1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: I welcome to episode seventy of the Bobby Cast and 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: with writer producer I Got. You might not know his name, 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: but when I play you a song, you're gonna be like, 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: holy crap, Zach crowds here, here here is Zach. So I 5 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: have all I have a lot of stuff that you've done, 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: and I always like to start off and just kind 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: of get everybody's listening an overview and we'll get back 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: to it all. But here's some of the stuff that 9 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Zack has been involved in. For example, church bill that okay, 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, yeah, Like I don't know dirty laundry 11 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: from carry Out. That's exactly heartbeat from carry You would 12 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: think just that would be a big deal. I could 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: be like you do. But now why you're the coolest 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 1: guy in town is that you're in the Sam camp. 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 1: You actually create. You've built the same camp with Sam. Yeah, 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: and so body like a back road George break up 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: in a small town cop car, Yeah, we got dollar, 18 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: we have it all version, Yeah, house party, lead the 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: night on. Well, I didn't write that one, let's be fair, 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: but I was about to say we'll get lawsuits. You 21 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: didn't let me even finish the clip. You didn't write 22 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: that one, but you did produce that. So so all 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying is there's even more, even like middle of 24 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: a memory, in the middle of that, I want people 25 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: to know, like you're so into this and all may 26 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: people have know yet, like this is like you're coming 27 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,039 Speaker 1: out party. It's like your Keithanira. It's like it's Keithanira. 28 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: What's that called? What it's? Uh, do you know what 29 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: that is? That? But you grew up in Tennessee, so 30 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: that's more of a Hispanic Mexican thing. So when you 31 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: turn thirteen or so fifteen, Okay, so I don't even know. 32 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: My wife would probably know. She's a Texas girl, So 33 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: I bet I bet her and her family have to 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: have a clue about that. Let's start with I guess, 35 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: just kind of your story, because for me it's interesting. 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: But because like a lot of us now, you grew 37 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: up and you have all these musical influences, you don't 38 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: just go I have a fiddle and a banjo and 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make country music, which is how normal people 40 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: are nowadays. Even the most that the weird thing for 41 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: me is I have a lot of friends or artists, 42 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know, they have to go they got the 43 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: radio that they did. They love country music. They're almost 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: not allowed to say how influenced they are by other 45 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: genres because it's a bad word. It's like a bad 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 1: But you have been making beats since you're a kid, right, Well, 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: I didn't start music until after high school. Um. I 48 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: was always a sports kid and uh so I didn't 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: touch music till after high school. I was a music kid. 50 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: I was the music guy of the group of friends. 51 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: I was the DJ of the group of friends. And 52 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: I always made mixed tapes for my friends and sold 53 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: them to him. And so I was the music nut 54 00:02:58,320 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: of the friends and always wanted to be in a 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: music business. But I had no clue, you know, of 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: how to do it everything. But so after high school, 57 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: I I that's when I bought a drum machine, and 58 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: you know, wanted to be manny fresh most people don't 59 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: you wanted to make bets. I wanted to make beats. 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,520 Speaker 1: I wanted to you know, I grew up on you know, 61 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: nineties R and B and hip hop stuff, so I 62 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,959 Speaker 1: wanted to be Dr Dre and I wanted to be 63 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: master p as you want to be a rapper. I 64 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: always just love the music. I loved the beats. I 65 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: loved the the energy, the emotion of urban music. I 66 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: don't know why, I just always attracted me. Did you 67 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: have a time where you would take the beats? Because 68 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: that friends that did this and they would just make 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: beats and sell them. Yeah, I did it for a 70 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: living for I mean a small living for five to 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 1: ten years. So you make the beats? Did you make 72 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: the beats? And then also in certain courses, yeah, you're 73 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: guessing the whole thing. It started off I'd make beats 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: and uh with some buddies, and then eventually I would 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: make moan and sell them to them, and eventually I 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: would write hook on them and sell them whole choruses 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: for a hundred dollars, thousand dollars, whatever in the world 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: I could do to make a living. And uh, that 79 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: led to writing whole songs by myself, and then that 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: led to co writing with other people. And you know, 81 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: this is a fifteen year fast forward. Where did you 82 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: think your career would be there? If you're twenty one 83 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 1: years old, you're you've been making me for a couple 84 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: of years, and where did you think you where did 85 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:28,039 Speaker 1: you think that was gonna lead you're so you don't know, 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: you're so dumb in naive at the time, you just 87 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, I just knew I wanted to continue making music. 88 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: That I guess that was a goal, was to keep 89 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: doing it and whatever, uh in whatever capacity. And you know, 90 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: because I had, you know, various jobs and toured with people. 91 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: Was a tour manager for a guy, and worked for 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: I worked for Kenney Chesney. I was one of his 93 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: sponsorship manager guys out there doing that. And those are 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: just you know, little things that I worked at a 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: music company on music row, and I worked at a 96 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: sports store and cool Spring. You know, so I had 97 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: all those little things. But I just I wanted to 98 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: do music in some way, you know, in any sort 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: of way. But you know, so, but God's timing is 100 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: you know, correct. But you know, it took a long 101 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: time to get it going. But I'm glad it, did, 102 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, because the I wanted to be the hip 103 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: hop guy. I'm born and raised in Nashville. I wanted 104 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: to be the hip hop guy, and it never worked 105 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: out in that way. But I love country music and 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: have been around country music my whole life. Whatever, I 107 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: decided to kind of put the two together you know, 108 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: I'd had ten or fifteen years and making urban pop music, 109 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: and at that point I started to write country songs. 110 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: And that coincidental time the genre kind of collided with 111 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: urban music, and I was doing it authentically. It's what 112 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: I naturally do, so it it was it was once 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: I started doing the doors opened quicker um because I 114 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: was kind of a rookie with fifteen years of experience, 115 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: you know, when I kind of show up in the 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: Nashville songwriting community. I had been doing it forever and 117 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: I was professional, but I was still new and and 118 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: uh and I was taking what I had been doing 119 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: and all the uh rap music and urban stuff I 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: had grown up on and all the country stuff I've 121 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: grown up on. It you combine them in, you know, 122 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: started working. It's interesting because you came in and I 123 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:16,239 Speaker 1: love that you did this, and I wanted to start. 124 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: Let's go backwards. So you have a laptop in here, 125 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: and this is the first time anyone's done this since 126 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: you do right and produce. So what you have on 127 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: your laptop is a body like a back road, and 128 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,880 Speaker 1: so do you want to pick that up? So what 129 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: this is gonna be cool because you can actually break 130 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: down this song and so, I mean, everybody, this song 131 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: is a monster. So this is the song that the 132 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 1: version you would here on the radio download. So what 133 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: do you have on your laptop? And there are lots 134 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: of little little what they go wave files, like little 135 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: jiggly lines. Keep talking. I'm gonna arm some tracks real quick. 136 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: Keep talking. And so there are all these different lines 137 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: and they'll be like a vocal here, a drum here, 138 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 1: an instrument here, and so you have all of these 139 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: that you can separate, right, So take me to the room. 140 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: When you guys decided to do this song, this song, 141 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: it was Sam and I, you know, whenever it was 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: We're at my house and we're just sitting there one 143 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: night writing. Sam and I spent hours and hours and 144 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: hours and in my room or in my studio just 145 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:21,119 Speaker 1: talking and about you know, life and songs and whatever, 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: and you know, just being our heads against the wall 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 1: trying to come up with something good. And one night 148 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: he grabbed the guitar electric guitar. That's him playing the 149 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: electric guitar on that on by like a back road, 150 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: and uh, he just grabbed it and started singing, and 151 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: he talked about he had this idea of this song 152 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,000 Speaker 1: called by like a background. He kind of sang me 153 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: the gist of that chorus, and you know, of course 154 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I loved it and it was amazing. Sam's beyond talented 155 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: and uh uh at that, you know, At that point 156 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: with he and I were like, let's just make a 157 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: basic little sketch of the song, you know, just a 158 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: little play some guitar and I'll program a little drum thing. 