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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah? And so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Monday, October seventh, twenty nineteen, Season fifteen, episode

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Speaker 1: number fifty eight. Welcome to another edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We're locking STUBC Morgage Studios at the Star and we

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Speaker 1: gotta talk to you guys about this Cowboys loss. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: loses Green Bay Packers thirty four twenty four in a

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Speaker 1: game that I'm not even sure the score really reflects

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Speaker 1: all the things that happened in this game, because there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of different parts to the game that

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Speaker 1: are worth discussing. And I think that's where I want

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Speaker 1: the table, and I don't want everybody to tell me

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Speaker 1: coming out of that game, what was the biggest storyline

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Speaker 1: that stood out to you? Because I think there were, again,

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Speaker 1: were a lot of storylines in this game. Let's start

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Speaker 1: first with you, Nick, all right, story of the game, well,

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Speaker 1: I get to write a column about it, so because

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Speaker 1: I could just cheat off of that. But I think

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Speaker 1: for the second straight game they've lost in the opening drive.

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Speaker 1: The opening drive lost the game for them, and that's

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Speaker 1: that's where it stood. I mean, all these things that happened.

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Speaker 1: If Cooper catches that ball, they're probably gonna go score.

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Speaker 1: Maybe on that play changes the whole game. Same with

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Speaker 1: missing Randall cop in the back of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: You think it's a long game and it's gonna play out,

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Speaker 1: and yes they could have, but as it turns out,

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Speaker 1: I think that that was affected the game. I you're

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Speaker 1: going to me, sure, absolutely. I agree with Nick to

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Speaker 1: a point. It really like as as much as a

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Speaker 1: game that happened, or a play that happened four plays

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Speaker 1: into it can affect the game. I mean, it's hard

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Speaker 1: to move past just how big that was. Like it's

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Speaker 1: probably a touchdown at the very least, Like the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Green Bay's basically in Cowboy territory. Just a ridiculous swing.

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Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean, we're I just

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Speaker 1: can't I can't sugarcoat or overlook Aaron Jones running the

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Speaker 1: ball nineteen times for one hundred yards and catching seven

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Speaker 1: passes for seventy five yards, like he did to them

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Speaker 1: what we were worried Alvin Kamara might do. And I

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Speaker 1: know Aaron Rodgers is a better quarterback than Teddy Bridgewater

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Speaker 1: and that's going to affect the way you play. But

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Speaker 1: for them to very successfully limit Alvin Kamara's impact in

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Speaker 1: for like all of that progress to go out the

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Speaker 1: window was really really surprising, baffling. Like the linebackers looked lost,

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Speaker 1: the defensive line looked like it couldn't get any push

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Speaker 1: frighteningly bad defense for like the first two and a

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Speaker 1: know these teams, the Saints and the Packers have good

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Speaker 1: the same time, I feel like a lot of these

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Speaker 1: kind of playing against themselves, making their own mistakes on

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Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy, especially after watching that game. But

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Speaker 1: Like I truly feel one that the Cowboys are going

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Speaker 1: to be able to turn things around and make it work.

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Speaker 1: I am more upset at the fact that they played

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Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, what the heck are you doing? Okay? Why

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Speaker 1: He goes twenty seven to forty four, sixty one percent

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Speaker 1: How do you guys in your minds reconcile that performance

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Speaker 1: two of which you probably put at least one you

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Speaker 1: made some bad decisions. How do you reconcile this? I

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Speaker 1: That's not gonna get it done. And I completely agree

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Speaker 1: The interception to Sullivan over the middle was I mean terrible.

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Speaker 1: It was a terrible decision. He didn't see him at all.

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Speaker 1: You know that once they you know, they started happening.

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Speaker 1: Because if you really look at it, this was week

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Speaker 1: two against the Redskins. I just told this to Rob.

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Speaker 1: This is the exact same game as the Redskins game.

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Speaker 1: And no one thinks that the Redskin game was really close.

