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Speaker 2: football game last night?
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Speaker 2: like you might poop your pants. But they want to
Speaker 2: say it real fast. But I just think I'm great
Speaker 2: at it. Uh, what a game last night. We'll get
Speaker 2: right to it. So demand's's here, by the way. I
Speaker 2: you know, I haven't introduced this show in a very
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Speaker 3: My name is Nick.
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Speaker 2: Demanday is co hosting from Los Angeles. He's my son.
Speaker 2: He used to be here with me. He now works
Speaker 2: in LA for Fox Sports and does this with us
Speaker 2: Tuesdays and Thursdays. And the first two hundred episodes he
Speaker 2: was paid in experience. The next two hundred episodes, he
Speaker 2: will be paid in experience. All right, here's what missed
Speaker 2: the cut. Missed the cut for today's show, the Panthers
Speaker 2: selling tickets for forty five cents. John Morant set to
Speaker 2: make his season debut. Luckily, the Grizzlies had his back.
Speaker 2: They went six and nineteen without him. So weird because
Speaker 2: if you remember the last couple of years, the Grizzlies
Speaker 2: actually had an identical winning percentage with or without Josh,
Speaker 2: So they kind of seemed like a team that maybe
Speaker 2: could survive his apps. Spoiler alert, they couldn't and Jillette
Speaker 2: Stadium Booze Taylor Swift. How'd that work for them? I
Speaker 2: hope they enjoyed the Jared Mayo Drake May era as
Speaker 2: it is upon them. Okay, if they're lucky enough to
Speaker 2: get Drake may But where we've got to start is
Speaker 2: with Kansas City's own Drew Locke from least Summit Missouri. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't really get to claim Drew Locke because I
Speaker 2: have been hard on him in his career. He was really,
Speaker 2: really terrible for the Broncos for a lot of years.
Speaker 2: But if you didn't and we're not gonna play, and
Speaker 2: we'll get to the game in just a moment, if
Speaker 2: you didn't see the end of last night's Monday night
Speaker 2: football game, the postgame interview Drew Locke does two and
Speaker 2: a half minutes with Lisassaulters. That is downright inspirational. And
Speaker 2: that means the only two noteworthy on field postgame interviews
Speaker 2: that I can remember the last two years have both
Speaker 2: come from Seahawks quarterbacks. There's the Geno one from Game one,
Speaker 2: I think it was Game one, whenever it was last year.
Speaker 2: It was a night game when he said they wrote
Speaker 2: me off, but I ain't right back. Just an iconic
Speaker 2: bar from Geno Smith. And then Drew Locke with some
Speaker 2: really touching honesty. First he gave all the credit to
Speaker 2: his teammates, genuinely. Then he said he was like, it's
Speaker 2: been a long time since I've had a moment like this.
Speaker 2: He's like, you have human emotions, wondering can you still
Speaker 2: do it? And then he had a really cool, almost
Speaker 2: accidental line where he's like, and then I got out
Speaker 2: there and I'm like, yeah, I'm still the man. And
Speaker 2: that's the thing that I think, you know, maybe we
Speaker 2: all myself included, and I promise will get to the
Speaker 2: actual game in a moment, forget about these backup quarterbacks
Speaker 2: or guys who once were starters who can't hack it
Speaker 2: and or you know, get relegated to the bench, or
Speaker 2: guys who are just bad pros. And Drew Lock up
Speaker 2: to this point in his career, that's what he's been.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is a turning moment, fork in the road
Speaker 2: for him. Is at every other level, these guys, except
Speaker 2: for Tim Boyle, at every other level, these guys dominated.
Speaker 2: In high school, they were probably the most popular, certainly
Speaker 2: you know, best athlete, just absolute alpha icon. In college,
Speaker 2: they were one of the very best, if not the best.
Speaker 2: They've known nothing but success and dominating. And I don't
Speaker 2: necessarily want to say things coming easy for him, but
Speaker 2: for a lot of them, things come easy for him,
Speaker 2: and then they deal with nothing but failure or disappointment
Speaker 2: or people point that they had always been the reason
Speaker 2: their teams were good, and then at the quarterback position,
Speaker 2: when these guys don't make it, they become the reason
Speaker 2: everyone thinks the team can't win.
Speaker 3: It's like, well, you can't win with that guy, and.
Speaker 2: That's okay, all right, Well that's except I mean, Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: please lead to the division. Came off a playoff win.
Speaker 2: That's let's not let's not go there. Uh, listen to
Speaker 2: the guy's hurt. I mean Andy had a concussion to you,
Speaker 2: I mean the serious brain injuries you're making light of.
Speaker 3: Guys. Come on, let's try to have some professionalism here.
Speaker 3: I'm just messing with you. De Monta he.
Speaker 2: No, yeah, he is in concussion protocol, but I'm just
Speaker 2: trying to make you feel uncomfortable. But no, guys who
Speaker 2: they don't have any experience dealing with. Most of these
Speaker 2: guys have lost at various points. Trevor rarely did, but
Speaker 2: most of them lost at various points. But they have
Speaker 2: no experience of wait, I'm at fault here. People are
Speaker 2: blaming me, and then that's all they experience in the pros.
Speaker 2: And that moment for Drew Locke yesterday was phenomenal, was
Speaker 2: not so phenomenal for Philadelphia and Demonse. That's where we
Speaker 2: will really get into the show.
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Philly just lost their third straight. Drew Locke
Speaker 4: obviously led the Seahawks to a game winning drive. Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: So Jalen Hurts is hurt. Obviously, nobody else or no,
Speaker 4: not not hurt. He was sick. Say anybody else in
Speaker 4: the team was sick? Are the Are the Eagles on
Speaker 4: fraud to watch?
Speaker 3: Yeah? When it comes super Bowl winner? Yeah, definitely right.
Speaker 2: And so there's there's two buckets of concern for Philly.
Speaker 2: The first one is not gonna get fixed, and that's
Speaker 2: their defense. And this was This is a drum I
Speaker 2: have been beating for two years, but this year I
Speaker 2: have been hammering it. Can you hammer a drum? Last
Speaker 2: year I thought the defense was a touch overrated. Statistically,
Speaker 2: it was great, most sacks by any team in the
Speaker 2: NFL since the Bears of the eighties. But when you
Speaker 2: dug into it, last year they had a their very
Speaker 2: soft schedule of opposing quarterbacks, and when they played good quarterbacks,
Speaker 2: those guys cooked and it really felt like if you
Speaker 2: could block their front four, you could do damage on them.
Speaker 2: And that then of course culminated in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: where the Chiefs gained literally every single yard they could
Speaker 2: possibly have gained in their second half possessions except for
Speaker 2: the final yard, which they didn't want to gain. Instead
Speaker 2: they took a knee and they have that defense allowed
Speaker 2: thirty eight points. And now this year, no matter what
Speaker 2: category you look at, the Eagles defense stinks at it
Speaker 2: and it is if you want to do yards allowed,
Speaker 2: where are the Eagles in the NFL in yards allowed?
Speaker 2: The in total yards allowed, they are twentieth. In passing
Speaker 2: yards allowed, they are twenty eighth. In points allowed, they
Speaker 2: are twenty sixth. This is a defense on third downs,
Speaker 2: they're bad. On red zone they're bad. They used to
Speaker 2: be a good run defense. Now the last month they
Speaker 2: haven't been that. And in the offseason, Eagles fans blame
Speaker 2: Jonathan Gannon, their defensive coordinator that did such a terrible
Speaker 2: job he got a head coaching job out of it.
