1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: When I was time for our daily Bloomberg Law Brief, 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: exploring legal issues in the news, and it's brought to 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: you by American Arbitration Association. Business disputes are inevitable, resolve 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: faster with the American Arbitration Association, the global leader in 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: alternative dispute resolution for over ninety years. More at a 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: d r dot org. Today, Bloomberg lawhos Doing Grosso and 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: Michael Best discussed whether Attorney General Jeff's Sessions can be 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: brought up on perjury charges after he failed to disclose 9 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: meetings with Russian officials during his Senate confirmation hearing. They 10 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: seek with Jennifer Rogers, executive director of the Center for 11 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: the Advancement of Public Integrity at the Columbia Law School. Jennifer, 12 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: perjury requires a statement under oath that is false, material, 13 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: or significant, and that the speaker knows is false. Does 14 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: sessions testimony fit the legal criteria for perjury. I don't 15 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: think so. I think the question and answer are just 16 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: a little too ambiguous to make a perjury count out. 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,279 Speaker 1: Just a very very hard statue to prove, and in 18 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: this case, it's just not a clean enough question and 19 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: answer to be able to say that for sure he 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: knew that he was being untruthful when he answered, well, Jennifer, 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: is is that the only question here though, whether or 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: not he committed perjury or because a lot of people 23 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: in Congress at least seemed to be upset with, um, 24 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: the veracity, whether or not it's a crime. Well, there 25 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,399 Speaker 1: are a whole host of issues about whether the Attorney 26 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: General was misleading Congress and if so, whether he should resign. 27 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a false statement statute also that 28 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: could be applied here. There's even a misdemeanor statute for 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: misleading Congress that was used back in the Watergate times. Um, 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: so I'm really just talking about perjury because it is 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: such a hard statute to prove. But there are a 32 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: whole host of other issues that you know, become a 33 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: little bit more of a political issue than a legal issue. 34 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: And so what what you know, let's say that you 35 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: can't prove per jury here, what what could Congress look 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: at if they wanted to investigate what is going on 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: here and what has happened here? Well, on the legal side, 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's really just perjury and false statements, neither 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: of which I think is going to be actionable here 40 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: unless additional information came out. Um. And then there's the 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: misdemeanor about misleading Congress. That one is a possibility. Uh. 42 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: And then of course they're a whole whole realm of 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: non legal actions. Right. They could continue to investigate him 44 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: and you know, seek his resignation and other other means 45 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: of removal other than criminal convictions under the legal system, 46 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: But as far as the law is concerned, the options 47 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: are pretty limited, at least on the evidence we know now, 48 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: unless something else comes out. 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