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Speaker 3: My name is Nick.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you're watching, you probably know it or the YouTube

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Speaker 2: I'm Nick. I used to show on FS one called

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Speaker 2: First Things First. You can watch it three pm Eastern

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Speaker 2: I said, my month's long fading of party coming to

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Speaker 3: For football or football fans.

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Speaker 2: You can argue, at least with Jason Kelsey's penalty, his

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Speaker 4: All right, Next, so your Chiefs finally got back in

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Speaker 2: I mean it was probably would have been before this

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Speaker 3: All right, take the Niners out. Take the Niners out.

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Speaker 2: Who's the team in the NFL that you can confidently

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Speaker 3: Rankings, and I would say that's fine.

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Speaker 2: So if at worst the Chiefs are the third best

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Speaker 2: in football the last month moved the ball at will?

435
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: Was that the discussion was it that Rashi Rice has

436
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,480
Speaker 2: come on to where he's going to be one thousand

437
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 2: yard ten touchdowns as a rookie, or was it that

438
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: they have one player on the team that keeps dropping

439
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: the ball? Fifty three man roster. Do you think there

440
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 2: has been more discussion over the last few weeks about

441
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Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes, the reigning.

442
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 3: League MVP and Super Bowl.

443
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 2: MVP, playing apex level Mahomes the last couple of weeks

444
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 2: when he had in the first two months of or

445
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:23,640
Speaker 2: about the twenty eighth most important player on the roster,

446
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: Karius Tony. I think it's pretty obvious what it's been.

447
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: I think that the commentary surrounding the Chiefs, they are

448
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 2: discussed at when we talk about the Chiefs offense. If

449
00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 2: I tell you right now they are top ten in

450
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,919
Speaker 2: yards and points, I think.

451
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Speaker 3: That shocks the audience.

452
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,480
Speaker 2: It's like, wait, they're top ten and that's the thing

453
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: we talk about being broken. If I tell you right

454
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: now that the Chiefs have more production from their number

455
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: one receiver this year, Rashi Rice, than they did last year.

456
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: You'd say that can't be. They lost Juju, and Juju

457
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 2: had three touchdowns last year three. You didn't have a

458
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: thousand yards and so my frustration is a simple one.

459
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 2: They never get blown out. They have no coin flip

460
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: wins and four coin flip losses, and we know those

461
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: things even out, and all of the discussion is about

462
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 2: what's wrong with them?

463
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 3: Now?

464
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Speaker 2: Did I do some of that to them by predicting

465
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 2: to go twenty and Oh?

466
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Speaker 3: Maybe, but that ship has long sailed. They lost first game.

467
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Speaker 4: Of the year. I think that would expect seat Patrick Mahomes.

468
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: You know, you got the greatest quarterback in the league

469
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Speaker 4: right now on your team. Probably just expect them to

470
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 4: blow teams out or do a little bit better, probably

471
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Speaker 4: hold them to a higher standard. Just confused, Why what's

472
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Speaker 4: taking so?

473
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Speaker 2: I guess so I so and again, But you said

474
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Speaker 2: not really taking off of You ain't the third best

475
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: team in the league. So if the standard is that,

476
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Speaker 2: if they are not the far and away best team

477
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 2: in football, something's wrong with them, then I'm here to

478
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,959
Speaker 2: tell you no team in league history would live up

479
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 2: to that standard every single year, and then we get

480
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: to Mahomes sover. So I'm glad you said that, because

481
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 2: here's the other part of it. If I were to

482
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: tell you right now, Patrick Mahomes this season leads the

483
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Speaker 2: NFL in total yards, is tied for fourth in the

484
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 2: NFL and touchdowns. It has a career high in completion percentage,

485
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 2: is fourth in the NFL. And QBR does that line

486
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 2: up with the commentary? No, and he has more picks

487
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: this year than in years past.

488
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, go ahead, Yeah, I was about to say

489
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 4: he's got a touchdown to pick ratio a little bit

490
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Speaker 4: higher on the base, I guess.

491
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Speaker 2: So, I guess I would argue that you can't double

492
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 2: dip the criticism. So are those picks because the wide

493
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: receivers stink and that's the big problem for the Chiefs.

494
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: Or is it that Mahomes isn't playing up to his standard?

495
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: It logically, it doesn't quite follow that.

496
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: It's both. It's not the wide.

497
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: Receivers are doing Mahomes dirty and Mahomes isn't playing well enough.

498
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 2: If you want to say, actually, Mahomes needs to play better.

499
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: The wide receivers are fine.

500
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Speaker 2: We can have that discussion, and if you want to

501
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: say the wide receivers are doing him dirty, then we

502
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 2: can have that discussion. But we are going to and

503
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: Vegas agrees. By the way, the Niners are massive Super

504
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: Bowl favorites, and then Baltimore and Kansas City are two

505
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 2: three with it being very close, we're going to get

506
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 2: to a place where by the end of the regular season,

507
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: when all the dust is settled, by the end of

508
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: the wildcard round of the playoffs, the Chiefs are the

509
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 2: favorites to win the AFC. And aside from on my

510
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: show when I'm talking, the vast majority of conversations surrounding

511
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 2: them all year has been what's wrong with them?

