Speaker 1: It feels like like the victory lap of Netflix.
Speaker 2: So it's like you saw them down there.
Speaker 1: It's them being like we're king now, like we own everything. Look,
Speaker 1: and we're all even enjoying the you know, look we're
Speaker 1: dabbing up the rock.
Speaker 2: We're at the side.
Speaker 1: It felt very much like we own the industry now.
Speaker 2: Now you're mad. Even introducing the hosts a wrestling win
Speaker 2: far Ready, Jeff died and fready friends, Junior, what's up? Everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to a brand new episode of Wrestling with Friends.
Speaker 2: Mister Jeff dies with us, recently back from a successful
Speaker 2: trip in Florida. Congratulations on making people laugh all over
Speaker 2: the country. It's now time to make you guys laugh.
Speaker 2: It's time to make you mad. It's time to make
Speaker 2: you agree, It's time to make you pissed off. It's
Speaker 2: time to make you feel all the things that we
Speaker 2: hopefully make you feel every single week. We're going to
Speaker 2: start with Monday Night Raw. But first off, Jeff, how
Speaker 2: are you tell the people what's going feeling good?
Speaker 1: Sending all of our thoughts to the people in Los
Speaker 1: Angeles with the fires, Freddy. Also, I know that you're
Speaker 1: not in your home right now, but stressful, stressful few
Speaker 1: weeks for the people of Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: So anyways, yeah, sending our left lots of love to
Speaker 2: everybody out here. Hang as tough as you can, and
Speaker 2: when it gets too tough, find a quiet corner and
Speaker 2: shed a secret tear. We got love for you. I
Speaker 2: know not everybody's feeling the love right now, but if
Speaker 2: you're listening to this podcast, I don't know why you
Speaker 2: would because you're probably taking care of your families. But
Speaker 2: if you're listening to the podcast, we'll try to help
Speaker 2: you have a distraction for a little while. And there
Speaker 2: won't be a Thursday show this week. I just don't
Speaker 2: have time to record both episodes. I appreciate everybody understanding,
Speaker 2: or we're going to give you a nice long one
Speaker 2: or as long as we can. SmackDown didn't give us
Speaker 2: much but a recap of Monday Night Ross, so our
Speaker 2: best to fill this time and make you guys feel good.
Speaker 2: I'd also like to say this show is going to
Speaker 2: be dedicated to Penta because Penta's coming back, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 2: He's gone from aew. They're already selling his merch Seattle
Speaker 2: Metal Settle Miedo I said Seattle. That's not a word,
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's making a comeback. And my favorite type
Speaker 2: of wrestling istre, My favorite wrestlers are lucha ors. He's
Speaker 2: one of the coolest breaking luchadores out there. And I
Speaker 2: can't wait to hear a WWE crowd scream Settle in
Speaker 2: the middle of his match, and I just think that's
Speaker 2: just one of the coolest pops for me when that happens,
Speaker 2: and the aw crowds were really good at it. Ww
Speaker 2: crowd's gotta step your game up. You got to make
Speaker 2: sure you're in sync. I know it's a little more,
Speaker 2: it's a little different in WWE. That's a big part
Speaker 2: of his game. And if y'all f it up, it's
Speaker 2: not on him, it's on you.
Speaker 1: I want to say that I have learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: It's been forty one years of life and I've finally
Speaker 1: learned my lesson and I'm going to learn my lesson
Speaker 1: and practice it with Penta because here's the thing. My
Speaker 1: entire life, I'm always trying to see people's faces. You know,
Speaker 1: I was like what I was like, when am I
Speaker 1: gonna see Ray Mysterio's face?
Speaker 2: When am I gonna see it? And then ray.
Speaker 1: Masteria gets demasked and I was disappointed. I wish that
Speaker 1: I had never seen his face.
Speaker 2: Then Kane the mask comes off.
Speaker 1: I said, Kine, I want to see Kin's face. When
Speaker 1: am I going to see it? Then Kane has no mask,
Speaker 1: and I was like, I liked Kane better with a mask.
Speaker 1: I waited three Mortal Kombats to see what sub Zero
Speaker 1: looked like without his mask on.
Speaker 2: Then I finally got.
Speaker 1: Sub Zero, and I go I didn't want to see
Speaker 1: sub Zero without his mask. So let me just officially
Speaker 1: say I never want to see Penta's face. I should
Speaker 1: have just been following the rules the whole time with
Speaker 1: these masks, and I'm excited to watch Penta not only
Speaker 1: come back to w B where he might be paid
Speaker 1: better and appreciated better, I'm excited about him keeping his
Speaker 1: mask on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Lucia, Doris, keep your masks. The son of
Speaker 2: a bitch, try to take it off. Just call me.
Speaker 2: I'll come down. I got your back. I'll run in
Speaker 2: from the crowd. I can beat securities, ass, don't even
Speaker 2: worry about that. Get in there. I got your back.
Speaker 2: So ww Raw debuted on Netflix. I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: go ww for whatever reason made it super difficult. But
Speaker 2: I do want to say Netflix tried to step in
Speaker 2: at the last minute, and they really tried to help
Speaker 2: us out, and they offered us some tickets, but I
Speaker 2: had a group of eight it was mainly kids, and
Speaker 2: they just couldn't provide us enough seats together because it
Speaker 2: was so last minute for and I couldn't split the
Speaker 2: kids up because that would be dumb, and I couldn't
Speaker 2: leave them unattended because they're very young. So we just
Speaker 2: weren't able to go. But I did want to thank
Speaker 2: Netflix for trying. Wwe Man, you guys were weird, and
Speaker 2: I hope next time you guys aren't so weird. But
Speaker 2: now Netflix runs stuff. I have friends over there, and
Speaker 2: if you guys still want to be weird with me,
Speaker 2: that's cool, and I'll just I'll just talk to Netflix.
