1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: The most valuable commodity I know of is information. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: You agree on five dollars? This is a rau cowboy tackle. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life bearable. 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: Humans need fantasy to be human? My goodness, miss you 6 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 1: guys oppose the best, relentless, refusing to give up. All right, 7 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: hit that horn, very bless. What's up everybody, and welcome 8 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,479 Speaker 1: to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. I'm your host, Chris Raybon, 9 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: and today Samantha Praviti joining me, and we're gonna be 10 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: talking all about wide receivers, who's overvalued, who's undervalued in 11 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: early fantasy drafts. Will course start with some news updates 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: as well, to get you caught up on anything you 13 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: might have missed since last week. Samantha, what's going on? 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: Not much? Dude? 15 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 2: How did that March Madness bracket end up for you? 16 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 1: It actually wasn't too bad. 17 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 2: You know. 18 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: I did have Kansas. A lot of other things didn't 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: go my way along the way, but it helps to 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: have the right national champion. How about you? 21 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I just had Billanova and a lot 22 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 2: of other mistakes too. I kind of went like the 23 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: Homer way and I had a providence going to the 24 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Final four, not winning it, but going to the final four, 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 2: So that didn't work out. 26 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Shout out to all of our Rhode Island listeners, Shout 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: out to your parents, who I know are going to 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: pay you a visit very soon. Yes, yes, yes, all right, 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: let's get right into some news and then we'll talk 30 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: about wide receivers who are undervalued and overvalued by early 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: April adyp but I want to start off with the 32 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: three quick news items, the first being Deebo Samuel essentially 33 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: deleted all of the forty nine Ers references, pictures, anything 34 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: that showed him kind of affiliated to the team on 35 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: his Instagram account. Now, being that as April, we don't 36 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: really have much to talk about NFL wise, everyone's going 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: crazy over this, especially if you're a forty nine er fan. 38 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: What do you make of this development, Samantha, Yeah. 39 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: He even unfollowed the forty nine ers official IG account, 40 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: so it's getting serious. It does just feel like this 41 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: is a sort of bargaining thing or something that they 42 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: do during negotiations. He is entering that final year of 43 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 2: his rookie deal, so we'll see how it pans out. 44 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that there are a ton 45 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: of really good, realistic landing spots for him, but good 46 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: forty nine ers don't have, you know, the highest octane offense. 47 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 2: So there are places that I would love to see 48 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: him and love to see like Green Bay or something 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 2: that that's not gonna happen. 50 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean from what I'm here, And if any 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: team was to be make a push for him, it 52 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: would be the Jets because they kind of lost out 53 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: on the other high end guys that they were targeting, 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, Tyreek Hill especially, so DK Metcalf doesn't look 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: like he's going to move. So the Jets have the 56 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: assets and the willingness to make one of these deals, 57 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: and I mean it would be fitting. You know. The 58 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: AFC arms race continues with another high you know, premium 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: NFC player going over. But I agree with you. I 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: think it's a negotiation tactic. I think this is what 61 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: you do in twenty twenty two, right, It's like we 62 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: saw Kyler do it. It's it can't hurt, you know, 63 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: you're trying to maximize leverage. Debo's playing his base salary 64 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: this year just under four million dollars, so he is 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: deserving of a raisin. The interesting thing is, and I'm 66 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: curious to see your opinion on this. Do you think 67 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: it's it's something where the forty nine ers probably would 68 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: like to get a deal done, and maybe they're just 69 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: kind of their hands are tied because of Jimmy g 70 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: because obviously that's over twenty five million dollars that comes 71 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,120 Speaker 1: off the books. Do you think that kind of plays 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: into it and that Debo is maybe not too happy 73 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: that this is they're kind of dragging their feet on this. 74 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it definitely could play into it. It 75 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: also could be that they just want to pay him 76 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 2: like RB one numbers not wider to numbers, especially after 77 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: all those contracts, Like everyone's just like shelling out money 78 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 2: here and there, you know, shout out to Stefan Digs 79 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 2: for getting paid. So it could be like, yeah, just 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 2: a sort of installed negotiations and uh, you know, we'll 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: see how that all plays out. 82 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: Does this affect where you draft him in you know, 83 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,159 Speaker 1: early Best ball drafts and things like that. He's currently going, 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: as you know, inside the top eight a wide receiver 85 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: wyters six, I believe when I looked earlier this morning. 86 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: Any any thoughts on his drafts capital right. 87 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 2: Now at this point, I don't I don't. I don't 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 2: think that it's worth kind of changing where he is 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,839 Speaker 2: mentally in the rankings. You know, if this kind of 90 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: starts to go on for a while, maybe we can 91 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 2: start thinking about those potential landing spots. If it really 92 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: seems like that relationship becomes fractured. 93 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think, I mean yeah, I was getting 94 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: ready to say, hey, maybe Brandon Ayuk a little bit overvalued, 95 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, going just inside the top thirty six. But 96 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe this is enough for at least, you know, 97 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: kind of keep him in that in that range, uh, 98 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, because he could benefit in a major way 99 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: of if the forty nine ers hand is forced and 100 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: Debo does end up moving on. 101 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 2: Well, Shanahan hates Ayuk and its German and all the 102 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: fantasy footballs. Yeah, I don't want to get my hopes 103 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 2: up for Ayuk. 104 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: I mean, but he's got something, you know, he does 105 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: have the you know, the kind of red flag. He's 106 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: got a unique name, at least his last name. So 107 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: but I don't know. Jawan Jennings, that's Juwan with the 108 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: ja u a n spelling. That's also pretty weird. So 109 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's he's going to do it either, right. 