Speaker 2: They blame Jonathan Gannon and nobody shared. If you guys
Speaker 2: remember the somewhat awkward Hard Knocks or the knockoff version
Speaker 2: of Hard Knocks, whatever it is, the Amazon show, I
Speaker 2: shouldn't say not with the other of the alternative version
Speaker 2: of Hard knocks the Jonathan Gannon speech in training camp
Speaker 2: where he's like, who took the bus?
Speaker 3: We got buddy, who walked? Who drove here? And it
Speaker 3: was like a weird thing.
Speaker 2: Nobody shared that more on social media than Eagles fans.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, this guy cost us a zooper ball.
Speaker 2: And then three months into this season, Sean Decigh, you're
Speaker 2: out of here, Matt, Patricia, you're in. And now after
Speaker 2: last night, Patricia, you left Bradbury.
Speaker 3: On an island. What were you thinking? Guys, it's the personnel.
Speaker 2: I know you don't like to criticize the personnel because
Speaker 2: Howie Roseman understandably is a golden god in Philly. But
Speaker 2: they're back seven personnel stinks and Darius Slade just had
Speaker 2: arthroscopic surgery, your best corner, so he's out. If they
Speaker 2: don't get to the quarterback, anyone can cook them, including
Speaker 2: Drew Lot going ninety two yards and two minutes to
Speaker 2: win a football game. That's not changing, that's not getting fixed.
Speaker 2: And Philly fans tried to cope with it by like, oh,
Speaker 2: Kevin byertill change things.
Speaker 3: No, he won't. Kevin Byrn used to be awesome. Now
Speaker 3: he's fine. Oh look out Now.
Speaker 2: He got the maniac Shaq Leonard Darius Leonard from Indie Guys.
Speaker 2: Shack Leonard was at one of the greatest players in
Speaker 2: the league. Had a terrible knee injury and he was
Speaker 2: so bad and recovering from it, Indie outright released him.
Speaker 2: He was available to the whole league. He's not coming
Speaker 2: to save the day for your team. And so Philadelphia
Speaker 2: early in the year, they weren't playing great, but they
Speaker 2: were finding ways to win.
Speaker 3: And it's like, Okay, that's their brand.
Speaker 2: Now they're not playing great and they're finding ways to lose.
Speaker 2: And now you also look at the fact that these
Speaker 2: guys don't blow people out. Yeah, here's their games. Five
Speaker 2: point win over New England, six point win over Minnesota.
Speaker 2: And if you remember that game, Minnesota moved. I watched
Speaker 2: that game on an playing to take your sister to college.
Speaker 2: They moved the ball up and down the field and
Speaker 2: then couldn't stop fumbling, turning it over. They had one
Speaker 2: of those reached for the pylon fumble it turns into
Speaker 2: a touchback. They beat the Buccaneers by two scores, Washington
Speaker 2: by three in overtime, the Rams by nine lost to
Speaker 2: the Jets beat the Dolphins by fourteen.
Speaker 3: That's a great win.
Speaker 2: Commanders by seven, Dallas by five, the Chiefs by four
Speaker 2: after the Mvs drop the Bills in overtime, then blown
Speaker 2: out by the Niners, blown out by the Cowboys, and.
Speaker 3: Lost to Philly.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, lost to Seattle with their backup quarterback not
Speaker 2: being able to get a stop at the end. That
Speaker 2: defense is not getting fixed. You're just gonna have to
Speaker 2: hold on for dear life.
Speaker 3: Then you have.
Speaker 2: The question Philly fans don't want to ask right now,
Speaker 2: which is.
Speaker 3: How good is Jalen Hurts? We know he's good. How
Speaker 3: good is he? And Philly fans are going to get mad?
Speaker 3: But the question that is.
Speaker 2: Going to have to be at least considered is are
Speaker 2: we going to look at last year from Jalen as
Speaker 2: an outlier year? Are we going to look at last
Speaker 2: year as an outlier year?
Speaker 3: Or is this year?
Speaker 2: Oh, he's was banged up all year, some bad turnover luck.
Speaker 2: He'll get back to it because they paid him like
Speaker 2: last year was going to be the standard. And Jalen
Speaker 2: now tied with Josh Allen for league leading turnovers. I
Speaker 2: think Sam Howell as well, one of the I think
Speaker 2: those are the leaders has had a fumbling issue, is
Speaker 2: you know through another couple picks last night, and his
Speaker 2: numbers look very similar, not identical, but similar to the
Speaker 2: numbers of the year before his breakout season, and those
Speaker 2: weapons are still there. So I am not writing off
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. I think he's too mentally tough, physically tough.
Speaker 2: I saw him cook in a Super Bowl. But I
Speaker 2: am also saying for Philly, you have one problem that
Speaker 2: is unignorable and is right now I think unfixable. In
Speaker 2: your defense, you hope that's your only problem, because if
Speaker 2: your other problem is you have a good quarterback but
Speaker 2: have planned on having a great quarterback, that's a problem
Speaker 2: that's gonna have a long tail. And so now here's
Speaker 2: the other reality that it's easier to explain on the
Speaker 2: podcast than on the TV show. But when it comes
Speaker 2: to winning the division the right now, the the tiebreakers
Speaker 2: for within a division go as follows, divisional record followed
Speaker 2: by common opponent, followed by conference record, and then strength
Speaker 2: the victory. Okay, and it might go divisional record, then
Speaker 2: conference record than common opponent, doesn't matter. If Dallas and
Speaker 2: Philly both win out, Philly wins the division identical divisional record,
Speaker 2: identical conference record, identical common opponent. Then it will come
Speaker 2: down to strength the victory. And Dallas famously, doesn't you know,
Speaker 2: they have beat up on bad teams. They don't have
Speaker 2: a lot of great wins except for the win over Philly.
Speaker 2: But Philly also beat Dallas, so those cancel each other out.
Speaker 2: Philly would win the division. However, so if they both
Speaker 2: went out and may have the same record, Philly wins
Speaker 2: the division. Philly's the two or the and Dallas is
Speaker 2: the five. However, if Philly loses one of their next three,
Speaker 2: even if Dallas loses to Miami, everything I said about
Speaker 2: them having the same record, it flips and now Dallas
Speaker 2: wins all the tiebreakers. So follow me here, right, If
Speaker 2: they both went out, Philly wins the division. But if
Speaker 2: Philly loses any one of their next three and Dallas
Speaker 2: loses to Miami, then same record, Dallas wins the division
Speaker 2: because then all of a sudden, Philly has an additional
Speaker 2: either divisional loss against the Giants or conference loss against Arizona,
Speaker 2: and Dallas would have a non conference loss against Miami. Okay,
Speaker 2: so Dallas's ability to win that division opened up significantly.
Speaker 3: Yesterday.
Speaker 2: Obviously, for the Cowboys that's massive. We'll talk more about
Speaker 2: them in a moment. And for Philly, oh boy, if
Speaker 2: they fall to the five seed demons, you know who
Speaker 2: they're gonna have to deal with. Oh, this would be
Speaker 2: a first thing's first dream. They have to deal with
Speaker 2: the winner of the NFC South. You know who that's
Speaker 2: gonna be.
Speaker 3: Bake Show. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: If Baker Mayfield at home cooks up Bruce super Bowl pick, oh,
Speaker 2: oh my, that would be next to the Chiefs winning
Speaker 2: a super Bowl. Like my ideal out comes this postseason.
