's all, hey, can we just keep pushing the narrative

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Speaker 4: we scare enough people that they'll vote for anybody who's

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Speaker 4: not Trump.

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Speaker 1: Because Democrats know that she's incompetent, actually better than many

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Speaker 1: people that they're trying to persuade to vote for her, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean they know, but they're the ones who said

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Speaker 1: Remember they kept Joe Biden in as their nominee until

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Speaker 2: And the data reflects that as.

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Speaker 1: People are learning more about her in the battleground states,

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Speaker 1: Breaking news just a couple of minutes ago, the Federal

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Speaker 1: five and five percent, and that they expect right now

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Speaker 1: be a full point reduction projected between now and the

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Speaker 1: end of the year. Quote, the Committee has gained greater

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Speaker 1: confidence inflation is moving sustainably towards two percent, and judges

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Speaker 1: the risks to achieving employment and inflation goals are roughly

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Speaker 1: in balance the progress the rate cut reflects quote progress

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Speaker 1: on inflation and the balance of risks. It has been

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Speaker 1: expected that rates were going to be cut. The timing

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Speaker 1: right before a presidential election certainly very interesting. We bring

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Speaker 1: in now Senator Ron Johnson of the great state of Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I'll let you react to the Fed move if you

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Speaker 1: have a strong take one way or the other. But

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Speaker 1: I want to start with. Two polls came out today

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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Each of them showed one percent leads for

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, well within the margin of error. What are

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Speaker 1: you seeing on the ground. You've won several close elections

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Speaker 1: in that state. You know it better than almost anyone.

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Speaker 1: How would you assess the status of the race about

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Speaker 1: forty five days out?

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Speaker 5: It's going to be close.

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Speaker 9: We've always known that it'll be close. But what I

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Speaker 9: can tell you is that you know, in Wisconsin, we

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Speaker 9: are doing what needs to be.

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Speaker 5: Done in terms of ground game.

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Speaker 9: We're encouraging all of our voters to get out and

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Speaker 9: vote early as soon as you can. You're mail in

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Speaker 9: your Assteve ballots, You're taking them to a close office.

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Speaker 9: Do so so you can spend the rest of time

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Speaker 9: between you voting and the election getting other people to

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Speaker 9: vote early, bank those votes so that on election day,

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Speaker 9: all of our gal up the vote effort is going

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Speaker 9: to be targeted toward the low propensity voter well in

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Speaker 9: the end decide the election. So again, we've got the

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Speaker 9: right strategy. You know, we're trying, We're implementing it. I

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Speaker 9: think we've got resources to do it. I've got a

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Speaker 9: lot of good people who've been chipping in on that.

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Speaker 9: So we're doing what needs to be done, focusing really

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Speaker 9: on the ground game.

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Speaker 4: Senator Johnson, appreciate you being with us. I'm interested to

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Speaker 4: see how this plays out. We're talking about the border

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Speaker 4: a lot in the last hour, and as I understand it,

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Speaker 4: you have an effort by Senator britt to try to

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Speaker 4: pass bills through unanimous consent to get Democrats on the

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Speaker 4: record for not wanting money billions of dollars to build

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Speaker 4: the wall and also not wanting to detain migrants. What

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Speaker 4: can you tell us about this? And also the second bill,

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Speaker 4: which they're calling the Lake and Riley Act.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean we do that all the time, you know,

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Speaker 9: either amendments or you do unanimous consent requests. The things

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Speaker 9: that most Americans feel are common sense, and of course

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Speaker 9: the Democrats always block it that they do the same

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Speaker 9: thing destiny.

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Speaker 5: That's what the bill on IB was about yesterdays.

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Speaker 9: And we I don't know, pub concenters against IVF. I

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Speaker 9: have two grand children because of IVS, so we support it,

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Speaker 9: but they always put poison pills in it. We actually

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Speaker 9: are straight up with our bills, which said just let's

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Speaker 9: complete the tense. Let's let's build a wall. Let's let's

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Speaker 9: end heale immigration, Let's give the present great authority they

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Speaker 9: block all those things. Let's deport criminals and they block it. So, yeah,

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Speaker 9: that's that's.

