1 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: The word of the day is disruptive. Welcome Birg Gang 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: on today's show, our second of the day and a 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: lot to cover. Zach Hirshman rejoins me. Plus Danny Sirek 4 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: is here and a special guest. We get form of 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,759 Speaker 1: Cardinals linebacker rod Frederickson's thoughts on Walter Nolan, the third, 6 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle at ole Miss selected sixteenth overall. And 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: yes we'll hear what both GM Monty Austin Ford and 8 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: Hit coach Jonathan Gannon think of their new addition to 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: the d line room. It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: seventy four and it starts now. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 12 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 3: Puda Baker, What Heart? 13 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 4: What rent? 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 3: This guy's unbelievable. 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 16 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 17 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 3: He's a a ten half of five. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: He's it again, So more hurry magic. 20 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craig Krioler. 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: So Day one of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: is in the books. The Cardinals, Zach make just the 23 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: one selection I have to make that clear because a 24 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: year ago there were two selections in the first round, 25 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: but the pick ole Miss defensive tackle Walter Nolan the third, 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: the sixteenth overall pick. We've had a chance to hear 27 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:27,680 Speaker 1: from him. We've had a chance to hear from both 28 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Manti austin Fords and head coach Jonathan Gannon to get 29 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: their thoughts on a disruptive presence along that defensive front. 30 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: You mentioned how there's only one pick this year and many. 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,479 Speaker 1: Austin Ford said it was a lot. You know, it's 32 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 1: pretty calm. The phones were not ringing nearly as much 33 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: that he said that, they were pretty quiet. And when 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: you think back to his first year Paras Johnson junior, 35 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: how he was able to move around the board. Obviously 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: you were wondering about Marvin Harrison Junior. Then towards the 37 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: tail end of the draft, there was that countdown that 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: they had on the flight plan where Marie astin Ford 39 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: was was counting down the picks until Darius Robinson was there. 40 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: So now they have their guy, and Jonathan Gannon said 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: it was the number one guy on his board in 42 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan third. Yeah, he called it if it was 43 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,679 Speaker 1: going to be a perfect day as he got into 44 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: his car, was that Walter Nolan was going to be 45 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:14,799 Speaker 1: an Arizona Cardinal. And that is the case here in 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five. Now, not to date the gentleman on 47 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: the line about to join us here on Cardinals cover two, 48 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: presented by a Hyundai Probud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. 49 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: But back in the day was what nineteen ninety four, 50 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: Rob Frederickson, the selection in the first round of the 51 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, nine year NFL veteran joining us right now 52 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: here on Cardinals cover two. Didn't mean to date you, Rob, 53 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: but welcome. And then just your initial reaction as you're 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 1: watching and the commissioner announces Walter Nolan is the selection 55 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: at sixteen. 56 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it was awesome. You know, I love that pic. 57 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 4: I love Walter Nolan and what he can do for 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 4: the Arizona Cardinals. I never thought he was going to 59 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 4: be available at sixteen. All the talk I'd been hearing 60 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 4: leading up to the draft was that Walter Nolan was 61 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 4: climbing and then you know, you started to see some 62 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 4: picks go before him that were a little bit of 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 4: head scratchers for me, like Grant the defensive, big defensive 64 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 4: tackle for Michigan. I didn't think he'd go that high. 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 4: I didn't think McMillan, the wide receiver from Arizona, would 66 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 4: go where he went. So all of a sudden, now 67 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: some players started to kind of come back to the 68 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals that I hadn't thought we're going to be available. 69 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 4: And Walter Nolan, for me, is just an exceptional pick. 70 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 4: I mean what he can do in terms of just 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 4: being a disruptive force. He's a guy that lives on 72 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 4: the offensive side of the line of scrimmage. He is 73 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 4: I mean, he penetrates and he gets into the backfield 74 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 4: quicker than most defensive tackles in this league. So I'm 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 4: excited to see what he can do for the Arizona Cardinals. 76 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 3: Is it his hands? The paddle of well what what? 77 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 3: What is it that makes him so disruptive? Because John 78 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 3: the Gannon and Monti as sapport, they were talking about 79 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: how when they sat him down, the first thing they 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 3: said to him was what do we want to see 81 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: from growth? And Walter Nolan said pad level and then 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: JG's like, yeah, we we agree with that as well. 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 3: But they were complimenting his hands in just the violence 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 3: he plays with. Is that what stood out to you? 85 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's that first step. It's the get 86 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 4: off the ball. Some guys have it and some guys don't, 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: you know, just the ability to time that snap and 88 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 4: get off on the ball with with purpose and and 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: some players you know they fit into offensive linemen. Walter Nolan, 90 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: if you watch him on film, he gets on the 91 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 4: edge and he penetrates and and really causes a lot 92 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 4: of disruption in the blocking schemes for offenses, both in 93 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: the run game end of the pass game. So it's 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 4: just that initial initial burst that you know you either 95 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 4: have it or you don't. And Walter Nolan really has it. 