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Speaker 1: They kind of had him, they controlled him. They came

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Speaker 1: That's also why those two moments are also the reason

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Speaker 1: And so it still was a microcosm of what they've

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Zeke. You mentioned Zeke, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: Like he got all this money. I was just expecting

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Speaker 1: and that's not what we've seen, particularly the last two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Although when you look at the game yesterday, they actually

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Speaker 1: and a touchdown. That all being said, I'm sorry you said.

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Speaker 1: You even said in the press box that when we

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Speaker 1: end of the first half. Member. Yes, I know, like

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Speaker 1: lofted it to him. And the thing about that was

429
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Speaker 1: is that he doesn't see the blue line of scrimmage

430
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Speaker 1: that we see, like that you see on the on

431
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Speaker 1: the tape, you know, like when you're watching the game.

432
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Speaker 1: Obviously he doesn't have that, but it feels like he

433
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Speaker 1: knows it, like you know, like he's running and he

434
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: just kind of stops right at the last second because

435
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, I'm about to go over the line,

436
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: like he just feels that and then makes that great throw.

437
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: Even still, and like I said, I'm positive that the

438
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Speaker 1: skill of the quarterback plays a role in that, Like

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Speaker 1: you're gonna play that differently than you're gonna play Teddy

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00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,239
Speaker 1: Bridgewater most likely I get that, but still still they

441
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: got bullied. My main impression is Antoine Woods is a

442
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:45,720
Speaker 1: good football player, but he is not so good that

443
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Speaker 1: he's going to magically fix this, which means they got

444
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Speaker 1: they got some work to do. So where are the

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Speaker 1: problems out? Which I think name a guy in the

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Speaker 1: front seven? We go here, we go? Well, someone someone

447
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Speaker 1: mentioned this to me and showed me a clip, and

448
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Speaker 1: then I went back to watch several plays to see

449
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Speaker 1: if it was true or not. But this whole what

450
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Speaker 1: the revs are doing. I know that's a whole another

451
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Speaker 1: topic here, but if you notice what Green Bay's defensive

452
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: line was doing the right tackle, he would wait for

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Speaker 1: the center to kind of lift up his head and

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Speaker 1: before he spiked the ball, he would just be doing

455
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Speaker 1: a false start every single time, and he was never called.

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Speaker 1: And you could go and I watched multiple plays and

457
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 1: he would do it every single thing. He was He

458
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Speaker 1: was backing out before the ball was actually flore and

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Speaker 1: he was never called. And I'm like, are you which

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Speaker 1: side did you tell the left tackle, right, How did

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Speaker 1: it make it get onto our show? There's some irony

462
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Speaker 1: there because the point is the I'm saying it goes

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Speaker 1: both ways, and I'm I'm sorry, and you're you know what.

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Speaker 1: On the on the last like we were down on

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Speaker 1: the field the last Packers possession, I noticed that. I

466
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Speaker 1: was like, bulag is clearly early. But that's not why

467
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: the defensive line got pushed around. No, no, no, I'm

468
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Speaker 1: not saying all day, I'm not saying that would have

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Speaker 1: changed the game whatsoever. But it's still frustrated, especially when

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Speaker 1: you get guys on your own old line that are

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Speaker 1: maybe called for holding or this and that, and it's

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Speaker 1: just any just when you see that the other team

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Speaker 1: is not getting called for certain things that your team

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Speaker 1: does get called on, it's frustrated. Well, when you guys

475
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Speaker 1: were in middle school and Mark Colombo was playing here,

476
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Speaker 1: who's ironically the old high school? Oh eight college? Okay, okay, anyways,

477
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Speaker 1: young Mark Colombo did that his entire career, His entire

478
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Speaker 1: career was a half second early than the snap. He

479
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Speaker 1: just was. I mean, I'm not saying that it's okay,

480
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Speaker 1: but it just happens. I just i's the linebackers were terrible,

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Speaker 1: is what. I don't know what's going on with with

482
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Speaker 1: the howling and the swiping and all that, but but