512
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 3: And I think that is misplaced. That's all. We'll see

513
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 3: if I'm proven wrong.

514
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: Maybe, Like, let me ask this question, do you think

515
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 2: there has been more positive commentary this season overall on

516
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs or on the Buffalo Bills, on

517
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes or on Josh Allen. Because one team is

518
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: in ninth place and needs to win out to make

519
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 2: the playoffs and the other on Christmas Day will clinch

520
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 2: their division for the eighth straight year, it just doesn't

521
00:30:58,160 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: quite sync up to me.

522
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Speaker 4: All right, now, okay, so, uh, your Cowboys are blown

523
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 4: out by the Bills the other day. The Bills are

524
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 4: officially not out of the playoffs. They are still in it,

525
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: but like you said, they have to fight for their

526
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 4: lives on Christmas Day? Yea, how could this have gone

527
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: any worse for you? Do you? How do you feel

528
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 4: about that?

529
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was especially now that Philly lost, because

530
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: it's a blown opportunity for Dallas. They could have been

531
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 2: solo first place in their division. They could have kept

532
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: the pressure on San Francisco, where San Francisco would.

533
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: Have to keep winning in order to be the one seed.

534
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 2: Now, as far as the Bills, I mean I the

535
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: Bills were called during this game the hottest team in

536
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 2: the NFL. Before the game started, I should say, they

537
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 2: were on a one game winning streak where they didn't

538
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: even play well in the second half of that one game.

539
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: The Bills just continue to be.

540
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: A evaluated by a totally different standard than the rest

541
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Speaker 2: of the league. Now, I don't think they're gonna make

542
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: the playoffs. I also think if they were to make

543
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: the playoffs, they are not this wildly dangerous team everyone

544
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: else believes. But I've talked enough about the Bills. I

545
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: am not shocked. I am shocked by the result of

546
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: this game. I thought Dallas could put it on them.

547
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: I was dead wrong on that, and I am shocked

548
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: that Buffalo just decided.

549
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 3: To run the ball, run the ball, run the ball.

550
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: It worked great, and Dallas wasn't prepared for it. But

551
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: I'm not shocked that the Bill's A game looks great.

552
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: The Bill's A game has look great for four years.

553
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: Their problem is their inability to string those A games together,

554
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: and this year their problem now is in order just

555
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 2: to make the postseason, they are going to have to

556
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: string together six weeks of wins just to be in

557
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: the single elimination tournament. So I think the Bills right

558
00:32:55,680 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: now are wildly overvalued by my colleagues. But we'll see

559
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 2: if I end.

560
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 3: Up being right about it.

561
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: It should be noted I've been the only person in

562
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: the national media right about the Bills for four years now.

563
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the year everyone else is right and

564
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,479
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. But I've had this team pretty well pegged

565
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: for four seasons in a row, and I know people

566
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 2: want this team.

567
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: They remind me so much.

568
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: Some of the commentary about the Bills, except they don't have,

569
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: you know, as many superstars as the commentary surrounding the

570
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 2: nets when they had Katie Harden and Kyrie. People so

571
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: badly want this team to be something it's never actually

572
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: shown it can be for sustained periods of times.

573
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 4: Are just a really fun team to watch, is what

574
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 4: I think is what draws people. I think they're games.

575
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're exciting.

576
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: Games are really fun.

577
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: I totally agree, they're very exciting. They're exciting, but they're

578
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: not as exciting as the Dolphins. And the Dolphins don't

579
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 2: get a quarter of the love Buffalo gets, even though

580
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are ten and four and Buffalo is eight

581
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 2: and six. And I understand Buffalo whooped the Dolphins ass

582
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: when they played two months ago, but the Dolphins have

583
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: avoided that the Bills haven't. Is egregious losses. The Buffalo

584
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: Bills this year have lost games to Zach Wilson, Mac Jones,

585
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 2: and Russell Wilson. They tried to lose a game to

586
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones. And so this idea that they're gonna win

587
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: five straight and surge into the playoffs, we'll see if

588
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: I'm wrong. I don't think I will be. Now for

589
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: the Cowboys. Obviously, if they don't end up winning the division,

590
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 2: they do seem to be two totally different teams at

591
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 2: home versus on the road, and that could be a

592
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 2: big problem for them.

593
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 4: All right, last one, yo, So Trevor Lawrence, so you're Jaguars.

594
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 4: They went up against the Ravens and Trevor Lawrence couldn't

595
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: bring out the dub the turnovers or a problem per

596
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: usual overthrowing. I actually placed a bet on Lamar ja

597
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: as scoring to or getting two hundred yards, and I

598
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 4: just needed your guy, Trevor Lawrence to lead a drive

599
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: to make him have to pass it, and he couldn't

600
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: do it. He just couldn't do it.

