Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe, Ketty.
Speaker 2: Arm Strong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Hetty.
Speaker 3: Are you saying that Americans could see empty store shelves?
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they
Speaker 1: don't need to have thirty dollars. They can have three.
Speaker 1: They don't need to have two hundred and fifty pencils,
Speaker 1: they can have five.
Speaker 2: That's the odd political messaging.
Speaker 4: It is the you have too many pencils message. Like
Speaker 4: we said earlier, come on, be honest with yourself. If
Speaker 4: Barack Obama or Joe Biden had lectured you you have
Speaker 4: too many pencils, your kids have too many toys, how
Speaker 4: would you have liked that? I just I don't understand
Speaker 4: why he's going with that angle. If he wants to
Speaker 4: go at the angle that we're in a tariff for,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be painful for a while. Things could be
Speaker 4: more expensive, shelves might be a little bear, but it'll
Speaker 4: turn around. We just need to stick it out. I
Speaker 4: think he'd be in much better shape than you have
Speaker 4: too many pencils?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, Or if he'd even let's put putting aside
Speaker 2: the oddness of using pencils of toys instead of all
Speaker 2: saying the reason your kids have so many toys and
Speaker 2: they're so cheap is because we've been doing these unfair
Speaker 2: trade deals with China and they're getting rich and we're
Speaker 2: flooded with cheap goods, which has been kind of cool.
Speaker 2: But we can't give away America's manufacturing base. So yeah,
Speaker 2: things are gonna be a little more expensive, but we're
Speaker 2: not gonna be enriching the communist Chinese. I would be
Speaker 2: happy to be a spokesman. I mean, I think that
Speaker 2: have been really effective messaging.
Speaker 4: Yeah, a little Johnny with his two hundred and fifty pencils,
Speaker 4: you spoiled brat.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he like writes one word and throws
Speaker 2: each pencil away. He's so pencil rich.
Speaker 4: By the way, it's the Department of Homeland Security that
Speaker 4: will pay for booting out the illegals. That's this is
Speaker 4: breaking news. We had last hour, thousand dollars stipend to
Speaker 4: illegals who self deport plane tickets and one thousand dollars,
Speaker 4: so we'll fly you out, give you a thousand bucks.
Speaker 2: Just get get upgrade to first class, get a meal,
Speaker 2: you're way back to wherever you're going. See if this
Speaker 2: actually happens or how well it works.
Speaker 4: He also late in the day said he's going to
Speaker 4: reopen Alcatraz for the illegals.
Speaker 2: So and announced a teriff via truth Social on movies
Speaker 2: that are made outside of the US. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what that means exactly, tariff on foreign made movies. This.
Speaker 2: You know, Look, there's a lot of stuff he's doing.
Speaker 2: This great restructuring trade deals, fine, especially with China, absolutely necessary,
Speaker 2: got it, But one guy being able to just announce
Speaker 2: this sort of thing or call it off or say
Speaker 2: he was kidding it. There's gonna be a Democrat in
Speaker 2: the White House. We don't want him doing this.
Speaker 4: Man, people too chaotic, people still jump at the bait.
Speaker 4: So like the whole Alcatraz thing, I thought it was interesting.
Speaker 4: I was watching a bunch of news coverage this morning.
Speaker 4: Everybody took the Alcatraz thing one hundred percent seriously, talked
Speaker 4: about how difficult it would be to do, and maybe
Speaker 4: it's not legal and everything. I watched Fox and Friends
Speaker 4: and they said, of course he's not going to do that.
Speaker 4: What he's just trying to I mean they dismissed it
Speaker 4: that quickly. Yeah, they didn't even not even another breath
Speaker 4: about it. He's just trying to draw attention to the
Speaker 4: courts trying to stop him from booting out illegals. So
Speaker 4: it's the whole to take him seriously or literally. Thing
Speaker 4: continues to be a thing, and the same thing on
Speaker 4: the third term situation, Trump running for a third term, Well,
Speaker 4: let's play the clip. He did meet the press for
Speaker 4: the third time in one hundred and five days. Trump
Speaker 4: did meet the press, Yes, which is beautiful transparency.
Speaker 2: I mean, we ought to require that not meet the
Speaker 2: press necessarily because Kristen Welker is obnoxious. But the idea
Speaker 2: that a president subjects himself to questioning by a hostile
Speaker 2: source repeatedly, that ought to be a model going forward.
Speaker 2: It's fantastic. I feel like this is trolling, but we'll
Speaker 2: discuss that afterwards.
Speaker 3: The Trump organization is selling hats that say Trump twenty
Speaker 3: twenty eight. Yeah, are you seriously considering a third term,
Speaker 3: mister president, even though it's prohibited by the constitution? Or
Speaker 3: is this about staying politically viable.
Speaker 1: I will say this, so many people want me to
Speaker 1: do it. I have never had requests so strong as that.
Speaker 1: But it's something that, to the best of my knowledge,
Speaker 1: you're not allowed to do. I don't know if that's constitutional,
Speaker 1: that they're not allowing you to do it or anything else.