483
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,200
Speaker 1: it's not happening enough because they're not making enough plays

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Speaker 1: and Jalen Smith and Layton vander Esh, I mean, let's

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Speaker 1: call it like it is. When they played terrible the running,

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Speaker 1: I mean, when they were not good against the Rams

487
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Antoine Woods wasn't there. But whatever, um

488
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Speaker 1: they they're not when they're not on and they're getting

489
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Speaker 1: bullied around, this defense isn't that good and so that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a problem. Bullied aren't playing well. Confused. I

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Speaker 1: mean they they lost contain yeah, six different times. And

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Speaker 1: I mean the bye bye touchdown where Aaron Jones was

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Speaker 1: waving at Byron Jones again, like the whole defense got

494
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Speaker 1: sucked inside and it's an easy walk in. And that

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00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,360
Speaker 1: happened more than once. Uh. And it happened inside as well,

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Speaker 1: where guys were just not getting in their fits. Like

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Speaker 1: you could you could see where the defense was flowing,

498
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 1: and you could see right in the gap where somebody

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Speaker 1: should have been and whether it was a linebacker of safety, nobody,

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Speaker 1: nobody fit there. Malie Malie Collins is off to a

501
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 1: good start this season, but he did not have a

502
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Speaker 1: good game yesterday. Does Crawford come back stop? That's harsh?

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Speaker 1: Didn't He made a play the first series, first series

504
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Speaker 1: of the game where it was Quinn. I really thought

505
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: he was he was dealing with bologging getting off early.

506
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: That was Lawrence was doing that. And Lawrence was fighting

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Speaker 1: linebackers and tight ends all day too. Oh, he was

508
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 1: doubled in triple teams. They several times they had a

509
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Speaker 1: very good plan for how to deal with the pass rush.

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Speaker 1: And honestly, like they had a very good plan. They

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Speaker 1: have very good offensive tackles. They have a quarterback who

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Speaker 1: can get rid of the ball. I know Rodgers likes

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Speaker 1: to hold it, but he can. And I still thought

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Speaker 1: the pass rush was pretty good all things considered, Like

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Speaker 1: there were several plays where they forced him to get

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Speaker 1: rid of it. They sacked him twice, Like this wasn't

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen where Aaron Rodgers on one leg was just

518
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: standing back there all day like they made him uncomfortable.

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00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: It was. I mean, but the run defense is it

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00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: just was? It was a killer. I will say this too.

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Speaker 1: There were also times in that game where where there

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Speaker 1: they were actually max protect They would keep back, yeah,

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Speaker 1: two extra guys in some instances just to be able

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Speaker 1: to double both those guys on the outside, and they

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Speaker 1: still were completing passes, which you would think in that

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Speaker 1: kind of situation when you got more guys back there covering,

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00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: you ought to be able to make a stop, and

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00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: they just weren't. Again, that goes to the brilliance of

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. When a receiver gets open and he can

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Speaker 1: just drop it right into a pinpoint accurate place. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter if you've got guys around him, They're still

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Speaker 1: going to complete the pass. And that's what they were

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Speaker 1: doing now. And the frustrating thing is not only is

534
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: this team lost two straight games, but they lost one

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Speaker 1: last week with the team's best player on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: This time they lost with the team's best skill player,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the sideline with Davante Adams out. So

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00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: it's you know, they're catching breaks, but they haven't taken.

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Speaker 1: When you allow fourteen points in the first quarter, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that is hard to just come back from. Would you guys,

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Speaker 1: would you guys take away the turnovers, nix that part

542
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Speaker 1: of it, but would you take green Bay's offensive performance. Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm You're going into a game against Green Bay and

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00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: I tell you they're gonna go for three thirty five,

545
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: are gonna run for one hundred and Rodgers is gonna

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00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080
Speaker 1: throw for two thirty, gonna go three of twelve on

547
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,399
Speaker 1: third down, They're gonna score thirty four points. You take that.

