1 00:00:04,364 --> 00:00:07,244 Speaker 1: Ten Takes is a production of the NFL in partnership 2 00:00:07,284 --> 00:00:19,524 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:24,404 --> 00:00:28,404 Speaker 2: Watching Sonny Style's workout, it's reminding me of different moments 4 00:00:28,404 --> 00:00:31,004 Speaker 2: when I'm seeing someone for the first time. I remember 5 00:00:31,044 --> 00:00:33,484 Speaker 2: watching True Detective season one and I was like this 6 00:00:33,684 --> 00:00:34,804 Speaker 2: Alexander Dideria. 7 00:00:34,844 --> 00:00:37,324 Speaker 3: I was like, who the hell is this? 8 00:00:37,564 --> 00:00:40,644 Speaker 2: What am I looking at right now? That was Sonny 9 00:00:40,684 --> 00:00:44,324 Speaker 2: Styles yesterday. I'll go back, man, woman doesn't matter. First 10 00:00:44,404 --> 00:00:46,444 Speaker 2: time I saw Thelma Luise, you think it's about these 11 00:00:46,484 --> 00:00:47,604 Speaker 2: two ladies, Robin. 12 00:00:47,444 --> 00:00:50,204 Speaker 3: Banks everything, and then you're like, who is this guy? 13 00:00:50,244 --> 00:00:50,884 Speaker 3: Brad Pitt. 14 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:53,684 Speaker 2: He's got the hair drive gun, and like, wow, this 15 00:00:53,724 --> 00:00:57,204 Speaker 2: guy's going places. That was Sonny Styles doing an eleven 16 00:00:57,244 --> 00:00:59,604 Speaker 2: to two broad jump. More than that, I remember being 17 00:00:59,644 --> 00:01:03,804 Speaker 2: in about sixth grade watching a show called In Living Color, and. 18 00:01:03,844 --> 00:01:06,444 Speaker 3: I'm like, who is this Fire Marshall. 19 00:01:06,124 --> 00:01:08,644 Speaker 2: Bill making all the faces. This guy's gonna be a 20 00:01:08,764 --> 00:01:11,084 Speaker 2: massive star. Look at the raw talent. 21 00:01:11,804 --> 00:01:14,364 Speaker 3: That was Sonny Styles running a four four six forty. 22 00:01:14,524 --> 00:01:16,644 Speaker 2: I'll go back to the eighties. I watched Growing Pains 23 00:01:16,684 --> 00:01:19,524 Speaker 2: all the time. Late in that run, there's this troubled 24 00:01:19,524 --> 00:01:22,684 Speaker 2: teenager that they take in and the severs take under 25 00:01:22,724 --> 00:01:24,364 Speaker 2: their wing, and I'm like, this guy is gonna be 26 00:01:24,404 --> 00:01:26,724 Speaker 2: the biggest movie star of the next forty years. That's 27 00:01:26,764 --> 00:01:29,844 Speaker 2: watching Sonny Styles. Who look, he's just floating around Lucas Oil, 28 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:34,124 Speaker 2: just flying. Looks like Magneto. I remember Technology two thousand 29 00:01:34,164 --> 00:01:37,324 Speaker 2: and seven. Man man Steve Jobs goes up on stage. 30 00:01:37,324 --> 00:01:39,884 Speaker 2: He's got a phone that doesn't have a stylist. You 31 00:01:39,884 --> 00:01:42,124 Speaker 2: can just scroll it. And I remember thinking, this is 32 00:01:42,164 --> 00:01:46,484 Speaker 2: going to change our lives forever. That Sonny Styles elevating 33 00:01:47,124 --> 00:01:51,204 Speaker 2: fifty feet off the ground with the forty three to 34 00:01:51,204 --> 00:01:53,804 Speaker 2: five vertical. And then also Sonny Styles. 35 00:01:53,444 --> 00:01:55,804 Speaker 3: You're like, you're thinking, is this this guy's name? 36 00:01:55,964 --> 00:01:58,404 Speaker 2: Sonny's no, no, no, no, no, lest you don't know. His 37 00:01:58,524 --> 00:02:01,644 Speaker 2: name is alexeg Why is it called Sonny? Just in 38 00:02:01,644 --> 00:02:05,844 Speaker 2: case this guy couldn't be cooler? Sonny comes from Sonny 39 00:02:05,844 --> 00:02:09,044 Speaker 2: Coleone from The Godfather, which his father started calling him 40 00:02:09,044 --> 00:02:13,284 Speaker 2: because Alex had a temperament like Sonny Coleone, Sunny Coleona, 41 00:02:13,364 --> 00:02:17,404 Speaker 2: James con Character, Brian's song, Brian Piccolo, all of that. 42 00:02:17,844 --> 00:02:19,124 Speaker 3: This is the perfect specimen. 