1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What's up, party people, 2 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, January twenty ninth, 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: final few days in a month of January. One off 4 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: to a off dude, blazing, hot fire start for me 5 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: and this podcast. Hope everybody's doing well out there. Kind 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: of a slow sports weekend is afoot No football for 7 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: the first time and she's five months and we'll have 8 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: some NBA, some college hoops, but this may be the 9 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: weekend to uh chill acts if the kids are still 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: saying that word with the fam, sit back, maybe uh 11 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: warm up the fireplace on the East coast. Looks like 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: you guys are getting heavy snow. Um. It was kind 13 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: of a mediocre Thursday, if you will. In sports, We've 14 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: got a couple of good topics. But I think what 15 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: you'll enjoy even more coming up as an interview with 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: a former Jet safety Carry Rhodes. Um. He was in 17 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: that secondary with Durrell Reeves. They went to an NFC 18 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: title game. I'm a Jets fan. Uh. Carry Rhodes actually 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: had some beef with Rex Ryan. He'll air that out. 20 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,959 Speaker 1: He was a pretty accomplished basketball star in high school 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: and he played some basketball out here in l A. 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I've not been on the court with him. He will 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 1: kind of mock me for the idea that I could 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: be on the court. I think you'll enjoy that. But first, 25 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: a couple of topics I want to hit. UM. Obviously, 26 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson demanding a trade was a big deal Thursday, 27 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: but it got like kicked down the road a little 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: bit with some other things that happened. First, Before I 29 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: get to the sports, I just have to say I'm 30 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: utterly fascinated by the game Stop AMC stock Market um 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: kerfuffle that it's actually way begger than a kerfuffle. It 32 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: was huge news all week. I've been obsessed reading about it, 33 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: texting with friends. I know a lot of guys who 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast our way into the stock market 35 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: and day trading. UM. I don't know how we're gonna 36 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: work that into a show, but I promise you at 37 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: some point we are, because I I just think this 38 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: story is unbelievable and it's one of those deals where 39 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: last year everybody was constantly divided because of a certain somebody. Um. 40 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Early we're seeing a lot of people on opposite sides 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: coming together, and I kind of love that that that's 42 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: the game stop story, but we're not diving deep into 43 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: that here on a Friday podcast. I believe the biggest 44 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: story out there, and I don't know if too many 45 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: people are gonna be talking about it early, but I 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: guarantee you by lunch on the East Coast today, this 47 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: is gonna be a story. I believe Tony Romo has 48 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: lost his mind. I'm not certain, but I'm pretty sure. 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: He was doing a media call Thursday night and said 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 1: the significance of this Super Bowl. Okay, now Romo and 51 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: Nance are calling the Super Bowl, you obviously need to 52 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:02,440 Speaker 1: know that. Tony almost said this is the biggest game 53 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes will play in the rest of his career. 54 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 1: And if Mahomes loses, he cannot catch Tom Brady as 55 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: the greatest player to ever play football. Now, that on 56 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: so many levels is utterly ridiculous. And I like Tony Romo. 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: He seems like a great dude. I like hearing him 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: announced games. Um, he was very wrong in Chiefs Browns, 59 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: but weren't we all on the fourth down? But I 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: really like Romo. I think him and Answer an incredible duo, 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: and he is way, way, way wrong here. Okay. First 62 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: of all, Patrick Mahomes is twenty five years old. Like, 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: wrapped your head around that. Okay, if Brady is playing 64 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: at Patrick mahomes father was a professional baseball player. Mahomes 65 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: knows a little bit about how to um you know, 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: prolong your career, what an athlete needs to do in 67 00:03:55,720 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: the offseason. And my guess is we've got it East 68 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: another ten to fifteen years of Patrick Mahomes. We know 69 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks are staying a lot longer in the league 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: than they have before, right, that's obvious. Tend to more 71 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: ten to fifteen more years of Mahomes. You're telling me 72 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: this is the biggest game he'll ever play and he 73 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: can't catch Tom Brady. If he loses to Brady in 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: this Super Bowl, that's like ridiculous. First of all, there 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: is a chance that one of these seasons, Pat Mahomes 76 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs are eighteen or no heading into the 77 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That's a very real possibility. Who knows, maybe 78 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: they don't get the number one seed and their nineteen Okay, 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: we don't know. Patrick ma Homes could be going for 80 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,840 Speaker 1: back to back to back Super Bowls. Well, I have 81 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: no idea. Nobody has any clue what's gonna happen. Maybe 82 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: at some point Andy Reid hangs him up and Mahomes 83 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: takes a step back. Tyreek Hill, Kelsey move on, blah blah. 84 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: But anything can happen. But for Romo to try to 85 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,720 Speaker 1: hype the game under that pretense and that this is 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 1: the biggest game Mahomes will ever play at the age, 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 1: given what we've seen from him the last three years, 88 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: his first three years as a starter, AFC Title Game, 89 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: Super Bowl m v P, and back to the Super Bowl. 90 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: This idea that like, it's not going to get bigger 91 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: than this from my homes is silly, And I know 92 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Romo is just trying to hype it up. I get it, Tony, 93 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: your way off base, all right quickly, I'm gonna go 94 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: to a story. Number two. Ben Roethlisberger preemptively made a 95 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: stunning move. He came out and said, hey, hey, hey, 96 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: I want us to do great things. I'm willing to 97 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: restructure my deal so I can stick around longer and 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: help the team win. I know I'm a forty one 99 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: million dollar salary capit next year. I'm willing to adjust that. 