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00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: The thirty four points is still a problem. Thirty four

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00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: points is still a problem. But again, I mean consider

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Speaker 1: the opposition, and I know Davante Adams isn't there, but

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00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: but but I was saying last week, if you, I

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Speaker 1: guess my point is, if you play a cleaner game

553
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Speaker 1: I eat, don't lose the turnover battle three to nothing,

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Speaker 1: then I problem. I'm like, yeah, I'll take that. I

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00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: will take that performance and see where it gets me.

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00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't think the Cowboys even going into

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00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: the game, I didn't think the Cowboys gonna shoot out.

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00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: If you're getting up in the thirty range, I think

559
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose that kind of game because again, that means,

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00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: in my opinion, that means that Aaron Rodgers would not

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00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: have an opportunity with thirty seconds plus anything. At thirty seconds,

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00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 1: I don't think they win that game because Aaron Rodgers

563
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: figures out a way to get it done and win

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00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 1: the game. So I just think, you know, a shootout

565
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: like that, I think is favoring him. But when more

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Speaker 1: than if you keep them down to twenty points or

567
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,159
Speaker 1: sixteen points away. I'm being dumb right now because you

568
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: can't take away the turnovers. But if you don't lose

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00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: the turnover battle three nothing, then it's probably more like

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00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: twenty four twenty seven points instead. Let me ask you this,

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Speaker 1: do you think there was a point in the game,

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Speaker 1: particularly in the first three quarters where the Packers, where

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00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: this defense was stopping the Packers. They didn't start stopping

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00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: them until it was thirty winds right, And that's my point.

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00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: So even if even if you didn't have the turnovers,

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00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 1: they weren't stopping them. They were, yeah, the first job,

577
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: but they really weren't stopping them most of the day.

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Speaker 1: I think I said that yesterday. Actually, I was like,

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00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: you forced two punts in the first half, Like that's

580
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: a win against Aaron Rodgers as far as I'm concerned.

581
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: But your offense has to do something with it. And

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00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: if they had remotely done anything with it, you're maybe

583
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: talking seventeen fourteen or fourteen ten at halftime instead of

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00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing, and it's a completely different game, you know.

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00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: And also you know they called a fumble and Layton

586
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: picks it up and then they go back and you

587
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: know that that was a really weird exchange there for

588
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: the officials and the rules and all that kind of stuff. That, um,

589
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Cowboys, you know, missed a

590
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: big opportunity there because it looked like it was a fumble.

591
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones actually, like Jerry Jones gave Rogers credit for that,

592
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: which I wasn't completely ready to do, but maybe you should.

593
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: Is like, you know, he's that smart that he kind

594
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: of made it look like a pass when maybe but

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00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: that's smart, man. Yeah. But the NFL needs to fix

596
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: that problem because that was that's a rule thing that

597
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: the NFL needs to go in and they need to

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Speaker 1: be able. What do you mean by that, Well, they're

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00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: they're trying to call it a fumble because they don't

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00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: want to call it in complete on that so that

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00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: if it looks close, they're going to call it a

602
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: fumble and give the Cowboys a chance to get the fumble.

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00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Then I can blow the whistle dead. I understand that

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: the problem here is is that when they go back

605
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 1: and reviewed it, they're obviously calling it a fumble, so

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00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,959
Speaker 1: they're not going to call it intentional grounding because they

607
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 1: didn't call it a pass. They called it a fumble.

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00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: But when they're reviewing it and they see that he

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: throws it down like that and it doesn't get to

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00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, that that's in that that should

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00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: be intentional grounding. Let me ask you this though, and

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Speaker 1: somebody brought this up because I initially agree with you

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00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: that it should have been intentional grounding. Somebody brought this

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00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: up on Twitter and made me think twice about that. Though.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he got his hand hit has to

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00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: batter for something, doesn't it, Because if he gets his

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00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: hand hit, then the reason why it didn't get to

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00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage is because he got his hand

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Speaker 1: hit right, So it doesn't make it a fumble, still

620
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: makes an incomplete pass. But the fact that he was

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Speaker 1: throwing and throwing in the direction of a of a receiver,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have called intentional grounding

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Speaker 1: on that even if it was incomplete. Because of all that,

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Speaker 1: I can't I can't bring myself to care about any

625
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: of this when they did so much stupid stuff in

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00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: very true. I mean, we haven't talked about the Garrett penalty.