110 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: I love that theory that we have going. We're going 111 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 2: to keep that going off season. 112 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: Moving on, Rob Gronkowski reportedly not sure that he will 113 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: suit up and play in twenty twenty two, even though 114 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has returned. He already has made it known 115 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: that he doesn't really want to play without Brady. But 116 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: even though Brady has come back, Gronk said he's not 117 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: ready to commit to a season. You know, how do 118 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 1: we kind of who does this impact I guess, or 119 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 1: how do we kind of navigate this at this point? 120 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: How serious are we taking him, you know, in terms 121 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: of his status for this upcoming year. 122 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I have no real read of this situation, 123 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 2: but I'm going to assume that he plays at this point. 124 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's certainly on the wrong side 125 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,679 Speaker 2: of thirty and has dealt with a lot of injuries 126 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 2: throughout his career. It's a demanding sport and whatnot. But 127 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, if this ends up being a serious thing, 128 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 2: those are a lot of targets and a lot of 129 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: touchdowns to go around, So that could certainly benefit guys 130 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: like Mike Evans or Russell Gage or Chris Godwin whenever 131 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: he comes back. 132 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Russell Gage is really and we'll talk 133 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: about him, but I think he could be a big 134 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: winner here and Evans as well. But if you're drafting 135 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: in early Best Ball, I would say monitor the news 136 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: because right now he's going as a tight end twenty three, 137 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: so he's essentially free. I mean, you can kind of 138 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: add him as like your third tight end and if 139 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: the news breaks, you know, I think his ADP maybe 140 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: quick to rise. He won't be in that initial player pool. 141 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: You'll have to scroll down a little bit. So it 142 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: is a situation a kind of monitor if you're Best 143 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: Ball drafting around this time of year. Speaking of drafting, 144 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: the Ravens reportedly could pick up a running back on 145 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Day three or even day two of this upcoming draft. 146 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: You and I we both kind of talked about how 147 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: we're a little weary of this old JK. Dobbins Gus 148 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: Edwards backfield as is, especially Dobbin's going as high as 149 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: he's going, and this would seem to add more fuel 150 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: to the fire that maybe we should pump the brakes 151 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: on this Ravens backfield, which seems destined to be a committee. 152 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that certainly muddies the water. In Dobbin's rookie year, 153 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 2: he was certainly in that three man committee with mark 154 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: Ingram and Gus Edwards and that impacted his production. And 155 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: you know that's a three man committee. But you have 156 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: to remember that Lamar Jackson is there are also top 157 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: running back. He's going to take a lot of those 158 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 2: goal line carries and eventually touchdowns there. So, yeah, that 159 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: certainly makes things a little hairrier. Like we always think 160 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: of the Ravens as this running team, which they are, 161 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 2: but there's a lot of mouse to feed if you 162 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: take into account Lamar Jackson's kind of role. 163 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, half the battle, especially with running backs, 164 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: because you know, when you're projecting running backs, i mean 165 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: everyone's kind of between four yards of carry and four 166 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: and a half yards of carry or something. You know, 167 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: not too many guys are outside of that range. It's 168 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: really about getting the carries right, which is then about 169 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: how does the organization feel about these players. And one 170 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: thing you notice about Baltimore is that they're saying, hey, 171 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: we're going to make some changes after everyone got hurt 172 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 1: last year, and not just at the running back position. 173 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 1: But also, you know, all the cornerbacks went down, and 174 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, we're going to try to change practices up 175 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: in our everything we do to better prepare for the 176 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: on this onslaught of injuries, and I think naturally one 177 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: of those things is making sure not to overwork any 178 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: of these running backs, especially both Edwards and Dobbd's coming 179 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: off major injuries. So the writing's kind of on the 180 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: wall and just the rumor itself, like even if they 181 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: don't end up picking a running back, because I think 182 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: you know, that's always you know, depending on who falls 183 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: to you and whatnot. I just think the fact that 184 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: we're hearing this and all these other things would make 185 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: me weary about Dobbin's really pulling away and having like 186 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: that massive eighteen to twenty touch role that we really 187 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: want to be drafting him as a top twenty back. 188 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely agree. It makes me even more scared of 189 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: him and his very lofty ADP. 190 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's jump right into wide receivers here, 191 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: and we'll start with a bunch of players that we 192 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: think are undervalued at the wide receiver position. We're using 193 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: underdog's ADP, which is where a lot of people are 194 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: drafting basketball teams at this time of year, so I 195 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: figured it's probably the most relevant. There's obviously a lot 196 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: of different places, and the ADP will vary, but I 197 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: think it's just a good way to kind of get 198 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: somewhat of a gauge on what's going on this time 199 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: of year and what the market is thinking. So start 200 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: us off with who do you have is undervalued here 201 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: at wide receiver? 