Speaker 2: The show started off with Roman reigns and Solo Sokoa
Speaker 2: finally paying off this story line that really was just
Speaker 2: a huge shot in the arm to the bloodline storyline.
Speaker 2: You got to remember, this has been going back over
Speaker 2: eight years, and to be able to keep a story
Speaker 2: this compelling for people for this long is incredibly hard
Speaker 2: to do. It's hard to do on network television, it's
Speaker 2: hard to do on streaming services, and it's the hardest
Speaker 2: to do in a professional wrestling format where storylines and
Speaker 2: characters can literally just get erased, especially in WWE. It
Speaker 2: doesn't happen so much in aw although they sometimes struggle
Speaker 2: to have a storage period unless it's like they're top guys.
Speaker 2: It's really hard to do this in WWE because if
Speaker 2: you have like one bad week of television where they
Speaker 2: don't feel the crowds behind it, they'll just remove your
Speaker 2: character and change your name. They'll literally change your name
Speaker 2: and make you be someone else, which is psychotic to me.
Speaker 2: They did it while I work there, They've done it
Speaker 2: since I've worked there. They did it before I work there.
Speaker 2: For them to stay this consistent and stay this true
Speaker 2: to that story and those characters is commendable. I don't
Speaker 2: want this to be a compliment that sounds like an insult.
Speaker 2: I want this to be a company. I'm very grateful
Speaker 2: as a fan of wrestling. They've stayed, they've stayed the course,
Speaker 2: and they always have someone sort of steering this ship
Speaker 2: in positive directions. Did you think that's a thing? One
Speaker 2: hundred percent one hundred percent. I saw Triple H fight
Speaker 2: for stories in production meetings against Vince and Kevin Dunn
Speaker 2: and Kevin Dunwood, because Kevin Dune would kill things all
Speaker 2: the time, and it was shocking to me that he
Speaker 2: had that much power over creative stuff when when he
Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily like a story guy. He was he was
Speaker 2: the director of the show for those that don't know,
Speaker 2: but he would just be like, that guy's boring, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, that guy's career was over done done,
Speaker 2: And Triple H was one of the only wrestlers or
Speaker 2: high level guys like the creative teams always fought PS
Speaker 2: three Bird Hayes always fought Martin Anderson would always fight
Speaker 2: for his guy like everybody will fight. But Hunter was
Speaker 2: the one that would get listened to the most because
Speaker 2: he's the son in law of the of the boss.
Speaker 2: But a lot of times Vince would just shut him
Speaker 2: down to and you would see careers just get smashed on.
Speaker 2: So I think consistency is something that Triple H knows
Speaker 2: is important, and that's why we've seen such an improvement
Speaker 2: in the brand since Vince was gone. Not to say
Speaker 2: Vince didn't do quality things too, because sometimes he did,
Speaker 2: but very often these things would just die after two
Speaker 2: three weeks instead of allowing a story to develop and
Speaker 2: allowing a character develop organically. If it didn't work in
Speaker 2: the first couple of weeks, that was gone and all
Speaker 2: the work that everyone put in was just wasted. So yeah, man,
Speaker 2: I think that's one hundred percent of Triple Age thing.
Speaker 2: But this match was awesome. First of all. I think
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if there was a match that
Speaker 2: wasn't awesome, even the finishes that I didn't like, the
Speaker 2: matches were still great. This was fantastic. There were run
Speaker 2: ins from other members of the New Evil bloodline, there
Speaker 2: were members of the old Super Nice Cool blood line.
Speaker 2: Kevin Owens came in there with an f you to
Speaker 2: Roman Reigns because he hates Roman Reigns, and then he
Speaker 2: took that story to SmackDown, where him and Cody Rhodes
Speaker 2: continue to fight. We can get in to that if
Speaker 2: we have time, but this match was super cool. Roman
Speaker 2: Rains hit him with a couple of spears, put them
Speaker 2: through a table one two three on the pin the
Speaker 2: Rock who came out early and got a baby based reaction.
Speaker 2: He leaned into it. He got a lot of love
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles, and he came out and he took
Speaker 2: the lafalla from Paul Hayman and he put it around
Speaker 2: the neck of Roman Reigns, where it rightfully belongs. Jay.
Speaker 2: It should either be on the neck of Jeff Die
Speaker 2: or Roman Reigns. Those are the only two men worthy enough.
Speaker 2: I like that. But yeah, man, this was a ton
Speaker 2: of fun and it was a great sort of end
Speaker 2: of a chapter in this book. It's like reading those
Speaker 2: Harry Potter books, like the last two were so friggin
Speaker 2: long and like you'd end a chapter and like the
Speaker 2: chapter felt like you read a whole book. That's what
Speaker 2: this kind of was. And I don't know why I'm
Speaker 2: relating it to Harry Potter, but they're both for kids
Speaker 2: and fantasy stuff and I like all that. But I
Speaker 2: really like this match. I'm looking forward to seeing where
Speaker 2: the story's going to go next, because they really haven't
Speaker 2: let anyone down even once since the Bloodline Briggin started.
Speaker 2: They haven't. I don't think they've made a misstep. Jet
Speaker 2: I can't think of a story part of the story
Speaker 2: where I was like ef or men or oh that
Speaker 2: sucked I've always just great. That's dope. Yeah, it's always
Speaker 2: been great.
Speaker 1: I was a little hopeful that maybe you we would
Speaker 1: get some sort of rock Roman Reigns beef, you know,
Speaker 1: like kind of something that would suggest that that's down
Speaker 1: the line, and we did get that on Monday. But
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's not gonna happen. It's just like
Speaker 1: I kind of thought that, Oh Netflix, Monday night, I thought.