43 00:02:19,164 --> 00:02:21,284 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you something else, The best maybe yet 44 00:02:21,364 --> 00:02:24,564 Speaker 2: to come, my friends, because guess what Sony is doing today. 45 00:02:24,924 --> 00:02:28,644 Speaker 2: He's doing the bench press test, and where is he 46 00:02:28,684 --> 00:02:30,884 Speaker 2: gonna throw this thing other than through the roof of 47 00:02:30,964 --> 00:02:33,884 Speaker 2: Lucas oil. I'll just remind you right now, the all 48 00:02:33,964 --> 00:02:38,084 Speaker 2: time record for the bench press test is fifty one reps, 49 00:02:38,404 --> 00:02:41,684 Speaker 2: set in nineteen ninety nine. I think I think Sonny's 50 00:02:41,684 --> 00:02:44,724 Speaker 2: gonna break fifty one reps. And you know what's gonna happen, man, tityo. 51 00:02:45,244 --> 00:02:48,364 Speaker 2: They're gonna pull back from a tight shot. And he 52 00:02:48,404 --> 00:02:51,804 Speaker 2: did it with three hundred and fifteen. It's not even 53 00:02:50,924 --> 00:02:53,844 Speaker 2: to five. He did it with three fifteen, and not 54 00:02:53,964 --> 00:02:56,564 Speaker 2: with these little styrofoam plates that I see going around 55 00:02:56,604 --> 00:02:59,084 Speaker 2: the internet right now, people doing three fifteen. I'm talking 56 00:02:59,124 --> 00:03:01,844 Speaker 2: about a real three point fifteen. This is the guy, 57 00:03:02,004 --> 00:03:06,924 Speaker 2: to quote Sonny Coleone himself. No more meetings, no more discussions. 58 00:03:06,924 --> 00:03:10,044 Speaker 2: You give them one message. I want sunny styles. It's 59 00:03:10,084 --> 00:03:12,124 Speaker 2: not it's all out war. We go to the mattresses. 60 00:03:12,364 --> 00:03:15,684 Speaker 2: I'm in love too. How could you not be? I 61 00:03:15,684 --> 00:03:18,924 Speaker 2: think this is what we do. Of course it's ridiculous. 62 00:03:19,204 --> 00:03:22,764 Speaker 3: We just did twenty minutes about vertical leaps and broad. 63 00:03:22,604 --> 00:03:25,564 Speaker 2: Jumps on sunny styles and how cool it is. But 64 00:03:25,604 --> 00:03:27,804 Speaker 2: then when we say the arms are too short, like, oh, 65 00:03:27,884 --> 00:03:29,124 Speaker 2: it doesn't matter, put on the tape. 66 00:03:29,124 --> 00:03:30,844 Speaker 3: This is what we do. It's just you know what 67 00:03:30,844 --> 00:03:33,284 Speaker 3: I mean. It's like we're a little bit both. 68 00:03:33,044 --> 00:03:36,764 Speaker 2: And like we've done hand size a million times with quarterbacks, 69 00:03:36,964 --> 00:03:37,924 Speaker 2: we've done arm length. 70 00:03:38,164 --> 00:03:38,924 Speaker 3: It's not ideal. 71 00:03:39,844 --> 00:03:43,084 Speaker 2: What the combine is about is about ideal situations, sunny styles. 72 00:03:43,124 --> 00:03:46,004 Speaker 2: It's all ideal. He jumps far, he jumps high. This 73 00:03:46,084 --> 00:03:48,124 Speaker 2: is not ideal. If you're a pass rusher and you're 74 00:03:48,124 --> 00:03:50,124 Speaker 2: trying to reach over those tackles to knock the ball 75 00:03:50,164 --> 00:03:52,964 Speaker 2: out and your hand comes up three inches short, of course, 76 00:03:53,004 --> 00:03:53,644 Speaker 2: it's not great. 77 00:03:53,724 --> 00:03:56,164 Speaker 3: But you know, we saw the Bengals last year. 78 00:03:56,324 --> 00:03:58,204 Speaker 2: They had a guy they like called Shamar Stewart and 79 00:03:58,244 --> 00:04:00,644 Speaker 2: everyone was like, then you have like one sack his 80 00:04:00,804 --> 00:04:02,844 Speaker 2: entire senior year, listen, whatever it was, and they're like, 81 00:04:03,004 --> 00:04:06,404 Speaker 2: we like them, we like his abilities. So someone will 82 00:04:06,444 --> 00:04:08,684 Speaker 2: love Reuben Bain. This is the fact that right now, 83 00:04:08,724 --> 00:04:10,564 Speaker 2: what the hell is the date? It is March or 84 00:04:10,644 --> 00:04:12,924 Speaker 2: February twenty seventh, and we talk about arm length. 