159 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: Let's just record a little verse chorus thing, just to 160 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: see how it feels, you know, because Sam and I 161 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: when we write and right with other people that you know, 162 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: takes days and days and months. Like he's been a 163 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: very very long time on his songs. He cares about 164 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: him a lot. Is simple as this song appears, you know, 165 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: it's uh crafted song. It's a very intentional song and 166 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: uh but yeah, so it just starts out with us 167 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: in a room just doing the basic framework. I guess, 168 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: so what are you gonna play me? First? I don't 169 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: know what should I do? So what we're mirroring here 170 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the final parts of the final this is the final mix. 171 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 1: Now it's on my laptop. Who knows what files I'm 172 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: missing and all that sort of unprofessional stuff. But I 173 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:42,160 Speaker 1: mixed this song myself, so you know, I did the 174 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 1: the whole thing, so hopefully I have you know, whatever 175 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: little tricks. Um of course in my computer, you're going 176 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 1: to freak out. So that bump bump, bump, bump up. 177 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: What is that right there? That is it's funny. That 178 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: is a sound. It's four yeah, four guitar sounds. Let 179 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: me see that sound. That sound, it's that sound. And 180 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: the main one is this thing right here. I don't 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: want to give away the whole site. There's some little 182 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,599 Speaker 1: trickery going all right there. There's a whole bunch of 183 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: plug ins, which is basically just effects and little trick things. 184 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: This is what it actually is, just by itself, and 185 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: that's actually me. That's Sam's guitar player, Josh Burquett Bert 186 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: He that's him playing guitar and me next to him 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 1: singing into the microphone at the same time. Going back 188 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: that so that and then I put all the little 189 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: gizmos on. It's like Peter Frampton almost like, but then 190 00:09:52,520 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: I put all these proprietary ideas on it. But it 191 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: turned into you know, definable, you know. So that's your 192 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: voice and with the guitar there's something about recording it. 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: And then you know, like I said, all these little 194 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: plug ins that I don't want to hit that age hit. 195 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: So how would you do that with your mouth? If 196 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 1: you turn it off like that? Would just do it 197 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: now like you would? You know? It's him playing it 198 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 1: right at the thing and me next to him going 199 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: back the bed. The that lick the word that lick 200 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: came from on that song. See if they find it 201 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: here without a in the outro of this song, it 202 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: should be more prepared. There's me's this vote coder. I'm 203 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: actually if I know you can't see the home. He's 204 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: got this computer program pulled up and it's got like 205 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: a million tracks on it. Yeah, forgive me for trying 206 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: to find this one thing. Yeah, here it is on 207 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: the outro of the song. You hear you hear this 208 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: in the background, that's meaing phone planet what it's a 209 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: keyboard with a microphone on it. I'm playing the notes 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: with a keyboard while singing the words. So that's you singing. 211 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: That's that. And then later on the song, I started 212 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 1: one night saying when I was sitting around working and 213 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: I started playing I started playing this singing that, which 214 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: that turned into Sam was like, hey, that's cool melody. 215 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that you know what if that was the the 216 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: riff of the song, you know, the hook of the song. 217 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: So we ended up doing what are you saying? Are 218 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: you saying are you in the lick or the vocoder? 219 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: In the vocoder? I was saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 220 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: that's crazy man, that's awesome. I wouldn't hear it broken down. 221 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: It's funny. I'm an idiot. I don't know what I'm doing. 222 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,080 Speaker 1: I didn't think this song should have a lick. I 223 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: didn't think it should have this. I'm an idiot. Sam 224 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: for months was going, hey, I think the song should 225 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: have a lick, and I thought it should just be 226 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: this hold on incredibly wrong. Uh, And he was like, 227 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, he was adamant about it should have a lick. 228 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: Thank goodness, he's way smarter than me, because you know, 229 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: without this thing right here, to me, that's the song. 230 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad he was forced me to put a lick 231 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: in there, because I was incredibly wrong saying it shouldn't 232 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: be in there. So when you start to lay the 233 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: vocals down, can you isolate vocals in that? So? Is 234 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: there is there a main Sam and is there Sam 235 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 1: doing with Sam? Or yeah, there's a there's a whole 236 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: bunch we always who you know, holler and you know, 237 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: make a bunch of noise. I'm not a big Engineers 238 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: would probably get mad at me because you know, I'm 239 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 1: not a big Like I have a TV on in 240 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: the room when we're recording, and most of the stuff 241 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: he's just holding a microphone, which you know usually want 242 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: to mount it and have it all proper. And you 243 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: know there's something about noise and chaos and and uh, 244 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: you know, just I guess the word is unprofessional engineering. 245 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: That makes it sounds it sounds like it fits this. 246 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,319 Speaker 1: It fits a lot of Sam's music and the stuff 247 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: we do. Sid got here right there, listen to side. 248 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: The noise coming behind got brazen. Their first time I've 249 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: seen a walk by by fellow. I had to get 250 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: her number, like six weeks now me and her go 251 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: way back, like yeah, so just I mean, you know, 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: if you're not an engineer, may not notice all the 253 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: noise in there, but you know we're down here hollering stuff. 254 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: It's just it's in the room. So that's happening a 255 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: round town. It makes it alive to me and Uh, 256 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: it's real. You can hear it on a lot of 257 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 1: his songs. I mean there's Leave an Eye on specifically, 258 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: there's just noise in the background, but it you know, 259 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: it works for his music. Some songs, you you know, uh, 260 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 1: take your time song, you don't need to be holler 261 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: and in the back of that song, it's a more 262 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: intimate thing. And but this song, it's such a loose song. 263 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: You know, imperfections are are I think a good thing 264 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: on this one. You hear that track again. Snaps or clasps, 265 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: those are it's a couple of things. It's a snap. 266 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: It has this thing and it's it's just a little 267 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: just a little who knows that's the name that doesn't 268 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: even need to be there. But in the chorus it 269 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: does other stuff, you know. At other sounds are those 270 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: anyone snaps? No, those are just some random sounds I 271 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: found on the internet at some point, you know, years ago. 272 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: Writers and producers, we have a good jillion sounds and 273 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: and an absurd amount of uh you know, yeah, that's 274 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: just one of the what about that song almost didn't 275 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: make it on the song you said to the leg 276 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: But what it was like at last minute, like Okay, 277 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: we should put this on it, but really defines it. 278 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: Uh that this was it's funny everything you're pointing out 279 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: or things Sam did, maybe my I don't need to 280 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: be in the room. Well, we were almost done. He 281 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: suggested to seem my computer forgive me if my computer 282 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: like pauses and he did this almost that little tag 283 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: right there, if I'm gonna take you slow. That wasn't 284 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: That was a eleventh hour. He was like, hey, I 285 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: think that last course should hold for a little bit, 286 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna take it slow, which to me, I 287 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: couldn't imagine the song without that part. That's such a 288 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: such a good payoff. And he suggested it again. I 289 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: did not and uh, but as soon as we did it, 290 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: we just you know, it felt right. What about the 291 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: huh huh? Who is that You're pointing out everything? That's 292 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 1: not my idea? This was all backfiring. No, it's funny. 