601
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: A lot of the blame by Lamar to have two

602
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 2: hundred yards. I mean, he had plenty of possessions. Maybe

603
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: Lamar should have just thrown for more yards.

604
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: But go ahead, JAG's making a game either or. Yeah,

605
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,720
Speaker 4: A lot of the blame falls on Trevor Lawrence, per usual,

606
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: who is terrible with his fourth quarter turnovers. Do you

607
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 4: think that there's a chance that Trevor Lawrence is just

608
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 4: Josh Allen with good hair?

609
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so listen, I actually think that's kind of unfair

610
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: to both of them. I think it's unfair to Josh

611
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 2: and that Trevor hasn't shown the A plus level sustained

612
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: moments that Josh has had. And I think it's unfair

613
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: to Trevor and that Trevor has not been a head

614
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 2: scratching turnover machine over the last couple of years. Now,

615
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: he played a very poor game on Sunday night. The

616
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: fumble was ludicrous. He's just running and drops the ball.

617
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: And even worse than the fumble was the end of

618
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 2: the first half. The end of the first half, when

619
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: they don't get points, they win. It's fine, if you're

620
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 2: not gonna spike the ball, you gotta throw it into

621
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 2: the end zone. Now, what is true is Trevor was

622
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: eight and three and the Jags, or the Jags were

623
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 2: eight and three, and Trevor was rolling and they were

624
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: scoring thirty plus on Cincinnati, and then he got the

625
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 2: high ankle sprain, and since then he hasn't been quite

626
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: as good. Now, that doesn't excuse the fumble or the

627
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: mental mistake at the end of the first half.

628
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: But I think that I think that the Jags have.

629
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Speaker 2: To be careful now that Trevor's in concussion protocol, because

630
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: if he misses this week and they play Baker, they

631
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 2: could lose. In all of a sudden, they probably won't

632
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 2: be in first place in the division with Indy and

633
00:36:58,200 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 2: Houston tied with him.

634
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 3: Luckily, for the.

635
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 2: Jags, they have the Panthers and the Titans as their

636
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 2: next two and so even if they don't win the division,

637
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: they can get to ten and seven relatively easily. And

638
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: that's again where people are all high.

639
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: On the Bills. The Bills lost.

640
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 2: Head to head to Jacksonville. That's a tiebreaker that could

641
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 2: come into play. They lost had dead to Cincinnati, that's

642
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: a tiebreaker that could come into play. I don't think

643
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: Denver's gonna get to ten wins, but they lost had

644
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 2: to head to Denver. That's a tiebreaker that could come

645
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 2: into play. Like those tiebreakers, the Bill's path is going

646
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: to be they've got to win that division. The Bills

647
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: path is going to be that they need Miami to

648
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: lose to either Dallas or Baltimore and then to Buffalo

649
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. That's the Bill's path,

650
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: and I don't know that they're gonna get it. Now

651
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 2: to the Jags, here's the fact of the matter. Trevor

652
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 2: overall this year has been disappointing compared to what I

653
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: thought he would be.

654
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: I thought he'd be an in VP candidate. He has

655
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 3: not been.

656
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 2: I thought the Jags would win thirteen games. They have

657
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: six losses already, and so that is. It was looking good.

658
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: Trevor was starting to play his best ball. They were

659
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: eight and three, He was starting to play better, and

660
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden he gets hurt and they

661
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: have some really bad losses. Lost to the Bengals, the

662
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: loss to the Browns and Joe Flacco when Trevor throws

663
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: three picks when I don't.

664
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 3: Think he should play.

665
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 2: And then a game against the Ravens where I didn't

666
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 2: think the Ravens defense played great and the Jags missed

667
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: field goal, miss field goal, give the ball away on

668
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,879
Speaker 2: a terrible fumble.

669
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 3: Don't get points for the half.

670
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: They should add twenty points at a halftime, and they

671
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: had seven or they had zero, Actually, pardon me, did they.

672
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: How many did they have at halftime?

673
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: I think they might have.

674
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 2: No, No, no, it was ten to nothing at half

675
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: time because they hit the long touchdown to Agnew at

676
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: the start of the third quarter. But they could I

677
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 2: mean they missed two field goals, they fumble the ball

678
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,479
Speaker 2: in the red zone, they don't get points for the half.

679
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: All that's terrible, and so Trevor needs to be better.

680
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: There's no denying then, all right, Brock Party is the

681
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: overwhelming favorite for League MVP. We discuss it next. What's right.

682
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: Before we get to our game, demons, Let's do uh

683
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: the MVP discussion right now? It's Brock Purty is a

684
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: huge Vegas.

685
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 4: Favorite, huge Vegas favorite, especially because we got Dak and

686
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 4: Hurts falling off. Tarik's miss time, so he's falling off. Yep.

687
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 4: Brock Party is a heavy MVP favorite and he's minus

688
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 4: two hundred to win. Now. Question is no longer will

689
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 4: he win the MVP, it's who can even stop him

690
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 4: from winning the MVP? So what do you mean.

