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Speaker 3: And we are good way, Hello and welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Action Network Podcast. I am Brandon Anderson here with Raheem Palmer.

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Speaker 3: We had a heck of a week, eight lots of

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Speaker 3: interesting and fun of football today to talk about. Starting

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Speaker 3: with my double upset special for those of you that

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Speaker 3: listen to the podcast on a Friday, Saints over the Box,

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Speaker 3: Patriots over the Chargers.

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Speaker 4: We'll get back to those.

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Speaker 3: We of course, finished with my Minnesota Vikings choking like

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Speaker 3: we do to the Dallas Cowboys. Rahiem, your Cowboys came

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Speaker 3: through for you. Are you dreaming big?

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Speaker 1: Dreaming really big?

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Speaker 2: I think this is a Super Bowl contendent team. Look,

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Speaker 2: this team is seven and zero against the spread. They

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Speaker 2: continue to outperform the market. And you know when you

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Speaker 2: outperform their market, that says good things about this team.

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Speaker 2: It's rather predictive, So I'm really excited.

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Speaker 3: Good teams win, great teams cover, So Dallas is winning

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Speaker 3: us a lot of money. Also winning a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Road underdogs, road underdogs under a touchdown entered this week

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Speaker 3: thirty and twelve against the spread. There's six and two

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Speaker 3: against the spread this week. All six teams that covered

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Speaker 3: rate ROI of sixty five percent, so that is a

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Speaker 3: big story rate now, also a big story. The guys

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Speaker 3: we got Trevor Simeon, we got Mike White. These guys

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Speaker 3: are just taking all of our money and just taking

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Speaker 3: taking the candy from the kids come and trick or treating.

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Speaker 4: They're taking the money from the favorites. It is a

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Speaker 3: We got a lot of games to talk through. We'll

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Speaker 3: get the money at Football and the Hot Read. Of course,

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Speaker 3: odds today are from bat MGM, the official odds provider

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Speaker 3: of the Action Network podcast. So let's dig into that

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Speaker 3: Cowboys Vikings game a little bit. Cowboys twenty sixteen kind

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Speaker 3: of an ugly game. I think there were fourteen drives

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Speaker 3: and then we got Cooper to Cooper, Cooper rush Amari

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Speaker 4: What did you take away from this team that is

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Speaker 4: doing the Vikings again, I think it's.

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Speaker 2: A little bit of pose. When you look at the Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: they outperformed the Vikings offensive. We had more first downs,

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Speaker 2: they had more total plays. They had four hundred and

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Speaker 1: Wild play six point two to four point six.

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Speaker 2: Look this Vikings team, we say, I say it every week,

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Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer is living in the Stone Ages.

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Speaker 1: You're watching the game. At point Kirk Cousins.

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Speaker 2: Had thrown eight of his twenty three attempts behind the

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Speaker 2: He likes to run the ball and establish the run.

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Speaker 2: And you look at the the Russian stats when they

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Speaker 2: So this guy's just playing the conservative and you can't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Vikings run game. This has not gotten going

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Speaker 3: The key to this game for me was third down.

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Speaker 4: So this is the Vikings.

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Speaker 3: You know, Kirk Cousins is now one in ten against

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Speaker 2: They had a double digit lead against the Lions with

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Speaker 2: this is a team that never makes it easy. They're

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Speaker 1: Is all what we say.

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Speaker 3: And it is a rough schedule to come still. So

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Speaker 4: So this was a wild ride.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we didn't know Dak Prescott was going to be out.

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Speaker 3: Rahim and I both liked the Cowboys in this matchup.

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Speaker 3: We talked about it last week. Cowboys were like one

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady threw multiple interceptions and I think that was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Saints defense came to play. They have just

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Speaker 3: They had plenty of time. They're gonna go kick the

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Speaker 3: And then a couple of plays later, Brady throws a

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Speaker 2: and I always both pay attention to. So the Saints

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Speaker 2: one decision here.

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Speaker 1: You go for two.

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Speaker 1: We all know this.

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Speaker 3: You go for two, the Bucks kick the extra point.

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Speaker 3: The next touchdown, the kick the extra point. So now

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Speaker 3: it's twenty three to twenty one. And let's be fair,

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Speaker 3: maybe you don't make both extra points or in both

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Speaker 1: But it is the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: I just don't see it.

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Speaker 2: The one thing about Hill is that he adds another element.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that that's fair.

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Speaker 3: Definitely, Taysom Hill is gonna get used a lot in

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Speaker 3: It does look like James is probably out. I thought

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Speaker 3: I thought it might be a good BILO, but I

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Speaker 1: But we'll see.

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Speaker 4: I'm still keep an eye out on the division.

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Speaker 3: The Saints are only half game back now because they've

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Speaker 3: I'm not really seeing the odds great on it yet though.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know, the Patriots were one and four in

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Speaker 1: I was very impressed with the Patriots.

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Speaker 2: but Adrian Phillips was huge, Like he had you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little worrying because don't forget they're coming

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Speaker 4: They've got to convert earlier. And it didn't happen their.

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Speaker 3: Hold on real they are four and four. That's pretty

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Speaker 2: So there's something going on with this offense, and it's

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Speaker 3: It is concerning, and I'll say too, this is a

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Speaker 1: Heard it before.

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Speaker 4: So we know about Bill Belichick against the rookie quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see that go to three.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's do another one of these road underdog winners.

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Speaker 3: get it incomplete or intentional grounding or something not the safety,

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00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,680
Speaker 3: but they were better off that way.

441
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600
Speaker 4: It wasn't smart play. It just worked out horribly for him,

442
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,560
Speaker 4: like it always seems to.

443
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny because even if literally the pick

444
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,239
Speaker 2: six is the only thing that saved them, because if

445
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 2: they intercept the ball and just kneel down, the Coats

446
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 2: only had two timeouts left and the Titans could run

447
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 2: out the whole clock and kick a field goal. So

448
00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:42,800
Speaker 2: it was just interesting how that played out. And then

449
00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,480
Speaker 2: it felt like this was the Coats game to win,

450
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,000
Speaker 2: and for whatever reason, they got the ball first in overtime.