Speaker 2: But it was still really awesome and really good.
Speaker 1: I love that it felt like you got like a
Speaker 1: little glimpse into each chapter of the stories that they've
Speaker 1: already told, where you had Sammy's Ain come out, you
Speaker 1: had you had each kind of part of it, which
Speaker 1: I which I really liked, and so really really really
Speaker 1: masterfully done.
Speaker 2: I loved it. I do want to shout out one
Speaker 2: person that was in the crowd because he got the
Speaker 2: biggest pop of the night, and that's my friend Macaulay
Speaker 2: Culkin admitted to the show, and the crowd was so
Speaker 2: high for him and the way he kind of presented
Speaker 2: himself with so much cooler that. I love Seth too,
Speaker 2: But Matt got the biggest pop of the night. It
Speaker 2: was it was so he got a bigger pop than Hogan. Well,
Speaker 2: I guess they hated Hogan, but they loved Matt so
Speaker 2: balanced now, but he got the biggest pop of the night.
Speaker 2: That made me laugh a lot. I really wish I
Speaker 2: could have been there. It would have been fun, but
Speaker 2: it didn't work out anyway. Triple Edge came out and
Speaker 2: talked they thank their new Netflix executives, which was a
Speaker 2: little weird to me. That breaking. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it was weird to anyone else, but I kind of
Speaker 2: don't want to know about the people behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: I don't want to know about the executives behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: There was a time when executives didn't do interviews, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, where agents and managers didn't do interviews.
Speaker 2: That stopped in the early two thousands when they kind
Speaker 2: of wanted to get famous too, so they started doing interviews.
Speaker 2: I remember reading one where his agent was taking credit
Speaker 2: for this other actors basically entire career. And I was
Speaker 2: friends with the actor. I'm like, yo, did you read this?
Speaker 2: He goes, yeah, that's that guy's not my agent anymore.
Speaker 2: I inspired him. I was just he leit. He was like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe you know now that we represent and we can
Speaker 2: take him to the next level. I'm like, you don't
Speaker 2: do that. He's famous. All you do is say yes
Speaker 2: or no. The scripts that come in, Like it's one
Speaker 2: thing if you're building an actor up from the ground up.
Speaker 2: But this dude was a stab or it was a woman. Actually,
Speaker 2: this woman was established and they had kind of made
Speaker 2: her bones in the business already, like you know, she's
Speaker 2: the top shell b actor. It's like, what are we
Speaker 2: talking about here. So that's always a little weird to
Speaker 2: me when when they put the spotlight on on the people,
Speaker 2: you know, behind the scenes. But the crowd didn't seem
Speaker 2: to hate it. They didn't boo any of the executives.
Speaker 2: If I really thought they were gonna but they but
Speaker 2: they didn't. So that was good. So it was all
Speaker 2: love and it felt good. But we'll get into some
Speaker 2: more rest.
Speaker 1: It feels like like the victory lap of Netflix. So
Speaker 1: it's like you saw them down there. It's them being
Speaker 1: like we're king now, like we own everything. Look and
Speaker 1: we're all even enjoying the you know, look, we're dabbing
Speaker 1: up the rock.
Speaker 2: We're at a side.
Speaker 1: It felt very much like we own the industry now.
Speaker 1: That is what it felt like, to me, like a
Speaker 1: big party, like it's opening night and we're gonna sit
Speaker 1: in the front.
Speaker 2: And it did feel like a party. And you know,
Speaker 2: the the wrestling fan in me, who's very cynical, goes, man,
Speaker 2: this is probably the first wrestling show they ever saw.
Speaker 2: And then the optimist in me goes, hey, man, this
Speaker 2: is probably the first wrestling show they ever saw. And
Speaker 2: I'm a little like split and torn on, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. In one way, it's good because we're
Speaker 2: introducing new people to wrestling, and hopefully they connected to
Speaker 2: one of these characters and they like it and they
Speaker 2: want to bring their kids to a show, or maybe
Speaker 2: they even't want to watch once in a while. But
Speaker 2: then the cynic in me is like, man, they're just
Speaker 2: here for the for the pot. So I don't know
Speaker 2: which one is right. I definitely had both feelings at the.
Speaker 1: Same I thought they were the mean street posse down there,
Speaker 1: you know, That's what it looked like.
Speaker 2: Were these guys that when Shane McMahon just pops his
Speaker 2: head in hell, yeah, you go, what is it? All right?
Speaker 2: Let's talk some wrestling. Well, let's talk about one of
Speaker 2: our favorites, real Rickley and Morgan battled for the women's championship. Finally,
Speaker 2: both women are healthy, no injuries, thank god. Storyline has
Speaker 2: been good. It's had ups and downs because of injuries,
Speaker 2: though not by any fault of the creative team or
Speaker 2: any fault of the talent, simply injuries that slowed things down.
Speaker 2: Dominic's awesome. I know he's a heel, but he's my
Speaker 2: favorite babyface in professional wrestling because that to me, he's
Speaker 2: the victim in this and he's torn between two women
Speaker 2: that are both manipulative. It's just one is manipulative for
Speaker 2: herself and the other's manipulative for herself. But Dominic is
Speaker 2: a victim in this. Just remember that. Show some sympathy
Speaker 2: for him. His mustache is glorious, His mullet's glorious. Man
Speaker 2: loves chicken Tenders, And I don't care what you people say.
Speaker 2: You know you love chicken tenders too, so don't even
Speaker 2: act like you don't, Jeff, you like chicken tenders, right,
Speaker 2: everybody likes chicken tenders. So they had a match. They wrestle,
Speaker 2: and finally the belt is back around the waste of
Speaker 2: the most excellent, biggest, baddest, meanest looking woman. She looks
Speaker 2: like she could beat up the whole roster. Rear Ripley.
