Speaker 1: Once upon a time there was a good old traditional housewife.
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Speaker 2: I'm Erica and I'm Mela, and it's Wednesday. It is
Speaker 2: welcome back to the Good Mom Show. How are you feeling?
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Speaker 3: We're doing this episode from home today, which is very rare.
Speaker 3: We decided to honor our energy and keep it in
Speaker 3: the crib, so I feel good. I put makeup on,
Speaker 3: and shit, I got lipliner overdrawn on my lips and
Speaker 3: stuff like I'm going somewhere. But if you saw what
Speaker 3: I was wearing under below this shirt, I'm still in
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Speaker 1: Me?
Speaker 2: Do you wear that one? When you pick up Iri
Speaker 2: from school?
Speaker 3: I wear all of our I think I talked to
Speaker 3: you about this on the few episodes ago. I don't
Speaker 3: not wear our merch. I don't spare my child's feelings
Speaker 3: when it comes to my merch because I created this.
Speaker 3: This is my shit, and I want and I know
Speaker 3: when other moms, and it happens every time I wear
Speaker 3: it and I go to the school, they're like, oh
Speaker 3: my God, where suld I'm like, I need it. So
Speaker 3: I think that we should normalize wearing statement pieces.
Speaker 2: Just schools to school pick up.
Speaker 3: These parents know who we are and don't add me
Speaker 3: to the group text bitch. Maybe I'll prevent her about
Speaker 3: unless you're with the shits.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll present them from asking for sleepovers and play dates.
Speaker 2: That's fine, I hate and Lona's like, can you get
Speaker 2: some and seose mom's numbers if you have a play date?
Speaker 3: And no, at this point, I know I don't. I
Speaker 3: don't do that anymore, and say, if you want me
Speaker 3: to have the you get her mom's number. I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go search the databases of the onlines of
Speaker 3: the log into the school portal that I can't remember
Speaker 3: to try and find this bitch's phone number and also
Speaker 3: text her randomly like hey, this is ives.
Speaker 2: I've done that, and I will.
Speaker 3: But also like, I think our kids are old enough
Speaker 3: to be like, hey, what's your phone number?
Speaker 2: Write it on a piece of paper and get yeah,
Speaker 2: literal will bring home the paper. I'm like, Okay, I'll
Speaker 2: do what I gotta do. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But honestly, this summer, like Iri hasn't really been like
Speaker 3: hanging out so much with her friends from school. This
Speaker 3: is the first summer that I haven't put her in
Speaker 3: camp at her school, and it was by design because
Speaker 3: I really wanted her to like branch out and like
Speaker 3: have other experiences, go to the sleep away camp that
Speaker 3: we had sent our kids to, and also like I
Speaker 3: wanted to have more flexibility, And I think that she's
Speaker 3: actually enjoyed it more like she's still fucking sleeping right now.
Speaker 3: First of all, if she was in camp, she would
Speaker 3: be on her tenth activity, which is great too, But
Speaker 3: I just feel like I just needed this summer to
Speaker 3: like not feel like I had to adhere to a
Speaker 3: strict pickup, drop off schedule, even though those hours away
Speaker 3: do help, but I think it's also helped me slow
Speaker 3: down to like in parenting and like having to like
Speaker 3: figure things out with her, be more present with her,
Speaker 3: and like I'm really focused on just like deepening our relationship,
Speaker 3: and I felt like summer camp was actually like hindering
Speaker 3: that because she was gone most of the day. It
Speaker 3: was like she was in school, and so like she
Speaker 3: spends all year away from me in school, so me
Speaker 3: not putting her in camp this summer, I feel like
Speaker 3: it has been a really good thing for our relationship.
Speaker 3: I've seen how our relationship has like deepened and there's
Speaker 3: more trust and she's sharing more, and I think a
Speaker 3: lot of the worry that I had is starting to
Speaker 3: dissipate because I felt like, oh my god, she.
Speaker 2: Doesn't talk to me. What am I doing?
Speaker 3: Like I felt like I'm doing everything my mom didn't
Speaker 3: do on purpose because I didn't want to talk to
Speaker 3: her about shit. And here I am, like, you can
Speaker 3: tell me anything, nothing will get you in trouble, and
Speaker 3: she's like not saying shit. So I think it was
Speaker 3: just like a matter of just spending more time together.
Speaker 3: So I actually advocate for not sending your kid to
Speaker 3: some camp all fucking summer. I know parents are like.
Speaker 2: But I need the break.
Speaker 3: I mean, and you have if you have multiple kids,
Speaker 3: like I get it, Like I only got one, and
Speaker 3: she's like self sufficient and mature.
Speaker 2: I'm lucky, So yeah, I the summer break is for
Speaker 2: me too, Like I'm not waking up at eight am
Speaker 2: to take you to camp. In fact, when she did
Speaker 2: do school camp with Irate, it was actually in my
Speaker 2: benefit because her grandmother lives closer to the school, so
Speaker 2: in a lot of times we'd be not here, so
Speaker 2: I that was my like, here, she's going to camp
Speaker 2: from your house. But yeah, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: is acceptable to say, but I fucking despise waking up
Speaker 2: in the morning and making lunch and picking up like
Speaker 2: pick up school drop off, some pickups. I would really
Speaker 2: like Luna. I would really like me to get my
Speaker 2: shit together so she'd be homeschooled, so I could get
Speaker 2: rich and have a twenty four hour tutor or whatever
Speaker 2: eight hour day tutor. Because as a child I hated
Speaker 2: waking up in the morning to go to school all
Speaker 2: all all the way to high school. So when I
Speaker 2: turned around and had a kid and I had to
Speaker 2: start fucking taking her, I was like, I didn't even
Speaker 2: get a good break. Twenty years is not enough. I
Speaker 2: mean how many years did I get, Like eighteen? I
Speaker 2: mean yeah, it just wasn't enough. And so I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I like not having a schedule, and I like along
Speaker 2: with the flow. I mean, I'm maybe irin. Me and
Speaker 2: Luna and Orlando just came back from a camping trip,
Speaker 2: which I really felt was like an extension of their
Speaker 2: overnight camp. She was like, this is basically what we
Speaker 2: did at camp. I was like, perfect, it's family camp
Speaker 2: and it was really really fun and really nice. She
Speaker 2: had had a bucket list for the camp like for summer,
Speaker 2: and one of the things was like, I want to
Speaker 2: going camping, and I really wanted to go camping too
Speaker 2: since that last time Adventure Bay took us one hundred
Speaker 2: years ago. But I have no equipment. So finally, my friend,
Speaker 2: my best friend, who I've known for like fifteen years,
Speaker 2: she moved up north and she was like, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: come down and busit you guys. And then she was
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna go back on Tuesday, and I was
Speaker 2: like why and because we're going camping And I was like, well,
Speaker 2: can we go? And She's like sure, we could drive
Speaker 2: back up together. So we did meet her her sister Luna.
Speaker 2: We all drove back up together and we had the
Speaker 2: best time. We're just like playing games in the car,
Speaker 2: doing tiktoks, just being silly and it was really fun
Speaker 2: and like packed the whole car up with fucking tents
Speaker 2: and sleeping bags and food. Orlando of course seasoned Jamaican
Speaker 2: chicken to travel eight hours off the coast so we
Speaker 2: could go camping. And like you take a boat, you
Speaker 2: take a boat from the dock, you took all your
Speaker 2: shit on there. You go to this little island across
Speaker 2: from the dock. There's no bathrooms. There's like a floating
Speaker 2: bathroom that you have to go to a huge, beautiful lake.