293 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: I Uh. I was recording some stuff on this and 294 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: I was doing that percussive part let me find it body. 295 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: I was doing that that's been on like every rap 296 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: song over the past few years. I mean, it's just 297 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: it's that sound. But I was doing that specific part 298 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 1: with a tambourine, is what I was doing in Joshua Sale, 299 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: Sam's drummer, said hey, you should use that DJ Mustard 300 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: hey thing, and I was like, it's great, and uh 301 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: so I put it up. These are hosts all backfiring. 302 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: I wish I could say this was all mightia but 303 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: just but it's awesome in there? Is that Sam say 304 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 1: in his own harmonies? Uh? Some yes, some know a 305 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 1: lot of it's probably Josh Osborne, who we wrote this 306 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: song with, who's super duper talented and uh traveling. H 307 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 1: I think Josh or Sam ended up seeing a few 308 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 1: later on because Josh wasn't there. Oh yeah, right here 309 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 1: where we added that part if the and I'm gonna 310 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: take it slow fast as I can. I'm sick it slow. 311 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: So Sam just did that part because we added that. 312 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: Like I said in the eleventh Hour, Dan, it's so 313 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,480 Speaker 1: broken down. That's that's crazy. You brought all that. I 314 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: appreciate that. I think people will hear that song now 315 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: and appreciate how layered the simplicity is. It's crazy how 316 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: hard it is to this song was a task to do. 317 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: To me, It's funny because I and I talked about 318 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: that you can you can fold it now. Um. I 319 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: talked about that song as an example of the day 320 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: it came out, a lot of people were like, what 321 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: the heck is this? I was like, guys, you're gonna 322 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: be wrong, Like, you're gonna be wrong, Like, first of all, 323 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: look at the body of work that's been produced before this. Secondly, 324 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: I don't ever hear a song for the first time 325 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: and like it ever, because I'm just not conditioned to 326 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: hear something new. That's why people don't new music has 327 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: not loved it first. It takes time. And now it's 328 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: the biggest song. First of all, it's you be the 329 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: biggest song of the year. Um. Secondly, it's the only 330 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: song since I've been in Nashville and almost five years 331 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: now that it's start the crossing over and it's it's 332 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 1: not there yet but it's but it is going. It's 333 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: the first song to even go there. And it's almost 334 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,119 Speaker 1: impossible for men to cross over. It's always women except 335 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 1: for Rascal Flats, and they kind of sound like women. 336 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:46,360 Speaker 1: Absolutely necessarily because Carrie did it, Taylor did it, Leanne 337 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: Rhymes did it. If You Lady, Annabellum did it, and 338 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: that was a female driven song, you know whenever, So 339 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: for saying it's for so many reasons, it's weird that 340 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: Sam's doing it, and it's awesome. It's great, I mean, 341 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: and it's funny like Sam's not out there peddling the 342 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: song and hustling the song to to be a cross over. 343 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: You know, Sam's a just let's see what happens kind 344 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: of thing. Like you know, so Sam less country music 345 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: and and wants to be a country artist and is 346 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: happy where he is. So he's not you know, he's 347 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: definitely not out there begging for crossover spins. But also 348 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,720 Speaker 1: like that Sam doesn't care. Like that's what I like 349 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: about on the most, it's like Sam does Sam, and 350 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,479 Speaker 1: that's it. He's very happy and content just being at 351 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,199 Speaker 1: home with his wife and relaxing. It's it's you know, 352 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: he's the sweetest. It's he's totally genuine, and it's he's 353 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: not after money or fame or praise at all. He 354 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: just he's a songwriter. If you boil it all down, 355 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 1: he's a songwriter, um, and he just wants to continue 356 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: writing songs and and uh if he if he records them, 357 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: that's you know, you know, he's like I said, it's 358 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: a songwriter at the end of the day. 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But you know 385 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: that song I like, now, I was talking about this 386 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: morning on the air the New Dustin. This is a 387 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: really good song. That song. I didn't write that song. 388 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: I typically produce stuff I write, but it's produced so cool. 389 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 1: Thank you. This is when Dustin sent it to me. 390 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: Just some buddies with Dustin and he uh, It's like, hey, 391 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: what do you think about this song? You know? I 392 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,719 Speaker 1: was like, dude, I love it. I was like, I'm 393 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: about to be arrogant. I was like, but I think 394 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: I should produce that song. I was like, I don't 395 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: think anyone. I was like, that's kind of what I 396 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: naturally do. It has a little bit of an urban field. 397 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: It's you know, as an R and B tendant season. 398 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I kind of asked for 399 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: that job. Turned out it's turned out really cool. I'm 400 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: my favorite baseline on. I'm very proud of the synth 401 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: base I played on that for all the keyboard nerds 402 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: out there, very proud of it. How about this from 403 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: dustin you a side of these felt that it's awesome? 404 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: Another blessing? Tell me about this song? I wrote that 405 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: with Adam Sanders and Jared Boyer, and uh, that was 406 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: what not to not sound? It's it was a typical 407 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: national day to three days in a room making up 408 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 1: a song. Did you know those two guys already? I had, Yes, 409 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: I can't. It was. It was the only time we've 410 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: ever written together. But I can't remember if I've written 411 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: with him any time. It was early on if it 412 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: wasn't the first, and but it was great. Got quite 413 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: a few dust and track and even involved into where 414 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: that's my first number one song right here, So it 415 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: was that's that one's still get materialized, big deals. That's 416 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 1: your first metal huh, first one. See that's the thing too, 417 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: that's how quickly you've done all this body of work 418 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: has been that quick because that song hasn't been out 419 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: very long, a few years years. But I think it 420 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: comes from me spending fifteen years making terrible urban music. 421 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: So when I get the opportunity to this kind of stuff. 422 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, it caught up pretty quick. But you know, 423 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: I got in the room with great writers. And that's 424 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: not even like just being nice to be nice, but 425 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: it's like I was able to get into the big 426 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: leagues with the cool guys. And when you're around talented players, 427 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: you're you're statistically gonna win, you know, you know hopefully, 428 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: and uh, you Kevin duranted it. You're really good, but 429 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 1: you went to a team that was already really freaking good. 430 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 1: I've had, you know, my publishers and people who signed 431 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: me and the people who've been around me, uh, have 432 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: fought really hard early on to give me the rooms 433 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 1: to you know, give me the opportunity to prove myself. 434 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,880 Speaker 1: And you know, in the past year and a half, 435 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 1: have you just made so much money, like it more 436 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: than past year and happened the rest of your life combined? Sure, man, 437 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: I got just looking at it. I'm just looking at 438 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: this here, and I'm like, but like five years ago, 439 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: I was making fifteen thousand dollars a year. Like literally, 440 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you've been rich. I'm saying the last 441 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: year and a half it had to be like get 442 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: a very good thing. I have a wife and two kids, 443 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,919 Speaker 1: and uh, my wife should stay at my mom you know, 444 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: praised Jesus for that, because that's amazing that, you know, 445 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: I've worked. I have a studio at my house. I'm 446 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: down there writing with friends of mine, and my wife 447 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 1: and kids are upstairs. I got here on my see 448 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: them all day. It's it's literally the dream, you know. 449 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: I couldn't and to be you know paid, you know, 450 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: money is also being paid, money being paid money is 451 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,640 Speaker 1: not all right, zacch let me, let's try this one. 452 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: And they one it was a good day. That was 453 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: I wrote that with Ashley Gorley and uh Cole Swindele 454 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,199 Speaker 1: and uh, that was one. We were actually writing another 455 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: song that day. We were writing a song called Kiss 456 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: that he actually ended up putting on a EP of 457 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: his But we're writing that song. And then in the 458 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: middle of the second verse, given a full story, I 459 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: left the room. Everything awesome happens when I leave. Sam 460 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: has the ideas I left the room, I come back 461 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: in and they had written to say converse and it 462 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: had a line in it said in the middle of 463 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: a melody, and I go, hey, I like that line. 464 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Misunderstood him said, Hey, I like that line right there 465 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 1: in the middle of a memory line. And when I 466 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: said when I misheard them, Ashley and Cole kind of 467 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: looked at each other and had the kind of the 468 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,600 Speaker 1: aha moment they go middle of a memory. So that's 469 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: they paused the song. We were working on the kiss 470 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: song and we stopped wrote this middle of a memory. 