451
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:55,800
Speaker 2: They started out, then Carson throws an interception and you know,

452
00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,399
Speaker 2: they did everything right. They slow down Derrick Henry and

453
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 2: I think there's a big conversation about if Derek Henry

454
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 2: is wearing down because he wasn't the same guy today.

455
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 2: It's pretty clear that that play action game for the Titans,

456
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 2: it's working. Wonders they've gone back to it. Obviously, Arthur

457
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,200
Speaker 2: Smith left in free agency become the head coach of

458
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons. But since they've going back to this

459
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: play action game, tan Hill has been on fire. Two

460
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,120
Speaker 2: hundred sixty five yards, three touchdown, even though two interceptions.

461
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 2: He made the plays when it counted. AJ Brown was

462
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 2: huge one hundred and fifty five yards and the touchdowns.

463
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,200
Speaker 3: So I don't know what to make of these quarterbacks.

464
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,800
Speaker 3: I feel like any outcome could have happened the way

465
00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,280
Speaker 3: this game was going. Both quarterbacks through three touchdowns, both

466
00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 3: quarterbacks through two interceptions. We had to mention that the

467
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:47,560
Speaker 3: interception that Tannehill had when it should have been a backbreaker.

468
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 3: The Colts are about to get the ball back in

469
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 3: Titan's territory. The guy picks it off and then tries

470
00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,880
Speaker 3: to run a little bit and injures himself and fumbles

471
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: the ball and his way down. The Titans to get

472
00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 3: the ball right back, and I think the very next

473
00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:00,919
Speaker 3: play age, Brown breaks a long touchdowns, So it's literally

474
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 3: like a ten or fourteen point swing just on this

475
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:07,720
Speaker 3: fluke injury at the worst time possible. Very strange game.

476
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: The Titans had one hundred and sixty one penalty yards

477
00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,320
Speaker 3: on eleven penalties. The best play the Colts have run

478
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 3: all season long is just throwing it deep and getting

479
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,200
Speaker 3: passing appearance. It's like the best thing that they do.

480
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,919
Speaker 3: They did it last week too, and their big win.

481
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 3: They just kipt chucking it deep and drawing pass in appearance.

482
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 3: But the way that that goes wrong. We got to overtime.

483
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 3: The Colts through it deep through what I thought was

484
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: a pretty clear pass interppearance, and then they didn't call

485
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 3: it because you're relying on the refs not the actual play,

486
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: and then they had to punt it away and then

487
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 3: the Titans come down and win or no, I mean,

488
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,000
Speaker 3: I went through the interception and so they have to

489
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: win after that. So you can't you can't rely on

490
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 3: the refs. They're not as going to come through for you.

491
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 3: So they came through a lot of the game and

492
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 3: then not when it mattered most here.

493
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: It is so funny to see it because I thought

494
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 2: that was a pass in appearence in overtime too, and

495
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,159
Speaker 2: I think, I don't know, but they when you have

496
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: two chances to win it overtime and then the second

497
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: one you only need a feel gool you got execute.

498
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 2: So it's looked like the Titans have a three game

499
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 2: lead into division and they might have wrapped this thing

500
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,080
Speaker 2: on up. So it looked like the Colts are playing

501
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,520
Speaker 2: for the wildcard, but I don't know if they can

502
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:11,320
Speaker 2: recover at this point.

503
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a rough spot for them. They really needed

504
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:17,880
Speaker 3: this one. Also rough if you bet on the total here.

505
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 3: This game was twenty four to twenty four with ninety

506
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:23,160
Speaker 3: seconds left, and the total was at fifty one, went

507
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 3: up at sixty five because we go, we go to overtime,

508
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 3: We got that pick six, we get the score in overtime.

509
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, it ended up not being as close as

510
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,400
Speaker 3: they could have been. But with ninety seconds left, twenty

511
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 3: four to twenty four, you're feeling pretty good. At least

512
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 3: you're hoping maybe get out of there with the field

513
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: goal and a push there, but no such bluck there.

514
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,200
Speaker 3: All right, let's speed up and do a few.

515
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 4: Lightning round games here.

516
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 3: We got some more fun action to get to the

517
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 3: biggest upset of the season so far, your AFC one seat,

518
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 3: Cincinnati Bengals going down on the road to the New

519
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 3: York Football Jets. That was an eleven and a half

520
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,119
Speaker 3: point underdog for the Jets. This line was three and

521
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 3: a half a week Ald go. I gave it out

522
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 3: as my hot read.

523
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: I was feeling great.

524
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 3: I had such good I had eight points of closing

525
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 3: line value. Somehow, I have eight points of closing value

526
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,199
Speaker 3: on the Bengals and I lose. Somehow I gave up

527
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: eight points of closing value on the Cowboys, and I went,

528
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 3: isn't betting football fun?

529
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: Oh? Really fun?

530
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: Betting the NFL specifically, it's more fun than anything else

531
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,600
Speaker 2: because it's just sometimes the clothing line value just doesn't

532
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 2: work out for you.

533
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,400
Speaker 3: So Mike White, obviously is the story of the game.

534
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 3: Dude makes his first start thirty seven of forty five,

535
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 3: four hundred and five yards and three touchdowns. He's catching

536
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 3: the two point conversion off of the Phillies special, which

537
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: apparently every team just added their playbook now. He completed

538
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: his first ten passes. Honestly, the Jets barely won here,

539
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: but they deserved it. They had almost two hundred more

540
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 3: yards in the Bengals. They ran twenty four more plays,

541
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 3: they had thirteen more minutes time of possession. The three

542
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,480
Speaker 3: turnovers that they had as all that kept as close.

543
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 3: The Jets really dominated here.

544
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,480
Speaker 1: Oh they absolutely dominated.

