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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, I'm gonna watch this in two thousand and three.

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Speaker 1: Keep my eye. Let's see what happens here, and we're

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Speaker 1: are very excited to talk about our Nineties Hoop series because,

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Speaker 1: as you know, lovers of nineties basketball, this was some

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Speaker 1: league with podcaster Dravan Edwards. On today's episode, I'm Miles.

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Speaker 3: Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is my Jack Maddy.

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Speaker 4: Got it looka hits ten, Kay's spinning.

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Speaker 1: Blocks, got it with five? Is gonna try another three? Mister,

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Speaker 2: Time? What you go? Honest?

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Speaker 1: Ryan Edwards, host of the Black Opinions Matter podcast, Coming

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Speaker 1: Home Podcast, uh high school and college basketball player.

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Speaker 2: Well, welcome, thank you, thank you, thank you, man, I

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Speaker 2: like y'all did some research. I was I was about

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Speaker 1: Every time, like it is weird, just as has anybody

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Speaker 2: I want to say Denzel Curry, but I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: Seems like something Zelle would do that feels like something

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Speaker 2: I mean, let's go nineties? Yeah, yeah, it's the it's

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Speaker 4: But TV is responsible for me to pick up the ball.

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Speaker 4: I got a chance to meeting to like four years ago,

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? For for others?

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Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, like you don't you

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Speaker 2: And I think that's just like the toolest thing ever

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Speaker 1: By your account, just throw his money around. Legally, I

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Speaker 2: Do you remember the Sports Illustrated where the cover was

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Speaker 4: I think it's probably hard to market him too, you

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Speaker 2: You know, No, there was an implied who in the

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Speaker 2: Great. He's one of the greats. Yeah, yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: Staff and the team, you know what I mean. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, that was happening because you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean? Grand Hill FeelA right, all those type of campaigns.

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Speaker 1: Really, I know, the marketing power, like yeah, Grant Hill

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Speaker 4: Yeah right yeah, Chris Wallace wall So y'all know that

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Speaker 4: you knew who was originally supposed to do the Chris

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Speaker 4: Rock Boys, right, I mean little Penny Lawrence, mart Lawrence.

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Speaker 2: Really really yeah what had it ended up being Chris Rock?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 4: And mar Lawrence just didn't he just he read the script.

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Speaker 4: He just really wasn't feeling it. And Stacey Genius, Uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was like, let's let's choose Chris Rock

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, Because I can't imagine hearing past me

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh that was made for DMX. Here what

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Speaker 2: I could DM do? Ain't no Heart in Love City?

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Speaker 2: I mean that's like I don't want to hear that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Will Smith could have been Neo and the Matrix imody.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, Yeah I wouldn't, but who knows?

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Speaker 1: Rather? But like I feel like, because did we fully

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Speaker 1: I mean it was clear when they.

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Speaker 4: Were grand Hale was the closest thing named, but any

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Speaker 4: I was wearing a band aid like Nelly for no reason,

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Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying, Like it was just certain things

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Speaker 4: Shoot came out, he had like five non SIGs that

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Speaker 1: I was like, God, have right.

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Speaker 4: The air Up is still one of the joints that

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Speaker 2: Like engraved in my brain. We still call them the pennies. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They were the penny the phone posit.

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Speaker 4: that's not a pippen. But they just did. They performed

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Speaker 2: But we were just like all the Pennies, you know

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Speaker 1: I remember like the Mike Bibbi Arizona team, they were

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Speaker 4: it was kind of uncharacteristic because you never really seen

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Speaker 4: It's not like a team performed, like everybody wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: Mean yeah, Penny too. He was big. He had like

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Speaker 1: it all that time. Like I'm always you know, like

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Speaker 4: How long do y'all think that run was for him?

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Speaker 4: Just the estimated gain the answer?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like before he got injured. Penny's dominance, I would get.