471 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,239 Speaker 1: How quick did that fall out? Since it was kind 472 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: of one of those just a few hours Ashley and 473 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: Cole is you know, a hit separate of his being 474 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: a country star. He's a hit songwriter and fully capable, 475 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: you know everybody, so it came out quickly. Teammates, man, 476 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: do you have good people in the room? Good teammates man? 477 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question and I don't know 478 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: the answer to this, and this is one of those 479 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: and you may just stay away from it because you're 480 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: close to it. So first let's talk about Sam a 481 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: cop car and then Urban Got This is what I 482 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: remember my head Urban Got It played it on an 483 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: award show and say I tweeted something about this song. 484 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 1: It's Sam not want that song to go away? Did 485 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: want to keep it? Sam wanted to keep the song 486 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: for himself. That makes sense, which I totally get. But 487 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 1: who does that? Who gives it away his publisher At 488 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: the end of the day, at that time, we're all 489 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: new writers, young writers, and we're involved in publishing deals 490 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: that at that time we technically don't have the rights 491 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: to those songs, where the writers technically we don't have 492 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: the rights. And even though you say I want to 493 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: keep it, they have the rights and they say no, no, 494 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: we're going to give it. And it only it only 495 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 1: takes if you know, three people in real it just 496 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: takes one of the one of the people to say 497 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: he can have it, you know what. Yeah, but it's 498 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: I mean that song changed my life and that was that. 499 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm taking it. You aren't the one. What did that said? 500 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: Somebody else can have it? No? I wanted Keith to 501 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean I produced it on Keip. I was all 502 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: for it. I was, you know, So why so with 503 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: Sam up said, I don't remember, just wanted to keep 504 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: the song for himself. It's his song, it's his story 505 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 1: that happened to him. Um, that's crazy to me. You know, 506 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: I told him and he and I were you know, 507 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: did you guys get into it because of that? We 508 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: didn't get into it so funny. It was early on, 509 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: uh with he and I had known him for probably 510 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: six months, but he and I have always clicked, you know, 511 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: from the get go. And even though we disagreed, his 512 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: vote was for to keep the song for himself. And 513 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,920 Speaker 1: at that time he was an aspiring artist, you know, 514 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: there was it was still I get I get it 515 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: urban too, So I didn't want an established artist him. 516 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,679 Speaker 1: I gotta eat. I got two kids, you know. He 517 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to convince him, and people are trying 518 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: to convince him, and and uh but Sam, you know, 519 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: when he knows what he wants, he's die hard for that. 520 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: And I told him, I was like, man, we kind 521 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: of left it as hey, if I because Keith had 522 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 1: asked me to produce it, which is ridiculous and unbelievable 523 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: and and such a huge opportunity. And Sam and I 524 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,440 Speaker 1: left it. We were totally cordial, and it actually made 525 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: us closer because we were able to kind of go 526 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: through and experience together, go through a disagreement together. And uh, 527 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: but he you know, we left it as hey, if 528 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: I get the ball, I'm gonna shoot it. If you 529 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: get the ball, you shoot it. So if it's my decision. 530 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm on a go produce it on Keith and take 531 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: that opportunity, and you know, if it comes down to 532 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 1: beat Sam's decision. But you know, you know, thankfully it 533 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: all worked out, and you know, it was a as 534 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: a monster hit, and that was the song that changed everything. 535 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: At that time, I'm dead, broke, my wife's pregnant, I'm 536 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: literally about to lose my publishing deal, a month away 537 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: from my publish deal being done, and uh so, you know, 538 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: whether you know the desperation or not, it was. It's 539 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 1: a legit opportunity and a and a big thing. And 540 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,199 Speaker 1: you know, it made Sam and I closer and I 541 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: admire the crap out of him for, you know, being 542 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 1: a no name, broke guy who's still wants to hold 543 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: on to a song. I was respecting for it. It's 544 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: it's a you know, was it weird to produce that song? 545 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: It was weird just because working with Keith. But as 546 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: far as Sam, and I mean Sam was to the 547 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: whole thing. He was I knew I was doing it 548 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: and I was playing inversions. That was where he was. Fully, 549 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, he let it go with that. He was like, okay, 550 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, with Keith because he I've seen Keith in 551 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: studio settings just around, like nothing to do with no 552 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: microphones around. A human said, his brain works on this 553 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: level that I can't comprehend what's happening. He's truly, he's 554 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: a true musician. I'm not a true musician. I worked 555 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: my way up. He just is music, you know what 556 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: I mean. Like I don't have the talent he has. 557 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: I have a work ethic, and I can study and 558 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: practice and get to where I can compete. But I'm not. 559 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Some people are just Stevie wonder just is music. Is 560 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: it tough for you and Keith be on the same 561 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: be in the same spot. You're coming from two totally 562 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: different places. He didn't. I mean that was my first thing. 563 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: I was terrified through the whole process. I'm the guy 564 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 1: who you know isn't supposed to be there, you know. 565 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: So but he was great, you know, he he made 566 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: me feel confident. For him to give me to hire 567 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: me to produce, you know, such a high profile song. 568 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,480 Speaker 1: It shows that he has faith in me and the demo. Luckily, 569 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: the demo was like close anyway, so there wasn't It 570 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: was already like headed in the right direction, So there wasn't. 571 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't think I could totally blow it. He would 572 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 1: step in if I was ruining the song, you know, 573 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 1: and uh, but no, he he's a professional. He you know, 574 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: encouraged me and you know, kept me motivated. I want 575 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: to play some of these demos because I love that 576 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: you brought these demos. So how about your first number 577 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: one where it's at with Dustin. We'll go back there 578 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: for a second, so we know this. Now here's the 579 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: demo of the same song where you cut this? You know, 580 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: just my house? Yea, who's singing it? It's Matt Jenkins. 581 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: I wrote with Matt Jenkins and Carry Barlow, and so 582 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 1: Matt Jenkins singing are It ain't in a higrass looking 583 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: for a good time, shutting damn city lacks. It ain't 584 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,760 Speaker 1: in the water floating like a barber soaking up that 585 00:30:55,880 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: hot sunsht. It's good, very weird. It's a why doesn't 586 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 1: a guy like that do records? Well, he had a 587 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: record deal. He's a that's guy's good. He's one of 588 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,360 Speaker 1: my closest friends, so I can say he was a 589 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: failed country music superstar. No, he was great. He had 590 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: a deal on Universal or something or whatever. Yeah, he was. 591 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: So if you're producing demos though, like, that's gotta be 592 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: a weird thing for you too, because you produced real songs. 593 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: Like how much do you put into a demo? Because 594 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: you just you stop sooner. You you spend a few hours, 595 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: half a day, you know that one. Carrie Barlow, the 596 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: other writer, you know, he played a lot of the 597 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: guitar and we all just kind of play it ourselves 598 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: and you just you just you get it. You spend 599 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: enough time. You learned not to spend too much time. 600 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: I want to go to church bells, which we know 601 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: from Carrie us I tell me about this song before 602 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: I played the demo, that song. I'm proud of that song, 603 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: proud of all of them, but that one in particular, 604 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: that was the first. In the songwriting comedyy, I'm I'm 605 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: labeled in the track guy category. I'm the guy who 606 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: makes the music, who makes the beats. Uh. At times, 607 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm stereotyped into that, and some people would interpret that 608 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: as I'm not the lyrical mind and uh, and I've 609 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 1: always struggled with that. I've always struggled with people thinking 610 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't write lyrics and melodies and because I do, 611 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: and I you know, you know, whether they're good or bad, 612 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's the first song where it 613 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: was I had the title. I had the idea. Actually, 614 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: remember before I wrote it, I had the title church Bells. 