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Speaker 2: parking lot. What's up the general nation? Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Big Bets on Campus Podcast. This is the College Basketball

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Speaker 2: Conference Tournament Betting Preview, Part four. I'm stuck you in

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Speaker 2: joining me today fellow BBC Coast tanemcgrath. Today we will

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Speaker 2: get to the America East, which is primarily why Tanner

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Speaker 2: is here, the Big Sky. And then at the end,

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Speaker 2: Mike cal Riese will share his thoughts on the Southland

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Speaker 2: and whether or not it's just day McNeese state coordination.

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Speaker 2: They are minus five point fifty to win the league,

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Speaker 2: which is played on their home court. I was trying

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Speaker 2: to look up the highest the biggest favorite ever was

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Speaker 2: tweeting about it. I think one I that comes to

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Speaker 2: mind was Gonzaga in twenty twenty one. They were like

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Speaker 2: minus twelve hundred to win it. That dominant team ended

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Speaker 2: up winning it. I think both games and that format

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Speaker 2: is very conducive. Same with the Southland to the top seed.

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Speaker 2: They ended up beating BYU who was decent that here

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Speaker 2: by ten and the final Mary's was pretty down compared

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Speaker 2: to some of their years. And then you brought up Vermont.

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Speaker 1: In twenty two. Yeah they were I think.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, McNeese isn't isn't the biggest favorite ever,

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Speaker 2: but they are up there. Let's well, we'll save the

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Speaker 2: best for last. We'll save the Americas for last. Let's

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Speaker 2: start in the sky, which will take place between March

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Speaker 2: eighth and twelfth, kicks off on what Saturday, I believe

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Speaker 2: is that Saturday?

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Speaker 1: That's sound Yeah, I'm losing dressed.

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Speaker 2: Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Playing games are Saturday, and then the quarterfinals are Sunday

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Speaker 1: and Monday.

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Speaker 2: YEP Championship on the twelfth. All these games will be

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Speaker 2: held in Boise, Idaho, and all ten teams make it.

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Speaker 2: The top six get a bye to the quarters, which,

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Speaker 2: as you mentioned, are played on Sunday and Monday. The

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Speaker 2: first round games are Weaver State, Sacramento State, and Northern

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Speaker 2: Arizona against Eastern Washington. Top overall seed. Northern Colorado is

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Speaker 2: the favorite or plus one thirty five just looking at

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Speaker 2: one book here. Montana is the two seed there plus

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Speaker 2: two to ten Portland State, the three to one Montana State,

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Speaker 2: eight to one Idaho State plus nine fifty. That's the

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Speaker 2: four or five matchup Montana State in Idaho State. And

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Speaker 2: then you get into some very big long shots, including

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Speaker 2: And then you have some of your dregs of the league.

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Speaker 2: Northern Arizona, easton Washington, Weaver State. Sacramento State is beyond hard.

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Speaker 2: They're two fifty to one to win this league. So

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Speaker 2: let's let me see where where do we want to

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Speaker 2: I don't have any interest in the bottom four that

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Speaker 2: just mentioned at Sacramento State. They're very very bad, very

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Speaker 2: They did split with Weaber State during the regular season.

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Speaker 2: That's the first round matchup Weaber State. Blaze three is

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Speaker 2: I just don't they just don't have the defense, and

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Speaker 2: So I don't think any of our threat to win

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only thing is, like, so is

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Speaker 2: think is gonna win this league? I think it's Montana. Agree.

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Speaker 2: I think they are the best team.

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Speaker 2: And if you look there since January twentieth, they're eleven

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Speaker 2: Their ninety fourth nationally, Northern Colorado the one seed is

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Speaker 2: Their only loss was at Portland State in a game

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Speaker 1: They're okay in aerior defense, but yeah, across the yeah,

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Speaker 2: A lot well and they got cooked at home by

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Speaker 2: I prefer Montana. And look, Montana theoretically seed wise has

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Speaker 2: and I think that really neuters Portland State's upside and

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Speaker 1: Is super overvalued in my opinion. I mean, opponents shot

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you that I agree. I don't want any

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Speaker 2: and then I would like Montana against Northern Colorado. But

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Speaker 2: I don't see any value in the scenes. But I'll

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Speaker 2: we'll get to the I think the most intriguing matchup

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Speaker 2: I had hope. For what it's worth, who plays Portland State.

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Speaker 2: Super inexperienced team. They're very young, they got a decent offense,

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Speaker 2: they will chuck threes, so like they have some some

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Speaker 2: They played no defense. They were swept by both Montana

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you on all accounts. If you

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Speaker 1: I love how coach Travis you know, runs that offense.

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Speaker 1: They lost by seven at home despite shooting thirty eight

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what's going on with Montana State,

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Speaker 2: I do love Darling, and I do think that both

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Speaker 1: I think they're a great team in a tournament setting

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the America East, your beloved league,

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Speaker 2: and there's a lot. There's a lot to talk about

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, honestly, I mean the Big.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they've been blown out in the past.

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Speaker 2: Wait, there were some Montana teams that used to be good.

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Speaker 2: Did Montana beat BC in overtime one year? This is

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Speaker 1: They've been blown out every year for the past fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: It's good. I can't I can't find updating that Montana's

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Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait wait wait wait. Montana beat Nevada in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't find another one that seems right.

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Speaker 2: Yep. Nineteen seventy five Montana made the round of thirty

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Speaker 2: and for what it's worth, the Americans Tournament eight teams

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Speaker 1: Who did win?

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about them in just a moment. Bryant is

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Speaker 2: They're even money to win this. They start with UNBC,

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Speaker 1: Right, not just Johnson, but I think of Dunu too.

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Speaker 1: going to play in this game. I haven't heard an

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Speaker 1: update since then. All I know is that he is

436
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Speaker 1: okay Odunomo ankle injury. I'm also going to assume he's

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Speaker 1: out for this game, but I can't be one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent sure.

439
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Speaker 2: But I'm leaning for defense. They're already lacking defense.

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Speaker 1: Right Yeah, I mean, so Oduma, like the entire teams

441
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: is awful at defense. None of them can defend, and

442
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: Odunu can kind of defend down low, but he's small.