Speaker 1: But there are many people selling the twenty twenty eight hat.
Speaker 2: But this is not something I'm looking to do.
Speaker 1: I'm looking to have four great years and turn it
Speaker 1: over to somebody, ideally a great Republican, a great Republican
Speaker 1: to carry it forward. But I think we're gonna have
Speaker 1: four years, and I think four years there's plenty of
Speaker 1: time to do something really spectacular.
Speaker 2: And then he lays out were the headlines in the
Speaker 2: New York Times. Trump says, no, I'm cool for one
Speaker 2: Term's fine.
Speaker 4: Well, he got another news cycle out of it, Like,
Speaker 4: so it's a tough one, you gotta admit.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's a tough one.
Speaker 4: Mark Alpernoi's writes in his newsletter that Trump is the
Speaker 4: most difficult person to cover in the history of journalism
Speaker 4: because he does jerk people around control. So what are
Speaker 4: you supposed to do if the sitting president says I'm
Speaker 4: going to run for a third term, are you supposed
Speaker 4: to say no, you're not and ignore it.
Speaker 2: That doesn't really make sense. You're right, you're right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean if Reagan or Obama or whoever had said it,
Speaker 4: of course you gotta make that the first question the
Speaker 4: next time you get to ask him anything. But with Trump,
Speaker 4: I feel like you gotta just ignore it and move on.
Speaker 2: Ask about the Terra War reminds me of when my
Speaker 2: kids were kid and I would make It was a
Speaker 2: game we played over and over again. I would make
Speaker 2: some extraordinary and ludicrous claim about, you know, something I'd
Speaker 2: done in my life or was gonna do whatever, and
Speaker 2: they'd say, Dad, and I say no, no, really, and
Speaker 2: they would grill me about it and try to catch
Speaker 2: me in the lie and whatever. And it was always
Speaker 2: fun and it was probably good for their minds, honestly.
Speaker 2: But Trump is doing that. Yeah, I might be running
Speaker 2: for a third term. Well it's unconstitutional, you can't. You
Speaker 2: can't do that, Or you say you're well that don't
Speaker 2: many people want me to dad, Dad, you can't run
Speaker 2: for a third term. I don't know. I'm looking into it.
Speaker 4: I just he's teasing, obviously to my mind, But again,
Speaker 4: what are you supposed to do? Ignore the sitting president
Speaker 4: saying you're going to defy the Constitution and run for
Speaker 4: a third.
Speaker 2: Term, right, and he's gonna move the Oval Office to Alcatraz. Okay,
Speaker 2: whatever can be stuck with this.
Speaker 4: The fact that they actually have the twenty twenty eight
Speaker 4: hats on his website.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's it's a troll.
Speaker 4: It's just I mean, the day four of trolling, the
Speaker 4: whole I'm gonna be Pope thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he keeps saying.
Speaker 4: Or his own site, they truthed out that AI image
Speaker 4: of him is the pope.
Speaker 2: You know. Back in the day, my daughter, when she
Speaker 2: was doing an internship, her her gig was to go
Speaker 2: through many, many, many news sources and find out which
Speaker 2: of that firm's clients were being mentioned in news accounts
Speaker 2: and in what ways. So that sort of thing exists.
Speaker 2: If I'm, you know, maga media guy, I'm checking to
Speaker 2: see how many places are talking about the Trump twenty
Speaker 2: twenty eight hats and how many people are talking about
Speaker 2: a third term the rest of it. And I'd say, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're still getting a fair amount of heat from this,
Speaker 2: and say, okay, put out a new edition of the hat.
Speaker 2: What the heck, let's keep the boiler going.
Speaker 4: So he does, that gets a lot of coverage, mentions
Speaker 4: Alcatraze gets a lot of coverage. And I wonder if
Speaker 4: that wasn't coordinated with Israel's announcement that they're going to
Speaker 4: go in and take over Gaza, because that would be
Speaker 4: the lead story. If it weren't for the couple of
Speaker 4: Trump big things that he popped off yesterday, that might
Speaker 4: absolutely be a coordinated effort.
Speaker 2: You know that. I would love to know that, just
Speaker 2: not because it like matters to the future of the Republic,
Speaker 2: but I would just like to know strategy wise, how
Speaker 2: they how they look at that sort of thing. I mean,
Speaker 2: that makes sense because this is a huge move by Israel.
Speaker 2: They've approved a plan to occupy Gaza and control aid
Speaker 2: distribution because the problem is and and look, there are
Speaker 2: people who need food in Gaza, no doubt, but when
Speaker 2: they allow aid in, it feeds and and and finance
Speaker 2: is Hamas who is At this point, there's small an enemy,
Speaker 2: and there's no damn two state solution coming down the pike,
Speaker 2: and there's not gonna be. And so they're trying to
Speaker 2: figure out, all right, how do we ensure our security
Speaker 2: and get these people fed without enriching Hamas, and they're
Speaker 2: essentially going to occupy the place and run it themselves.