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: Listed as a defensive tackle, but we heard J. G 97 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: mention that he sees Nolan as someone that can play 98 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: across the line of scrimmage. Again, watching Nolan on film 99 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: on Saturdays, rob do you see the same thing. 100 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I think he can be kicked out 101 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:19,159 Speaker 4: to a five technique technique on the on the offensive tackle. 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 4: I love him in that three technique though on outside 103 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 4: shade of the guard. You look at this defensive line 104 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: now and and Darius Robinson's another guy that you can 105 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 4: kind of move around on that intier defensive line. They 106 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: got a lot of options. Klaias Campbell, Dalvin Tomlinson, you know, 107 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: Darius Robinson and and you know now Nolan, I just 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,799 Speaker 4: I really like that combination. Oh, by the way, Dante Stills, 109 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: I love that guy and what he can do. So 110 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 4: there's a there's a good problem that the Arizona Cardinals 111 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 4: have right now. It's it's a lot of depth on 112 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 4: that defensive line. 113 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: And of course there's also Justin Jones and Blal Nichols 114 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 3: and j KYLEI or the guys that are also coming 115 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: back from injury being Jones and Nichols and Johnath again 116 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 3: and said how excited he was to also be welcoming 117 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: them back. Considering you've been in these position rooms. What 118 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: can Walter Nolan warn from some of the veterans like 119 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: Dalvin Tomlinson and Kalays Campbell. 120 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 4: Well, I think it's just number one, it's how to 121 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 4: be a pro. And you hear that a lot tossed around, 122 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 4: But when you get into the NFL, a lot of 123 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 4: time has spent not on the practice field, but in 124 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 4: the classroom and studying film and going over game plans 125 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 4: and truly digging deep and understanding what your opponents do 126 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 4: and what they want to accomplish and how we can 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 4: counteract that. It's going to be the really the studying 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 4: in the classroom and learning how to be a pro 129 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: is going to be the biggest challenge for a lot 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 4: of a lot of these rookies. And you know, Walter 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 4: Nolan's going to have the benefit of and Klais Campbell 132 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: just the ultimate pro to learn from and to understudy 133 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 4: and just to just to be around and absorb some 134 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,559 Speaker 4: of that knowledge that Clayis has. 135 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: I was going to bring that up because I can't 136 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: think of a better quote unquote mentor rob than someone 137 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: like Kalais Campbell. Eighteen years now, and all of a sudden, 138 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: here comes a rookie that, you know, might you know, 139 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 1: battle for playing time. But at the same time, also 140 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I think there could be a quote unquote maybe a 141 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: little bit of a passing to the torch, if you will. 142 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think at this stage of the game Clayis 143 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 4: isn't mad about anyone taking reps from him. I think 144 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 4: he's I think he's okay with you know, thirty to 145 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 4: thirty five snaps a game and and that's that's good. 146 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 4: That's that's where he wants to be and where he 147 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: is and in this stage of his career. And Claus is, 148 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: like I said, he's the ultimate pro. He's going to 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 4: give every bit of knowledge that he has and that 150 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 4: Walter Nolan wants to receive, he will give it. And 151 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 4: so that's it's just a great way of paying it 152 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: back and paying it forward, and that's what makes Clays 153 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 4: Campbell the pro that he is. 154 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: Rob I'm gonna ask you to put on your defensive 155 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 3: coordinator cap on here. How do you divvy up the 156 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: snap total with all these guys? I know you mentioned 157 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 3: it's a good problem, but Walter Nolan is a three 158 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 3: down defensive player. 159 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting how they spread it out. 160 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 4: I'll say this, if I put my defensive coordinator cap on, 161 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 4: one thing I'm not doing with this defensive front. I'm 162 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 4: not blitzing. Okay, Honestly, the blueprint was the Philadelphia Eagles 163 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 4: in the Super Bowl and what they did to the 164 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 4: Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. They didn't need to blitz. 165 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: They got enough pressure with their front four. I think 166 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 4: this defense is looking a lot like that. Philadelphia Eagles 167 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 4: front and that they're not gonna have to blitz, They're 168 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 4: not gonna have to scheme pressure. They're going to bring 169 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 4: it with the four guys that they bring. And so 170 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 4: you're right, there's going to be a challenge there in 171 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: terms of rotation and who plays and who doesn't. But 172 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: I'd rather have that in training camp. I'd rather have 173 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 4: competition at every position, and you know, the best players 174 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 4: play versus whoever's healthy plays. And we've had that for 175 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 4: the last few years, and we all know how that 176 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 4: story ends. 177 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: Getting back to Walter Nolan, the person and the player. 