691
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: His teammates or coaches talking is the only thing that

692
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: can maybe stop him. Kyle Shannan was asked before this

693
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 2: last game about Christian or Brock being MVP. He's like,

694
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about one or the other,

695
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: and then he gave a fusive praise to Christian McCaffrey

696
00:39:55,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: and tepid praise to Party. George Kittle was asked straight

697
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,800
Speaker 2: up yesterday who do you think the league MVP is,

698
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: and he said, I'd give it to Christian and this

699
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: is where and so listen, I think Party's probably gonna win.

700
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 2: I would prefer the MVP not turn into the Heisman

701
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 2: Trophy where the Heisman. It doesn't happen so much nowadays,

702
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: but there was a time in the early two thousands

703
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,360
Speaker 2: when the Heisman Trophy was just all right, who's the

704
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: best team in college football? Who's their quarterback? And Jason

705
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,240
Speaker 2: White and Chris Winky and Danny Werfel won Heisman trophies

706
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: that they shouldn't have. I think Chris Winky won. Am

707
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 2: I making that up?

708
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 3: Uh? The yeah?

709
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: I mean this is the did I make a no?

710
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 2: He did win, so the Heisman Trophy. In fact, let

711
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: me just go to it real quick. Heisman Trophy nineteen.

712
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 4: He is the quarterback for the most dominant team in

713
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 4: the NFL right now, and he's got perfect passer rating games.

714
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 4: I don't care, Like if you could, there are quarterbacks

715
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 4: that you could put in there that are going to

716
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 4: do worse. I mean that's obvious, but it's like not

717
00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 4: anybody can do what Rock Party is doing, and you're

718
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 4: just making it seem like you could throw any quarterback.

719
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 3: What do you mean not? What do you mean not anybody?

720
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: What do you mean not.

721
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 4: About I mean Zach Wilson probably couldn't go in there

722
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 4: and do it. He wouldn't be.

723
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: No, no, okay, so I wanted Oh no, no, no. Of course,

724
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: if you're saying so, you're saying there's only like like

725
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 2: twelve guys that could do what brock Perty.

726
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 4: Gino Smith probably wouldn't be MVP on that team.

727
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 3: I agree.

728
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 4: I agree, No, but you you don't even think I'm

729
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: saying that like they wouldn't. He wouldn't even be the

730
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 4: m v P favorite right now, is what I'm saying.

731
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree with all that. Do you think

732
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins could be if you were healthy?

733
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: I do? Do you think that? I mean, honestly, what

734
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: do you healthy?

735
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: On the on the on the night? Oh okay, they

736
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 4: live fine. And and if and if Dak got the

737
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: m v P and he was lee that dominant team,

738
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 4: and I think he deserves the MVP.

739
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, so listen, I am. I'm not arguing.

740
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: That I thought rock Perty actually made one of the

741
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: best plays he's made.

742
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 3: All season.

743
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 2: In that Cardinals game, the throw to Debo, I think

744
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: it was Debo was a Debo r. It was Debo

745
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: in the front corner of the end zone, perfectly placed. Oh,

746
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: it was an elite, high level throw. I'm not arguing

747
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: that every quarterback in the league could play for the

748
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,399
Speaker 2: Niners and look great. I think fifteen could I do

749
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: think that, And I think that ten would look significantly better.

750
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: And you might say, Nick, how could they look better? Well,

751
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: they add a three game losing streak directly related to

752
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: his play, like that happened, and we do a weird

753
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: thing with like recency bias, Like Jalen is totally eliminated

754
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: from the MVP discussion. Why because of a three game

755
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: losing streak, totally out of it. Dax eliminated from it

756
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 2: because of one bad game. Dak was the favorite and

757
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: now he's out because of one bad game. But Brock

758
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: had three in a row, but it was months ago.

759
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: I listen, if folks want to give the most Valuable

760
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: Player award to a like, let me just I guess

761
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 2: here's my question. Does anybody listening think Brock party. Let's

762
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: just see. You don't have to check all of these boxes,

763
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: But let's see if he checks any Does anybody think

764
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,799
Speaker 2: Brock Purty is the best player on his own team?

765
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 3: No?

766
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: Does anybody think Brock Purty is the most valuable player

767
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: on his own team? I would argue, no, Does anybody

768
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 2: think Brock Party is the most talented quarterback.

769
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: In the NFL? I would argue, No.

770
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 2: Does anybody think Brock Purty is the most valuable quarterback

771
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 2: in the NFL? I would argue, no, does anybody actually

772
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 2: think Brock Party is the best quarterback in the NFL?

773
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 2: I would argue, Now, does anybody actually think that if

774
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: the Niners replaced Brock Party with literally any other quarterback

775
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 2: that will get a single solitary even fifth place MVP vote,

776
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 2: they would get worse? So that would mean Tua, Mahomes,

777
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: dak Lamar Jalen, those guys that the Niners would get worse.