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Speaker 5: What we do here.

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Speaker 9: It's it's it's good messaging probably in both sides, but

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Speaker 9: in the end doesn't come along.

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Speaker 1: What's the impact of Tim Walls in your impressions? You're

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Speaker 1: a lifelong Midwesterner. I just got to go hang out

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Speaker 1: at the Alabama Wisconsin game. My wife's from Michigan. Tim

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Speaker 1: Walls doesn't to me feel like a guy that connects

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Speaker 1: very well with the average beer drinking football fan across

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Speaker 1: the country. Guys that I feel like, I know, really, Well,

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Speaker 1: what do you think they they they brought him in

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Speaker 1: with the idea being, oh, he's going to help solidify

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Speaker 1: the Midwest. Is it working? How are you thinking people

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Speaker 1: are finding him in your home state.

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Speaker 9: Well, if the press were honest and talked about Tim

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Speaker 9: Wallas's record, he'd be a net negative and probably a

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Speaker 9: pretty significant net negative. But they're not talking about him honestly.

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Speaker 9: The bottom line, I don't think against any impact whatsoever. Again,

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Speaker 9: we're really not running against Kamala Harris and Tim Wallas.

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Speaker 5: We're runing against the mainstream media. Guy.

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Speaker 9: Check that legacy corporate media. There's nothing mainstream about the

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Speaker 9: radical leftists in the legacy media. So they're the ones

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Speaker 9: that are covering up for Kamala Harris's lies. They're the reason,

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Speaker 9: by the way, she could be coached and prepared for

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Speaker 9: that debate to smoothly spew lie after lie after lie

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Speaker 9: because she could be confident that the media, the moderators

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Speaker 9: weren't going to call her on it would hold her accountable.

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Speaker 9: Federals had a great article twenty five Lives she told.

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Speaker 9: We're very well documented. So again, it's not a level

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Speaker 9: playing field. It's not a fair fight. We're up against

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Speaker 9: the media, we're up against our education system. We're up

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Speaker 9: against all the radical leftists and all our institutions.

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Speaker 4: Senator Johnson, you know, we've been discussing it a lot

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Speaker 4: since Sunday for obvious reasons. Security of President Trump. I mean,

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Speaker 4: in your role in the Senate, you clearly have oversight.

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Speaker 4: There's an oversight component that the Senate has when it

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Speaker 4: comes to federal agencies, and it just seems like I think,

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Speaker 4: I don't know who would disagree with this. There's been

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Speaker 4: deplorable lapses in security around President Trump. Is there any

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Speaker 4: sense that you have that now it will be taken

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Speaker 4: seriously enough where that there'll be a greater effort among

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Speaker 4: the executive security agencies, to Secret Service obviously DHS top

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Speaker 4: of the heat to do what is necessary, because it

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Speaker 4: starts to feel like if we get to a third

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Speaker 4: attempt on President Trump, you know, the wheels are going

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Speaker 4: to start to come off the bus here with people

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Speaker 4: believing this election is on the up and up.

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Speaker 9: Well if Acting Director role claiming what happened in West

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Speaker 9: Palm Beach was a smash and success to think they're

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Speaker 9: going to take it more seriously.

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Speaker 5: By the way, let me quickly.

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Speaker 9: Spell the notion that they need more resources. Over the

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Speaker 9: last ten years, they've increased the number of agents by

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Speaker 9: thirty two percent one from sixty three hundred to eighty

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Speaker 9: three hundred two thousand diditional people. Their budget went up

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Speaker 9: sixty five percent from two billion to three point three billion.

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Speaker 9: They're part of an agency or a department DHS one

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Speaker 9: hundred and ninety billion dollar budget with two hundred and

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Speaker 9: forty thousand employees who they can detail to you know,

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Speaker 9: take care of the surgeons in terms of protection. So

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Speaker 9: they've got plenty of resources. That's not the problem. The

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Speaker 9: problem is management. It's not the guys on the ground

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Speaker 9: that are throwing their bodies in front of President Trump.