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Speaker 4: Two years and a half, seasons three, three, But guess

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Speaker 4: Felt like it felt like the same thing. The advertising

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Speaker 2: We were robbed. We moved on that quick. Does have

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Speaker 2: Derek Rose, Yeah, Derek Rose is good. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 2: I was delusional.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, oh he Rolls were about to win it,

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Speaker 4: I mean he has some you know, he had a

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Speaker 1: So if you could, if you could wait so it

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Speaker 1: sounds like you're you skew more grand Hill than Penny,

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Speaker 1: more longevity, who you want to see grand Hills go

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Speaker 2: No, I would say Penny.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I would save Penny because of the cultural relevance.

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Speaker 2: Like Green Hill was like Goodie two shoot you feel me?

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, he's like the Tim Duncan of small Fords,

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like game right, he might

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Speaker 4: wasn't like no celebration and it wasn't yeah, it wasn't

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Speaker 2: But he just played the game the right way. It

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Speaker 2: I just felt like we would have got more cooler sneakers.

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Speaker 2: He probably would have got like you know what I mean, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we would have got some like we probably would

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Speaker 4: what I mean, And like that Pinstripe Orlando Joint was

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Speaker 4: just probably would have got more shocking Penny years, you

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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, so there's there's a bigger

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. This game feels a little

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Speaker 2: like captured my imagination as a kid.

442
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,840
Speaker 4: You know. It was very It was very fresh though,

443
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,399
Speaker 4: like the big point guards we had was quote unquote

444
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,159
Speaker 4: Magic Johnson, you know what I mean, Like but he

445
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 4: didn't point four, but like uh flare of like you know,

446
00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:00,160
Speaker 4: like that one move that's that comes on Twitter every

447
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,040
Speaker 4: once in a while where he dribbles and spins like

448
00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 4: that he doing like he was doing some innovation and stuff,

449
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:06,080
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

450
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,200
Speaker 2: That kind of was like you've seen that or he

451
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. He made passing cool, like

452
00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 2: mad they made passing cool. But it was like of

453
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:15,960
Speaker 2: our era, our generation.

454
00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,880
Speaker 4: If you I'm eighty five, so like I'm in the nineties,

455
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,919
Speaker 4: I'm really like, oh Penny that you know, so by

456
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,320
Speaker 4: the time, and I still you know it just like yo,

457
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,960
Speaker 4: it's like a bad rapper who doesn't get better and

458
00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 4: he just only gets trashed.

459
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 2: But you're still riding with it. Like the Knicks years,

460
00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,600
Speaker 2: the Miami heat, I still was like that was like.

461
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,159
Speaker 4: Damn near Dion and the Redskins Jersey, Like it was

462
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,520
Speaker 4: like it was over, but I'm still just rooting for dog.

463
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 1: Like go ahead, That's what it was like. It was

464
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: kind of a moment though. And then Jason Kidd and

465
00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,439
Speaker 1: Penny were playing together at the Sunset.

466
00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,360
Speaker 4: They also had well, Phoenix had crazy point guard Factory.

467
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: They had at one point in time they had Nash,

468
00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:57,360
Speaker 4: Kevin Johnson, and Jay Kidd.

469
00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 2: On the roster. Like what, Yeah, that's nuts, crazy, that's nuts.

470
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 2: That's that's too many great point guards. Who are your

471
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,880
Speaker 2: top five point guards of all time?

472
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,440
Speaker 4: Magic, Isaiah Thomas. This is in order, by the way,

473
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 4: going to Steph Curry, chasing Kidd, Chris Paul.

474
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 1: Okay, how you feeling about him going to the Spurs.

475
00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: I love it. I called it all.