545
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 2: Like when you when you actually look at what the

546
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 2: Jets did, they had a sixty percent success rate on

547
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: early downs, fifty nine percent success rate period sixty, sixty

548
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 2: seven percent success rate in passing downs. This is an

549
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: absolute dominant performance. If Mike White doesn't throw two interceptions

550
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: which were tipped like it looked like the Bengals were

551
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 2: completely out of this game. So for the Bengals, they

552
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: have an eleven point lead in the fourth quarter.

553
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: That was shocking.

554
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: But then it was even more shocking to see the

555
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: Jets actually come back and win this game in regulation.

556
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: These NFL games are just they take on a life

557
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 2: of its own. And it was a classic letdown spot.

558
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: And you saw a lot of sharp money all over

559
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. The week after they dominated the Baltimore Ravens.

560
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: The defense that was able to just shut down Lamar Jackson,

561
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 2: they just couldn't shut.

562
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 1: Down this white guy.

563
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 2: So it's just It's absolutely hilarious. And I think the

564
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from this is that you really have to

565
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 2: be concerned with Zach Wilson. Like, I mean, Zach Wilson

566
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 2: is not even a competite quarterback at this point. We

567
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: all know the stats about the Jets inability to score

568
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 2: in first half, but Mike White was just out there.

569
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 2: I mean, he's just throwing the ball all around the field,

570
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: and he looked like the better quarterback. He looked like

571
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,560
Speaker 2: the quarterback who was drafted in the first round. So

572
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 2: it's gonna be interested to see what they do going forward.

573
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly look good. Mike White had himself the

574
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 3: day I in researching. Let's be honest, I knew very

575
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,360
Speaker 3: little about Mike White going to this game. I don't

576
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: know about you, but I found out that his last

577
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 3: year in college he led to the entire NC double

578
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 3: A in yards per play. And that's a head of

579
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: like Patrick Mahomes and Trubisky and like, that's that draft

580
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 3: and he was number one the entire NC double A.

581
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 4: So the guy obviously knows how to throw the ball.

582
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: He looks good.

583
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: Suddenly Thursday Night, Jets Colts is looking a little interesting.

584
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 3: This was supposed to be for the Colts. Just a

585
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 3: nice easy win, all right, we got through the Titans game.

586
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 3: Now let's just get a nice seazy one and we

587
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 3: got the backup and everything. I don't know, it could

588
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 3: be Mike White week. We could get Mike White wins

589
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,959
Speaker 3: two and five days here if we're not careful.

590
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 2: So that one thing I would the one thing I

591
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: will say to that is that I think you do

592
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: want to tread lightly with that. Like a lot of times,

593
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 2: you see these unknown quarterbacks, they come in and they

594
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 2: start carving up teams. Look at Taylor Hinnicky last year.

595
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 2: Taylor Hinnicky was a monster last year when he stepped

596
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 2: in for the array of quarterbacks the Washington football team

597
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 2: had last year, and you see he started carving these

598
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: guys up. But once you get these guys on tape

599
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: and you're able to prepare for him, you see a

600
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: different quarterback. So I think there's a reason why the

601
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,679
Speaker 2: Colts are ten and a half point favorites on Thursday.

602
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly, I'm just saying it's not quite the walkover

603
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: that it probably would have been. Like, well, let's be fair,

604
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: if Zach Wilson was starting in this game instead of

605
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: Mike White.

606
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: You feel great about the Colts when.

607
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, without without a doubt, Yeah, yeah, without a doubt.

608
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,119
Speaker 4: Mike White just adds a little variability.

609
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 1: He's a little bit what it is. He's competent, which

610
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: does not be more what you can say about Yeah.

611
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: And he's a rookie, so let's not make the rookie

612
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 3: excuse either. This is his first start, so well done

613
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: to Mike White. All right, we wanted to hit a

614
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 3: stink of the week here.

615
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 4: Smelly, smelly, smelly.

616
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: It's the smell. It's quite pungent. Dude, plug your nose,

617
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: it's stinks. This is your stink of the week smell.

618
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 3: But we got two stink of the weeks, one for

619
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 3: me and one for you. So stink of the week

620
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 3: for me, I think is the stink of the year

621
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: so far. Rams Texans. So let me set the stage.

622
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 3: The Rams destroyed the Texans for most of the game.

623
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 3: It's thirty eight to nothing. We're fast forwarding all the

624
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 3: way ahead. It's thirty to nothing. The Texans get the

625
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: ball back twelve minutes left. This line closed at sixteen

626
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 3: point five, so thirty eight nothing, sixteen and a half.

627
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 3: We're feeling pretty good about our copper here. We're already

628
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 3: stopped paying attention. We're just trying to see if we're

629
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 3: to get the over at forty six and a half.

630
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: We're probably going to, So Texans give the ball back now.

631
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 3: At this point, Houston with Davis Mills, has scored forty

632
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 3: six points in three hundred and seventy eight minutes. That's

633
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: a point every eight minutes, and there's twelve minutes left,

634
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,399
Speaker 3: so thirty eight till one. That's the score that we're

635
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 3: trending towards here, maybe thirty eight till one and a half.

636
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 3: The Texans at this point have recorded fifty eight yards

637
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: total the entire game. It's the fourth quarter. It's over,

638
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: it's not over. Texans second half drives had gone at

639
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: this point for negative three, negative nine, negative seven negative

640
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 3: for five yards. So that's the second half so far.

641
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: Here we go ten plays, sixty yards in a touchdown,

642
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: Rams go three and out. Texans give the ball back

643
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 3: touchdown to Brandon Cook's. Hooray for Brandon Cooks against.

644
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: His old team.

645
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: We're happy for him. It's fine. We're still thirty eight

646
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 3: to fourteen. The cover is fine. Texans on side Texans

647
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: recover six plays, fifty yard touchdown. It's fine, it still

648
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: is thirty eight to twenty. All we needed them to

649
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,479
Speaker 3: do is just kick the extra point. We cover by

650
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: half point, get out of here. But for no reason,

651
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: the Texans decided to go for two. Davis Mills runs

652
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: it in. The Texans lose.