Speaker 2: I just got back from Australia. She's Australian. I got
Speaker 2: a lot of love for the people down there. Let
Speaker 2: me tell you something. Everyone in Australia looks like her.
Speaker 2: All the women are smoking hot, they're all in great shape.
Speaker 2: All the dudes are in great shape. They're all good looking.
Speaker 2: I asked a buddy who I made friends with when
Speaker 2: I was down there. I was like, how come everybody
Speaker 2: in such great freaking shape in Australia. He goes, first
Speaker 2: of all, we're not. He's like, our older people are.
Speaker 2: He goes, but we have sports once a week. We
Speaker 2: have pe every day, but we have one day a
Speaker 2: week where it's all sports. We don't do any academics.
Speaker 2: It's just a sports day. I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 2: why you guys rock at the Summer Olympics. That's what
Speaker 2: you got. Yeah, so they really focus on their physical
Speaker 2: fitness there. Real Ripley is super fit. I think she
Speaker 2: was a volleyball player before she was a professional wrestler.
Speaker 2: But she's awesome, man, She's the champ. They're gonna have
Speaker 2: Monday Night Row Tonight we record these on Mondays, so
Speaker 2: I'm really looking forward to her promo. I'm looking forward
Speaker 2: to seeing what's next for her. But I think it
Speaker 2: could still be live because Becky's not back yet, so
Speaker 2: I don't know who would fill that spot. Did you
Speaker 2: have any ideas as to what's next or were you
Speaker 2: just kind of living in the moment and enjoying it? Oh?
Speaker 2: I was loving it.
Speaker 1: I love Ria Ripley. I have so many thoughts on
Speaker 1: this match. But I thought that Becky was gonna come back.
Speaker 1: That's what I guessed, or I assumed, was like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this is Monday night, Rob, we got Netflix, We'll see
Speaker 1: Becky come back in here and you know, stand off
Speaker 1: or maybe stand up at the top of the ramp
Speaker 1: and look at Rio Ripley. You know now that she
Speaker 1: has the belt around her waist, But we didn't get that,
Speaker 1: so I was very confused.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that maybe that was supposed to happen
Speaker 2: and then they switched it last minute for the undertaker spot.
Speaker 2: Did you hear that? Because I kind of saw a
Speaker 2: little bit of that online.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't hear that. I just assumed there'd be
Speaker 1: some chick. I assumed Becky, but like I thought. I
Speaker 1: thought there'd be some woman, you know, Jade Cargill, somebody
Speaker 1: would come down and do like a spot. I thought
Speaker 1: the underthink Undertaker thing was insane to me. Why what,
Speaker 1: what the hell does they came out of nowhere?
Speaker 2: If I know what they were trying to do, Like
Speaker 2: they're saying, like he's the legend, He's going to give
Speaker 2: her the rub, but I didn't think she needed the rub,
Speaker 2: and also rather Becky come out. Yeah, it was a
Speaker 2: little off off putting because I was kind of like,
Speaker 2: well was he do? He just did a hot lap
Speaker 2: and then yeah, I said, way to go, Really your badass?
Speaker 2: Like I already think we as badass. I didn't think
Speaker 2: needed an extra rub.
Speaker 1: I went, I love the Undertaker and I love the
Speaker 1: American badass? How does that coincide with each other? I
Speaker 1: like all the parties involved, but I'm going, what is happening?
Speaker 1: But I just expected a woman.
Speaker 2: I thought.
Speaker 1: I hoped for Becky to come out and kind of
Speaker 1: kind of give us a peak of what's next now
Speaker 1: that Ria's champ. So yeah, I was confused by that.
Speaker 1: But I will say that real Ripley Live Morgan match
Speaker 1: was awesome. I really enjoyed it, which I'm pretty critical
Speaker 1: of female wrestling, and I really enjoyed the entire match.
Speaker 1: I also love that Ria hit her with her finishing
Speaker 1: move so many times. It felt it felt like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm always I'm always trying to get back to the
Speaker 1: circus days of wrestling, like I want like a feet
Speaker 1: of strength, and it looked like Ria was like getting
Speaker 1: fatigued giving her her finishing move every single time.
Speaker 2: It was so good. Yeah, the mat was a great
Speaker 2: story man. Yeah, And I don't think that was her
Speaker 2: genuinely fatigued at all. I really think that was a
Speaker 2: conscious choice by her showing it's getting harder and harder
Speaker 2: as the matches goes longer and longer. That I've seen
Speaker 2: them do that even when I work there, like the
Speaker 2: agents that for those who don't know the term agent.
Speaker 2: Most of you guys are are hardcore fans, so you don't,
Speaker 2: but bear with me. For the ones who don't, they're
Speaker 2: like the fight choreographer, and they're usually old school wrestlers.
Speaker 2: Usually they're always old school wrestlers, and that's something that
Speaker 2: they would I saw like guys like Orna Anderson and
Speaker 2: Dean Malenko talk about with the younger wrestlers when I
Speaker 2: was there, and I would watch them kind of coach
Speaker 2: these these these young wrestlers through those types of of
Speaker 2: conscious choices, like make yourself look tired because they do
Speaker 2: wrestl so they can rest up, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So there was no there was no. I don't think
Speaker 2: there was genuine fatigue there. I just think Ria is
Speaker 2: that good and makes us be Yeah. Man, she's a stud.