Speaker 2: Number one is the Chiefs win a super Bowl. Number two,
Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, is that my month's long fading
Speaker 2: of purty comes through in spectacular fashion. Number three would
Speaker 2: be Baker Mayfield cooking up Brus super Bowl pick.
Speaker 3: Oh. Nothing would be sweeter, Nothing would be sweeter.
Speaker 4: You want Rock Perdy to win the Super Bowl? Is
Speaker 4: that what you just said?
Speaker 3: No? I said, I know.
Speaker 2: I said, my month's long fading of party coming to
Speaker 2: fading means going against.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, And then they played.
Speaker 3: All right, well you have a follow up here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Philly, I don't think Philly is going to lose
Speaker 4: another game for the rest of the season.
Speaker 3: But uh, but they go Giants.
Speaker 2: Hold on real quick because they go Giants Cardinals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whenst I mean, the Cowboys definitely have a way
Speaker 4: better chance of losing a game before the Eagles doing
Speaker 4: these last three.
Speaker 2: I understand, as I just explained there, the Cowboys can
Speaker 2: lose to Miami and be fine if Philly.
Speaker 3: Loses another game.
Speaker 2: Rights, I mean right now, I mean they're ten point
Speaker 2: favorites against the Giants, and we'll see what they are
Speaker 2: against the Cardinals. I'll tell you right now, Kyler might
Speaker 2: be able to cook them up. Kyler might be able
Speaker 2: to make some hay on that secondary.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: I just Philly, when your past defense is this bad,
Speaker 2: there's no game you're a lock for. You just lost
Speaker 2: to Drew Lock. And I know it's been the top
Speaker 2: of the show giving Drew Lock as flowers.
Speaker 3: But that did happen? You lost to Drew Lock? All right,
Speaker 3: what's the follow up here?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so last night Jason Kelcey was called advancing the
Speaker 4: ball before the snap happen off a week of offensive
Speaker 4: through that, did do you think Kadarius Tony of Press
Speaker 4: God Great, do you think do you think Kadarius Tony
Speaker 4: might have put the pressure on the refs to be
Speaker 4: consistent with that call, and now they're might have gotten
Speaker 4: the two push.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I I tweeted that there's a long tail of the
Speaker 2: Canarias Tony offensive off sides. During Sunday and Saturday's games,
Speaker 2: there were six offensive off sides called six There were
Speaker 2: three called the entire twenty twenty one and twenty twenty
Speaker 2: two seasons combined. So I do not think that's coincidental.
Speaker 2: I do not think that is random. I think the referees,
Speaker 2: who are human did not like that. The face of
Speaker 2: the league and the best coach of the league and
Speaker 2: the discussion point of the league was about this penalty,
Speaker 2: and they were like, we're gonna e f and call it.
Speaker 2: We're gonna show you we care about this penalty. But
Speaker 2: then it extended to, all right, if we are going
Speaker 2: to pay this close of attention to detail the other thing,
Speaker 2: and by the way, I'm gonna make a prediction. The
Speaker 2: next thing to come is, if you're watching that Eagles
Speaker 2: game last night, you're like, man Lane Johnson sure seems
Speaker 2: to get out of his stance and start his past
Speaker 2: block set a beat early every time, of course he does,
Speaker 2: and he has for his whole career. He's timed it perfectly.
Speaker 2: It's technically against the rules. The refs haven't called it forever.
Speaker 2: They might start. But the other thing Jason Kelsey does,
Speaker 2: which is one of the reasons he's one of the best,
Speaker 2: if not the best center of all time, is on
Speaker 2: short yardage plays, he turns a fourth and one or
Speaker 2: a third and one into third or fourth and half
Speaker 2: a yard. He moves the ball forward a full half yard,
Speaker 2: which in a tush push scenario is incredibly valuable. And
Speaker 2: the referees dingdom on it last night, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it's coincidental. I also don't think, as I said
Speaker 2: last week and people thought I was a Chiefs fan coping,
Speaker 2: any of this is actually good.
Speaker 3: For football or football fans.
Speaker 2: You can argue, at least with Jason Kelsey's penalty, his
Speaker 2: team's gaining an actual advantage. But I think the referees
Speaker 2: have proven to us they are not equipped right now,
Speaker 2: at all times to even do the most basic parts
Speaker 2: of their job, and now they're adding to it in
Speaker 2: a way that I don't think is helpful to anybody.
Speaker 2: But I think they're trying to prove a point, and
Speaker 2: I don't think it's coincidental.
Speaker 4: All right, Next, so your Chiefs finally got back in
Speaker 4: the win column and they are now plus three hundred
Speaker 4: to win the AFC behind Baltimore. They beat the Patriots
Speaker 4: by ten points. The Patriots by ten points. Yep, is
Speaker 4: now the best time to double down on the Chiefs
Speaker 4: winning the AFC.
Speaker 2: I mean it was probably would have been before this
Speaker 2: past week, maybe, but the odds are around the same.
Speaker 2: Here's the deal, as demands, sarcastically says, beat the Patriots
Speaker 2: by ten points, as I deal with the Wilds and
Speaker 2: Brew spending the entire show talking about what's wrong with
Speaker 2: the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: All right, take the Niners out. Take the Niners out.
Speaker 2: Who's the team in the NFL that you can confidently
Speaker 2: say has either less problems or is better than cant City.
Speaker 2: Tell me, are you gonna say Baltimore or A You're
Speaker 2: gonna say nobody? Is it Baltimore? You know what I'll
Speaker 2: give you Baltimore. Okay, I'll give you Baltimore. Take the
Speaker 2: Take the Niners in Baltimore out. Is there any team
Speaker 2: in the league that you can even make fine? An
Speaker 2: argument is better than Kansas City?
Speaker 3: Is there is there? Honest question?
Speaker 4: Uh? No, h I rank the one Okay, the one
Speaker 4: argument would probably have to be Dallas right now? Huh.
Speaker 2: You want to make the argument for Dallas today, We're
Speaker 2: gonna talk about what Dallas did.
Speaker 3: That you could.
Speaker 2: So here's my question, because I think it would be
Speaker 2: I think it would be. I'm glad you said Dallas.
Speaker 2: I think right now, a fair power rankings might be
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Baltimore, Kansas City, and Dallas one through four. Right,
Speaker 2: San Francisco, Baltimore, Kansas City, Dallas. I think that some
Speaker 2: people would have those power.
Speaker 3: Rankings, and I would say that's fine.
Speaker 2: So if at worst the Chiefs are the third best
Speaker 2: team in football, do you think they are discussed as such?
Speaker 2: Do you think the Kansas City Chiefs, outside of my
Speaker 2: commentary are discussed like one of the very best teams
Speaker 2: or a team in wild disarray? Do you think they
Speaker 2: are discussed like a true bonafide A level championship contender
Speaker 2: or even after going to Gillette and you said it sarcastically,
Speaker 2: they repeat the Patriots by ten points, took mercy on
Speaker 2: the Patriots took knees when they couldn't even run out
Speaker 2: the clock to not score thirty five on them, a
Speaker 2: team that everyone was talking about had the best defense
Speaker 2: in football the last month moved the ball at will?
Speaker 2: Was that the discussion was it that Rashi Rice has
Speaker 2: come on to where he's going to be one thousand
Speaker 2: yard ten touchdowns as a rookie, or was it that
Speaker 2: they have one player on the team that keeps dropping
Speaker 2: the ball? Fifty three man roster. Do you think there
Speaker 2: has been more discussion over the last few weeks about
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, the reigning.