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,040 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger must be listening to this podcast. I'm telling you, folks, 101 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger on the stretch was a thousand percent washed. Okay, 102 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: this is a great stat He had fourteen interceptions last year, 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: ten in the regular season, four and the loss of 104 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: the Browns. In the final one, two, three, four, five, 105 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: final six games, he had nine picks nine. He had 106 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: nine of his fourteen interceptions sound the stretch. He looked 107 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: like a fossil in December. Okay. In that remake, uh 108 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: makeup game against Baltimore, he was pretty bad. Um. They 109 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: should have wiped the floor with the Ravens who were 110 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: down to their third string quarterback and big Band started 111 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: to look, oh what's going on here? Then against Washington, 112 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: Ben another just not a good game, unimpressive work from Roethlisberger. 113 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: They led fourteen nothing and end up losing to Washington. 114 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: Then against Buffalo that's when the meltdown really began. Two picks, uh, brutal, 115 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: absolutely brutal picks six if yeah, it cost me money. 116 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: I'm not salty about that. It's a month and change old. 117 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: It was just he was bad in that game. Pick 118 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: six right before the half flipped the game Buffalo wins. 119 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: Next week out, you're like, oh, they're going to rebound 120 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: against Cincinnati primetime game and Ben was awful. I would 121 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: have said that was rock bottom in the regular season. 122 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: But as bad as that was, completions um four point 123 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: five yards per attempt against the hopeless Bengals, he did 124 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: rebound against the Colts the final week with three TVs. 125 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: That was you know, the game where he said, I 126 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: didn't like what our offense was calling, so I just 127 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: went rogue and called my plays in the second half 128 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: and we were dominant. Okay, fine, why the hell didn't 129 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: you do that against the Browns four picks? I know 130 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: that the record will show he threw for five yards. Jason, 131 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 1: come on, well, that's because he dug them. Was nothing 132 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: whole I think twenty and nothing. I mean, they were 133 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: down a million points, ended up losing the game. And 134 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was bad in that game. I mean the 135 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: guy had yes, nothing Browns in the first quarter. Ben 136 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: multiple interceptions, just terrible decision making process and your damn 137 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: righty wants to uh adjust so they can. They're don't 138 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: have a forty one million dollar cap hit. Now the 139 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: question becomes does Pittsburgh have the cajones to kick him 140 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: to the curb and say, hey, thank you for your service. 141 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: For moving on. Um, I don't know. My guess is no, 142 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Ben's trying to be the bigger guy, extended his career. 143 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: He sees Breeze go to the playoffs at his age. 144 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: He sees Brady in the super Bowl at his age. 145 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 1: He sees Antonio Brown and Levan Bell in the super Bowl. 146 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: I know people are so mad at me about that tweet. 147 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: You guys know that like a bunch of barstools. Brownies 148 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: start jumping down my throat. I guess they're Steeler fans 149 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: and they were. They're all jammed up like I was 150 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: taking shots at Big Bad. I didn't even think about 151 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: Big Ben. I said, Big Ben's kicking rocks because to 152 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: two chumps. And I don't even like Antonio Brown. He's 153 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: a bad human being. Levy Bell was garbage with my jets. 154 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: I find it funny that they are in the super 155 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: Bowl and Ben Roethlisberger is at home wondering where the 156 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: hell his eleven or no season went. That is funny. 157 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: If you can't find that funny, you've got problems at 158 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: any rate. My guess is the Steelers bring back Big Ben. 159 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: And you know the third biggest story. No, it's not 160 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: the Lakers losing to the Pistons on a back to back. 161 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: Pistons the worst team in the league. Yes, I bet 162 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: their season win totals under and they now have one 163 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: two straight and I'm a little shook. Now they're like 164 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: five and seventeen. Um Anthony Davis didn't play. I don't 165 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: know why Lebron played thirty five minutes on a back 166 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 1: to back in January. I I feel like I need 167 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: to send a message to Frank Vogel, who lives in 168 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: my neighborhood. Not that I'm in a ball or neighborhood. 169 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: He's in the baller portion of the area. Uh, the neighborhood. 170 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: I'm not, but I doubt to tell Frank Vogel, Like, hey, man, 171 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 1: tell Lebron he's not playing on a back to back 172 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: thirty five minutes. You want to get out there twenty minutes, 173 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: get some exercise, Fine, give those minutes. Halen Horton, Tucker, Okay, 174 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: back to Deshaun Watson before we get to carry Rhodes. 175 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: I guess all I've got to say about Watson is 176 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, no surprise, and I don't believe that there's 177 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: a path to the Texans playing hardball. We're not trading you. 178 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to hold out, Like, I don't think 179 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: that that's the move they want to do. Okay, the 180 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: agents rule the NFL. The top agents have a lot 181 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 1: of the best players. Deshaun Watson has a powerful agent. 182 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: If you, as a franchise the owner lied to Watson's 183 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: face and if his next move was fine, we're gonna 184 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: be jerks you you gotta show up and play or um, 185 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: we're not trading you. The agent will then say, man, 186 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: you're really doing my client dirty. When it's free agent time, 187 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: don't come calling me from my guys because I know 188 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: you're a trash organization and I'm not sending my guys 189 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,959 Speaker 1: into your organization. Now the Houston Texans again, you can 190 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: listen to Thursday podcast. Like, I don't know why they 191 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: hired this kid college. Um, very a kid. He's sixty 192 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: five years old. But it's not a good move. The 193 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 1: optics are bad when you look around the rest of 194 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: the league. I mean, coaches are getting younger, coaches are 195 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: offensive minded, and you're hiring a guy who's never been 196 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator in the NFL and he's sixty five. 197 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson has a right to be piste off, and 198 