Speaker 2: She's a total stud. All right, enough with the ladies. Ladies,
Speaker 2: you got some time. But now it's time to talk
Speaker 2: about some dudes. Two dudes that are pretty great on
Speaker 2: the microphone. Two dudes that hate each other. No they do,
Speaker 2: but they made us think that they do. And that's
Speaker 2: seth Rollins and see him punk. I was wrong on this,
Speaker 2: but I want to talk about why I was wrong,
Speaker 2: And I don't quite know. This is going to sort
Speaker 2: of be free for him, and I'm just kind of
Speaker 2: throwing this off there. When I worked there, there was
Speaker 2: a philosophy that the older dudes all kind of agreed with,
Speaker 2: which is that now it's time to put the younger
Speaker 2: guys over. Now it's time to I've had my time,
Speaker 2: Now it's your time. I'm gonna give you a great match,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put you over. And that still seems
Speaker 2: to exist in W W E and AE W a lot,
Speaker 2: except with Cmpunk. And I'm I'm telling everyone this right now,
Speaker 2: I'm never betting against Cmpunk again, whether I think he
Speaker 2: should lose or not, because he's never gonna lose the war.
Speaker 2: He might use a battle, but he's never gonna lose
Speaker 2: a war. And I guess he's gonna be Champ again,
Speaker 2: which is weird to me because he's an older dude,
Speaker 2: and just that that old school philosophy of like the
Speaker 2: guys like Arn Anderson, Dean Maliko and all those guys
Speaker 2: that when I when I worked there, Fit Finley, all
Speaker 2: these guys, you know, they were there in the later
Speaker 2: part of their career to make sure to either put
Speaker 2: over the new guy or to help solidify the established
Speaker 2: dudes as as the man now. And I guess Sampunk's
Speaker 2: wants to still be the man, and it wants to
Speaker 2: be the lead of the movie, so to speak, and
Speaker 2: he's going to be. That just has to be something
Speaker 2: that they worked out before he signed. Because it happened
Speaker 2: with Dream, It's gonna happen with Seth. It's gonna happen
Speaker 2: with whoever's next for him, and I guess he's gonna
Speaker 2: be Champ, which is cool for Sampunk fans. It's just
Speaker 2: weird to me because it seems to break this rule
Speaker 2: or this understanding that the older generation had when I
Speaker 2: worked there. But things evolve and change, and maybe I'm
Speaker 2: just outdated and don't know, but I know this. I'm
Speaker 2: not betting against him again, even if I think he should.
Speaker 2: I thought he should have lost that match. I thought
Speaker 2: it should have been Seth rawlins. I could already see
Speaker 2: that the promo that Seth was gonna cut on Monday,
Speaker 2: Son of a bitch. I did what I said I
Speaker 2: was going to do. And now, like all the promises
Speaker 2: that Seth made it, his promos are breaken promises and
Speaker 2: a baby face can't have that, at least that's how
Speaker 2: I was taught. So I guess maybe they're gonna turn
Speaker 2: him heal because the healed promises can get broken all
Speaker 2: the time, or maybe they're not and he's just gonna
Speaker 2: be the badass guy. But it was weird to see
Speaker 2: set lose for me. I know most people were excited
Speaker 2: because everybody loves see him Punk, but I really thought
Speaker 2: Seth should have won that match. What did you think?
Speaker 1: I agree with what you're saying, But I also I
Speaker 1: don't think that CM punk sees himself as the old guy.
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think that CM punk has ever followed any
Speaker 1: sort of quote unquote wrestling.
Speaker 2: Rules about that. That's kind yeah, yeah, beats to his
Speaker 2: own drum.
Speaker 1: He is the Punk of wrestling, and so I think
Speaker 1: for him, it's like maybe in ten years we'll see
Speaker 1: him put someone over, or he's.
Speaker 2: Still wrestling in ten years, and that would be insane
Speaker 2: to me. I just that's crazy. You're probably prappy.
Speaker 1: He will, He'll come out even if he's not doing
Speaker 1: a match every single week, he'll still be in wrestling.
Speaker 1: You know, we still see Rick Flair and Hulk Cogan
Speaker 1: and all these guys. So you know, even even see
Speaker 1: him Punk, I'm not falling for this or not see
Speaker 1: him by John Cena, even the John Sam, I'm not
Speaker 1: falling for this. Like it's my final tour. It isn't.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be around, You're gonna come back every three weeks.
Speaker 1: It's like they never go anywhere.
Speaker 2: I say it, Yeah, you're right, you talk me off
Speaker 2: the Brian Danielson ledge with this when I was like, no,
Speaker 2: he's gone, and you're like, dude, he's not gone.
Speaker 1: If they die, we get to mourn them. Other than that,
Speaker 1: that's it. So I don't know. I think it'll be interesting.
Speaker 1: I think this CEM Punk still has a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff he wants to do and doesn't really see him
Speaker 1: in the chapter of putting wrestlers over. And also I
Speaker 1: don't even know who he'd be, like a good sport
Speaker 1: enough to put over. If we sat down and had
Speaker 1: cigars with see him Punk, he'd be like I hate
Speaker 1: so and so, and I hate so and so, and
Speaker 1: I feel like he'd be one of these guys.
Speaker 2: What do you mean you guys smoke. I don't smoke.
Speaker 2: I'm straight edge. I was shocked the seth lost just
Speaker 2: like you. Yeah, it was, it was it was Look,
Speaker 2: it was an awesome match, Like it was one of
Speaker 2: the best matches I've seen this year. This year's been short,
Speaker 2: but in the last years because they're both awesome in
Speaker 2: the ring, they both sell like nobody's business. They both
Speaker 2: can make your punches look like you got hit by
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson in his prime. Not Mike Tyson against Jake Paul.
Speaker 2: That's not that was but like the real Mike Tyson
Speaker 2: fights like they both they both sell like mugs right,
Speaker 2: like they do miss quality selling the guys that can
Speaker 2: put anyone over, and they were putting each other over
Speaker 2: the whole match. I just thought the finish was strange.