Speaker 2: I was looking at some of the mainstream media coverage
Speaker 2: of it earlier today and the New York Times. It
Speaker 2: was funny. I don't know if this is intentional, just
Speaker 2: a quirk of the website, but I would look at
Speaker 2: the website and they had the videos. You don't need
Speaker 2: to click on them. They're just running like on the
Speaker 2: front page, as it were, of kids in Gaza clamoring
Speaker 2: for food. They'd go from site to site to site
Speaker 2: with kids holding their pans out begging for food, and
Speaker 2: every article I would read, it would bring me back
Speaker 2: to that video on the main page. No matter where
Speaker 2: I departed, like the main website from, it always brought
Speaker 2: me back to that video. And I wonder if that's
Speaker 2: intentional or not. But as I was watching it, it
Speaker 2: struck me that this is if Hamas had filmed this,
Speaker 2: I had a plan for ratcheting up sympathy for us
Speaker 2: and anger toward the damn Jews. They'd handle it exactly
Speaker 2: the way the New York Times did, right. I mean,
Speaker 2: it was like from central casting and as an after
Speaker 2: thought in the story, they throw in. By the way,
Speaker 2: Israel says, you know, everything be cool if they let
Speaker 2: the hostage. If I'm also let the hostages go. But anyway,
Speaker 2: in other news like no, no, no, wait a second,
Speaker 2: I got time, I got a minute. Let's talk about
Speaker 2: the hostages. Let's talk about why they're still being held.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about how many of them were killed while hostages.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about how many of them might still be alive.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and talk about that. Don't just tack
Speaker 2: that on in paragraphs seventeen and move on like it's
Speaker 2: an afterthought.
Speaker 4: Come on, Oh, one more thing about the whole pope delio,
Speaker 4: So the conclave starts.
Speaker 2: I guess I did this.
Speaker 4: Had the story from Kim Commando last week about the
Speaker 4: just unbelievable over the top.
Speaker 2: Security that they've got there.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's really impressive censors and and signal jammers
Speaker 4: and everything like that to make sure this stays secret.
Speaker 2: Somebody rohans and lead curtains.
Speaker 4: Yes, crazy, somebody texted and I think very appropriately, it'd
Speaker 4: have been nice if they to put anywhere close to
Speaker 4: this kind of effort into stopping priests from raping kids
Speaker 4: over and over again for decades and lying about it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean I've been moving the priests around. I am
Speaker 4: pro Catholic church on all and all kinds of different things.
Speaker 4: But that is just unconscionable, and they haven't even come
Speaker 4: close to owning that, in my opinion. I mean, that's
Speaker 4: a really good point. Boy, we wouldn't want it to
Speaker 4: leak out ten minutes early who the pope is. But w'
Speaker 4: move around a pedophile priest and hide it from you
Speaker 4: and look you in the face and say your kids
Speaker 4: safe here at our church.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's rough, man, That is rough. Power corrupts and
Speaker 2: bureaucracies protect themselves. It's all you have to know. And
Speaker 2: just be on the guard against that. Always. Don't be
Speaker 2: a naive sap no matter how you know auspicious an
Speaker 2: organization ought to be. Power corrupts and bureaucracies protect themselves. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at the cost of children's souls. It's despicable. Oh, on
Speaker 2: a much lighter note than that, lighter than childbread. Okay, yes, yes, considerably.
Speaker 2: Evidently everybody involved in the Conclave has actually seen the
Speaker 2: movie Conclave or is very very aware of it, and
Speaker 2: they talk about it all the time. Oh really, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen it. I should. Yeah, Oscar Winner. I can't
Speaker 2: remember what Oscar, but it's supposed to be really really good.
Speaker 2: Brutal politics and who gets to be Pope?
Speaker 4: Speaking of movies, I watched two movies over the weekend
Speaker 4: in my dB and one in the theater that I
Speaker 4: would like to talk to dB my death bed, ah,
Speaker 4: because I am. I think I'm not long for this world.
Speaker 4: Have been sick for a month now you'll be missed.
Speaker 4: I'm a weak weak man. But that and other stuff
Speaker 4: on the way state here.
Speaker 2: Next is a pardon for author JK.
Speaker 4: Rowling Jackie Kaki Rally without Jackie, you know, she created
Speaker 4: a whole wizarding world, a wonderful.
Speaker 2: Place for overweight.
Speaker 5: Millennials to stake their entire identity.
Speaker 2: Well past the point of it being cute. I'm a hufflepuff. No,
Speaker 2: you work in staples. Let's keep it moving, let's go.
Speaker 2: It's a little, a little uncomfortable. Uh yeah, but a
Speaker 2: good point, well well past the point of being cute.
Speaker 4: I like to one of the cast members, and they
Speaker 4: got a great cast now in sn L. But one
Speaker 4: of the cast members did his thing during the news
Speaker 4: bit about how he's not going to get the real idea.