178 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: Rob we heard him talk in pre draft interviews ahead 179 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: of the draft that he wants to be the next 180 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. We heard from him on a conference Colony 181 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: reiterated that he wants to be the next Aaron Donald. 182 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: But hearing him say it, it didn't sound like it 183 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: was cockiness or overconfidence. It's just how he believes in himself. 184 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: But you hear a young player coming into the league 185 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: and you aim high, and you can get any higher 186 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: than an Aaron Donald as far as a defensive lineman. 187 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: But just hearing that from him about now, okay, now 188 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: you've got to back it up. 189 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I've heard a lot of comps, uh for 190 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 4: Aaron Donald and Ed Oliver for Walter Nolan, And I 191 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 4: think that's just because of that again, that get off 192 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: and and getting off the ball and penetrating. And you know, 193 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 4: I like that he wants to be the next Aaron Donald. 194 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 4: I think you should aspire to be like the greatest 195 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 4: of all time. I think you should shoot for that. 196 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 4: And you know, if if he's able to accomplish what 197 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon and Mania supports think that that he can do, 198 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 4: and and have enough faith in him, in him to 199 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 4: draft him sixteenth overall, I think, you know, I think 200 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 4: he has an opportunity to to get to those levels 201 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 4: and to do what what those guys did. And and 202 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 4: you know, Walter, Walter Nolan, He's got a lot to 203 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: learn obviously, and you know it's going to be a 204 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 4: learning curve and there's going to be a process that 205 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 4: he goes through. But I'm really excited based on what 206 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 4: I've seen of him on film and heard from him 207 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 4: in interviews. He sounds like a great guy and I 208 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 4: think he'll fit in really well in this locker room. 209 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 5: Rob. 210 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: We're only a few hours removed from when he heard 211 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 3: his name called. What do you think he's feeling now 212 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: now that the excitement has started to slow down a 213 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 3: little bit, maybe the draft party has calmed down a 214 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,559 Speaker 3: little bit, and then in the next coming days he'll 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 3: be walking into the facility for the first time as 216 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 3: a member of the team. Considering you've gone through this yourself, 217 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: what is going through his mind? 218 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, no player will probably tell you this, but there's 219 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 4: anxiety right now. There's nervousness. There's a lot of unanswered questions. 220 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 4: There's just a ball of nerves because you don't know 221 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: what to expect and you've never played in this league before, 222 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 4: and you're gonna get to your first mini camp and 223 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 4: guys are going to be flying around and you've never 224 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 4: seen the speed with which, especially like the offensive lineman, 225 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 4: relative to what they were in college. Just fast, faster. 226 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 4: It's a faster game, and it takes a little time 227 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 4: to adjust. Some guys do adjust quicker than others, but 228 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 4: there's gonna be a learning curve. There's going to be 229 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 4: an adjustment period, and once you kind of get the 230 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 4: helmet on and get out there and practice and get 231 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 4: used to it, the nerves settle down, the butterflies go away, 232 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 4: and you'll see Walter Nolan just kind of fit right in. 233 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 4: But I promise you right now he's getting a little anxiety, 234 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: getting a little nervous, getting a little butterflies in the stomach, 235 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 4: wondering what's going to happen next. 236 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 1: By the way, Rob MANI listened to you. You said 237 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: way back when that you would not draft anyone that 238 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: didn't put their hand in the dirt. So again I'm 239 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: going to give you credit partial credit for this selection. 240 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm glad he listened. Again. I never thought 241 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: I never thought Nolan would be available at sixteen. I 242 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 4: really didn't. I thought we were going offensive line. But 243 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 4: you know, the guard from Alabama went higher than I 244 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: thought he was going to go. I thought that would 245 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 4: have been a natural pick. But I'm tickled to death. 246 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: I'm excited about Walter Nolan, I really am. And again, 247 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 4: this defense, in just the span of two years of drafts, 248 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 4: this defense I think is shaping up to be one 249 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 4: of the better defenses in the league. 250 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: Rob, appreciate the time, the insights, and we'll look forward 251 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: to hearing more from you in the days and weeks 252 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: to come, because it's gonna be exciting to as we 253 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: talked about the competition now in that defensive line room. 254 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: And I get some rest tonight. Guys, we got a 255 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 4: big day tomorrow too. Draft doesn't end. 256 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, we do appreciate Rob. 257 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: That's Rob Frederickson, former first round pick back in nineteen 258 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: ninety four and a former Arizona Cardinals linebacker. And hey, Zach, 259 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 1: our first round draft pick has arrived, Danny surf the 260 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: drafters over. 261 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 6: Let's get the party started. 