Speaker 3: League MVP and Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: MVP, playing apex level Mahomes the last couple of weeks
Speaker 2: when he had in the first two months of or
Speaker 2: about the twenty eighth most important player on the roster,
Speaker 2: Karius Tony. I think it's pretty obvious what it's been.
Speaker 2: I think that the commentary surrounding the Chiefs, they are
Speaker 2: discussed at when we talk about the Chiefs offense. If
Speaker 2: I tell you right now they are top ten in
Speaker 2: yards and points, I think.
Speaker 3: That shocks the audience.
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, they're top ten and that's the thing
Speaker 2: we talk about being broken. If I tell you right
Speaker 2: now that the Chiefs have more production from their number
Speaker 2: one receiver this year, Rashi Rice, than they did last year.
Speaker 2: You'd say that can't be. They lost Juju, and Juju
Speaker 2: had three touchdowns last year three. You didn't have a
Speaker 2: thousand yards and so my frustration is a simple one.
Speaker 2: They never get blown out. They have no coin flip
Speaker 2: wins and four coin flip losses, and we know those
Speaker 2: things even out, and all of the discussion is about
Speaker 2: what's wrong with them?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Did I do some of that to them by predicting
Speaker 2: to go twenty and Oh?
Speaker 3: Maybe, but that ship has long sailed. They lost first game.
Speaker 4: Of the year. I think that would expect seat Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: You know, you got the greatest quarterback in the league
Speaker 4: right now on your team. Probably just expect them to
Speaker 4: blow teams out or do a little bit better, probably
Speaker 4: hold them to a higher standard. Just confused, Why what's
Speaker 4: taking so?
Speaker 2: I guess so I so and again, But you said
Speaker 2: not really taking off of You ain't the third best
Speaker 2: team in the league. So if the standard is that,
Speaker 2: if they are not the far and away best team
Speaker 2: in football, something's wrong with them, then I'm here to
Speaker 2: tell you no team in league history would live up
Speaker 2: to that standard every single year, and then we get
Speaker 2: to Mahomes sover. So I'm glad you said that, because
Speaker 2: here's the other part of it. If I were to
Speaker 2: tell you right now, Patrick Mahomes this season leads the
Speaker 2: NFL in total yards, is tied for fourth in the
Speaker 2: NFL and touchdowns. It has a career high in completion percentage,
Speaker 2: is fourth in the NFL. And QBR does that line
Speaker 2: up with the commentary? No, and he has more picks
Speaker 2: this year than in years past.
Speaker 4: But yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I was about to say
Speaker 4: he's got a touchdown to pick ratio a little bit
Speaker 4: higher on the base, I guess.
Speaker 2: So, I guess I would argue that you can't double
Speaker 2: dip the criticism. So are those picks because the wide
Speaker 2: receivers stink and that's the big problem for the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: Or is it that Mahomes isn't playing up to his standard?
Speaker 2: It logically, it doesn't quite follow that.
Speaker 3: It's both. It's not the wide.
Speaker 2: Receivers are doing Mahomes dirty and Mahomes isn't playing well enough.
Speaker 2: If you want to say, actually, Mahomes needs to play better.
Speaker 3: The wide receivers are fine.
Speaker 2: We can have that discussion, and if you want to
Speaker 2: say the wide receivers are doing him dirty, then we
Speaker 2: can have that discussion. But we are going to and
Speaker 2: Vegas agrees. By the way, the Niners are massive Super
Speaker 2: Bowl favorites, and then Baltimore and Kansas City are two
Speaker 2: three with it being very close, we're going to get
Speaker 2: to a place where by the end of the regular season,
Speaker 2: when all the dust is settled, by the end of
Speaker 2: the wildcard round of the playoffs, the Chiefs are the
Speaker 2: favorites to win the AFC. And aside from on my
Speaker 2: show when I'm talking, the vast majority of conversations surrounding
Speaker 2: them all year has been what's wrong with them?
Speaker 3: And I think that is misplaced. That's all. We'll see
Speaker 3: if I'm proven wrong.
Speaker 2: Maybe, Like, let me ask this question, do you think
Speaker 2: there has been more positive commentary this season overall on
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs or on the Buffalo Bills, on
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes or on Josh Allen. Because one team is
Speaker 2: in ninth place and needs to win out to make
Speaker 2: the playoffs and the other on Christmas Day will clinch
Speaker 2: their division for the eighth straight year, it just doesn't
Speaker 2: quite sync up to me.
Speaker 4: All right, now, okay, so, uh, your Cowboys are blown
Speaker 4: out by the Bills the other day. The Bills are
Speaker 4: officially not out of the playoffs. They are still in it,
Speaker 4: but like you said, they have to fight for their
Speaker 4: lives on Christmas Day? Yea, how could this have gone
Speaker 4: any worse for you? Do you? How do you feel
Speaker 4: about that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it was especially now that Philly lost, because
Speaker 2: it's a blown opportunity for Dallas. They could have been
Speaker 2: solo first place in their division. They could have kept
Speaker 2: the pressure on San Francisco, where San Francisco would.
Speaker 3: Have to keep winning in order to be the one seed.
Speaker 2: Now, as far as the Bills, I mean I the
Speaker 2: Bills were called during this game the hottest team in
Speaker 2: the NFL. Before the game started, I should say, they
Speaker 2: were on a one game winning streak where they didn't
Speaker 2: even play well in the second half of that one game.
Speaker 3: The Bills just continue to be.
Speaker 2: A evaluated by a totally different standard than the rest
Speaker 2: of the league. Now, I don't think they're gonna make
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I also think if they were to make
Speaker 2: the playoffs, they are not this wildly dangerous team everyone
Speaker 2: else believes. But I've talked enough about the Bills. I
Speaker 2: am not shocked. I am shocked by the result of
Speaker 2: this game. I thought Dallas could put it on them.
Speaker 2: I was dead wrong on that, and I am shocked
Speaker 2: that Buffalo just decided.
Speaker 3: To run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.
Speaker 2: It worked great, and Dallas wasn't prepared for it. But
Speaker 2: I'm not shocked that the Bill's A game looks great.
Speaker 2: The Bill's A game has look great for four years.
Speaker 2: Their problem is their inability to string those A games together,
Speaker 2: and this year their problem now is in order just
Speaker 2: to make the postseason, they are going to have to
Speaker 2: string together six weeks of wins just to be in
Speaker 2: the single elimination tournament. So I think the Bills right
Speaker 2: now are wildly overvalued by my colleagues. But we'll see
Speaker 2: if I end.
Speaker 3: Up being right about it.
Speaker 2: It should be noted I've been the only person in
Speaker 2: the national media right about the Bills for four years now.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the year everyone else is right and
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But I've had this team pretty well pegged
Speaker 2: for four seasons in a row, and I know people
Speaker 2: want this team.
Speaker 3: They remind me so much.
Speaker 2: Some of the commentary about the Bills, except they don't have,
Speaker 2: you know, as many superstars as the commentary surrounding the
Speaker 2: nets when they had Katie Harden and Kyrie. People so
Speaker 2: badly want this team to be something it's never actually
Speaker 2: shown it can be for sustained periods of times.
Speaker 4: Are just a really fun team to watch, is what
Speaker 4: I think is what draws people. I think they're games.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're exciting.
Speaker 4: Games are really fun.