Speaker 2: And we were there for like five days. We were
Speaker 2: only supposed to be there for three, but every time
Speaker 2: it was time to go, it was just like impossible
Speaker 2: to get out of there. Luna's like they caught a fish,
Speaker 2: they skinned it, they saw the whole process. She was
Speaker 2: really intrigued by that, and like we saw a bear.
Speaker 2: Like it was just really fun and all day long
Speaker 2: we just sat in the sun. We get to go
Speaker 2: paddle boarding and swim and went on like boats and
Speaker 2: like rafting. It was really really fun. She met like
Speaker 2: she met two new friends. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: I managed to have host sleepovers on a campsite cause
Speaker 2: some people were just coming for the day. And I
Speaker 2: met this mom and she had two girls around in
Speaker 2: the same age as Luna, and she was like can
Speaker 2: they do I was like, they can stay, and she's
Speaker 2: like really, And I was like, yeah, I don't really
Speaker 2: get a break offten I was like, go girl, just
Speaker 2: let them let her stay. Let them stay. Me and
Speaker 2: Lando on this like tiny, literally one person tent, but
Speaker 2: it was really fun. We didn't bathe really for like
Speaker 2: five days. We went down once to the house to
Speaker 2: go like take showers and come back. Can you like
Speaker 2: bathe in the lake or something. Yeah, I just drink
Speaker 2: a natural soapy bathed in the lake. But we just
Speaker 2: like the parents partied at night. We barely slept and
Speaker 2: then we just like everybody communal like communal, cooked, barbecued,
Speaker 2: made breakfast for the kids. Was hell of kids. It
Speaker 2: had to be at least like seventy people, a lot
Speaker 2: of teenagers. My friend who host the whole thing has
Speaker 2: like four kids of all different ages, so they're all
Speaker 2: her friends, all her kids friends from school. I was like,
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm in a high school party. I
Speaker 2: was like, Kat, we're outnumbered, bitch, I need you to
Speaker 2: have less high schoolers. And they're like Hippi high schoolers,
Speaker 2: so they smoke weed. It was very interesting, but it
Speaker 2: was like family camp. And I really enjoyed that time
Speaker 2: with Luna and like that experience because none of us
Speaker 2: have ever camped for that long. Orlando has never camped
Speaker 2: at all, so it was really fun and beautiful to
Speaker 2: just like and I realized I don't have like as adults,
Speaker 2: you know, me and Shawnie were friends when I was
Speaker 2: in like college ish, but you don't have a lot
Speaker 2: of responsibilities, so I mean we were neighbors, but like
Speaker 2: since then, every time I've been in Atlanta, it's been
Speaker 2: for like a show, we're for a speaking event, and
Speaker 2: we haven't like we'll have like a couple hours or
Speaker 2: a day to shoot the shit, but then everybody has
Speaker 2: shit to do, so it's just nice to be like,
Speaker 2: let's just chill for a week and talk and hang
Speaker 2: out and part Like it's like, I think that we
Speaker 2: don't give our adult friendships enough like downtime. You have
Speaker 2: a lunch for two hours. You might visit for a
Speaker 2: weekend or whatever, but like overall, I hadn't just like
Speaker 2: chilled with my friend for a week. So it was
Speaker 2: like really nice to just oh, yeah, hey, like there's
Speaker 2: no rush, I don't have to get everything out in
Speaker 2: two hours. I don't have to hear everything that's happened
Speaker 2: I missed. So it was just nice to just be
Speaker 2: able to chill. And I just I recommend that I
Speaker 2: think a lot of times in adulthood, old friends are
Speaker 2: long distance friends. We don't get a chance to just
Speaker 2: block out a certain amount of time, because there's no
Speaker 2: time for that, but like it's necessary to shoot the
Speaker 2: shit and just like chill. So I really we had
Speaker 2: a really good time. That's great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I went camping years ago.
Speaker 3: I haven't done that kind of camping since I was
Speaker 3: like in high school. I went to Montana with a
Speaker 3: boyfriend and we canoed down the river for days.
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, I thought about you.
Speaker 3: And we bathed in the lake or the river and
Speaker 3: all that. But yeah, after that experience, like it was beauty.
Speaker 3: Floyd loved it. But the fucking moment I got to civilization,
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, yeah, I need a real fucking shower,
Speaker 3: I need a real bed and air conditioning. Yeah, like yeah,
Speaker 3: you take you realize like the things you like, the
Speaker 3: little things you take for granted. Like even though you
Speaker 3: enjoyed it, like you come back and you're like, thank god,
Speaker 3: this is it.
Speaker 2: Every day it was so hot. There was like we're
Speaker 2: like on an incline, so like every like going up
Speaker 2: the hill was a lot. Sleeping on the floor, I
Speaker 2: mean that hot water shit and also taking a shit,
Speaker 2: Like we had a toilet set up in the back
Speaker 2: of the forest and it was fine, but like I
Speaker 2: almost had to train my body, like you don't have
Speaker 2: to shit right now. You don't have to unless did
Speaker 2: you have any forest tories forest tories? I didn't. I'm
Speaker 2: camping hories. We fucked every day we were there on
Speaker 2: the ground in the tent. So yeah, at first, I
Speaker 2: was just like paranoid, that can people hear us? It's
Speaker 2: like not as loud as the jungle, you know, it's quiet.
Speaker 2: There's literally fifty people camping out. It's a long spanning
Speaker 2: like of a little area, but still there's people all around.
Speaker 2: But it was great. And then we could like lift
Speaker 2: the tent thing up so you could see the stars
Speaker 2: and the moon, and I'm like, this is sexy outside sexy,
Speaker 2: you know what it feels. It feels very primal. I
Speaker 2: was like, this makes sense. Sleeping on the ground, fucking
Speaker 2: under the stars, this is what God intended. That felt
Speaker 2: very uh tribal. So it was nice. It was really fun.
Speaker 2: It's nice, you know.
Speaker 3: Speaking of friends, I had a friend come to stay
Speaker 3: with me last week. I've been like renting out my
Speaker 3: room in my house to very select people and like
Speaker 3: a few months, like a month ago, I had a
Speaker 3: friend from Abu Dabi she stayed with me for like
Speaker 3: two months, and then my friend Anishka she came and
Speaker 3: stayed for a week. And it's true, like I have
Speaker 3: actually met Anishka on the internet like years ago, and
Speaker 3: so much of our lives has changed since then. Like
Speaker 3: she was not married at the time, no kids, I was.
Speaker 3: I was still with Friday at the time, and we
Speaker 3: just like connected. I don't even know how I think.
Speaker 3: I just like thought she was pretty and I just
Speaker 3: commented on her picture. I was looky, probably trying to
Speaker 3: flirt with her or something, You're so pretty, Yeah, because
Speaker 3: I don't know how to flirt with women, and what
Speaker 3: the fuck?
Speaker 2: I don't know how to do that.
Speaker 3: That's not my forte. This is why I'm not a lesbian.
Speaker 3: Maybe if I could get my flirting with women confidence
Speaker 3: that I could be, it could be a real lesso.