Speaker 4: I'm just not doing it. And I got in all
Speaker 4: the paperwork this finally this weekend, submitted and I have
Speaker 4: an appointment, so I'm not going to get it by
Speaker 4: May seventh, but I'm not flying.
Speaker 2: Yet, so right well, speaking of JK. Rowling, interestingly enough,
Speaker 2: I just saw she tweeted this article that Scotland's top
Speaker 2: social worker is accusing the bosses of that agency of
Speaker 2: causing quote untold harm by abandoning child protection principles so
Speaker 2: they didn't have to stand up against the radical gender ideology.
Speaker 2: She's coming out and proud now and saying we have
Speaker 2: sacrificed children of this bizarre ideology. More on that another time,
Speaker 2: but speaking of Trump, and we were talking about is
Speaker 2: an interview with Kristen Welker, and you know, the will
Speaker 2: you follow the Constitution stuff we talked about at fair
Speaker 2: length in hour two the beginning of our two. Not
Speaker 2: to repeat ourselves, but she was trying to trap him
Speaker 2: and he could have answered the question a little better.
Speaker 2: But the question of will you follow the constitution? Give
Speaker 2: all these people a fair hearing, blah blah blah because
Speaker 2: of due process. I was just helping my daughter study
Speaker 2: for her constitutional law final in law school, and the
Speaker 2: question of who gets due process in what way and
Speaker 2: what the process is and blah blah blah. That's the
Speaker 2: stuff lawyers argue about unendingly. So the idea like it's
Speaker 2: a yes or no question. He answered wrong, just dishonest.
Speaker 2: He knew she was trying to trap him. He was
Speaker 2: evasive when he didn't need to be. But anyway, and
Speaker 2: the other thing we referred to a couple of times,
Speaker 2: kind of vaguely, is Howard Lutnick's piece. Is it Lutnik
Speaker 2: or Besant? Besant in the Wall Street Journal? I said
Speaker 2: Lutnik earlier. I apologize, But he was talking about Trump's
Speaker 2: three steps to economic growth, and the first is renegotiating
Speaker 2: global trade. I'm quoting. Now, Tariffs are an effective tool
Speaker 2: for balancing international commerce. They reduce trade barriers in other countries. No,
Speaker 2: they don't, unless you mean they cause other countries to
Speaker 2: go ahead and lower them themselves in return for US
Speaker 2: lowering ours again opening more markets to American producers, while
Speaker 2: also bringing back thousands of manufacturing jobs. So that would
Speaker 2: suggest that a lot of the tariff stuff is just
Speaker 2: it's bluster, its threats saying, look, you got to come
Speaker 2: to the table and do better, or we're going to
Speaker 2: tear a few. But it's not a permanent plan. It's
Speaker 2: not a long term plan. And he talked about COVID
Speaker 2: exposing vulnerabilities and the supply chain and the risk of
Speaker 2: relying on other countries for critical stuff. Absolutely true. And
Speaker 2: then he actually gets into making the twenty seventeen Tax
Speaker 2: Cut and Jobs Act permanent, which I appreciate. Great Idea,
Speaker 2: goes into no tax on tips, overtime, social Security, some
Speaker 2: of which strike me as somewhat wacky. Then he goes
Speaker 2: hard at and I wish this had been, you know,
Speaker 2: more of a priority sooner. But I also need to
Speaker 2: remind myself it's only May of year one of the
Speaker 2: term deregulating the economy, rewakening our industrial capacity and raising
Speaker 2: employment and wages through decreasing the horrific burden a red
Speaker 2: tape on American industry that I love.
Speaker 4: Great Idea saw eighty percent of Americans want the Trump
Speaker 4: tax cuts to be renewed. Eighty percent of the rich
Speaker 4: jack the rich want that. That's what I hear. It's
Speaker 4: the rich, and that must not be the way most
Speaker 4: Americans interpreted those tax cuts, even though mainstream media told
Speaker 4: them every day it was just a you know, a
Speaker 4: sop to the ridge.
Speaker 2: Well, they saw it on their w two eighty percent
Speaker 2: are strong and getty.
Speaker 6: We have no reliable heroes, and yet we still need protection.
Speaker 6: Witness Convincible, stronger than all of the Avengers rolled into one,
Speaker 6: and soon to be known as Earth's mightiest hero.
Speaker 2: Why would a god take orders from anyone at all?
Speaker 2: Maybe I need to show you what I'm capable of.
Speaker 2: Country's gone off the rails and he's dangerous. The Avengers,
Speaker 2: you're gone. No one is coming to save today. Be
Speaker 2: the people that are coming wait us? Yeah? Are you why?
Speaker 2: You got someplace to be? I love that guy.
Speaker 4: So that's the New Avengers and the New Avengers. It's
Speaker 4: called Thunderbolts. I watched it on Friday night with my son.
Speaker 4: Thought it was absolutely fantastic. I know a lot of
Speaker 4: you don't watch Marvel movies unless you've gone with your kids.