615 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: And I was like, man, that would be a good 616 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: character Wood song if you wrote it like this and 617 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: did it like this. And I called my publisher mentor, 618 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 1: Ashley Gorley, who's a big, you know, mega writer here 619 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: in town, and uh. I was talking to him and 620 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: and uh It's like, hey, man, I got this idea, 621 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: this song called being an idea called church Bells, and uh, 622 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: be Karen, what you can do it like this? And 623 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: and I was like, what do you think about that? 624 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: And he was that's cool. I was like, I saw 625 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: my calendar that in a month I have was writing 626 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: with Hillary Lindsay and Brett James and they've written a 627 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: bunch of Carrenderwood stuff. They're kind of they're the people 628 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: to write caring too what stuff. And I called ash 629 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I was like, do you think 630 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: it's smart of me to hold onto this idea? Don't 631 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: write it with all the other people I'm writing with 632 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: over the next month and save it for this one. 633 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 1: Day coming up for Hillary and Brett. He's like, I 634 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: think you should do that. It's a good idea. And 635 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: I made some music and Hillary and Brett walk in 636 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: the room and I play on the music and I 637 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: was like, I got this idea called church bells. I 638 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: think you should be like this. And you know, at 639 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: that point, I'm kind of handing it over to them. 640 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: What do you like? Now? You guys do what you do, 641 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: and you know, then Hillary Lindsay, who's you know written 642 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 1: most carry Underwood songs and they, you know, they just 643 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: did their thing. But that's not I'm proud of that 644 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: one because that's the first time that was that was 645 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: the first time where I had ever done that where 646 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: I had been the uh, the idea guy, and I 647 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: was proud, was proud of that, and still I'm proud 648 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,960 Speaker 1: of that. Hillary Lindsay, who, by the way, it's one 649 00:33:53,960 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: of the best singers and she's grew up, would like 650 00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: a blackfoot daisy out in the shack with the bloottick. 651 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: Hewn broke it as hill but blessed with beauty the 652 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: kind of a rich man can't turn them. She coughed 653 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: the eye of an oil man. Dancing with some night 654 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: in the downstore jet she had. When you get into 655 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: it right like that and you're going with your idea 656 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 1: that you've been holding for a month, are you worried 657 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna be like, I don't like that, Let's go 658 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: to something else. I mean, yeah, but you know, because 659 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: I say, that wasn't the one idea I've ever had. 660 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: I've had hundreds of Like you've targeted that date with 661 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: those people? What if you do win a andy? Like? 662 00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, but I had this idea and you're kind 663 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: of like, oh man, that's one of those you know, 664 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: that just is what it is. That's that happens all 665 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: the time. It's just part of the game. You know. 666 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes you get your feelings hurt, and sometimes it's you know, 667 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, it's usually best idea wins. And you know, 668 00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm happy that they jumped on board dirty Laundry. Thank you? 669 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: Who's singing the hymn on this one? Hillary Lindsay Again. 670 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: I wrote with Hillary in actually there sick on your colo, 671 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 1: ain't my shade of pain? And I can tell about 672 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: the smelling that perfume side forty dollars too cheap and 673 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: there's a little one stain on the pocket of your 674 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: white cotton thing. Will you drink being whiskey boy? And 675 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: you know, don't drinkin send it over in the corner, 676 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: wat it up on the bedroom floor. He should have 677 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: hit it in the closet. He should have burned it, 678 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: he should have lost it. That's so cool man. And 679 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,439 Speaker 1: Hillary is so good and that's like who can sing 680 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: with Hillary? Carry can? She's Hillary is the best? Like like, yeah, 681 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: Hilly went on because Hillary and Gaga did you know 682 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: together at charts? I don't see Hllary on TV singing 683 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,959 Speaker 1: with La. Hillary is still someone who I get nerve 684 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: this to write with and nervously. She's just She's truly good. 685 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: She's a true soulwriter. Billy currct Do I make you 686 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: want to send me down to? Could you? Could you 687 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: write this? With grog? With Ashley Gorley, Matt Jenkins and 688 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: Jerry Flowers. Jerry Flowers is a writer plays bass with 689 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: Keith Urban. Yeah, Sam stuff together and yeah, so here's 690 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: do I make you wanted that? Who's singing the demo Ashley? 691 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: Which is funny typically not the singer, but he sounds 692 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: spectacular of so Ashley Gorley singing the demo? Do I 693 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: make you want to excuse it? Maybe would song you mad? 694 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: Will you see me pull litoping your kid? Do you 695 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: want to go downtown? Maybe have a little high a 696 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: little why do you want to go out to the 697 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: country and maybe blew all the money all for sugar 698 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 1: at the truck's time and subscritch off. See if we 699 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: can get lucky. Oh, I gotta know what's going on. 700 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,520 Speaker 1: And your beauty and baby don't be shut and see 701 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: me Now? All your demo sound like legit songs. That's 702 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: the weird thing. Yeah, obvious. I did a writer dun 703 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: with Ashley once. It was me, Ashley de Stefano, and 704 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: Lee Miller and talking about which one doesn't fit the 705 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,800 Speaker 1: radio guy. Yeah, I'm up there with a guitar playing 706 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 1: funny songs that I wrote and they're playing They're all 707 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: singing number ones. They're going have you done it again? 708 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 1: Or was that the that the unders? That's not my scene, 709 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: but it was I was. They asked me to do it, 710 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, you know, I can play 711 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: guitar a little bit, I can sing some dope songs, 712 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:43,279 Speaker 1: and so I'm not a big round writers round guy. 713 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: Just recently did my first one because I've always said 714 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: no to woman, I'm not a singer and barely a player. 715 00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: I play a computer. Really well, that's my instrument, that's 716 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: that's the that's my tool and uh so I'm like man, 717 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: sitting on stage and singing in front of people was 718 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: like a nightmare to me, and I just did it 719 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: recently for the first time. You did your first one 720 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: who Are You? With Ashley, Matt and Jerry, the guys 721 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: we wrote that like they're all my closest writer friends, 722 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: and I was like, if I'm gonna be up there, 723 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: if I'm gonna be terrified, I'm gonna pee my pants. 724 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: I felt like I want to do the people who 725 00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: have my back if if I sucked, yeah, but it 726 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,840 Speaker 1: went great, Like I you know it, I realized the 727 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 1: imperfections are the good things. And saying, you know, no 728 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: one's there for me to, you know, serenade them. I'm 729 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:23,880 Speaker 1: there there there to hear the songs in the stories 730 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: and stuff. So what do you play when you do 731 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: itund around like if you're doing four now, if you're 732 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: doing four songs, that what will you play? You have 733 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: a lot of songs. It depends on probably who I'm 734 00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: writing or who I'm doing it with like that one. 735 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: Like I've written songs like I wrote cop Car with 736 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: Matt Jenkins and Sam and Matt did cop Car that night. 737 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: And I wrote house Party with Jerry Flowers, so he 738 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: did house Party. So I did songs with people. I 739 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 1: think some of the ones that I haven't the people 740 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,399 Speaker 1: that weren't up there, so we weren't overlapping. I can't 741 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: remember what songs that I did. A couple of Sam 742 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: songs and uh, I think he did a carry song 743 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: and didn't the middle of remember that Coldsmindale song. He 744 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,640 Speaker 1: did a carry song. He sing car, No, did Heartbeat? 745 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: I did that one. I did the easiest one to sing. 746 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe they were easy to 747 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,480 Speaker 1: sing that. I was shocked because I'm not a singer. 748 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: When I was sitting there, you know, on my couch 749 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: for months trying to practice like a nerd, I was 750 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 1: trying to learn church bills and I'm trying to learn 751 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: dirty laundry, and I feel like an idiot. I never 752 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: realized how hard they were to sing, and I physically 753 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: just can't get to those high notes. And so I said, 754 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: this is the less range e of songs. So you 755 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,920 Speaker 1: picked that one day, like literally out of out of insecurity. 