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Speaker 1: Hello, welcome, I'm sorry, Welcome to this week's episode of
Speaker 1: Left and Learn. I am your hosts and comedian Flame
Speaker 1: n Rowe, and I'm here with my lovely co host
Speaker 1: and beautiful Bobby Cliffords.
Speaker 2: I don't know about beauty. We had a little rain
Speaker 2: and I got a little shorts first thing in the morning,
Speaker 2: and I never got it together to slap on a
Speaker 2: little extra pretty today.
Speaker 1: So you have to set up with me, I have
Speaker 1: on one AirPod. Let me put the other one on.
Speaker 2: I think that was the other AirPod on. Tell them
Speaker 2: about your T shirt says, because I think that's hysterical.
Speaker 1: My T shirt says I love God, but some of
Speaker 1: his children get on my nerves.
Speaker 2: Right, and some are related And some of my children
Speaker 2: get on my nerves.
Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, Speaking of which, my son got on my nerves,
Speaker 1: let me tell you how I'm grateful these children. On
Speaker 1: this quarter, I just bought my son a car cost
Speaker 1: me five thousand dollars, Thank god I had it or
Speaker 1: whatever I did to do to get it. And then
Speaker 1: don't ask me why I be as in shall But
Speaker 1: then after I buy him the car, he turns around
Speaker 1: and says, my twenty one year old son says, are
Speaker 1: you gonna fill it up? Bobby? I was highly offended.
Speaker 1: I was not gonna even lie. I just looked at
Speaker 1: him like, what did you just say to me? God
Speaker 1: had to walk it off because I wanted to start swinging.
Speaker 1: Where did we go wrong, Bobby? Where did we go wrong?
Speaker 1: I don't know?
Speaker 2: But so what's making me sad people is I don't
Speaker 2: know if you know his age, he's not sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: He's a big boy, and I could see my son
Speaker 2: setting something. I am highly offended. Anyway, don't get me started,
Speaker 2: because it's we'll go right down a rabbit hole and
Speaker 2: we'll ruin the whole episode.
Speaker 1: Listen, it's been a great week. I am in New Orleans, lady,
Speaker 1: and I know we are day late. It's my fault,
Speaker 1: but I'm in New Orleans. This is the time that
Speaker 1: we have the annual King and Queen pageantry system, which
Speaker 1: is Saturday the fourteen, and I am the official host.
Speaker 1: So if you guys are in New Orleans, come to
Speaker 1: the Civic Center. We're going to have a great time.
Speaker 1: The paget starts at seven o'clock. The ticket prices are
Speaker 1: fifty bucks and it's worth for about three hundred dollars
Speaker 1: because it's going to be a great time.
Speaker 2: Are you doing something Sunday that you can still sell
Speaker 2: tickets or is it sold out?
Speaker 1: No? No, no. We're also having the brunch at the
Speaker 1: Bourbon Pub right on Bourbon Street in New Orleans at
Speaker 1: two pm in the afternoon. The tickets are ten dollars.
Speaker 1: Is runch for the reigning Court and some of the formers,
Speaker 1: and I host that too. And that's where we really
Speaker 1: get to cut up because at the pageant I got
Speaker 1: to be semi professional, but at the brunch I could
Speaker 1: be completely ignorant. She get ready for it. Oh my god, Blue,
Speaker 1: let's say the word. The word is blue, Bobby, It's blue.
Speaker 1: Speaking of blue. This past Wednesday, I did a show
Speaker 1: with Changelo from RuPaul's Drag Race. Now djis DJ and
Speaker 1: Chandela and he's getting back in to stand up and
Speaker 1: we had a great time myself, him, Jonathan ooh yeah,
Speaker 1: and a girl named Kathy, and Jennifer Lewis was in
Speaker 1: the audience. Lena Waite was in the audience and loved
Speaker 1: the show. Loved me that I was hysterically funny. And
Speaker 1: DJ was really really good Shanda, because you know, she's
Speaker 1: been going through a little bit in her personal and
Speaker 1: now she's coming back and now she's doing stand up
Speaker 1: as DJ. Very good, very consistent. Was a lot of storytelling,
Speaker 1: but it was funny. The way she told the stories
Speaker 1: were funny. So she kept moving for forty five minutes.
Speaker 1: I thought that was well worth it, and she was
Speaker 1: very good. So thank you for that. So you gonna
Speaker 1: get a career back, you know, y'all get mad when
Speaker 1: somebody do something or say something. I don't know all
Speaker 1: the particulars of what had happened, but I just wanted
Speaker 1: her to know that as a friend, I still support her.
Speaker 2: And I think that's all that you can do, and
Speaker 2: the truth ends up coming out. I saw something. Actually,
Speaker 2: it's funny that you said that about Andrew Cuomo. The
Speaker 2: person who was bringing charges up against him. The day before,
Speaker 2: the last day that they could bring stuff forward dropped.
Speaker 2: It dropped the case.
Speaker 1: And after all of this and we lost him as
Speaker 1: the governor, Bobby, So I just can you see me,
Speaker 1: I can see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, sorry that I do not disturb on. I
Speaker 2: don't know why I'm being disturbed.
Speaker 1: Yes, that that is, and that is and that is
Speaker 1: what they you know about To hear you say that,
Speaker 1: it's just like they played that that part like a
Speaker 1: chess game. So wonderful to get him removed out of
Speaker 1: the seat of governor with a whole sack of bullshit,
Speaker 1: because there was just a bunch of Now that person
Speaker 1: didn't even come forward. It's just a bunch of bullshit.
Speaker 1: But he lost his job. His credibility is shattered, you know,
Speaker 1: his reputation is it's just it'sus, Bobby, it is hit
Speaker 1: before we get into our real topics.
Speaker 2: Oh God, I.
Speaker 1: Think you're going to mention yes, my opinion how I feel.