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00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: We're going there. Twenty total flags. I thought it was

628
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: about as bad of a job refereeing a game as

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Speaker 1: I can remember seeing twenty total for the whole. Yeah,

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00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: still don't care. I still don't care about any of

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Speaker 1: that because most of the others about twenty eight, most

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00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: of them, a lot of them got pulled, you know,

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00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: to call yea. All right, let's take our final break,

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00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: let's come back. I do want to talk about Jason

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00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Garrett and his moment yesterday, a moment that most fans

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00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: probably were I don't know. Maybe they're excited to see

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00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: what we'll talk about that when we come right back.

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Speaker 1: This is Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. Your new apartment's big,

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Speaker 1: such a great deal. Yeah, it's okay, just okay. What's

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Speaker 1: back into this thing. I wanted to talk about Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 1: That was a moment in yesterday's game where uncharacteristically, Jason

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Speaker 1: kind of just lost it. And that's not something most

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Speaker 1: people are used to seeing Jason, nor nobody's really used

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Speaker 1: to seeing Jason doing it. Was Actually, I actually like

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Speaker 1: to see that Jason Garrett. I actually have seen I've

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Speaker 1: seen video of Jason being a lot more animated in

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Speaker 1: some of his team meetings, and I've always said to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people around here, I really want more

691
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Speaker 1: opportunities to show that because I don't think fans really

692
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: know the side of him that a lot of us

693
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Speaker 1: who've seen some of those videos. No, but that moment

694
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Speaker 1: was was pretty good, but it did cost his team.

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Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about what happened and what you

696
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: guys found out after the game. I know there is

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Speaker 1: a pool reporter that can go and talk to officials

698
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Speaker 1: to find out clarity on certain calls. Talk to me

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Speaker 1: about what you guys found. Abusive language was what the

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00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: referee said, That's what it was. Jerry said about that. Yeah, yeah,

701
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: what Jerry said. And there's there's a whole other part

702
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: of it too, which it did not It wasn't anyways. Yeah,

703
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Speaker 1: I was, I would say it. I was just really hoping.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that he was referring to the ref who

705
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: called it and not the female ref. Because that was

706
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Speaker 1: the case, then we have a bigger problem on our hand.

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Speaker 1: That's That's not what Jerry said at all. But I

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Speaker 1: have some insight about some things that happened a little

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00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: earlier than that that led to it. Overall, I thought, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was Jason. There was his emotion, and

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't

712
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 1: think the officials should have done that, but when you

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Speaker 1: go back and look at what happened probably the hour before,

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00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Well, I was trying to let everyone

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Speaker 1: get involved. Sorry I didn't seen you. Remember when I

716
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 1: said it in the press box, I was like, this

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Speaker 1: guy stopped the game to go and tell Jason to

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Speaker 1: get back. Remember that he Jason was kind of down

719
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,959
Speaker 1: there like that. He stops the game and tells Jason

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Speaker 1: to get back. They were going at it beforehand, and

721
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: then on the past interference that he was challenging. He

722
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: was thinking about challenging with UM thirty eight and thirty brown.

723
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Speaker 1: You could see on the broadcast he's like, then do it,

724
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Speaker 1: throw it? Then throw it. He's like, he's like baiting Jason,

725
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Speaker 1: like throw it. So he's like, you know, he's just

726
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 1: kind of like mocking him. So he throws it, and

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00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: then of course it doesn't happen. And that's what he

728
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: was mad about because the way the rules are set up,

729
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 1: once you miss one challenge, you've only got two. So

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Speaker 1: he has to waste this challenge when he says he

731
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Speaker 1: clearly caught it in front of him, which I don't

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Speaker 1: know how clear it was, but they said it was

733
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Speaker 1: clear to them down there on the sideline. They I'm

734
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: sure they had a nice view of it, and I

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Speaker 1: don't think anybody else in that stadium definitely thought it

736
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: was a catch. Well, you know why, you know why

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00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: the moment we noticed it is when you see the

738
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Speaker 1: black flakes popping up because he's dragging that second foot.