Speaker 2: But again, I was taught by the old school guys,
Speaker 2: and so that's why my brain is kind of wired
Speaker 2: the way their brains were wired. Because I didn't know
Speaker 2: shit about the wrestling business outside of the fact that
Speaker 2: I liked it. When I got to WWE, and I
Speaker 2: relied on a lot of those agents and the Arn't
Speaker 2: Anderson's of the world and the Michael P. S Hayes's
Speaker 2: of the world, and all all those guys. They were
Speaker 2: all really good to me. I know I'm forgetting some
Speaker 2: of them, but it's just because I didn't know we
Speaker 2: were even going to be talking about this. Again, this
Speaker 2: is all kind of off my head. Been a little
Speaker 2: distracted this week. But yeah, it was a great match.
Speaker 2: I just I wanted a different finish. But that's you know,
Speaker 2: that's what keeps you watching. You want to see what
Speaker 2: you want to get, what you want out of it,
Speaker 2: and you hope you're gonna get it every week, and
Speaker 2: most of the time we do. I would like to
Speaker 2: see I say this a lot, man, I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to beat a dead horse, but I would like to
Speaker 2: see more stories and to have I want Powerhouse Hobbs
Speaker 2: to get the push, but I wouldn't call what's happening
Speaker 2: with Powerhouse Hobbs to push. He's just next in line
Speaker 2: for Mosley, and there's not enough of a story here
Speaker 2: to make me believe Hobbs can win that match. There's
Speaker 2: not enough of a reason for them to fight outside
Speaker 2: of they were in another not a tournament, but a
Speaker 2: casino match, whatever it was, to be the next number
Speaker 2: one contender, I would I really like the stories, and
Speaker 2: they have people that tell great ones, so I know
Speaker 2: they can do it, but there's no story here, so
Speaker 2: I don't believe Powerhouse Hobbs can win either. To me,
Speaker 2: the story would have been how do we be MVP?
Speaker 2: And it would be how do I get Powerhouse Hobbs
Speaker 2: into the Hurt Syndicate and that would be a cool story.
Speaker 2: How do I convince this dude to join? How do
Speaker 2: I convince this dude to be a part of what
Speaker 2: we're trying to put together. I could get behind that
Speaker 2: and I could believe in that dude, and that, to me,
Speaker 2: would be more of an entry point to get him
Speaker 2: towards a championship where you see MVP starting to hustle
Speaker 2: for his guys and say no, no, no, no, my guy's decks,
Speaker 2: my guy's decks. Now, maybe they don't want to do
Speaker 2: that because they have Bobby and he's going to be
Speaker 2: the one eventually to charge for the titles. But yeah, man,
Speaker 2: it's it's tough when they just kind of say, and
Speaker 2: next week it's a championship match and it's a game,
Speaker 2: it's you, and it's almost like they're playing Duck Dug goose,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I would much rather
Speaker 2: see just an entry point for these It doesn't have
Speaker 2: to be a six week story from the championship. It
Speaker 2: could be a two week story that totally works. A
Speaker 2: two week story's fine. So short stories work. They get
Speaker 2: turned into movies all the time. So I would have
Speaker 2: liked to see that. And I know I say this
Speaker 2: a lot, and maybe it's just not a w's thing.
Speaker 2: Maybe I just need to accept that they're more about
Speaker 2: the match and less about the story. The only argument
Speaker 2: to that would be, well, look at the great storytellers.
Speaker 2: They still tell stories on ad W and the Cmpunk
Speaker 2: Max Friedman storyline is still my favorite storyline in the
Speaker 2: last ten fifteen years. I liked it more than the
Speaker 2: bloodline story. That whole bit when he talked when he
Speaker 2: came out and he talked about like the football team, saying,
Speaker 2: pick up those quarters, jew boy, pick them up like
Speaker 2: and then to flip it and kick see them Punk
Speaker 2: in the falls at the end of that story, Like,
Speaker 2: I was just completely taken by that, and he tricked me.
Speaker 2: F you for tricking me, by the way, Max, But
Speaker 2: that was great, Like, it was really good storytelling, and
Speaker 2: I just would love to see more of that. That said,
Speaker 2: Max isn't another story, and it looks like it's gonna
Speaker 2: be the end of Jeff Jarrett, which will be kind
Speaker 2: of cool. It's something it look gets hard because the
Speaker 2: older guys can't work the way that the younger guys
Speaker 2: can work. But Max is such a good storyteller that
Speaker 2: I don't underestimate what he's capable of pulling off. I
Speaker 2: just don't and I genuinely think he can pull this
Speaker 2: off and give us a solid match with Jared and
Speaker 2: give us a great reason why it may not be
Speaker 2: the best match, but the reason why they're fighting. I
Speaker 2: think everyone will care about and I think he'll get
Speaker 2: some people to pull for Jeff, Jared and Hope and believe.
Speaker 2: I think he'll be able to pull that off. If
Speaker 2: anyone can do it. It's not going to be easy,
Speaker 2: but if anyone can do it, it will be MJF
Speaker 2: and I like watching everything. He's at home. I know
Speaker 2: I kind of talked about eight different things here, Jeff,
Speaker 2: So whatever you want to throw in.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just gonna say it could be because
Speaker 1: they WB put so much effort into making sure that
Speaker 1: the Monday Night Raw was great because of Netflix that
Speaker 1: it really made AW seem underwhelming. So I'm aware of that,
Speaker 1: But man, AW has been tough to watch for me
Speaker 1: this week. I'm hoping that it's because I came off
Speaker 1: of this huge Netflix spectacle where they brought out every star.
Speaker 1: It felt like I was playing with my wrestling toys again,
Speaker 1: like it was only the biggest stars wrestling each other.