Speaker 2: Anyway, it evolved past that, and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I realized, like we've never really hung out like
Speaker 3: for more than like two apps, maybe an hour and
Speaker 3: a half for lunch and stuff. And so you know,
Speaker 3: she came and she stayed for a week, and we
Speaker 3: got to like really like spend time together, really understand
Speaker 3: each other. She's like a piscy she's super into astrology,
Speaker 3: So like I learned so much about myself and astrology
Speaker 3: and all the stars and every person in my fucking
Speaker 3: life and why they do this and why they do
Speaker 3: that and why I'm doing this and da da da da,
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was really just nice to like connect
Speaker 3: with a woman that like I don't really know that
Speaker 3: well and like create a new bond in that way
Speaker 3: in my home. And so I was like, I really
Speaker 3: actually enjoy these like little short like stints at my
Speaker 3: house with people.
Speaker 2: I know I do know.
Speaker 3: Like there's a woman that's interested in staying in my
Speaker 3: house right now, but she wants to stay for six months.
Speaker 3: I was like, bitch, I don't know about that.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 3: I saw her Instagram and she's doing a lot of
Speaker 3: tiktoks and I was like, I'm gonna get annoyed.
Speaker 2: Not a lot of ticks. You might get inspired, you
Speaker 2: might get some of tiktoks.
Speaker 3: And she's making a lot of Jamaican tiktoks.
Speaker 2: What is a Jamaican TikTok?
Speaker 3: She's like playing Jamaican aunties.
Speaker 2: And all types of shit. But like the acting, like
Speaker 2: the funny acting. I don't like those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, she's sweet. I don't want to talk shit,
Speaker 3: she's great. I just don't know if like six months
Speaker 3: is like my steeze when it comes to this. I'm
Speaker 3: but I like the little short, cute stint skill a
Speaker 3: little information, we get something out a little bit, then
Speaker 3: you get the fucked out of my home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't think you could do six months.
Speaker 3: I mean, granted I'm not home a lot, but I
Speaker 3: just I don't know. I don't know, but I did
Speaker 3: enjoy our time together and and now like we like
Speaker 3: we're checking in with each other. So it's like making
Speaker 3: like adult friends, like late in life adult friends. I
Speaker 3: mean obviously like we we made friends as adults as well,
Speaker 3: but we made like I dont want to say, but
Speaker 3: we made we made friends that we became friends though
Speaker 3: because we literally were going through the exact same thing
Speaker 3: at the exact same time. So we had this like
Speaker 3: who you and I, Yeah, like we have this like
Speaker 3: glue that bonded us together where it's like different when
Speaker 3: you like meet someone and it's like not necessarily going
Speaker 3: through the same thing at the same time, and like,
Speaker 3: but like maintaining those friendships can sometimes feel challenging if
Speaker 3: there's not necessarily a parallel thing happening in your life
Speaker 3: that you guys can relate to or like alond together.
Speaker 2: Also, we started we started a business in like ten minutes,
Speaker 2: and so I know, yeah, you're like, we're going to
Speaker 2: hang out once a week.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 2: I know it's true. Though, Like as adults, we prioritize.
Speaker 2: I mean, a lot of times we have to to
Speaker 2: the responsibilities of life and our children, and it's very
Speaker 2: rare that we get time to spend time with other
Speaker 2: people the way we did like in high school or
Speaker 2: in college when there wasn't as much responsibility that I
Speaker 2: realized it's like it's super important. Even my friend who
Speaker 2: I'm talking about, who I hung out with, who I
Speaker 2: haven't hung out with in this way in a while,
Speaker 2: Like her kids now are like eighteen. She has twins
Speaker 2: that are eighteen and a third daughter that is sixteen.
Speaker 2: And I grew like they grew up with me when
Speaker 2: they were like I met them when they were two
Speaker 2: and three and getting to see them as women. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, damn, I haven't even really spent time with
Speaker 2: your kids because I've been moving around and like getting
Speaker 2: to see them as women. One of them brought their boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Have they like they live in Atlanta, they go to
Speaker 2: Georgia State, but they were they're visiting for the summer.
Speaker 2: Their boyfriend was there. I'm like, what the fuck do
Speaker 2: you think you are with this boyfriend? But it's just
Speaker 2: like they used to call me mommy, used to pick
Speaker 2: them up from school. That was like my first experience
Speaker 2: being with kids to that capacity, and my first mom
Speaker 2: friend for real, for real, because I was really young.
Speaker 2: We're eight years apart. But like, yeah, like spend times
Speaker 2: with your spend time with your friends kids, like be
Speaker 2: the auntie and like spend time with your friends and
Speaker 2: without having anything to do. And I know that seems
Speaker 2: like such a hard thing because we have bills and shit,
Speaker 2: but like it's necessary and it was really nice and
Speaker 2: it's different. It's sorry, go ahead. I was just like
Speaker 2: and also even with her friends, like at first, I
Speaker 2: was like telling Orlando, like, Okay, I'm gonna warn you
Speaker 2: this is a very interesting group of hippie whites and
Speaker 2: just be prepared. But like even getting to know them
Speaker 2: and hang out with them, like it was a nice
Speaker 2: It was a nice time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes the brunch is not enough. Sometimes the brunch
Speaker 3: is very surface. You're literally just glazing over, like you're
Speaker 3: just checking off check boxes.
Speaker 2: That has the kids. So how's your relationship?
Speaker 3: Ooh that sucks?
Speaker 2: He did?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: Oh crazy? So how's work? Like it's just so there's
Speaker 3: no there's really no it's not even your fault. There's
Speaker 3: just no time for depth, you know. So like when
Speaker 3: you're waking up in the morning with people and like
Speaker 3: like I'm waking up making coffee. She's coming down, We're
Speaker 3: having our coffee, we're drinking. We're drinking our coffee, having
Speaker 3: a joint hula hooping outside I gave I showed her
Speaker 3: my hula.
Speaker 2: Hoops, and now I feel like I feel like that's
Speaker 2: my calling.
Speaker 3: Like I need to like really lead the women to
Speaker 3: hula late hula hula hooping has like become such a
Speaker 3: like literally like a spiritual practice for me, and I
Speaker 3: realize how it how it translates to other women anyway,
Speaker 3: But just.
Speaker 2: Sorry, my brother's texting me.
Speaker 3: Look, my brother wants to come by, like people want
Speaker 3: to come by.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 3: We it was just nice to like get in a
Speaker 3: rhythm with her, and then I like missed like she left,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, sad, I missed her and I just
Speaker 3: called her like this morning, like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: What's going on?
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think it is important to like spend
Speaker 3: consecutive days with your friends and the people that are
Speaker 3: the people that you want to build relationships with, even
Speaker 3: if it's like a new friend, like have her come
Speaker 3: spend the weekend at your house, like you know. I
Speaker 3: think a lot of the women too, Like I know,
Speaker 3: for our retreats, some of the women that come, like
Speaker 3: that's what they end up doing. They're like, oh, they
Speaker 3: send us pictures like they went to go hang out
Speaker 3: like with their like Ariel, and that was the other
Speaker 3: girl's name.
Speaker 2: I can't remember right now, Sam Samantha is that her name? Redhead? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 3: And Emily, No, that's a different that's a different white girl,
Speaker 3: but like two different types of people, right, Like Ariel's
Speaker 3: a black woman from Texas, Like she's black as hell.