756 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,240 Speaker 1: Here's that who's singing the demo? Here, Carrie? I wrote 757 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: this army with Carrion. Actually, so she sang the demo. 758 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 1: You know, when she's singing the demo, it's probably not 759 00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 1: big because it's the same in her vocal spectacular party 760 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: in a downtown crowd. But I can't hear you call 761 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:08,080 Speaker 1: me baby with the music times, isn't she I've compared 762 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: to an alien before because I've been looking enough to 763 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: sing with her, like do a duet with her and 764 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: sing on stage at the rhyme Wasna and it was 765 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: just like she opens her mouth and it's like that 766 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: shouldn't come out of that. God loves her a little 767 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 1: more than me, And yeah, that's that's not a lot 768 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: a lot more. No, she's just in that camp like 769 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160 Speaker 1: when they, you know, asked me to be around and 770 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: write with her and produce with her like that, you know, 771 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: to come up with Sam is one thing. We were 772 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: no name dudes together. He's and we're in the same 773 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: class of people and you know, refreshment together. Carrie. You know, 774 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: she's royalty, she's you know, not even just sucking up 775 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: to her, she's, you know, the queen. And so when 776 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 1: they asked me to write with her and produce some 777 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000 Speaker 1: songs that you know, it was you know, freaking out, 778 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: like her manager and able Boot called me and she's like, hey, 779 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: would you if you know, would you want to produce 780 00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: heartbeat precaring. I'm like, you know, yes, like she could 781 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: yell at me and tell me to do it, you know, 782 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: but they're asking politely, would you be interested in like, 783 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, crying on the other you know, of course, 784 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,759 Speaker 1: you know. I did this you know, dope song with her, 785 00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: and she came in the studio and sing it with me, 786 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: and I just watched her and again i'd sing with 787 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 1: her live. But then I watched her going to a 788 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: studio where everything's amplified, like all your perfections are amplified 789 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: because you're hearing it. There was nothing imperfect. She did 790 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: like three takes. She's like, let me do again. I 791 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: was like, no, you're She's a truly good singer, like 792 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: she's on earth too, singing to us like it's it's 793 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: her and she's like one ft tall and somehow that 794 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: strength comes out. Yes, it's crazy. She had to Blue Apron. 795 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: Let me talk about Blue Apron for second. So Blue 796 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,680 Speaker 1: Apron man. First of all, the mills are great, and 797 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 1: it's convenient because it come right to your house, and 798 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: it's COMMUNI could have a like an instruction guy, basically 799 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: a card that tells you how to make them, and 800 00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: it's affordable. Blue Apron with less than ten dollars per 801 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: person per mill. Blue Apron deliverers. First of all, the 802 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: dress fees that I don't even know exist unless I 803 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: went to a restaurant looked am in you. 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I had that hook like I 823 00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:02,439 Speaker 1: sold that course. I feel Jelly roll seven days. Jelly says, 824 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: you're doing the hook. Yeah, right, so you made that, dude. 825 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,760 Speaker 1: I'm like to the death end. But that song sounds 826 00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: good like I love hip hop, and I even I 827 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,160 Speaker 1: had a record deal. I hip hop Baraka for one. 828 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,760 Speaker 1: I've heard you say that I've never heard of Captain Collucasians. 829 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: I haven't. We've been thinking about it. It was it 830 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: silly or was it like? It was it? No, it's 831 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 1: my name was Captain Caucasian. It was silly, but I 832 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: try it a little bit, but not really afraid to commit. 833 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,400 Speaker 1: There's another commitment thing. It's another commitment thing because I 834 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: don't want people to not really wasn't that good, But 835 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,280 Speaker 1: I was just good enough to fake it. So yeah, 836 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,200 Speaker 1: so we were making it. We may beat that. That 837 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: should be a passion project. You make you get make 838 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: Captain Caucasian a hit that that way, you know you 839 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: made it in town. Okay, here we go. This is 840 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: you about to make a killing. Put it never feels fulfilling. 841 00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: So they called it's a big one. He's a Christian rapper, right, Huh, 842 00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:08,280 Speaker 1: that's the That was the first legitimate thing. That's a rapper, lacraz. 843 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: That's the first legit thing I ever did. And I 844 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: want to Grammy for that. What did you do? I wrote? 845 00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: My buddy, might I call him Mike Valentine's name is 846 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: Michael Jefferson, the guy singing that chorus right there. He 847 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: was a writer out in l A that I knew 848 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,440 Speaker 1: when we wrote that. And we wrote that song in 849 00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: his apartment in l A somewhere. I couldn't tell you 850 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: where the apartment is, but we wrote that. We had 851 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: a whole version, whole chorus, the whole song, and we 852 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680 Speaker 1: wrote it one night and myke Valentine sent it to 853 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: La Craze A and R person and uh, they loved 854 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 1: it and loved the chorus. And I sent him the 855 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: pro tools file and that's about it. And he laid 856 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: it down and lay it down apparently want a Grammy. 857 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,480 Speaker 1: It was. It was a huge opportunity, but it was 858 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 1: a lot of email. What we were in the you know, 859 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: a lot of i'll Cindia files and you know, it's 860 00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 1: not like we're in a room vibe being out together 861 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,960 Speaker 1: kind of thing. Music. When you hear it back the 862 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: first time, are you like, Okay, that's good. I like it. 863 00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: Kind of weird because you weren't together. No, I love 864 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: it like Locraiz is huge. You know, it's a huge 865 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: Christian rapper. And uh so when he was, you know, 866 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: taking it, I knew it was in good hands, you know, trusted. 867 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:32,920 Speaker 1: How about so I'm coming. That was my first single 868 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 1: on a big act right there, because my first first 869 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 1: country song of it might ever heard on the radio? Yeah, 870 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,920 Speaker 1: the first song you ever heard of the radio, Scott mccury. 871 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,400 Speaker 1: It was the first country song. I had plenty of 872 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: other for a country song. I mean, Scott's country isn't good. 873 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: I was laying on my couch. My publisher, Kimmy Flynn 874 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: called me to turn on the radio and I ran 875 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 1: to the bathroom where we had a little radio and 876 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:02,279 Speaker 1: uh turn it on and stood in the bathroom and 877 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: listen to the sky. Do you're making money off that song? Yeah? Okay, 878 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: so you made you make good money off the levels 879 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: are money check wise, you see a significant difference in 880 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,840 Speaker 1: ten and five? Uh? Yeah, do you see a significant 881 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: difference in three and one? I don't think it's about 882 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: the same at that point. It depends on how long 883 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,120 Speaker 1: it stays at three. If it's a three for a 884 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 1: day and then dies, you know, but if it's at 885 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: three for a couple of weeks, it's you know, it's 886 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,719 Speaker 1: these are all they're all good problems. Have you made 887 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: more off body like a background not than any other song? 888 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: Because you may not have yet because the song hasn't 889 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,359 Speaker 1: been out that long yet. Okay, it takes takes one. 890 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,279 Speaker 1: They say it takes about nine months for I can't 891 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,960 Speaker 1: wait for those checks that are coming in. Are you 892 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,680 Speaker 1: kidding me? They say it's the first one that people 893 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 1: always say, they say, it's the last nine months of poverty. Uh, 894 00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,680 Speaker 1: you know, because you'll have a hit song on the radio, 895 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: but you're dead broke, you know, just because you're waiting 896 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: for the you know, the money to go between you. 897 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: So that check hasn't come yet, no, but man, that's 898 00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,759 Speaker 1: gonna be there. So it is the first one. It's 899 00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 1: the first one small though, because it eases its way up. 900 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: It's kind of relative to where the chart is. And 901 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: you can if you looked at it on like a 902 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: graph or something, a pie chart or something that you 903 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: would you see it kind of peeking and you know, 904 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: because obviously you make more the more times it's played 905 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: and does it. It's streaming irritate the crap out of 906 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: you because you're not making money. And I love it 907 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:28,640 Speaker 1: like like I love it, Like sure, we don't make 908 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: a ton of money yet, but there's no way that 909 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: we don't. Who knows. I might be long gone by 910 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: the time it comes around. But they're gonna figure out. 911 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: They're gonna have to figure it out. They have they 912 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,600 Speaker 1: have to figure it out because I make decent money 913 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:44,240 Speaker 1: as a producer on the So there, there's there's money. 