Speaker 2: I totally agree, they're very exciting. They're exciting, but they're
Speaker 2: not as exciting as the Dolphins. And the Dolphins don't
Speaker 2: get a quarter of the love Buffalo gets, even though
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are ten and four and Buffalo is eight
Speaker 2: and six. And I understand Buffalo whooped the Dolphins ass
Speaker 2: when they played two months ago, but the Dolphins have
Speaker 2: avoided that the Bills haven't. Is egregious losses. The Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bills this year have lost games to Zach Wilson, Mac Jones,
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson. They tried to lose a game to
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. And so this idea that they're gonna win
Speaker 2: five straight and surge into the playoffs, we'll see if
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I don't think I will be. Now for
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Obviously, if they don't end up winning the division,
Speaker 2: they do seem to be two totally different teams at
Speaker 2: home versus on the road, and that could be a
Speaker 2: big problem for them.
Speaker 4: All right, last one, yo, So Trevor Lawrence, so you're Jaguars.
Speaker 4: They went up against the Ravens and Trevor Lawrence couldn't
Speaker 4: bring out the dub the turnovers or a problem per
Speaker 4: usual overthrowing. I actually placed a bet on Lamar ja
Speaker 4: as scoring to or getting two hundred yards, and I
Speaker 4: just needed your guy, Trevor Lawrence to lead a drive
Speaker 4: to make him have to pass it, and he couldn't
Speaker 4: do it. He just couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: A lot of the blame by Lamar to have two
Speaker 2: hundred yards. I mean, he had plenty of possessions. Maybe
Speaker 2: Lamar should have just thrown for more yards.
Speaker 4: But go ahead, JAG's making a game either or. Yeah,
Speaker 4: A lot of the blame falls on Trevor Lawrence, per usual,
Speaker 4: who is terrible with his fourth quarter turnovers. Do you
Speaker 4: think that there's a chance that Trevor Lawrence is just
Speaker 4: Josh Allen with good hair?
Speaker 2: Okay, so listen, I actually think that's kind of unfair
Speaker 2: to both of them. I think it's unfair to Josh
Speaker 2: and that Trevor hasn't shown the A plus level sustained
Speaker 2: moments that Josh has had. And I think it's unfair
Speaker 2: to Trevor and that Trevor has not been a head
Speaker 2: scratching turnover machine over the last couple of years. Now,
Speaker 2: he played a very poor game on Sunday night. The
Speaker 2: fumble was ludicrous. He's just running and drops the ball.
Speaker 2: And even worse than the fumble was the end of
Speaker 2: the first half. The end of the first half, when
Speaker 2: they don't get points, they win. It's fine, if you're
Speaker 2: not gonna spike the ball, you gotta throw it into
Speaker 2: the end zone. Now, what is true is Trevor was
Speaker 2: eight and three and the Jags, or the Jags were
Speaker 2: eight and three, and Trevor was rolling and they were
Speaker 2: scoring thirty plus on Cincinnati, and then he got the
Speaker 2: high ankle sprain, and since then he hasn't been quite
Speaker 2: as good. Now, that doesn't excuse the fumble or the
Speaker 2: mental mistake at the end of the first half.
Speaker 3: But I think that I think that the Jags have.
Speaker 2: To be careful now that Trevor's in concussion protocol, because
Speaker 2: if he misses this week and they play Baker, they
Speaker 2: could lose. In all of a sudden, they probably won't
Speaker 2: be in first place in the division with Indy and
Speaker 2: Houston tied with him.
Speaker 3: Luckily, for the.
Speaker 2: Jags, they have the Panthers and the Titans as their
Speaker 2: next two and so even if they don't win the division,
Speaker 2: they can get to ten and seven relatively easily. And
Speaker 2: that's again where people are all high.
Speaker 3: On the Bills. The Bills lost.
Speaker 2: Head to head to Jacksonville. That's a tiebreaker that could
Speaker 2: come into play. They lost had dead to Cincinnati, that's
Speaker 2: a tiebreaker that could come into play. I don't think
Speaker 2: Denver's gonna get to ten wins, but they lost had
Speaker 2: to head to Denver. That's a tiebreaker that could come
Speaker 2: into play. Like those tiebreakers, the Bill's path is going
Speaker 2: to be they've got to win that division. The Bills
Speaker 2: path is going to be that they need Miami to
Speaker 2: lose to either Dallas or Baltimore and then to Buffalo
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. That's the Bill's path,
Speaker 2: and I don't know that they're gonna get it. Now
Speaker 2: to the Jags, here's the fact of the matter. Trevor
Speaker 2: overall this year has been disappointing compared to what I
Speaker 2: thought he would be.
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be an in VP candidate. He has
Speaker 3: not been.
Speaker 2: I thought the Jags would win thirteen games. They have
Speaker 2: six losses already, and so that is. It was looking good.
Speaker 2: Trevor was starting to play his best ball. They were
Speaker 2: eight and three, He was starting to play better, and
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he gets hurt and they
Speaker 2: have some really bad losses. Lost to the Bengals, the
Speaker 2: loss to the Browns and Joe Flacco when Trevor throws
Speaker 2: three picks when I don't.
Speaker 3: Think he should play.
Speaker 2: And then a game against the Ravens where I didn't
Speaker 2: think the Ravens defense played great and the Jags missed
Speaker 2: field goal, miss field goal, give the ball away on
Speaker 2: a terrible fumble.
Speaker 3: Don't get points for the half.
Speaker 2: They should add twenty points at a halftime, and they
Speaker 2: had seven or they had zero, Actually, pardon me, did they.
Speaker 3: How many did they have at halftime?
Speaker 4: I think they might have.
Speaker 2: No, No, no, it was ten to nothing at half
Speaker 2: time because they hit the long touchdown to Agnew at
Speaker 2: the start of the third quarter. But they could I
Speaker 2: mean they missed two field goals, they fumble the ball
Speaker 2: in the red zone, they don't get points for the half.
Speaker 3: All that's terrible, and so Trevor needs to be better.
Speaker 3: There's no denying then, all right, Brock Party is the
Speaker 3: overwhelming favorite for League MVP. We discuss it next. What's right.
Speaker 2: Before we get to our game, demons, Let's do uh
Speaker 2: the MVP discussion right now? It's Brock Purty is a
Speaker 2: huge Vegas.
Speaker 4: Favorite, huge Vegas favorite, especially because we got Dak and
Speaker 4: Hurts falling off. Tarik's miss time, so he's falling off. Yep.
Speaker 4: Brock Party is a heavy MVP favorite and he's minus
Speaker 4: two hundred to win. Now. Question is no longer will
Speaker 4: he win the MVP, it's who can even stop him
Speaker 4: from winning the MVP? So what do you mean.
Speaker 2: His teammates or coaches talking is the only thing that
Speaker 2: can maybe stop him. Kyle Shannan was asked before this
Speaker 2: last game about Christian or Brock being MVP. He's like,
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about one or the other,
Speaker 2: and then he gave a fusive praise to Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 2: and tepid praise to Party. George Kittle was asked straight
Speaker 2: up yesterday who do you think the league MVP is,
Speaker 2: and he said, I'd give it to Christian and this
Speaker 2: is where and so listen, I think Party's probably gonna win.
Speaker 2: I would prefer the MVP not turn into the Heisman
Speaker 2: Trophy where the Heisman. It doesn't happen so much nowadays,
Speaker 2: but there was a time in the early two thousands
Speaker 2: when the Heisman Trophy was just all right, who's the
Speaker 2: best team in college football? Who's their quarterback? And Jason
Speaker 2: White and Chris Winky and Danny Werfel won Heisman trophies
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't have. I think Chris Winky won. Am
Speaker 2: I making that up?