Speaker 3: The other girl she white as hale. Redhead went over
Speaker 3: to Ariel's house, spent the night, had Ariel cook her dinner,
Speaker 3: had a girl's night talk like that's what it's about.
Speaker 3: And I think like as we get older, we forget
Speaker 3: to do that. We like have these like very designated
Speaker 3: moments of like connection with our friends.
Speaker 2: We're just like we'll go.
Speaker 3: To lunch, get coffee, and then and then we're wondering, like, damn,
Speaker 3: we're not We're not like I don't really know her anymore,
Speaker 3: We're not close anymore. And it's like, no, you just
Speaker 3: haven't like really carved out any time to really see
Speaker 3: what's going on with them and check in with them
Speaker 3: and vice versa. Like you guys are having very surface
Speaker 3: surface experiences, but we're having like we're scheduling sleepovers for
Speaker 3: our for our daughters and our kids, but never really
Speaker 3: like prioritizing I guess sleepover as adults.
Speaker 2: Adults, sleepovers are necessary to cultivate adult friendships. Like that's
Speaker 2: how that's why the retreat works the way it does,
Speaker 2: because we're literally waking up and going to sleep with
Speaker 2: people every day, and like you have a day in
Speaker 2: and day out, day in and day out, there's like
Speaker 2: you get to cultivate a particular type of relationship because
Speaker 2: you get that all day like all day experience on
Speaker 2: a multiple days. We're doing the same things, we're going
Speaker 2: on the same adventures, and so it's fun to just
Speaker 2: like I realized this too, Like adults will do fun
Speaker 2: things and then we'll talk about them for the next day.
Speaker 2: We did like all these fun things, like oh my god,
Speaker 2: remember last tonight when we jumped up about naked and
Speaker 2: then you know, like we were all there, but just
Speaker 2: to reminisce on the things that were fun, even like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's what kids do too, exactly, and that's what we like.
Speaker 2: That's the human experience that we like think that we
Speaker 2: grow out of, but we don't. A lot of my
Speaker 2: adult friendships have been cultivated because of sleepovers and because
Speaker 2: of extended stays, like even me and Aaron, She's come
Speaker 2: and stayed with us a bunch of times. He's gone
Speaker 2: on trips. I think trips can be trips can go
Speaker 2: either way, but you can you'll find out quickly if
Speaker 2: it's someone who needs to be your friend or not,
Speaker 2: because I've gone on fucking terrible trips with people that
Speaker 2: are no longer my friends because they didn't need to be.
Speaker 2: And that's good too, because then I get to figure
Speaker 2: it out quickly. But I think that trips and sleepovers
Speaker 2: really help cultivate adult friendships and it's necessary.
Speaker 3: You mentioned high school like feeling like high school. And
Speaker 3: I just finally got the invitation to my high school reunion.
Speaker 2: What is it? Twenty years?
Speaker 3: Twenty fucking year high school reunion?
Speaker 2: Bitch?
Speaker 3: Did you go to your tenure?
Speaker 2: I did? You did? Yeah? And was it? It was great?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: It was fucking stupid. Oh see, I love it.
Speaker 3: I love to see all the fucking guys that were
Speaker 3: so rude and dick dick holes just to be trash.
Speaker 3: It was like, I couldn't wait to go, and it
Speaker 3: really validated my feelings the first time. So I'm really
Speaker 3: looking forward to round two of my twenty year high
Speaker 3: school re union.
Speaker 2: I become my kids like Ruby and Michell's high school reunion, Come.
Speaker 3: On, come, And honestly, I'm very disappointed in this reunion
Speaker 3: because first of all, they were like, there's this a
Speaker 3: two part reunion. Part one, come to the football game
Speaker 3: and hang out at the football game, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: of the high school yes, I was like no. So
Speaker 3: then I was like I don't want to go to no,
Speaker 3: fucking I don't want to go on to a high school
Speaker 3: fucking football game and see y'all No, no, no. So
Speaker 3: then the next day is then we'll have a barbecue
Speaker 3: on campus.
Speaker 2: I was like, you.
Speaker 3: Guys are fucking cheap. You want to have a barbecue
Speaker 3: on campus. I'm like, I was like, can we really
Speaker 3: reminist bring back? Can we bring back the throwback?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 3: Can we bring back the kickback? And someone does someone
Speaker 3: have a home in Sherman Oaks that we can have
Speaker 3: a kickback?
Speaker 2: Somebody does? Can we do a throwback? Like?
Speaker 3: We need kegstands, we need, we need these things. We
Speaker 3: need to run it back like we used to party
Speaker 3: back in the day. Stop acting like fucking grown ups
Speaker 3: and run this shit back. It's twenty years. We haven't
Speaker 3: done this shit in twenty fucking years. I think that
Speaker 3: every twenty year in high school, ring and beyond needs
Speaker 3: to be like we need to throw it. We need
Speaker 3: to be like the ultimate kickback. So I was like,
Speaker 3: I literally thought. I was like, are you gonna do
Speaker 3: You're gonna be my house?
Speaker 2: No? Oh god no. I was like, too many people.
Speaker 2: There's so many people.
Speaker 3: I know, some people probably die.
Speaker 2: You be acting like you're so with the ships, and
Speaker 2: then you'd be like no, you be like, yeah, everybody
Speaker 2: in my house, why did I do this? I don't
Speaker 2: like any of these people I just, well, no, not
Speaker 2: with our friends.
Speaker 3: But I don't really ever have parties like that where
Speaker 3: I feel like that at my house. But that particularly
Speaker 3: thing might happen because a I don't know these people anymore,
Speaker 3: like they could be serial killers and now they know
Speaker 3: where I live and be I just like I don't
Speaker 3: know who's like an alcoholic and it's going to overstay
Speaker 3: their welcome and just be stupid or you know, just
Speaker 3: like I don't want to deal with any sort of
Speaker 3: dramas that might come up. I just but I do
Speaker 3: think that somebody needs to volunteer their home, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: someone has to have a house near our high school
Speaker 3: that we can make this happen, because a barbecue on
Speaker 3: campus sounds like some bullshit. But anyway, I'm going to
Speaker 3: go either way because I have to. I have to
Speaker 3: come I have to come through. I have to come
Speaker 3: through with all this beauty.
Speaker 2: Just part two, not part one. I said, you just
Speaker 2: gonna go to part two, not part one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, show all these white boys what they missed out
Speaker 3: on because they were too busy looking at Cali And.
Speaker 2: They're probably still looking at Callie and Jessica Booth.
Speaker 3: I know, but they I'm even at my last reunion,
Speaker 3: one of the white boys came by to me. He's like, Erica,
Speaker 3: I always had a thing for you, And I was
Speaker 3: like really, because you didn't say shit. I was like, here,
Speaker 3: I am the fucking only other black. There was like
Speaker 3: two black girls and my whole fucking grade, throughout my
Speaker 3: whole high school experience, and I'm thinking, like, Wow, nobody
Speaker 3: likes black girls.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: I just want the fucking white girls with the fucking
Speaker 3: franky bees on and the fucking parcels whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: those jack parcel shoes and the high socks and anyway
Speaker 3: I know a parcel. They are like these shoes with
Speaker 3: like there's like these like shoes that have a little
Speaker 3: platform on them that everyone was wearing at a certain time,
Speaker 3: and at least at my high school.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it was at your high school.