85 00:04:13,244 --> 00:04:15,204 Speaker 3: If he had longer arms, yes, said be ideal. 86 00:04:15,324 --> 00:04:17,204 Speaker 2: But the fact that the tape is so good and 87 00:04:17,244 --> 00:04:19,324 Speaker 2: everything else is so good, Like this is not going 88 00:04:19,364 --> 00:04:21,524 Speaker 2: to be something that drops the guy three rounds. I 89 00:04:21,604 --> 00:04:23,484 Speaker 2: might even not even drop him three picks. He's still 90 00:04:23,524 --> 00:04:25,244 Speaker 2: going to go where he needs to go. It's just 91 00:04:25,284 --> 00:04:28,724 Speaker 2: what we do right now. I just can't believe that 92 00:04:28,764 --> 00:04:31,524 Speaker 2: he's going into his fourth year, like he's a veteran. 93 00:04:32,244 --> 00:04:35,324 Speaker 2: He's going into his fourth year. He is younger than 94 00:04:35,404 --> 00:04:39,804 Speaker 2: cam Ward. He is younger than Shador Sanders. He is 95 00:04:39,884 --> 00:04:43,924 Speaker 2: about seven months older than Fernando Mendoza, who has not 96 00:04:44,084 --> 00:04:47,204 Speaker 2: entered the league yet. Like, this is how young this 97 00:04:47,324 --> 00:04:49,324 Speaker 2: kid is. And it's like, and I even say kid, 98 00:04:49,324 --> 00:04:50,484 Speaker 2: and I don't apologize. 99 00:04:50,604 --> 00:04:52,364 Speaker 3: It's not his fault. He was drafted where he was. 100 00:04:52,444 --> 00:04:54,764 Speaker 3: It's not his fault that it hasn't worked out in Indianapolis. 101 00:04:55,204 --> 00:04:57,164 Speaker 2: I really believe that if you go back a few 102 00:04:57,244 --> 00:04:59,724 Speaker 2: years into the prism of this era of the NFL, 103 00:05:00,444 --> 00:05:03,124 Speaker 2: this is Pat Mahomes is dominating the league. The Chiefs 104 00:05:03,124 --> 00:05:05,684 Speaker 2: are doing anything they want. And I really think that 105 00:05:05,964 --> 00:05:07,444 Speaker 2: the Patrick Mahomes. 106 00:05:07,044 --> 00:05:09,004 Speaker 3: Draft pick by the Chiefs. 107 00:05:08,604 --> 00:05:10,484 Speaker 2: In the first round, who moved up to get this 108 00:05:11,084 --> 00:05:14,004 Speaker 2: wiley swashbuckler out of Texas Tech against a lot of 109 00:05:14,044 --> 00:05:17,524 Speaker 2: other people's opinions. I think it really changed how people 110 00:05:17,524 --> 00:05:20,524 Speaker 2: went after quarterbacks. I think it was people swinging out 111 00:05:20,564 --> 00:05:22,764 Speaker 2: of their shoes, trying to hit five hundred feet instead 112 00:05:22,764 --> 00:05:24,884 Speaker 2: of hitting into a double. I think you look at 113 00:05:24,884 --> 00:05:27,764 Speaker 2: the Niners move to get Trey Lance. They were trying 114 00:05:27,764 --> 00:05:30,804 Speaker 2: to find Patrick Mahomes with Trey Lance. The Colts were 115 00:05:30,844 --> 00:05:33,524 Speaker 2: trying to find some sort of player of mass destruction 116 00:05:33,564 --> 00:05:34,564 Speaker 2: with Anthony Richardson. 117 00:05:34,964 --> 00:05:36,364 Speaker 3: They saw all the red flags. 118 00:05:36,564 --> 00:05:39,084 Speaker 2: They saw how young he was, they saw how inexperienced 119 00:05:39,084 --> 00:05:42,124 Speaker 2: he was, they saw how few games he started in college, 120 00:05:42,684 --> 00:05:45,764 Speaker 2: and they're like, who cares. We have to do something nuts. 121 00:05:46,084 --> 00:05:48,284 Speaker 2: We have to do this guy who can do backflips 122 00:05:48,564 --> 00:05:52,364 Speaker 2: and is the best athlete at quarterback. Because the Chiefs 123 00:05:52,404 --> 00:05:54,524 Speaker 2: did it and they found Patrick Mahomes and they changed 124 00:05:54,524 --> 00:05:55,604 Speaker 2: the game of football forever. 