443
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Speaker 1: But all of a sudden, then you take him out

444
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Speaker 1: and you put in Louis Jordan, who is a lifeless

445
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 1: interior defender who is just as small, but he does

446
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: kind of shoot the three. So all of a sudden,

447
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: the UNBC scores like crazy. Let's talk about Bryant, though,

448
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: the more important team. You're right, the rightful, rightful favorites

449
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: in this tournament. They're minus one ten for a reason,

450
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Speaker 1: first regular season champ other than Vermont since twenty sixteen,

451
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Speaker 1: and it's yeah, it's all about length, size and athleticism.

452
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: There every starter stands over six foot six. They're all

453
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Speaker 1: lead off the bounce, they all can handle the rock.

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Speaker 1: They're laterally and vertically mobile, most of them can shoot.

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Speaker 1: They have more versatility than like any mid major low

456
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Speaker 1: major team. I mean, Earl Timberlake is among the best

457
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Speaker 1: point forwards in the country. Barry Evans has been shockingly

458
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Speaker 1: athletic all year, especially off the bounce. Connor Withers has

459
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Speaker 1: put it together as a three and D guy. The

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Speaker 1: center rotation of Kevon Kramer and Keishawn Mitchell have held

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Speaker 1: their own while providing no shortage of athletic highlights. The

462
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Speaker 1: biggest advantage they have is their shot volume. Monsters, they

463
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: lead the league in offensive turnover offensive turnover rate. They

464
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Speaker 1: leverage their athleticism into tons of offensive rebounds. Their plus

465
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,880
Speaker 1: one to forty rebounding plus turnover differential and conference play

466
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Speaker 1: is double the second place team. And on the defensive end,

467
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Speaker 1: they leverage that versatility into switchability, so they switch everything.

468
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Speaker 1: They deny catching shrewed opportunities. They isolation in rim funnel,

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Speaker 1: and then they turn that into verticality where they just

470
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Speaker 1: block everything at the rim. I mean, they had a

471
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Speaker 1: twenty percent block rate in league play. It's insane, and

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Speaker 1: part of the reason why Timberlake is so good is

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Speaker 1: just how good of a defensive player he is as well.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he blocked two shots per game to go

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Speaker 1: along with his fourteen, ten and five line. He was

476
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Speaker 1: great and nicely switched on the perimeter, well held up

477
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Speaker 1: in post up defense. He was a do it all guy.

478
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Speaker 1: In my pick for Conference Player of the Year with Bryant,

479
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Speaker 1: I guess I have two questions. I mean, I still

480
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: have questions about their offensive execution. They're super reliant on

481
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: Raphael pen zones shooting and spacing, and the offense shrivels

482
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Speaker 1: when he's not in the court. I mean, their offensive

483
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Speaker 1: rating drops nineteen points without him because they rely so

484
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Speaker 1: heavily on mismatch hunting by isolation and handoff sets, and

485
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Speaker 1: so they end up at the mid range a lot,

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Speaker 1: and without Pinzone out there to kind of stretch out

487
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Speaker 1: the defense, they get stuck in crowded lanes taking runners

488
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Speaker 1: and hook shots in the middle of the court. But

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Speaker 1: I will say that Phil Martelli Junior has done just

490
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Speaker 1: an amazing job. In the wake of Jared Grasso's dismissal.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people forget that Martelli took over the

492
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Speaker 1: program like a week before last season started, and he

493
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Speaker 1: transformed the defense in a year, just from switching from

494
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Speaker 1: Grasso's passive zones key to this aggressive switching, paint swarming denial.

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Speaker 1: And I've seen Martell mix in a lot more floppy

496
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Speaker 1: and curl sets in the half court, which I really

497
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Speaker 1: like for this unique group of wing talent, and hopefully

498
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Speaker 1: they lean more into that in half court creation because

499
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: they're still relatively inefficient and transition offense, which is weird

500
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Speaker 1: for a team that loves to push. Second question I

501
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Speaker 1: have is did they peak too early? They posted a

502
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Speaker 1: plus twenty five net rating in the first eight legs

503
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Speaker 1: of that double round robin. That number dropped a plus

504
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: twelve in the second, and that number would have been

505
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: a lot lower if they didn't obliterate New Hampshire. And

506
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Speaker 1: in the regular season finale, I thought, you know you

507
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: talked about UNBC. They did a great job of leveraging

508
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Speaker 1: their smaller guards in their attacking kick, put everyone in

509
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Speaker 1: rotation scheme to take advantage of Bryant's rim funneling without

510
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Speaker 1: getting blocked at the rim. They kind of used their

511
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Speaker 1: craftiness down low, and that seems like the way to

512
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Speaker 1: beat Brian's defense. Then again, Bryant did shoot twenty eight

513
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Speaker 1: percent from three down those on those final eight games,

514
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Speaker 1: so they were a little unlucky. It still went six

515
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Speaker 1: and two. It'll be really hard to be Bryant. I mean,

516
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Speaker 1: they're amazing, but I don't think they're immune to getting

517
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Speaker 1: picked off. I mean, their first round matchup against the

518
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Speaker 1: Retrievers could be tough. I mean, even though they're they're

519
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: not healthy unfortunately, but played them both, played them tough

520
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Speaker 1: both times. Like you said, so Brian's the rightful favorite,

521
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Speaker 1: but I don't think they're a prohibitive favorite so to speak.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they will get home court adventage. They're even money.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's a gregious price. I don't see value. Yeah,

524
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Speaker 2: I don't see any I'm not running to vett it.

525
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: They will get to play all their games at home

526
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Speaker 2: UNBC dealing with injuries. But let's oh, by the way,

527
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Speaker 2: if Brian does end up winning this league, off the

528
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Speaker 2: top of your head, put you on a spot here,

529
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Speaker 2: like you don't have the name a specific team, Like

530
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Speaker 2: what type of team would you want to either bet

531
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Speaker 2: them or to can you know see them maybe giving

532
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 2: a scare or pulling off an upset, It won't happen.

533
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 1: But I like the matchup against Auburn a lot. Auburn

534
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: struggles on the defense of glass. Brian could take advantage

535
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Speaker 1: of it. Auburn is a rim reliant, flex motion offense.

536
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Brian likes to play at the rim on defense. I

537
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Speaker 1: think that Brian could stay within a twenty five point

538
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Speaker 1: spread against Auburn. Absolutely.

539
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Speaker 2: I kind of like that matchup. Are you calling for

540
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: the outright UNBC upset?

