WEBVTT - #70 - Zach Crowell - Wrote “Body Like A Backroad” and plays back isolated tracks. 0:00:01.120 --> 0:00:04.080 I welcome to episode seventy of the Bobby Cast and 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:08.440 with writer producer I Got. You might not know his name, 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:10.039 but when I play you a song, you're gonna be like, 0:00:10.039 --> 0:00:13.880 holy crap, Zach crowds here, here here is Zach. So I 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:15.400 have all I have a lot of stuff that you've done, 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:16.720 and I always like to start off and just kind 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.680 of get everybody's listening an overview and we'll get back 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.360 to it all. But here's some of the stuff that 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:30.680 Zack has been involved in. For example, church bill that okay, 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:34.280 I know, yeah, yeah, Like I don't know dirty laundry 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:43.800 from carry Out. That's exactly heartbeat from carry You would 0:00:43.800 --> 0:00:45.280 think just that would be a big deal. I could 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:49.479 be like you do. But now why you're the coolest 0:00:49.560 --> 0:00:53.480 guy in town is that you're in the Sam camp. 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.120 You actually create. You've built the same camp with Sam. Yeah, 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:03.880 and so body like a back road George break up 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:13.199 in a small town cop car, Yeah, we got dollar, 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:20.400 we have it all version, Yeah, house party, lead the 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.360 night on. Well, I didn't write that one, let's be fair, 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:28.280 but I was about to say we'll get lawsuits. You 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:30.840 didn't let me even finish the clip. You didn't write 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.920 that one, but you did produce that. So so all 0:01:33.959 --> 0:01:36.240 I'm saying is there's even more, even like middle of 0:01:36.280 --> 0:01:39.679 a memory, in the middle of that, I want people 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.640 to know, like you're so into this and all may 0:01:42.720 --> 0:01:44.640 people have know yet, like this is like you're coming 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:47.039 out party. It's like your Keithanira. It's like it's Keithanira. 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:51.400 What's that called? What it's? Uh, do you know what 0:01:51.400 --> 0:01:55.040 that is? That? But you grew up in Tennessee, so 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.400 that's more of a Hispanic Mexican thing. So when you 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.080 turn thirteen or so fifteen, Okay, so I don't even know. 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:03.000 My wife would probably know. She's a Texas girl, So 0:02:03.080 --> 0:02:04.560 I bet I bet her and her family have to 0:02:04.760 --> 0:02:07.640 have a clue about that. Let's start with I guess, 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:10.560 just kind of your story, because for me it's interesting. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:14.160 But because like a lot of us now, you grew 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:16.200 up and you have all these musical influences, you don't 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:18.720 just go I have a fiddle and a banjo and 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.200 I'm gonna make country music, which is how normal people 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:24.240 are nowadays. Even the most that the weird thing for 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:25.960 me is I have a lot of friends or artists, 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:27.280 and you know, they have to go they got the 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:29.240 radio that they did. They love country music. They're almost 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.760 not allowed to say how influenced they are by other 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:34.040 genres because it's a bad word. It's like a bad 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.880 But you have been making beats since you're a kid, right, Well, 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:42.360 I didn't start music until after high school. Um. I 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.080 was always a sports kid and uh so I didn't 0:02:46.120 --> 0:02:47.960 touch music till after high school. I was a music kid. 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.919 I was the music guy of the group of friends. 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:53.600 I was the DJ of the group of friends. And 0:02:53.600 --> 0:02:56.560 I always made mixed tapes for my friends and sold 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.240 them to him. And so I was the music nut 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:59.880 of the friends and always wanted to be in a 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.760 music business. But I had no clue, you know, of 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.600 how to do it everything. But so after high school, 0:03:04.639 --> 0:03:08.560 I I that's when I bought a drum machine, and 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:13.880 you know, wanted to be manny fresh most people don't 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.920 you wanted to make bets. I wanted to make beats. 