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: I will maintain the Jets are in the mix. I 199 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: think the Dolphins are. But I'm gonna be honest with 200 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: you guys. Wouldn't shock me if neither of those two 201 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: teams got him. Watson top ten quarterback for sure in 202 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: the NFL this season. Statistically he was top five even 203 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: though they were four and twelve, and he could go 204 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: to I would guess at least twenty teams, twenty other 205 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: thirty two teams are gonna be calling about the Shawn 206 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: Watson and a lot of them won't have the draft capital. Um, 207 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, like, if you're McVeigh, is 208 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 1: there a way you can say we'll eat salary? Um? 209 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, we really part of golf salary. Just take 210 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: them off our hands and we'll get us Watson. What 211 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: if Nick Cesario, former Patriots guy for over a decade, 212 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: says we'll give Ushawn Watson to the to Belichick for 213 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks. Um, Remember, relationships matter, you guys 214 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: know this in life, especially in sports. Really in the NFL, 215 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: the story is Belichick ended up giving Jimmy Garoppolo to 216 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: the Niners for a second round pick when he could 217 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: have got more from the Browns. But Belichick did not 218 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: want to send Jimmy Ge, who he liked, to a 219 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: crap organization like the Browns, which they were at the time, 220 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: and an organization which treated Belichick like garbage two decades earlier. 221 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: Relationships matter. Belichick had a good relationship with Shanahan's father. 222 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: He sent Jimmy g to Shanahan's son they got to 223 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I would be very, very devastated as 224 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: a Jets fan if the Patriots landed Deshaun Watson. But 225 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: it's in play, all right, Enough of me, It's time 226 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: for a great interview with former NFL safety Carry Rhodes. 227 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: Jason likes to think he knows everything when it comes 228 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 1: to sports. I know what sports stands want, but for 229 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: everything he doesn't, he knows a guy who does. Let's 230 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: just say I know a guy who knows a guy 231 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: who knows another guy. All right, let's welcome into straight 232 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: fire a former New York Jet. You guys know about 233 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: my love for the Jets, dating back until I was 234 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: a little kid. Huge Jets fan. This guy was on 235 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: the first team that went to the a f C 236 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: Championship with Mark Sanchez and Darrell Rievus. Let's bring in 237 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: Carry Rhodes, former Jets safety Carry How are you, man, 238 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: says and I'm doing well. Man, I know you're struggling. 239 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: Old been Jet, a lifelong Jets so you know, you know, 240 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: I'll take it easy on you. You were you were 241 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: an integral part to UM. You know, one of the 242 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: two best teams. The team. I wasn't super into, you know, 243 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: I was in college. UM they had any Testaverdy Wayne 244 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: Crabet I liked, But I like your team and two 245 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: thousand ten those teams, man, I was so into them. 246 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: But listen, the Jets have good news. Why why don't 247 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: we start there? If you're the Jets, Cary Roads, we'll 248 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl and all that fun stuff. 249 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 1: If you're the Jets, what are you willing to give 250 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: up to get DeShawn Watson from the Houston Texas. Well, 251 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: you give up the kitchen sink to get a guy 252 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: who can change the franchise. Right, so a guy like 253 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson can come in and especially if he wants 254 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: to be there, I mean the rumors now, I mean that. 255 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean that's his top place to be. And so 256 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: if you have somebody like that, if it's caliber that 257 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: wants to go to your franchise and help change change 258 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: the narrative there around that team, I mean you you 259 00:14:57,640 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 1: give whatever you can to get them to be Okay, okay, 260 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: let say that the Texans get all greedy. We want 261 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: the Seattle pick, we want your pick, which is number two, 262 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: We want Quentin Williams, and we want next year's number one. 263 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: You're doing that, I'm doing all that four ones. Ye 264 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: Williams of course went what top five? Yeah, he did, 265 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: No Q and quentnin is great. I mean it's not 266 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: anything against him at all. I mean, will ad tackle 267 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: change or franchise of will will a star quarterback? Change 268 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: the franchise? Which one? Which way do you go? Which 269 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: way do you lean? So? And I don't even think 270 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: it's saying Quentin Williams. Quentin Williams was a failure because 271 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: he's not He's a he's a baller. But oh no, 272 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: yeah you pro football focus this last year he was 273 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 1: like a top three defensive tackle. Obviously Aaron Donald is 274 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: the gold standard, but yes, Quinn and Williams was phenomenal 275 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: this year. No, No, he plays well and I've known 276 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: him for a while because the Alabama roots. But um, yeah, 277 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: he's a baller, but he's not Deshaun Watson, um type 278 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: of an impact player. And so yeah, I mean you 279 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: you take, you take, you take that and make that switch. Um, 280 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 1: what what do you make of Deshaun Watson trying to say, 281 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm done with this? The owner lied 282 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: to me. Um, the team is a dumpster fire. You know, 283 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: this new GM, this new head coach. I mean they 284 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: hired a sixty five year old dude who I don't 285 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 1: I hadn't. I tried to look, Carrie, I don't think 286 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: Colly interviewed anywhere for a head coaching job in the 287 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: last decade. What the hell like do you think Watson 288 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: has a right to be pissed. I think he has 289 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: a right right to be pissed, only because they made 290 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: that an option. Right. So, if if there's a conversation, 291 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 1: and we've heard that the conversations internally was that they 292 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: were gonna give some stock into what Deshaun Watson thought 293 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: about the GM and the head coaching job, Right, So 294 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: if they're having those discussions and then all of a 295 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: sudden they switch it around and just go out and 296 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: do what they want to do regardless. And your quarterback 297 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: feels a certain way about it. Obviously that's a that's 298 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: a big deal. But also there's this thing where it's 299 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: let him play quarterback and you make the decisions. That's fine. 300 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: But if you're going to tell him that he's going 301 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 1: to be involved and just just be honest, and I 302 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: don't think, um, once you break the trust there with 303 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: you know, with with management and your star player, I 304 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: then it's always going to be a murky thing. Yeah, 305 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: it's one of those weird off seasons Kerry where Matt 306 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: Stafford went to manage it was like, yo, I'm done here. Um, 307 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson obviously, Jimmy Garoppolo may hit the market. Carson Wentz. 