653
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 4: By sixteen, cover the sixteen and a half.

654
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 3: Hopefully you played it a little earlier, but if you

655
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 3: wait to tell just before kickoff, you got boned hard

656
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: on this one.

657
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Speaker 4: So that is my stink of the week and stink

658
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Speaker 4: of the year so far.

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00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh that was absolutely ugly, like you could have walked

660
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 2: away in the third quarter. Really, the first half, I

661
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: think you had this cover in the bag and for

662
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: it to completely fall apart and the fourth quarter is

663
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: just I don't know what to say, but I have

664
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 2: a stink of the week as well. It's the Washington

665
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: football team last week. Look, last week they played the

666
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers, sharp money all over. The Washington football

667
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 2: team pushed this line down from ten to seven. They

668
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 2: had drives at the Packers twenty three, twenty seven, one, three,

669
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: and twelve which they scored zero points. They were zero

670
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: for four in the red zone with two tonal So

671
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: me being the guy that I am, I like to

672
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 2: bet on that. Regressing to the me against the Denver

673
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: Broncos team which has been bleeding.

674
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: Points lo and behold this week.

675
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: They start off the game, they get the ball first,

676
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: they drive it into the green zone. They're at the

677
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 2: Denver thirty. They go forward on four to two. They

678
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 2: don't get it. Denver gets the ball, they fumble. Guess

679
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: what happens. The Washington football team gets the ball back.

680
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: They go back into the green zone. They miss a

681
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: field goal. They had six trips into the green zone

682
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: with no points. They only punt it once. They only

683
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,720
Speaker 2: punt it once in the game and have ten points. Look,

684
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: the offense is a complete mess. Over the last two weeks.

685
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: They have thirteen trips inside the opponent's thirty yard line.

686
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 2: In the past two games, they have one touchdown, two

687
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: field goals, three black field goals, and six loss of downs.

688
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 2: I want to say that maybe they should start taking

689
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: the points, but even had.

690
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: Three black field so it can't take the points. There's

691
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 1: no point. Literally can't take the points.

692
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: I just I don't know what to do with this

693
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 2: team anymore. If you can get into the red zone

694
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: and the green zone.

695
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: You can't score. What can you do?

696
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 3: And by the way, let's let's talk about to the kicker.

697
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 3: They signed a kicker two weeks ago whose name literally

698
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 3: is blew It. They signed a kicker whose name is

699
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: blew It and he's had three field goals blocked in

700
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 3: two weeks. It's ridiculous. I was on Washington too. We

701
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: said six and two of the road underdogs. Washington should

702
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 3: have been seven and one. They should have won this game.

703
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,800
Speaker 3: They should have probably won last week, or certainly at

704
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 3: least covered. I don't know what the regression monster. I

705
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 3: don't know if that's ever coming for Washington. Yeah, it's

706
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:40,479
Speaker 3: not coming at all.

707
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: And that got the kicker. He needs Ocho Sinkle his

708
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: name or something. It's time for a change.

709
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 3: If your name is blew It and you become an

710
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: NFL kicker, you either don't care at all about names,

711
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: or everything in your life is about redeeming your name.

712
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 4: It's one or the other. It's not working for him.

713
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 5: You know.

714
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: He always kills me.

715
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Because there's often football players with foot names like Quentin

716
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Jammer was a quarterback. Right, that's the perfect name for

717
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback. It's just you've got to find something I

718
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: always loved.

719
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 4: I think he's hurt right now. But the Saints.

720
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: My favorite kicker before was the Saints signed Will Lutts,

721
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: and if you wrote it out like in fantasy, you

722
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: put the little K for kickers, so it said Klutz,

723
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: so it just was Klutz. So I love had Klutz

724
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 3: for the kicker that was my previous But now I

725
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: think blew it has taken the cake, especially because he's

726
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,239
Speaker 3: blew it every time he tries a field goal. All right,

727
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: let's run through the rest of Sunday Action and wrap

728
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 3: up Week eight. I thought the Steelers were gonna steal

729
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 3: stink of the Week two. I thought they had one

730
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 3: of the worst calls of the entire season.

731
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: So it's three to three.

732
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 3: Just before the half, they try a fake field goal again,

733
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: take some points, Steelers.

734
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: You can't score the ball. Take the points, so.

735
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: They snap it direct to the kicker, Chris Boswell. He

736
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: gets to snap your rolls out. Let's be fair, he's

737
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: a little more mobile than Ben Roethlisberger. At least at

738
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 3: least they got the ball in the hands of someone

739
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 3: that can make a play. He throws it to nowhere.

740
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 3: And gets cancussed. So now Pittsburgh has no kicker, they

741
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 3: get no points out of it. They kick it off

742
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: out of bounds. Later, they can't kick an extra point

743
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: to tie, they can't try a field goal to take

744
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 3: the lead. And I thought Pittsburgh was just trying everything

745
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 3: they could to blow this game. But the Browns blew it. Two.

746
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 3: Steelers win fifteen to ten, another road underdog winner plus

747
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: teenty five in the money line there. Justin Fields had

748
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 3: his best game as a pro, over one hundred yards rushing.

749
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 3: Also one of the plays of the year. Incredible play

750
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: by Justin Fields. Botched fourth down, He's got like seven

751
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 3: guys on him, somehow escapes everyone runs it in for

752
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: a score to tie it, but it's the Bears, so

753
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 3: they missed the extra point and don't tie it. Forty

754
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 3: nine Ers immediately long touchdown drive thirty three to twenty two.

755
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 3: They win and cover no punts, no turnovers, no sacks

756
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: all game for the Niners. A lot of smart people

757
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 3: thought the Lions might finally win this week. A lot

758
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 3: of smart people were wrong. The Lions got murdered forty

759
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 3: four to six rough under Somehow, the Eagles decided to

760
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 3: kick a field goal with two minutes left and we

761
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 3: got the over forty eight, So sorry about that one snoozer.