778
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: I would argue, Now, does anybody not think that if

779
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: you replace Rock Party with any of those quarterbacks then

780
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 2: Niners would get better? Obviously, maybe not Tua, maybe not Toua,

781
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 2: but everybody else. But I also haven't been promoting to

782
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: his league MVP, but we're gonna make him league MVP. Okay,

783
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 2: you guys have skipped the step. And this is what

784
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 2: is so baffling to me. If the conversation surrounding Brock

785
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: Purdy had simply gone to Nick, are you ready to

786
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: admit he's clearly better than Jimmy Garoppolo, I would have

787
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 2: no choice. Clearly he is, Nick. Are you ready to

788
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 2: admit he makes more wow plays than you thought he

789
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 2: was capable of. I would have no choice but to

790
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: admit it. But instead we skipped every single step, and

791
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: the conversation became, are you ready to admit he should

792
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: win an award that over the last you know, half

793
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: dozen years, has been won by Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers,

794
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson, and Tom Brady.

795
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 3: That seems to me to be a bridge too far,

796
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 3: But everyone else is cool with it. Everyone else, every other.

797
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 2: Let me ask one other question for every other MVP candidate,

798
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: if they went down right before a playoff game, would

799
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: you write their team off? Of course, for the Niners,

800
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: not only would you not write them off, but deep down,

801
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 2: if a.

802
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 3: Nin were asked, all right, we have to either lose.

803
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:45,440
Speaker 2: Brock or Christian for this playoff game. Pick one, we

804
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: have to either lose Brock or Williams.

805
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: No, that is not what we saw.

806
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: No, that's but that's not what we saw. What we

807
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,840
Speaker 3: saw was.

808
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: A game where Brock went down, then his backup got

809
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: a concussion, who was their fourth stringer, and then they

810
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: were out of quarterbacks. We have not seen the Niners

811
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: play a game with I mean, we did see them

812
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: play with Jimmy Garoppolo and Christian McCaffery, and in the

813
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: games he started, they were undefeated, and Garoppolo at a

814
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: one ten rating and looked like the best quarterback in football.

815
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,799
Speaker 2: But Brock's better than Jimmy Garoppolo. So listen, I'm not

816
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm I always say I'm sick of this argument, and

817
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 2: then I do ten minutes on it. I the we

818
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:38,319
Speaker 2: are going to give the league MVP award to a

819
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:45,280
Speaker 2: player that even his own teammates as of yesterday don't

820
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 2: think he should win.

821
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 4: Okay, mate, so be it?

822
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 3: You think, Oh you think you think Kittle's the only one.

823
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: You think Kittle's the only one. Deebo went on a

824
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 4: podcast saying that that he definitely should get it, or

825
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 4: I don't know. That actually might not have been MVP thing,

826
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: That might have just been a given respect type of

827
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 4: thing now I think about it.

828
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, listen, and I want to read you a quote.

829
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 2: Hold on, let me find the exact quote. Gosh darn it,

830
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 2: I have to find it or I'm going to lose

831
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 2: my mind.

832
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Here.

833
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 3: I want to read you a quote. Where is it?

834
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 3: Because this is this is.

835
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 4: Why you look to be fair. You've got to pull

836
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 4: in here asking it's party, the most valuable player on

837
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: his team. Thirty say yes, sixty eight percent say no.

838
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:36,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but listen.

839
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,959
Speaker 2: To be fair with you, I want to read you

840
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 2: some quotes from Trent Williams and Christian McCaffrey. Okay, quote

841
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: from Trent Williams. He's a baller. I don't know why

842
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: that's ever been in question. Every time you see the man,

843
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 2: all he does is win. He's a great teammate, he's

844
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,720
Speaker 2: a great dude. Just hate to see him get slighted

845
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 2: all the time because I feel like he's such a

846
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: good talent, such a good quarterback. He's the main reason

847
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: we are playing that. Well, that's from Trent Williams. Here's

848
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey. He's such a talented quarterback. He doesn't get

849
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 2: enough credit in my eyes at all. He's a great leader,

850
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: super smart, can make any throw, and just a great

851
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: guy to be around. It's been a lot of fun

852
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 2: to be able to pick his brain and mesh with him.

853
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: Trent Williams went on to say, sorry, yeah, yeah, exactly,

854
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: and then Trumps went on to say, when asked about

855
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: the criticism he gets, it surprises me. I ain't gonna lie.

856
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 2: He does everything right. He's not a knucklehead. He's a model,

857
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: a teammate. You can't get better than him. Just to

858
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 2: see some of the people say that stuff about him,

859
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: it sucks, but it's life.

860
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 3: Jimmy's a really great dude.

861
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,600
Speaker 2: I oh, those were all quotes from last year about

862
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo.

863
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 3: Damn.

864
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 2: And I thought I was making a case for Brock Purty,

865
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: but I misgoogled it. November twenty third, Trent Williams Christian

866
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: McCaffrey surprised Jimmy g doesn't get the respect he deserves. Ah, damn,

867
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's unfair. I really thought I was defending

868
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 2: Brock Party there. Instead, it's the same yeah I did.