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Speaker 9: These are heroes, these people we should celebrate. It is

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Speaker 9: a rock at the top, and I don't know it

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Speaker 9: was etled with DEI. I'm not sure this anteam director wrote.

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Speaker 9: We're not getting the straight answer out of him. They're

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Speaker 9: not cooperating with our investigation.

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Speaker 5: That they're going through the motions.

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Speaker 9: They come up and brief brief us, tell us nothing.

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Speaker 9: They're not giving us the documents. We still haven't gotten

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Speaker 9: one transcript from the FDIs over one thousand interviews, even

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Speaker 9: though the deputy director told me they get those to

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Speaker 9: me as soon as possible. We've done, We've been given

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Speaker 9: access to twelve people to interview. We still haven't talked

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Speaker 9: to snikerw who took out CRUX. So again, there's so

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Speaker 9: many basic questions that haven't been answered. Camp Stretcher can

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Speaker 9: go why why are they being so opacked? Why aren't

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Speaker 9: they cooperating?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm fired up about this, and I know you

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Speaker 1: are because you've called in talking about the FBI's lack

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Speaker 1: of transparency and in fact, the fact that they have

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Speaker 1: been very dishonest with you and the briefings that they

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Speaker 1: gave you surrounding the Hunter Biden laptop. All of this,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, How in the world can

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Speaker 1: we trust the FBI, which is trying to put Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in prison for the rest of his life, and

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Speaker 1: which we know rigged the twenty twenty election by not

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Speaker 1: saying clearly that they believe the Hunter Biden laptop was

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Speaker 1: real right, in fact the opposite. How can we trust

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Speaker 1: them to conduct a fair, impartial, and honest investigation of

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Speaker 1: the two Trump assassinations when the same agency is trying

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Speaker 1: to put Trump in prison for the rest of his life.

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Speaker 1: It's an untenable conflict to me, and I hear almost

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Speaker 1: no one talking about it.

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Speaker 2: You've got to be fired up about this.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we can't trust them, YEA. What we need is

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Speaker 5: we need.

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Speaker 9: The agents on the ground, people who are patriots. They

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Speaker 9: need to come forward and tell.

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Speaker 5: Us the truth.

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Speaker 9: We need whistleblowers, and we're not getting very many of

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Speaker 9: them because they destroy the careers of whistle blowers. Even

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Speaker 9: though we have all these whistlebler protection laws, they aren't followed. Okay,

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Speaker 9: so these guys roll over you destroy whistle blowers with impunity.

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Speaker 9: So I mean, look at how they cleaned up the

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Speaker 9: crime scene, and they roll that sucker up in no time.

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Speaker 9: They've created the body. I haven't seen the autopsy. I

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Speaker 9: haven't seen the toxicology reports. Again said well, it's not

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Speaker 9: standard apper incedure to hold on the body. Well, this

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Speaker 9: isn't a standard normal time and this is an assassination

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Speaker 9: attempt on a former president, our candidate for presidency. Again,

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Speaker 9: so no, you cannot trust them right now, You've got

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Speaker 9: this the new assassin, right, how do Ukraine? You know

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Speaker 9: that CIA has to have a file on this guy,

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Speaker 9: probably pretty extensive out So is the FBI. So does CBP,

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Speaker 9: now that they were made well aware of this guy,

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Speaker 9: that interviewed him the you know HSI Homeman screening investigations

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Speaker 9: declined to interview him further. Do you think CIA is

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Speaker 9: going to turn over those files if there's any something

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Speaker 9: incriminating in terms of them maybe working with this guy,

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Speaker 9: you think they're going to turn that over to us?

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Speaker 9: By the way, do you think even if Trump gets

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Speaker 9: elected and he tells the CIA to turn over all

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Speaker 9: the information on JFK. Do you think we'll actually get

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Speaker 9: the full file?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't know, I think any of that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it is amazing.