125 00:05:55,724 --> 00:05:57,324 Speaker 3: So we need a player who's like that. 126 00:05:57,484 --> 00:05:59,004 Speaker 2: It's not going to be good enough for us to 127 00:05:59,044 --> 00:06:01,204 Speaker 2: get some pocket quarterback who looks pretty. 128 00:06:00,964 --> 00:06:02,964 Speaker 3: Good and we can build a run for a few years. 129 00:06:03,324 --> 00:06:05,924 Speaker 2: We need to find some nuclear And they went for 130 00:06:06,004 --> 00:06:08,844 Speaker 2: it and it completely didn't work out, and it was naive. 131 00:06:09,564 --> 00:06:11,604 Speaker 2: And I've seen other teams do it too. I mentioned 132 00:06:11,644 --> 00:06:13,724 Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan, I think did the same exact thing. So 133 00:06:14,404 --> 00:06:16,644 Speaker 2: I don't put any of this in Anthony Richardson. He 134 00:06:16,644 --> 00:06:19,084 Speaker 2: shouldn't have been drafted that high. He wasn't ready to 135 00:06:19,084 --> 00:06:21,604 Speaker 2: start when he did. It was all of these terrible 136 00:06:21,604 --> 00:06:23,724 Speaker 2: things and going to mismanaging a quarterback. And I look 137 00:06:23,764 --> 00:06:26,644 Speaker 2: at him now and I'm like, Anthony, just look for 138 00:06:26,684 --> 00:06:29,644 Speaker 2: the sideline. Look for the sideline, look for the bench. 139 00:06:29,764 --> 00:06:32,964 Speaker 2: Look for anything from what Sam Donald did in San 140 00:06:33,004 --> 00:06:36,324 Speaker 2: Francisco to what maybe Mac Jones did in San Francisco, 141 00:06:36,564 --> 00:06:37,564 Speaker 2: all of those things. 142 00:06:37,804 --> 00:06:38,164 Speaker 3: Do it. 143 00:06:38,524 --> 00:06:41,484 Speaker 2: Spend a year on the bench, spend three years on 144 00:06:41,564 --> 00:06:43,284 Speaker 2: the bench. You know, we spent a long time on 145 00:06:43,324 --> 00:06:46,084 Speaker 2: the bench. Gino Smith, we didn't hear from Gino Smith 146 00:06:46,084 --> 00:06:48,004 Speaker 2: for half a decade, and then he came out from 147 00:06:48,004 --> 00:06:50,004 Speaker 2: Seattle and it was their starter and played really, really 148 00:06:50,004 --> 00:06:50,684 Speaker 2: good football. 149 00:06:50,884 --> 00:06:52,084 Speaker 3: There are ways to do it. 150 00:06:52,244 --> 00:06:54,764 Speaker 2: There's so many things that were mismanaged about him, and 151 00:06:54,844 --> 00:06:57,044 Speaker 2: all Anthony Richardson did was say the right things and 152 00:06:57,084 --> 00:06:59,604 Speaker 2: absolutely dominate leading up to the draft and made the 153 00:06:59,604 --> 00:07:02,324 Speaker 2: Colts take him because they were trying to win a billion. 154 00:07:02,044 --> 00:07:03,964 Speaker 3: Dollars on a scratch off ticket. It's not the way 155 00:07:04,004 --> 00:07:11,684 Speaker 3: you do it. Mendoza over the middle byes got. 156 00:07:13,724 --> 00:07:19,084 Speaker 2: He's gotta ta men doz ding to touchdown. 157 00:07:22,884 --> 00:07:23,244 Speaker 3: All right. 158 00:07:23,284 --> 00:07:25,124 Speaker 2: So that's Vanda Mendoza. You've heard of him, you know 159 00:07:25,164 --> 00:07:27,484 Speaker 2: his name, and the quarterbacks will be center stage on 160 00:07:27,644 --> 00:07:28,884 Speaker 2: Saturday on the combine. 161 00:07:28,924 --> 00:07:30,844 Speaker 3: But this is Chad Reuger's. 162 00:07:30,444 --> 00:07:34,204 Speaker 2: Third round, Mack Banana, Mendoz in the first, Ty Simpson Alabama. 