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Speaker 1: I wish, but not this year. Man. You said it

542
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Speaker 1: down here. It just kind of sucks. I thought we

543
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: were going to be really good, but we were bad

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Speaker 1: from the jump.

545
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Speaker 2: Really well, you know, it was bad from the jump

546
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Speaker 2: until recently was Vermont and Dave really turned it around.

547
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Speaker 2: This is the team that was really struggling. And just

548
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Speaker 2: to illustrate how much better Vermont has been since February first,

549
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Speaker 2: you mentioned kind of the late season swoon for Brian.

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Speaker 2: Since February first, Brian seven and two, one hundred and

551
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Speaker 2: ninety nine for Torvik, Vermont nine to zero, one hundred

552
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Speaker 2: and seventeenth in the country. Now part of that, Briant

553
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: shot thirty percent from three Vermont shot close to thirty

554
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Speaker 2: eight percent, which they didn't come close to all year.

555
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Speaker 2: The other thing with Vermont, so I'll just ask you

556
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Speaker 2: straight up. And Vermont, by the way, they are the

557
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Speaker 2: two seed. They will start at home with New Hampshire.

558
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Speaker 2: Vermont's plus one seventy though the second favorite here New Hampshire.

559
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: They're just not probably not going to score. They think

560
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 2: they got destroyed by Vermont and both. So like, I

561
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Speaker 2: don't think Vermont's had any threat of losing that game.

562
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Speaker 2: But is this turnaround for Vermont real? Is Bogues shmir Bogues?

563
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Speaker 2: Is he out? And how important is he? What are

564
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Speaker 2: your thoughts on your Catamounts?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for anyone listening that hasn't listened to this episode

566
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Speaker 1: in the past, I am from Vermont. I'm a Catamount superfan,

567
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Speaker 1: and I love this team and their turnaround is unbiasedly

568
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: one hundred percent reel. Since their season swung entirely on

569
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Speaker 1: February first, they did two things. First, they fixed their

570
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Speaker 1: rebounding and turnover issues. So as a down tempo, five out,

571
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Speaker 1: low value, low volume but high efficiency team, losing the

572
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Speaker 1: shot volume battle is a death sentence in those game scripts.

573
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Speaker 1: But once they started rebounding and not turning the ball over.

574
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Speaker 1: They evened out the shot volume battle while beginning to

575
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Speaker 1: dictate the pace again, and the second half of the

576
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Speaker 1: season gave us some of the most classic John Becker

577
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Speaker 1: specials that I've seen, and he, you know, just totally

578
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Speaker 1: turned the season around again like he's done so many times.

579
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Speaker 1: But they slowed everyone down. They mucked up every game,

580
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: and they leaned on their super disciplined defense, which is

581
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Speaker 1: an elite unit because Oliri aofil A, patrols the paint

582
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Speaker 1: and blocks two shots a game. Nick Fiorello, who I've

583
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: been really hard on in the past, has really improved

584
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: his interior defense this year and I've just been so

585
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: impressed with him. He's been a total stud as the

586
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Speaker 1: fifth year leader.

587
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Speaker 2: Of this team.

588
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Speaker 1: But they they play really compact but behind those two

589
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Speaker 1: and you know, they allow nothing on the interior. They

590
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: just twenty paint points per game allowed over their final

591
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Speaker 1: five games. Meanwhile, on the perimeter, as you mentioned, Shmir

592
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Speaker 1: Bogues is still among the best on ball perimeter defenders

593
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Speaker 1: in the mid majors, and they were able to leverage

594
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Speaker 1: their super lengthy guard corps to contest everything despite playing

595
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: so compact over seventy percent of opposing catch and shoot

596
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: opportunities regarded. That's the third highest marked nationally, which is

597
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: so surprising when you consider they just pack it in.

598
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Speaker 1: It's a great balance that they have. Second thing that

599
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: they did right. They started running the entire offense through

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Speaker 1: TJ Hurley, who has been nothing but tremendous stepping up

601
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Speaker 1: in the absence of TJ.

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Speaker 2: Long.

603
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Speaker 1: He averaged nearly twenty points per game over the second

604
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Speaker 1: half of the season while shooting nearly thirty or fifty

605
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Speaker 1: percent from deep on like eight attempts per game. He

606
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 1: was amazing creating his own shot from anywhere on the court.

607
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: His usage rate skyrocketed, but it didn't hurt his efficiency

608
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: at all. He was a first team All Conference guy

609
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: as a top scoring option, and I'm so proud of

610
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Speaker 1: his development. He's Canadian, by the way. I shout out

611
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Speaker 1: to him and his dad and Mike. I met them

612
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: in RJ's last year in Burlington. But he saved this offense,

613
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: which was the league's best in January. As you mentioned,

614
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Speaker 1: John Becker did a tremendous job turning this ship around.

615
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Speaker 1: Like you said, they've been perfect since February with the

616
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: best offensive and defensive efficiency marks in the league. But

617
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Speaker 1: the elephant in the room, Shmier Bogs is hurt went

618
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: down against the NBC didn't play in the regular season finale.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how hurt he is, but at the time,

620
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Speaker 1: it seems really it seems really bad. Looked bad from

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Speaker 1: what I was hearing from inside the program. It was bad.

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Speaker 2: That said.

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Speaker 1: The most recent update I got is said he's a

624
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 1: game time decision for Saturday, and that he's increasingly optimistic

625
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 1: quote unquote for the playoffs. He's played through injuries before,

626
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: and he's yeah, and he's played through inentries before often admirably.

627
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: He's a really tough guy. But I am worried nonetheless.

628
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Speaker 1: I mean, his defense at the point of attack is

629
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Speaker 1: basically irreplaceable. His on ball, dribble and interior creation is

630
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: basically irreplaceable. And he's been shooting closer to forty percent

631
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Speaker 1: from three in the second half of the year, which

632
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: is huge for a team that had spacing and shot

633
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:15,600
Speaker 1: making issues for the entire season. He's been He's one

634
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: of the two most important players on this team, you know,

635
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: both ways, so you have two options in his in

636
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: his stead. Basically The first is Jace Rockimore, who I've

637
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: always really liked. He's a steady ball handler, steady second

638
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: string table setter, he does all the little defensive things right.

639
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: His jumper broke this year. I don't know what happened.