Speaker 1: I do not think that jay Z did any of
Speaker 1: these allegations that they're accusing him of. You would have
Speaker 1: left you what.
Speaker 2: A different way? Well we'll see that too. I mean,
Speaker 2: so here's the good news. With both Andrew Cuomo not
Speaker 2: necessarily Changela, and with jay Z, the two of them,
Speaker 2: two of the gentlemen have the money to get good,
Speaker 2: good litigators. So I think the truth just like with
Speaker 2: Andrew Croomo, she had to bring forward the person who
Speaker 2: was bringing the case had to bring forward, you know,
Speaker 2: reliable evidence and had no evidence to bring. I think
Speaker 2: the same thing's going to happen from for jay Z.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I think that it'll all come out in Lawash if
Speaker 2: he is innocent, which I've never heard anybody say anything
Speaker 2: bad about him. I think it will come out Inlawash.
Speaker 2: He was involved in those parties. But you know how
Speaker 2: they have the two tier ones they have like the
Speaker 2: evening party and then they have the I can't even
Speaker 2: think of the expression they used anymore. The crazy ones.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was necessarily about powers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the after but this is quiet him being married
Speaker 2: and everything. He was only I think he was in
Speaker 2: the late twenties or whatever, so he could be at
Speaker 2: the after hours. He wasn't. He didn't have to speak
Speaker 2: up to anybody.
Speaker 1: That story has been unfolding. For the bits and pieces
Speaker 1: that I have seen, I'm just going to say this
Speaker 1: as the father of a teenage daughter, and I went
Speaker 1: to school with a girl named Tracy Faulkner in the
Speaker 1: eighth grade. This girl was in eighth grade, and I
Speaker 1: promise you she looked like somebody's mama. She was built
Speaker 1: like a brickshit house bobby she was, and she had
Speaker 1: she didn't have an adult face, but her body was
Speaker 1: so we were mesmerized that her body looked like man
Speaker 1: when I was thirty and man was you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: man man made. But she was so she was so
Speaker 1: curvacious and big booze. So I'm sure that older man
Speaker 1: was hitting it. And so remember that jay Z was
Speaker 1: still jay Z in two thousand, which is where she
Speaker 1: said it happened. She could I'm not saying that he
Speaker 1: didn't do it or that he did do it. But
Speaker 1: she could have been one of those young girls who
Speaker 1: was built like that. And it is jay Z. And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell him my real age. That's not
Speaker 1: this is just my mind speculating because you have to
Speaker 1: look at but you have to look at all the variables.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just say him was guilty, and
Speaker 1: I'm not blaming her, but until we get all the sorts,
Speaker 1: because people are so crazy to convict, the court of
Speaker 1: public opinion will put you in jail long before the
Speaker 1: sentence or the crime, even the truth comes out. So
Speaker 1: we hass off to jay Z. I support j Z
Speaker 1: over here. And by the way, jay Z and Beyonce,
Speaker 1: hats off to you for letting Blue Ivy shine on
Speaker 1: the red carpet the other day. She looked like a young,
Speaker 1: beautiful young woman. She's a young lady. Yes, she was
Speaker 1: so nice and she was dressed age appropriate. And I
Speaker 1: love that Tina Tina Nose ran over, the grandmama ran
Speaker 1: over to fix the hair. And I've been hearing so
Speaker 1: many negative comments about the young girls dress. And first
Speaker 1: of all, let me tell you all what y'all don't
Speaker 1: understand about her doing an audible book I'm fifty, she's twelve.
Speaker 1: I complained about it because the work was so hard.
Speaker 1: I can only imagine what it was like for her
Speaker 1: to do a whole movie and have to sit in
Speaker 1: that booth eight nine, ten hours, because y'all, y'all just
Speaker 1: don't know the other side when you're so quick to
Speaker 1: throw somebody up under the bus. So I had to
Speaker 1: get that off my chest. Let's go, Bobby, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go, Let's go.
Speaker 2: She's a cute combination of both of her parents too.
Speaker 2: She's not I thought she always looked just like the dad,
Speaker 2: and they went, oh, we'll see what she's like when
Speaker 2: she gets older. She was adorable. I could see in
Speaker 2: there too. So she's the nice combination.
Speaker 1: You know, Like to Reby, she looks like the sister Soldge.
Speaker 2: She actually, yeah, you're exactly right. And she's a multi
Speaker 2: bazillionaire as it is because her parents had her. They
Speaker 2: had her involved in what was his one of his
Speaker 2: songs or something in her voice, and they took her
Speaker 2: money that she got from that, and they invested it
Speaker 2: and you know, compound interest. You know, she's a gazillionaire
Speaker 2: right now from that, So she doesn't need to screw
Speaker 2: everybody else. She doesn't need anything. She can laugh all
Speaker 2: the way to the bank. I thought you were going
Speaker 2: to say when you said something was preponderous.
Speaker 4: I thought you were going to say that that Trump
Speaker 4: was named person of the Year by Time magazine for
Speaker 4: the secondary when I tell you, because we know that
Speaker 4: he loved he's an attention whole.
Speaker 1: I know they got his goat. Oh my, I know
Speaker 1: he was walking around the house and his tidy white.
Speaker 1: He's with her erection all day. Good god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't even know what they what they were,
Speaker 2: but I was a little flabbergasted. And then because there's
Speaker 2: a criteria, and the criteria is they said it's a
Speaker 2: group or person who was deemed to have wielded the
Speaker 2: greatest influence on global affairs. This is the kicker for
Speaker 2: good or for ill. So you don't have to have
Speaker 2: so some of the people in the running were Kamala
Speaker 2: Harris Netan Yahoo. Oh there was somebody else in a
Speaker 2: blanket on his name. There was somebody that we kind
Speaker 2: of would have gone. And then Trump so and he did. Hey,
Speaker 2: he he left all the way to the to the
Speaker 2: polls and one you know, he ran the most racial misogynistic,
Speaker 2: negative campaign in the history of all campaigns. Literally, you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it nicely. This is CNN, and I've
Speaker 2: heard Charlie Sykes and about a dozen other pundits say it.