308 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's trying to force his way 309 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: out anymore, but he was really ticked that he lost 310 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: his starting job. Some people seem upset that the NFL 311 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: is starting to get a little bit of a player 312 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: empowerment vibe that the NBA has had. And you are 313 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: you know, you were an accomplish high school basketball player 314 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 1: all the state you play in leagues out here in 315 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: l A. We'll get to that, But how do you 316 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: feel about the NFL Stars kind of dictating where they go. 317 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: I freaking love it, man, I freaking love it. I 318 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: mean it's that thing where like again, people are starting 319 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 1: to field their power and I know these players. It's 320 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: very hard in the league like the NFL, where it's 321 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: really next man up because there's some younger guy that 322 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: will take less to be in that situation that they're in. 323 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: But you also, I mean, it's still always going to 324 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: be a star driven league. And so once the stars 325 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: realized that their voice matters, and and I think now 326 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: with this advanced social media age and people being able 327 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: to be you know, Twitter gms and and Instagram gms 328 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: and and have their input that away where it doesn't 329 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: have to literally go through um, your your few your 330 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 1: few beat writers around the team or or the local 331 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 1: papers where you can get information out like it can 332 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 1: really be out instantaneously to the masses. So I mean, 333 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 1: people are their own own gms, and people can learn 334 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: their own team right now, especially with the power that 335 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 1: they have, and they're starting to realize all right, let's 336 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: quickly pivot to those Jets teams the two thousand nine one. 337 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: First of all, they trade up to get Sanchez and 338 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: you know it, get out of USC going to New York. 339 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Pretty boy. Um, there was a lot of people skeptical 340 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: and they go to the a f C Championship. I 341 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: just want you to go back to that team when 342 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 1: you started the season. I mean, this is a Jet 343 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: team that not many people had pegged going this far Um. 344 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: You know, you were on the team the year prior. 345 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 1: I think the year prior was far Um. Talk about 346 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: that season like what what jumps out at you from 347 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 1: from memory? Because the secondary is incredible. Yeah. The funny 348 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: thing about going into oh nine was that we knew 349 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,440 Speaker 1: we were really good. We were a really good team, 350 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 1: and I think people forget that two thousand eight year. 351 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: We and I think at one point we were nine 352 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: and three or we're really good and Brett Farr've got hurt, right, 353 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,199 Speaker 1: but he can playing, and so the play on that 354 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: side declined, declined, and so we couldn't really make up 355 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: with it with the defense that we had at that time, 356 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: and it just didn't balance out. But the talent was 357 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: there and we knew that we could if we got 358 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: somebody that can come in and manage the game and 359 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: play mistake free football. For us, we would have a 360 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,320 Speaker 1: chance because the defense is going to be strong, and 361 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: so we uh, we put all those things together and 362 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't without struggle in that first year, but once 363 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: we got everything together and started to click, man, it 364 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: was just one of those things that we knew we 365 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: could be special. And we just really trusted, trusting in 366 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: the system and trusting in ourselves. So, I mean, we 367 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: were we we knew, we knew we had a good team. 368 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,239 Speaker 1: Now a f C, A f C championship game, you know, 369 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: a couple of players away from band in the Super Bowl. 370 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: You know, we can't predict that, but I mean we 371 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: were there. We were close. It was weird because, um, 372 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: you know Rex Ryan. Everybody loved that guy. He would 373 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: just talk a lot of smack. The media ate it 374 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 1: all up. He was really good. Those first two years 375 00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: they went a f C title game, you know, and 376 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: you could argue it was a lot of Mangini's guys. Yes, 377 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 1: you were in that regime, and I'm friendly with Mangini. 378 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's been on the podcast. Um, and the 379 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: first two years were great. Rex Ryan was never above five. 380 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: After that, went to Buffalo and kind of flopped. I'm 381 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: just curious. You guys had a bit of war of words. 