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Speaker 4: The fourth branch of government is obviously the unelected bureaucracy.

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Speaker 4: How would you know if you were either. There's been

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Speaker 4: some discussion Senator Johnson of maybe Elon Musk. I'm sorry, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Elon Musk being on a government waste task force, which

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Speaker 4: gets a lot of us excited, whether we like you know,

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Speaker 4: Tesla's or not. We just think Elon's amazing and this

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Speaker 4: would be phenomenal. Uh. Do you think it's really possible though?

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Speaker 4: For a Trump administration? Let's say we have Senate control,

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Speaker 4: which is looking good, you know, but let's just say

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Speaker 4: we have Senate control, keep the House and Trump is

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Speaker 4: in office. Can the swamp really be drained or are

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Speaker 4: we just hoping that it doesn't keep growing?

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Speaker 9: First of all, first of all, I would love Elon

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Speaker 9: Musk to be the efficiency desire.

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Speaker 8: No.

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Speaker 9: Look what he did with Twitter, but he got rid

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Speaker 9: of seventy five to eighty percent of the personnel. Twitter's

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Speaker 9: up and running just fine, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 9: You could take that same type of approach to probably

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Speaker 9: every agency in the feder government and by way, including Defense.

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Speaker 5: Look at what he's doing in terms of firing.

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Speaker 9: Rockets into space at a fraction of the cost of

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Speaker 9: Bureacratic NASA. So I would love that. What's going to

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Speaker 9: take this can take leadership in Congress. And by the way,

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Speaker 9: from my standpoint, I think Rick Scott would be the

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Speaker 9: could be the majority leader in the Senate that would

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Speaker 9: actually cooperate to do that and not frustrate Donald Trump's

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Speaker 9: efforts or Elon must effort.

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Speaker 5: So no, I'm looking forward to that.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm jazzed about Trump winning, Bobby Kennedy handling

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Speaker 9: chronic illness, Elon Musk, looking at these agencies and making them.

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Speaker 5: Efficient, because that's what we have to do.

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Speaker 9: You have to shrink beside the federal government. You have

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Speaker 9: to devolve governing authority back to.

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Speaker 5: The states, back to the city.

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Speaker 9: That's the long term programming, and we better get going

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Speaker 9: on it, because government right now only ratsts in one direction,

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Speaker 9: just keeps growing, and as government grows, our freems received.

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Speaker 9: It's direct, it's in direct proportion. More Americans need to

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Speaker 9: understand that, and we need to vote for Donald Trump

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Speaker 9: and get Elon Musk in there cleaning house.

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Speaker 1: All right, I want you to close with this. You'd

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Speaker 1: mentioned that it's important for people to get their votes

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Speaker 1: in early. Wisconsin was decided by twenty thousand votes in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Might well hold the fate of the Senate

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Speaker 1: and the presidency in its hand. All those Wisconsin nights

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Speaker 1: up there make the case for why people sh vote

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Speaker 1: early and what the benefit is for that if they

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Speaker 1: are big Trump hub the supporters out there, you.

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Speaker 9: Know Trump's frist rally and I flew up with a

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Speaker 9: mass Rod gave him. The chart was in April of

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Speaker 9: twenty twenty four, and it ended up being about three

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Speaker 9: or four inches of driving sleep.

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Speaker 5: It was a miserable day.

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Speaker 9: Almost didn't land because they need to get in and

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Speaker 9: out so that could happen on November. So we can't

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Speaker 9: have all of our votes expect those things be cast

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Speaker 9: on election day. We need to bank them ahead of time.

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Speaker 9: But even more important, you know, we spend a lot

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Speaker 9: of money calling.

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Speaker 5: People that haven't voted yet.

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Speaker 9: Because you got those records, they're very up, they're very

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Speaker 9: you know, we can follow up.

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Speaker 3: We want.

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Speaker 9: We don't want to spend money calling people are going

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Speaker 9: to vote anyway, we want to spend all of our

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Speaker 9: get up to vote effort on the low propensity voters.

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Speaker 5: Who will decide the election.