Speaker 2: But I am just.
Speaker 3: Looking forward to connecting with some people that I haven't
Speaker 3: seen in a while, and also shitting on these nicks.
Speaker 2: That's my goal.
Speaker 3: That was my goal round one. My goal round two
Speaker 3: is to them Yep, I'm still that bitch, and you
Speaker 3: guys look old and I do not, oh my god,
Speaker 3: speaking because they do I've seen some of them on
Speaker 3: Facebook and I'm like, yo, sunscreen, sunscreen, water speaking, no
Speaker 3: more cigarettes speaking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the aging thing. I have never been so
Speaker 2: thankful to be black, like because I was on that
Speaker 2: trip and it was predominantly white people. First of all,
Speaker 2: I realized a lot of like and I can't send
Speaker 2: this to my day friends, but whatever, a lot of
Speaker 2: those women, white women had black babies. I didn't see
Speaker 2: the dad anywhere. Me and Orlando were the only black couple.
Speaker 2: There's only my friend's family was only black family. The kids,
Speaker 2: lots of mixed children, but there was one. There's a
Speaker 2: couple of women and I was just like, how old
Speaker 2: are you? And they were like, first of all, I
Speaker 2: think a lot of them thought we were high school students.
Speaker 2: One person one high school speaking, but this was like
Speaker 2: the this I felt like I was in high school.
Speaker 2: There's bongs everywhere. I was like, who's they were like
Speaker 2: just sitting there not helping. I was like, whose fucking
Speaker 2: kids are these? Get the fuck up. One kid asked
Speaker 2: Orlando about Luna, Is that your sister? Ask Orlando if
Speaker 2: Luna was his sister, and I was I almost was
Speaker 2: like whoa. I almost was like who am I? Then
Speaker 2: who do you think I am? But then you know
Speaker 2: what I contained myself. I said, I'm going to shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up because you're his sister too. I was like,
Speaker 2: I think maybe that was his girlfriend and see that
Speaker 2: was his sister or whatever, but like, there's no way
Speaker 2: you can think I'm both their moms. And I didn't
Speaker 2: even I didn't even entertain that conversation, but I realized, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: the aging is totally different, Like it's totally different. A
Speaker 2: lot of those women were the same or close to
Speaker 2: the same age as me, or like older.
Speaker 5: But looked like old older, And I was like, whoa,
Speaker 5: And I think, like in certain role, it's the sun
Speaker 5: and I want to say the son.
Speaker 2: And this is not a kind statement, and I'm just
Speaker 2: going to just keep it on a hundred. Okay, a
Speaker 2: lot of those women have black baby daddies and they're
Speaker 2: single moms now. But sometimes I think and then they,
Speaker 2: like my friend was telling me, a lot of the
Speaker 2: black guys will like leave them, steal from them. I
Speaker 2: have an announcement for white women that date outside of
Speaker 2: their race. Okay, let them know.
Speaker 3: Okay, And this is already I already support this message.
Speaker 2: Don't even know what it is yet, I'm you just
Speaker 2: take it for me. I'm your black friend online. Okay,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm your black friend in real life. But I
Speaker 2: just need to I just need to be realistic with
Speaker 2: yourself when a black guy approaches and maybe you guys
Speaker 2: are in the dating phase and you really you know
Speaker 2: they're great, and everything feels like it's going well. As
Speaker 2: a white woman who dates black men, there are certain
Speaker 2: things you have to be aware of. Does he really
Speaker 2: like me? Or is he using me? Am I a
Speaker 2: place to stay? Does he have a home? Does he
Speaker 2: have a vehicle? Does he have a job?
Speaker 3: Am I putting my name down on anything?
Speaker 2: Okay? These are the credit because that's a big one.
Speaker 2: If you think you're in love and he has none
Speaker 2: of the above or two of the above, and he
Speaker 2: doesn't and he asks you to co sign, or you
Speaker 2: notice that he's spending more than three days when week
Speaker 2: at your house and then it turns into four, then
Speaker 2: terms into five, and then he's moved in and the
Speaker 2: words of Ken the man that is not your nigga
Speaker 2: for real, Like, I don't want to be the bitch,
Speaker 2: but I'm like, and then this is what happens. White
Speaker 2: women get with the black men, they're like, we're in love,
Speaker 2: they get babies, they put their name on things, and
Speaker 2: then those niggas leave them and take some shit with them,
Speaker 2: and then they're like black guys blah blah blah, I
Speaker 2: don't date black guys. Nah, bitch, you dated the worst
Speaker 2: black guy that there was, and you got got because
Speaker 2: you weren't. You didn't have a black friend to tell you, no,
Speaker 2: he doesn't like you, he's using you, and not to
Speaker 2: say that this is the this is the happens to
Speaker 2: all white women. No, there's definitely genuine love is love,
Speaker 2: and there are people fall in love. But a lot
Speaker 2: of times, unfortunately, black men see white women and they
Speaker 2: take advantage of you. Okay, they take advantage because they
Speaker 2: think you're really nice, and you probably are, but there's
Speaker 2: such thing as being too nice. So I think that
Speaker 2: there's a level of I noticed in this group of
Speaker 2: friends there's literally very little black women, but there's a
Speaker 2: bunch of white women with black kids. And I think
Speaker 2: that sometimes you think that they're choosing you over us,
Speaker 2: and this is just I think that there's a level
Speaker 2: of ignorance that you guys have that you have to
Speaker 2: be aware of when dating outside of your race. There's
Speaker 2: a stereo you do just like me as black women
Speaker 2: have to be. There's a level of ignorance that I
Speaker 2: think black women have when dating white men too. So
Speaker 2: there's like rules and regulations around Unfortunately, because we live
Speaker 2: in a society that has created these fucking these steps
Speaker 2: operations between us and distrust between us and fetishizing between us.
Speaker 3: Not all the time. I do believe obviously people love.
Speaker 3: Love is love, but I think that there's things that
Speaker 3: we both, we all parties, need to be aware of
Speaker 3: and as blastifically, I have seen this a lot. As
Speaker 3: your black friend, Toney, I love you, I do, I
Speaker 3: really do. This is a safe space for you too.
Speaker 3: It is tell me the truth. Yes, it's time for
Speaker 3: you to know. And if you feel triggered by this,
Speaker 3: then you need to maybe go write the pros and
Speaker 3: cons down, Go get your journal, write it out. Maybe
Speaker 3: maybe dm us let us know what's going on. Let
Speaker 3: us know what's going on. If you join Patreon, then
Speaker 3: we can really have a full conversation. Because my time
Speaker 3: does cost a little bit. It's cost ten dollars. My
Speaker 3: time costs ten dollars so I can deep dive with
Speaker 3: you on this in our Patreon chat. And I'm sure
Speaker 3: there's gonna be other women too that can give you perspective.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of women that there's a lot of
Speaker 3: white women, brown women, black women in Patreon that have
Speaker 3: experienced all the all of the above. And I just
Speaker 3: want to be clear, Black women, we are not and
Speaker 3: we are not what it's called excluded from the fuckery
Speaker 3: of our of our of our men as well. We
Speaker 3: also can be dumb bitches.
Speaker 2: Also, we can also be dumb. But I do think
Speaker 2: we also are dumb bitches, like historically. Let's be clear
Speaker 2: because there's a lot.