Speaker 2: And he still won. We still voted him in, So they.
Speaker 1: Still they still voted him.
Speaker 2: I'm saying we as the collective, as I know, I
Speaker 2: know little and a little disappointed.
Speaker 1: So and let's just show you how fair we are
Speaker 1: over here at let alone. Congratulations to President lake Donald
Speaker 1: Trump for four acquirement Person of the Year. I don't
Speaker 1: know what, I don't know who how all those angles
Speaker 1: that he came in worked, But they did work because
Speaker 1: he would do worse than he did the week before,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this is gonna be his
Speaker 1: nailing his coffin. He was like impangible. Everything he did
Speaker 1: just worked. It just worked.
Speaker 2: Think of it even now though, flame you know, I
Speaker 2: was saying this to my mom earlier because I.
Speaker 1: Uhh uh.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, calling there, I catch it go. Have you
Speaker 2: ever heard or do you remember, any of the last
Speaker 2: five presidents will say that will maybe even five is
Speaker 2: too long for us age wise to think, because some
Speaker 2: of them had eight year terms. Do you remember every
Speaker 2: one of their cabinet choices being announced, them being in
Speaker 2: the time from election to the time of inauguration, in
Speaker 2: the in the news cycle twenty four to seven. He
Speaker 2: hasn't stopped. We know everything that he's doing. He knows
Speaker 2: how to manipulate. So anybody doesn't think that he's bright enough.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's savvy with presidential stuff, with world
Speaker 2: affairs and all that. I don't think he's got the
Speaker 2: attention span for it. But he certainly knows how to
Speaker 2: be the best marketer, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2: He's I mean, he's got He has Chris Ray, who
Speaker 2: he appointed for the FBI, who said he absolutely wasn't
Speaker 2: going to leave, has now announced that he is. He's
Speaker 2: only going to sign. He's only going to serve out
Speaker 2: the the Biden term. And so whatever Trump did or said,
Speaker 2: or the harassment that he has been getting from it,
Speaker 2: He's going to be able to appoint Cash Battel just
Speaker 2: like he wants. And this was his guy. This guy
Speaker 2: has I think he's got three more years on his
Speaker 2: on his contract. He doesn't he didn't have to leave,
Speaker 2: but Trump's been able to force him out, so out
Speaker 2: he'll go. And he's angry because of the documents. Right,
Speaker 2: So Chris Ray had to go along with the with
Speaker 2: the with the subpoenas and whatnot. Let his house be served.
Speaker 2: That that was it. Now Trump could have just handed
Speaker 2: the documents in and avoided all of that. I swear
Speaker 2: half of that was so that we saw him as
Speaker 2: a victim. And you know, it made people more outraged
Speaker 2: and whatnot. I think you've put it like and on that.
Speaker 1: You mentioned the name that cash retail is more than
Speaker 1: a nocean. Yeah, I'm gonna get ready, cause that cash
Speaker 1: retail is more than a nocean. He looks like a
Speaker 1: man too.
Speaker 2: He he absolutely is. He He is the one that
Speaker 2: is holding strong with this retribution stuff. You know, it
Speaker 2: really makes me nervous. I saw. I don't know if
Speaker 2: you had a chance to see the Trump interview with
Speaker 2: is it Kristen Welker that is on Meet the Press
Speaker 2: She interviewed him. I watched probably two thirds of it
Speaker 2: before something happened and I didn't get to watch it.
Speaker 2: But the way he's wording it is he said, I'm
Speaker 2: not looking for retribution and I'm not going to bring
Speaker 2: any cases fluid, he said, But if Bondi or Patel
Speaker 2: like you know, if my if the people under me
Speaker 2: find cases to bring forward, I can't do anything with
Speaker 2: that because I'm not involved, you know, in the d
Speaker 2: O J and Babby Bobby Boo. So you better buckle
Speaker 2: up because we're going to see a lot of We're
Speaker 2: gonna see a lot of crazy stuff that's gonna that's
Speaker 2: gonna kind of come down the pike.
Speaker 1: Is that is that? Oh? I forgot what I was
Speaker 1: going to ask you, Bobby? Is that overplay for the underplay?
Speaker 1: For the overplay? I can't do it, but my crony
Speaker 1: can't do it.
Speaker 2: Get it, But it won't be me. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to take responsibility. I mean. The one thing that we
Speaker 2: did see is that the FBI was not involved in
Speaker 2: the January sixth riots. There was some talk about them
Speaker 2: being out like, you know, having undercover people out in
Speaker 2: the in the field. That came out this this week
Speaker 2: that no, they didn't. The one thing that they didn't
Speaker 2: do they passed some information on but they probably should
Speaker 2: have known a little bit more of what was going
Speaker 2: to happen prior to what happening. But that's all they
Speaker 2: You know, that's kind of all it came out came
Speaker 2: out on that. Did you see that the drones? People
Speaker 2: are losing their bananas over the drones in New Jersey?
Speaker 2: There are drones that have been that have come out
Speaker 2: the Pentagon and Homeland Security says that it had they
Speaker 2: had nothing to do. They're not outside influences. People are
Speaker 2: losing their bananas. I guess they're flashing green and red
Speaker 2: lights and they're they're not happy. I think it's people
Speaker 2: screwing with other people. I think it's personal people that
Speaker 2: own the drones and they're just they're just coming out
Speaker 2: and just being pills just because.
Speaker 1: And what's the name of the FBI director who just
Speaker 1: stepped down? Is that who you were speaking about?