869
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 2: It's the same exact guys giving the same exact platitudes

870
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,520
Speaker 2: about a player that, unlike Party. We now all acknowledge

871
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: stinks and the same god Doog player that I had

872
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,760
Speaker 2: to argue with you same dopes about for four years.

873
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: Oh he's been to a super Bowl. When he's held,

874
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 3: they win. Look at the numbers and the same thing

875
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 3: I watched in this.

876
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 2: Game Sat Sunday that made brock Perty the MVP favorite,

877
00:50:54,560 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, be schemed so open that he felled down,

878
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: got up and still went into the end zone untouched.

879
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:09,840
Speaker 2: You know that play right, Bertie season Christian catches it,

880
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 2: falls down, stands up, no one's around, and just walks

881
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: into the end zone.

882
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 4: Go ahead, you said it yourself, though you already said

883
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 4: it yourselves. This is different from the Jimmy Garoppolo situation

884
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: being the parties.

885
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: He's better, he's better, that does I listen. Everybody has

886
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: different standards and different tastes.

887
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: That's fine.

888
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 2: My standard for League MVP is not be better than

889
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Garoppolo. If that were the case, where's the aid

890
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 2: and O'Connell's support. Let's play the game. I'm not talking

891
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 2: MVP anymore. I'm done with it. I'm done with it.

892
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 4: Stupid ahead. So we're playing a game today. It's called

893
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 4: right ends we don't have any boards, so I'm pretty

894
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 4: sure we're just gonna boards, all right. So first off,

895
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 4: for starting with starting with Baker. Yeah, Baker went to

896
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 4: Green Bay and became the first visiting quarterback to have

897
00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 4: a perfect perfect passer rating. The Bucks a leading in

898
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 4: the NFC South, and their quarterback is so hot right

899
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 4: now that Belichick. Belichick had to roll his sleeves up

900
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: to his hoodie to prove Tampa should build around him.

901
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: That's Baker must that is That's a good one.

902
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,439
Speaker 3: Just keep doing what he's doing. Keep doing what he's doing.

903
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 2: I mean, build around him is probably too strong. But

904
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 2: could Baker get the Gino Smith contract this offseason? Gino

905
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 2: got three year, seventy five million, forty million guaranteed.

906
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 3: Could Baker get that from Tampa?

907
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Is he the best quarterback in the division hands down?

908
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 2: Is he going to be for the foreseeable future? Well,

909
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:52,439
Speaker 2: let's think about it. Carolina is stuck with Bryce, so yes.

910
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: Arizona is stuck with Ritter until they draft one this year,

911
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 2: but they're not gonna have a super high draft pick,

912
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: so yes. And New Orleans is stuck with Derek Carr,

913
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 2: who's having the worst season of his career and is

914
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:04,600
Speaker 2: only gonna get worse. So you're gonna have the best

915
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: quarterback in his division in his prime, whose teammates a door,

916
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: and who's been incredibly clutched this year.

917
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,360
Speaker 3: Just keep doing what you're doing, Baker.

918
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: Next, the Bengals grinded out an overtime winvers the Vikings Saturday,

919
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: after Drake Browning led three touchdown drives in the fourth quarter.

920
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 4: Three Jeez, this guy is better than other backup quarterbacks, right.

921
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 4: Jake Browning's future and Jake Browning's future in the NFL

922
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 4: is blank.

923
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,560
Speaker 3: Listen. I don't know right now.

924
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 2: It's hard to poke holes at him. I'm also gonna

925
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 2: say something wildly controversial here maybe, and it's not about

926
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I think the best thing for Jake Browning might.

927
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,320
Speaker 3: Actually be to not play again.

928
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,279
Speaker 2: I think, like if Jake Browning like was, if he was,

929
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: if they were like, oh man, he has a he

930
00:53:56,880 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: needs arthroscopic surgery on his ankle, and he's out three

931
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,479
Speaker 2: weeks and doesn't play again, he maybe could be looking

932
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 2: at millions of dollars like that.

933
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 3: Like Josh Dobbs wishes so badly.

934
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 2: That two weeks ago he could have been ruled out

935
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 2: for the season, like some of these got and so

936
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: I mean and Josh Dobbs all of a sudden is

937
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,840
Speaker 2: just gonna be back on moving from city to city,

938
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 2: hoping to catch on somewhere. But there was a moment

939
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: where it was like, is he gonna get a two year,

940
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: twelve million dollar deal? As like a high level backup

941
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: quarterback Jake Browning can't improve his stock, but if he

942
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: keeps doing it, at some point, maybe you gotta be like,

943
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: the guy's actually good, all right?

944
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 4: Next, wait, the Matt Flynn contract. Is that a similar situation?