739
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: When you're on the sideline, you immediately see those little

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Speaker 1: pebbles popping up, So for them, they probably probably away,

741
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: which it also happened five feet away from the ref

742
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: so right, that's my point. I get Garrett's frustrated, which

743
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, I thought that was stupid for years. I'm

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00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 1: I'm a big college football fan. Their system is better.

745
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: They just review, They review everything that's close. The only problem,

746
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: and I firmly believe this. It makes the game drag

747
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Speaker 1: out forever college football games take foot. How fans care

748
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Speaker 1: about it? That's my point the fight. The NFL cares.

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Speaker 1: The NFL cares more about games being short and the

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Speaker 1: broadcast windows. If the fans don't care, I just don't

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Speaker 1: see the point. It's a it's a stupid system. It

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Speaker 1: sucks that at Yeah, I mean, you got to throw

753
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Speaker 1: a challenge flag to the gate. The referee's mistakes there again,

754
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: the refs were atrocious yesterday for both sides. I like

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Speaker 1: college football system. And here's here's why that that really

756
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: mattered because yeah, they got first and twenty five, they

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00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:16,280
Speaker 1: got twenty six. On the next play they went and scored.

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00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 1: But that you know, the third interception when Gallup was

759
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: going in gets his helmet pulled twice in one play,

760
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Speaker 1: which is maybe a record. I mean, and Dak throws

761
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: it shouldn't have thrown it whatever. But Garrett throws the

762
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: challenge flag there and says, you missed PI big time

763
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: and they're gonna they're gonna overturn that one. And so

764
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 1: now now you're sitting at midfield down fourteen the game.

765
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Speaker 1: You know now that we really might have a game.

766
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: But that's why all of those things kind of played in,

767
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: which is bad. I guess Mickey made this point on

768
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Speaker 1: talking I saw on Twitter, is if if the refs

769
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: don't bungle that, then Garrett's still got a challenge on

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Speaker 1: the gallop king pick and you could conceivably apparent ye

771
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: could conceivably challenge that. They wouldn't have won new splash

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Speaker 1: because they don't overturn it. But you could have at

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Speaker 1: least used it anything the previous thirty seconds, Like what

774
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Speaker 1: were you doing in the previous three seconds of when

775
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Speaker 1: I just say all that just now? But damn, I

776
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Speaker 1: would you look at that? I was looking through. But

777
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Speaker 1: what I said is they would get it. You don't

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Speaker 1: think so, No, you don't think that the ref looking

779
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Speaker 1: that that sees that, the him pulling him his head

780
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Speaker 1: down twice and not going to call that. They haven't

781
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Speaker 1: have they overturned one call all year seven seven. Yeah,

782
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,919
Speaker 1: I haven't seen one in all the football I've watched

783
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: some pretty egregious ones. I saw heading into the weekend's game,

784
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 1: it was like twenty six, and they've they've done seven overturned.

785
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Speaker 1: I think they would have done that one, especially after

786
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: they just you know, screwed them and called a palmty.

787
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,879
Speaker 1: I think they would have given them that one. Yeah,

788
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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I haven't seen it. I haven't

789
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 1: seen anything in all of the NFL football that I've

790
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: watched this season that suggests that they would have done it,

791
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: because I think they ref's care more about preserving their

792
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: own egos and reputations than admitting when they're wrong. So

793
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Speaker 1: I don't know, Sid, because everyone watches the TV and

794
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: sees exactly what happened, so it's like, no, you're not.