476
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 4: I called it out like a year ago. I not

477
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 4: not that he would go to the Spurs, but that

478
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,479
Speaker 4: it was just a good fit. Yeah, saying, because it's

479
00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 4: like it works out for both you know what I'm saying,

480
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 4: Like when we probably gonna tell him shut the hell up,

481
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:39,080
Speaker 4: but he's like, because Chris and Chris Paul. I'm older

482
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 4: than Chris Paul too, that bugs me out. But like

483
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 4: hoop and Chris Paul is like hooping with your older brother,

484
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 4: your uncle who's going to coach you mid game, like

485
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: y'all pickups and you're like, well, I got it, like

486
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,400
Speaker 4: right there, right there, right yeah, But it helps both

487
00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 4: of them, right low low low risks one year, but

488
00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:00,639
Speaker 4: he's going to get win me the ball, put the

489
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 4: ball in certain situations, teach him how to put him

490
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 4: in positions of how to score better, you know what

491
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 4: I mean, Like probably we don't get a winby three

492
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,199
Speaker 4: unless willn't be.

493
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,560
Speaker 2: Just hot, you know what I mean.

494
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 4: It's more of a smarter like hey, when I go

495
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: this way, you know what I mean, Because Chris Paul

496
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 4: is responsible for my former teammate's success, Tyson Chandler.

497
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, oh, did you go

498
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,640
Speaker 1: to Domingas?

499
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 2: I went to do minga Okay, yeah, so you know,

500
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: in in.

501
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,680
Speaker 4: Those scenarios, you gotta look at it like Tyson was

502
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:35,920
Speaker 4: a small Ford with the Bulls bad organization, you know

503
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 4: what I mean, a guy who ain't never took took

504
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 4: one three in high school. You got him playing small

505
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 4: Ford Eddie Curry the four and five s, which is you.

506
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 2: Know what I mean, like that, that's that's bad.

507
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,199
Speaker 4: So Chris Paul was able to like get him back

508
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 4: in the position of like catch lockcatch, you know.

509
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 2: But now he's gonna be able to feed Winby. You know,

510
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: they gonna be able to do some stuff.

511
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 4: And then getting Harrison Barnes, like that team is going

512
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 4: to go to bed on time, they had no extra

513
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 4: nights out.

514
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: They're gonna drink their wine with pop.

515
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 4: And they gonna be the most professional team ever and

516
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,600
Speaker 4: they gonna know the every rule in the book.

517
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 2: And if they can get Lori markin into, yeah, that

518
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,439
Speaker 2: would be interesting. Do you think they're ready to make

519
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: a run with this current roster or like not a

520
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 2: run at the title, but like you know, being the

521
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: postseason with current roster, do you think they need like

522
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 2: a marketing I think they got it. I think they

523
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: got it enough to be playing and figure it out

524
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: from there.

525
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: Just because the team is just disciplined, Like I don't

526
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 4: think them two players hurt them.

527
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,120
Speaker 2: I think with Winby in itself.

528
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: I think Winby's gonna be like a twenty four to

529
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,359
Speaker 4: twenty seven point player a game, right, and then that

530
00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 4: team is going to be smarter and veteran led Like

531
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 4: you don't need Chris Paul to.

532
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 2: Do a lot.

533
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 4: You got Stephan You know what I mean, Stephan Castle

534
00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: coming off the bench if he starts or whatever. I

535
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: don't know how they're gonna use that. What he's going

536
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: to learn and become better. I give him like a

537
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: forty thirty five or forty forty game window before he

538
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,960
Speaker 4: starts getting into like I get it.

539
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like you know, they're gonna be really disciplined.

540
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 4: Pop teams are always disciplined, and they're gonna like trust

541
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 4: the system and.

542
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: With night and day from them team last year.

543
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, So who should I How far should I

544
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: have them going? So I'm gonna put money on.

545
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 2: It at least first round like birth playoff Birth.

546
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would go that deep like where they're like

547
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 4: in the Battle of ten and seven, you get what

548
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,119
Speaker 4: I'm saying, where like.

549
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 2: They could beat somebody to get.

550
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,919
Speaker 4: Up to like right, that but like I'm not going

551
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 4: to be like, oh they're top five, Like no, for sure,

552
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 4: but I mean that's either way.