Speaker 1: So maybe it felt like that, but it's They're gonna
Speaker 1: have to figure out something over there. At AEW because
Speaker 1: it feels like currently, at least in the last few
Speaker 1: weeks or months, that WWE is beaten. That ass is
Speaker 1: what it feels like to me. I don't, I can't
Speaker 1: really you know me do. I always try to be
Speaker 1: mister positivity on this and I try to be as
Speaker 1: as kindly critical as possible, But I can really poke
Speaker 1: any holes and what you said there, I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I got my needle out trying to poke. Yeah, looks good.
Speaker 1: The competition brings out the best in both, so I
Speaker 1: hope that they answer back.
Speaker 2: Will Osprey is still the man. Will Osprey can still
Speaker 2: talk on the mic with Malachi Black looking like he's
Speaker 2: about to leave AEW, his contracts almost stuff. We might
Speaker 2: get a push. I hope they push it nice and
Speaker 2: slow and they don't force them right into a championship
Speaker 2: match right away. But it looks like we're going to
Speaker 2: get a push out of Buddy Matthews, Ria Ripley's husband
Speaker 2: or boyfriend fiance. I don't know they love each other.
Speaker 2: I know they love each other. I just don't know
Speaker 2: their status. That was Alexa Blisses X too. Oh, I
Speaker 2: didn't know that. Nice Well, we know his type. He
Speaker 2: likes wrestlers like romans. His body is one of the
Speaker 2: best in the business. He looks so awesome. I wish
Speaker 2: I looked like him. If I looked like Buddy Matthews
Speaker 2: back in the day, I'm too old now, but back
Speaker 2: in the day, you know, your boy would have been Batman, right,
Speaker 2: you know your boy, it would have been bad one.
Speaker 2: My boy could already be Batman. You're the fucking best almost.
Speaker 1: And the second of all, you're like double the height
Speaker 1: of Buddy Matthews.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's doubled the wind.
Speaker 1: I know. Hey, we all got our gifts. We all
Speaker 1: play with the gifts God gave us, you know, but
Speaker 1: you get height. He's sim He's somewhere listening and going, Man,
Speaker 1: I wish I was six four and we're over here going.
Speaker 1: We're all tall, six four guys going. I wish we
Speaker 1: were strong and ripped like Buddy.
Speaker 2: It's all. It doesn't matter, bro, my man is six
Speaker 2: four wide. I'm like three feet wide. But I would
Speaker 2: like to see. I really like Buddy Matthews for a
Speaker 2: long time. We don't talk about him a lot, but
Speaker 2: he seems like he's got everything. I don't know too
Speaker 2: much about his mic work, I have to like go
Speaker 2: back and watch watch them promos. But as far as
Speaker 2: his work in the ring, top shelf, body, top shelf,
Speaker 2: his look is super super cool and he's he's experimented
Speaker 2: with different looks, like he was not a House of
Speaker 2: Black type vibe when he first was in WW. He
Speaker 2: was basically the opposite of that, and he looked great
Speaker 2: doing that too, So I'd like to see that. It'd
Speaker 2: be good to get some new blood pumping in there
Speaker 2: and give some new bushes to guys like Powerhouse Hops,
Speaker 2: who I think deserves a real push, not just a
Speaker 2: sacrificial land push. To give Buddy Matthews a nice slow
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he goes after the inter Intercontinental where
Speaker 2: they call it the international title. So many freaking titles
Speaker 2: you're going after a title. I'd like to see him
Speaker 2: go after a mid card title first, and hopefully they
Speaker 2: don't put him into the main events stuff right away.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I like Buddy Matthews a lot, and I
Speaker 2: hope for good things. I'm not going to get too
Speaker 2: much into the rest of AEW because it just didn't
Speaker 2: grab It just didn't grab me, and it might be
Speaker 2: because I've been stressed out. It might be because of the
Speaker 2: Netflix thing. It might be their fault. I don't know
Speaker 2: whose fault it is, but yeah, SmackDown was what it was.
Speaker 2: It was three hours. It felt like a highlight show
Speaker 2: for the Monday night Raw. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: the Cody Ruins Kevin own stuff was really really cool.
Speaker 2: I friggin love Kevin Owens. Dude, like he can be
Speaker 2: in any kind of match and he's gonna make you
Speaker 2: give a shit just because his promos are so good
Speaker 2: and he gives you And here's les's unique about Kevin.
Speaker 2: He gives you his point of view every time he speaks.
Speaker 2: So in this instance with Cody Rhodes, he's in the wrong,
Speaker 2: but according to him, and you can even see it
Speaker 2: on his T shirts, it says Kevin was right and
Speaker 2: then he tells you why every single time, and you
Speaker 2: remember and it makes you go, oh, I don't agree
Speaker 2: with this dude, but I see where he's coming from,
Speaker 2: which I'm very prone to do just in my life
Speaker 2: in real life, Like I may not agree with something
Speaker 2: someone says, but I'll try to find out where they're
Speaker 2: coming from, or I can understand where they're coming from
Speaker 2: and go, yeah, we just agree to disagree. I know
Speaker 2: we're not allowed to do that anymore because of social
Speaker 2: media and you have to either like something or not
Speaker 2: like it. But I don't give a shit. So I'm
Speaker 2: old and I don't care about that stuff. So I
Speaker 2: loved his promo on the stairs as he was coming
Speaker 2: down through the crowd and mean, like, how could you
Speaker 2: still stick up for the son of a bitch Roman
Speaker 2: Reigns after everything he did, And you just see Cody
Speaker 2: stewing and stewing in truth. He's stewing in truth because
Speaker 2: the truth fucking hurts, doesn't it. Cody groes, how he
Speaker 2: gonna help somebody that ft you over like that? Oh
Speaker 2: you're gonna forgive and forget? Screw that. We hold on
Speaker 2: to grudges for life in the wrestling business, and Kevin
Speaker 2: Owens is no exception. Kevin Owens still has the greatest
Speaker 2: moment of the year when he rolled up the window
Speaker 2: on Michael Cole and Michael Cole was trying to interview him.