640
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: You didn't hit a three for three months. He's course

641
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: corrected a bit in recent weeks, but he needs to

642
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: hit some jumpers badly for this five out offense to

643
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: stay alive without Bogues. The second option is Sean Blake,

644
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 1: who freshman guard wicked high upside. He is very explosive,

645
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: great off the bounds, can shoot the three, but he's

646
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,879
Speaker 1: also a freshman so he makes dumbfouted mistakes all the time,

647
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: consistently throws the ball away, and although he's been a

648
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 1: sneaky good defender at times, for his small stature, they

649
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: kind of hide him where he can. Like you know,

650
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: Neither of these options is nearly as gifted defensively as Bogues,

651
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: so I don't know what's going to happen if Bogues

652
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: is out. The only thing I can say is that

653
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: they could. I think Rocke, Moore and Blake could maybe

654
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: recreate his offense. I don't think they can recreate his defense.

655
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: So I might actually bet some catamount overs in this tournament.

656
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean, in the last two games where both missed

657
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: one and a half over, Hey, the offense looks better, man,

658
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: And I know, I just I'm.

659
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm thinking back to just every Vermond team I ever

660
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 2: watched in my life.

661
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's a big grinded down. But Becker

662
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: also has been more willing this year to, like when

663
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: things get ugly, start pressing, you know, grabbing more offensive rebounds,

664
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: pushing the pace, forcing turnovers, mixing him more press zone.

665
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: But those are my catamount thoughts. I would consider betting

666
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: them over Brian if I knew Bogues was he healthy.

667
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: But I don't without that certainty. With that uncertainty, it's

668
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: a pass pretty much. Okay, let's let's go back up

669
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: at the top half the bracket, Bryant new NBC. We

670
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 2: mentioned that's the one to eight, the four five, and

671
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter which where do we go because

672
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: they've reced. But the four or five is Brian Albany

673
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 2: hosting Bighamton Albany sixteen to one to win this league.

674
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 2: Bighamton is fifty to one to win the conference tournament. Albany.

675
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: The question with the Great Danes. Another injury question is

676
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: Neil is justin neely playing he's important? Yeah, I've heard,

677
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: well my practicing right, I just started saw tweak that

678
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: he was practicing, and he's practicing.

679
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: Guy. My source said he was going to play in

680
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,439
Speaker 1: the regular season finale, and then I guess he ended

681
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 1: up sitting out, probably for precautionary reasons. I don't, Yeah,

682
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that game actually meant much

683
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: in terms of seeding. So I'm going to assume that

684
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: he's in as of now.

685
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: Okay, let's assume that he is in. What are your

686
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: thoughts on Aubany and or this matchup with bing Winton.

687
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I didn't love any first round matchup that much.

688
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: We've talked about just injury issues across the board fromont UNBC.

689
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,520
Speaker 1: You could probably you could maybe take Lowell in that

690
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: game against Man, but we'll talk about them in a second.

691
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: But we're going to get the low Yeah.

692
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: When the bracket opened and I saw that Albany was

693
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: hosting Binghamton, I was pretty excited about potentially backing the Danes.

694
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: I think the line might open a little bit higher

695
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: than I want. I think they're projected minus six, but

696
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: if we can get a decent line, maybe we can

697
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: get five. I would love to hop on the Danes

698
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,359
Speaker 1: because I've been high on them all year. I love

699
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: how athletic they are. Yeah, yeah, I love top scorer

700
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: on Mari Marshall. Byron Joshua is small, but he's been

701
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: awesome running point for them. Tamar Langford is an absolute

702
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: weapon as a bully ball post up wing. They are

703
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: shot volume monsters. They're the second best shot volume team

704
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: in the league behind Bryant. They crashed the boards, they

705
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 1: don't turn the ball over thanks to Joshua, and they

706
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: forced plenty of turnovers. They never really put it together

707
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: this year because of really four reasons. One injuries they

708
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: were on and off injured. Two non exist in interior

709
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839
Speaker 1: defense behind no size in a drop covered scheme. Three

710
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: they had some tough shoot Yeah, they had some tough

711
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: shooting luck. I mean, especially for Marshall, who has always

712
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: been a good shooter and shot like twenty eight percent

713
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: from three for most of the year. And finally, bad

714
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: coaching Dwayne Killings is kind of a nightmare, especially in

715
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 1: in game situations. So that said, they started to put

716
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: things together down the stretch. They won four of their

717
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 1: final six. They ranked third in the America East and

718
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: net rating during that stretch. Their interior defense was like

719
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: surprisingly good. They ranked third and paints points per game allowed.

720
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: Over the final five, they started rebounding much better, and

721
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: they did okay at not fouling, which they're usually a

722
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: disaster at. They got fraud Ford I think his name's

723
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Battista Jireau on anyways, he got him on the court

724
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,720
Speaker 1: more often. He provides some actual size as a seven footer,

725
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: and that's it's it's all surprising considering their final five

726
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: conference opponent's shot forty percent from deep. So that interior defense,

727
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: those improvements there are going to be super important against Binghamton,

728
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 1: which is an uber rim reliant, cut, heavy, downhill driving

729
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: offense behind a bevy of just monstrous wings like Timeus Sheenery,

730
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,840
Speaker 1: Gavin Walsh, Chris Walker, et cetera. And they get to

731
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: the line of Ton. So hopefully alban you can avoid that.

732
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: But of greater importance, Dinghampton doesn't have a point guard

733
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: right now since Jaden Lemon went down earlier in the year,

734
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: so they've had they've run into this massive turnover issue

735
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: because they're running the entire offense through the wings as

736
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 1: ball handlers, specifically Shenery who.

737
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: Night.

738
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's been a good facilitator. But they're just

739
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: throwing the ball away constantly, and that's going to be

740
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 1: a problem. It gets Albany's press happy scheme and it's

741
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 1: going to fuel the Danes up tempo attack, right. I mean,

742
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 1: I think across the two matchups, let's see here. Yeah,

743
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 1: Binghamton threw the ball away thirty six times and all,

744
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: but he scored thirty four points on thirty two transition possessions.

745
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: So even though I'm not like fully convinced in allbody's

746
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: half court offense against Binghamton's defense, if they can force turnovers,

747
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: hang on the defensive interior and then live in transition,

748
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: I really like this matchup for the trending upwards Danes.

749
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: And like, I'm just not sold on Binghamton. I mean,

750
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: their entire season like swung on shooting variants. They got

751
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: cooked on defensive shooting variants early in the year and

752
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: started one to five. Then everything swung too far the

753
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: other way and they won six of eight, and then

754
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: everything swung back in the final two games where they

755
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: were blown out by Lowell and lost out right at home.