914 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 1: It's going to get figured out. I'm honestly not worried 915 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: about it. Luckily, there's still plenty of money to be 916 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 1: made off of radio and sales. There's still money. It's 917 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,239 Speaker 1: not like streaming is the only source of income. At 918 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:59,360 Speaker 1: this point it will eventually probably be the only source 919 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: of income. But right now, how luckily we're still all 920 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 1: doing well. Jesse Alexander was in and she was talking 921 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 1: about how she makes more money from singing backup streaming 922 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 1: than the songs she wrote, because she has a better deal. 923 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,720 Speaker 1: There's a better deal for the people that are singing 924 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 1: I mean literally off of by like a back road, 925 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: and it's probably streaming the you know, hundred million times, 926 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: you know, you know, hundreds of millions of times, and 927 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: you will make a thousand dollars or something, which is crazy, 928 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: and it will fix itself because it will have to 929 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,919 Speaker 1: fix it. So I think it's so ridiculous, Like there's 930 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: no one who who you can't make the argument for. 931 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,719 Speaker 1: You know, so at some point whenever whoever is in 932 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,040 Speaker 1: charge of that stuff, See, here's someone agreed to it. 933 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 1: At some point, someone signed some sort of thing at 934 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: some point saying it's a big deal if only seven 935 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,480 Speaker 1: people are doing it, like it's not. Someone agreed to it, 936 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:51,399 Speaker 1: So you know, slap that guy and and uh, but 937 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,080 Speaker 1: you know it'll get figured out. There's people, you know, 938 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: Lee Miller here in town, who's his life is devoted 939 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799 Speaker 1: to that now and and I'm grateful that he's doing that. 940 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,440 Speaker 1: You know, which one of these samslungs fell out the quickest. 941 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of like because you know you're talking 942 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: about you know, with Sammy, he spends a lot of 943 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: time the same thing. Sam is slow. He slow, he 944 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: cares like it's not like a because he's dumb. He 945 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:21,480 Speaker 1: he he puts the puzzle on the table and he 946 00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 1: tries every single piece in the one. So he tries 947 00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: every rhyme if you're trying to rhyd chair. He tried 948 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: rise every single thing just to see in what emotions 949 00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: it feels. And Sam's very intelligent and you know, he's 950 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: always thinking, always referred to it. He goes way deeper 951 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: in the cave than I do. Like I go a 952 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: hundred feet in the cave, and he goes five miles 953 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: into the cave and he's down there just you know, 954 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,440 Speaker 1: exploring the songs there. So it you know, takes him 955 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 1: a while. When you go that far, it's gonna take 956 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: you a while to get in and out of it, 957 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,920 Speaker 1: you know. But so that I would say house party 958 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,560 Speaker 1: was the absolutely the quickest it took. That was just 959 00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: a couple of day right, and the sam world. That's 960 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 1: a couple of day right, Well, break that box out up. 961 00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: The first single was Late the Night on right. When 962 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: that comes out, are you like, okay, we might have 963 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: something here. Yeah, it's funny as soon as because we 964 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: pretty much had that record done before he had a 965 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: record deal. We pretty much just made it on our own. 966 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: So we went into the label kind of saying, hey, 967 00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,239 Speaker 1: we had a week. That label has been really good 968 00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,680 Speaker 1: to us. Man. They we came in with a plan 969 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 1: and they let us do that plan. And so we 970 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: come in with a record and we're thinking we should 971 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,959 Speaker 1: put out this and we should put this in this order. 972 00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 1: As crazy as some of the songs have been, they've 973 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,719 Speaker 1: let us do it and they just you know, yeah, yeah, 974 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,320 Speaker 1: they It's kind of the dream scenario. Like I literally 975 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,080 Speaker 1: can't think of one time where we wanted to do 976 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: something and we're adamant about it and they said no. 977 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:58,080 Speaker 1: That you know, they've embraced us because they know that 978 00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: we're trying really hard and that you know it's every 979 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,919 Speaker 1: move is intentional, and uh that we care. So it's 980 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: been good. So here's one of your singles. This is 981 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: Lindsay l Shut Me Up. Give me that demo. That's 982 00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: when I wrote with Hillary Lindsay and Brett jameson people 983 00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:22,959 Speaker 1: wrote church bills. It sounds great. Yeah, I just moved 984 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,600 Speaker 1: her town. I don't even know her. Hell yeah, I 985 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 1: didn't know Lindsay at this point. I've met her around this. 986 00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 1: She's super duper sweet man. She's she's that I can't 987 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,600 Speaker 1: agree with now. At the time, I had no idea. 988 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,440 Speaker 1: I had wrote a few songs on her, and she's great, Like, 989 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: she's you know, she's super duper talented, ma'am. She's you know, 990 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,239 Speaker 1: she keeps plugging away if she wouldn't. These relationships in trouble. Dude, 991 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: I love you got I'm got the punch seven seven 992 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: days on a week. I've been looking forward from me. 993 00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to find a list somehere I can think, 994 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 1: even trip and keep a secret. Baby's good. He's doing great, 995 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,080 Speaker 1: don't you know? He's around town? Like surprised, you don't know. 996 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,839 Speaker 1: I don't know anybody. I don't know. I don't use 997 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 1: the word literally. I literally know so many fewer people 998 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:18,719 Speaker 1: that I'm thinking. People think I know because I just 999 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: stay at my house and I go on the road. General, 1000 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: someone you should know. His stuff is getting bigger and 1001 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: bigger and bigger every day, and and uh yeah, he's 1002 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,759 Speaker 1: someone you should you should know. He's really good. Who's camp? Okay, 1003 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: you have to what whose camps are you in? Everybody's 1004 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,760 Speaker 1: in camp? You in the Dustin camp? Would you say? Absolutely? 1005 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: Are you in the carry camp? I get so nervous 1006 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:41,640 Speaker 1: even say that. I think so, yeah, yeah, you're in 1007 00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: the sad camp because you guys have been together forever. 1008 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: What any other camps? Uh? Where It's like we're starting 1009 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,880 Speaker 1: new project. We gotta get all hands on deck. Who 1010 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: would call you and say, hey, Dustin asked me for 1011 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,760 Speaker 1: my opinion? And you know, Sam, you know of course. 1012 00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,399 Speaker 1: And I think other people who like asked me. I mean, 1013 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,520 Speaker 1: Nashville such a small community. We all right together. I'm 1014 00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:06,800 Speaker 1: cold and I've been texting all day, did cold cold 1015 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,600 Speaker 1: and stuff? I'm not in his We write together, but 1016 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,319 Speaker 1: he's not like asking me what tours he should go 1017 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,200 Speaker 1: on and stuff. But he's some you know, he's I 1018 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,640 Speaker 1: would consider him a friend. You're right today, I did 1019 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: not write today. I had meetings today. What kind of 1020 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: meetings do you have? Like? What are they about? Had 1021 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: a meeting? How to spend your new boat money cheap man. 1022 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 1: I was broke for way too long, so so every 1023 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,759 Speaker 1: time I make goes to securing my future. I don't. 1024 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: I drive a two thousand twelve cameras, so I'm not 1025 00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm not a blow in cash kind of dude. But 1026 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: what means that I had a meeting with that I'm 1027 00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: putting on a charity event. It's gonna be awesome. And 1028 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: U H had a meeting with my business people about money, 1029 00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,880 Speaker 1: like what to do with all of it? Do you 1030 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,640 Speaker 1: want the pink boat? Let's think about I think pink 1031 00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,879 Speaker 1: in the green one such I mean, when you're broke 1032 00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:58,879 Speaker 1: for so long. I'm a thirty six. I didn't start 1033 00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:03,359 Speaker 1: making any at struck money until I mean four years ago. 1034 00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: I mean I was, you know, two broke. It feels 1035 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: like because listen, you're talking about something else you grew 1036 00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:10,839 Speaker 1: up broke. It always feels I can go away. Just see. 1037 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,719 Speaker 1: I'm scared of that, just like that. It's scared. I 1038 00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:14,759 Speaker 1: overpaid my bills forever because I was scared if I 1039 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 1: got fired. I would just want to just talk to 1040 00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 1: my business manager. They're they're paying extra a mortgages just 1041 00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:23,960 Speaker 1: to do it. You know, just because this is all impossible, 1042 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: This is all climbing a huge mountain, you know, and 1043 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,520 Speaker 1: to expect to do it again is a little ridiculous, 1044 00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,400 Speaker 1: you know. So you know it's a huge blessing. But 1045 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm definitely I'm definitely that guy who's like, it's my 1046 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 1: bad man. I had a good run with by, like 1047 00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,560 Speaker 1: a background with Sam. I'm talking about, dude, iver gonna 1048 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,440 Speaker 1: beat that. One thing is you're probably not, No, That's 1049 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: what see. I come down to the logic. I'm like, 1050 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: statistically touch that just playing the stats here, ted waves 1051 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: like a bad one time was a great hit or 1052 00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,520 Speaker 1: many years after that exactly so, but that's what you know, 1053 00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: that's the I was broke for a long time, you know, 1054 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:07,480 Speaker 1: but anymore anymore. I'm proud of that. I'm proud of it, 1055 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: but I'm proud of for me and I had nothing 1056 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: to do with it. It's such a silly song. Isn't 1057 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,959 Speaker 1: working so well? I don't think it's a silly song. 1058 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:18,520 Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a song. Here's the thing 1059 00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,560 Speaker 1: about Sam, as someone who doesn't I don't write with Sam, 1060 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:24,720 Speaker 1: so I felt like I talked about it from Outsider 1061 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: perspective of his lyrics. Sam talks like an like a 1062 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,279 Speaker 1: human talk, and sometimes it's awkward, but that's why it 1063 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: cuts through. He says things like blah blah or whatever. 