553
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: What did they win? How many games they win last year?

554
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 2: Twenty two games? Last year Vegas has them winning thirty

555
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: six and a half. I'm banging the over on that

556
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: if I'm betting money, because they're not done like I do.

557
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 4: They're not done like I think they're going out, Like

558
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 4: they're not about to bring Chris Paul on to tank

559
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: to get Cooper flag. You know what I'm saying, Like

560
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: I'm going to punt this year. This year is bought

561
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 4: to be in a positive direction. But they're getting off

562
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: these all these toxic players, not saying it toxic, but

563
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: like they're selfish as hell.

564
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: Right, that aren't going to propel them forward.

565
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: They were frustrated to watch sometimes last year. You know

566
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 2: why we're there. You know why we was watching.

567
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 4: It was watching me the ball, Like we can come

568
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 4: here watch you know, somebody get looked off.

569
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: Exactly, I get it, all right, we should take a

570
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: break and when we come back, we're going to talk

571
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: about Team USA. We'll be right back, and we're back.

572
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 2: We're back. So Team USA went five and zero in

573
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: the Showcase Games. They start with Serbia on Sunday in Paris.

574
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't feel like my main takeaway from the Showcase

575
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: Games is like, why are so many of these so close?

576
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: My other takeaway was Lebron James is amazing.

577
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: But the.

578
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 2: How are you guys feeling confident heading in?

579
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: I just reflexively, I think there's just so much historical

580
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: momentum aside from you know, a couple off years. But

581
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I mean, the one thing is

582
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: it's a it's completely different than where we started. Like

583
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 1: if we're saying ninety two is the beginning of this

584
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: experiment of dream teams and where we are now, like

585
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 1: that stat about what was it In ninety two there

586
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 1: were only nine NBA players in the Olympics outside of

587
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the Dream Team. This year they're facing to sixty point one. Yeah,

588
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: set one, and that's in a way, it's really just

589
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I'm necessarily being like they

590
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: gotta win. I'm like, this is actually gonna be really

591
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 1: comp I feel like this is really fun.

592
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 4: I think the thing is it's not a fair comparison

593
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 4: to the Dream Team because the Dream Team.

594
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 2: Beat Bell to basically put Bell to ask to.

595
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 4: All these countries so much that they inspired the next

596
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 4: generation to focus and take basketball serious as a sport.

597
00:26:59,080 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 2: Boom.

598
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 4: You know what I'm say of like, Yo, I didn't

599
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 4: like how you would treat my country. All right, We're

600
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 4: going to make some of these players, you know what

601
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 4: I mean. We're gonna actually try to like go get

602
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 4: some players to like join on and and and and

603
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 4: start having our young guys develop and build that chemistry.

604
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,120
Speaker 4: Like some of these guys have been playing together since

605
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 4: they're fourteen years old and they're like thirty three now,

606
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, So like you can't teach

607
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 4: that certain that certain chemistry. But my takeaways from team

608
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 4: you will say right now, Steve Kerr, you're pissing me off.

609
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 2: Because you know that response a lot from a lot

610
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: of people.

611
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 4: He's he's a good coach. But like the idea that

612
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 4: you got to run the offense through Joe and be

613
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 4: you do not That's not how it works.

614
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 2: You're not using it. As a Sixers fan, I can

615
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 2: tell you you should not do that. You know what

616
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

617
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 4: Well, you're just like in general, you're just not that's

618
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:53,679
Speaker 4: not how that's the best support for the team Anthony Edwards.

619
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: The ball sticks love AE, but not in this setting.

620
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: I think the best roster out there is Drew Holliday,

621
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 4: Ron James, Steph Curry, BAM out of bio, Anthony Davis.

622
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,360
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, I mean Anthony

623
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: Davis for sure is the one that I have a

624
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: question about. But I'm with BAM. Though I'm with BAM

625
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 2: on the defensive end.

626
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 4: I don't need Bam to be shooting threes and things

627
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: of that nature, but like they're solid.