382 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: He called you Hollywood and all that. What do you 383 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: think that stems from? Did you guys not end well? 384 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: Oh no, we didn't. We didn't end well at all. 385 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: But I think that it was just it was one 386 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: of those things where, like you said, it was a 387 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of managing the guys. There, a lot of a 388 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: lot of like her man managing the guys that were 389 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: left over still on those teams. And then you know, 390 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: we got a few guys in with the managing the era, 391 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 1: like you know, the Paces and the and the Jenkins 392 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 1: and all those guys that came in, but I mean 393 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: the Washington, the Jones, all those guys, the guys that 394 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 1: we were already there. So um, you know, he came 395 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: in and did a good job of that and and 396 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: kind of lit a fire in us, and he did 397 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 1: bring a confidence in the square that we were missing 398 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,919 Speaker 1: at the time. But after all that stuff, you know, 399 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: after some of our guys left and we kind of 400 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: moved on and he started bringing his guys and it 401 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: just wasn't the same. And you know, the good thing 402 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: about Rex. He was a guy that people would believe 403 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: in because he know, he talked to related game and 404 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: he was very successful as a defensive coordinator, right, so 405 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,239 Speaker 1: we knew the pedigree was already there. But you know, 406 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: managing the game and doing certain things that I head coach, uh, 407 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: you know it's called on to do outside of those, 408 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: you know, getting players to to to to believe and 409 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: buy in. He just I don't think was his strong suit. 410 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: So that really was it? Yeah, I mean, you're right, 411 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Like anybody can come and take 412 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: like a group of guys that are close and get 413 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: them all fired up and excited and getting that confidence. 414 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: But eventually that wears off, right, And it seems like 415 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: after that Rex did not have a CounterPunch. And I'm 416 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: not going I'm not attacking the guy here, no, um, 417 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: but he never had a winning record after those first 418 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: two years. Let go in Buffalo and you know he's 419 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: made the transition to TV and I don't know that 420 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: he's going back to coaching. Yeah he won't. I don't 421 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: think he'll get another head coaching job. No, But I 422 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: think if he wants to come back and be a 423 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator somewhere. He definitely can do that. That's always 424 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: an option. And I mean I think, to be honest, 425 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: that's his That's that's where he should be. I mean, 426 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: he's very very very great at that, and he's uh 427 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: he has a motivator of men, and uh, you know 428 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: he will have he will have success there if he 429 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: does that. But if he tries to go back into 430 00:22:59,920 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: the head coaching game, I just don't really see it working. Yeah, 431 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: And then you went to Arizona after that and had 432 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, would you say as much success as 433 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: you had in New York or now I had I 434 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: think I had. I think I was better, to be honest, 435 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: I had this. I had this. Uh, I mean obviously, 436 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean my years in New York were great, and 437 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: and I did play really well, and I think the 438 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: a f C was the only reason I wasn't a 439 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: uh eight seven times eight time pro bowler and all 440 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:28,880 Speaker 1: that stuff was just because of the guys who were 441 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:30,479 Speaker 1: in the a f C. I mean, you had and Ree, 442 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: you had Troy Palma, you had those guys that were 443 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: uh just year and year out, didn't really matter what 444 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: they did, they were going to get that nod. So 445 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 1: I mean I played I played great there. But I 446 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: think in Arizona it was one of those things where 447 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: I just I don't know, I found this this renewed 448 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,199 Speaker 1: love for the game and and and appreciation for no 449 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: as we get older, we always started to appreciate things 450 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 1: a little differently, right, And so you have this, you 451 00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: have this like time is running out, so you might 452 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: want to enjoy this thing. And where in New York 453 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: was like if I played at the All Star level 454 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: one game and and maybe a little bit off that level, 455 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 1: a little bit like the the it seemed like the 456 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: world was falling, was falling, right, the sky was falling. 457 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: So you just in Arizona it was more about the relationships. 458 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: And like the fans were really like they were just 459 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: and and I say this very complimentary. They were very 460 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 1: just wanting to see a good product on the field, 461 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: and they just enjoyed any kind of wins that came 462 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Where in New York, you know how that is, 463 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: it's like either you win or you're a loser. Like 464 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: there's no in between, there there's no ground. So I 465 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: just enjoyed my time in Arizona. Man, I was a 466 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: little bit more mature, and I was a little bit 467 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: more just you know, knowing that this thing is it's 468 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: not long, it's it doesn't last forever. So I had 469 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: a lot of fun there and played well, yeah, me 470 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: through what it's like when the career is ending. I'm 471 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,240 Speaker 1: always fascinated by you know, you guys have the fame 472 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: and adulation. Everywhere you go, people are, oh, Carrie, what's 473 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: an autograph? And applauses its people staring at you everywhere 474 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 1: you go. Like, once that starts to wear off, can 475 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: you can you quantify that or you know, put it 476 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 1: into words for the audience, Yeah, there is no there. 477 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I can tell you this. So it's it's 478 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 1: almost like a like a rock star. Right you go 479 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: into the venue. There's people screaming for one person and you, 480 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, or a band or whatever it is, and 481 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 1: you get this instant gratification of Wow, they're here for me, 482 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: they're here to see me. They're here, they're here to 483 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: see us, right, they're here to see us perform. And 484 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: you get that instant gratification of the crowd here and 485 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: and giving their adulation back to you right there on 486 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: the spot, And you get accustomed to that and so 487 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 1: as a football player, you have that same filling. It's 488 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,199 Speaker 1: just like a rock star, especially you come in as 489 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: a starter and you you run out and they call 490 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: your name out and it's seven thousand, will scream your name, 491 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: and when you leave, like you said, the autographs, the recognition, 492 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: all that stuff is there. As soon as that's over, 493 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: that instantly changes. That's like you're you're instantly known as 494 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 1: Carry Rose, the guy that used to play for the Jets, right, 495 