202 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there are definitely a lot of guys that I 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: have here. So the first one that I'm going to 204 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: talk about is Michael Pittman. This one really makes no 205 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: sense to me. So he is currently wide receiver twenty 206 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: seven on underdo He finished as the wide receiver twenty 207 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: one and half PPR last year. He's got a major 208 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: upgrade at quarterback. Wentz was I think bottom three in 209 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 2: clean pocket efficiency and like pretty much bottom of everything 210 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: in a lot of categories, and Matt Ryan certainly, I think, 211 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 2: offers a lot more upside for this offense. Pittman also 212 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 2: had double digit Fantasy points in ten of seventeen games, 213 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: which I think is awesome. So I mean, to me, 214 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: at wide receiver twenty seven, I think he has definitely 215 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 2: the like he has the upside to become a top 216 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 2: twelve receiver, and I think that, you know, I feel 217 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: comfortable drafting him in that like wide receiver twenty, maybe 218 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: even a little higher range. 219 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love Michael Pile, but I think he's just 220 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: a great football player. I mean, if you watched him 221 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: even in school, he's kind of like the perfect encapsulation 222 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: of a good football player because he was not only 223 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: making plays a receiver, but on special teams, like he 224 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: was a great special teamer. Obviously doesn't have to do 225 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,080 Speaker 1: that anymore, but you know, football runs in a family 226 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: for him. Of course, his father played with the Bucks, 227 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: So I really like him. I think that Matt Ryan, 228 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: if we've seen anything like you mentioned, he could feed 229 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: his number one receiver. We saw it with Julio, We 230 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: saw it with Ridley when Julio was out these last 231 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: couple of years. So yeah, I think Pittman could finally 232 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: be in for a bigger target share. We know he's 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: the unquestioned alpha dog on that offense and probably will 234 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: be at least this year no matter what happens in 235 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: the draft. I think, you know, you know, maybe you 236 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: upgrade at tight end, maybe you upgrade at the other 237 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: wide receiver spot. But regardless, I think Pittmans set to 238 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: be a target hog and kind of like one of 239 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: those outside has an outside chance to read the league 240 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: in targets, like kind of like Alan Robbinson a couple 241 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: of years ago. And I always liked those guys where 242 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: it's like you're just an alpha dog on a mediocre team. 243 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: You never know how the game scripts are gonna break. 244 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: So you know, if the coach become more pass heavy 245 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: than they were last year, you could see you could 246 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: see a huge season out of Pittman. So I like 247 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: that a lot for me. I'm gonna go with Mike Evans. 248 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: You know, Mike Evans is down to why receiver nineteen, 249 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: and I think that's ludicrous. First of all, considering that 250 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: Mike Evans, even with Godwin and Gronk and the line up, 251 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: Mike Evans was a top ten Fantasy wide receiver last 252 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: year and now you're looking at Godwin missing the start 253 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: of the year, Potentially you're looking at Gronk missing, you know, 254 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: or not coming back potentially. Russell Gage obviously benefits as well, 255 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: but Tom Brady's back. Mike Evans is the queer alpha dog, 256 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: and you talk about a dude that has the potential 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,199 Speaker 1: to lead the league in targets. I mean, Mike Evans 258 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: is right there at the top of the list among 259 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, top ten fantasy receivers. Last year, Mike Evans 260 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: had the fewest catches seventy four, so he has a 261 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: lot of room to grow. And I think that wide 262 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: receiver nineteen is probably it's like it's essentially like twelve 263 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: or ten to twelve spots too low for Evans. I 264 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: think he should be closer to that top tier than 265 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: it is, like a middling Wie receiver too that he's 266 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: been going at in these early underdog drafts. So love 267 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: me some Mike Evans in twenty twenty two. 268 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: I definitely agree, and that I was going to go 269 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: in order here, but you know what, this is a 270 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: good segue into my Russell Gage love. He is a 271 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 2: guy that I feel like I pump up every year 272 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: because he's just like I just think, a guy that 273 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: is generally underrated. So he is going at wide receiver 274 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: sixty seven, so you can get him for free. Here's 275 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: the thing is that the median recovery time for a 276 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 2: torn ACL among NFL players is eleven point six months, 277 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: so just shy of twelve months. Shout out to Chris 278 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: Towers of CBS who was talking about that today. But 279 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: Godwin tore his ACL on December nineteenth of last year, 280 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 2: so there's a good chance we're looking at him missing 281 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: half the season. I mean, that's really really significant, especially 282 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: when you consider how high he's going in drafts. That 283 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: could mean that Gauge is the wide receiver two in 284 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 2: this offense for half the season, and if more targets 285 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: are vacated by Gronk, great, But yeah, Gage was the 286 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver forty eight last year and weeks eleven through eighteen, 287 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: so kind of like that second half of the year 288 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: he was a wide receiver twelve and half PPR. So 289 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: I think he'll be a really good wide receiver two 290 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: behind Evans at least to start the season. 291 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's a great spot for him because he 292 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:17,679 Speaker 1: doesn't have to go and beat like press coverage necessarily. 293 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: He can line up inside, you know, he you know, 294 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: Evans can handle the best cornerback on the other team, 295 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: the most physical guy, and Gage can kind of just 296 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: get open. I think that's what was kind of missing 297 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: with Ridley out for the Falcons is that gauge had 298 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: to beat that number one guy, so he would have 299 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: these like really bad games every once in a while, 300 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: but with a lot of good ones mixed in when 301 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: he could play, you know, just kind of run around 302 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: and get open out there. And I think he's gonna 303 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: be able to do that, and Tom Brady's gonna be 304 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: able to find him. So love Russell Gage. I'll talk 305 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: about another guy in that same division, Michael Thomas, wide 306 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: receiver twenty six. Okay, Like, I know, the Saints turned 307 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: into a little bit of a low a lot of 308 00:14:55,560 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: bit of a low volume pass offense last year, but 309 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: part of that was due to Michael Thomas being out 310 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: for the entire year. Like, it wasn't just that they 311 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: lost Drew Brees, you