0:03:15.919 --> 0:03:18.520 I wanted to you know, I grew up on you know, 0:03:18.840 --> 0:03:21.000 nineties R and B and hip hop stuff, so I 0:03:21.040 --> 0:03:23.959 wanted to be Dr Dre and I wanted to be 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:27.079 master p as you want to be a rapper. I 0:03:27.120 --> 0:03:29.000 always just love the music. I loved the beats. I 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:33.440 loved the the energy, the emotion of urban music. I 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:36.000 don't know why, I just always attracted me. Did you 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:37.800 have a time where you would take the beats? Because 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.120 that friends that did this and they would just make 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:41.240 beats and sell them. Yeah, I did it for a 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.720 living for I mean a small living for five to 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:47.600 ten years. So you make the beats? Did you make 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:51.320 the beats? And then also in certain courses, yeah, you're 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:54.400 guessing the whole thing. It started off I'd make beats 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.600 and uh with some buddies, and then eventually I would 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:59.280 make moan and sell them to them, and eventually I 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.800 would write hook on them and sell them whole choruses 0:04:01.880 --> 0:04:04.080 for a hundred dollars, thousand dollars, whatever in the world 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:07.040 I could do to make a living. And uh, that 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.440 led to writing whole songs by myself, and then that 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.640 led to co writing with other people. And you know, 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:17.320 this is a fifteen year fast forward. Where did you 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.760 think your career would be there? If you're twenty one 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:21.360 years old, you're you've been making me for a couple 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:23.440 of years, and where did you think you where did 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:28.039 you think that was gonna lead you're so you don't know, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:30.320 you're so dumb in naive at the time, you just 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.200 you know, I just knew I wanted to continue making music. 0:04:33.320 --> 0:04:34.960 That I guess that was a goal, was to keep 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:39.440 doing it and whatever, uh in whatever capacity. And you know, 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.880 because I had, you know, various jobs and toured with people. 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:44.599 Was a tour manager for a guy, and worked for 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.480 I worked for Kenney Chesney. I was one of his 0:04:47.640 --> 0:04:50.680 sponsorship manager guys out there doing that. And those are 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:52.320 just you know, little things that I worked at a 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.120 music company on music row, and I worked at a 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:58.080 sports store and cool Spring. You know, so I had 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:00.600 all those little things. But I just I wanted to 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:03.600 do music in some way, you know, in any sort 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:05.880 of way. But you know, so, but God's timing is 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.599 you know, correct. But you know, it took a long 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:11.640 time to get it going. But I'm glad it, did, 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.440 you know, because the I wanted to be the hip 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.760 hop guy. I'm born and raised in Nashville. I wanted 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.040 to be the hip hop guy, and it never worked 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:22.240 out in that way. But I love country music and 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:25.160 have been around country music my whole life. Whatever, I 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:27.440 decided to kind of put the two together you know, 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.080 I'd had ten or fifteen years and making urban pop music, 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:32.479 and at that point I started to write country songs. 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:36.760 And that coincidental time the genre kind of collided with 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:40.080 urban music, and I was doing it authentically. It's what 0:05:40.120 --> 0:05:46.280 I naturally do, so it it was it was once 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:49.520 I started doing the doors opened quicker um because I 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.400 was kind of a rookie with fifteen years of experience, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:53.520 you know, when I kind of show up in the 0:05:53.600 --> 0:05:55.680 Nashville songwriting community. I had been doing it forever and 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:59.200 I was professional, but I was still new and and 0:05:59.320 --> 0:06:01.320 uh and I was taking what I had been doing 0:06:01.360 --> 0:06:05.840 and all the uh rap music and urban stuff I 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:07.760 had grown up on and all the country stuff I've 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.520 grown up on. It you combine them in, you know, 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:14.200 started working. It's interesting because you came in and I 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:16.239 love that you did this, and I wanted to start. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.680 Let's go backwards. So you have a laptop in here, 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:21.080 and this is the first time anyone's done this since 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:24.120 you do right and produce. So what you have on 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.880 your laptop is a body like a back road, and 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:28.880 so do you want to pick that up? So what 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.039 this is gonna be cool because you can actually break 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:34.280 down this song and so, I mean, everybody, this song 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:38.800 is a monster. So this is the song that the 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.640 version you would here on the radio download. So what 0:06:41.760 --> 0:06:43.400 do you have on your laptop? And there are lots 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.120 of little little what they go wave files, like little 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:49.880 jiggly lines. Keep talking. I'm gonna arm some tracks real quick. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:54.840 Keep talking. And so there are all these different lines 0:06:54.880 --> 0:06:57.560 and they'll be like a vocal here, a drum here, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.880 an instrument here, and so you have all of these 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.960 that you can separate, right, So take me to the room. 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:07.000 When you guys decided to do this song, this song, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.280 it was Sam and I, you know, whenever it was 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.120 We're at my house and we're just sitting there one 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:14.480 night writing. Sam and I spent hours and hours and 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.400 hours and in my room or in my studio just 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:21.119 talking and about you know, life and songs and whatever, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.040 and you know, just being our heads against the wall 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:25.120 trying to come up with something good. And one night 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.280 he grabbed the guitar electric guitar. That's him playing the 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:29.400 electric guitar on that on by like a back road, 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:31.680 and uh, he just grabbed it and started singing, and 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.480 he talked about he had this idea of this song 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.000 called by like a background. He kind of sang me 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:40.200 the gist of that chorus, and you know, of course 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:43.720 I loved it and it was amazing. Sam's beyond talented 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.600 and uh uh at that, you know, At that point 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:48.160 with he and I were like, let's just make a 0:07:48.200 --> 0:07:50.000 basic little sketch of the song, you know, just a 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.360 little play some guitar and I'll program a little drum thing. 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:57.680 Let's just record a little verse chorus thing, just to 0:07:57.720 --> 0:08:00.600 see how it feels, you know, because Sam and I 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.720 when we write and right with other people that you know, 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.320 takes days and days and months. Like he's been a 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.840 very very long time on his songs. He cares about 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.960 him a lot. Is simple as this song appears, you know, 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:16.920 it's uh crafted song. It's a very intentional song and 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.040 uh but yeah, so it just starts out with us 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:23.360 in a room just doing the basic framework. I guess, 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:26.800 so what are you gonna play me? First? I don't 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:31.040 know what should I do? So what we're mirroring here 0:08:31.200 --> 0:08:34.040 the final parts of the final this is the final mix. 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:36.160 Now it's on my laptop. Who knows what files I'm 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.560 missing and all that sort of unprofessional stuff. But I 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.160 mixed this song myself, so you know, I did the 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:44.480 the whole thing, so hopefully I have you know, whatever 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:50.160 little tricks. Um of course in my computer, you're going 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.959 to freak out. So that bump bump, bump, bump up. 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:59.079 What is that right there? That is it's funny. That 0:09:00.720 --> 0:09:04.960 is a sound. It's four yeah, four guitar sounds. Let 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:13.840 me see that sound. That sound, it's that sound. And 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:23.640 the main one is this thing right here. I don't 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:25.040 want to give away the whole site. There's some little 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:26.599 trickery going all right there. There's a whole bunch of 0:09:26.640 --> 0:09:30.160 plug ins, which is basically just effects and little trick things. 