628
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: I don't love that.

629
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: Tyre's Halliburton just fell out on a rotation. Derek White,

630
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 4: I do not want to see you on the floor.

631
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 4: I mean use to you, you know what I mean,

632
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: NBA Champion, good player, but this is the force and

633
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: and everybody shouldn't be playing. I think we get you

634
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean. Like now that we've kind of

635
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 4: figured things.

636
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, it feels like a YMCA coach who's like,

637
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: all right, so you guys, you five go in and

638
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 2: now in the second quarter, you five go.

639
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: It's like and I played with my cousin. We play

640
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: a lot together and like we actually like you should

641
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: see our two man game it's actually pretty good.

642
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 4: Well, a rant will add a little bit of spacing.

643
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: I think him being able to play.

644
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 4: The center as well as a backup center is going

645
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 4: to help at some point on the defensive end.

646
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 2: I know people were you know, Brian Winhorse put off

647
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: this statement.

648
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: Speaking he doesn't do this for anybody else, So I'm

649
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 4: gonna have to speak out for this one because I

650
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 4: don't like how you doing.

651
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: My dog like that.

652
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, K's ready to play,

653
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But it's not solely on him,

654
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Like I think I think

655
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 4: these are the mixed reports that come out and people

656
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: will be like, why is he there or why is

657
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 4: he seeing Kawhi Holme? This is fishy, and it's just like, no,

658
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,360
Speaker 4: he's been wanting to play, he's been ready to play

659
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 4: for the past two games. But they just move and precaution,

660
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, They like, do we really

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Speaker 4: need him?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

663
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Speaker 4: On the emergency break glass, and it's like if you

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Speaker 4: aren't one hundred percent, the players are always going to say.

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Speaker 2: I'm good to go, coach, you know what I mean.

666
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Speaker 4: And I think he's I do think that he's a

667
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Speaker 4: good eighty five percent right, wants to be out there,

668
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Speaker 4: could contribute.

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Speaker 2: But it's like at what costs?

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Speaker 4: I think we got this, you know what I mean,

671
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Speaker 4: when you really feel that it ain't sore.

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Speaker 2: We ain't got a million of ice packs on you.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Right? You good? But he ready to play.

675
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Speaker 4: I ain't got a chance to chop it up with him,

676
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Speaker 4: you know what I mean? Out there and he's ready.

677
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Speaker 4: It wasn't no thing of like, oh you can't play.

678
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: It's just that everybody gotta be on board in the

679
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: line with that, you know what I mean. The same

680
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Speaker 4: way how you'll be like why why kawhy not playing

681
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 4: back to back?

682
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Speaker 1: Right?

683
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Speaker 4: There's a system and set like you know what I mean,

684
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Speaker 4: Like it doesn't work that way. Same thing, ad some

685
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Speaker 4: dudes really want to play. It's not that they be

686
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: really hurt, like it'd be like, nah, you know what,

687
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Speaker 4: he played forty minutes.

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Speaker 2: We're probably not trying to we need him, you know

689
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Speaker 2: what I mean. Like that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: It ain't we ain't getting no more eighty two games

691
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Speaker 4: with you, like Mickel Bridges, but he put the expectations.

692
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Speaker 4: Ain't that high on him as a top ten guy.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like, right, I need you

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Speaker 4: to play at least sixty five games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think we talked about this last time. We were

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Speaker 1: talking about tam USA Jack. But like I guess again,

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Speaker 1: after seeing this, who of the teams that would the

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Speaker 1: that team USA are going to face? Like I mean,

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Speaker 1: the odds have it right now that it looks like

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Speaker 1: I guess Canada has the best odds at you know,

702
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Speaker 1: they're plus eleven hundred, but like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Canada's plus eleven hundred, Francis plus twelve hundred, Serbia's

704
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: plus sixteen hundred, the USA is minus five hundred. Like

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Speaker 2: the USA is a big favorite, big betting favorite, which