Speaker 3: Of black single baby mom my baby mamas. But yeah,
Speaker 3: baby mom is out here too.
Speaker 2: So I want to be clear, but I want to
Speaker 2: be clear.
Speaker 3: But we but we have a different sort of discernment.
Speaker 3: We are we are choosing, we are not actually choosing
Speaker 3: to be dumb bites.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that the most important message is you're
Speaker 2: not exempt, Stacy, Kelly, Katie, You're not exempt. This is
Speaker 2: just this doesn't mean that this is not going to
Speaker 2: happen to you. So don't get up, get your black
Speaker 2: jamal and think that you're high and mighty, and you've
Speaker 2: done the damn thing. And he and also another thing.
Speaker 2: Please don't tell your black friends, Oh I got a
Speaker 2: new guy. His name is Jamal. He's so fine and
Speaker 2: he is a big dick. Don't do that. That is sheep.
Speaker 2: It's going, it's taking its way back. This is how
Speaker 2: you get cut off from your friends. This is how
Speaker 2: you don't get help. This is how you don't get advice.
Speaker 3: When we are silent while we're listening to your tragic story, and.
Speaker 2: We're like, we're gonna let you see how that plays out.
Speaker 2: When you start saying shit like that, we're gonna let
Speaker 2: you see how it plays out without putting in our
Speaker 2: two cents. But for real, you guys, you have to
Speaker 2: date more more warely, because it's real. It's real right here.
Speaker 2: People are predators and of all different people, and the
Speaker 2: stereotypes do exist, and I just want you, guys, everyone
Speaker 2: to be aware of it.
Speaker 3: Like, you know, what I think is like a tip
Speaker 3: for white women who want to date black men. What
Speaker 3: the first step in this is you need black girlfriends first.
Speaker 3: You can't be a white woman that's dating black men
Speaker 3: and only have white friends. Like that's just it's not
Speaker 3: gonna work.
Speaker 2: I have to just to get black girlfriends. Actually, then
Speaker 2: you're more like that. You're more likely to be a
Speaker 2: target if you have no black friends, because Jamal is
Speaker 2: going to be like oh perfect, no one to Warner.
Speaker 2: He's gonna be like sh ballin because you don't have
Speaker 2: one Jamala or Erica to be like knock or no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no, Please don't do this because let me tell
Speaker 2: you what Jamal's thinking. He's thinking you're stupid, bith Okay,
Speaker 2: So that's my announcement about interracial dating for the day.
Speaker 2: I just think that, yeah, don't think that. Just be
Speaker 2: on your just be on your toes, keep your eyes
Speaker 2: peeled because a lot of times, stereotypically, I think you
Speaker 2: think that you're like, oh, yeah, I'm the winner and
Speaker 2: you're It doesn't necessarily work that way. You have to
Speaker 2: have discernment when it comes to interracial dating because sometimes
Speaker 2: there are stereotypes that make you targets. And because we're
Speaker 2: your friends and we love you, we want you to
Speaker 2: know about these things.
Speaker 3: Do we need an affirmation that supports this? Like, what
Speaker 3: is the affirmation?
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we've already done. Don't be a dumb bitch.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna have to do You're not exempt, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're not exempt. White friends need white friends that date
Speaker 2: black guys need black friends too. Honestly, if if you
Speaker 2: have a black boyfriend and you have no black friends
Speaker 2: and he doesn't think anything's wrong with that, that's a
Speaker 2: red flag. I think it's a red flag. I think,
Speaker 2: why do you not have any black friends and you'll
Speaker 2: have one black boyfriend. There's just certain things. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I think what's the affirmation. White women who date black
Speaker 2: men need friends, White women who date black men need
Speaker 2: black friends. Very simple, simple.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see that written out on Instagram
Speaker 3: and see if anyone shares it.
Speaker 2: I've got to see the shares hate it.
Speaker 3: You don't have to start with the baseline is get
Speaker 3: a black girlfriend, you know, and you know what, maybe
Speaker 3: that goes the other way too. Black women that want
Speaker 3: to date white men get some white friends.
Speaker 2: But do you think, but do you think white friends
Speaker 2: are gonna be like, hey, babe, Dan is using you
Speaker 2: to flaunt you around as white friends, like he's he's
Speaker 2: fetishizing you. I think you do need white friends. I
Speaker 2: don't know if white friends are going to warn you
Speaker 2: the same way, but I think you need There's questions
Speaker 2: that you asked when I dated white guys five times
Speaker 2: I went on dates. There's questions that I asked, have
Speaker 2: you ever dated a black girl before? What would your
Speaker 2: family think if you brought me home? These are like
Speaker 2: two very important questions. I never even got that got
Speaker 2: that far. No, I I've never ever brought a white
Speaker 2: man home in my whole life. Wow. Never I've made
Speaker 2: in college, like in my early twenties.
Speaker 3: But even like, I don't be cause I think I've
Speaker 3: only ever been on like two dates with the white
Speaker 3: like what the same white man ever, I've never it's
Speaker 3: never gone past that. And even like the white like
Speaker 3: model homeless man that I had sex with, like very
Speaker 3: early on in our podcast.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I forgot. Oh my god, was this name
Speaker 2: like Peacock or something online or like Pete. I don't know.
Speaker 3: He was like he was targeting black women because remember
Speaker 3: he was in my DMS too, Yeah, he was targeting
Speaker 3: he was on America's Next Top Model or some shit.
Speaker 3: And then he picks me up in like this hoop
Speaker 3: de I've never seen a hoopdie this hoop deing. I've
Speaker 3: never been in a hoopdie that hoopedy to this hard
Speaker 3: and he didn't even live here, he lived in.
Speaker 2: Like where the fuck was he living? Who knows? He
Speaker 2: was homeless?
Speaker 3: Anyway, we didn't even go on a date. We just
Speaker 3: got drunk and had sex. But we never got past that.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I don't I don't even know.
Speaker 2: I don't even know. I can't even give real advice.
Speaker 3: I think that you maybe be more well versed in
Speaker 3: this space for this conversation.
Speaker 2: But I've retired from my pink meat days, but I've
Speaker 2: never like brought him home to my family.
Speaker 3: My dad, Oh my god, I could only see your
Speaker 3: dad just clowning the fuck out of.
Speaker 2: You back in the day, Like in like elementary junior high,
Speaker 2: I had a white boyfriend and he clowned me. But
Speaker 2: the most recent time he dropped actually me and this
Speaker 2: white boy off, Remember the one I was just so
Speaker 2: head over heels.
Speaker 3: For the locks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he ended up cutting his hair, but he
Speaker 2: dropped me and him off at the Hollywood Bowl for
Speaker 2: a concert. Like maybe this is more recently, I don't know,
Speaker 2: hollewhid No, it can't be that recent. It was like
Speaker 2: four years ago, Okay, yeah, four or five years ago.
Speaker 2: That seems so recent. It seems like yesterday. But he
Speaker 2: didn't talk. He was I don't know, he was just
Speaker 2: actually nuts. But I was just he didn't say anything
Speaker 2: about him being white. I was just embarrassed with my
Speaker 2: dad that day. He was just like talking shit to
Speaker 2: me and I was like, okay. But that was like
Speaker 2: the first time he's ever like as an adult. I've
Speaker 2: even brought someone around him that it wasn't black. But yeah, interesting,
Speaker 2: these are these are This wasn't supposed to be the topic. Guys.