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: and so you know, like and then you have like 496 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: these younger fans that are growing up as well, and 497 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: next thing you know, like there they don't know you, 498 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: and they think that you're you're old. Like it's just 499 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: like this instant like click of you. You just don't 500 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: matter as much right now. And so if you're not 501 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: used to that, you don't have a game plan for 502 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 1: the second second phase of your life, for the second career, 503 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: then it's you get stuck on just those moments and 504 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: what that and what those moments felt like, instead of 505 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: understanding that in the moment now you still have the 506 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: opportunity to do something great and do something meaningful for 507 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: your life and switch that switch. So I mean, I 508 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: think for me, it was a little bit easier, even 509 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,239 Speaker 1: though I did go through little bouts of depression with 510 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: leaving the game. I think a lot of guys don't 511 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: have that next step available and don't have that important 512 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: group available to kind of usher them into the new 513 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: world and if and just so people know, it's not like, oh, 514 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: you had this as like a five to ten year career. 515 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you were a star at Louisville. 516 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 1: You were a high school quarterback slash basketball star. Like, 517 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: so we're talking about fifteen years now, people cheering for 518 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: you and oh, hey, what's up man, you know, wanting 519 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: to get in your circle and all that. So it's 520 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: not it's not like it's just a short flame. This 521 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: was a long This is probably you know, you were 522 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 1: starting to get recognized what like fifteen years old, maybe earlier. 523 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I was I was getting recruited 524 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: to play in high schools at nine, you know, Like, 525 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 1: so I had I had people come into my games 526 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: and little league to get me to the school so 527 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: for a long time, for a long time. So yeah, 528 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: I've had that, um people wanted to be in my circle, 529 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: and people wanted me to do something for them or 530 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: be involved with them in some kind of capacity for 531 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: a long time, right, So then you go, like you 532 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: said to that not being a thing anymore, and it's 533 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: it's it's tough. It's tough, man. I think I think 534 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: we all just need to understand as players. I'm speaking 535 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: to myself as well. Uh, but you just have to realize, man, 536 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: that there's so much more that we can do and 537 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: we're so much more capable of just being these gladiators 538 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: that entertained people. And I think, you know, once we 539 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:20,120 Speaker 1: get into the understanding and the group environment of understanding 540 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: that we just have to have these conversations together and 541 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: know that we're not alone, you know, because people think 542 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: that we do this and we're all along, but we're not. 543 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, I speculated Kyrie Irving sounds like 544 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: he's probably going through some of this now. But you 545 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 1: guys are friendly. I don't know I no, no, no, 546 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 1: I don't know him. Well. I I think he's very 547 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: I think he's one well. I think I talked to 548 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: Rob about a little bit, but he's the he may 549 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: be the most skilled player in the NBA. And I 550 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: and I'm a big Duke fan, but I've always I've 551 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: watched him since he was once since he was younger, 552 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: knowing he was in the New Jersey area, and so 553 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: just seeing how skilled he is and seeing how he's 554 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: calm as a man and being his own voice and 555 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: being somebody that stands up for what he believes in. 556 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate him. I I I think he does 557 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: some things that brings a lot of this this bad 558 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: negative attention on himself, um in a bad way, which 559 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: is warnt it because he does it in the way 560 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: that's only fitted for him. And I think there is 561 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: a little bit of he has to be careful with that. 562 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: But as far as him speaking his mind and being 563 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: his own man man, it's it's refreshing to see. I 564 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: want to quickly go back to Louisville. Lamar Jackson obviously 565 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: maybe the best player Louisville football history, certainly up there. Um, 566 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens have to make a decision on 567 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: extending him. Do they've given that humongous contract. You know, 568 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: we've seen other teams, for instance, Russell Wilson in Seattle. Um, 569 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: once you get off that rookie deal and you pay 570 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: them heavily, you've got to make cuts elsewhere. Um Baltimore 571 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: Ravens come to you, you know, carry your smart mind, 572 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: your intelligent guy. Would you pay Lamar Jackson that top 573 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: dollar that's super max if you will to be the 574 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: Ravens quarterback for the you know, the next five six years. Dude, 575 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,040 Speaker 1: that's such a tough question, Jason, because he's uh, yes, 576 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 1: he's play warns warns that right. I mean he's their 577 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: well regular season yes, true, well that's true. But also 578 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: with the because that that kind of irks me a 579 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 1: little bit as well. I think I don't think they 580 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: do a good job of calling plays in the playoffs. Now, 581 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: he hasn't completely blown everybody away obviously with his you know, 582 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: with his playing playoff games. But I think he played 583 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: well enough to win this postseason. And I think a 584 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: lot of times, even when they played San Diego the 585 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: first time, when he had the horrendous first three quarters, 586 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: they started to pass the ball, like literally opened it 587 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: up in pass the ball and letting him throw the ball, 588 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: and they came back. They made the game competitive. Now 589 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: they weren't gonna win the game, but the guy can 590 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,200 Speaker 1: throw the ball. I think they need to develop their 591 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: passing game more. And it's I know, once you get 592 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 1: this one, you know, this one trick that works, sometimes 593 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: you want to keep doing it and keep you know, 594 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: bands of cessil. But teams are going to catch up 595 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: to that, especially in the playoffs where you can really 596 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: just hone in on one person and and hone in 597 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: on the game planet. You know, really stop one team 598 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: and one person. They're not gonna let you do the 599 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: best thing you want to do, So you have to 600 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: have this. I think it comes down to coaching, but 601 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: I also thinking he needs to play a little better, 602 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: but it's not all his fault. And so it's like 603 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: my son and I started to play Madden and he 604 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: discovered he found a play that is automatic mesh whatever 605 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: where there's crossing patterns and a guy deep and he 606 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 1: just uses it every down And I tell him, you know, Bryce, 607 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: you got to mix it up because eventually the computer 608 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: is going to figure out, oh, he's doing this play 609 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: every single time, and they're gonna shut it down and 610 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: pick it off. And he's like, no, this is automatic, Dad. 611 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: It works. And it's like with Lamar Jackson, like at 612 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: some point you're gonna have to see an off speed 613 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: pitch from him, right, Jason. I watched their games and 614 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: I call their plays. They're the only team that I 615 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: really watched because I I only I support players and 616 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: I support people. I know I don't really have a 617 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 1: team team, but so but he's my guy. I talked, 618 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: I talked to Lamar a lot, but like I see 619 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: him and I watched their game and I'm literally calling 620 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: their play. So if I'm doing if I'm doing that 621 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: with no investment, I'm sure teams can you know, make 622 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: a plan to stop him in the playoffs, especially when 623 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:23,400 Speaker 1: it's really really exces and os in that point in 624 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: that time of the year. So it's um, it's a 625 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,239 Speaker 1: combination of both. But for me, I mean, if I 626 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: was a GM like you, you want to you're gonna 627 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: keep a guy like that? Now, I think the first 628 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: approach with him, with with with me would be to say, listen, 629 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you. I'm gonna let him know that 630 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: he's he's he's gonna get paid. But my also my 631 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: my other pitch to him would be, do you want 632 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: to win and do you want this narrative to change 633 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: for you in the postseason? You take this contract which 634 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: is a little more team friendly, right, maybe we'll give 635 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: you a lesser amount of years. So obviously we can 636 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: we can come back and have this discussion later. But 637 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: do you want to take a really, really good number 638 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: and bring in some more weapons on the at the 639 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: receiver position that can really make your game go to 640 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 1: the next level, or do you want to just get 641 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: paid Like I would really put the ball at his court, 642 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: and a guy like Camp, who is a team guy, 643 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: I promise you he would make that decision accordingly. Well, 644 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: that'll be interesting because remember Jared Goff had gotten to 645 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl with the Rams, and you know, we 646 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: know he's not great. He's not a top ten quarterback 647 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: by he stretch. He got big, big, big money, and 648 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: now the Rams are like refusing to commit to him. So, 649 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: like exactly, the NFL is super tough. I am curious 650 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,680 Speaker 1: as to your thoughts on the Super Bowl here. Patrick 651 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes obviously got his five hundred million dollar deal doesn't 652 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: kick yet, but you know that's almost like a bargain 653 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: given how good this guy's been, right, I mean, Lamar 654 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: has struggled in the playoffs. Patrick Mahomes is phenomenal in 655 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: the postseason. Um, I don't know who you who you 656 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: like in the Super Bowl Tampa or Kansas City. But 657 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: but but, I mean obviously you can never count out 658 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: a team that has uh the old goat on it. 659 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: So we got we gotta see. But Kenson City is 660 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: the better team. I mean they Temple Bays defense has 661 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 1: been playing lights out in the playoffs. But I think 662 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: there's been no formula to stop Patrick Mahomes in that offense. 663 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they just have so many weapons and not 664 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: even the weapons, it's just they're so well coached and 665 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: their offenses so well well organized. Man, so they have 666 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: the answer usually. And so I mean if if a team, 667 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 1: if they don't make mistakes, and even when they do 668 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:37,320 Speaker 1: make mistakes, they still win. But if they don't make mistakes, 669 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they win this game by double digits. Honestly, 670 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: I kind of feel the same way. All right, we'll 671 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: wrap up. I know you're a big basketball guy, so yes, 672 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: you were like an all state player. Um in Alabama 673 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: position I played the guard. I played any guard position 674 00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: to want to. I can play one the three as well. 675 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,240 Speaker 1: So quarterback of the high school football team and point guard. 676 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: And everybody is recruiting you. Man. That must have been 677 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: some life. And now, um, you know you get out here. 678 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: You're out in l A and you're playing basketball in 679 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: men's leagues. Huh, obviously you're not in the league I'm in, 680 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: which is a level. I haven't played it in two years, 681 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 1: but you know, I'm a I would say I have 682 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: a tier or two below you. I do know Terrell 683 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: Owens and Cameo in the league. He's in. That's out 684 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: of my league. But it's fun. Who are some of 685 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 1: the NBA players you played with? Man, I've played in. 686 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,400 Speaker 1: I've played in all the summer summer stuff. Man, when 687 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: they're they're out here in U C. L A. I 688 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:40,839 Speaker 1: mean the west Brooks, I've played with J. J. Will, 689 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: Jay Will who was yeah, doing a great job with 690 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: ESK and all that stuff. But I mean all those guys, man, 691 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: it's it's so hard. I mean, Common Comment used to 692 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 1: play with us a lot out here. Common can he can? 693 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: He who Comment can play? Man? Common can play? He's 694 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: uh and he loved it too. He's an avid player. 