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Speaker 9: So bank your vote, bank early.

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Speaker 5: Once you bank years, get other.

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Speaker 9: People to bank their vote, and then on election day,

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Speaker 9: hopefully we're hundreds of thousands votes ahead a Democrat and

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Speaker 9: we win easily. That's my that's my hope, that's my prayer.

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Speaker 4: Senator Ron Johnson. We're hoping to celebrate with you sometime

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Speaker 4: in the new year, the big victory this fall with

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Speaker 4: some brats, some cheese curds, and uh gluten free beer.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for being with u. Center Johnson, always appreciate it.

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Speaker 5: It's brats, by the way, brats to.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for correct Thank you for correcting that.

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Speaker 4: Sorry brats. There we go. Well it's the brotz Senator Johnson, everybody,

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Speaker 4: thank you, Thank you. I was so close, Clay, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. It's rare that you mispronounced a word.

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Speaker 4: Usually it's me mispronouncing everything I was. I was excited

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Speaker 4: about my beloved Wisconsin Wolverines. So you know there's that

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Speaker 4: You're you're gonna leave, You're gonna let me do that. Really,

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Speaker 4: you're just gonna say nothing nothing, all right, whatever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've you've adopted every team at this point. So,

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Speaker 1: uh wait, Wisconsin's the Badgers, yes, right, the Wolverines in Michigan, whatever, close.

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Speaker 4: I love you, Michigan.

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Speaker 2: And you're now you're alienating people by now.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm pulling a Hillary Clinton where no where, no

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Speaker 4: Yankees and on the Red Sox, that's Hillary Clinton. In

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in our friend Mike.

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Speaker 4: Baker joins my brother from the Agency, mister Mike Baker.

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Speaker 4: He is the host of the PDB podcast. Is in

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Speaker 4: my Presidential Daily Brief and Uh, Mike, appreciate you making

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Speaker 4: the time for us. Congrats on all the success of

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Speaker 4: the PDB podcast, and I've you know. Look, you and

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Speaker 4: I are familiar at a whole range of ways, whether

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Speaker 4: historically or from our time in with UH espionage and

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Speaker 4: sabotage operations. Around the world, right, I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: neither of us have ever seen, I would assume anything

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Speaker 4: like this. I mean this is a first What do

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Speaker 4: you think about what Israel has pulled off here?

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Speaker 7: Well, I mean look, at first of all, it's a

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Speaker 7: you know, setting aside. I'm sure what's going to be

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Speaker 7: lots of international condemnations, you know about Oh my god,

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Speaker 7: this is you know, asymmetric warfare. How dare you step

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Speaker 7: outside the norms of you know, traditional warfare conduct. You know,

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Speaker 7: from an operational perspective, it's it's very sophisticated, very impressive,

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Speaker 7: regardless of who did it. I mean again, you always

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Speaker 7: kept a coveat this by saying, look, Israel has you know,

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Speaker 7: provided no comment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they neither confirm nor deny. But you know they

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Speaker 4: also say they don't have nukes.

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Speaker 3: I mean right, yeah, exactly so. But from a from

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Speaker 3: a sophistication standpoint, Look.

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Speaker 7: You imagine what is involved here and actually sourcing the

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Speaker 7: contacts who can get you access to the communications gere,

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Speaker 7: both the pagers and the handheld radios. You know, it

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Speaker 7: was a far heavier lift than just the mechanics of

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Speaker 7: installing the explosives and you know, creating the triggering mechanism

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Speaker 7: for remote operations. So you know, the work that went

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Speaker 7: up to that point where they actually had access to

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Speaker 7: the gear is extremely impressive. They've they've done similar operations

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Speaker 7: like this in the past.

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Speaker 3: They I think it was.

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Speaker 7: Twenty twenty when they remotely took out an Iranian scientist.