262 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: The thirty third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft. 263 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 3: Let the first pick in the Cardinals content draft. 264 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 6: Yes, oh my gosh, I should have down here sooner. 265 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 6: Keep going, keep it coming, all right. 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 1: We'll get to what you've been doing all night long 267 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: conversations with both Gentlemennagermany Austin Ford and head coach Jonathan Gannett. 268 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: But just your initial reaction, your initial thoughts. Cardinals again 269 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: prioritizing defense here in the offseason. They did it in 270 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: a free agency now in the draft with Walter Nolan 271 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,360 Speaker 1: the third I like. 272 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 6: This pick a lot. I like the position, and I 273 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 6: like the player. This was a draft class that the 274 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,479 Speaker 6: depth and the star power was really on the defensive 275 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 6: line and edge, and so that's where the Cardinals went 276 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: And I like that. I like that if you're going 277 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 6: to take a swing on a defensive lineman, somebody who's 278 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: going to be a menace in the trenches more times 279 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 6: than not, you got to use a high first round 280 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 6: pick on them. And yes, the Cardinals were middle of 281 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 6: the pack, but this is typically where you get one 282 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 6: of those long time, game changing defensive lineman. So I 283 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 6: like the fact that the Cardinals went for it with 284 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 6: their first round pick. And this is a position room 285 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 6: that relies heavily on rotation. This is a position room 286 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 6: where the Cardinals battled a lot of injuries last season. 287 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 6: So when you're looking at not just immediate relief, but 288 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 6: depth throughout the season death moving forward. When there's a 289 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 6: handful of players in that defensive line room right now 290 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 6: who are only under contract through twenty twenty five or 291 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 6: don't have guaranteed money in twenty twenty six, this pick 292 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 6: makes a lot of sense. Then you start looking at 293 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 6: the qualities of Nolan as a player and as a person, 294 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 6: and we know that the person comes first, the player second. 295 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 6: With awesome for it, the staff and this organization and 296 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 6: so the fact that the Cardinals talked to Nolan at 297 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 6: the Senior Bowl, at the Combine and brought him in 298 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 6: for a thirty visit tells you they got enough, they 299 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 6: heard and they saw enough for the type of player. 300 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 6: And look, you guys heard it from his conference call, 301 00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: Walter Nolan is ready to get to work. He is 302 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 6: already asking for the playbook. He is ready to come 303 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 6: to the valley and get things going. And I think 304 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 6: that this brings a boost to this defense that's clearly 305 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 6: been the high priority this offseason when you're looking at 306 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 6: acquisitions that have been made right of kalai Is campbell, A, 307 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 6: Dalvin Tomlinson in that room. So the fact that they 308 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 6: continued to beef up the d line tells me. The 309 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 6: discussions we were having as a group on our podcast 310 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 6: after the season about being better at stopping the run, 311 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 6: those conversations were happening on the other side of the building, 312 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 6: and they've done something about it. 313 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: So we were all on the right track, is it 314 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: what you're saying? 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:34,800 Speaker 4: Right? 316 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: We all knew what we thought were the issues that 317 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: needed to be addressed, and I know and it was 318 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: something that was brought up in the post Day one 319 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: draft presser was and Mony brought it up. The injuries. 320 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: You alluded to it as well, Danny, as far as 321 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: last year, Well, it's been two years. The defensive line 322 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: has been hit with injuries. Yes, it's a great problem 323 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: to have here with eleven now in that room talking 324 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: here late April, I'm anxious to see what happens now 325 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: in this remaining months before we get to training camp 326 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: and then September when the season rolls around, Zach and 327 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: figure out, all right, what do you do. You're keeping six, 328 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: you're keeping seven? Dare I say eight? And do we 329 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: see a little bit of a different defensive look prior 330 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: or before than what we hadn't seen in the first 331 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: two years. 332 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 3: Certainly, Well, kudos to you both, because when you're at 333 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: the combine, that's when the conversation about Walter Nolan being 334 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: projected and mocked to the Cardinals really started to become 335 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: a thing because we heard about the depth and how 336 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: loaded this class was at edge rusher and defensive tackle. 337 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 3: And now that all comes to fruition on Thursday with 338 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 3: this draft pick of Walter Noan, It's going to be 339 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 3: very interesting. What does that and what does his addition 340 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: mean to guys like LJ. Kylli or to Dante Stills. 341 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 3: They play a very similar role that three technique, being 342 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:51,639 Speaker 3: able to be right in between the guard and the center. 