Speaker 2: Yes, that's Chris Ray. He's going to he's gonna So
Speaker 2: if Biden is in until the nineteenth, he's into the nineteenth.
Speaker 1: Bobby, It is what you said about all of these appointees.
Speaker 1: He hasn't even gotten in office yet. And when I
Speaker 1: tell you, he gets the president gets way more game
Speaker 1: time on TV, way more coverage, way more footage than
Speaker 1: the sitting president Joe.
Speaker 2: With boy Biden, we were not even hearing. I mean
Speaker 2: the one thing that So I've been hearing a lot
Speaker 2: of bullshit about that too, and it makes me angry. Oh,
Speaker 2: we haven't heard from from Harris. She's gone, Biden's gone,
Speaker 2: they've stepped out. And then, you know, I read other
Speaker 2: articles that are telling me that Biden and his administration
Speaker 2: are desperate to try to get some sort of peace
Speaker 2: deal back on now that now that the head deal
Speaker 2: deal was underway with with Israel, I don't know how
Speaker 2: successful it's been. He's anxious to get something with per
Speaker 2: Gaza on the books prior to Trump coming in. So
Speaker 2: he's behind closed doors, so you're not seeing him. I
Speaker 2: don't need to see my president all of the time.
Speaker 2: I want him doing the workflame, I don't care what
Speaker 2: you know. I don't need to see his puss every
Speaker 2: two seconds.
Speaker 1: So well, you're going to wait, wait to day, wait
Speaker 1: to jay way to twenty first, this fool go bo
Speaker 1: TV every single day. Oh yes, and.
Speaker 2: Chalk and smack. I'll tell you the other thing that
Speaker 2: Biden was doing. He's he's done fifteen hundred commutations and
Speaker 2: and pardons for nonviolent crimes. So he's been a busy boy.
Speaker 2: Not only his son, other people if they if they
Speaker 2: had any type of non retribution, I can't even think
Speaker 2: of the word, you know, if they're showing showing any
Speaker 2: type of improvement, he put them on the bar, the
Speaker 2: pardoner list, so.
Speaker 3: He might.
Speaker 1: He may as well do a mass part because Trump
Speaker 1: is all he promised to partner all the people from
Speaker 1: January to sixth and is thousands of people.
Speaker 2: Thousands he says they were it was too harsh, not
Speaker 2: but they all didn't get Everybody kind of got a
Speaker 2: sentence that was keeping with what their role was to play.
Speaker 2: So the people who got actual time were the people
Speaker 2: who orchestrated it, who are injured, people who had the
Speaker 2: the pepper spray and all the other stuff. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: But he is he's been saying that he's trying to
Speaker 2: President Trump is trying to align that to President Biden
Speaker 2: pardoning his own son. And the only reason I think Biden,
Speaker 2: what we all think is pardoning his son is because
Speaker 2: of this retribution. If it was if he actually could
Speaker 2: get a fair shake, I think that that he would
Speaker 2: let President Biden would let it go. But he's too
Speaker 2: nervous of Trump, you know, investigating, continuing the investigations, even
Speaker 2: though seen nothing with burisma and all that stuff. But
Speaker 2: that said, he kind of put us in a in
Speaker 2: a sticky wick at President Biden by doing it, because
Speaker 2: you know, Trump's gonna manipulate that a million ways from Friday.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, do your thing, do your thing Trump. It's so
Speaker 1: hard to stop getting hostile or to keep getting hostile
Speaker 1: about the mere fact that we didn't want to make
Speaker 1: We didn't want him. Some of us didn't want him
Speaker 1: to be the president. You know. The jail thing was
Speaker 1: like I never thought he was gonna go to jail,
Speaker 1: and now he's nothing. What ever happened to him like that?
Speaker 1: But just for him, I didn't want him back in
Speaker 1: public office. But what our money and what and what
Speaker 1: they wanted is very different.
Speaker 2: They want to change Franker. I just don't think he's
Speaker 2: the fella that is going to you know, he's an agitator.
Speaker 2: He could go in and and speak what people that
Speaker 2: are unhappy want, But I just don't think he's he's
Speaker 2: he's going to be the guy. So he was on
Speaker 2: he was going to take inflation down. He is putting
Speaker 2: the tariffs in. He's already started to backpedal on the tariffs.
Speaker 2: He's already said to the American people now this week, Well,
Speaker 2: I can't promise that it's not going to raise prices
Speaker 2: for stuff. Well that was the whole reason you were
Speaker 2: putting it in, and that's what you said while you
Speaker 2: were while you were running. And now even though the economists,
Speaker 2: the best economist, Nobel Prize winners, people from Wharton where
Speaker 2: he went to graduate school, he's backpedaling on it because
Speaker 2: of course it's not true. You can't raise the prices
Speaker 2: on somebody and nothing that they're going to raise the
Speaker 2: prices so they can get their same their same money
Speaker 2: back on investment for stuff. So what I'm disappointed is
Speaker 2: some of the people I know he puts in are
Speaker 2: absolutely crazy. But some of these departments, So we have
Speaker 2: the dojure department that Ramaswami and Muscar got run and
Speaker 2: now I never thought we were going to hear this
Speaker 2: name again, and I was kind of happy he's got
Speaker 2: carried late as the head of this new department. The
Speaker 2: Voice of America, she know my voice. I don't even
Speaker 2: know what she talks about like she is. She's crazy.
Speaker 1: She's Trump with a vagina, She's.
Speaker 2: Trump two point zero with the vagina, because she actually
Speaker 2: she will.
Speaker 1: See Trump to point o vagina period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it, that's it. Yeah, on a nasty one.