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Speaker 7: And you know, there's been other situations you could even

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Speaker 7: go back to in a sense, you could go back

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Speaker 7: to Stucks and that, although that was more of a

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Speaker 7: cyber weapon, but there was still sort of an element

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Speaker 7: of physical access there that was required. But yeah, this

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Speaker 7: is this is an impressive operation. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: If you are Hesborne and let's pretend that you are

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Speaker 1: on their communications team, which I would imagine is is

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Speaker 1: in a rough spot right now. Now you've just had

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Speaker 1: the pagers. You now have had effectively the walkie talkies.

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Speaker 1: How in the world are they communicating right now? Are

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Speaker 1: they back to carry your pigeons? Can they trust them?

868
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Speaker 1: Is it just straight messengers? And more importantly, how much

869
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: do you think it creates a massive communication issue for

870
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Speaker 1: them in terms of just their ability to respond.

871
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it creates a real logistics issue for them.

872
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Speaker 7: I think, you know, first and foremost, there's an element

873
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 7: here that they're trying to create paranoia, and that's a

874
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Speaker 7: good thing when you're dealing with a terrorist organization or

875
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 7: you're dealing with a group that you're targeting, you know,

876
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 7: go back to the days of the ira or you know,

877
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 7: current times, the cartels, whomever it is. You're trying to

878
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 7: create an element of fear that they don't know who

879
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 7: they can trust within their own organization at that point,

880
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Speaker 7: and the Iranian regime has felt that recently with some

881
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Speaker 7: of the operations that have taken place inside Tehran. So

882
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 7: that I think is a really important component of all

883
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Speaker 7: of this from you know, from just a strict communications standpoint. Look,

884
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Speaker 7: they're the irony here, you know, not to make light

885
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Speaker 7: of this, but the irony is that they were able

886
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 7: to target these devices because over the past several months,

887
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 7: has Blot decided they needed to dumb down their communications approach,

888
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Speaker 7: so they put out command you know, most of the fighters,

889
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Speaker 7: the officials of the leadership groups stopped using cell phones

890
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Speaker 7: because they started to get indications that those were corrupted

891
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Speaker 7: by the Israeli services, and so they went to dumb

892
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Speaker 7: down this and that's why they were going to pages,

893
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Speaker 7: which they've used in the past, but they started to

894
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Speaker 7: use them more handheld radios for more communication to try

895
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Speaker 7: to make things more secure. So where do they go

896
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Speaker 7: from here? Look, I mean your next step is kind

897
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Speaker 7: of what al Qaeda used to do when they were

898
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Speaker 7: really dumbing things down, and it was handwritten notes and personal,

899
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Speaker 7: you know, face to face communication between you know, okay,

900
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Speaker 7: you're my cousin, I can trust you, and so it slows.

901
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Speaker 3: Things down immeasurably.

902
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Speaker 1: So when you look at this, what happens next? And

903
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Speaker 1: wouldn't you imagine in addition to the communications issues, it's

904
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Speaker 1: not only what's going on with Hesbola. Wouldn't you imagine

905
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Speaker 1: that Hamas is looking around pretty nervous. We know that

906
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Speaker 1: Israel has been very effective at trying to slow down

907
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Speaker 1: Iran's pursuit of a of a nuclear weapon? What do

908
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Speaker 1: you think those entities are doing?

909
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Speaker 2: Are they? I would be honest, if I were.

910
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Speaker 1: Them, I'd be like, all of our pagers are out, Like,

911
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,359
Speaker 1: let's get rid of everything, because if they did this

912
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Speaker 1: to them, we got to source everything and redo our

913
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Speaker 1: entire communication strategy. Doesn't don't you think this light likely

914
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Speaker 1: extends beyond Hesbola and everybody who is in a foe

915
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: of Israel right now is basically re constituting their entire

916
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Speaker 1: communication networks as well.

917
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Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I'm glad you brought up Iran right because

918
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Speaker 7: this is a pop down structure and Iran is is

919
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Speaker 7: the puppet master here and and they've created this, this ring,

920
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Speaker 7: this network of terror properties and they all share the

921
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Speaker 7: same often stated objective of Iran, which is to remove

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Speaker 7: Israel from from the map.