163 00:07:34,324 --> 00:07:39,204 Speaker 2: Then you're going down to late third round, seventy fifth, 164 00:07:39,244 --> 00:07:42,644 Speaker 2: seventy sixth, dro a large. So there's this sense that 165 00:07:42,724 --> 00:07:46,484 Speaker 2: there's Mendoza, maybe Simpson, and then everybody else. But there 166 00:07:46,604 --> 00:07:49,844 Speaker 2: is also a feeling guys over the years that there's 167 00:07:49,844 --> 00:07:52,204 Speaker 2: a handful of quarterbacks around this time the NFL and 168 00:07:52,244 --> 00:07:55,324 Speaker 2: the process we're going through the combine. They weren't considered 169 00:07:55,364 --> 00:07:57,004 Speaker 2: first round picks, and maybe he put up a full 170 00:07:57,044 --> 00:07:59,484 Speaker 2: screen like this. They weren't having a really cool number 171 00:07:59,484 --> 00:08:00,844 Speaker 2: in the next to them. But by the time the 172 00:08:00,924 --> 00:08:03,644 Speaker 2: draft day rolled around, they went in the first round. 173 00:08:03,884 --> 00:08:04,764 Speaker 3: Let's get right to it. 174 00:08:05,044 --> 00:08:08,364 Speaker 2: We know this guy's name, you've watched him. Jackson Dart. 175 00:08:08,524 --> 00:08:09,644 Speaker 2: There he is now. 176 00:08:09,724 --> 00:08:12,004 Speaker 3: During the combine, a lot. 177 00:08:11,804 --> 00:08:14,404 Speaker 2: Of the chatter about Jackson Dart second or third round guy. 178 00:08:15,044 --> 00:08:17,564 Speaker 2: He had a really good combine. He showed all the 179 00:08:17,604 --> 00:08:21,244 Speaker 2: important quote unquote arm talent. But here was the pre 180 00:08:21,364 --> 00:08:24,404 Speaker 2: draft analysis of Jackson Dart straight from NFL dot com. 181 00:08:24,684 --> 00:08:28,884 Speaker 2: Quote Dart likely requires a balance ball control passing attack 182 00:08:28,924 --> 00:08:30,124 Speaker 2: that allows him to manage the. 183 00:08:30,044 --> 00:08:32,604 Speaker 3: Game instead of driving it. He will need to work with. 184 00:08:32,644 --> 00:08:37,164 Speaker 2: Better anticipation and decisiveness to win in tight windows as 185 00:08:37,204 --> 00:08:37,564 Speaker 2: a pro. 186 00:08:38,524 --> 00:08:40,404 Speaker 3: Sounds fair to me. But we go to draft night. 187 00:08:41,204 --> 00:08:42,164 Speaker 3: There's the Giants. 188 00:08:42,204 --> 00:08:46,244 Speaker 2: They take them twenty fifth pick, massive, beautiful party. Look 189 00:08:46,244 --> 00:08:48,564 Speaker 2: at all those people, five twenty fifth pick in. 190 00:08:48,564 --> 00:08:49,204 Speaker 3: The first round. 191 00:08:49,444 --> 00:08:52,124 Speaker 2: And the quotes that night come from head coach Brian Dable. 192 00:08:52,724 --> 00:08:54,564 Speaker 3: Quote, I like the way he plays man. 193 00:08:54,604 --> 00:08:56,684 Speaker 2: I like his competitive fire, like his actress jil like 194 00:08:56,724 --> 00:08:59,044 Speaker 2: his ability to push the ball on field, his athletic 195 00:08:59,044 --> 00:09:00,884 Speaker 2: ability to run with the football. He's a leader, he 196 00:09:00,964 --> 00:09:01,484 Speaker 2: was smart. 197 00:09:01,604 --> 00:09:01,964 Speaker 3: He has the. 198 00:09:01,964 --> 00:09:03,924 Speaker 2: Attributes we were looking for, excited to have and look 199 00:09:03,964 --> 00:09:06,564 Speaker 2: forward to him in the room. Remember second or third 200 00:09:06,684 --> 00:09:09,004 Speaker 2: round grade and there he is going to the media 201 00:09:09,044 --> 00:09:10,364 Speaker 2: capitol world in the first round. 202 00:09:10,524 --> 00:09:12,404 Speaker 3: Let's go to another guy. This is one of the 203 00:09:12,484 --> 00:09:15,004 Speaker 3: all time draft shocks. Michael Pennix junior. 204 00:09:15,844 --> 00:09:21,084 Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a borderline first round guy, maybe more likely 205 00:09:21,124 --> 00:09:24,804 Speaker 2: a second round guy after this incredible college she's in 206 00:09:24,884 --> 00:09:27,524 Speaker 2: with Washington. He was electee and he just felt different. 207 00:09:27,604 --> 00:09:29,204 Speaker 2: He had a lot of intrigue about him. Here was 208 00:09:29,244 --> 00:09:32,804 Speaker 2: his NFL dot Com analysis. Plenty of arm, but needs 209 00:09:32,844 --> 00:09:35,324 Speaker 2: to work with more consistent timing between the numbers to 210 00:09:35,324 --> 00:09:37,444 Speaker 2: eliminate unnecessary contested throws. 