Speaker 3: Uh? The yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean this is the did I make a no?
Speaker 2: He did win, so the Heisman Trophy. In fact, let
Speaker 2: me just go to it real quick. Heisman Trophy nineteen.
Speaker 4: He is the quarterback for the most dominant team in
Speaker 4: the NFL right now, and he's got perfect passer rating games.
Speaker 4: I don't care, Like if you could, there are quarterbacks
Speaker 4: that you could put in there that are going to
Speaker 4: do worse. I mean that's obvious, but it's like not
Speaker 4: anybody can do what Rock Party is doing, and you're
Speaker 4: just making it seem like you could throw any quarterback.
Speaker 3: What do you mean not? What do you mean not anybody?
Speaker 3: What do you mean not.
Speaker 4: About I mean Zach Wilson probably couldn't go in there
Speaker 4: and do it. He wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, so I wanted Oh no, no, no. Of course,
Speaker 2: if you're saying so, you're saying there's only like like
Speaker 2: twelve guys that could do what brock Perty.
Speaker 4: Gino Smith probably wouldn't be MVP on that team.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 4: I agree, No, but you you don't even think I'm
Speaker 4: saying that like they wouldn't. He wouldn't even be the
Speaker 4: m v P favorite right now, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with all that. Do you think
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins could be if you were healthy?
Speaker 3: I do? Do you think that? I mean, honestly, what
Speaker 3: do you healthy?
Speaker 4: On the on the on the night? Oh okay, they
Speaker 4: live fine. And and if and if Dak got the
Speaker 4: m v P and he was lee that dominant team,
Speaker 4: and I think he deserves the MVP.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen, I am. I'm not arguing.
Speaker 2: That I thought rock Perty actually made one of the
Speaker 2: best plays he's made.
Speaker 3: All season.
Speaker 2: In that Cardinals game, the throw to Debo, I think
Speaker 2: it was Debo was a Debo r. It was Debo
Speaker 2: in the front corner of the end zone, perfectly placed. Oh,
Speaker 2: it was an elite, high level throw. I'm not arguing
Speaker 2: that every quarterback in the league could play for the
Speaker 2: Niners and look great. I think fifteen could I do
Speaker 2: think that, And I think that ten would look significantly better.
Speaker 2: And you might say, Nick, how could they look better? Well,
Speaker 2: they add a three game losing streak directly related to
Speaker 2: his play, like that happened, and we do a weird
Speaker 2: thing with like recency bias, Like Jalen is totally eliminated
Speaker 2: from the MVP discussion. Why because of a three game
Speaker 2: losing streak, totally out of it. Dax eliminated from it
Speaker 2: because of one bad game. Dak was the favorite and
Speaker 2: now he's out because of one bad game. But Brock
Speaker 2: had three in a row, but it was months ago.
Speaker 2: I listen, if folks want to give the most Valuable
Speaker 2: Player award to a like, let me just I guess
Speaker 2: here's my question. Does anybody listening think Brock party. Let's
Speaker 2: just see. You don't have to check all of these boxes,
Speaker 2: But let's see if he checks any Does anybody think
Speaker 2: Brock Purty is the best player on his own team?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Does anybody think Brock Purty is the most valuable player
Speaker 2: on his own team? I would argue, no, Does anybody
Speaker 2: think Brock Party is the most talented quarterback.
Speaker 3: In the NFL? I would argue, No.
Speaker 2: Does anybody think Brock Purty is the most valuable quarterback
Speaker 2: in the NFL? I would argue, no, does anybody actually
Speaker 2: think Brock Party is the best quarterback in the NFL?
Speaker 2: I would argue, Now, does anybody actually think that if
Speaker 2: the Niners replaced Brock Party with literally any other quarterback
Speaker 2: that will get a single solitary even fifth place MVP vote,
Speaker 2: they would get worse? So that would mean Tua, Mahomes,
Speaker 2: dak Lamar Jalen, those guys that the Niners would get worse.
Speaker 2: I would argue, Now, does anybody not think that if
Speaker 2: you replace Rock Party with any of those quarterbacks then
Speaker 2: Niners would get better? Obviously, maybe not Tua, maybe not Toua,
Speaker 2: but everybody else. But I also haven't been promoting to
Speaker 2: his league MVP, but we're gonna make him league MVP. Okay,
Speaker 2: you guys have skipped the step. And this is what
Speaker 2: is so baffling to me. If the conversation surrounding Brock
Speaker 2: Purdy had simply gone to Nick, are you ready to
Speaker 2: admit he's clearly better than Jimmy Garoppolo, I would have
Speaker 2: no choice. Clearly he is, Nick. Are you ready to
Speaker 2: admit he makes more wow plays than you thought he
Speaker 2: was capable of. I would have no choice but to
Speaker 2: admit it. But instead we skipped every single step, and
Speaker 2: the conversation became, are you ready to admit he should
Speaker 2: win an award that over the last you know, half
Speaker 2: dozen years, has been won by Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and Tom Brady.
Speaker 3: That seems to me to be a bridge too far,
Speaker 3: But everyone else is cool with it. Everyone else, every other.
Speaker 2: Let me ask one other question for every other MVP candidate,
Speaker 2: if they went down right before a playoff game, would
Speaker 2: you write their team off? Of course, for the Niners,
Speaker 2: not only would you not write them off, but deep down,
Speaker 2: if a.
Speaker 3: Nin were asked, all right, we have to either lose.
Speaker 2: Brock or Christian for this playoff game. Pick one, we
Speaker 2: have to either lose Brock or Williams.
Speaker 4: No, that is not what we saw.
Speaker 3: No, that's but that's not what we saw. What we
Speaker 3: saw was.
Speaker 2: A game where Brock went down, then his backup got
Speaker 2: a concussion, who was their fourth stringer, and then they
Speaker 2: were out of quarterbacks. We have not seen the Niners
Speaker 2: play a game with I mean, we did see them
Speaker 2: play with Jimmy Garoppolo and Christian McCaffery, and in the
Speaker 2: games he started, they were undefeated, and Garoppolo at a
Speaker 2: one ten rating and looked like the best quarterback in football.
Speaker 2: But Brock's better than Jimmy Garoppolo. So listen, I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm I always say I'm sick of this argument, and
Speaker 2: then I do ten minutes on it. I the we
Speaker 2: are going to give the league MVP award to a
Speaker 2: player that even his own teammates as of yesterday don't
Speaker 2: think he should win.
Speaker 4: Okay, mate, so be it?
Speaker 3: You think, Oh you think you think Kittle's the only one.
Speaker 4: You think Kittle's the only one. Deebo went on a
Speaker 4: podcast saying that that he definitely should get it, or
Speaker 4: I don't know. That actually might not have been MVP thing,
Speaker 4: That might have just been a given respect type of
Speaker 4: thing now I think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, and I want to read you a quote.
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me find the exact quote. Gosh darn it,
Speaker 2: I have to find it or I'm going to lose
Speaker 2: my mind.
Speaker 4: Here.
Speaker 3: I want to read you a quote. Where is it?
Speaker 3: Because this is this is.
Speaker 4: Why you look to be fair. You've got to pull
Speaker 4: in here asking it's party, the most valuable player on
Speaker 4: his team. Thirty say yes, sixty eight percent say no.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but listen.