762
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 3: In Buffalo, the Bills be the Dolphins twenty six to eleven.

763
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 3: Kind of a weird push. Another weird late one. The

764
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: Bills score a touchdown with a minute left to go

765
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 3: up fifteen and for some reason decided to go for

766
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: two and they missed it, so we pushed the fifteen

767
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: on either side. So rough beat or lucky beat, depending

768
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: on what you thought there. Falcons offense did nothing against

769
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 3: the Panthers. Raheem, you got me on that one. We

770
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 3: were had to head on it and the Falcons no

771
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: showed two hundred and thirteen yards. Another road underdog winner

772
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 3: in nineteen thirteen for Carolina and Jacksonville coming off the

773
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 3: bye week, just as anupt as ever, in a world

774
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,240
Speaker 3: where we don't know anything that's happening in the NFL,

775
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: at least we have the Jacksonville Jaguars. They got carved

776
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,400
Speaker 3: up by Gino Smith and Alex Collins. Gino completed his

777
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 3: first fourteen passes, almost made a halftime without incompletion.

778
00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: On that drive.

779
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: The Jaguars had back to back twelve men on the field.

780
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 3: Penalties coming off of a bye week Seahawks thirty one

781
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: The Fight in Urban Myers seven big on the board

782
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000
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Speaker 3: Monday night, we are headed to Arrowhead for the Kansas

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00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 3: City Chiefs, who we think might still be good.

819
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: We're not really sure.

820
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: There are ten point favorites right now against the New

821
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 3: York Giants. The total is at fifty two This is

822
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 3: a tough one for me. Rahiem, what do you make

823
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: of this line?

824
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: This is a really, really, really.

825
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: Tough one because obviously, you know, the Kansas City Chiefs

826
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: the worst defense in the league Dead last ep. I

827
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: could play dead last and success rate, But for me,

828
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: I tend to like spots like this. I think it

829
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: says a lot that this team lost by twenty four

830
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 2: points last week and they're still laying ten and a

831
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 2: half points. So if I had to best something, I'm

832
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: inclined to lay to ten and a half points or

833
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,719
Speaker 2: the ten points with the Kansas City Chiefs. We all

834
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 2: know this team's not going to score three points this week.

835
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 2: The Giants are really in a tough position, so I'd

836
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 2: be looking that way. But I think this is a

837
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: past of me. I'm not willing to lay ten and

838
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 2: a half points ten points with the Kansas City Chiefs,

839
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,320
Speaker 2: even if they had Patrick Mahomes, So I'm sitting this

840
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 2: one out.

841
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. I know that you're not a big trends guy.

842
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: There are a lot of trends that are telling us

843
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: to be very careful with the Chiefs here. The Chiefs

844
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 3: are two and five against the spread this season. They're

845
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: currently on a seven game home losing streak against the spread.

846
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 3: That's they're failing to cover by nine point six points

847
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: during that stretch. They're also on a three game losing

848
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 3: streak against the spread as a double digit favorite.

849
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 4: The last win as a double.

850
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 3: Digit favorite or the last win and cover as a

851
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: home team, both of those exactly one year ago today

852
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 3: November one, twenty twenty against the Jets, who are awful

853
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: and trying to lose games. So the Chiefs just aren't

854
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: winning in these spots, or whether they're winning but not

855
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 3: covering Patrick Mahomes when he's a touchdown or more than

856
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: a touchdown favorite only seven and twelve and one against

857
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 3: the spread, that's not working.

858
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: Well.

859
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 3: We know the Daniel Jones thing eleven and five against

860
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 3: the spread on the road. So there are a lot

861
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: of trends there. I know you're not really a trends guy.

862
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: Do any of those trends make you nervous at all?

863
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: They kind of do, But I mean I have a

864
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: trend of my own.

865
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: Like when you look at teams that lose by twenty

866
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: four more points, they're three h five, two sixty five

867
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 2: and thirteen. That's around fifty three point five percent, which

868
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 2: gives you about a one percent edge.

869
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 1: So I do think there's some value.

870
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,479
Speaker 2: In actually back in these teams that lose by twenty

871
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: four more points. Now they're gonna be tough to stat

872
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: and you're not gonna hold this team to three points.

873
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,240
Speaker 2: So you're asking yourself, is Daniel Jones and this Giants team.

874
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: Will be able to keep up? And I'm not short

875
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: that's the case. Yeah.

876
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 3: I had a similar trend to one that you said,

877
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,919
Speaker 3: so something. I found teams that lose by seventeen or more.

878
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 3: So that's the Chiefs that was last week against teams

879
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: that win by seventeen or more, which is the Giants.

880
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: That's not the way we thought this trend would go

881
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: on this game, the Giants are coming off the big

882
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,320
Speaker 3: win against the Panthers, not really meaningful.

883
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 4: Chiefs had the big loss.

884
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 3: So in that spot, the teams that lost big are

885
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 3: ninety seven to sixty and four against THO spreads. So

886
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: let's say sixty two percent cover rate, and when that

887
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 3: team that lost is at home, it goes up to

888
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: sixty four percent with twenty five percent ROI. So I

889
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: do it's hard because if you look at like the

890
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 3: last month, I think we're giving the Chiefs offense too

891
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: much credit. They're only thirteenth in EPA per play over

892
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,760
Speaker 3: the last four games, they're seventeenth and passing EPA. Patrick

893
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: Mahomes on EPA and the CPOE good quarterback measurement, he's

894
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: only sixteenth. So the offense is measuring out as average.

895
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 3: But it's the Giants. This is a pretty good get

896
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: right spot. Like I would feel very dumb to talk

897
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 3: myself into the Giants based on all these trends.

898
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: And suddenly it's twenty one.

899
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 3: Nothing like ten minutes into the game, Tyreek Hill has

900
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 3: two long scores and we're like, oh right, the Chiefs

901
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 3: still have Tyreek and Kelsey and Patrick Mahomes. So that's

902
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,919
Speaker 3: my My indsting is similar to yours. I don't love

903
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 3: this game. I don't want to play it a much.