Speaker 4: That's how I ended up into it. I'd never seen
Speaker 4: one in my life. I remember old producer Sean would
Speaker 4: come in and say that there's a new Captain America
Speaker 4: this weekend. I think, dude, what are you doing going
Speaker 4: to Captain America. You're thirty eight years old.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 4: I had never seen any the movies, but my kids
Speaker 4: liked him, and some of them are really good. Many
Speaker 4: of them are horrible. Went to Captain America like a
Speaker 4: month ago as one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: It was just so freaking stupid. They've trailed off badly
Speaker 4: last couple of years. Boy, the critics who are saying
Speaker 4: It's reinvented itself with this one, they're absolutely right.
Speaker 2: Thunderbolts.
Speaker 4: And the only reason I bring it up, really is
Speaker 4: I thought it was It's basically the if you're a
Speaker 4: film buff, seven Samurai or the American version, the Magnificent Seven.
Speaker 4: It's a group of people who, you know, they wish
Speaker 4: they hadn't made the decisions they made in their lives,
Speaker 4: and they find themselves, you know, not feeling so great
Speaker 4: about themselves, are feeling pointless, and they decide, hey, helping
Speaker 4: other people and doing the right thing feels really good
Speaker 4: and working together as opposed to alone. And I thought
Speaker 4: it was a fantastic theme all the way around. And
Speaker 4: then the bad guy and figure it's also hilarious. It's
Speaker 4: by far the funniest Marvel movie. But I mean freaking
Speaker 4: hilarious all the way through. Just I laughed so hard.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see it again because I missed a
Speaker 4: lot of the jokes. They came so fast. None of
Speaker 4: us can fly. All we do is punch and shoot.
Speaker 2: What is this.
Speaker 4: But the guy who suffered from depression, who became the
Speaker 4: bad guy? Briefly, my son whispered to me during the movie,
Speaker 4: he said, this is the best version of depression I've
Speaker 4: ever seen in any TV show where movie, which I
Speaker 4: thought was really something, And we talked about that a
Speaker 4: lot afterwards.
Speaker 2: So maybe that would strike your fancy. Just that the
Speaker 2: way to portray that does not sound like mindless, idiotic
Speaker 2: people punching each other entertainment.
Speaker 4: Such a different theme way, more adult relationship themes, not
Speaker 4: like in a sexy way or anything like that, just
Speaker 4: like adult themes of you know, a parent and kid
Speaker 4: and working all that out and depression and stuff like that.
Speaker 4: I thought it was fantastic. At the end of the movie.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever I think I've done
Speaker 4: this one other time in my life. A bunch of
Speaker 4: us just spontaneously clapped. I've never clapped at a movie
Speaker 4: I don't think before my life and I clapped at
Speaker 4: a Marvel movie.
Speaker 2: I thought it was that good. But so that's enough
Speaker 2: of that. You'll either see it or you won't.
Speaker 4: But the other movie that I watched over the weekend
Speaker 4: in my deathbed, sick, and I don't remember what turned
Speaker 4: me on to it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I know what.
Speaker 4: I was listening to the National Review podcast that I
Speaker 4: do every week, and Charles c to be a Cook,
Speaker 4: who I love, said, if you've never seen The Bunker
Speaker 4: with Anthony Hopkins from nineteen eighty two, it's the best
Speaker 4: of those kind of movies ever made. And I had
Speaker 4: never seen it. And so we're a lot of this
Speaker 4: stuff is playing right now.
Speaker 2: The Bunkers about Carol O'Connor and Maureen Stapleton making all
Speaker 2: in the family right, they closed the bar and it's
Speaker 2: the end of the show.
Speaker 4: No, we're on the eightieth anniversary right now of the
Speaker 4: fall of Berlin and the end of World War Two
Speaker 4: in Europe, so they're rerunning all kinds of World War
Speaker 4: two movies and that sort of stuff, including this one
Speaker 4: The Bunker, which everybody keeps asking me, where did you
Speaker 4: watch it? I watched it on YouTube and unimpen anything
Speaker 4: for it.
Speaker 2: It was there.
Speaker 4: I don't know how this movie slipped by without being
Speaker 4: like a movie that people talk about all the time.
Speaker 4: It must have been one of those deals where it
Speaker 4: came out the same year as something else, or there
Speaker 4: were a whole bunch of World War two movies that
Speaker 4: it got buried. But Anthony Hopkins should have absolutely won
Speaker 4: an Oscar for this. It's the best portrayal of Hitler
Speaker 4: I've ever seen. His having the mannerisms of Hitler unreal,
Speaker 4: the amount of study he must have put into that.
Speaker 2: It's in English.
Speaker 4: I like that, so they do, you know, English with
Speaker 4: a German accent, which is kind of silly but also
Speaker 4: much easier to deal with than having actual German. And
Speaker 4: I read the subtitles. Sure yeah, but when he would
Speaker 4: lose his s he looked just like all those black
Speaker 4: and white films you've ever seen of Hitler, waving his
Speaker 4: arms around and jerking his head around and everything like that.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 4: The main takeaway though, even though I knew this stuff,
Speaker 4: and I know everybody listening right now, if you're a dude,
Speaker 4: you probably are into World War Two and you've probably
Speaker 4: watched or read more about World War Two than anybody
Speaker 4: needs to, so none of this is new news to you.