343 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 3: That was where Walter Nolan truly excelled. But Johnathan Gannon 344 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 3: gave him his props and said he's able to play 345 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 3: all along the defensive line. I do not like. I 346 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: question what Nick Rollis is going to be doing as 347 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: he's trying to divvy up this snap tootal, because Walter 348 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: Nolan does make a huge dent into what that snap 349 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: tootal and that rotation is really going to look. 350 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 6: Like you want to get better at a position you 351 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 6: bring in competition. So that is almost an embarrassment of 352 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 6: riches right when you could have worse problems to have 353 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 6: than having a lot of competition in that defensive line room. 354 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 6: What I like about Nolan is his production at ole 355 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 6: miss is not just in one facet. He called himself 356 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 6: a unicorm that he can do a little bit of everything, 357 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 6: and his stats support that. In the middle of the 358 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 6: pocket he is clogging the gaps and he's also able 359 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 6: to get to the quarterback fourteen tackles for lost, six 360 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 6: and a half sacks, so that production has been there. 361 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 6: Now it's just a matter of transferring that production from 362 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 6: a college level into the pros. 363 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: Good against the run, good against the pass, and a 364 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: good person first and foremost. I reference your day, Danny 365 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: as far as your interviews, not only during the draft 366 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: but after the draft, but immediately after the sixteenth overall 367 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: pick was made. GM Monti Austin Ford stepped out of 368 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: the draft room in your conversation, how about we hear 369 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: what many had to tell you and the Bird Gang 370 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 1: about Walter. 371 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 6: Nolan Monty with the sixteenth pick, you go with defensive 372 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 6: tackle Walter Nolan from Ole Miss. Why was he the 373 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 6: right pick for this organization? 374 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, Danny, Walter, you know, he's played at a high 375 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 5: level of competition. He started his career at Texas A 376 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 5: and M. He was there for two years and then 377 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 5: finished this past season an Old Miss, So he's gone 378 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 5: up against good players. He's a disruptive player, he's a 379 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 5: three down player. He's good against the run, he's good 380 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 5: against the pass, he's long, he plays with power, and 381 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 5: he's a violent player. You know, we had a good, 382 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 5: good interactions with Walter both times meeting him at the 383 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,239 Speaker 5: We actually met him at the Senior Bowl and then 384 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,120 Speaker 5: the Combine then brought him in here for a thirty 385 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 5: visit and had good, good meetings with him all along 386 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 5: the way. So really excited to add him to our 387 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 5: defense and bring a disruptive presence as an interior rusher. 388 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,200 Speaker 6: Beefing up the trenches. Monty, your third draft you make 389 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 6: a life changing call night one. So to have that 390 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 6: opportunity here tonight with Walter Nolan, you go back to 391 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 6: the first one he made with Paris Johnson Junior. Still 392 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 6: just as special for. 393 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 5: You, Yeah, Danny. So it's one of the best parts 394 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 5: of my job. I mean, it's a dream come true 395 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 5: for these guys and for their families, and they put 396 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 5: so much time and effort into that, and it really is. 397 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 5: It really is a life changing call and a life 398 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 5: changing opportunity. So just really excited to add good people 399 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 5: and get them in here to our building and can't 400 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 5: wait to get Gwalter in here to meet the rest 401 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 5: of the organization tomorrow. 402 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 6: Well, Monty, you're busy, man, so I'll let you head 403 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 6: back into the draft room. Appreciate the time. 404 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 5: Thanks, Danny. 405 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: You can hear it in Manni's voice. Yeah, it's year three, 406 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:33,959 Speaker 1: but picking up that phone to call whomever it is, 407 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: whether that's the first round, second, third, seventh round selection, 408 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 1: because it is life changing, and I think I think 409 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Moni gets almost as much out of it as the 410 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: person on the other end of the line, because their 411 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: lives have just changed. 412 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 6: I actually asked Manni a little bit more about that 413 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,479 Speaker 6: when I had the opportunity to do a one on 414 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 6: one sit down interview with him after the first round 415 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 6: had concluded, and I'd asked him about why it's so 416 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 6: important for him to tell the person on the other 417 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: end of that line, because it's every player. It doesn't 418 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 6: matter at the position, it doesn't matter at the pick number. 419 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 6: Moni always tells the player, look around, tell your family 420 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,959 Speaker 6: and friends, thank you, thank you for supporting you. And 421 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 6: that's really important for him as the person and not 422 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 6: just the general manager, but the person making those phone calls. 423 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 6: And there are so many people who come from different 424 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 6: walks of life, and this is such a unique opportunity 425 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 6: that so few people have the opportunity to experience. And 426 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 6: I think that says a lot about the type of 427 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 6: person and therefore the type of leader that Mani awesome for. 428 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 6: It is for this organization. 