1064 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: He says that, you know, and you're like, what, oh 1065 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: that that sounds abnormal in a song, But then all 1066 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're like, but that's how I talk. 1067 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,000 Speaker 1: He's singing songs that, yeah, he would actually say, these 1068 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,879 Speaker 1: are roll and that's why that thing works, and that's 1069 00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 1: why his songs. If I have anything to think of 1070 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: why Sam and I work well together, it's we probably 1071 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,960 Speaker 1: spend more time talking in my studio, just on the couch, 1072 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,800 Speaker 1: just talking to each other about life and our wives 1073 00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,960 Speaker 1: and our faith, and we talk about all that stuff. 1074 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: So when it comes to write a song, we know 1075 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:09,440 Speaker 1: how we you know how to speak. You know, we're 1076 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,480 Speaker 1: not just you know Sam singing. From his perspective, he's 1077 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,719 Speaker 1: not playing a character like it's these are all honest things. 1078 00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,120 Speaker 1: These are about as silly as some of them. Maybe 1079 00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: they're about real life things and real life emotions. Like 1080 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, he's not just making this stuff up like 1081 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,400 Speaker 1: it's it's coming from somewhere. What's the one I just 1082 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:26,040 Speaker 1: played a bunch of this stuff. What's the one where 1083 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: you're like that probably I can't believe that's the one 1084 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,919 Speaker 1: that actually blew up break Up in a small town. 1085 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: I still giggle when I hear that on the radio. 1086 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: That's such a jam. It's pretty extreme. Yeah, that's one 1087 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,880 Speaker 1: where I'm like, it's a little I'm like, who do 1088 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: we think we are to think we can play that, 1089 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,320 Speaker 1: we can get that on the radio, because you know, 1090 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,640 Speaker 1: we wrote that We're dead, broke, no name, dudes, just 1091 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,560 Speaker 1: going I wonder if we can get this on it, 1092 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,480 Speaker 1: this will be you know, and because that's pretty extreme, 1093 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: like like we're not over here thinking, but extreme things 1094 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,560 Speaker 1: make things normal. That's at the end of the day. 1095 00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,920 Speaker 1: That song specifically is what I like to do with Salmon. 1096 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 1: I like to do. It has a whole bunch of 1097 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: elements to it. It's, you know, from the big drop 1098 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 1: to the dramatic first to the urban kind of thing. 1099 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: It's it's a little, uh greatest hits kind of to me. 1100 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 1: One of my best friends is friends in radio and 1101 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,520 Speaker 1: in real life. Charlemagne the God who does a breakfast 1102 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:29,280 Speaker 1: club in New York, a huge fan. So it's like 1103 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,320 Speaker 1: that's like one of my dudes. And so he calls 1104 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,080 Speaker 1: me about a month or so ago when Sam had strapped, 1105 00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:36,880 Speaker 1: and he was like, well, you know about Sam Hunt. 1106 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: I was like, why, I guess he's he's gonna come 1107 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,880 Speaker 1: on a show. And I was like, here's a good dude, 1108 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 1: like I like him, and I don't like a lot 1109 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,200 Speaker 1: of people. I put up a lot of people, but 1110 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,960 Speaker 1: I like Sam. He's a genuine dude, Like you have 1111 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 1: to worry about somebody coming in and being somebody else. 1112 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:50,800 Speaker 1: And then he's like, yeah, we're gonna bring it. And 1113 00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,320 Speaker 1: then he got sick on the urban world. So I 1114 00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:56,600 Speaker 1: keep up with the breakfast club people and have for 1115 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:58,720 Speaker 1: years on the internet. I watched their shows. I don't 1116 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: listen to the ray, but I called Sam a couple 1117 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,440 Speaker 1: of months ago. Hey man, I go may think I'm crazy. 1118 00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:05,760 Speaker 1: I was like, but I think you should go to 1119 00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,200 Speaker 1: New York and do this breakfast clup thing. I was like, 1120 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: it's a huge I refer to. I was like, I 1121 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,280 Speaker 1: was like, it's kind of the Bobby Bones, but but 1122 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,840 Speaker 1: in the urban world. I was like, it's kind of 1123 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: the highest profile show. You know, when you can make 1124 00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,600 Speaker 1: the argument that Sam's music is it's extremely urban, like 1125 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,360 Speaker 1: it's extremely uh urban music. It's you know, it's probably 1126 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: more urban music than it is traditional pop music. And 1127 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,320 Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, I was like, you know, 1128 00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: it's typically I was like urban music, urban artists who 1129 00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:29,640 Speaker 1: go in there and do that. I was like, but 1130 00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: I was like, I think you would have a blast there, 1131 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:33,360 Speaker 1: and I think they would love you, and and uh, 1132 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 1: he was aware of them, of course, and he was like, dude, 1133 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,400 Speaker 1: we should totally do that. And he was super bummed 1134 00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: to have to get the strap thing. That strap thing 1135 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 1: really broke his heart that he had to cancel the 1136 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: show and cancel a radio thing. But he uh, hopefully 1137 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: he goes back there some. Yeah. I hope that too, 1138 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,439 Speaker 1: because I wanted to hear that because Charlotte Mane takes like, hey, 1139 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 1: should we put him on? And I was like, yeah, 1140 00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:52,920 Speaker 1: he's a real dude. He didn't want to be not 1141 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: real coming into that studio because he'll just trust me 1142 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,960 Speaker 1: because we talked about Charlotte man we go we're Charlotte 1143 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:00,280 Speaker 1: because he'll just hit you with up and kind of 1144 00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 1: out of the blue, and you know, you know, Sam's 1145 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:04,640 Speaker 1: not trying to hide anything. You'll you know, talk about 1146 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,760 Speaker 1: whatever to whoever. You know. I wish it would happen. 1147 00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure it will at some point. Dude. It's been 1148 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,360 Speaker 1: fun it first guests to ever bring in and break 1149 00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:14,480 Speaker 1: down to something like. I enjoyed that. I wonder if 1150 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: it would work because of our equipment, Like we were 1151 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:17,360 Speaker 1: talking before, I come on, like we bought all this 1152 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:21,560 Speaker 1: stuff and set it up ourselves. Nobody no radio com it. 1153 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720 Speaker 1: That's the problem. It's just wires, and I don't know 1154 00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,200 Speaker 1: really what these wires. You know how to do this, 1155 00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: like like he does. I mean, he knows what. I 1156 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 1: get on here and say the funny stuff and ask 1157 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,880 Speaker 1: the questions, but I ask questions I literally don't know. Yeah, 1158 00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: so yeah, I work anyway. I appreciate it. I hope, Yeah, 1159 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,440 Speaker 1: thank you. That was fun. So anyway, as you can tell, 1160 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:44,760 Speaker 1: this guy's had quite the influence on music and the 1161 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,400 Speaker 1: radio and all this thing. I mean, jeez, man, whenever 1162 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,120 Speaker 1: I looked at the whole list, because I didn't know. 1163 00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:52,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know until we compiled it all, and I 1164 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,400 Speaker 1: was like, holy crap, talking about someone in the last 1165 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,120 Speaker 1: three years. It's really just been like unreal, man. It's 1166 00:59:57,160 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 1: it's a I don't take it that and beyond full 1167 01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,640 Speaker 1: for every writer or every artist, every like, because it 1168 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,640 Speaker 1: changed my life and changing my kid's life. Like it's 1169 01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: a and your face was on a banner the other day. 1170 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:10,520 Speaker 1: I saw it for the first time. Dude, taking that 1171 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,880 Speaker 1: photo was hard. I'm you know, I'm awkward at best, 1172 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and put I belong in a studio. So when you 1173 01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: put a camera in front of my face and say smile, 1174 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,120 Speaker 1: we're taking hitch, it's like, I'm just nervous, Like I 1175 01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 1: don't you know, It's that I don't know what to 1176 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:26,680 Speaker 1: do in my hands. Yeah, you know you should see. 1177 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: I should send you some of the bad ones. And 1178 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: now I'll pass by z that kraft. Um, I don't 1179 01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:35,520 Speaker 1: eed you're you're set. I don't even I don't need 1180 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: to promote anything. You just set. If you see him 1181 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,120 Speaker 1: out way back in his boat as he goes by 1182 01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 1: the camera, the pink one or the green one aide 1183 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: seventy the Bobby cast its set. We'll see you next time. 1184 01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:44,080 Speaker 1: Thanks Gas,