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess that makes sense historically, but

707
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: also I mean historically this same coaching staff and some

708
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Speaker 2: of these same players lost in the World Championships, you know,

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Speaker 2: fairly recently was that last year of the year before,

710
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Speaker 2: But there doesn't seem to be that separation. So I

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Speaker 2: think it's going to take just perfect execution on the

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Speaker 2: coaching and then from the players, and seeing the way

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Speaker 2: Lebron's taking a leadership role, I feel like they're going

714
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Speaker 2: to get it from the players, But I think they

715
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Speaker 2: need to figure some things out in terms of the rotations,

716
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Speaker 2: and not just us figuring it out for them. They

717
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Speaker 2: have to actually listen to us.

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Speaker 4: Steve Kerr, right, I do think that they do pay attention.

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Speaker 4: I think that it just needs to be some fine

720
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Speaker 4: tuning in those things. I don't think that Lebron going

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Speaker 4: the way he's going about it to win ball games

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Speaker 4: for them is going to help them in the long run.

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Speaker 2: Some true adversity, right, Lebron's still very good.

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Speaker 4: I do think that he's a top ten player, all

725
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Speaker 4: that best player in the world stuff. I'm not really taking.

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Speaker 4: But I will say that he knows his advantages right,

727
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Speaker 4: and it's kind of a flash of what he's.

728
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Speaker 2: Going to be. I'm honestly, I'm more impressed.

729
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Speaker 4: That he's been able to keep up at this pace

730
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Speaker 4: of what he's supposed to do. But I always thought

731
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Speaker 4: I wanted him to become in year eighteen to twenty,

732
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Speaker 4: Karl Malone right, understanding understanding how to use your body

733
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Speaker 4: the right way and becoming a good post player. You

734
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Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Huh, just because he could dominate

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Speaker 4: in that space. He's literally he's literally bigger than everybody.

736
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But what if Karl Malone

737
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Speaker 2: and John Stockton were the same person. There you go,

738
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Speaker 2: there you go. Yeah, because he I mean, he's been

739
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Speaker 2: he's been great on ball.

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Speaker 4: I think he dribbles a little. I think he takes

741
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Speaker 4: a little bit more time to kind of show off.

742
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Speaker 4: Is Hey, I've been working on my dribble thing a

743
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Speaker 4: little bit. But in actuality, like you know, I really

744
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: wish he would go to the block. But he's he's

745
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 4: he's helpful out there, you know what I mean on

746
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Speaker 4: some catch and shoot because Steve Ker's not running step

747
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Speaker 4: off the off off the screens enough and using it

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Speaker 4: for that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: All right, let me hear everybody's gold, silver, and bronze

751
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Speaker 1: predictions for for basketball.

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm. So I mean the US had Serbia first,

753
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Speaker 2: Serbia has got Jokic. I mean they're currently like the

754
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Speaker 2: fourth most likely according to DraftKings. I'm gonna go team

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Speaker 2: USA gold, France, Silver, Serbia bronze. Okay, I don't know

756
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Speaker 2: why I'm doing Canada like that.

757
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go USA gold, I'm gonna go Germany bronze

758
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Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go France silver.

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Speaker 1: I'm also I think the gold medal game would be

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Speaker 1: USA France, just because I think obviously when you play

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Speaker 1: in your own country, there's there's like that huge built

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Speaker 1: in advantage. But then on top of it, yeah, just

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Speaker 1: the wenby go bear of it all I think will

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Speaker 1: be interesting. So I go US a gold, France silver,

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Speaker 1: And just because you know I'm black and knees, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna say Japan bronze.

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Speaker 2: There it is, all right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, got a shout out?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? All right? Should we take one more break and

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Speaker 2: then do the fastest segment and podcast going.

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Speaker 1: To be the fastest segment of question answer segment on

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Speaker 1: podcasts podcasting history.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, here we.