429 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 3: For all the talk about Walter Nolan and all these 430 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: character concerns, he said that the Cardinals were the one 431 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 3: team that just genuinely wanted to get to know him 432 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 3: as a person. And JG said that's one of the 433 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: reasons why he fell in love with Walter Nolan being 434 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 3: his number one selection, because he got to meet the guy. 435 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: He got to see the heart. And he was talking 436 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 3: about how he's a little bit shy and when you 437 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 3: start to hear Walter Nolan say I'm the next Aaron Donald, 438 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 3: it's tough to believe that. But JG was telling us 439 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: he's a little bit shy, but once you get to 440 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 3: know him, he's this lovable guy. But there's something about 441 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 3: him when he's able to turn on that switch and 442 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: he's able to go into that violent, explosive defensive tackle. 443 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: And in your conversation with with Moni Danny, he brought 444 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 3: up the Senior Bowl. Think back to last year who 445 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,080 Speaker 3: stood out to the Cardinals at the Senior Bowl. It 446 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 3: was Darius Robinson. So these pre draft all star games 447 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: that these college players go to, they matter and they 448 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 3: do make a difference. 449 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 6: Especially when the Cardinals have coaches on staffs of these 450 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 6: All Star games. When you hear a coach say he 451 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 6: was our number one guy. Sometimes you know when it's 452 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 6: later on in the round, not at sixteen, but later. 453 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 6: Sometimes it's easy to think, Okay, well, well that's who's there. 454 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 6: But that's not the case here because when you look 455 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 6: at the players and the talent that was still available 456 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 6: at sixteen, other defensive lineman, edge players, offensive lineman, the 457 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 6: board really fell in Arizona's favor. So the fact that 458 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 6: they went with Nolan really does tell you he was top. 459 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 3: Of their list to that point. 460 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 1: JG post draft press conference talking about Walter Nolan quote today, 461 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: the perfect world was getting in my car and having 462 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: Walter Nolan on the team end quote. I mean that. 463 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: And again you get that guy Zach at sixteen, where 464 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: it certainly sounds like he was top ten, top five overall, 465 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 1: not just as far as defensive players. 466 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: What was ice Cube stay today? It was a good day. 467 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 3: Isn't that how the song goes? Today was a great 468 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 3: day for the Arizona Cardinals, and he is going to 469 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,399 Speaker 3: make a difference. I'm excited to see Walter Nolan and 470 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 3: Minie Camp seeing how he's able to mesh with some 471 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 3: of his teammates, because that is a loaded room and 472 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 3: I would love to be a fly on the wall 473 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: there when you get to learn from some of the 474 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 3: NFL's best, like a Kalays Campbell. 475 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 6: That's the point I was just gonna make, as we've 476 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 6: talked after the Campbell signing, of being a role model 477 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 6: for players like Darius Robinson, even like an LJ. Collier 478 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 6: still Dante Still. So now you've got a rookie coming in, 479 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 6: he's going to learn from maybe one of the best 480 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 6: leaders and somebody that can really show him the ropes. 481 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 6: I mean, Walter Nolan is in a great position. 482 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Here, I reference JG. How about we hear more from 483 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals head coach immediately after the selection was made 484 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: again walking out of the draft room and speaking with you, 485 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: Danny Coach, what was. 486 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 6: The reaction in the draft room when you guys made 487 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: the decision to go with Walter Nolan at pick sixteen. 488 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 7: A lot of excitement, A lot of excitement. Had a 489 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 7: guy We've had him pegged for a long time, got 490 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 7: to know him throughout the whole process. I discusted an 491 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,879 Speaker 7: unbelievable job on him and just excited ad him to 492 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 7: our squad. 493 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: Last season, the defensive tackle had fourteen tackles for lost 494 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 6: six and a half sacks. How did your defense get 495 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 6: better with Nolan? 496 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 7: He's just a disruptive player in the running pass game, 497 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 7: so we and he can play up and down the line. 498 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 7: So he's going to come in here. He's going to 499 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 7: put his head down, go to work and help us 500 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 7: win games. 501 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 6: JG appreciates time. Un lets you get back in the 502 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 6: draft room, appreciate it. 503 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: So between MANI and JG, I counted three times the 504 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: word disruptive was used to describe Walter Nolan. And again, 505 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a word that you just throw 506 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,959 Speaker 1: out there unless it's something that one you truly believe. 507 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: And then maybe first and foremost, first you saw it 508 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: on tape, and then second of all, amongst your discussions 509 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: with the scouts and your coaches that yes, he is 510 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 1: not only disruptive in college, but we believe he can 511 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: be disruptive here in the NFL. 512 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 6: That's what you want out of someone in the trenches. 