know, it was that they had 312 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: no Michael Thomas. And we've seen Michael Thomas be productive 313 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: not just with Breeze, but with a guy like Taysom 314 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 1: Hill at quarterback. So I think Jameis Winston is still 315 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: a step up Andy Dalton. If he has to step in, 316 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,920 Speaker 1: he can get the ball to a guy like Thomas 317 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: as well. So I wouldn't really worry about the volume here. 318 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: He's the queer alpha dog in terms of the receiving 319 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: core in New Orleans. You know, obviously Alvin Kamara is 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: going to get his as well, but I think, you know, 321 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: Michael Thomas for his talent for it, he's gonna come 322 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: back healthy to a team where he's the queer, queer 323 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: alpha dog, another guy with an outside shot at eating 324 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: the league in targets. Going at wide receiver twenty six, 325 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: It's like we all last year everyone was too high 326 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: on him, and now it's like now we all forgot 327 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: about him. I think it's I think it's just crazy. 328 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's definitely easy to forget about him 329 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: if you take into account how long it's been since 330 00:15:56,960 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: we saw him. That is a little risky, but I 331 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 2: think it, you know, at that point, it's a definitely 332 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 2: risk reward type thing, especially if you're if you're drafting 333 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 2: in best Ball, So I could definitely see him being 334 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 2: really good value. I think this kind of all depends 335 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: on what offense we're gonna end up seeing from the Saints, 336 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 2: because yeah, to your point, like it was super low volume, 337 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 2: but they're going to have people that are other than 338 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 2: Marquez Callaway and Lil Jordan Humphrey to throw do so 339 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: I want to see that Saints offense for sure. All right, 340 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,040 Speaker 2: the next guy that I'm going to talk about is 341 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: a Brandon Cooks at wide receiver thirty three. This guy 342 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 2: is habitually disrespected in my opinion for fantasy vervises. In 343 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 2: his eight year career, he has only finished outside of 344 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 2: the top twenty four once and that was in twenty nineteen. 345 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: His last two seasons, he was wide receiver fifteen and 346 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: wide receiver sixteen with a troubled cast of sort of 347 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: quarterbacks troubled. 348 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Yes, and wearing a troubled one that didn't even didn't 349 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: even play. 350 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 2: Last right, right? Sure? So yeah, I mean Cooks had 351 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 2: nine games last season with twelve plus fantasy points in 352 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: half PPR out of sixteen games played. He also had 353 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 2: four hundred yard games. So I mean I think that 354 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: at wide receiver thirty three, this this sounds pretty ludicrous 355 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: to me. 356 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I mean I hate to keep beating 357 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: the same horse. But another guy with outside shot at 358 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: leading the league in targets. All right, Let's go to 359 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: Adam Deewen, because Adam Dewen is another one who and 360 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: this is not a guy that's going to get a 361 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: ton of targets. At this point in his career, I 362 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: think he's going to be the number two obviously behind 363 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. So it's not the same kind of player, 364 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: but Adam Thiewen ever, you know, those last two years, 365 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: it's been a lot of touchdowns, and so I think people, 366 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: you know, it is sharp to kind of knock him 367 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: down a little bit. He's getting older. But even in 368 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: a bad year or bad year, you know, compared to 369 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,080 Speaker 1: his other kind of stellar campaigns these last few he's 370 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:55,720 Speaker 1: still averaged, you know, over five catches per game, his 371 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: most since twenty eighteen, and you know, his yard is 372 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: still above fifty yards per game. So I think you're 373 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: getting him, like right at that wide receiver three four borderline, 374 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: a guy that scored twenty four touchdowns in his last 375 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: twenty eight games. They're running a back with Kirk Cousins 376 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: for one more year. He has Justin Jefferson to take 377 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: coverage away from him. So I don't think you're getting 378 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: anything crazy here, but I wouldn't be surprised if Adam 379 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: deven finishes his closer a wide receiver two, and you 380 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 1: can get him wide receiver three and even lower than 381 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: that because he's a wide receiver thirty six and eightyp 382 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: sometimes he falls to like, you know, wide receiver forty, 383 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: wide receiver forty five. So I think Adam Dewn's is 384 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: a massive bargain here. I think he's got a couple 385 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: of good seasons left to him. He'll be thirty two 386 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: this year. Wide receivers tend to decline a little more gracefully, 387 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,080 Speaker 1: especially a guy like Dewan who's not overly, like, doesn't 388 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: rely on his body. He's six and two hundred pounds, 389 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: so he's not like this, you know. I think the 390 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: bigger receivers, like the Andre Johnson's, they tend to have 391 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 1: a more abrupt kind of fall from grace, whereas Adam Thwn, 392 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: I think it will be a little bit more graceful. 393 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: So I love him at wide receiver thirty six. 394 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that definitely feels like pretty good value. I mean, 395 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: like two spots below him as Cadarius Tony, and that's 396 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: the range that we're looking at. I know I'm going 397 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: to talk about him later, but all right, the next 398 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 2: guy that I'm going to talk about is Juju Smith 399 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: Schuster wide receiver forty six right now, obviously coming off 400 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 2: of an awful year mark with injuries and just like 401 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: the Steelers having one of the worst offenses. But this 402 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 2: is a massive upgraded quarterback. We just talked about Wentz 403 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 2: to Matt Ryan. I mean, this is huge. Obviously, the 404 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 2: big question is like can he be the quote unquote 405 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: wide receiver one. I don't think we're going to plug 406 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 2: and play and get Tyreek Hill numbers out of him 407 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 2: at this point in his career. But he you know, 408 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 2: he's one year removed from finishing as wide receiver eighteen 409 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 2: with a sketchy kV situation, and he had fourteen hundred 410 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 2: yards in twenty eighteen. I know that's kind of a 411 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,640 Speaker 2: while back, but certainly there's going to be a ton 412 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: of targets to go around with Tyreek hilgone. He had 413 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty nine targets last year, So I 414 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 2: feel like the volume is going to be there, the 415 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: upside's going to be there. So why here forty six? 416 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 2: That just feels like way, way, way too low. 417 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was totally different when Tyreek Hill was still 418 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: a part of this team. Then it was like, Okay, 419 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: maybe Juju is going to be a little bit overdrafted, 420 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: you know, just because of the team. We saw it 421 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: happy with Watkins, but now there's a good chance Juji 422 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: is the number one receiver. Obviously they'll probably look to 423 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: add somebody in the draft. But the way I look 424 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: at it, I think that fourteen hundred yard season that 425 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: you mentioned is key because he wasn't really the number 426 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: one option that year, you know, and that the same 427 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 1: thing is going to be true in Kansas City. Travis 428 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 1: Kelce is the number one option. So Travis Kelce still 429 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: dictates what the defense does, draws the most defensive attention. 430 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: That's where we've seen Juju flourish the most. So I 431 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of upside here and it's 432 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: essentially free money. At wide receiver forty six, would I 433 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: would expect him to close inside the top thirty six 434 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: by the time you know, August rolls around, if not higher. 435 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm taking Juju anywhere I can get him 436 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: at this point in the year. All right, Next was 437 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: let go Robert Woods, wide receiver thirty nine, another one 438 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 1: who I thought that he may end up being a 439 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: little overvalued, you know, because he's had, you know, all 440 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: these great seasons with the Rams, and I thought, you know, 441 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: I would probably be fading him because he'd be drafted 442 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: as like, you know, the wide receiver thirty or twenty 443 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: eight or something like that. But he's down at thirty 444 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 1: nine in Tennessee, and there's an outside chance that, just 445 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: like we talked about Deebo earlier, you know, we don't 446 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: know exactly what's going to happen with him. There's an 447 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: outside chance that you know, they can't you know, a J. 448 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: Brown is not around, or they move him in a 449 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: surprise deal. But even if Brown is there, I just 450 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: think Woods is a good value. You know, this is 451 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: a guy who has been you know, a wide receiver 452 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 1: too in fantasy or better pretty much every season in 453 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: terms of per game average since he you know, over 454 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: the last five since he joined the Rams, and I 455 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: think he's going to be used in a very similar 456 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: way here. Obviously the volume goes down, but especially with 457 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: the way a J. Brown has been struggling injury wise, 458 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: I think that you can do a lot worse than 459 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: Robert Woods here because it's obvious that the Titans are, like, 460 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: look looking for a big one two punch at receiver. 461 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean they went out and signed Julio Jones last year. 462 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: He just couldn't stay healthy. But I think if you 463 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: have Woods here, you're going to see a little bit 464 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: more pass volume from Tennessee. I think they're also probably 465 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: at the point where they're like, Okay, we can't completely 466 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: run Derrick Henry into the ground. He finally got hurt, 467 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: so getting him outside the top thirty six another guy 468 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: that I'll I'll take the game one. I think he's 469 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: a really high floor kind of play and you don't 470 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: have to spend a ton of him at wide receiver 471 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: thirty nine. 472 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree. I mean, he definitely takes a 473 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: downgrade going to the Titans and having to compete with 474 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 2: AJ Brown. Obviously that would be cool if for his value, 475 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: if A J. Brown in stept moving. But yeah, at 476 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: that value, it seems really great, all right. The final 477 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 2: guy that I want to talk about is Michael Gallup, 478 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 2: a wide receiver fifty seven right now, obviously poised to 479 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 2: take on a larger role with you know, one hundred 480 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 2: or so targets vacated by Amari Cooper leaving Gallup missed 481 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 2: seven games last year. Towards beginning of the season, he 482 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: suffered an injury right in Week one, which was devastating. 483 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,479 Speaker 2: He was definitely a sleeper of mine last year, and 484 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: of course he goes down in Week one, but weeks 485 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: tens ver seventeen, he was the wide receiver twenty eight, 486 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: competing four targets with a lot of people on that offense. 487 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 2: Was the wide receiver thirty eight in twenty twenty, and 488 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty two in twenty nineteen. He had eleven 489 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 2: hundred receiving yards back then. So I just think he's 490 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 2: a guy that you can get for really cheap and 491 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: offers a lot of upside being on that offense. 492 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. We got to talk about this. 493 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's like how do you want to kind 494 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: of treat these injuries, because you know the difference between 495 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: Gallup and a guy like Godwin is doubt Godwin's going 496 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: at like wide receiver twenty five. Gallup, you know, had 497 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: his injury around the same time, but his ACL injury, 498 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: but he's he's going to y receiver fifty seven, So 499 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: you know it's still a gamble, but it's essentially it's 500 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: like a free play. He could be the last wide 501 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: receiver on your bench, and I think that's a lot 502 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: better a way to kind of take a risk on 503 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: a guy coming for an injury than with a guy 504 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: like Chris Godwin who just aren't sure exactly what it's 505 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,160 Speaker 1: going to be, and we're drafting him as a surefire starter. 506 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: All Right, A couple more guys and it will go 507 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: to a guys who are overvalued. One Christian Kirk. You know, 508 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: I like his move to Jacksonville. I think he has 509 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: a chance to be the number one guy there. At 510 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: worst he'll be the two, but he can move inside, outside, 511 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: he can He's one of the better receivers against man 512 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 1: coverage last year, which I think, you know says a 513 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: lot because that's where Marvin Jones kind of struggled. And 514 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: you know, I think it's a just a spot where 515 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Kirk could be, like on any given week, the number 516 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: one receiver, and I don't think he'll ever be outside 517 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: the top two in very often on a given week 518 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and targets. I think Trevor Lawrence also can 519 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 1: take a massive step forward. We know his talent level 520 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: and we know he was just in a worse situation possible. 