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Speaker 1: Got and we're back. Can I call you mister Edwards.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, man, I'm that's called me.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll here, professor, Professor eds This is the

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Speaker 1: time we are going to ask the professor the questions, okay,

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Speaker 1: and they are going to be fast. They will be rapid,

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Speaker 1: and you need to just answer quickly because this is

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Speaker 1: the fastest question answer segment in all sports podcasting history.

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Speaker 1: This is the hot seat. We ask you a question,

782
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Speaker 1: you just hit us right back. Don't give any long

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Speaker 1: winded answers. Just be concise and quick so we can

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Speaker 1: keep it moving. And if you and if you take time,

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Speaker 1: even if we ask you to expand, we will be

786
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Speaker 1: rude to you about it because the rules are confusing

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Speaker 1: in this segment. But that's for comedic purposes. You ready,

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Speaker 1: ready me?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm read tecon to Jack? Yeah? You ready? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: All right, professor, let's go. Okay, it would go block.

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Speaker 1: Oh this is gonna be a quick one too. All right,

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Speaker 1: here we go.

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Speaker 2: Jack.

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Speaker 1: You want to go first or I go first?

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Speaker 2: Why don't you go first?

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Speaker 4: Mile?

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna go first. First question. So, this meme

799
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: has been being posted and some of the listeners in

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00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: our discord have been positing this question. What is the

801
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: worst feeling as a hooper getting dunked on, missing a

802
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: game winning shot, air balling a shot, or getting crossed

803
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: up like Jesus on Easter Sunday?

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Speaker 2: Getting dunked on is the worst feeling? Getting dunked on?

805
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: All that's all happened to me, But getting dunked on?

806
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: What if I know? It's getting blocked, like just getting

807
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: absolutely stuffed?

808
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 2: Is I got blocked?

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00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 4: I got I got stuffed at the rim, like I

810
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 4: went for I went for a dunk and yeah had

811
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Speaker 4: no Yeah, I mean I had a lot of dunk

812
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: that season. But it was just kind of like getting

813
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 4: met at the rim. It was I was shocked because

814
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: I thought I could overpower it and it just physics.

815
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 4: But he was a cuff and he came down and

816
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: that was like, all right, I just got like a

817
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 4: little boy. I feel like little boy.

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Speaker 1: That was right right, Suddenly like your jersey and shorts

819
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Speaker 1: get all big on you.

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Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, it was like I was on my league.

821
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, right, right right.

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Speaker 2: I liked getting dunked on. I got dunked on twelve

823
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: times in a game by Dan Gadzurich. We didn't have

824
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 2: enough size, and I, uh, oh, my god, explode was

825
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: like jumping on a grenade. The way I exploded backwards

826
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 2: every time he dunked on me. I enjoyed that. I was.

827
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Speaker 2: I would say getting crossed is pretty humiliating. Happened to

828
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Speaker 2: me too.

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Speaker 4: I feel, oh, yeah, your legs or something just like

830
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 4: I actually just my feet went together like I like slide,

831
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, I was sliding, but like it was so

832
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Speaker 4: quick that I was just like, oh, I like and

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Speaker 4: then I was like I was. I mean, I'm a

834
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Speaker 4: good sport about it, because when you're playing defense hard,

835
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 4: that's gonna happen. Same thing trying to block stuff you

836
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Speaker 4: get dunked on, like it's it doesn't happen, you know

837
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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like I'm a help side blocker. Sorry,

838
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Speaker 4: I'm Callton. You know the Jordan's post, I mean the

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Speaker 4: Starks poster.

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Speaker 2: Kind of yeah, mad, yeah right, yeah, all right, which

841
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 2: three nineties guards would you want to see in today's game?