513 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 6: Not dirty, but you want him nasty. You want him 514 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 6: to go and you want him to make life difficult 515 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 6: for an offensive lineman. You want him to tackle a 516 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 6: running back for loss. You want to get to the quarterback, 517 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 6: and that is disruption, and that is something that this 518 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:53,680 Speaker 6: defensive line. It was not their strong suit last season. 519 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 6: Now there were a lot of aerials right, a lot 520 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 6: of injuries and as a whole, but the fact that 521 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 6: the Cardinals have beefed up that room as much as 522 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 6: they have this offseason, I am expecting it to be 523 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 6: a very very different level of output. 524 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: You want to dog on that defensive line and to 525 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: somebody that has that pit bull mentality of they're not 526 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 3: going to stop at anybody or at anything, and throughout 527 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 3: so many times. I mean, Dan, you come from the 528 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: SEC where those double teams they have, they have no 529 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 3: shame in double teaming some defensive linemen, especially those big 530 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 3: body guys that are right above those center though the 531 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 3: one technique three technique and Walter Nolan just toyed around 532 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 3: with those players and lived in opposing offenses backfield. So 533 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: when you now add that to the mix, somebody that 534 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 3: has no issue getting their hand in the dirt and 535 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: getting through the gap, They're going to take it any 536 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 3: day of the week. 537 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fascinating how this plays out. There'll be 538 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: plenty of time to discuss it in the coming days, weeks, 539 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: and months, But I'm again just my initial reaction based 540 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: off what has been done, what has been added, not 541 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: only the defensive line, but outside linebacker. I'm thinking that 542 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: this defense is going to look a lot different as 543 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: far as personnel. How many defensive linemen you now see 544 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 1: on the football field compared to how many times there 545 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 1: were one or two or no one with their hand 546 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: in the dirt. I think Nick Ralis now has the 547 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: personnel and with Jonathan Gannon going back to Philadelphia where 548 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: you could just have four guys rush at once and 549 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: everyone else can drop back. 550 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 6: This was the expectation. Timing wise, when you get a 551 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 6: new staff and you get a new general manager, you're 552 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 6: not going to be able to completely turn things around overnight. 553 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 6: It takes time, and so year one was kind of 554 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 6: figuring out the players that are going to be a 555 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 6: best fit for this culture and for this team moving forward. 556 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 6: In year two was about setting that foundation, and we 557 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 6: saw that with twelve draft picks, and that's the best 558 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 6: way to set a culture is to bring in young players. 559 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 6: So this is what they know. And so now you're 560 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,479 Speaker 6: in year three, and now you've got to go for it. 561 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 6: And that's what these moves tell us when you look 562 00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 6: at the acquisitions throughout free agency and this first PA 563 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 6: get sixteen with Walter Nolan. So this is the trajectory 564 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 6: that the Cardinals have been on, and they have focused 565 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 6: a lot on offense the first few years. When you're 566 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 6: looking at some of the big moves, there was a 567 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 6: lot of consistency on that side of the ball this offseason. 568 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 6: So now we've seen a big uptick and the attention 569 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 6: to defense, and so I think that they are on 570 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 6: the right track. And when you've got a defensive minded 571 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 6: head coach like you do in Gannon, I think a 572 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 6: lot of damage could. 573 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 3: Be done the continuity along the offense. You are adding 574 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 3: so many pieces throughout the previous two seasons to that 575 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 3: offense to completely make you look different. And now you 576 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 3: need that continuity to turn into production on the defensive 577 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 3: side of the ball. You need to revamp a lot 578 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 3: of different things. And that's exactly what the Cardinals have 579 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 3: done by adding Josh Webb, by adding all the players 580 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 3: in the trenches we talked about, and you mentioned his 581 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 3: ties to back to Philadelphia. I mean, think about it. 582 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: It was the Javon Hargraz Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham era 583 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: where they had no problem where like Brick Robb was 584 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 3: saying on the phone, he's not going to necessarily be 585 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 3: blitzing that much because you want your defensive front to 586 00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 3: just be able to get by the offensive lineman and 587 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 3: windows one on one battles. That is what this Cardinals 588 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 3: defensive line is really starting to look like they're gonna 589 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 3: be able to accomplish. All right, So real quick, what's 590 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: next with two picks coming up on Friday in the 591 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 3: second round and third round, it's forty seven and seventy eight, respectfully, 592 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 3: MANI obviously very confident about where the board is at 593 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: as ay go into day two. I don't know if 594 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 3: if there's a certain position, but maybe you can look 595 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: maybe at edge, and again I'm big on adding to 596 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 3: the defense, whether that's edge or cornerback, or helping solidify 597 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 3: the offensive line a little bit. But certainly, again going 598 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 3: back to how this offseason has played out, Danny, the 599 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: Cardinals are in position to literally take the best player available, 600 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 3: regardless of position. We saw it here on Day one, 601 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 3: and I would not expect it to change day two 602 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 3: or Day three. 