945
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Matt Flynn. Yeah, so Matt Flynn was before

946
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:50,280
Speaker 2: you were a football fan. But Matt Flynn was Aaron

947
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 2: Rodgers backup in Green Bay Demons. Matt Flynn's thing was

948
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:57,160
Speaker 2: even wilder. So Matt Flynn was Aaron Rodgers backup in

949
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 2: Green Bay. And going into the final game of the

950
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 2: twenty eleven season, Matt Flynn had only played really really,

951
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 2: he had only started one game in his career, and

952
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 2: he had played well in that game. He had three touchdowns,

953
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: one pick, two hundred and fifty yards. Late in the

954
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,720
Speaker 2: twenty ten season and then the final week of twenty eleven,

955
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: he was thirty one to forty four, four hundred and

956
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: eighty yards, six touchdowns, one pick, and it was right

957
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 2: before he hit free agency. And so the Seattle Seahawks

958
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 2: were like, oh my god, he's he's our guy, and

959
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 2: they gave him. Let me find it exactly, they gave

960
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:52,280
Speaker 2: him at the time. There's a lot of money, three years,

961
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: twenty million, ten million guaranteed to come in and be

962
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 2: their guy. And that same year they drafted Russell Wilson,

963
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 2: And did the Seahawks credit, They were like, Russell's better.

964
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: Matt Flynn is not the guy, definitely not going to

965
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: be the guy.

966
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 3: And he.

967
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: And they started Russell and he got his money and

968
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: then the rest of the way, Matt Flin was just

969
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: a career backup.

970
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 4: All right, next, All right, So the Bears blew it

971
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 4: versus the Browns, but the wide receivers are still calling

972
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: justin fields the quarterback of the future. Chicago's front office

973
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 4: may not feel the same way, though, and they likely

974
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 4: have two top five picks and cap space to rebuild

975
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 4: around a top quarterback. The Bears offseason strategy should be blink.

976
00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, what they should try to do is

977
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,479
Speaker 2: see if Atlanta will give them a first round pick

978
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,720
Speaker 2: for Justin Fields. Atlanta probably won't do that, So maybe

979
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 2: a second and a fourth for Justin Fields and then

980
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 2: draft Caleb and then draft the best player available with

981
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: their own pick or trade down from there from their

982
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: own pick and just keep stockpiling. But they've got cap space.

983
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: They got a draft Caleb, and they need Justin to

984
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: keep playing well. He got kind of screwed over by

985
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: some drops there. He's still shown flashes where somebody will

986
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: give up something for him. Right, Yeah, I don't know

987
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: if he's good, but I think in the right circumstances

988
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: he could be. He has good enough measurables, size, arm, talent, speed,

989
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: athleticism and all the things that I that you guys

990
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: kill me for, you know, criticizing brock Purty for not having.

991
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 3: He has all of them, and so.

992
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 2: There is like an upside to him, even though he

993
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 2: has not demonstrated any consistent level of play. All right,

994
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: last one, I don't want to do the Draymond question.

995
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm not into it right now.

996
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 4: Okay, Indy and Houston, Cleveland and Cincy all won this

997
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 4: week with backup quarterbacks and have their team's position to

998
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 4: make the playoffs. The coach of the year is mko Rice.

999
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 3: So I exactly right, that is correct. Listen.

1000
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,479
Speaker 2: I think what Stefanski's done with four different quarterbacks is fun.

1001
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: I think Shane Steichen's done a good job in Indy.

1002
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: I think that there are good candidates, but they are all,

1003
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 2: in my opinion, fighting for second place. I Demiko and

1004
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: winning this week with case keenum that that team had

1005
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 2: no hope, they had no belief. The defense is playing great.

1006
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 2: It's not all Stroud's been awesome, but they didn't have

1007
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 2: stroud this week, and the defense eight the Titans alive.

1008
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: To me, it's Damiko Ryans with an absolute bullet All right,

1009
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: quick break, read.

1010
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 3: The chat questions? Next? What's right? All right?

1011
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 2: Uh?

1012
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,800
Speaker 3: So demon say, let's roll through these listener questions real quick,

1013
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 3: go ahead.

1014
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 4: Daniel CHRISTI six says, would Deebo Samuel put up similar

1015
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 4: wins in decent numbers if they used him at quarterback?

1016
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 3: No, because he's not a quarterback.

1017
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: Like No, I don't think you could plug in a

1018
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 2: wide receiver and have him do what brock Purty does.

1019
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: I do think there are a dozen starting NFL quarterbacks

1020
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: who could.

1021
00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 4: No.

1022
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 2: I don't think Justin I think Justin Fields. That was

1023
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: the idea when they drafted Trey was to have more

1024
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 2: of a dual threat. But the offense would look so different,

1025
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: but they would be, I mean, a wildly dominant running team.

1026
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:25,480
Speaker 3: No, I don't think you.

1027
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 2: Could plug in Justin Fields in his current state, but

1028
00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 2: I do think there are a bunch of guys you

1029
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:31,040
Speaker 2: could plug in.