904
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: If I had to take a side, I like the

905
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 3: Chiefs better. A week ago, when we did the hot read,

906
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 3: I wanted to take the Chiefs. The line was under

907
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 3: fourteen and I thought it would get over fourteen. But

908
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,479
Speaker 3: then I got thrown off by that ugly Chiefs lost

909
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: last week. So I wonder, now are we overrating the

910
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 3: Chiefs and the line is too high or did that

911
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: weird set of results last week actually biased a field

912
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: goal of value? Now we're down to like ten points

913
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 3: here when I thought it might be fourteen or higher.

914
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: I think I'm willing to give the Chiefs another chance.

915
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 3: It's a home game, it's Monday night, it's Pat Mahomes,

916
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: it's against the Giants. It's all the trends and everything

917
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: that's nice, but it feels like it's just trying to

918
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 3: outthink myself to pick against the Chiefs here.

919
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: So if I had to pick the.

920
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 4: Side, I'm going to play the Chiefs.

921
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: My question for you is that, so they're ten ten

922
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 3: and a half right now, are you going to tease

923
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: the Chiefs here?

924
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 4: Would you like them on a teaser or do they

925
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: worry you that they might lose.

926
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't tease the Chiefs just because you're teasing from

927
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 1: ten ten and a half down to three and a

928
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: half or three Like when.

929
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 2: I'm doing a teaser. I want a team to be

930
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 2: able to have to win by less than a field goal,

931
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: So they can win by a field goal they're good,

932
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 2: or I want a team that's going to be catching

933
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: the key number of seven. So this doesn't fit that

934
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: threshold for me, and I just it's not a leg

935
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: that I think is going to hit more than seventy

936
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: two point three percent of the time, which is what

937
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: you need to break even on these teachers.

938
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: So that's something I would personally leave alone.

939
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: What about as far as the longer shots go, So

940
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 3: the Giants, I'm seeing plus three sixty five on the

941
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: money line at bet mg out, So in my head,

942
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: I think that's about twenty two to twenty three percent chance.

943
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 3: Do we think there's any chance that Giants get the

944
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 3: win here on the road? Is there a quarter of

945
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: a chance twenty five percent that they get there?

946
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say no.

947
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why I don't see the

948
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 2: Giants made a force enough turnovers to be able to.

949
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: Win this game.

950
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 2: And then obviously you have a Giants offense which hasn't

951
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: been great. They're twenty four fo yards per drive and I,

952
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: honestly I just.

953
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: Don't see it.

954
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,479
Speaker 2: So for me, I think I gotta be looking Chiefs

955
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 2: for pass here. I think this is just the spot.

956
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 2: This is their season right here. This is not a

957
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 2: Chiefs team that's allowed the coast at this point. They're

958
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 2: playing for the playoff. Last they're three and four in

959
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 2: a year. They lose this game.

960
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: Obviously it's a non conference game, but they lose this game.

961
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: They're a big trouble.

962
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: And they don't have the easiest schedule because they have

963
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 2: the Packers next week and then they have a division

964
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 2: game against the Raiders and then the Cowboys after that.

965
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: So this is a must win game for the Chiefs. Yeah.

966
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 3: And I will say this though, as much as we

967
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: are very down on the Chiefs right now, and they

968
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 3: deserve it, we should be a little down on them

969
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 3: compared to what we thought coming into the year.

970
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 4: This was a pretty good Sunday for the Chiefs.

971
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 3: You know, the Chargers got the loss, the Titans almost lost,

972
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 3: the Bengals got the loss.

973
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 4: That AFC.

974
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 3: Everyone is very congested and as bad as the season

975
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 3: has gone for the Chiefs. You beat the Giants, which

976
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 3: you better beat the Giants, but you're back to four

977
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 3: and four. You're right in the mix. It's not going

978
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: to be easy. The defense is getting a little better.

979
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: I think I don't think that they're the worst defense

980
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: in the league now for the season. They are last

981
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: few weeks they're more like pretty bad, but not historically awful.

982
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 4: That's a big step forward.

983
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 3: And we know that if you're as good as Mahomes

984
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs can be an offense with a pretty

985
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 3: bad defense, that's okay.

986
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: We just can't be historically.

987
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: Awful and we can't turn it over in the red

988
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 3: zone like twice every game. So there is a chance

989
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: here that this was This could be kind of a

990
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 3: turning point. The Chiefs get a nice easy win here,

991
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 3: get things going again. A lot of results went their

992
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,960
Speaker 3: way this weekend. This could be a spot to buy

993
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 3: loo on futures if you believe in them. I'm not

994
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: recommending yet because I don't believe in like the super

995
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 3: Bowl future, but the division maybe looks winnable. You know,

996
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 3: there is there is a path here for the Chiefs

997
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 3: to get back in even as rough as things have gone,

998
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 3: just by how things went in the AFC today.

999
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 4: What do you think about that? And go I agree

1000
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 4: with you.

1001
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: I can definitely see that, especially obviously the Chargers loss

1002
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 2: are still not that high on the Raiders, so I

1003
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: do think there's there's a path in there. And then

1004
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: obviously they still have some division games left, so I'm

1005
00:44:58,520 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 2: not even willing to count them out.

1006
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 3: Of a vision, so I grew with you in that

1007
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 3: as all right, let's get to our Week nine hot

1008
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 3: read before we get you out of here.

1009
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 5: Hot Wrap seventy ice lights, ice Cream, nineteen Sound nineteen Hora.

1010
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go first on this one because as we

1011
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,839
Speaker 3: just talked about the Raiders, both of us not really

1012
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: believing in them.

1013
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:26,360
Speaker 4: I'm gonna believe in the Raiders.

1014
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 3: So the Raiders are two and a half point favorites

1015
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 3: in New York facing the Giants. We just talked a

1016
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 3: lot about the Giants. Giants aren't good. The Raiders might

1017
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 3: not be great. They are possibly. You know, they're the

1018
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 3: two seed in the AFC right now thanks to having

1019
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,399
Speaker 3: a nice, you know, nice week for the Raiders too.