756
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,719
Speaker 1: They're lowly and jiit. Lavelle Sanders did a pretty good

757
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 1: job with this group on the whole. I think he's

758
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: a good coach, but I don't think they ever found

759
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: a good all around balance. I never really liked their

760
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: dribble defense. I think their flat footed. I think they

761
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: can be dynamic at offense at times, but they don't

762
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: feel like a team that's good in spacing and shooting.

763
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: So I see, I see the path for Albany winning

764
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: this one by double digits.

765
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 2: Basically, I would tend great. Do you see any upside

766
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: with Albany and war value at sixteen to one? They

767
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,240
Speaker 2: did win at Brian.

768
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: They wanted Brian when pinzone went down in the second

769
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: half and I'm and look like allbod he played amazing

770
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: defense in that game. That was incredible.

771
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: What probably would you rather have, say you had an

772
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 2: Albany ticket, would you rather have them go to Vermont

773
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: or to Briant?

774
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: To Briant? And the reason why is because Vermont it's

775
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: so so disciplined on the defensive glass and they never

776
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: turned the ball over. And if you Albany needs they

777
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: need turnovers and they need offensive rebounds to compete, which

778
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 1: gives a high floor. But also I just I don't

779
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: trust killings like I love the upside for the for

780
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: this team, but they never reached it. And I kind

781
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: of doubt that they're going to start hitting shots now,

782
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: even though they started to shoot a little bit better

783
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 1: down the stretch, but they're just so bad at their spacing.

784
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: They're so relying on bullyball from Neely and Casper and Langford.

785
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: So I would rather have the ticket that we should

786
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: talk about.

787
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: Now, all right, So let's get to the three to

788
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 2: six matchup. Maine will host u mass Lowell, who the

789
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: river Hawks have been absolutely cursed all year long, and

790
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 2: this will be a rematch of a game that we

791
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: just saw at Maine. It'll be right back in a rono.

792
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that right to people, say rono or

793
00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: no or no. I've always been pronouncing it wrong. Ye,

794
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: added to the list of uh yeah, I get so

795
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 2: much slack for Mary Mac. So they just played and

796
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 2: you're never going to guess what happened, never gonna guess

797
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: made one by one and you're never going to guess

798
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: what happened in the first meeting, made one by one

799
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:23,439
Speaker 2: in overtime, and you're never going to guess what happened

800
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: to ums Low all year long. They lost by one,

801
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 2: they lost, They lost to Albany by two in overtime.

802
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: They lost a New Hampshire by one. They lost to

803
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 2: Bryant by one on a horrendous falcoll at the buzzer

804
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 2: that this team easily could have finished much higher in

805
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: the standings. I think this would be a good chance

806
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: for them to hit the reset button. They are still

807
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: super experienced. They still have a ton of talent on

808
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 2: this team with Brooks and Mincy senior laden outside of

809
00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: the point guard spot. By the way, it is Quincy

810
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 2: walk out for the year.

811
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that in a second.

812
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 2: But yes, but I think that they might be better

813
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: without him.

814
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: They're much better without him.

815
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, So like I think that that's a good thing,

816
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: that he's not bad and because you don't worry about depth,

817
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: they don't have any depth. But like I mentioned, they

818
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: play Saturday, uh, then midweek and then Saturday again. If

819
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 2: they're going to win this tournament, I think that and

820
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: now if they win, you got to keep in mind

821
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: when you're looking at the bracket. It's it messing with

822
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 2: your brain. But if they win, they're gonna play Brian,

823
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 2: and unless Brian loses to the U NBC, but they're

824
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: gonna play the highest remaining seed because they're the seven.

825
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: But against Brian, I mean they they can play their

826
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: game again. So now the US old defense stinks, it's

827
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 2: not good, but they their offense is very good and

828
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: they can play their game against Brian. Try to win

829
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: a game in the eighties and they should have confident.

830
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: I mean, they they should have just beat Brian. It

831
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: wasn't their home court, but they they literally did beat them,

832
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: and then they were yeah worst. Yeah. So you and

833
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 2: I both played U mass low is twenty two to one,

834
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: still out there. There was a thirty to one that

835
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: I missed that was out there all right, so we

836
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 2: both played it. What are your thoughts? Number one? I

837
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 2: also think it's actually maybe an advantage for them for

838
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: you Massol to play Maine again right back on the

839
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: same court. Main is unique defense, so and turnovers are

840
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 2: an issue for U mass level, So I think that

841
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: that familiarity playing this team again at the same I

842
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 2: think that that could help them. But what are your

843
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 2: thoughts on number one. This matchup Maine the river Hawks.

844
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: I'll let you kind of ramble away there.

845
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lowell's the pick to win the tournament. They're going

846
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 1: to turn I think they're going to turn it around.

847
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: I think they're going to make a movie about this

848
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 1: team called three Days in March. I got like I said,

849
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: I got them thirty to one. I think twenty or

850
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: one is better. I think that price is way too long.

851
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 1: I think it's crazy now. Pat Duqutt coach Patrickett is

852
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 1: rightfully taken a lot of shit for how he handled

853
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 1: things this year. Quincy Clark, he quit on the team.

854
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: He stormed out and practice one day and never came back.

855
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: Makai gray Ford transfer from Njiit quit on the team,

856
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: never came back. I don't know why Cale Murphy doesn't

857
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: get more run at point. There are some crazy rumors

858
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: out there about how he handled the end of the

859
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: Connor Withers tenure and this entire team. I don't think

860
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: they like each other. I don't think there any of

861
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,560
Speaker 1: them are coming back next year. I mean, I know

862
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: a lot of them are seniors, but I think there's

863
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: one kid, Anthony Blunt, that might be coming back. That

864
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: set Lowell has shortened this rotation. They're playing six guys

865
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: sometimes seven, But I think they're just they're playing tougher now.