Speaker 2: Oh I kind of I'm gonna get gross. No, I'm
Speaker 2: not going to because I think she she would have
Speaker 2: the nerve to do a lot of stuff that he
Speaker 2: won't because he does care. The one thing he wants
Speaker 2: is people to love him, and so he does kind
Speaker 2: of care what people think. Now, I don't think she
Speaker 2: gives a Ratcherry ran in who thinks whatever? But what
Speaker 2: this I would love to know a little bit more
Speaker 2: of what the voice of America means. Please Jesus, don't
Speaker 2: want to be over there talking to the Middle Eastern people.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, can you see her? Her with the
Speaker 2: dog killer.
Speaker 1: He's creating all these physicians for all of these really
Speaker 1: really out of the trow individuals that will unfortunately have
Speaker 1: a bearing on the collateral damage, which is the American people.
Speaker 2: Wasn't he supposed to save money? Isn't that what Dojia
Speaker 2: supposed to do? They're supposed to save us money. You
Speaker 2: can't tell me he's not paying these people at least
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty thousand dollars, which would be huge
Speaker 2: money for a government job. I mean, they're not going
Speaker 2: to do it for free. So you're creating higher level
Speaker 2: executive positions. But you're gonna that's probably four or five jobs,
Speaker 2: well four because they get benefits, you know, of the
Speaker 2: people he's that he's willing to cut. So I don't know,
Speaker 2: but they're all Hagspiths, they're all shaken, the they're all
Speaker 2: up on Capitol Hills shaken the Senators and trying to
Speaker 2: get trying to get in this week.
Speaker 1: Oh no, have you said that Matt Gates is starting
Speaker 1: a podcast? Oh?
Speaker 2: I hope he doesn't take our people.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's things will go over there. I
Speaker 1: think they're a little too bright to go over to
Speaker 1: that it's going to be. And they say it's already foolishness,
Speaker 1: just out of control. But listen, and I think if
Speaker 1: more people afford the opportunities to see what they could do,
Speaker 1: Like Matt gaz you just got this new point and
Speaker 1: it's just not with some of these cabinet picks that
Speaker 1: he's done, then people be like, oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were not good for this position. They're not good
Speaker 1: so they made the right choice. But unfortunately it's not
Speaker 1: going to go down like that we're going to have
Speaker 1: to live through a lot of foolishness, Bobby foolish.
Speaker 2: No, we are gonna We're going to have to We're
Speaker 2: going to have to pay attention to there's too many
Speaker 2: of us that do things or say things and believe things.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this before. Please get a reputable news
Speaker 2: news cycle and news station to watch, and don't just
Speaker 2: watch it that it was something else. I know people
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of time, but we're in our cars,
Speaker 2: we're doing all sorts of stuff that we can listen to.
Speaker 2: Reasonable people, not necessarily like the Matt Gates, like some
Speaker 2: there'll be somebody that will believe. They'll listen to him
Speaker 2: and believe everything he says, and then that's gospel and
Speaker 2: it's not God. Blessom. He'll have a following though, because
Speaker 2: you know the mega people, that's a that's a large population,
Speaker 2: you know. And if he if he does nothing but
Speaker 2: uh support Trump, even with the craziness, you know, the
Speaker 2: crazy talk, the crazy masks, then he'll do all right
Speaker 2: for ratings. Bless his little heart. But yeah, Chelsea Gabbard,
Speaker 2: they've all been up there, they've all been up on
Speaker 2: the hill this week blessed their little hearts, trying to
Speaker 2: trying to get their their positions.
Speaker 1: Who gets in the ring. Has been heavy this week, Bobby,
Speaker 1: it's been heavy.
Speaker 2: It's been awful. When he's talking, we already said he's
Speaker 2: talking about pardons. I mean, he's he's saying that day
Speaker 2: one that that he's going to be pardoning. He he
Speaker 2: was outlining on that Chris Welker Christian Welker uh interview,
Speaker 2: like the things that he's going to do. He's on
Speaker 2: day one, they're going to go after obviously the criminals first.
Speaker 2: As far as immigration, he did say something about working
Speaker 2: with Democrats for the dreamers because people must be screaming
Speaker 2: about that with him, you know, so he actually he
Speaker 2: actually said something about that. Something that's actually in the
Speaker 2: fourteenth Amendment of the Constitution you can't do anything about
Speaker 2: is getting rid of the birthright. So if you know
Speaker 2: you were here and you had a baby, that baby
Speaker 2: is automatically an American if you want want it to be.
Speaker 2: And he's saying, no, no other country does it, that's
Speaker 2: not true. CNN came out there are thirty three other
Speaker 2: countries that do it. So there were a lot of
Speaker 2: countries that do that, so.
Speaker 1: He's get rid of that. Him spitting misinformation is how
Speaker 1: he actually won the presidency. So this are we are
Speaker 1: we shocked at all? Yeah, but is he going to.
Speaker 2: Be able to do it like like the like the tariffs,
Speaker 2: He's not going to be able to do He's not
Speaker 2: going to get it across the line.
Speaker 1: So well, the terroriffs that get have me afraid because
Speaker 1: we must say that it's going to be tight for
Speaker 1: a while. If he raises the terrors, they're going to
Speaker 1: raise the tears on that spotty food. Everything is going
Speaker 1: to be astronomically high and scared our mission. I already
Speaker 1: told my key, y'all gonna get used to soup. We're
Speaker 1: going to be listening.
Speaker 2: It's not a lie. They came out this week. So
Speaker 2: jobs went up again, I think two hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: seven thousand, but inflation is rising a little bit, and
Speaker 2: we were kind of tamping it down I think by
Speaker 2: two point seven percent, and it's on vegetables, and who
Speaker 2: picks the vegetables. The migrants, and a lot of migrants
Speaker 2: are self deporting themselves to get out because they don't
Speaker 2: want to get they want to be able to try
Speaker 2: to come in another time or so, I don't know
Speaker 2: how they're they're going back and forth, but this is
Speaker 2: he's rising prices and he's not even in yet, Like
Speaker 2: you know, because of what he's saying. The prices are rising.