Speaker 2: As John Mlaney said, everybody's dad seems to be studying
Speaker 2: for some World War II exam that's coming down the line.
Speaker 2: And this is just like the final week in the Bunker.
Speaker 4: And even though I knew all this stuff, I'd never
Speaker 4: seen it portrayed in such a way of how crazy
Speaker 4: that was, And a lot of it reminded me of
Speaker 4: today's weird cult of personality and people too smart for
Speaker 4: their own good who are insane and don't even know it.
Speaker 2: That last week or so, the commitment to.
Speaker 4: Hitler, even though it was over, the Russians were closing
Speaker 4: in from one side, the Brits and the Americans were
Speaker 4: closing in from the other side.
Speaker 2: It was inevitable.
Speaker 4: Everybody knew it, but they stuck with the plan and
Speaker 4: kept listening to this ranting madman who was just crazy,
Speaker 4: and some of them to the point of, like Gebels,
Speaker 4: he should be well known, more well known than he is.
Speaker 4: He had a and this fits in with so much
Speaker 4: what we see today. He had a PhD in literature
Speaker 4: and history, very very smart guy. When he he had
Speaker 4: like an insanely high q IQ or whatever. But he
Speaker 4: bought all that crap up until the moment that he
Speaker 4: and his wife murdered their six kids and then themselves.
Speaker 4: He had a chance to get out. He and his
Speaker 4: wife had a plan together. He called up his wife
Speaker 4: and said, I think now's the time she was out
Speaker 4: tied to Berlin, someone safe with their six beautiful little kids.
Speaker 4: She got the kids to the bunkers so they could
Speaker 4: kill them together, because they were that committed to their kids.
Speaker 2: Shouldn't have to live.
Speaker 4: In a world where Hitler isn't around, I mean, just
Speaker 4: not job stuff, and a whole bunch of people buying
Speaker 4: into that ideology. It's like the sort of thing we
Speaker 4: see now, the way this mania that makes no sense
Speaker 4: can spread to other intelligent people. It's just you just
Speaker 4: got to accept it as a fact the life that
Speaker 4: human beings are capable of it.
Speaker 2: And as I'm always saying, intelligence and wisdom are they
Speaker 2: they're you know, sometimes they go together, sometimes they do
Speaker 2: not at all, And sometimes ideology divorces intelligence from wisdom.
Speaker 2: You use your intelligence toward bizarre and you know, after
Speaker 2: the storm passes ends that you can't even describe why
Speaker 2: it seems like such a good idea at the time.
Speaker 2: It's madness, it really is. Yeah, that's that's crazy. By
Speaker 2: the way, as I'm clicking around while you're talking. It
Speaker 2: was a made for TV movie in nineteen eighty one.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Anthony Hopkins won the Emmyable It is
Speaker 2: so good.
Speaker 4: And yeah, I'm aware of the other Bunker movie. I
Speaker 4: watched that one too, and raved about it when I
Speaker 4: watch it. That's the one that all the memes come from.
Speaker 4: Also a very very good movie. But man, Anthony Hopkins
Speaker 4: Hitler is something else. How human beings can get so
Speaker 4: far down the road of an ideology and stick with
Speaker 4: it in the face of all data coming at you.
Speaker 4: Yeah that it isn't working or it isn't right or whatever.
Speaker 4: It's just we should all be disturbed by this because
Speaker 4: we apparently we're all capable of this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It occurs to me that as we learn more
Speaker 2: and more about the function the human brain, and they
Speaker 2: can put the sensors on and what was the study
Speaker 2: we talked about a couple of weeks ago. It was
Speaker 2: quite extraordinary. They could tell one feeling from another that
Speaker 2: were very, very subtly different. I can't remember the specifics,
Speaker 2: but the sophistication of that thing is increasing. I can
Speaker 2: picture at some point them doing a brain scan and saying, oh,
Speaker 2: he has his ideological madness center going. You can point
Speaker 2: out any facts you want. He won't process them. He'll
Speaker 2: deny the validity of anything that goes against his current ideology.
Speaker 2: And whether there'll be a medication or a beating or
Speaker 2: I don't know, some sort of detox program, you will realize, oh,
Speaker 2: that twenty one year old women's studies major cannot be
Speaker 2: reasoned with at this point. So there's no point in
Speaker 2: even trying. We need to do this instead.
Speaker 4: So that last week or so in the bunker is
Speaker 4: one of the more insane things that's ever happened in
Speaker 4: world history. I mean, when Ava Braun, his girlfriend at
Speaker 4: the time, moves all her stuff in.
Speaker 2: I mean, and this isn't the last days.
Speaker 4: The Russians are like three hundred meters from the bunker, right,
Speaker 4: and she moves in all her furniture and her clothes
Speaker 4: and her fine china so they can have tea parties
Speaker 4: ever afternoon and listen to music and dance.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's.