842
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:35,840
Speaker 2: Chris Jackson? Mm hmm, great answer. And maybe a healthy

843
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,399
Speaker 2: Ron Harper. Yeah, pre neat knee round Ron Harper something

844
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah. I actually no, Baron Davis late oh yeah, yeah,

845
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: yeah he late nineties, but Baron Davis, yeah he's two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Kind yeah yeah, okay. Question. We've been asking a lot

847
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: of people who's winning the battle of Team USA, the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four squad or the two thousand and eight squad.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna go with the current team. I do respect

850
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: this team, though I do respect the Kobe team. I

851
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 4: think like they're gonna make the other team is probably

852
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: going you know what, I'm gonna roll with Kobe in them,

853
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 4: because Okay, they're just a little bit more disciplined, you

854
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean, Like right, yeah, and and and

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Speaker 4: also the Bronze of the world is the A d

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Speaker 4: A the aes you know what I'm saying, Like he's

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Speaker 4: in an AE roll.

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Speaker 2: So I like a young, spry Bron versus a veteran Bron.

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Speaker 4: And like Kobe still, I was like thirty some years

860
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 4: old in that role as the defender, you know.

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00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: What I mean, like lockdown Committee, you.

862
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 4: Know, Dwight Howard in his prime, Like that's not bad

863
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: back tout Dwight Howard, that's grab.

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Speaker 2: It out the air, start to break. J Kid running

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Speaker 2: at you full time like d Will. Yeah, nah, I'll

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Speaker 2: take it there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like that's the answer we all come to.

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Speaker 1: We're like, yeah, I mean this team. And then you're

869
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: like you're looking like wait, hold on, no, no, two

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Speaker 1: thousands because on paper.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, you're not people.

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Speaker 4: You just say Lebron James, but you're not factoring in

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Speaker 4: thirty nine year old Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: I like five years in the league, Lebron James. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's very different, very different.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, that is the correct answer. Finally, we've

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Speaker 2: seen teams like Memphis, Okay see in Orlando each take

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Speaker 2: that next step over the last few years. Can you

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Speaker 2: give us a team or two. We'll let you give

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Speaker 2: us two that you expect to do the same next season. Utah.

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Speaker 2: Utah is not a name that I expected to hear. Utah, Well,

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Speaker 2: what is it about Utah? Because I get rid of marketing.

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Speaker 4: They just haven't touched the playoffs yet, but I'd like

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Speaker 4: that they're like, actually, you know what if we're talking

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Speaker 4: about making it because you're you're mentioning teams that are

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Speaker 4: now in the playoffs and are considered playoff and rebuilt.

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Speaker 2: Or go Houston Rockets, right Houston. Yeah, that's the that's

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Speaker 2: the safe answer. But sure, I like you. We'll talk

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Speaker 2: about Utar is very young.

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Speaker 4: They drafted really well, Denny and just up to something

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Speaker 4: for the future and just really trying to like clear

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Speaker 4: the house, you know what I mean, get all those

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Speaker 4: bad contracts out, and you know, they got Yonce George.

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Speaker 4: You know I'm bringing over because they bringing over some

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Speaker 4: guys man that that that really not played the game

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Speaker 4: the right way. So look out for them, you know,

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Speaker 4: because they play hard and they compete, so I'm with

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Speaker 4: it nice.

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Speaker 1: Well, those were all the correct answers to Von Edwards.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining you Mile Jack got

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Speaker 1: mad Boosties? Where do the people find you? Follow you

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Speaker 1: hear you all that kind.

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Speaker 4: Of good stuff at travn on x slash Twitter and

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Speaker 4: then at Ravon Edwards on Instagram and breads.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, make sure you follow the hashtag mad Boosty's

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Speaker 1: But you can also find the link for that when

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Speaker 2: I'm at Miles of Great, I'm at Jack underscore O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: And that was another another.

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Speaker 1: Episode that was one three one two three. It's Miles

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Speaker 1: and Jack.

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Speaker 2: O b e e uh.

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Speaker 1: That one worked out pretty well. Actually, I we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next week when we'll be talking a little bit

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Speaker 1: more about tam Usa as things begin to really heap up.

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Speaker 2: Thanks great email, Yeah, no problem. Bye bye