1030
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 4: Next, Scott Fraser has a take Browning has been better

1031
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: than Burrow this year.

1032
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 2: Well, Burrow was hurt, but they does speak to the

1033
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 2: fact that that first month of the year, when Burrow

1034
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 2: couldn't move and.

1035
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: Statistically was the worst quarterback in football.

1036
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 2: They should have at least given Jake Browning a shot

1037
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 2: and then maybe Burrow's healthy, then maybe Burrow doesn't suffer

1038
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: the wrist injury.

1039
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:54,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, but.

1040
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 2: They acted like they didn't have a backup quarterback on

1041
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 2: the roster.

1042
00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 4: Next, do you think the Benkals like disserviced overall? Is

1043
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: this like is that a way bigger thing than what

1044
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 4: it is?

1045
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I mean it's been a it was

1046
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 2: a big topic on first things first, but I know

1047
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 2: you just you're more of a herd guy.

1048
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: You're not really watching my show, but yeah, I wat

1049
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 3: I talked about it quite a bit. All right, next.

1050
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 4: Elliott O, Yes, what is your favorite NFL classic type

1051
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 4: two take?

1052
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 2: I mean it in the past, it has been calling

1053
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 2: the Bills exactly right this it will be replaced by uh,

1054
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: how do I say this nicely?

1055
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 3: How the Niners get eliminated this year? That will replace

1056
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 3: it next?

1057
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 4: How the Niners? It's funny, he said, the n Y

1058
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 4: I feel like you meant to say something knows negative

1059
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 4: four and two said Nick. Do you think it's possible

1060
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 4: that chief Snovershi is legit and have more in store,

1061
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 4: but are saving it until the playoffs?

1062
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think they're using it more and more,

1063
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: and you're seeing it. You're singing in snap count or

1064
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 2: seeing it this past week, and that you saw Rashi

1065
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 2: and Justin Watson be Rashi was on the field almost

1066
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 2: the entire game. They're gonna continue to ramp them up,

1067
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 2: and you're also gonna see Travis Kelce on the field more.

1068
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,960
Speaker 2: I think that I don't think they're saving Rashi. I

1069
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: think they are slowly working a rookie in until he's

1070
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 2: fully kind of you know, into the offense. I think

1071
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 2: with Travis, they are trying to save him, and I

1072
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,880
Speaker 2: think they were crazy cautious with Isaiah Pacheco. Now he

1073
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 2: also had you know, a cleanup on his shoulder to

1074
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:36,240
Speaker 2: make sure he's healthy for the postseason. Uh go to Uh, oh,

1075
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna ask the last two?

1076
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 3: Go ahead.

1077
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 4: Adrian Warez asked, what does the right family celebrate the wait?

1078
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 4: What does the right family celebrate the holiday? The holidays?

1079
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 3: Oh?

1080
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: We just uh, we'll see my mom, We'll see my sister.

1081
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,560
Speaker 2: We'll do Christmas at our house.

1082
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Sat this is the first year Demonse won't be in

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Speaker 2: town for it.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: But Demanse's got good setup in on the West coast,

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Speaker 2: so we'll face time with him.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, we just do.

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Speaker 2: We were all together for Thanksgiving and we'll all be

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Speaker 2: together for next Christmas hopefully. But Demanday's out there working guy.

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Speaker 3: Listens.

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Speaker 2: We don't pay him for the podcast. We can't miss

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Speaker 2: his actual job. He's got to make that money, all right. Uh,

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Speaker 2: what's the last one?

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Speaker 4: Bar Bell? Bryce says, should the Seahawks roll with locks

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Speaker 4: just for fun or put Gino back in? Last night

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Speaker 4: was just awesome? Watch it actually exciting.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was exciting, but you got it.

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Speaker 2: If Gino's healthy, ease the well.

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Speaker 3: No, I mean listen, great job by Drew Luck.

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Speaker 2: He did his job and he did awesome and maybe

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Speaker 2: now a team will take a look at him. But

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Speaker 2: you got to put the better player in, all right.

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Speaker 2: See you guys on the herd around one eastern on

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Speaker 2: First Things First at three and then right back here

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Speaker 2: on Thursday, round ten thirty, See you guys.

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Speaker 3: Great job. Demanday, great job Blue duck folks. What's right? Hey,

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Speaker 3: it's Nick right, Thank you so much for watching. Please

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Speaker 3: do us a favor. Click subscribe.

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Speaker 2: It helps my ego and Demansey's got a financial bonus

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Speaker 2: writing on.

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Speaker 3: A number of YouTube subscribers, so help him out. And

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Speaker 3: also click the bell.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the bell does, but they tell

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Speaker 2: me to tell you to click the bell.

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Speaker 3: And you're audio listeners. People that have commute strives, whatever

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Speaker 3: it is. Subscribe to the podcast as well. Wherever you

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Speaker 3: get the podcast, same show, just you know, just in

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Speaker 3: your ears instead of through your eyes. All that. Check

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Speaker 3: it out, Appreciate show.