Speaker 4: Insane, Yeah, that these people are living like this and
Speaker 4: they got this story from the people that survived. They're
Speaker 4: like a handful of them that got out and were
Speaker 4: able to describe what it was like there in the
Speaker 4: last days they were there witnessing it. And you either
Speaker 4: everybody knew that if you could go west you got
Speaker 4: captured by the Brits or the Americans. You know, you're
Speaker 4: gonna get it, thrown in jail, get a trial, whatever,
Speaker 4: maybe service sentence, maybe you put the death depending on
Speaker 4: what you did.
Speaker 2: But if you went east.
Speaker 4: You're gonna be captured by the Russians, and if you're
Speaker 4: a woman, you'd be raped and shot.
Speaker 2: If you're a man, you'd just be shot.
Speaker 4: So, I mean that was a pretty stark difference, which
Speaker 4: you know, of the allies you surrendered to when they
Speaker 4: all knew it right well.
Speaker 2: And getting back to well, do you remember the name
Speaker 2: of the movie that launched all those memes. It's a
Speaker 2: very similar name. Yeah, it's Yeah, Reckoning or whatever. It is.
Speaker 2: One of the most famous scenes everybody's seen. It is
Speaker 2: when Hitler is pointing to the map and talking about
Speaker 2: Steiner Steineler with a steinel let well talking about Steiner,
Speaker 2: who was a general and his regiment would would intercede
Speaker 2: and defeat the Russians and push them back. Then they
Speaker 2: could reorganize. And that was when all the generals were
Speaker 2: standing around looking at each other like you tell them,
Speaker 2: you tell them, I'll tell them. Steiner got defeated. He's
Speaker 2: his men are scattered, He's got nothing unless he's gonna
Speaker 2: see your lie you have by your liars. I mean
Speaker 2: he would just lose Hiss then, right exactly, even though
Speaker 2: they're like yeah, yeah, Steiner and his guys are long gone,
Speaker 2: and yet still you had people following him in the
Speaker 2: face of that. That contrast that that that bizarre inability
Speaker 2: to see truth. They were with him in not seeing
Speaker 2: the truth that Steiner had been defeated and his men
Speaker 2: were scattered. Yeah, that is It makes you stop and
Speaker 2: think about humans.
Speaker 4: And then so there in the last couple of days,
Speaker 4: he orders Albert Spear, his architect, to go out and
Speaker 4: destroy all the German towns. I want them all destroyed, everything,
Speaker 4: the houses, the homes, everything, their own people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there should be no Germany if it's not
Speaker 2: the Third Ruk, and they don't deserve it, they don't
Speaker 2: deserve life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he betrayed me. They didn't fight hard. Enough, or
Speaker 4: they didn't fight at all, so I'm gonna kill all
Speaker 4: the Germans. And Spear's version of the story, which has
Speaker 4: since been challenged quite a bit, because of course, he
Speaker 4: like everybody else, when he was put on trial and
Speaker 4: then wrote a book he got out of prison. Actually
Speaker 4: he wrote a book. He he he painted a very
Speaker 4: rosy picture of the way he handled things that might
Speaker 4: not be completely accurate either, But he didn't carry out
Speaker 4: those plans, so it didn't happen, he claims. He told
Speaker 4: Hitler at the end, by the way, I didn't burn
Speaker 4: those villages or anything like that, And he says, a
Speaker 4: teary eyed Hitler looked at me as I walked out
Speaker 4: of the room. Nobody's sure if that happened or not.
Speaker 4: And that seems a little self ingrandizing.
Speaker 2: But people are so crazy.
Speaker 4: Human beings are capable of being so violently evilly crazy.
Speaker 4: Always have been, always will be.
Speaker 2: Ah, I'm glad you made that point, because anybody thinks, well,
Speaker 2: that was World War two, and that was the forties,
Speaker 2: and people were very different in the nineteen forties than
Speaker 2: they are in the modern world. You, my friend, are
Speaker 2: a fool. You can become not a fool anymore. So
Speaker 2: don't worry. It's not a death sentence. But you don't
Speaker 2: understand human nature doesn't change. The lunatics screaming on college
Speaker 2: campuses right now are those loyal Germans. Absolutely, They're the
Speaker 2: same people with the same thoughts, with the same little
Speaker 2: part of the brain lighting up that I hope science
Speaker 2: can figure out someday.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's the orwell thing that the hardest thing
Speaker 4: to do is to see what's right in front of
Speaker 4: one's own face is apparently true.
Speaker 2: We'll finish strong next Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 7: The final mass marking the end of nine days of
Speaker 7: Morning for Pope Francis, who died last month in attendance.
Speaker 7: The cardinal electors will choose the next hope. But an
Speaker 7: ani generated image of President Trump as Pope has ignited
Speaker 7: a firestorm. The President posted that image on social media
Speaker 7: this weekend, and the White House reposted it. New York's
Speaker 7: Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who was a friend of Trump, said
Speaker 7: it was not great, lended a bad impression, and we
Speaker 7: hope the President had.