Speaker 2: We complain that on him, this on him, but sort
Speaker 2: of his rhetoric is sort of getting them, getting him
Speaker 2: to where we are. But I think, is it that time?
Speaker 1: No? No, no, because the fear of the migrants is
Speaker 1: if they get caught, they are banned from coming back
Speaker 1: to the United States for ten years.
Speaker 2: That's what that's what their part.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I get that they're running. I get that.
Speaker 1: Speaking of running, let's talk about Luigi.
Speaker 2: Say his name Bobby, he says me, but the Italians
Speaker 2: would say Mangoni. So I can't even I feel such
Speaker 2: a certain way.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Bobby charged up so she can give
Speaker 1: it to y'all the way y'all need to have it,
Speaker 1: because he is he was a he is a handsome man,
Speaker 1: and he was very irate because his dad, of support
Speaker 1: of supposed to his father and grandfather or something died.
Speaker 1: The healthcare department, the health care didn't come through. It
Speaker 1: was just it's so many stories. So you don't know
Speaker 1: where to go. But so Bobby was explaining to me,
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm learning too. This is laugh and learning.
Speaker 1: I'm learning too. Bobby was explaining to me about how
Speaker 1: the healthcare system works, only back in of what he
Speaker 1: was going for. But then then Bobby hit me in
Speaker 1: the head with a hammer. Oh Bobby, please tell I
Speaker 1: can't tell it like you tell it, Bobby, please tell it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So the first thing I'm going to say is
Speaker 2: that his so obviously he's Italian. I'd say if I
Speaker 2: was making a joke, I'd say, Luigi Mangioni is a
Speaker 2: nice Irish boy. He was wealthy and brought up in
Speaker 2: privilege and some of the best private schools in Ivy
Speaker 2: League schools that you can have, on the back of
Speaker 2: his grandfather who came in. I think he might have
Speaker 2: been a mason, but I don't know quickly. But he
Speaker 2: didn't like the way that healthcare was going, so he
Speaker 2: started nursing homes. So he was in healthcare himself and
Speaker 2: made a fortune.
Speaker 1: On you.
Speaker 2: He did the right thing. He had nice nursing homes
Speaker 2: blah blah blah, And so that trickled down and then
Speaker 2: the father took over the company and whatever. And I
Speaker 2: had heard that the mom might have had some sort
Speaker 2: of neurological whatever they've said since United can't find any
Speaker 2: connection between this young man and their healthcare company, is
Speaker 2: what it's coming. They're still looking, but they can't find
Speaker 2: a connection. The only thing that the authorities are thinking
Speaker 2: is that because it's the largest company, that maybe he
Speaker 2: was going after the largest first. So what I can
Speaker 2: tell you what flummis me with this and see a
Speaker 2: lot of people are finding him, which will go into
Speaker 2: a little bit more later that he's this big hero.
Speaker 2: He's not a hero. He stopped him in the dock
Speaker 2: and shot him in the back when he didn't even
Speaker 2: get to see what he was doing. This man, this
Speaker 2: man who was a husband and a father of two children,
Speaker 2: and he works for United. And what I know about
Speaker 2: United through my healthcare experiences is that they're a TPA,
Speaker 2: a third party administrator, and that means for self insured groups,
Speaker 2: they choose somebody to handle their day to day operations,
Speaker 2: maybe collecting of premiums. Not everybody does all of these things,
Speaker 2: but there are some things that you can actually do,
Speaker 2: so they can they can collect premiums, they administer the claim,
Speaker 2: so they adjudicate them, they go through them. They look
Speaker 2: at the guidelines that have been set forward from the
Speaker 2: either the what the employer chose, because they probably have
Speaker 2: some sort of menu, or what they create themselves. I'm
Speaker 2: going to give you an example we have. We had
Speaker 2: a bunch of Catholic hospitals that were here in the Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: in Boston area, and they were a self funder group
Speaker 2: through I don't know who did their administration could have
Speaker 2: been united, but I have no idea. And of course
Speaker 2: they didn't want to have contraception abortions vyseectomies included because
Speaker 2: in Catholicism they don't believe in it a man and
Speaker 2: woman have whatever reason, it's because we were the Bible,
Speaker 2: we were populating the earth and nobody updated. They're to say, yeah,
Speaker 2: but we got to feed because half of the people died,
Speaker 2: we're going to feed them and all that. Anyway, they
Speaker 2: chose to eliminate those two particular bands because it wasn't
Speaker 2: within their guidelines, within their the Catholic doctrine. So they
Speaker 2: could because self under groups, self insured groups can make
Speaker 2: up these rules. So anyway, this young man shot the
Speaker 2: executive of a TPA who wasn't even telling people that
Speaker 2: they couldn't have claims. He's only going by what's outlined
Speaker 2: for them. So I just don't if he was looking
Speaker 2: to have some sort of change and we needed. The
Speaker 2: healthcare in the United States is awful. We have the care,
Speaker 2: we have the knowledge, we're smart. But as far as
Speaker 2: doing it in a cost effective manner, I think we are.
Speaker 2: It's eighteen point five percent at least when I got
Speaker 2: my masters five or ten years ago, and I don't
Speaker 2: think it's changed. It's eighteen point five percent of the
Speaker 2: GPA of the gross domestic excuse me product. I can't
Speaker 2: even get my letters out GDP of the United States
Speaker 2: eighteen out. That's huge, just healthcare alone. So we have
Speaker 2: to be able to do it better. So, but if
Speaker 2: he wanted to pick up his his grandfather's torch and
Speaker 2: carry it forward shooting somebody in the back, that's not
Speaker 2: the way to do it.