521 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 1: So getting Kirk is the wide receiver forty eight, I 522 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: think he should be close there to you know, the 523 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: mid thirties as well. So he's a guy like and 524 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: then DeVante Parker he's going to wide receiver sixty nine, 525 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: and you know, the Patriots made a move for him, 526 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: and I think it's it's intriguing because he's another guy 527 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: you can get for free and the Patriots have kind 528 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: of been looking for for somebody to put on the 529 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: outside for a while. I think Jacobe Myers is still 530 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: going to be strong inside. But you know, as far 531 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: as like guys like Agalar and the Mere Bird they had, 532 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 1: like those guys aren't volume guys. So now they have 533 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: a guy in Devonte Parker who has gotten number one 534 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: volume for number one wide receiver volume and produced. We 535 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: saw that big year at Miami with Ryan Fitzpatrick and 536 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Another guy who could take a massive step forward. 537 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: The offense could get more passive. It's what tends to happen, 538 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: you know, just look at like Joe Burrow. So I 539 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: think there's some upside with Devonte Parker or at least 540 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: take a flyer at wide receiver sixty nine. 541 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, I know I love that Christian Kirk pick there, 542 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: love that he had that year for breakout. But I mean, 543 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: obviously there's a pretty significant downgrade and going from the 544 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 2: Cardinals offense to the Jaguars offense. But I think we 545 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: have to put, you know, the Jaguars whole thing into 546 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: perspective from last year. There were a lot of outside 547 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: extracurricular distractions and just maybe Urban Meyer not being cut 548 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 2: out for the NFL. So I think that I would 549 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 2: I think that we will see a little bit of 550 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 2: a better and more improved offense. Trevor Lawrence entering his 551 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 2: second year, So yeah, I mean, especially if you're getting 552 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: him as low as wider er for forty eight, that 553 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 2: totally makes sense to me. 554 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: All Right, let's flip over and talk about some guys 555 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: who are overvalued in these early drafts. 556 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to kick it off with Jalen Wattle 557 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 2: at wide receiver ten. So obviously this guy's insanely talented. 558 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 2: Fantasy Twitter loves him and I was super excited about 559 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 2: him this off season. I just think, you know, we 560 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: have to put this into perspective with Tyreek Hill coming 561 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: in and to of maybe being limited. I mean, the 562 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: Dolphins wide receivers last year had three hundred and twenty 563 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: eight targets to go around Tyreek Hill had one hundred 564 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 2: and sixty targets last year, Like he's going to eat 565 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 2: up a really significant percent share of that. So I'm 566 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: not saying that I think like Jalen Wattle is going 567 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,479 Speaker 2: to disappear off the face of the earth. But I 568 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 2: also think it's unrealistic to think that Tua is going 569 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: to support two top ten receivers at this point. So, yeah, 570 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: wide receiver ten just feels a little too rich for 571 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 2: my blood. I think he feels like a mid range 572 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 2: wide receiver too. 573 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got to be dropping fast. You know, obviously 574 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: some people, you know the ADP is, you know, I 575 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 1: guess a little slow to adjust after the move. But 576 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of see Wattle was like, he's 577 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 1: you look at his numbers last year, one hundred four catches, 578 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,240 Speaker 1: one thousand and fifteen yards, six touchdowns. It kind of 579 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: reminds me of another just the numbers, not the player, 580 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: but the numbers remind me of another Dolphins receiver who's 581 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: there for a long time in Jarvis Landry. And you know, 582 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: I think that's kind of his ceiling at this point 583 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill in the lineup, because that nine point 584 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 1: eight yards per catch I just don't know if that 585 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: changes much now with a more legitimate de threat and 586 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill and even in the intermediate area. So I 587 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: think Wattle he could still eat up, you know, five 588 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: six catches a game, but I think it's not going 589 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 1: to be quite as reliable as even it was in 590 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: his rookie year, just because, like you mentioned, Tyreek Hill 591 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: is an alpha dog and they paid, you know, top 592 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 1: dollar to get him. So you know, if Wattle was 593 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 1: coming off a sixty catch rookie year, I'd say, okay, 594 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 1: this is great for him, because even though Tyreek's gonna 595 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 1: take a lot of targets, Tyreek's gonna open things up 596 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: for Wattle to maybe get to that one hundred catch mark. 597 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 1: But now we're essentially drafting him based off what he 598 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: did is rookie year and expecting an increase, which usually 599 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: is a sharp move. Wide receivers, the year two breakout 600 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 1: is real these days. A lot of guys are doing 601 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: it in year two instead of year three or year four. 602 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: But in this case, I just think you're paying too 603 00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: much at wide receiver TI. I mean, Jalen Waddle's going 604 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: nine spots out of Mike Evan. That's that's just absurd 605 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: at this point. All right, you know Wato was the 606 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: first guy on my list as well. We kind of 607 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: talked about Godwin Calvin Ridley. I don't know what he's 608 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,320 Speaker 1: doing at wide receiver eighteen, So that's don't draft Calvin Ridley. 