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:36.200 This is what it actually is, just by itself, and 0:09:36.240 --> 0:09:40.760 that's actually me. That's Sam's guitar player, Josh Burquett Bert 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.920 He that's him playing guitar and me next to him 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.679 singing into the microphone at the same time. Going back 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.280 that so that and then I put all the little 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:52.520 gizmos on. It's like Peter Frampton almost like, but then 0:09:52.520 --> 0:10:01.120 I put all these proprietary ideas on it. But it 0:10:01.160 --> 0:10:04.760 turned into you know, definable, you know. So that's your 0:10:04.880 --> 0:10:08.640 voice and with the guitar there's something about recording it. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:11.280 And then you know, like I said, all these little 0:10:11.280 --> 0:10:14.079 plug ins that I don't want to hit that age hit. 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:21.440 So how would you do that with your mouth? If 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:22.800 you turn it off like that? Would just do it 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.520 now like you would? You know? It's him playing it 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:26.439 right at the thing and me next to him going 0:10:26.480 --> 0:10:33.640 back the bed. The that lick the word that lick 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.559 came from on that song. See if they find it 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.240 here without a in the outro of this song, it 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:46.400 should be more prepared. There's me's this vote coder. I'm 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.120 actually if I know you can't see the home. He's 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.680 got this computer program pulled up and it's got like 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:54.880 a million tracks on it. Yeah, forgive me for trying 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.600 to find this one thing. Yeah, here it is on 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:04.680 the outro of the song. You hear you hear this 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:12.480 in the background, that's meaing phone planet what it's a 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:15.120 keyboard with a microphone on it. I'm playing the notes 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.560 with a keyboard while singing the words. So that's you singing. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.120 That's that. And then later on the song, I started 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:23.319 one night saying when I was sitting around working and 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:31.160 I started playing I started playing this singing that, which 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.400 that turned into Sam was like, hey, that's cool melody. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.360 Maybe that you know what if that was the the 0:11:36.440 --> 0:11:38.240 riff of the song, you know, the hook of the song. 0:11:38.360 --> 0:11:43.160 So we ended up doing what are you saying? Are 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.360 you saying are you in the lick or the vocoder? 0:11:45.600 --> 0:11:53.320 In the vocoder? I was saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.959 that's crazy man, that's awesome. I wouldn't hear it broken down. 0:11:57.000 --> 0:11:59.160 It's funny. I'm an idiot. I don't know what I'm doing. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.080 I didn't think this song should have a lick. I 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:06.320 didn't think it should have this. I'm an idiot. Sam 0:12:06.360 --> 0:12:07.880 for months was going, hey, I think the song should 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:09.040 have a lick, and I thought it should just be 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:16.000 this hold on incredibly wrong. Uh, And he was like, 0:12:16.080 --> 0:12:17.880 you know, he was adamant about it should have a lick. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:21.680 Thank goodness, he's way smarter than me, because you know, 0:12:21.720 --> 0:12:25.560 without this thing right here, to me, that's the song. 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.040 I'm glad he was forced me to put a lick 0:12:29.040 --> 0:12:30.920 in there, because I was incredibly wrong saying it shouldn't 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.480 be in there. So when you start to lay the 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:37.520 vocals down, can you isolate vocals in that? So? Is 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.200 there is there a main Sam and is there Sam 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.600 doing with Sam? Or yeah, there's a there's a whole 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:46.000 bunch we always who you know, holler and you know, 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.640 make a bunch of noise. I'm not a big Engineers 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:51.360 would probably get mad at me because you know, I'm 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.920 not a big Like I have a TV on in 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:55.720 the room when we're recording, and most of the stuff 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:59.160 he's just holding a microphone, which you know usually want 0:12:59.160 --> 0:13:01.800 to mount it and have it all proper. And you 0:13:01.840 --> 0:13:08.400 know there's something about noise and chaos and and uh, 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:13.560 you know, just I guess the word is unprofessional engineering. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:17.679 That makes it sounds it sounds like it fits this. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:20.319 It fits a lot of Sam's music and the stuff 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.920 we do. Sid got here right there, listen to side. 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:31.640 The noise coming behind got brazen. Their first time I've 0:13:31.640 --> 0:13:36.520 seen a walk by by fellow. I had to get 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:41.480 her number, like six weeks now me and her go 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:46.360 way back, like yeah, so just I mean, you know, 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.040 if you're not an engineer, may not notice all the 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.520 noise in there, but you know we're down here hollering stuff. 