1020
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:46,359
Speaker 3: They sat home on the bye week and watched while

1021
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 3: the Chargers lost, watched while one of the teams they're

1022
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 3: tied with the top the AFC lost in the Bengals.

1023
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 3: So good week for the Raiders. So the Raiders defense,

1024
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 3: I think is pretty underrated. We didn't give them much

1025
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 3: credit coming into the year, but they've been right over

1026
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 3: the last four weeks. Raiders are top seven overall in

1027
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 3: EPA on defense and top seven in pass defense. Pass

1028
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: rush has been great all year. I think they're going

1029
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 3: to give a bad Giants offensive line a ton of trouble.

1030
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones is going to struggle against that pass rush.

1031
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 3: The Raiders they started three to zero. They had two

1032
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: ugly losses, but we now know in hindsight, those two

1033
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 3: ugly losses came during the middle of all that John

1034
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: Gruden mess. Gruden leaves. They win two games since then,

1035
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: and I think it's been their best two wins of

1036
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,480
Speaker 3: the season. Now, they had a bye week to kind

1037
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,719
Speaker 3: of be like, okay, so that's all done, let's move on.

1038
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 3: And I just think it's disrespectful to make the Raiders

1039
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 3: under field goal favorite against the Giants, So I'm grabbing

1040
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 3: it while we're getting under field goal. I'll still like

1041
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,360
Speaker 3: it after that, but I definitely want to grab the line. First,

1042
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 3: short favorites coming off of bye week are fifty one

1043
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 3: and thirty two against the spread sixty one percent. Cover

1044
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 3: road favorites coming off of bye week are seventy one

1045
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 3: and fifty against the spread fifty Combine them short road

1046
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 3: favorites and it goes to sixty eight percent.

1047
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: So I like the Raiders a lot. I think this

1048
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 4: line is a really underratings. I'm here.

1049
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at it all.

1050
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: For me, I'm actually gonna go with another road team.

1051
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the New England Patriots minus two

1052
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: and a half andgings to Carolina Panthers. That actually may

1053
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 2: be up to three in some places, but I think

1054
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 2: you can find a cheap bod of minus two and

1055
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: a half. This is a two and a half one

1056
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,280
Speaker 2: of the sportsbooks I see right now. This is mainly

1057
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 2: a fade of PJ Walker, who could be starting at

1058
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: quarterback next week. I don't know if you guys recognized

1059
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: PJ Walker, but he played in the XFL. That's where

1060
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: he kind of built this claim to fame and got

1061
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 2: back into the NFL two seasons ago. But look, Sam

1062
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: Donald isn't anything to write home about. And I've said

1063
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 2: this before. There's only so long fakes thugs can pretend

1064
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: with Sam Donald. And he came out hot, and he

1065
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 2: played the first three games of the season great, and

1066
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: obviously he cooked the Atlanta Falcons today.

1067
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,240
Speaker 1: But he's not a great quarterback.

1068
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: He's thirtieth football outside of his DBOA, twenty fifth ESPNS QBR.

1069
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 2: He has seven touchdowns to eight interceptions, So anytime he's

1070
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 2: not playing a piss poor defense, he's not good.

1071
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 1: Now.

1072
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 2: PJ Walker is a significant downgrade and limited action. This

1073
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: year he has a negative dB away of ninety eight

1074
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: point one, and last season he had just a completion

1075
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 2: percentage of fifty seven percent with five interceptions and one touchdown.

1076
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 1: So put it blunt.

1077
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: PJ Walker is not good and he has to face

1078
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 2: a Bill Belichick led defense. Look, the Paranthers might as

1079
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: well be playing with one arm top behind their back,

1080
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 2: and I have to lay that number at two and

1081
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 2: a half three. I think this is really cheap with

1082
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,880
Speaker 2: a Patriots team is really playing well. Mac Jones is

1083
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 2: playing well, so I would.

1084
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Bet this up to three. So take the Patriots.

1085
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's rough when Sam Donald has been absolutely miserable

1086
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 3: for a month and he's out and we're like, oh no,

1087
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,239
Speaker 3: their quarterback situation gets worse. So we don't know if

1088
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 3: Donald is out yet. But whichever quarterback it is, you

1089
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 3: got Donald or pg O Walker and you got Bill Belichick.

1090
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Speaker 3: How many times do we need to keep seeing this

1091
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: sort of thing play out. It's not exactly a rookie,

1092
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: but it's not that much better.

1093
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 4: So I agree with you.

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 3: I love the Patriots here, especially if you can get

1095
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: that two and a half number. So I'm going to

1096
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 3: back you on another one. On Friday, on our look Ahead,

1097
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 3: you took the Texans. I wasn't quite ready to go

1098
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 3: to ride with Houston. Yet they're in Miami giving a

1099
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 3: touchdown right now, full seven. I'm ready to take them.

1100
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 3: So here's the reason, and it's two words. One name,

1101
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 3: Tarad Taylor. We think he should be back next week.

1102
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 3: I thought he might be back this week. I thought

1103
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:33,720
Speaker 3: he might pay back last week when I bet Houston

1104
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 3: plus a thousand against the Cardinals and then got crushed

1105
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 3: when David Smills can't score. This is a play on

1106
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 3: Torod Taylor. They're just so much better with him. They've

1107
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 3: scored almost a new point tell that garbage time today.

1108
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 3: They've scored more points with Torod Taylor in one and

1109
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 3: a half games and with Davis Smills in six and

1110
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:52,760
Speaker 3: a half games.

1111
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: So Houston.

1112
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,280
Speaker 3: The soft spot on the team especially is the run defense.