609 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: He's not going to play. So I'll go to the 610 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 1: next guy on my list is Hunter Renfro. Kind of 611 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: a similar situation. It's like Renfro had what I think 612 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: is probably going to be his ceiling year last year, 613 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and a lot of it came. You know, Darren Waller 614 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: missed six games and that is gonna I think Waller's 615 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: coming back mixed with DeVante Adams. Those are two AUTPUA 616 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: players legitimately the guys that could lead their positions in 617 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: targets their respective positions. So Renfro is going to be open, Yes, 618 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: there's he's going to still be the third guy that 619 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: defenses kind of pay attention to. But you know, wide 620 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: receiver thirty one, I just would like to get somebody 621 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: with that true wide receiver and number one option. Kind 622 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: of upset there, Like you mentioned the Brandon Cooks, who 623 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: you know, maybe his medium projection is a tiny bit 624 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: lower but I think his ceiling is just so much 625 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: higher because he could be his team's number one option, 626 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,080 Speaker 1: whereas Hunter Renfro is likely going to be the number 627 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,080 Speaker 1: three regardless, and you know it's going to be a 628 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: lot of underneath targets on top of that. So kind 629 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: of a similar not Wattle in terms of you know, 630 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 1: Wattle is going to be the number two it looks like, 631 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: but just a similar situation in terms of the profile. 632 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: You know, a low yard per catch guy who probably 633 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: maximizes volume last year and now we're paying a little 634 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: bit of a premium forum. So I'd like to see 635 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: Renfro going on that wide receiver three four borderline or 636 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: as a true wide receiver four, and then you have 637 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: some upside if one of those guys gets hurt, then 638 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: you already taking him and having him have to produce 639 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: pretty close to what he did last year. 640 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, he was a guy that was on my 641 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 2: list as well. Just I mean, we saw that breakout 642 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: last year, but to your point, it was very volume based. 643 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 2: For that to happen, Waller had to be injured, Henry 644 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 2: Ruggs had to miss half the season after thereby obviously, 645 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 2: and it's gone permanently. But now we've got an even 646 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 2: better alpha receiver on this team, could be the wide 647 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 2: receiver one for Fantasy this year. So certainly feels like 648 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 2: that will limit on Renfro's ceiling this year. All Right, 649 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 2: The next guys that I want to talk about is 650 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 2: it's actually two people, but DK Metcalf at wide receiver 651 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 2: eleven and Tyler Lockett at wide receiver twenty one. Just 652 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, for this podcast, Bloods, Button Tears, I went 653 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: through Drew Locke's twenty one career starts, just you know, 654 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 2: to comb through. I mean, wellless, I know, unremarkable, mostly 655 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: fifty nine percent completion rate, four thousand, forty seven hundred yards, 656 00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 2: twenty five touchdowns, twenty interceptions. But one thing that stood 657 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 2: out to me is that over those twenty one starts 658 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: he's only had a receiver reach eighty or more yards twice. 659 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: Like That's that is not a compelling argument for me. Now, yes, 660 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: you can argue that he's never had receivers as good 661 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 2: as DK Metcraft or Tyler Lockett. I mean you could 662 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 2: argue that Jerry Judy's maybe on that level of Lockett, 663 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 2: but certainly DK Metcalf I'll. 664 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: Not argue that I the opoly, I think Kyle Lockett 665 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: is a better player than Jerry Judy. 666 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 2: I agree, there are just some still some truthers out 667 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 2: there that will cling to their Jerry Judy love. But sure, yeah, 668 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,479 Speaker 2: I mean, certainly this is an upgrade for him in 669 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 2: terms of wide receiver talent. But I just think, like 670 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 2: we're still drafting these guys way too high based on 671 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 2: name recognition and kind of things that they did previously. So, 672 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean, twenty twenty one, he's got Russell Wilson and 673 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 2: Metcalf was the wide receiver ten. Lockett was wide receiver nineteen. 674 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: So we're knocking them down one spot in two spots 675 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 2: with JUW Locke, Like that is not enough of a 676 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 2: downgrade for me. 677 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, And to your point, if you look at you know, 678 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: points per game of guys that played, you know, four 679 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 1: more games, Lockett was this wide receiver sixteen, Metcalf was 680 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: the wide receiver twenty two. So and then we saw 681 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: with without Wilson, when it was Gino Smith. They were 682 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: I remember ranking those guys like in the thirties at 683 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: one point, so you know it desperate at that point, right, Yeah, 684 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: So we've kind of we've gotten a glimpse as to 685 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: what this could be, and these are both very talented players. 686 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett included, I know you had to mind meld 687 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson, so any other quarterback is going to 688 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: probably be a downgrade for him. But he's still a 689 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: very talented wide receiver, can do a lot of things 690 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: kind of goes unsung. But yeah, this is just this 691 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: is too high. It's almost like you're not really getting 692 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 1: any discount for the fact that Russell Wilson's now in Denver. 693 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: So I agree here, it seems weird to say, Okay, 694 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: you know, DK Metcalf's getting overdrafted, as talented as he is, 695 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 1: and but you have to look at the entire situation, 696 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: and like I said, there's just guys in better situations. 697 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: And I always got to go back to Mike Evans, 698 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: is that guy who I think, you know, Michael Thomas even, 699 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 1: I mean, you know guys that are the true alpha dog, 700 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: number one receiver on their team, whereas these two guys 701 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: are kind of splitting it anyway. So yeah, I'd go 702 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: a little different route if I'm looking for my you know, 703 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 1: wide receiver one or my wide receiver two at this point. 704 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: All right, I got one more guy than I'll let 705 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: you close it out. I think we both want to 706 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: talk about some guys entering their second year. For me, 707 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,399 Speaker 1: it's Rashad Bateman. So again, like I said, a lot 708 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 1: of times, you're gonna do really well targeting wide receivers 709 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 1: in year two. A lot of wide receivers tend a 710 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: breakout in year two. So but you still have to 711 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: go situation by situation and look at, you know, the 712 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: circumstances surrounding these guys, and what would a breakout mean. 713 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: And so Rashad Bateman, you know, he was the wide 714 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: receiver seventy seven in terms of half PPR points per game. 715 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: You know, he would need about a fifty percent increase 716 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: just to get to wide receiver forty two, which is 717 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: where he's being drafted. So at that point, I think 718 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:11,799 Speaker 1: you want to take on guys with, you know, just 719 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: a little bit more proven production, or guys with a 720 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,799 Speaker 1: little more upside in terms of being their team's you know, 721 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 1: number one wide receiver. Bateman has to jump to people 722 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: at this point to be the number one option. I 723 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 1: should say, you know Mark Andrews obviously, who's just a monster. 