Speaker 2: That's still the greatest moment of the year. That made
Speaker 2: me laugh so much. But this was awesome. Cody just
Speaker 2: said screw it. They went full w CW style. He
Speaker 2: ran out of the ring. They fought in the crowd.
Speaker 2: It was awesome. I love when it gets out of
Speaker 2: the ring and spills into the fans. I think that's
Speaker 2: the coolest shit. Every show I've been to, I've wanted
Speaker 2: one of those fights to spell out to where I
Speaker 2: am so that I could be on camera going yeah,
Speaker 2: kick is that as kind of It's never happened once.
Speaker 2: They've never even gotten close to me. It's it's I
Speaker 2: want that to happen more than I want to catch
Speaker 2: a foul ball at a baseball game. Really, and I'd
Speaker 2: probably want the foul ball or the home run.
Speaker 1: I've caught a foul ball. I checked it off the list.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, you really have. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: the best moment of Unicorn. That's like I know that
Speaker 1: people want be like, where are you tripping out so hard?
Speaker 2: Pretty? You don't understand that's like finding a unicorn. There's
Speaker 2: fifty thousand people in the stands and you were the
Speaker 2: one that caught the ball.
Speaker 1: Well, they made a documentary about these like old men
Speaker 1: who there like lifelong goal is just to catch a.
Speaker 2: Foul ball at a baseball game.
Speaker 1: They've spent their whole lives because The rule is it
Speaker 1: can't bounce, it can't.
Speaker 2: Hit off something. It can't I agree with that.
Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, the ball landed and then you
Speaker 1: ran over and grabbed it from under the seat.
Speaker 2: That doesn't count. Count.
Speaker 1: You have to catch a foul ball. And it came
Speaker 1: right to where I was sitting. I just went, I
Speaker 1: put my hand up and just caught it. It was
Speaker 1: like a remind it make an assumption here, But I
Speaker 1: know I'm right. The question would be don't answer. It
Speaker 1: would be glove or no glove.
Speaker 2: But I already know the answer because you're a man's man,
Speaker 2: and I know you went no glove, and I know
Speaker 2: you got it bare handed, because that's the true way
Speaker 2: to get a foul ball. When I see grown ups
Speaker 2: bringing gloves to a game and they don't have the
Speaker 2: guts to take the pain. You got to take the
Speaker 2: pain of the foul ball. I respect that so much.
Speaker 2: The bare handed catch is the most respected fan move
Speaker 2: in sports outside of professional wrestling, which a fight would
Speaker 2: be cool, especially if you but you caught it bare handed. Yes,
Speaker 2: bare hand, yep, right, it just caught it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Also, the adrenaline of the moment made it not hurt
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: I didn't even feel anything, like I have your manliness,
Speaker 2: bro well, just.
Speaker 1: Going like I was so excited and like I couldn't
Speaker 1: believe it happened that.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't, I don't feel anything. So
Speaker 2: the only thing superior to that would have been if
Speaker 2: you had a beer. In the other hand, I.
Speaker 1: Know you ever seen a guy Yeah, I saw that
Speaker 1: on It's Amazing, Yeah, and then they chugged the beer.
Speaker 2: I was like, that guy rose. Yeah, those guys are
Speaker 2: the top shelf. Those are Andre the giants.
Speaker 1: He's gonna die of some chemical that was rubbed on
Speaker 1: the ball, you know, because he drank all the barrier.
Speaker 2: The picture was greasing it up to get a couple
Speaker 2: extra inches on their break. All right, you guys, I
Speaker 2: hope you enjoyed this week's episode. I tried to go
Speaker 2: along for you guys, because we're not giving you a
Speaker 2: Thursday episode. We will be back next week. Jeff, are
Speaker 2: you are you going to be anywhere this weekend? Can
Speaker 2: the people come see you someplace? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am going to be in Sacramento. I'm playing Rancho
Speaker 1: Murrietta on on Saturday and then Sacramento Punchline.
Speaker 2: We added the show because we sold it out. So
Speaker 2: hell y Sunday Sacramento punchline. All right, you guys, if
Speaker 2: you're up in norcl that counts as Norcle Sacramento. Yeah,
Speaker 2: oh yeah. If you're up in Norcau go check out
Speaker 2: my boy. If you're in SOCU, stay safe. If you're
Speaker 2: anywhere else in the country. Sending you guys, love, Sending
Speaker 2: you guys hopefully good wrestling that you like. I hope
Speaker 2: all the people you're rooting for win. I hope all
Speaker 2: the people you hate looms and yeah go Raiders. What sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm a Raiders fan. I just said throw that in there.
Speaker 2: Paying six fucking coaches that the team anymore because we're
Speaker 2: so well, that's my depressing moment of the day. That's
Speaker 2: what we should do. We should do a depressing segment
Speaker 2: of the week, and we're gonna start that start from
Speaker 2: now on. And my depressing moment of the week isn't
Speaker 2: the danger that everyone is in. It's my favorite football
Speaker 2: team sucks ass. And as for a lot of time,
Speaker 2: I'm sure you guys are all rooting for the good teams.
Speaker 2: So anyway, enjoy on. Behalf of Jeff Die. I'm back
Speaker 2: of our awesome producer Alex, a big wrestling fan also
Speaker 2: former marine because he's a stud. We all thank you
Speaker 2: guys for listening every week, and yeah, we love you guys.
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