1113
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 3: Mimi can't run the ball. They're near the bottom the

1114
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,720
Speaker 3: league in deep rushing. There's a trend here that's pretty

1115
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 3: massive too. If you get a team a week five

1116
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 3: or later, so once we've really established and their average

1117
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 3: margin per game is minus fourteen or worse. So that's

1118
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 3: the tighter. That's the Texans here. They're obviously in rough

1119
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 3: shape minus fifteen point three right now. Those teams are

1120
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 3: getting way underrated in the books. Those teams are ninety

1121
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 3: four and forty eight against the spread sixty six percent.

1122
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 3: That's two out of three are covering there. So I

1123
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,719
Speaker 3: like Houston here. If Tarad Taylor plays, I think it

1124
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 3: could be an upset special possibility. We'll see about that.

1125
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: I would make this line maybe closer to four or

1126
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: something with Taylor in the lineup, So I think there's

1127
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 3: maybe a field goal of value here, especially if Taylor

1128
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 3: does get clear in the lineup, I do think the

1129
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 3: line will move toward Houston. So you gave this one

1130
00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 3: on Friday, I'm just doubling down. We're both on Houston

1131
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 3: for the week. Let's go Texans.

1132
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, I totally agree with you.

1133
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 2: Obviously. Look this is Miami defense. Last year they made

1134
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: a living off turnovers. They they generated the most turnovers

1135
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 2: and it just felt like every game you watch it,

1136
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 2: you had the defense scoring. But that hasn't been the

1137
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: case this year. They're twenty third in success rate Defensively,

1138
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 2: they're twenty eighth in EPA per play on defense. This

1139
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: defense can't stop anybody. And I'm gonna be honest with you,

1140
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 2: as much as I want Tyrod Taylor to play, I

1141
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 2: think there might be some value with the seven even

1142
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,280
Speaker 2: if Davis Mills plays.

1143
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: Because it's not like this Miami offense is that much better.

1144
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: Their twenty six in offense of success rate twenty seven

1145
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,800
Speaker 2: for EPA play. So I think the Texans, they have

1146
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 2: a veteran team, they're gonna find some success no matter

1147
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,240
Speaker 2: who's quarterbacking out there. Obviously I hope to see Tyrod Telller,

1148
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,319
Speaker 2: but I think you need to grab that number now

1149
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: because if Tyrod plays, that number is gonna drop. So

1150
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,120
Speaker 2: grab that a set. For my second play, I'm actually

1151
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna go with the Cleveland Browns plus three playing Cincinnati

1152
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 2: Bengals team that just gave a four hundred yards to

1153
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: Mike White and his first start and obviously the big

1154
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 2: letdown spot after coming off against Baltimore. But this Cleveland team,

1155
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: they're playing for their season and they're slowly starting to

1156
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: get healthy on all offitsive line the skilled players are

1157
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 2: getting healthy, and I think this is an ideal spot

1158
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 2: for Cleveland to go out there and possibly win this game. Outright,

1159
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: the band Wills, they've been solid, but they still have

1160
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: a coach is Zach Teller, who isn't the best. I

1161
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: think there's a coaching michmash between him and Stefanski. Vig

1162
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: shout and yupit. He actually won an IVY League championship

1163
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 2: while he was there, so you know, I'm a little

1164
00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 2: bit the Browns. I think plus three it's a good number.

1165
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 2: And then honestly, I want to sprinkle a little something

1166
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 2: on the money line.

1167
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,320
Speaker 4: Oh here we go an upset special.

1168
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:31,719
Speaker 3: I know you don't play a lot of these money

1169
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: line dogs, but hey, we talked about that trend and

1170
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 3: the brown spit the trend. Well, so that's a good

1171
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 3: spot for them. And will say this, Kevin Stefanski has

1172
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 3: yet to ever cover a division game. He's all in

1173
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 3: seven against the spread division game. So I can't ride

1174
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: with you yet. I might get there by the end

1175
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 3: of the week.

1176
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: He hasn't covered a single one, not even as a dog.

1177
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: None of them.

1178
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 3: He's all in seven against the spread. So wow, it's

1179
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 3: it's not a big sample, so we can't take too

1180
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 3: much of it. But like the goose egg in front

1181
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 3: of the number there. So I'm not with you yet

1182
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 3: on the Browns. I might join you later. I just

1183
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:07,839
Speaker 3: need to research a little bit more.

1184
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: But I actually, I mean that kind of makes sense

1185
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: because I mean, you got a who's in a division. Yeah,

1186
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is obviously dominant, so they have it.

1187
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 2: I don't think they've even beaten Ravens, so, I mean

1188
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,720
Speaker 2: the Ravens beat them twice last year, Fellers had owned

1189
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 2: them and then they probably were favorite, big favorites against

1190
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: the Bengals. So I don't know how many spots you'll

1191
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: see where the Browns are I say, three point dollars

1192
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 2: against the Bengals.

1193
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: So.

1194
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 4: That's true.

1195
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I do like that the Browns are getting healthy,

1196
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 3: you know that if it's been a mass for the

1197
00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 3: first half of the year.

1198
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 4: But it does seem like there this could be the spot,

1199
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 4: you know, this week.

1200
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: I like Pittsburgh. They're another team I loved on the

1201
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:49,879
Speaker 3: underdog and they came through. This was a spot where

1202
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 3: I thought Pittsburgh could maybe try to save their season

1203
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 3: and get back in the mix a little bit.

1204
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 4: As they were getting healthy.

1205
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 3: There might be the Browns turn now, so I won't

1206
00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 3: be surprised if I join you here once I look

1207
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 3: into a little bit more. It does seem like, especially

1208
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,480
Speaker 3: Division game three points on the road, we're seeing these

1209
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,400
Speaker 3: road dogs, so I may get there. I'm already almost

1210
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 3: there on this conversation right now.

1211
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: So this will definitely be a part of one of

1212
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 2: my teasers this week. I love teasing them through the

1213
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 2: key numbers of seven. I think this is a slam

1214
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: teaser spot for me right now.

1215
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Speaker 3: That is going to wrap it up today at the

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Speaker 3: run through the slate and the look ahead for Raheem Palmer.

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Speaker 3: I'm Brandon Anderson and this has been the Action Network podcast.

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