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Speaker 3: So yes, there.

924
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Speaker 7: There is I guarantee you right now there is coordination

925
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Speaker 7: going on between the IRGC liaison that deal with Kamas

926
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Speaker 7: and and Hesbela, the Husis, some of the militias that

927
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Speaker 7: are sitting in Iraq, islam as Jihad and uh they

928
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Speaker 7: are looking at you know, how they're going to handle

929
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Speaker 7: their communications because it doesn't just impact as you pointed out,

930
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Speaker 7: it doesn't just impact Hezbola. This is they're all back

931
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Speaker 7: finance trained resource by the same uh you know group,

932
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Speaker 7: which is the Iranian regime and the IRGC. So yeah,

933
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Speaker 7: this is a this is a big issue for them.

934
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Speaker 3: Obviously.

935
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Speaker 7: Now they've got to figure out, you know, how do

936
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Speaker 7: they go from here? And and again I go back to

937
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 7: the same point, which is part of this operation is

938
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Speaker 7: undoubtedly designed to create this paranoia within these organizations, and

939
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Speaker 7: that can sometimes create outher opportunities to create movement. He

940
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Speaker 7: creates shifts in protocols and planning and strategy and resources,

941
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Speaker 7: and so those also open up operational opportunities to take

942
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Speaker 7: advantage and identify and target individuals and elements of these organizations.

943
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Speaker 4: It's being a Mike Baker pdb as his podcast, which

944
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 4: you can listen wherever you get your podcasts. It's doing

945
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 4: great guy who brings real expertise and time not just

946
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 4: in the agency but in the scary places, doing the

947
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Speaker 4: real work to bear on what he's talking about day

948
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Speaker 4: and day out. And Mike, I'm just wondering, I don't know.

949
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Speaker 4: You don't have to confirm or deny if you've been

950
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,240
Speaker 4: talking to Trump or anybody in his orbit recently about anything,

951
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 4: but if you were going to advise who will be

952
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 4: our hopefully next president of the United States on the

953
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 4: way to handle this aspect divide policies. Specifically, this Israel

954
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 4: Hamas has bol a situation Iran in the background, and

955
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 4: there's this sense that, oh my gosh, I could escalate,

956
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 4: it could escalate at any time more than already has.

957
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 4: What would you tell the next potus? What would you

958
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 4: tell President Trump if he said, Mike, what do I

959
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: do to get things squirret away?

960
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 7: Well, first, they've got to jelf the idea of appeasement

961
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 7: with Iran, with this Iranian regime. I'm not talking about

962
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 7: the population, of course, or whatever. A lot of the

963
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 7: population would love to see the Iranian regime go, as

964
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 7: well as with the Saudis and the Jordanians and a

965
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 7: variety of other players in that region. But I would say,

966
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,840
Speaker 7: you've got to get rid of this concept of appeasement

967
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 7: and somehow they're going to join the Community of Nations.

968
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 7: This regime in the IRGC, which is an extremely influential

969
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 7: element of the Iranian government, they've got their hands in everything,

970
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 7: and we've got to go back to maximum sanctions.

971
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 3: We've done it before, right, you have.

972
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 7: To literally starve the regime out right, And does that

973
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:00,960
Speaker 7: create a hardships for the people?

974
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 3: It does?

975
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 7: But longer term, does that create opportunity for a better

976
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 7: life for those people by you know, eventually at some

977
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 7: point this regime gets pushed aside, hopefully internally. You know,

978
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 7: the population finally has had enough, so I think you've

979
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,480
Speaker 7: got to go back to maximum sanctions. And I think

980
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 7: we also you know that whoever is in charge next

981
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 7: needs to understand the danger involved and the deepening relationship

982
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 7: between Russia and Iran, because the Iranians aren't providing munitions

983
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 7: and drones and other hardware to the Russian Ukrainian war

984
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 7: effort pro bono. They're not doing it out of the

985
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 7: goodness of their hearts. They're doing it for a reason,

986
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 7: and that reason primarily is technology transfer, weapons transfer, and.