695 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: Um who else? I think Durant and all those guys 696 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: out here. I mean it's changed. I mean through my years. 697 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm old now, so I mean the Jason Terry is 698 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: the the Stefan Marberry's Uh. I mean a lot of them, man, 699 00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: A lot of those guys. Uh. And I do want 700 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: to highlight you are somehow a fan of the Dallas 701 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 1: Mavericks despite growing up at Alabama. Um you know, I 702 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: actually floated this on social media on Thursday that, um, 703 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, they're only eight and tennis here Luca is 704 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: playing phenomenal people doubles. I mean, he's not the reason there. 705 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean they can't get stops to save their life. 706 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: But it just feels like that Seth Curry trade is 707 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of backfired. I don't know why people like Josh 708 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: Richardson so much. When Philly got him, it was like, 709 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 1: oh we got Josh Richardson. I was like, what is 710 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: this guy done? Yeah? Um? And I wonder does Luca 711 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,919 Speaker 1: have like a complaint to management. Hey man, we've taken 712 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 1: a step back. Do you think they can go get 713 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: Bradley Bull. I don't think they're taking a step bad, Jason. 714 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: I think they've in one of the teams that have 715 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,239 Speaker 1: been killed by the by the COVID protocol stuff. So 716 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 1: they've had five of their key players out for I 717 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: mean the last so this strip there on this last 718 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,359 Speaker 1: losing strip, they've been on. I think these guys are 719 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,680 Speaker 1: almost been out a month now. They just got them 720 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 1: back yesterday. They just got Richardson Powell, Finnie Smith and uh. 721 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: But I mean, come on, Carr, you're those guys really 722 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: game changes. I know their role players, and they matter, 723 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: Maxi Kleiber matters. But I mean the reality is like 724 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 1: they don't really. I don't know if I consider porzing 725 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: Is a legit second star. He's not reliable. I see that. 726 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: That kills me to that narrative. Man, it's so hard 727 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: for Porzingcase to play. It's hard to play. It's hard 728 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: to play with a guy like Luca, right, I mean 729 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna it's hard to play with Luca no 730 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: No listen as as a second star, not not not 731 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: other guys. So that's why they have so much success, right, 732 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: They have guys that buy into the system, buy into 733 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: the team, and do all the other things outside of 734 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 1: what Luca No supposedly can't do. Right, and so the 735 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: fit fits well. But when you're a guy like Porzingis, 736 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: who was the you know, he was the go to 737 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: guy in New York. He was the number one option 738 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 1: to come and be the second option on the team 739 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: where a guy is a ball dominant guy like Luca, 740 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: it's very hard for a guy like Porzingis to get 741 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: his touches and get his rhythm. So if you said 742 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 1: if you want and then it's so weird because when 743 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: Porzingis gets the ball, you can literally see in his 744 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: mind like he has to shoot this or he won't 745 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 1: get a shot. So it's that whole dynamic of how 746 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,799 Speaker 1: do you your top two players played together and how 747 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: do they miss? Because there were times last year when 748 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: Luca was out and KP was the only guy there 749 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 1: and they were still winning. In Portzinger stawted averaging thirty. 750 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: He was player of the Month in the Western Conference. 751 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: In the Western Conference, so the guy can play and 752 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,880 Speaker 1: he is too. He's definitely a number two options. But 753 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: Washington wanted KP in the deal for Beal. Are you 754 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,040 Speaker 1: doing that? I mean, if you if you do that 755 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,879 Speaker 1: for Dallas and you give up KP and whoever else 756 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: for Bradley, means they're gonna have to get their hands 757 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,319 Speaker 1: on draft picks. Because I think that's what Washington. Yeah, 758 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: you're not going to be increment You might be incrementally better, 759 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: but you're not gonna, You're still gonna be in the 760 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: same position. So if you want to really win, I mean, 761 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: keeping Luca and kp together and making them work is 762 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: the best option. Then you can bring in the guy 763 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,360 Speaker 1: like a third star, like Bill with somebody else. But 764 00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: I think if you were to do a swap like that, 765 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna be I mean, yeah, I'm not gonna 766 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 1: And I have no idea if Washington would want a 767 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: guy who's always hurting porzingis you know this? Car Um? 768 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 1: All right, I'll wrap up on this one. Um, Since 769 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: you are such an NBA guy, Michael Jordan's or Lebron James, 770 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: who is the better player? I'm not asking who's had 771 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: the better career because we know that's Lebron gave me 772 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: eighteen seasons. Who do you think is a better player? 773 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm old school with this as well. I'm a Jordan. 774 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Jordan's stand, so Jordan would be my would 775 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: be my better player. But I know Lebron man, it's nobody, 776 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: I mean, nobody rivals his career. I mean he's I 777 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: mean he's still doing this a year eighteen average, I mean, 778 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,600 Speaker 1: scoring four to six points other day, like it's just 779 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. He's he's not from this planet. So it's 780 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 1: it's I mean, whoever you pick out of those two 781 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,280 Speaker 1: and you can't be wrong. Yeah, alright. Carrie Rhodes, former 782 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 1: Jets safety UH play with Arizona was on you could 783 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: argue he was on the greatest Jets team this century? 784 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: Is that that's a fair statement, right, of course. I 785 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: mean unless you think the two thousand ten team was better. No, 786 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: they were not better because because I was, because I 787 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,399 Speaker 1: wasn't on that nobject. All right, Carrie, thanks a lot, 788 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: and you know, keep up the good work, uh in 789 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 1: your post NFL career. Thank you so much. Jason