211 00:09:37,724 --> 00:09:38,844 Speaker 3: He's a pocket passer. 212 00:09:39,044 --> 00:09:41,804 Speaker 2: He was ineffective in twenty twenty three when defenses were 213 00:09:41,844 --> 00:09:43,684 Speaker 2: able to crank up the heat and make him move 214 00:09:43,764 --> 00:09:44,404 Speaker 2: his feet. 215 00:09:44,924 --> 00:09:47,244 Speaker 3: Not a great endorsement, but you. 216 00:09:47,164 --> 00:09:51,324 Speaker 2: Know what, go to draft night the Falcons mister Blank 217 00:09:51,404 --> 00:09:53,444 Speaker 2: on the phone, who had just signed Kirk Cousins to 218 00:09:53,524 --> 00:09:55,604 Speaker 2: a four year, one hundred and eighty million dollars deal. 219 00:09:56,484 --> 00:10:02,164 Speaker 2: Take Michael Pennix eighth eighth in the draft in one 220 00:10:02,244 --> 00:10:05,444 Speaker 2: of the most shocking picks of in the twenty first century. 221 00:10:06,724 --> 00:10:09,524 Speaker 2: What do you do in Terry Fontineau then Falcons GM, 222 00:10:10,084 --> 00:10:14,404 Speaker 2: Terry fontah quote, these are not easy decisions, they're tough decisions. 223 00:10:14,724 --> 00:10:16,924 Speaker 2: But that's who we were thinking about. We were thinking 224 00:10:16,924 --> 00:10:19,764 Speaker 2: about the fans. We're thinking about this organization. We're gonna 225 00:10:19,764 --> 00:10:22,084 Speaker 2: build a sustained winner. We're gonna win for a long time. 226 00:10:22,644 --> 00:10:23,404 Speaker 2: That's the most. 227 00:10:23,204 --> 00:10:24,404 Speaker 3: Important position in football. 228 00:10:24,724 --> 00:10:27,924 Speaker 2: Again, maybe a second round pick up to number eight 229 00:10:28,004 --> 00:10:30,204 Speaker 2: to a team who had just committed a huge amount 230 00:10:30,204 --> 00:10:31,044 Speaker 2: of money to a veteran. 231 00:10:31,364 --> 00:10:32,004 Speaker 3: It was weird. 232 00:10:32,604 --> 00:10:35,564 Speaker 2: And then you get the all timer. Bring them up. 233 00:10:36,324 --> 00:10:45,084 Speaker 2: Timothy Richard Tebow. Timothy Richard Tebow was projected as there 234 00:10:45,124 --> 00:10:49,244 Speaker 2: he goes glorious. Maybe he gets into the second round, 235 00:10:49,524 --> 00:10:51,724 Speaker 2: third round. Well, the greatest college football players of all time, 236 00:10:51,764 --> 00:10:53,764 Speaker 2: one of the most respected athletes. 237 00:10:53,284 --> 00:10:53,884 Speaker 3: Of all time. 238 00:10:54,644 --> 00:10:58,284 Speaker 2: And the draft analysis quote he will need a lot 239 00:10:58,284 --> 00:11:01,084 Speaker 2: of retraining when he gets to an NFL camp as 240 00:11:01,124 --> 00:11:03,444 Speaker 2: he plays out of the shotgun formation and will need 241 00:11:03,484 --> 00:11:06,964 Speaker 2: a lot of work dropping from center and setting up 242 00:11:06,964 --> 00:11:07,724 Speaker 2: in the pockets. 243 00:11:07,764 --> 00:11:11,724 Speaker 3: He's been inconsistent. And then Draft night happens. 244 00:11:13,044 --> 00:11:14,604 Speaker 2: Does he go to the third round? Does he go 245 00:11:14,604 --> 00:11:17,604 Speaker 2: to the second round? Oh no, he went in the 246 00:11:17,644 --> 00:11:22,604 Speaker 2: first round. Josh McDaniel's Denver Broncos take him twenty five. 247 00:11:23,604 --> 00:11:25,724 Speaker 3: They wanted him, they had to have him. 248 00:11:25,964 --> 00:11:29,044 Speaker 2: There was this cult of personality that was just tour alluring, 249 00:11:29,404 --> 00:11:33,004 Speaker 2: and Josh McDaniel says, he has all the trade you're 250 00:11:33,084 --> 00:11:36,324 Speaker 2: looking for in terms of toughness, competitiveness, he's intelligent, he's 251 00:11:36,324 --> 00:11:38,284 Speaker 2: won a lot of games, he's a leader, he works. 