Speaker 1: Bobby. When you started off telling this story just right now,
Speaker 1: talking about he came from privilege, he was rich, it
Speaker 1: is a great go back to the adage of money
Speaker 1: does not make you happy. Being wealthy does not make it.
Speaker 1: Because it's Bobby, he was and he was the valedictorian
Speaker 1: of this really high end high school. Double what was
Speaker 1: he a double masters or double ba? He had double degrees.
Speaker 2: Double dom is what he was. He didn't sink this out.
Speaker 1: He was afforded all the luxuries that so many of
Speaker 1: us wish that we had, and and his grandmother and
Speaker 1: his inheritance was enormous. But because of these criminal charges,
Speaker 1: he might not be able to get their inheritance. I'm like,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna use it for a commissaries?
Speaker 2: Right, because he's gonna be he shot somebody and an
Speaker 2: absolute you know, cold blood, he's not. And he didn't
Speaker 2: try to have a conversation as far as anything that
Speaker 2: was that was completely premeditated.
Speaker 1: He thought this man that that should be a lifetime appointment,
Speaker 1: you know. But money and privilege does different things. Because
Speaker 1: you see that she was trying to get the Minita's
Speaker 1: brothers out, and everybody he talks something, well, they did
Speaker 1: thirty five years. They killed their parents. Let's remember that
Speaker 1: they killed their mother and father and they were rich. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and to do it shot the mother, went out to
Speaker 1: the car, reloaded and came back and shot her again.
Speaker 1: That value used to get on my nerves. It was
Speaker 1: a couple of times I wanted to do some things
Speaker 1: to her, but I was scared about it. And people say, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't Why didn't they go stay with friends? They
Speaker 1: couldn't go stay with any of their friends. They had
Speaker 1: broken in all of their friends' homes. These were bad people.
Speaker 1: They are bad kids.
Speaker 2: They are and could their attitudes and whatever changed. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: But you don't have to go home, do you know?
Speaker 2: Like he could have said, start a podcast, gather information,
Speaker 2: but first of all, get the right people who are responsible,
Speaker 2: and then there's only oh please the insurance company and
Speaker 2: companies make me crazy anyway. But he doesn't even have
Speaker 2: there's not even some clear case that we could look
Speaker 2: at for him and see sort of where where he got.
Speaker 1: About it. Yeah. Well, here's what really blows me out
Speaker 1: the water. If he thought that he was doing something
Speaker 1: to heroic. The people that have made him the minern
Speaker 1: day Robinhood are the ones who are really baffling me,
Speaker 1: because I'm with you, Bobby. You didn't even face the
Speaker 1: person that you were going to kill. You shot him
Speaker 1: in the back. That was in the cowboy Western era.
Speaker 1: You would get hume for that, because if you had
Speaker 1: to have a shootout. You shoot out face to face,
Speaker 1: you have this altercation faced face, you stop this man
Speaker 1: waiting for him walking away, didn't say anything and just
Speaker 1: shoving back and killed this man. Like you said, Bobby,
Speaker 1: he's a parent, he's a dad, he's a husband.
Speaker 2: He's absolutely and he might have done things we don't
Speaker 2: agree with. He might he did this kid, but it
Speaker 2: turns turns out he's not. He doesn't. He might have
Speaker 2: had something valid to say about how he handled the business.
Speaker 1: But I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't see it. Yeah, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 2: he's a hero. And what I'm more disgusted with playing
Speaker 2: and I really am, is that some of these people
Speaker 2: that are coming through is a Pierce Pierce. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: who's the He's English, He's he does like some news.
Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna say, rast didn't. I'm like,
Speaker 2: I know, that's not right. He had a few a
Speaker 2: few people on younger people, they were in their twenties.
Speaker 2: And this one girl, beautiful looking girl, dark hair, was
Speaker 2: saying that she found this joyful that all of the
Speaker 2: people that Thompson, he's the CEO, had killed, And I'm like,
Speaker 2: he didn't kill anybody you know, it's oh my god.
Speaker 2: He might have handled things, maybe the way you want,
Speaker 2: you didn't want, But again, he's not making the actual decisions.
Speaker 2: He's not down holding it, you know, holding their feet
Speaker 2: to the fire or saying no. It's based on what
Speaker 2: their insurance, what insurance they actually had some of these,
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous. You're paying a fortune. United does have a
Speaker 2: higher cost sharing, meaning you have more deductible copaid co
Speaker 2: insurance than some of the other plans, but they all
Speaker 2: seem to be catching up with it because there's only
Speaker 2: so much money in the pot. We're heavy and unhealthy,
Speaker 2: so we need a lot of insurance. In this country.
Speaker 1: The mindset of America is sit back. It really is,
Speaker 1: because it's just crazy. Bobby. I don't understand. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that we our logic is always completely right,
Speaker 1: but good god, do you just not see the pitch
Speaker 1: in the frame? Why does the picture have to be
Speaker 1: outside the frame? No?
Speaker 2: I don't get it. And you know what I found
Speaker 2: as a weird which kind of keeps popping up in
Speaker 2: my mind. So this was a guy who didn't really
Speaker 2: do anything. He did the wrong thing, and he thought
Speaker 2: he was making some sort of statement and people were
Speaker 2: rah rah rah rah rah. And then you have Daniel Penny,
Speaker 2: who was found not guilty of killing kind. I know
Speaker 2: Nealy is his last name. I cont to Jordan, but
Speaker 2: he was somebody who when for Neely who I think.
Speaker 2: I think at the bottom line is that the healthcare
Speaker 2: system filled him with mental health because he had such
Speaker 2: mental health. He was going up to people on the
Speaker 2: train telling him he was going to kill them. He
Speaker 2: doesn't care if he goes to jail. He wasn't begging
Speaker 2: for money. That's what they thought in the beginning. That
Speaker 2: wasn't what was happening. It was somebody that was so
Speaker 2: desperate that he was going to make some sort of something.