Speaker 2: I just want to be clear. This is just this
Speaker 2: is the divine just telling us what to say. This
Speaker 2: is important, This is what needed to be said today.
Speaker 2: This is on my heart today, this was on my spirit.
Speaker 2: Just came through. I just channeled this. I just got
Speaker 2: a Dowtler's talk.
Speaker 3: I just got a download.
Speaker 2: I just channeled.
Speaker 3: I had to let these white bitches know the etiquette
Speaker 3: for dating a black man. I just had to come through.
Speaker 3: Thank you most high.
Speaker 2: I mean because they'll stress. I mean, you'll be stressed
Speaker 2: out and confused thinking you're in loudly stressed out and
Speaker 2: then hate black people. You will, and this is my problem.
Speaker 2: Then they're like I hate black guys and I don't
Speaker 2: date black guys. Like, no, bitch, because you dated all
Speaker 2: the wrong black guys and they aged you and now
Speaker 2: you look fifty and you're twenty seven, and that's your fault.
Speaker 3: Okay, what we got here, the aging into dating black men.
Speaker 2: No, No, but I do think if you, if you
Speaker 2: date the wrong black guy, or any guy for that matter,
Speaker 2: they will, they will stress you.
Speaker 3: And I'm pretty sure that my ex boyfriend gave me
Speaker 3: all the gray hairs on my head that I had.
Speaker 2: You and if you're white, you could have looked fifty
Speaker 2: right now. Luckily you have God. Thank you. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: like you, it would be like the presidency, you know,
Speaker 2: how you see the president before and after the term.
Speaker 2: If you pick honestly, ay, that will happen.
Speaker 3: Honestly, let's just say a prayer. Thank you God for
Speaker 3: making us black, because the amount of niggas that have
Speaker 3: stressed me the fuck out. I should look four hundred
Speaker 3: years old, honestly, but I don't because melanin, even if
Speaker 3: I don't have the most of it, it still came
Speaker 3: through for me. So thank you God, amen.
Speaker 2: I mean, and luckily, because sometimes it does it, you know,
Speaker 2: it just you have to be at this age. You
Speaker 2: have to be weary because if you let them stress
Speaker 2: you and age you, it could go really wrong.
Speaker 3: And then at this point in this at this specifically
Speaker 3: at this age, we can't allow men to stress us
Speaker 3: out because if you're vain like me, it's dire. It's
Speaker 3: just not an option. Like you really got to think
Speaker 3: about your looks. You got to think about your neck
Speaker 3: and your under eyes and those frown lines that are
Speaker 3: constantly being activated because you're crying at night letting these
Speaker 3: men stress you out. If you are above the age
Speaker 3: of thirty five and dating, you cannot allow the men
Speaker 3: to stress you out, especially if you're white.
Speaker 2: Especially and also, and this is going to not sound
Speaker 2: that kind too, but like, are you also like the
Speaker 2: same level of fine or is he using you?
Speaker 3: You know, we can't just we can't just say if
Speaker 3: you're if this is the first fine nigg you've ever
Speaker 3: been here, I'm not saying because because even Ken the
Speaker 3: Man said she was that Nigga's first bad bitch, Like
Speaker 3: I don't know if.
Speaker 2: That's the six that's my favorite line in all of
Speaker 2: her music, because I am that Nigga's first bad bitch.
Speaker 2: He's gonna edit this. I mean I would agree a
Speaker 2: so with she can. I think I'm his first bad
Speaker 2: I mean, like, come on, maybe make a little timid
Speaker 2: and scared. Maybe me and Erica are just delusionally conceded confident.
Speaker 2: I mean when I go If I go out and
Speaker 2: a guy who's like very not attractive talks to me
Speaker 2: or tries to I get offended, like, come on, come
Speaker 2: on you, why'd you come over here? I'm nice, I'm
Speaker 2: always right.
Speaker 3: But I think also, because yes we're beautiful women, we're
Speaker 3: going to hell. I think, yes, we're both beautiful women.
Speaker 3: But I think also our personalities make us bad bitches,
Speaker 3: and we know that.
Speaker 2: So that adds to the bad.
Speaker 3: Bitchness, which is why we're secure saying we're that niggas
Speaker 3: first bad bitch, because not only do we look good,
Speaker 3: but we're smart and we're fun and we do have
Speaker 3: shit going on, and we're funding just the looks. There's
Speaker 3: like there's like a foundation to this bad bitchery.
Speaker 2: It's a package.
Speaker 3: It's a foundation to bad bitchery. And it's not just
Speaker 3: it looks. It's confident, it's substance. You have to have
Speaker 3: some substance.
Speaker 2: There a substance, like you said, the con confidence. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the confidence, and you know.
Speaker 3: You're if you can call yourself a bad bitch confidently,
Speaker 3: because that's actually I mean, it's it is pretty like
Speaker 3: conceited and pathological to.
Speaker 2: Say that about yourself.
Speaker 3: But also like I don't think that it's I mean
Speaker 3: I'm a bad bitch. I'm just I'm just saying, yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 3: I mean I call myself bad bitch all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm just saying for most people that feel really uncomfortable
Speaker 3: saying that even though they are. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: bad bitches that have all the things that we have, right,
Speaker 3: but they lack the confidence. Like they have the success,
Speaker 3: they have the looks, they have the personality, but they
Speaker 3: would never feel comfortable even saying that about themselves.
Speaker 2: And I understand that. I think I've just gotten to
Speaker 2: a place where I'm confident about saying it because I
Speaker 2: always thought that it meant like I'm I thought I
Speaker 2: confuse it of being conceited, and I realized that that's
Speaker 2: the that's the trick that they tell women, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like men are more allowed to be
Speaker 2: more like both boastful and like confident about who they are.
Speaker 2: But women, Yeah, but women are supposed to be modest
Speaker 2: and humble, And you can be modest and humble, but
Speaker 2: you can still know what the fuck it is. And
Speaker 2: what it is is that I'm a bad bitch. And
Speaker 2: I think that is important and that goes far. And
Speaker 2: I think that we've been given this lie that we're
Speaker 2: supposed to be like I'm all right, I'm okay now, bitch,
Speaker 2: get the fuck out my way. I look good, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? And I and I think that
Speaker 2: I think that we should all possess that feeling about ourselves,
Speaker 2: even if I mean, even me, I'm not like the
Speaker 2: most I'm not the video model version of beautiful. There's
Speaker 2: every there's only a very small slither of what society
Speaker 2: tells you it's beautiful. We're all gonna veer outside of that.
Speaker 2: I'm not the most beautiful women in the world. However,
Speaker 2: I think that that's all that matters. It's about like
Speaker 2: the how you feel about yourself, how you present, and
Speaker 2: the confidence that makes it go far. And I think
Speaker 2: everyone should feel that way about themselves period.
Speaker 3: Maybe the affirmation is, oh, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 2: It can't be white part affirmation in case the first
Speaker 2: one doesn't go as well. It goes so well.
Speaker 3: Take a deep breath, Take a deep breath, and repeat
Speaker 3: after me.
Speaker 2: I am a bit, I am a bad bitch. I'm
Speaker 2: a bad bitch. I'm that bitch. And if you don't
Speaker 2: know it, move out my way like Luda.