252 00:11:38,044 --> 00:11:40,204 Speaker 3: Hard, He's got all the intangibles. 253 00:11:41,164 --> 00:11:43,084 Speaker 2: The problem was is that Tibo didn't really have any 254 00:11:43,084 --> 00:11:47,404 Speaker 2: of the tangible tangibles are really important, guys. As much 255 00:11:47,404 --> 00:11:50,924 Speaker 2: as we love intangibles, of course we had Tibou mania and. 256 00:11:50,844 --> 00:11:52,404 Speaker 3: He was a special, special thing. 257 00:11:53,044 --> 00:11:55,924 Speaker 2: And we're going deep to Eric Decker and eventually Peyton 258 00:11:55,924 --> 00:11:58,604 Speaker 2: Manning came and took his job. But remember t Bow 259 00:11:58,684 --> 00:12:00,964 Speaker 2: went first round, and at time of this tround in 260 00:12:01,004 --> 00:12:03,844 Speaker 2: the draft season, no one would have thought that. So 261 00:12:03,884 --> 00:12:06,204 Speaker 2: when you that there's Mendoza and then everybody else, just 262 00:12:06,244 --> 00:12:08,724 Speaker 2: remember the quarterbacks move you want another one, here's a legend, 263 00:12:09,844 --> 00:12:15,004 Speaker 2: Joe Flacco again, same story, Joe Flacco third round or 264 00:12:15,004 --> 00:12:16,964 Speaker 2: maybe you know if people fall in love with his 265 00:12:17,044 --> 00:12:21,044 Speaker 2: arm strength, second round out of Delaware. But the NFL 266 00:12:21,044 --> 00:12:24,244 Speaker 2: dot Com Draft concerns quote wasn't able to beat out 267 00:12:24,284 --> 00:12:28,004 Speaker 2: Tyler Palco at Pittsburgh and only became a starter because 268 00:12:28,044 --> 00:12:31,124 Speaker 2: he went to lower level Delaware where he was protected 269 00:12:31,164 --> 00:12:35,084 Speaker 2: by a running game, not scaring anybody with his leg speed. 270 00:12:35,644 --> 00:12:38,564 Speaker 3: Big arm can slide in the packet pocket that locks 271 00:12:38,564 --> 00:12:39,404 Speaker 3: into receivers. 272 00:12:39,644 --> 00:12:43,364 Speaker 2: All right, so Delaware, tall, slow guy who has a 273 00:12:43,404 --> 00:12:48,324 Speaker 2: massive arm, but I don't know. Eighteenth overall selection the 274 00:12:48,404 --> 00:12:50,884 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens, who have one of the best front offices 275 00:12:50,924 --> 00:12:51,484 Speaker 2: of all time. 276 00:12:51,884 --> 00:12:53,484 Speaker 3: They say, give us the kid. 277 00:12:53,324 --> 00:12:56,804 Speaker 2: From Delaware, not only in the first but early in 278 00:12:56,804 --> 00:12:59,964 Speaker 2: the first relatively nig first look at that six six 279 00:13:00,084 --> 00:13:02,484 Speaker 2: and a half two thirty six, The Ravens say, bring 280 00:13:02,604 --> 00:13:05,364 Speaker 2: him to us. Leads the raven to a Super Bowl 281 00:13:06,084 --> 00:13:08,204 Speaker 2: victory over the forty nine Ers, was named MVP. 282 00:13:08,804 --> 00:13:09,964 Speaker 3: Just made his first Pro Bowl. 283 00:13:10,004 --> 00:13:11,604 Speaker 2: By the way, in the Year of Our Lord twenty 284 00:13:11,644 --> 00:13:15,844 Speaker 2: twenty six, we were there eighteen seasons in the NFL. 285 00:13:15,964 --> 00:13:18,324 Speaker 2: Now here's another fascinating when this will be our last one? 286 00:13:18,444 --> 00:13:21,964 Speaker 2: Let me come back on camera for this quarterback out 287 00:13:21,964 --> 00:13:25,764 Speaker 2: of Michigan did not go to the nineteen eighty seven Combine. 288 00:13:26,324 --> 00:13:27,164 Speaker 3: Jim Harbaugh. 289 00:13:27,844 --> 00:13:30,484 Speaker 2: Mel Kiper, the og, the Godfather, who was still doing 290 00:13:30,484 --> 00:13:32,444 Speaker 2: it back then, predicted that Jim Harbaugh would be a 291 00:13:32,444 --> 00:13:34,164 Speaker 2: second round pick out of Michigan. 