866
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they cut some of the fat

867
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 1: and some of the chemistry and continuity issues, even if

868
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't in the most delicate of fashions. Their biggest

869
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: issue early in the conference season was pure effort, particularly

870
00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,360
Speaker 1: in fifty to fifty balls, but really on the boards

871
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: where they were destroyed both ways. But they've looked tougher

872
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: rebounding lately. They're plus twenty and rebounding differential over the

873
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: past five games, the third in the league in defensive

874
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: rebounding rates since February, which includes Vermont. You know who's

875
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: like the best defensive redounding team in the nation. They

876
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 1: more importantly, as you mentioned, they are an elite, elite

877
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,319
Speaker 1: offense with loads of talent. They still run a lot

878
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: of flex motion stuff where Max Brooks and Can Morris

879
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 1: just hammer the rim. Quentin Mincy arguably the best three

880
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: level scoring forward in the conference. He's averaging over twenty

881
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: points per game over his last five and all three

882
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: of those guys will just post you up on the

883
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: block and take you. But they've added a legit perimeter

884
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,479
Speaker 1: offensive threat in Martin Summerville the eleven time America East

885
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: Freshman of the Week, which is a record. By the

886
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: way high major scoring guard. I'm serious, he will be

887
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: a high major transfer next year. Masquerading as a River Hawk.

888
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: He's a stud ballscreen orchestrator, turning into the table setter

889
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 1: that this offensive needed. He's averaging over seven assists per

890
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: game in his past five. He dropped a program record

891
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: thirteen dimes against NBC, and he shoots forty percent from three.

892
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: That gives the river Hawks like three elite shooters. If

893
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: you throw in Mincy gury Cupen in Summerville to combine

894
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: with three elite interior big men threats and a legit

895
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: point guard, they are an awesome offense. But of course

896
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: you mentioned awful defense. They run drop coverage stuff, so

897
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: they funnel on ball creation into the middle of the court,

898
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 1: but they do nothing to stop the dribble because Covington

899
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: and Summerville are small, exploitable perimeter defenders. Brooks is an

900
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,720
Speaker 1: amazing interior defender, but Mincey and Morris are super vulnerable

901
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: in that area, so their rim defense kind of sucks. Overall,

902
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: that said, the drop still denies the three well, and

903
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: they don't foul, which is really important when they're running

904
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: such a short rotation on top of the extra restaurant

905
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: that you talked about. And I actually think their transition

906
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: defense has improved a ton recently, which I think will

907
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 1: help with their likely path being Maine and then Bryant.

908
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: And if you put it all together, Lowell posted the

909
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: league's third best efficiency mark in February, league's second best offense.

910
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 1: They rank six nationally an effective field goal percentage over

911
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: the past seven games. They're scoring at will even if

912
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: their defense sucks. They're doing a few things right on

913
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: that end where they can't. They could win every game

914
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 1: ninety to eighty nine, and they could be due for

915
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: some positive.

916
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 2: Regression on win some games by one.

917
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's let's talk about that. They're due for more

918
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: regression on defense too. I mean, Conference opponents have made

919
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: forty percent of their threes something like that during this

920
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 1: seven game stretch where they've had a seventy percent effective

921
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 1: field goal p centator or something. Lowell went two and five.

922
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: They're the opposite of Michigan, the most snake biting team

923
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: in the nation. Three of their last four losses have

924
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,799
Speaker 1: come by exactly one point. One on the worst late

925
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: game falgall we've ever seen against Bryant, I mean, what

926
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: what was it? Earl timberrigg ran down the floor, didn't

927
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: get fouled, and then got sent to the line with

928
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: no time left. They blew a seventeen point lead with

929
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,399
Speaker 1: under eight minutes left against New Hampshire and then lost

930
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: on a buzzer beating three by Sammy Pieis. They blew

931
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 1: late leads and lost in overtime against Albany and Maine.

932
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: Both were fantastic losses. I mean in the Albany game

933
00:50:57,719 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: they missed three front ends and turned it over twice

934
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: and final minute after leading by six with seventy seconds left.

935
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: In the main game, they led by four with forty

936
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: seconds left, but Quincy Clark our guy, fouled aj Lopez

937
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: on a layup for an and one, and then threw

938
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: the ball away two Lopez on the rebound to end

939
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 1: up losing by one. They went one in nine in

940
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 1: this one and nine this year in games decided by

941
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: five or few or five or last.

942
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

943
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And at the same time there are only three wins. Recently,

944
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: were unrelenting blowouts of Binghamton and U NBC. This team

945
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: can be anyone on talent and offensive loan, which they've

946
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 1: proven like the path I mean yes, their first round

947
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: matchup against me, they lost both games to the Bears

948
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: by one point. Like you said, they should have won

949
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: the first battle. They led by double digits at half.

950
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: They had that collapse. They need to clean up the turnovers.

951
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: I mean they they turned it over nineteen times on Tuesday,

952
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: But any improvement in that area, like you said, seeing

953
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 1: them a third time, seeing that same skee.

954
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: Zone will pressure you.

955
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 1: Right, Lowell's a great zone offense, but their play making forwards,

956
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: and on top of that, if you can avoid turnovers

957
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: against Maine, you can get them at the rim because

958
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: they play extended and they have no size on the interior.

959
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: Not to mention they're terrible on the defensive boards. So

960
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 1: if you can just get it down load to Minci

961
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: Morrison Brooks, I think you can take rip main a

962
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: part of the interior. And also Maine kind of trended

963
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: down a bit more and more as the season has progressed.

964
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: And then if they win that matchup and they go

965
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 1: play Brian on the road. We just said it they should. Yeah,

966
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: they should have beaten them.

967
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 2: They could play their game at least right against that.

968
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: They should have beaten them seventy nine to seventy eight

969
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: two weeks ago. I mean, they've been rebounding way better,

970
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: so they can manage the shot volume battle more. And

971
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,359
Speaker 1: while it's brutal to beat Brian's defense, like I talked

972
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: about with UNBC, like Brian's going to rim funnel you.

973
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 1: If you get to the rim and you're crafty with

974
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: your finishing, you can avoid blocks against this team. In

975
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: the last matchup, Lowells scored forty four paint points and

976
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: they were blocked just six times, which is nice but

977
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: manageable against Bryant. And if they get through to the final,

978
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: they'll face the Vermont who swept them and crushed them

979
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: in a second meeting. But it now could be shorthanded

980
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: without Bogues. I mean, you have to buy them at

981
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 1: this price, at anything north to twenty to one. They're

982
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 1: fully capable of competing with these top teams. I thought

983
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: they'd be right up there with Godd's closer to Maine

984
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: if we're being completely honest. I mean, there's a reason

985
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: why they started the season twelve and four looked like

986
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: the best team in the league for a while. They

987
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: will play tightly contested games with their awesome offense, bad defense,

988
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: and hopefully the variance overlords will grant them and us

989
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,680
Speaker 1: some mercy and some much needed progression. To the mean,

990
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: I think Lowell wins this tournament.