Speaker 2: To be fair with you, I want to read you
Speaker 2: some quotes from Trent Williams and Christian McCaffrey. Okay, quote
Speaker 2: from Trent Williams. He's a baller. I don't know why
Speaker 2: that's ever been in question. Every time you see the man,
Speaker 2: all he does is win. He's a great teammate, he's
Speaker 2: a great dude. Just hate to see him get slighted
Speaker 2: all the time because I feel like he's such a
Speaker 2: good talent, such a good quarterback. He's the main reason
Speaker 2: we are playing that. Well, that's from Trent Williams. Here's
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. He's such a talented quarterback. He doesn't get
Speaker 2: enough credit in my eyes at all. He's a great leader,
Speaker 2: super smart, can make any throw, and just a great
Speaker 2: guy to be around. It's been a lot of fun
Speaker 2: to be able to pick his brain and mesh with him.
Speaker 2: Trent Williams went on to say, sorry, yeah, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: and then Trumps went on to say, when asked about
Speaker 2: the criticism he gets, it surprises me. I ain't gonna lie.
Speaker 2: He does everything right. He's not a knucklehead. He's a model,
Speaker 2: a teammate. You can't get better than him. Just to
Speaker 2: see some of the people say that stuff about him,
Speaker 2: it sucks, but it's life.
Speaker 3: Jimmy's a really great dude.
Speaker 2: I oh, those were all quotes from last year about
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 2: And I thought I was making a case for Brock Purty,
Speaker 2: but I misgoogled it. November twenty third, Trent Williams Christian
Speaker 2: McCaffrey surprised Jimmy g doesn't get the respect he deserves. Ah, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's unfair. I really thought I was defending
Speaker 2: Brock Party there. Instead, it's the same yeah I did.
Speaker 2: It's the same exact guys giving the same exact platitudes
Speaker 2: about a player that, unlike Party. We now all acknowledge
Speaker 2: stinks and the same god Doog player that I had
Speaker 2: to argue with you same dopes about for four years.
Speaker 3: Oh he's been to a super Bowl. When he's held,
Speaker 3: they win. Look at the numbers and the same thing
Speaker 3: I watched in this.
Speaker 2: Game Sat Sunday that made brock Perty the MVP favorite,
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, be schemed so open that he felled down,
Speaker 2: got up and still went into the end zone untouched.
Speaker 2: You know that play right, Bertie season Christian catches it,
Speaker 2: falls down, stands up, no one's around, and just walks
Speaker 2: into the end zone.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, you said it yourself, though you already said
Speaker 4: it yourselves. This is different from the Jimmy Garoppolo situation
Speaker 4: being the parties.
Speaker 2: He's better, he's better, that does I listen. Everybody has
Speaker 2: different standards and different tastes.
Speaker 3: That's fine.
Speaker 2: My standard for League MVP is not be better than
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo. If that were the case, where's the aid
Speaker 2: and O'Connell's support. Let's play the game. I'm not talking
Speaker 2: MVP anymore. I'm done with it. I'm done with it.
Speaker 4: Stupid ahead. So we're playing a game today. It's called
Speaker 4: right ends we don't have any boards, so I'm pretty
Speaker 4: sure we're just gonna boards, all right. So first off,
Speaker 4: for starting with starting with Baker. Yeah, Baker went to
Speaker 4: Green Bay and became the first visiting quarterback to have
Speaker 4: a perfect perfect passer rating. The Bucks a leading in
Speaker 4: the NFC South, and their quarterback is so hot right
Speaker 4: now that Belichick. Belichick had to roll his sleeves up
Speaker 4: to his hoodie to prove Tampa should build around him.
Speaker 4: That's Baker must that is That's a good one.
Speaker 3: Just keep doing what he's doing. Keep doing what he's doing.
Speaker 2: I mean, build around him is probably too strong. But
Speaker 2: could Baker get the Gino Smith contract this offseason? Gino
Speaker 2: got three year, seventy five million, forty million guaranteed.
Speaker 3: Could Baker get that from Tampa?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Is he the best quarterback in the division hands down?
Speaker 2: Is he going to be for the foreseeable future? Well,
Speaker 2: let's think about it. Carolina is stuck with Bryce, so yes.
Speaker 2: Arizona is stuck with Ritter until they draft one this year,
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna have a super high draft pick,
Speaker 2: so yes. And New Orleans is stuck with Derek Carr,
Speaker 2: who's having the worst season of his career and is
Speaker 2: only gonna get worse. So you're gonna have the best
Speaker 2: quarterback in his division in his prime, whose teammates a door,
Speaker 2: and who's been incredibly clutched this year.
Speaker 3: Just keep doing what you're doing, Baker.
Speaker 4: Next, the Bengals grinded out an overtime winvers the Vikings Saturday,
Speaker 4: after Drake Browning led three touchdown drives in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: Three Jeez, this guy is better than other backup quarterbacks, right.
Speaker 4: Jake Browning's future and Jake Browning's future in the NFL
Speaker 4: is blank.
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't know right now.
Speaker 2: It's hard to poke holes at him. I'm also gonna
Speaker 2: say something wildly controversial here maybe, and it's not about
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I think the best thing for Jake Browning might.
Speaker 3: Actually be to not play again.
Speaker 2: I think, like if Jake Browning like was, if he was,
Speaker 2: if they were like, oh man, he has a he
Speaker 2: needs arthroscopic surgery on his ankle, and he's out three
Speaker 2: weeks and doesn't play again, he maybe could be looking
Speaker 2: at millions of dollars like that.
Speaker 3: Like Josh Dobbs wishes so badly.
Speaker 2: That two weeks ago he could have been ruled out
Speaker 2: for the season, like some of these got and so
Speaker 2: I mean and Josh Dobbs all of a sudden is
Speaker 2: just gonna be back on moving from city to city,
Speaker 2: hoping to catch on somewhere. But there was a moment
Speaker 2: where it was like, is he gonna get a two year,
Speaker 2: twelve million dollar deal? As like a high level backup
Speaker 2: quarterback Jake Browning can't improve his stock, but if he
Speaker 2: keeps doing it, at some point, maybe you gotta be like,
Speaker 2: the guy's actually good, all right?
Speaker 4: Next, wait, the Matt Flynn contract. Is that a similar situation?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Matt Flynn. Yeah, so Matt Flynn was before
Speaker 2: you were a football fan. But Matt Flynn was Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers backup in Green Bay Demons. Matt Flynn's thing was
Speaker 2: even wilder. So Matt Flynn was Aaron Rodgers backup in
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And going into the final game of the
Speaker 2: twenty eleven season, Matt Flynn had only played really really,
Speaker 2: he had only started one game in his career, and
Speaker 2: he had played well in that game. He had three touchdowns,
Speaker 2: one pick, two hundred and fifty yards. Late in the
Speaker 2: twenty ten season and then the final week of twenty eleven,
Speaker 2: he was thirty one to forty four, four hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty yards, six touchdowns, one pick, and it was right
Speaker 2: before he hit free agency. And so the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, he's he's our guy, and
Speaker 2: they gave him. Let me find it exactly, they gave
Speaker 2: him at the time. There's a lot of money, three years,
Speaker 2: twenty million, ten million guaranteed to come in and be
Speaker 2: their guy. And that same year they drafted Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: And did the Seahawks credit, They were like, Russell's better.
Speaker 2: Matt Flynn is not the guy, definitely not going to
Speaker 2: be the guy.
Speaker 3: And he.