292 00:13:34,164 --> 00:13:36,164 Speaker 3: We was very successful. Well. 293 00:13:36,284 --> 00:13:39,564 Speaker 2: Jim Harbor ended up being, as you guessed, a first 294 00:13:39,644 --> 00:13:43,364 Speaker 2: round pick, twenty fifth overall by the Chicago Bears. The 295 00:13:43,484 --> 00:13:46,284 Speaker 2: crowd at the NFL Draft, which was then in New York, 296 00:13:46,324 --> 00:13:50,964 Speaker 2: as it was every single year, audibly gasped when Pete Rizzell, 297 00:13:51,084 --> 00:13:54,204 Speaker 2: the commissioner, announced that the Bears had chosen Jim Harbaugh 298 00:13:54,204 --> 00:13:58,244 Speaker 2: to Michigan. Paul Zimmerman, Doctor Z and Paul McGuire commentators 299 00:13:58,484 --> 00:14:02,324 Speaker 2: ESPN were just as surprised the Bears take Jim Harbaugh. 300 00:14:02,404 --> 00:14:04,284 Speaker 3: Zimmerman says, I'm stunned. 301 00:14:04,764 --> 00:14:08,804 Speaker 2: Maguire says, I'm mystified, and they're on record. 302 00:14:08,604 --> 00:14:12,844 Speaker 3: They cannot believe it. Who drafted them? Coach Mike Dicka, he. 303 00:14:12,804 --> 00:14:15,684 Speaker 2: Said the Bears were decided between Harball and a defensive lineman. 304 00:14:15,764 --> 00:14:19,124 Speaker 2: They picked the quarterback because of quote the long run picture. 305 00:14:19,724 --> 00:14:21,764 Speaker 3: Dicka said, over a period of time, we feel Jim 306 00:14:21,804 --> 00:14:24,364 Speaker 3: Harbaugh will produce. I don't know if it will be 307 00:14:24,444 --> 00:14:25,004 Speaker 3: this season. 308 00:14:25,484 --> 00:14:27,644 Speaker 2: We hope we can justify this pick. 309 00:14:28,204 --> 00:14:29,684 Speaker 3: Dickas said, the decision a draft. 310 00:14:29,684 --> 00:14:31,164 Speaker 2: Harbor, who of course went on to be with the 311 00:14:31,204 --> 00:14:34,444 Speaker 2: Colts years later and was excellent, had them one throw away. 312 00:14:34,284 --> 00:14:35,164 Speaker 3: From the Super Bowl. 313 00:14:36,244 --> 00:14:39,484 Speaker 2: Dicka said everyone from management to ownership, to personnel to 314 00:14:39,564 --> 00:14:42,884 Speaker 2: coaching decided he wanted to have Harbaugh throwing a Tom 315 00:14:42,884 --> 00:14:45,484 Speaker 2: Waddle and then also going on to the Chargers. Jim 316 00:14:45,484 --> 00:14:48,204 Speaker 2: Harbaugh was fourteen seasons as an NFL quarterback. Now he 317 00:14:48,284 --> 00:14:50,444 Speaker 2: did not work out for the Bears. My memory of 318 00:14:50,524 --> 00:14:52,684 Speaker 2: him on the Bears is screaming at Dick on the sideline. 319 00:14:52,724 --> 00:14:53,764 Speaker 3: Dick is screaming at him. 320 00:14:54,044 --> 00:14:57,244 Speaker 2: It was not a great selection, but again it was 321 00:14:57,284 --> 00:15:01,124 Speaker 2: a surprising selection. I want you to remember this right now, 322 00:15:01,284 --> 00:15:03,044 Speaker 2: on February twenty seventh, I. 323 00:15:03,004 --> 00:15:03,724 Speaker 3: Want you to remember this. 324 00:15:04,484 --> 00:15:06,884 Speaker 2: You're hearing Mendoza and then you know it's not a 325 00:15:06,924 --> 00:15:12,044 Speaker 2: big quarterback draft. The quarterbacks come, they happen, They come 326 00:15:12,124 --> 00:15:15,124 Speaker 2: up the draft boards, they show up earlier than they suspect. 327 00:15:15,244 --> 00:15:18,044 Speaker 2: There is a thirst and there's an infatuation with that 328 00:15:18,124 --> 00:15:21,524 Speaker 2: position that makes things happen, like the Pittsburgh Steelers taking 329 00:15:21,604 --> 00:15:25,004 Speaker 2: Kenny Pickett in the first round. If you're thinking right now, 330 00:15:25,044 --> 00:15:27,284 Speaker 2: it's gonna be Mendoza and that could be it. Maybe 331 00:15:27,324 --> 00:15:30,564 Speaker 2: two quarterbacks in the first round. Pay attention. Look at history, 332 00:15:30,604 --> 00:15:32,724 Speaker 2: look at distant history, look at recent history. 333 00:15:33,044 --> 00:15:35,684 Speaker 3: The quarterbacks come run in. 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