Speaker 3: Well before we get out of here, bad bitch member two. Uh,
Speaker 3: we have a hory. It's a short one. It's not
Speaker 3: really a hooy.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like an.
Speaker 3: Advice question slash share in our discord. Okay, someone wrote
Speaker 3: in our discord. And if you haven't joined Patreon, once
Speaker 3: you join Patreon, you get access to our discord, which
Speaker 3: is if you don't know what discord is, because I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people don't really understand what discord is.
Speaker 3: It's like an online chat community. So once you join Patreon,
Speaker 3: you get access to Discord, which you have to download
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Speaker 3: and there's all these conversations happening, so many conversations, different channels,
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Speaker 3: There's people sharing their whore stories, there's people sharing their titties,
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Speaker 3: just for venting.
Speaker 2: If you just need to.
Speaker 3: Get some shit off your chest that like you can't
Speaker 3: text or say to anybody, or maybe you feel even
Speaker 3: embarrassed that you need to say, that's the.
Speaker 2: Place to do it. Yeah, it's just it's a place.
Speaker 3: Where you can be free with your fingers. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I just got this today from somebody in our hoary
Speaker 3: section and it said, hey, y'all, I started having sex
Speaker 3: with this man and I plan on doing it again
Speaker 3: as often as possible. But he's bigger than what I'm
Speaker 3: used to. This happened on Saturday. My neck still ain't
Speaker 3: right today, lots of deep throating. Well, my neck get
Speaker 3: used to this question, Mark, I.
Speaker 2: Might to say, No, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 2: think my neck has it. But why is it because
Speaker 2: you're doing this? Is he pushing your head a lot?
Speaker 3: Or like what you got to relax, relax your neck,
Speaker 3: relax your shoulders.
Speaker 2: You gotta get to be in a comfortable position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make sure you're make sure that you're checking in
Speaker 3: with your comfort while you're I think as women like
Speaker 3: we make ourselves very will like sit in a very
Speaker 3: we'll put our bodies in such uncomfortable positions during sex
Speaker 3: to please the person, to please the other person because
Speaker 3: like they're close, bit, nigga, you better we gotta start
Speaker 3: over then because I'm uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: That doesn't make for good sex.
Speaker 3: No, because they because now your neck hurts.
Speaker 2: If one person is uncomfortable, it's just not it's not
Speaker 2: the move.
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Speaker 3: a niggas dick is just big, and it's just big,
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Speaker 3: why you have hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, used a hand. Yeah, thank you for the question.
Speaker 2: I was a good one.
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Speaker 2: Oh what what was he? Osborne died? I mean, I know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I it's horrible. I feel sorry.
Speaker 3: I just got an alert on my phone right now.
Speaker 2: God, you know what's so crazy? Rest in peace, Ozzy Osbourne?
Speaker 2: Because I watched that show growing up, but recently.
Speaker 3: Literally just had his last he just had his last
Speaker 3: Black Sabbath concert.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 3: This was literally like a week and a half ago.
Speaker 3: Because I saw a bunch of like like like rock
Speaker 3: artists currently right now basically do the concert for him.
Speaker 3: And he was like wheelchaired out there was he a
Speaker 3: wheelchair for real?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Like he's not he the drugs he was going ever
Speaker 3: on the reality show, he was barely like barming words.
Speaker 2: That's why I was surprised he was still alive. I
Speaker 2: reached I recently literally said, wow, he's still alive. Seventy six.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, he's like he's pretty. I mean, it's old young.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's the average rate of death these days.
Speaker 2: I mean with all the food and the fucking heavy metals,
Speaker 2: it's probably fucking sixty. But also I think that it
Speaker 2: was like preserving him.
Speaker 3: He was like, no, no, no, for sure, the drugs preserve
Speaker 3: preserve people. Like when I look at what's his name,
Speaker 3: Mick Jagger, he has like his face is old as fuck,
Speaker 3: but his body is like a twenty two year old
Speaker 3: really yeah, girl, go look it up.
Speaker 2: I'm like, how fuck you got?
Speaker 3: How is your body looked twenty five and your face
Speaker 3: looks one hundred and two.
Speaker 2: He's probably working out and doing drugs.
Speaker 3: It's almost like you can't stop doing the drugs because
Speaker 3: if you do, you might you might actually really die anyway.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Ozzy Osboorren, Rest in peace. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: rest in peace, Malcolm Jamal Warner.
Speaker 3: I know, yeah, that was really and and it breaks
Speaker 3: my ant because it happened in our town of Costa Rica,
Speaker 3: where we bring the ladies for the retreats. When I
Speaker 3: heard when when they said Costa Rica, I was like, God,
Speaker 3: please not please, not.
Speaker 2: Important, so please I had I had a feeling because
Speaker 2: that's where the black people go, I know.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Troy told me it wasn't Cochalis, it was
Speaker 3: pli A Chaquitha.
Speaker 2: Really.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what's what it's what's true or not,
Speaker 3: but both those places the tide can get strong.
Speaker 2: Someone told me was pl Okay we go. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of rumors going. We're gonna, we're gonna have We're
Speaker 2: gonna when we get there, we'll be there in two days.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be on the ground. We'll figure this out.
Speaker 3: We'll tell you we're gonna leave an offering in the
Speaker 3: ocean for him because he's God. He was like, he's excellen.
Speaker 3: It's a black legend icon like people grew up with him. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just really sad. So anyway, I hug the people
Speaker 3: you love, Tell the people you love that you love
Speaker 3: them even when you're mad at them. And yeah, just
Speaker 3: take take advantage of just appreciate every morning that God
Speaker 3: wakes you up because it's just literally not guaranteed. Like
Speaker 3: you just don't know. You think you're on a family
Speaker 3: vacation and then you like the first beach you go to,
Speaker 3: like I can only imagine, like when you're in that scenario,
Speaker 3: you're like, this is.
Speaker 2: How I'm gonna go. This is it.
Speaker 3: That was his first day, the first day there, like
Speaker 3: this is how, this is it, this is God, this
Speaker 3: is this is how I'm going.
Speaker 2: Fuck, you just don't know, So appreciate, appreciate the present absolutely,
Speaker 2: and and I love you and we'll see you next week. Bye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm Lina, been so good, can't you tell? I
Speaker 4: went through a drought. That's until I found out where
Speaker 4: may my have been known? Art that used to be
Speaker 4: broken tail now got the blue dance And like Beyonceasell.
Speaker 2: Throat shot with pop and it's cowering our voices.
Speaker 4: Patriarchy kept it in the box to exploited women put
Speaker 4: the p and power.
Speaker 2: So what's pointless. They want me to be good, So
Speaker 2: I made that sad mom. Not a bad mom, but
Speaker 2: a bad mom.
Speaker 4: It's in on for cannabis in her bath. Bon walked
Speaker 4: in Boston's cap and I blew his cat boss hot Dog.
Speaker 2: Now I'm immune to the.
Speaker 4: Cat called Herbie in the waisted straight to it like
Speaker 4: a dollar sign.
Speaker 2: Mother, rent the lover, when to it.
Speaker 4: It's like a water simmer where you rent the winter
Speaker 4: essential will when the summertime.
Speaker 2: I do it all. Ain't know one that needs to
Speaker 2: run it by