991
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,799
Speaker 2: I agree, I think that they're I mean, I think

992
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: they're gonna beat Maine. Yeah, this is gonna be a

993
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,320
Speaker 2: coin foip game. And if they're catching one and a

994
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: half or more, just take and you want to bet them,

995
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 2: don't bet the money line just in case it was

996
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: by one. Again. Yeah, it is worth mentioning that Maine

997
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: would have a easier path to the final because if

998
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,080
Speaker 2: they win, they'll they'll play Vermont potentially short ended instead

999
00:53:56,080 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 2: of Bryant, assuming both of Bryant and it remains.

1000
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: What five point fifty six to one?

1001
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, thanks, so mean, Yeah, I mean, I

1002
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:07,839
Speaker 2: agree that is the play.

1003
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my quick notes on mein I mean,

1004
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,800
Speaker 1: opponents started making everything against them down the stretch. But

1005
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: I also think like their lack of speed and size

1006
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: just started catch up to them. I mean, they're they're

1007
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: Chris Markwood is an amazing head coach. But they're very

1008
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: execution reliant, and I mean they shot forty percent from

1009
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: three down the stretch, and they were still a mediocre

1010
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,799
Speaker 1: offense because they don't get to the line, they don't

1011
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,279
Speaker 1: get offensive rebounds, and they shot like forty percent from

1012
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: two point range. You know, they score zero in the

1013
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 1: paint and their ballscreen motion sets collapse down the stretch

1014
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,759
Speaker 1: just as teams started to adjust and figure out their

1015
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: execution stuff. They averaged under a half a point per

1016
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: possession on pick and rolls over a five game stretch

1017
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 1: between the UNBC and New Hampshire games. And their defense,

1018
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 1: while still amazing at the point of attack, like I said,

1019
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: it gets shredded at the rim and on the defensive

1020
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: glass because they have no size. They play so extended.

1021
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 1: It's overall effective defensive, but it's not unbeatable. So I'm

1022
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: kind of out on Maine entering this tournament. And we're

1023
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: being honest, which is part of the reason why we

1024
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: both like Lowell.

1025
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 2: Right, yep, yep, all right, we're in lockstep with with

1026
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 2: both the Big Sky and the Americans. By the way,

1027
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 2: if you're looking for Saturday, we'll have a lot show

1028
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,880
Speaker 2: off a right up a couple other spots that I

1029
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 2: wanted to mention. You know, it might be a corpse

1030
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: NC State Miami, that's battle of the corpses. I can't

1031
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: wait for that game at noon, since he might be

1032
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: a corpse at Oklahoma State. I might look to be

1033
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 2: at Kansas at home against Arizona, maybe Marquette against Saint John's.

1034
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: I might looked at at Harvard against Dartmouth. Dartmouth has

1035
00:55:43,080 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 2: nothing to play for there.

1036
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: I've been like the king of the fade Dartmouth train

1037
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: this year unsuccessfully.

1038
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: Harvard coming off that Yale win last game of the

1039
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 2: year at home. I could see it to Richmond at

1040
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 2: home against George Mason. I think George Mason's just going

1041
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 2: through the motions right now. They know they're not. They

1042
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 2: just look at their past over the past week against Duquane,

1043
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: last night against LaSalle. I think Richmond will have value

1044
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:19,320
Speaker 2: on Saturday. Another one. Tarleton State on Saturday against Utah Valley.

1045
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 2: Utah Valley wins every road game by like one. They've

1046
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: been so lucky on the road. They're a different team

1047
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 2: away from home. Tarleton State is a different team right now.

1048
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,279
Speaker 2: I'll talk whack on Sunday, but Freddie Hicks is back.

1049
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: He's a major difference maker. They didn't have Grimes the

1050
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: Baylor transfer for their first like fifteen games, the games

1051
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 2: that Hicks and Grimes didn't play this year, and there's many.

1052
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: This is the bottom twenty team. When they're both in there,

1053
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: they're completely different, and this team is completely different at home.

1054
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they've injuries, right, Yeah, Hicks.

1055
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:13,120
Speaker 2: And Grimes, They're like, that's enough, significantly better. Yeah. Now,

1056
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: the the wrench in this is I don't know why

1057
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 2: this happened. They go to cal Baptist tonight and have

1058
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: to come home to play Utah Valley, who's playing tonight

1059
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 2: at Abilene Christian which is an hour down the road. So, like,

1060
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: the travel disadvantage is huge for Tarlan. You're supposed to

1061
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 2: have like home and home and away a way. I

1062
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 2: don't know who crafted this schedule, but it's an awful,

1063
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 2: awful travel spot for the home team on the Saturday game.

1064
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 2: It's supposed to be they it's like, it's awful anyway.

1065
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: Those are three ads circled. Weve right ups, Tannel have

1066
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:56,439
Speaker 2: righte ups. We'll have our our live show, give anything

1067
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: you wanted the mention for Saturday I'm doubt you even

1068
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: dug in yet. Nope, just waiting for a lot of

1069
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 2: It's TVD. We're gonna have CONFERENCERNMIT matchups. We don't even

1070
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: know them. Yep.

1071
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,640
Speaker 1: Just waiting, Just waiting for the Lowell game. Just excited

1072
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Speaker 1: for the Lowell game.

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Speaker 2: Waiting for low By the way, Dartmouth six and two

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00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 2: in February, opponent shooting twenty from thirty, the Big Green

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Speaker 2: past ten the nation. Uh, it'll be Cornell, Dartmouth and

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00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: Ivy Madness by the way, and then most likely be

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Speaker 2: Yale Princeton. Brown needs a win plus a Dartmouth win

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00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 2: plus a Penn win to get in before we get

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Speaker 2: out of here, though, with the Southland start to Mike.

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Speaker 3: Calabares for his thoughts there, Thanks Duck, It's time to

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00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: talk Southlands. And this has been a proud low Major conference.

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00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,360
Speaker 3: Three of our last ten conference champions have gone to

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00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 3: March Madness and won a game in the round of

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00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: sixty four. In twenty sixteen, Steven F. Austin was a

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00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 3: bucket away from going to the Sweet sixteen. So this

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00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: is not just a speed bump for the major players

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00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 3: in March Madness to get an easy auto win and

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00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 3: head to the round of thirty two. So where does

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00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 3: it start this season? It's all about McNeice and Will Wade.