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:59.839 It's just it's in the room. So that's happening a 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:05.280 round town. It makes it alive to me and Uh, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:07.080 it's real. You can hear it on a lot of 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.400 his songs. I mean there's Leave an Eye on specifically, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.400 there's just noise in the background, but it you know, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.840 it works for his music. Some songs, you you know, uh, 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:19.320 take your time song, you don't need to be holler 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:20.480 and in the back of that song, it's a more 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.600 intimate thing. And but this song, it's such a loose song. 0:14:25.120 --> 0:14:29.280 You know, imperfections are are I think a good thing 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:36.280 on this one. You hear that track again. Snaps or clasps, 0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:43.840 those are it's a couple of things. It's a snap. 0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:47.280 It has this thing and it's it's just a little 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:54.560 just a little who knows that's the name that doesn't 0:14:54.560 --> 0:14:57.040 even need to be there. But in the chorus it 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:00.000 does other stuff, you know. At other sounds are those 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.400 anyone snaps? No, those are just some random sounds I 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.080 found on the internet at some point, you know, years ago. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:10.320 Writers and producers, we have a good jillion sounds and 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.400 and an absurd amount of uh you know, yeah, that's 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:17.120 just one of the what about that song almost didn't 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:18.720 make it on the song you said to the leg 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:20.440 But what it was like at last minute, like Okay, 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:22.440 we should put this on it, but really defines it. 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.800 Uh that this was it's funny everything you're pointing out 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:27.720 or things Sam did, maybe my I don't need to 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:30.040 be in the room. Well, we were almost done. He 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:32.560 suggested to seem my computer forgive me if my computer 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:45.400 like pauses and he did this almost that little tag 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.480 right there, if I'm gonna take you slow. That wasn't 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.280 That was a eleventh hour. He was like, hey, I 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:52.200 think that last course should hold for a little bit, 0:15:52.320 --> 0:15:55.520 so I'm gonna take it slow, which to me, I 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:57.720 couldn't imagine the song without that part. That's such a 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.360 such a good payoff. And he suggested it again. I 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.840 did not and uh, but as soon as we did it, 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.240 we just you know, it felt right. What about the 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:12.280 huh huh? Who is that You're pointing out everything? That's 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:15.200 not my idea? This was all backfiring. No, it's funny. 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:19.280 I Uh. I was recording some stuff on this and 0:16:19.320 --> 0:16:25.160 I was doing that percussive part let me find it body. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:32.120 I was doing that that's been on like every rap 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:33.640 song over the past few years. I mean, it's just 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:36.240 it's that sound. But I was doing that specific part 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:40.960 with a tambourine, is what I was doing in Joshua Sale, 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:44.520 Sam's drummer, said hey, you should use that DJ Mustard 0:16:44.880 --> 0:16:47.520 hey thing, and I was like, it's great, and uh 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.640 so I put it up. These are hosts all backfiring. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.680 I wish I could say this was all mightia but 0:16:57.280 --> 0:16:59.960 just but it's awesome in there? Is that Sam say 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:04.879 in his own harmonies? Uh? Some yes, some know a 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.520 lot of it's probably Josh Osborne, who we wrote this 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:14.320 song with, who's super duper talented and uh traveling. H 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:18.640 I think Josh or Sam ended up seeing a few 0:17:18.720 --> 0:17:21.360 later on because Josh wasn't there. Oh yeah, right here 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:23.440 where we added that part if the and I'm gonna 0:17:23.480 --> 0:17:28.320 take it slow fast as I can. I'm sick it slow. 0:17:29.119 --> 0:17:31.879 So Sam just did that part because we added that. 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.679 Like I said in the eleventh Hour, Dan, it's so 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.480 broken down. That's that's crazy. You brought all that. I 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:40.840 appreciate that. I think people will hear that song now 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:46.080 and appreciate how layered the simplicity is. It's crazy how 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.760 hard it is to this song was a task to do. 