795
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,360
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you're getting away within the game, but

796
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: you're still being called. I think the point of them,

797
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: I think the point of them changing that rule this

798
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 1: year was too overturn egregious situations. And I do think

799
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Speaker 1: you can make the argument that that was egregious. I

800
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: kind of agree with Dave that it's got to be

801
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: really egregious, like the chances that they overturn them a

802
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: small because it has to be a situation where it's

803
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Speaker 1: so egregious that they look at and they say, hey,

804
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: this is so big that we have to overturn it

805
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: because we don't want to have another situation like what

806
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: happened with the psych If you bull ahead a guy's

807
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: head down once in a play, yeah, if you do

808
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,439
Speaker 1: it twice in the same play, then egregious egregies. Yeah,

809
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: that's what that is. Yeah, But either way, the point

810
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: is thrown either way. Either way, the point is it

811
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 1: did affect Jason's ability to at least get it on

812
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: record that this was a bad call and allowed them

813
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to be able to correct it. And he

814
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Speaker 1: didn't have that because the ref missed the call and

815
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Speaker 1: then he throws his flag. Maybe because on the Anthony

816
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Speaker 1: Brown one, I think it's well maybe I think it's

817
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 1: funny that you know, it was a third down, right,

818
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: Anthony Brown, Yeah, no, that's first down, But it was

819
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: thirty nine yard penalty. I've seen. I've seen so many

820
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Speaker 1: instances over the years of just watching football games where

821
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 1: a player completely loses his cool gets a flag for

822
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 1: unsportsmanlike conduct and it's you know, We're talking about it

823
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 1: Monday as like the reason why they lost the game,

824
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: and it just it's funny to me, like it speaks

825
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: to how like stoic and even keeled Jason is with

826
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: the clapping and the not getting fired up that like

827
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: he cost his team, and like everybody was thrilled about it.

828
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, finally, finally you act mad in a

829
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: situation where it seems warranted and everybody else is mad.

830
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: You ought to be mad too. But you know, if

831
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: that had happened to a cornerback then we would be

832
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: killing him right now. And I'm really glad that it

833
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 1: was because he said something, because you know, I was

834
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,800
Speaker 1: in the press box. I was like this, you were living, well, no,

835
00:40:58,160 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: you were living about the fact that he would throw

836
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 1: the flag. I thought he was. He was getting shown

837
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: like he was mad that he kind of showed him

838
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: up right, But yet his flag hit the scoreboard like

839
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: he threw it as high as he possibly could to show,

840
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 1: oh no, you didn't, you know, and throws it up

841
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Speaker 1: there like that. But it was he must have called

842
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Speaker 1: him something him. Yeah, it was a bolder m. I approved.

843
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: I approved, Wait, you approve of what? Whatever? Gant said

844
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: his face looked like the flag. I mean, he he

845
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: was mad. He had that red emoji. Won it was.

846
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: It was a nice change of pace, like the fact

847
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: that Jason doesn't get super emotional on the sideline doesn't

848
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: bother me the way it bothers a lot of people.

849
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: But it was still kind of fun to see him

850
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: like he had reached his breaking point. Everybody just wants

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Speaker 1: Bill Cower, you know, let's go. But I mean, Tony Dungee,

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Speaker 1: it worked, Tom Landry, it worked. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone's got their own way and get I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: those guys when they were behind closed door, they got

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Speaker 1: with their teams. And we saw it on that TV

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Speaker 1: show a couple of years ago. Like if you watched

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Speaker 1: All or Nothing, then you know Jason Garrett has a

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Speaker 1: little more fire to them than what people want to

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Speaker 1: give them credit for. You all right, quick show, that

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Speaker 1: is that's what we will do. What we will do.

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Speaker 1: I still need to get into special teams. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about that tomorrow because there were some significant things from

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Speaker 1: the special. We didn't even talk about Brett Maher we

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Speaker 1: did not, but we will tomorrow. So it makes you

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Speaker 1: tune in tomorrow at eleven forty five, our normal time

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Speaker 1: until then for Nick Even, Dave Hellman, Amber Garcia. I'm

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on Dallas

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