Speaker 2: And they started Russell and he got his money and
Speaker 2: then the rest of the way, Matt Flin was just
Speaker 2: a career backup.
Speaker 4: All right, next, All right, So the Bears blew it
Speaker 4: versus the Browns, but the wide receivers are still calling
Speaker 4: justin fields the quarterback of the future. Chicago's front office
Speaker 4: may not feel the same way, though, and they likely
Speaker 4: have two top five picks and cap space to rebuild
Speaker 4: around a top quarterback. The Bears offseason strategy should be blink.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what they should try to do is
Speaker 2: see if Atlanta will give them a first round pick
Speaker 2: for Justin Fields. Atlanta probably won't do that, So maybe
Speaker 2: a second and a fourth for Justin Fields and then
Speaker 2: draft Caleb and then draft the best player available with
Speaker 2: their own pick or trade down from there from their
Speaker 2: own pick and just keep stockpiling. But they've got cap space.
Speaker 2: They got a draft Caleb, and they need Justin to
Speaker 2: keep playing well. He got kind of screwed over by
Speaker 2: some drops there. He's still shown flashes where somebody will
Speaker 2: give up something for him. Right, Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 2: if he's good, but I think in the right circumstances
Speaker 2: he could be. He has good enough measurables, size, arm, talent, speed,
Speaker 2: athleticism and all the things that I that you guys
Speaker 2: kill me for, you know, criticizing brock Purty for not having.
Speaker 3: He has all of them, and so.
Speaker 2: There is like an upside to him, even though he
Speaker 2: has not demonstrated any consistent level of play. All right,
Speaker 2: last one, I don't want to do the Draymond question.
Speaker 2: I'm not into it right now.
Speaker 4: Okay, Indy and Houston, Cleveland and Cincy all won this
Speaker 4: week with backup quarterbacks and have their team's position to
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. The coach of the year is mko Rice.
Speaker 3: So I exactly right, that is correct. Listen.
Speaker 2: I think what Stefanski's done with four different quarterbacks is fun.
Speaker 2: I think Shane Steichen's done a good job in Indy.
Speaker 2: I think that there are good candidates, but they are all,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, fighting for second place. I Demiko and
Speaker 2: winning this week with case keenum that that team had
Speaker 2: no hope, they had no belief. The defense is playing great.
Speaker 2: It's not all Stroud's been awesome, but they didn't have
Speaker 2: stroud this week, and the defense eight the Titans alive.
Speaker 2: To me, it's Damiko Ryans with an absolute bullet All right,
Speaker 2: quick break, read.
Speaker 3: The chat questions? Next? What's right? All right?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: So demon say, let's roll through these listener questions real quick,
Speaker 3: go ahead.
Speaker 4: Daniel CHRISTI six says, would Deebo Samuel put up similar
Speaker 4: wins in decent numbers if they used him at quarterback?
Speaker 3: No, because he's not a quarterback.
Speaker 2: Like No, I don't think you could plug in a
Speaker 2: wide receiver and have him do what brock Purty does.
Speaker 2: I do think there are a dozen starting NFL quarterbacks
Speaker 2: who could.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 2: I don't think Justin I think Justin Fields. That was
Speaker 2: the idea when they drafted Trey was to have more
Speaker 2: of a dual threat. But the offense would look so different,
Speaker 2: but they would be, I mean, a wildly dominant running team.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think you.
Speaker 2: Could plug in Justin Fields in his current state, but
Speaker 2: I do think there are a bunch of guys you
Speaker 2: could plug in.
Speaker 4: Next, Scott Fraser has a take Browning has been better
Speaker 4: than Burrow this year.
Speaker 2: Well, Burrow was hurt, but they does speak to the
Speaker 2: fact that that first month of the year, when Burrow
Speaker 2: couldn't move and.
Speaker 3: Statistically was the worst quarterback in football.
Speaker 2: They should have at least given Jake Browning a shot
Speaker 2: and then maybe Burrow's healthy, then maybe Burrow doesn't suffer
Speaker 2: the wrist injury.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but.
Speaker 2: They acted like they didn't have a backup quarterback on
Speaker 2: the roster.
Speaker 4: Next, do you think the Benkals like disserviced overall? Is
Speaker 4: this like is that a way bigger thing than what
Speaker 4: it is?
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean it's been a it was
Speaker 2: a big topic on first things first, but I know
Speaker 2: you just you're more of a herd guy.
Speaker 3: You're not really watching my show, but yeah, I wat
Speaker 3: I talked about it quite a bit. All right, next.
Speaker 4: Elliott O, Yes, what is your favorite NFL classic type
Speaker 4: two take?
Speaker 2: I mean it in the past, it has been calling
Speaker 2: the Bills exactly right this it will be replaced by uh,
Speaker 2: how do I say this nicely?
Speaker 3: How the Niners get eliminated this year? That will replace
Speaker 3: it next?
Speaker 4: How the Niners? It's funny, he said, the n Y
Speaker 4: I feel like you meant to say something knows negative
Speaker 4: four and two said Nick. Do you think it's possible
Speaker 4: that chief Snovershi is legit and have more in store,
Speaker 4: but are saving it until the playoffs?
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think they're using it more and more,
Speaker 2: and you're seeing it. You're singing in snap count or
Speaker 2: seeing it this past week, and that you saw Rashi
Speaker 2: and Justin Watson be Rashi was on the field almost
Speaker 2: the entire game. They're gonna continue to ramp them up,
Speaker 2: and you're also gonna see Travis Kelce on the field more.
Speaker 2: I think that I don't think they're saving Rashi. I
Speaker 2: think they are slowly working a rookie in until he's
Speaker 2: fully kind of you know, into the offense. I think
Speaker 2: with Travis, they are trying to save him, and I
Speaker 2: think they were crazy cautious with Isaiah Pacheco. Now he
Speaker 2: also had you know, a cleanup on his shoulder to
Speaker 2: make sure he's healthy for the postseason. Uh go to Uh, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna ask the last two?
Speaker 3: Go ahead.
Speaker 4: Adrian Warez asked, what does the right family celebrate the wait?
Speaker 4: What does the right family celebrate the holiday? The holidays?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: We just uh, we'll see my mom, We'll see my sister.
Speaker 2: We'll do Christmas at our house.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Sat this is the first year Demonse won't be in
Speaker 2: town for it.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: But Demanse's got good setup in on the West coast,
Speaker 2: so we'll face time with him.
Speaker 3: And yeah, we just do.
Speaker 2: We were all together for Thanksgiving and we'll all be
Speaker 2: together for next Christmas hopefully. But Demanday's out there working guy.
Speaker 3: Listens.
Speaker 2: We don't pay him for the podcast. We can't miss
Speaker 2: his actual job. He's got to make that money, all right. Uh,
Speaker 2: what's the last one?
Speaker 4: Bar Bell? Bryce says, should the Seahawks roll with locks
Speaker 4: just for fun or put Gino back in? Last night
Speaker 4: was just awesome? Watch it actually exciting.
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was exciting, but you got it.
Speaker 2: If Gino's healthy, ease the well.
Speaker 3: No, I mean listen, great job by Drew Luck.
Speaker 2: He did his job and he did awesome and maybe
Speaker 2: now a team will take a look at him. But
Speaker 2: you got to put the better player in, all right.
Speaker 2: See you guys on the herd around one eastern on
Speaker 2: First Things First at three and then right back here
Speaker 2: on Thursday, round ten thirty, See you guys.
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