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00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: Will Wade forced out of LSU, his tenure ending in

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00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 3: ban Rousion, basically the worst way possible. It's under the

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00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: cloud of NCAA investigation. Then he gets hit with some

1093
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 3: Tier one violations because a show caused penalty. It seems

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00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 3: as though he may need to go overseas to continue

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00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 3: his coaching career, but he very quickly was able to

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00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 3: turn things around, gets a job in is the same

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00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 3: state in Louisiana, and he has led McNeice to back

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00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 3: to back SLC regular season titles and number one seeds

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00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:26,040
Speaker 3: in the conference tournament.

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00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: And that's critical because of the format.

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00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 3: The top two teams get an auto by to the

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00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Speaker 3: semis and McNeese will be playing this whole thing on

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00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 3: their home floor.

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00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 2: So the question is comes down to price.

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00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:37,919
Speaker 3: There's really three teams that I think have the goods

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00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 3: potentially if everything shakes out right, to win this thing. McNeese,

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00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: as I mentioned, minus five point fifty even for a

1108
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,439
Speaker 3: team playing on their home floor, even for a team

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00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: that has such a strong identity when you look year

1110
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 3: over year they lose Shahata Wells, but somehow they get

1111
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: even better on the defensive end. And a big part

1112
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 3: of it is they force turnovers nineteen percent of opponent possessions,

1113
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 3: and the turnover they give up nothing in transition because

1114
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: they at a very slow, methodical pace on the offensive ends.

1115
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: Now you can get the best of them in their

1116
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 3: front court, and that's where I turned to a team

1117
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 3: like Lamar. Lamar has the size to be able to

1118
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 3: take advantage of McNeice. They have two players over six'

1119
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 3: nine in their, rotation and if they can beat them

1120
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 3: on the offensive glass and cut down on their turnovers

1121
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 3: as they did in Their march first meeting with The

1122
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 3: cowboys at two point loss, THERE i think that they

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01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,680
Speaker 3: could get over the hump at twelve to One.

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01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 2: Lamar i'll come back to them in just a.

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01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 3: Moment let's talk about the other, team the three seed

1126
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: who's going to need to win in the, quarters The

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01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 3: semis and the title, game likely against, McNeice and that

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01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 3: Is Nickel, state the only team to beat McNeice this entire.

1129
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 3: Season and WHILE i was excited to dig into some

1130
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: of their advanced, stats the thing of it, is, yes

1131
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 3: they beat, McNeice but in that, game The cowboys shot

1132
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 3: over twelve from three point range And Nickel state shot

1133
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 3: over fifty.

1134
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 2: Percent that kind of three point.

1135
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 3: Variance is just not going to happen, again particularly with

1136
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 3: a bid To March madness on theline on their home.

1137
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 2: FLOOR i have more faith in McNeice than.

1138
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 3: That so let's look At lamar once. AGAIN i talked

1139
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 3: about the front, court what they can do on the offensive,

1140
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 3: glass but it really comes down To Alexis. Marmalaos he

1141
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: is their primary ball. Handler he's a knockdown three point.

1142
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 3: Shooter he can gets the line upwards of ten times

1143
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 3: in a game because he drives and is aggressive in,

1144
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 3: transition and he was able to handle the McNeese. Pressure

1145
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 3: in the two meetings this, year he had thirty five,

1146
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 3: points but critically just four, turnovers and he's a fearless.

1147
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 3: Kid early in the season they went To College station

1148
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 3: and Played TEXAS a AND. M he dropped twenty three

1149
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 3: points on The aggis in a losing. Effort SO i

1150
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,680
Speaker 3: view him as the difference maker, here and at twelve to,

1151
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 3: ONE i think there's a lot of value here because

1152
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 3: if you look at where the point spreads were set

1153
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 3: in the first two meetings with. McNeice i think this

1154
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 3: will probably come down ten to eleven point, spread and

1155
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: the money line would be in that plus four to

1156
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 3: fifty plus four to seventy five, window getting them at

1157
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: twelve to, one needing only to win in the semis

1158
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 3: to get. THERE i think that's the way to go

1159
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 3: about it, Here SO i will pass on McNeice at

1160
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 3: minus five point. Fifty my official play Is lamar at

1161
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 3: twelve to one to win The.

1162
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:58,200
Speaker 2: Southland Thanks, mike yeat twelve to. ONE i could only Take,

1163
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 2: lamar But Mcinnee state really got a. Break i'm not

1164
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 2: betting These state at minus five. Fifty that's, outrageous but

1165
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 2: they get to play at home And Northwestern steak got

1166
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 2: the four. Seed Like TEXAS a and m Corpus chrissy

1167
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 2: would have been a little tougher of a, matchup BUT

1168
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: i mean they're gonna be double digit favorites in both.

1169
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 2: Games good, Luck. MIKE i will not be touching the South.

1170
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 2: LAND i Hope acne gets in because they're a much

1171
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 2: more they'll make the field much more interesting than any

1172
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: other the teams in the South. Land so but, yeah

1173
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 2: IF i had to take, one it would silamar or

1174
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 2: nothing at. Twelve have to be twelve to one or.

1175
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 2: Better all, right that'll do it for. Us thanks To

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01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 2: mike For southland. Thoughts thanks of course To tanner for

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Speaker 2: rambling along with. Me we only went an hour and

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Speaker 2: ten is. Good. LONGER i thought it would be, longer

1179
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,680
Speaker 2: but that's that's a long time for two leagues usually

1180
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 2: do like four in an hour, Ten but that's what

1181
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 2: you can expect when it's Ten or AND i on

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Speaker 2: the same episode rambling away as we. Do thanks to

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Speaker 2: our Producer david on the back, end most, poortly thanks

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Speaker 2: all of you for tuning in last Show. SATURDAY i

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Speaker 2: will not be sleeping for the next six, weeks but

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Speaker 2: especially the next six. DAYS i will be doing twelve

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Speaker 2: conference previews across three podcasts On sunday with the guys

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Speaker 2: from Three Men, weave and then five more On monday

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Speaker 2: With mike And. Greg so that's. Time it's uh and

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Speaker 2: we'll have you covered on every single conference tournament across the.

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