724 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 1: And then you're talking about somebody like Marku's Brown who 725 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: really came on, and that I think that was the 726 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, what you looked for with Bateman, 727 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 1: and which is kind of the appeal of Bateman going 728 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: into last year, is that Marku's Brown we weren't sure 729 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: necessarily was he going to pan out. But then even 730 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,879 Speaker 1: though Bateman had a pretty solid rookie year, so did 731 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: Markus Brown in terms of stepping up his game. And 732 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,719 Speaker 1: so I think there's a clear pecking order, and this 733 00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: is another kind of run run first team. So I 734 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: see Rashad Bateman and I see Robert Woods going in 735 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: the same general vicinity of the draft, and I'm like, Okay, 736 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, one of these guys, it has a proven 737 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 1: track record of production even with other guys on a 738 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,879 Speaker 1: team that are just as good or better than him. 739 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: Where As Rashaa Bateman, I mean, he would need a 740 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: massive increase beyond what we usually see for even year 741 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: two breakouts just to kind of meet his ADP at 742 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: wide receiver forty two. So you're essentially taking him out 743 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: close to his ceiling already, so little too high for me. 744 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, And if like, let's just remember what the Ravens 745 00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: team looked like last year when they lost all three 746 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 2: running backs during training him. I mean they were using 747 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 2: Tyson Williams and stuff like that, but certainly was a 748 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 2: lower running volume then they're used to, and I think 749 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: that that probably helped a lot of the passing game. 750 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 2: So yeah, it does feel like you are drafting him 751 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 2: closer to his ceiling than what you know would be 752 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 2: the median outcome. 753 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: All right. 754 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 2: The final guy that I want to talk about is 755 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,240 Speaker 2: Kadarius Tony at wide receiver thirty eight. It definitely stood 756 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 2: out to me that he was this high because he 757 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 2: could not stay healthy. In twenty twenty one, played ten games, 758 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,360 Speaker 2: was the wide receiver eighty seven. He had this hamstring 759 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 2: injury and training camp. He also had some like COVID 760 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,600 Speaker 2: related drama and missed a couple of games due to that. 761 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 2: Missed some games with the ankle injury, the quad injury, 762 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 2: oblique shoulder. I mean certainly think I don't fingerstep going 763 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: at one point, dude. I mean, like that's a lot 764 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: of stuff going on for a rookie. You know, like 765 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 2: these are the types of like wear and terror type 766 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 2: things that I think you'd see from like a receiver 767 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 2: that's thirty. But we saw that from a guy in 768 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: his first year, and yeah, that could just be bad 769 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 2: luck or whatever. But you know, we also have to 770 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: look at this offense. I mean, the Giant's top receiver 771 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one wide receiver eighty four, that was 772 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: Kenny Galladay. Twenty twenty wide receiver forty six, that was 773 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: a Sterling Shepherd, and twenty nineteen it was wide receiver 774 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 2: thirty five that was Darius Slayton. You have to go 775 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 2: all the way back to the eli Odell era in 776 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 2: twenty eighteen to five, a receiver who even broke the 777 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 2: eight hundred yard mark. So certainly feels like this offense 778 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 2: will limit Tony, and Tony himself could just limit Tony. 779 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're not investing a ton at wide receiver 780 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: thirty eight, but I think there are better options in 781 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:11,959 Speaker 2: that tear. 782 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I mean that's what I'm saying. It's like, 783 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,240 Speaker 1: you look at this time of year, especially, I think 784 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 1: people it kind of skews toward the younger guys. You know, 785 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people that also play Dynasty are drafting here, 786 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,839 Speaker 1: and so I think sometimes some of these guys get 787 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,759 Speaker 1: overdrafted because, like I said, generally speaking, I like to 788 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,359 Speaker 1: take wide receivers in year two, but there still has 789 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: to be some kind of cost benefit analysis and ceiling 790 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: floor analysis, and the Giants are kind of running it 791 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: back with the same receiving corps again at wide receiver. 792 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: You know, Kenny Kaladay is going to be back strong 793 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: shepherd who I mean when he's on the field, he 794 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: tends to be Daniel Jones's number one target regardless of 795 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: who else is there. So I do see Tony kind 796 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 1: of taking a step forward. I don't think it could 797 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,239 Speaker 1: go any worse than last year, as you kind of 798 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 1: alluded to, But again, you're drafting him a little closer 799 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 1: to his ceiling than I'd like. Like I do like 800 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 1: Tony more than Bateman because I think with the Giants 801 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: there's a little more opportunity for him to kind of 802 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: jump Gallade and Shepherd than jumping like Mark Andrews and 803 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: and Marki's brown. But you're still taking Tony a little 804 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: closer to the ceiling then I would like just giving 805 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: the offense that he's in. So you know, if Tony 806 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: starts dropping to maybe UI receiver forty five fifty outside 807 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,879 Speaker 1: the top fifty. Then I'm saying, okay, like now there's 808 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 1: some there's some legit upside for him to finish as 809 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: a wide receiver three, maybe even a wide receiver two. 810 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: But here it's it's a little closer to that ceiling 811 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: than I would like when I could get proving guys 812 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: like like Adam Thielen, Robert Woods who you know, getting 813 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: kind of slept on just because their age has a 814 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 1: number three in it. All right, that is going to 815 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,839 Speaker 1: wrap it up. 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