603 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 6: That's an ideal offseason, as you can show up for 604 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 6: the draft and you don't feel pressured or forced to 605 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 6: take a certain position. When you're looking at Day two, 606 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 6: rounds two and three, the Cardinals had three picks, two 607 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 6: picks forty seven and seventy eight. Offensive line is still 608 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 6: in need. Now, is there enough depth to where that 609 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 6: is the right call at forty seven or seventy eight, 610 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 6: I'm not sure. I think the safer bets will probably 611 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 6: be edge and maybe wide receiver. I would not be 612 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 6: surprised if they go edge at forty seven and wide 613 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 6: receiver at seventy eight, just because there is so much 614 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 6: talent at those positions. 615 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they go after an inside 616 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 3: linebacker or like Carson Schlessinger, the linebacker from Ucla. He 617 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: started to rise up a lot of draft boards. He 618 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 3: was projected as like as a late Day two pick, 619 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 3: and then there were some conversations and granted now that 620 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 3: the first round is concluded, to see how Jaha Campbell 621 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 3: slid down the board all the way down to thirty 622 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 3: one at Philadelphia, the topic of conversation with Carson sliding 623 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 3: into the first round now absolutely seems very moot, So 624 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if they add somebody like him. 625 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: There's also that cornerback Will Johnson. He's still on the board. 626 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 3: I know the injury is a call of concern, but 627 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: if you are willing to look by, if you're willing 628 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,880 Speaker 3: to look past, and you feel like you did your 629 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 3: due diligence, he is a player that was arguably a 630 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 3: top ten pick before the injury start to become a thing. 631 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: If you're going to look at offensive line, you have 632 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 3: the offensive lineman from Arizona, you know, I know, I 633 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 3: mentioned Jared Wilson from Georgia the center. He's another player 634 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,520 Speaker 3: that you can move over to guard. So there are 635 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: still some options for MANI. But I also wouldn't be 636 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: surprised if they try to move up, you know, early 637 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: on in the second round, because there are a lot 638 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,240 Speaker 3: of good first round grade players. 639 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 6: Well, we don't know for sure it was injury that 640 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 6: kept cornerback Will Johnson out of the first round. If 641 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 6: that is the case, look at what the Cardinals have done. 642 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 6: They've drafted cornerback Garrett Williams, who entered the draft still 643 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 6: recovering from a knee injury at Syracuse. They took a 644 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:47,000 Speaker 6: chance on wide receiver Michael Wilson, who had been nicked 645 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 6: up at his time at Stanford, and those two picks 646 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 6: have worked out. If that is the case of why 647 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 6: Johnson slid out of the first round, that would make 648 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 6: sense of if you're going to take a first round 649 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 6: pick for a player, right, you kind of want them 650 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 6: to come in and be ready and a team maybe 651 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 6: don't think that. Again, we don't know. We don't have 652 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 6: confirmation on any of that being the reason. I'm just saying, 653 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 6: if that is the case, the Cardinals have shown that 654 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 6: they do a nice job doing their due diligence and 655 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 6: taking a chance on the right type of players. 656 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: If that's the case, you can slow play when you 657 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: have an injury based off what you already have in 658 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: those particular rooms, and there's no need to throw that 659 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:25,600 Speaker 1: player in immediately. So again, we'll have to wait and see. 660 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: But a good first day. Good work from everyone, including 661 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: the two of you, both on and off camera. More 662 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: on camera for Danny. But I know it's been a 663 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: long day for everyone. 664 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 6: It's been fun though. I appreciate you guys. Let me 665 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 6: hop on. 666 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: Hey, day ones now in the books, so let's get 667 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: ready for day two. 668 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:43,680 Speaker 6: You gonna wear a nice suit on Friday and Saturday, Zach, I. 669 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 3: Do not know, but jg compliment in my suit, so 670 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 3: day was officially made. 671 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: A win win for Zach Gershman. By the way, on 672 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: this special edition of Cardinals Cover two is we got 673 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 1: the video I need to shout out Alex Greenberg, which 674 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: I failed to do in our first show. So special 675 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: thanks to Alex and as always, special thanks to our 676 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim Mama Hundre, our associate producer Cody Fincher. 677 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: For Zach Gershman, Danny Sirek, I'm Craig Realu. We'll talk 678 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two