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with it. The fact that the White
Speaker 2: House twitter posted that picture of Trump as Pope is
Speaker 2: just we live in a different era. Yes, yes, what
Speaker 2: what what? What does the future look like? I don't
Speaker 2: know what. To what extent do we return to something
Speaker 2: resembling normalcy? Uh? And to what extent do we want to? Well?
Speaker 4: How long do you have to live in the current
Speaker 4: version of life before it is normalcy?
Speaker 2: I mean, well, yeah, right, yeah, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with it. I don't care. I'm not offended.
Speaker 2: I don't think it will cause any trouble. No, it's
Speaker 2: just so nuts, I know. We'll do Let's let's post
Speaker 2: a picture of the president as the new pope.
Speaker 4: Now, uh Bill Crystal who used to be a conservative
Speaker 4: and is now a money grubbing uh phony who hates
Speaker 4: on Trump on Trump all day long. But he is
Speaker 4: a phony and just trying to find it forgot a
Speaker 4: way to get rich, I think anyway, he tweeted it
Speaker 4: JD Vance, Hey, Jdvan's you're a Catholic. How do you
Speaker 4: feel about your boss making a joke of the Pope?
Speaker 4: And JD Vance's response was I can handle humor, I
Speaker 4: can't handle lying us into a war that kills five
Speaker 4: thousand soldiers or whatever. Because Joe Crystal was so big
Speaker 4: into the Iraq Force. YEA thought that was a pretty
Speaker 4: good clap back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no kidding. So when you were talking about
Speaker 2: the Anthony Hopkins Hitler movie The Bunker, and originally we
Speaker 2: thought it was in nineteen eighty two, and I was
Speaker 2: trying to find some more information about it, and so
Speaker 2: I was looking at best movies nineteen eighty two. There
Speaker 2: are many people, Jack who consider nineteen eighty two to
Speaker 2: be the all time best year for movies. I didn't
Speaker 2: know that, which I hadn't realized either. Here's your top
Speaker 2: movies of nineteen eighty two. The King of Comedy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: good movie, Robert DeNiro, Jerry Lewis, Martin Scorsese movie on
Speaker 2: an amazing movie. Blade Runner is nineteen eighty two. Sophie's choice.
Speaker 2: Good Lord. If you're not already impressed, you ought to be. Then,
Speaker 2: on a lighter note, TOUTSI Tootsie, as I prefer to
Speaker 2: which I think of one best picture amaze, one selter
Speaker 2: Or probably started this whole office, and one that's right
Speaker 2: for his gender bending madness role. You got missing Victor,
Speaker 2: Victoria speaking of a Genlemann menace, Gandhi. Wow, what a year.
Speaker 2: The verdict forty eight hours e t the Extraterrestrial. Wow,
Speaker 2: that's spelling. When Hollywood made movies, they don't really anymore.
Speaker 2: For variety of star Trek rathakn.
Speaker 5: Con He got my SAGII out what they got through
Speaker 5: the fireworks? Final thoughts.
Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 4: Here's your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty Skeleton Crew today.
Speaker 2: But let's get a final thought from the few remaining
Speaker 2: here in the Armstrong and Getty bunker, starting with Jack
Speaker 2: Jack a final thought.
Speaker 4: Uh, I've been quite unhealthy now for almost a month,
Speaker 4: and I say this all the time. I don't even
Speaker 4: know what it means myself, but when you're feeling good,
Speaker 4: you should feel it's more precious or I'll hold it
Speaker 4: in greater esteem or something, because man, it goes away
Speaker 4: and everything sucks when you don't feel good.
Speaker 2: Everything. Yep. The healthy man has a thousand dreams. The
Speaker 2: sick man has one dream. Special guest final thought Mike Hanson.
Speaker 2: I am truly sorry to learn that you're on your deathbed.
Speaker 4: But Billy the backup and Joe have got this thing
Speaker 4: covered in the future.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, I'm dead. Everything will be fine. Sorry, Billy,
Speaker 2: very talented. My final thought also Conan the Barbarian in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty two. What a year.
Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday.
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Speaker 2: at a drive in theater. It was so dark you
Speaker 2: couldn't see anything. It was like a black screen for
Speaker 2: two hours, and you could have heard the dialogue. It
Speaker 2: would have been perfect. There he goes. It's it's really serious.
Speaker 2: They're locking up my toothcuts. The devil ain't gonna win. No, No,
Speaker 2: that's not what I was told. So everybody chills, shut up. Okay, okay, sorry,
Speaker 2: So let's go with a bang boy, got a smear
Speaker 2: goose lever on our chests to prevent pneumonia and the consumptions.
Speaker 2: Kill a bison and split spread the blood on her
Speaker 2: foreheads and dance around a tree. No, that's not a
Speaker 2: good idea that I note they saw very much. Armstrong
Speaker 2: and Getty