Speaker 2: That's what Daniel Penny thought, good or bad. And maybe
Speaker 2: the charges should have been written up differently and he
Speaker 2: would have been found guilty on something. But he is
Speaker 2: somebody that took action to help others, and he's a villain,
Speaker 2: and the other one shot somebody in the back and
Speaker 2: somehow he's a hero. I think there's some weird juxtaposition.
Speaker 1: Daniel Petty is a villain in my eyes because he's
Speaker 1: a trained marine. My partner is in the military, was
Speaker 1: in the military, yeap, and they tell you you cannot
Speaker 1: use that choke hold because that choke hol will kill
Speaker 1: you in a minute and a half on civilians once
Speaker 1: you get out of the military. This is what my
Speaker 1: partner just told me. So I'm like, okay, it wasn't
Speaker 1: that he didn't subdue the man. He had the man subdued,
Speaker 1: but he would not let go. He kept the same
Speaker 1: hard choke hold on this man the entire time that
Speaker 1: you could have released once you had him down and
Speaker 1: he nodded out of the way, you could have released,
Speaker 1: but you continued to choke hold him, and then you
Speaker 1: got off, and then you went to a bar celebrating
Speaker 1: with your lawyer in public. People took video of it.
Speaker 1: You know, big brother sees everything.
Speaker 2: Now, Oh no, I thought that was I thought that
Speaker 2: was distasteful. Would you go up, maybe go go a
Speaker 2: few things over to have your celebratory luncheon or whatever
Speaker 2: you're gonna have. But I'm just saying he took a risk,
Speaker 2: and he wasn't the only one. There were people holding
Speaker 2: him down with him. But then, but and we think
Speaker 2: he's terrible, But a guy who shoots somebody in the
Speaker 2: dark in the back we we think he's wonderful, but
Speaker 2: we're joyful that he did something about the healthcare.
Speaker 1: Again, the mindset of America is a setback because there's
Speaker 1: a setup for a said.
Speaker 2: I mean, they're both wrong. I don't want you to
Speaker 2: think I'm just I just it's it's how different.
Speaker 1: I don't know well that prayers to Prayers to the
Speaker 1: Jordaneeley family, Prayers to the family of mister Thompson's. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so listen, Bobby were episode number twenty eight. We're coming
Speaker 1: up to the end of the year. I know you
Speaker 1: guys have had a fabulous twenty twenty four because twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five we're gonna really have to brace ourselves to
Speaker 1: see what is coming down the pike. We can run,
Speaker 1: we can hide, but if you're an America and then
Speaker 1: you live here, what we do is dig our heels
Speaker 1: into the ground and we just stand up against the
Speaker 1: wind and battle the wind because the wind is coming.
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Speaker 1: coming to the paget behind her sister's sows. She watched
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Speaker 1: with coming on, but sometimes I'll be moving around, sometimes
Speaker 1: Aaron be moving around. The only one that's always really
Speaker 1: ready and willing to go is Bobby. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: we thank you guys for riding with us, and we
Speaker 1: apologize for not always dropping on Wednesday. But here's the
Speaker 1: propogerous part. A lot of times the information really hits
Speaker 1: on Thursday, so we probably should be taping on Thursday
Speaker 1: because something seems to always happen the day after we
Speaker 1: take But right now, we just hear it to tell you,
Speaker 1: thank you, we appreciate you, and we will see you
Speaker 1: into it what we will see you next week. But Bobby, Bobby,
Speaker 1: you you don't have any clothes and words before we
Speaker 1: hit them. When i'm when i'm, I.
Speaker 2: Don't have anything. The only thing I do, the only
Speaker 2: other subject matter. I want people to kind of look
Speaker 2: at it because I'm thinking of our situation now, not
Speaker 2: that I'm saying that we're going there is. You saw
Speaker 2: that that Syria had a civil war and they foul,
Speaker 2: they pushed out Asad that whole horrible family. So just
Speaker 2: you know, when when you do your work and you
Speaker 2: and you keep fighting and you can get you can't
Speaker 2: get the bad people, uh you know, out of the
Speaker 2: chop seats. So just keep that in mind. And you
Speaker 2: saw putin welcome dinner and with with open arms.
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, pood to be having dinner at the White
Speaker 1: House come February.
Speaker 2: Wait Valentine's Day.
Speaker 1: He's coming to see his sweet haul.
Speaker 4: Yeah plea.
Speaker 1: Never hear left. We are not trying to get you
Speaker 1: to change your mind. The model will never change. We
Speaker 1: are not trying to get you to change your mind.
Speaker 1: We are only trying to get you to use your mind,
Speaker 1: because why Bobby, because.
Speaker 2: A mind and a volt are a terrible thing to waste.
Speaker 1: And you damn sure them wasted some of your votes.
Speaker 1: But so let's just let's hold on to the man
Speaker 1: because the vote is gone for at least for the
Speaker 1: next four years. Thank you guys for joining us. Thank
Speaker 1: thank you to Bob.
Speaker 2: You keep saying to Toms because if we could, if
Speaker 2: we don't do anything, they could win, they could be solid,
Speaker 2: but we could get the House in that and the
Speaker 2: Senate back and make things really miserable.
Speaker 1: Well that's where on that that's really pushed the ladies
Speaker 1: and Joe, if you are listening to us, we got
Speaker 1: two years to really get back our house and got said,
Speaker 1: if you want to get into politics, please do, please do,
Speaker 1: and please vote locally because the steps to get to
Speaker 1: where he's at now. He's the only person who didn't
Speaker 1: have to do anything local. Everybody else had to be
Speaker 1: something else. He just had to be a reality TV
Speaker 1: star and y'all voted for him. Shame on, y'all. Thank
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