987
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: The nuclear and even space technologies areas.

988
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 7: So that is a very dangerous thing because that accelerates

989
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 7: the Iranian regime's efforts and no matter what they're saying,

990
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 7: the amounts of emgedery ranium that they're currently sitting on,

991
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 7: there's just no civilian purpose for that. So they are

992
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 7: moving towards their end goal, which is a weapons program,

993
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 7: and that has got to be stopped. And there's a

994
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 7: lot of players in the region again who would like

995
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,399
Speaker 7: to see that happen as well. They understand that most

996
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 7: of the chaos and instability in the region is a

997
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 7: result of this current Irian regime and.

998
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: The IRGC forty some odd days until our election here

999
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: the one year anniversary coming up of the October seventh

1000
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: TAMAS attack. What kind of significant odds or analysis would

1001
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: you put on the table here that the Middle East

1002
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: could become the October surprise or a major flashpoint in

1003
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: terms of its ability to impact in some way what's

1004
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: going to be a close American presidential election.

1005
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: Do you think the.

1006
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 1: Sides are quiet ish down the stretch or do you

1007
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: think this remains a major geopolitical focus that could impact

1008
00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 1: our election as well?

1009
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:00,919
Speaker 3: Well?

1010
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 7: I think, you know, breaking it out into little bits

1011
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 7: and pieces, like the Iranian regime, will you know, given

1012
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: their druthers, will not do anything that could result in

1013
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 7: a Trump victory.

1014
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: They would rather Iran would like Kamala to be in office.

1015
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: That's fair to say, Israel would like Trump. Would you

1016
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: say that's the general consensus in the Middle East?

1017
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's the general that's the general feeling, right, And

1018
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 7: so you know, if you if you if you take

1019
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 7: that to a somewhat logical course, not to say that

1020
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 7: the Iranians are on a logic train, but if you

1021
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 7: did do that, then you would say, okay, they they

1022
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 7: they won't do anything drastic between now and the election.

1023
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 7: That could shift things to cause American voters think, you

1024
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 7: know what, Actually, the Iranians are the key to the

1025
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 7: problems here, and we need somebody strong.

1026
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: To deal with them.

1027
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 7: And oh, look, we've got a track record of the

1028
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:55,879
Speaker 7: former president dealing with them in a in a more

1029
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 7: forceful aggressive way. We've got almost four years of the

1030
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 7: Hair Biden administration appeasing them, so I think they'll they'll

1031
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,319
Speaker 7: be mindful of that. But look, this problem, we just

1032
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 7: keep kicking the can down the road. Every time Anthony

1033
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 7: blaken or anyone on the US side talks about, well,

1034
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 7: we just have to have this ceasefire.

1035
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 3: In Gaza in order to have peace, that's that's nonsense.

1036
00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 7: You're putting lift stick on a pig, because nothing's ever

1037
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: going to change in that region as long as the regime,

1038
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,279
Speaker 7: their audience, and their proxies that they've built have the

1039
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 7: same end goal, which is the destruction of Israel. So

1040
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 7: that's the problem that has to be dealt with at

1041
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 7: the top. You know, just occasional you know, flare ups

1042
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 7: and then a ceasefire that has a lot of ceasefire

1043
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 7: with with Kamas. Good God, we'll be talking about this

1044
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 7: or grandkids will be talking about this, no.

1045
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: Doubt appreciate the time. Fantastic analysis. He is Mike Baker.

1046
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon.

1047
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 5: Take care of gay, take care of but.

1048
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: Population of Israel, and high alert again anticipating an attack

1049
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: of some type. You just heard us talk talking about

1050
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:02,839
Speaker 1: what exactly has been going on in the Middle East,

1051
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: day in, day out, been that way since October seventh,

1052
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: almost a year ago now, when their country was attacked

1053
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: by Hamas terrorists. The fear of the next attack understandable.

1054
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: We don't know how it will arrive, but we know

1055
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:17,960
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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1060
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Speaker 1: been on the ground in Israel. We need to help them.

1061
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