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.840 To me, It's funny because I and I talked about 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:53.840 that you can you can fold it now. Um. I 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.080 talked about that song as an example of the day 0:17:56.119 --> 0:17:58.439 it came out, a lot of people were like, what 0:17:58.480 --> 0:17:59.880 the heck is this? I was like, guys, you're gonna 0:17:59.880 --> 0:18:02.399 be wrong, Like, you're gonna be wrong, Like, first of all, 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.760 look at the body of work that's been produced before this. Secondly, 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:07.960 I don't ever hear a song for the first time 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.399 and like it ever, because I'm just not conditioned to 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:12.879 hear something new. That's why people don't new music has 0:18:12.920 --> 0:18:17.040 not loved it first. It takes time. And now it's 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.320 the biggest song. First of all, it's you be the 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:22.440 biggest song of the year. Um. Secondly, it's the only 0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:25.560 song since I've been in Nashville and almost five years 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:28.920 now that it's start the crossing over and it's it's 0:18:28.960 --> 0:18:31.440 not there yet but it's but it is going. It's 0:18:31.440 --> 0:18:33.520 the first song to even go there. And it's almost 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:37.119 impossible for men to cross over. It's always women except 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:38.840 for Rascal Flats, and they kind of sound like women. 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:46.360 Absolutely necessarily because Carrie did it, Taylor did it, Leanne 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:49.600 Rhymes did it. If You Lady, Annabellum did it, and 0:18:49.600 --> 0:18:53.000 that was a female driven song, you know whenever, So 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.040 for saying it's for so many reasons, it's weird that 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.320 Sam's doing it, and it's awesome. It's great, I mean, 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:03.000 and it's funny like Sam's not out there peddling the 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:05.440 song and hustling the song to to be a cross over. 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:09.119 You know, Sam's a just let's see what happens kind 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.560 of thing. Like you know, so Sam less country music 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.280 and and wants to be a country artist and is 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.720 happy where he is. So he's not you know, he's 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:22.200 definitely not out there begging for crossover spins. But also 0:19:22.320 --> 0:19:24.720 like that Sam doesn't care. Like that's what I like 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.560 about on the most, it's like Sam does Sam, and 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:31.479 that's it. He's very happy and content just being at 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.199 home with his wife and relaxing. It's it's you know, 0:19:34.359 --> 0:19:39.040 he's the sweetest. It's he's totally genuine, and it's he's 0:19:39.080 --> 0:19:41.840 not after money or fame or praise at all. He 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.320 just he's a songwriter. If you boil it all down, 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:49.480 he's a songwriter, um, and he just wants to continue 0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:53.280 writing songs and and uh if he if he records them, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.639 that's you know, you know, he's like I said, it's 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.280 a songwriter at the end of the day. And and 0:19:57.400 --> 0:20:00.359 uh yeah, let me talking about Express Prose for once second. 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:02.480 So the average number of people who apply for any 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.879 given job is one hundred and eighteen. Think about that. 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.800 Any job that you're applying for a hundred and seventeen 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.040 to other people probably trying to get that job to 0:20:10.680 --> 0:20:13.960 only twenty of those get an interview. 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I didn't write that song. 0:21:23.119 --> 0:21:27.040 I typically produce stuff I write, but it's produced so cool. 0:21:27.160 --> 0:21:29.399 Thank you. This is when Dustin sent it to me. 0:21:29.440 --> 0:21:31.680 Just some buddies with Dustin and he uh, It's like, hey, 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:34.359 what do you think about this song? You know? I 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:35.719 was like, dude, I love it. I was like, I'm 0:21:35.760 --> 0:21:37.159 about to be arrogant. I was like, but I think 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:38.600 I should produce that song. I was like, I don't 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:40.320 think anyone. I was like, that's kind of what I 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.240 naturally do. It has a little bit of an urban field. 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:44.000 It's you know, as an R and B tendant season. 0:21:44.440 --> 0:21:47.040 I was like, you know, I kind of asked for 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:51.960 that job. Turned out it's turned out really cool. I'm 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:53.920 my favorite baseline on. I'm very proud of the synth 0:21:54.000 --> 0:21:57.080