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Speaker 1: This is all those famous Beyond the Bachelor with Susie Evans. Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good?

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Speaker 1: Are you? I'm good?

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Speaker 2: You look beautiful?

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Speaker 1: Thank you? So do you? Thank you?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's bring it back to the beginning.

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Speaker 3: What were your initial thoughts when you found out your

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Speaker 3: brother Joey was going on the Bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: I think just excitement all around. You were super excited. It

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Speaker 1: was such everything was unknown, so I think we were

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Speaker 1: just excited for the experience for him. I we joke

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Speaker 1: that my sister and I thought that he either was

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Speaker 1: going to go home night one or he was going

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Speaker 1: to make it to the very end. So we were right.

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Speaker 2: That is amazing, And honestly, it can go either way.

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Speaker 3: That's what's so funny and crazy about the Bachelor is

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Speaker 3: like people can go home night one and then you

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Speaker 3: meet them and you're like, oh my god, you're a

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Speaker 3: wonderful human. How did you not make it passed that

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Speaker 3: first night? And I really think just depending on the

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Speaker 3: Bachelor the Bachelorette, like it can determine so much about

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Speaker 3: the outcome. So it's funny that he made it all

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Speaker 3: the way. In a different world, he could have been

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Speaker 3: he could have been out there.

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Speaker 1: I know. I was so nervous because it was such

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Speaker 1: a risk to go and leaving his career on the

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Speaker 1: back burner for a little bit. And as we got

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Speaker 1: closer to the premiere, I was like, just make it

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Speaker 1: through the first night and get one rose because I

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Speaker 1: didn't want him to be embarrassed that he went on

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Speaker 1: the show. But obviously it worked out very well.

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Speaker 3: Totally, and honestly, it is so vulnerable, it's like really

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Speaker 3: truly putting yourself out there. Was that weird to all,

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Speaker 3: Like it's your brother and you're seeing him like fall

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Speaker 3: in love, go on dates, kiss somebody? Like was it

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Speaker 3: weird at all? Or was it just like so cute

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Speaker 3: because he's your little brother, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, my little Yes. Yeah, it was very weird

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Speaker 1: watching him. I think the excitement wore off, like in

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Speaker 1: once we got to the second episode, because I think

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking back now, but on the Bachelorette there was

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Speaker 1: some like kissing date he did where it was the

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Speaker 1: longest kiss or something, and we were like, no, this

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Speaker 1: is not fun anymore. This is getting so uncomfortable. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: that part was a little uncomfy. Feel super excited. I

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Speaker 1: think my biggest concern was just being what people's interpretation

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Speaker 1: of who he is as a human being on the show.

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Speaker 1: Us knowing him and how amazing he is, you just

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Speaker 1: you never know what other people's viewpoints are going to be.

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Speaker 1: So I think it was more so nerves from that

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Speaker 1: standpoint kind of took over everything else because I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to protect him, but I wasn't obviously wasn't there,

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Speaker 1: and it's all been filmed already and you're just reliving it.

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Speaker 1: So it was the whole thing was a little bit

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Speaker 1: nerve wracking.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's so wild.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's crazy because you don't know what they're

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Speaker 3: going to show versus what they're not going to show.

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Speaker 3: So even if you know your brother's character, like, it

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Speaker 3: could get chopped up a thousand different ways and people

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Speaker 3: can perceive it. How ever, But obviously everyone loved Joey.

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Speaker 3: I feel like sometimes I'm like, oh my god, he

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Speaker 3: like saved the franchise and coming back like everyone loved

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Speaker 3: him and like on the Bachelorette, but then when he

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Speaker 3: was the Bachelor, I think the Bachelor is like an

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Speaker 3: impossible job. I don't think that most people come away

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Speaker 3: liked because it's one guy dating a ton.

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Speaker 2: Of girls, Like nobody wants to see that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we do, but like we do what we do home. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So he navigated it so well.

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Speaker 3: It was like so impressive because I feel like, to

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Speaker 3: this day he has like such a good standing with

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Speaker 3: the fan base and people outside of the fan base.

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Speaker 3: Were you guys come, I mean you knew he made

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Speaker 3: it quite far obviously, but were you completely shocked when

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Speaker 3: you realize, like, oh my gosh, Joey's about to be

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Speaker 3: the Bachelor?

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Speaker 1: Was it?

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Speaker 3: Did it like shake your family's household? Was everyone supportive

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Speaker 3: or was there ever a discussion of like is this

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Speaker 3: the best choice?

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Speaker 1: I think we were all supportive. Joey tried to kind

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Speaker 1: of keep it under wraps as much as possible. I

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Speaker 1: think all the conversations he was having because I think

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Speaker 1: the whole process and everything being so unknown until the

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Speaker 1: last minute, I think he was trying to balance getting

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Speaker 1: his hopes up for an exciting opportunity versus this. They

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Speaker 1: only talked to me about it. To bounce things off

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Speaker 1: of and didn't disclose too much to my family. But

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Speaker 1: I think he also didn't want to get their hopes

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Speaker 1: up because I think everyone was just so excited for

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. Yeah, I don't think I truly don't think

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Speaker 1: anyone challenged him to the point where we thought it

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Speaker 1: how much we joke when we saw him at Hometowns

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Speaker 1: for Charity season that he just went to like an

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Speaker 1: the best version of himself when we met him, we

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Speaker 1: were like, this is Joey on steroids, because you're just

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Speaker 1: so removed from being on your phone all the time,

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Speaker 1: coming home, sitting on the couch, like it was just

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Speaker 1: so insightful. I think for him working on himself figuring

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Speaker 1: with a bunch of other guys. But I think, knowing

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Speaker 1: how much he grew from the Bachelorette and this opportunity,

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Speaker 1: I don't think he ever would have been able to

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Speaker 1: turn it down. For the reason being, what if I

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Speaker 1: don't think he could have watched the show back, declined

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Speaker 1: the position and then Dean Kelsey on the TV and

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Speaker 1: would have been like, I could have had the chance

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Speaker 1: think that outweighed everything and we were just really excited

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Speaker 2: That's so cool. That's that's really cool insight.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any behind the scene tea that you

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Speaker 3: can share, whether it was like something that maybe people

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Speaker 3: don't know about your experience, like when you got to

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Speaker 3: go film and because you did hometowns and then obvious

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Speaker 3: well double hometowns essentially, so like behind the scenes tea,

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Speaker 3: or just like what was the most shocking thing that

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Speaker 1: Just having all those cameras in front of you is

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Speaker 1: so shocking the first time that it happens. So for

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Speaker 1: Charity season, we were just it was so nerve wracking

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Speaker 1: crazy situation. I think something that we joke about and

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Speaker 1: he the way they had set it up. Joey came

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Speaker 1: that were there, explained them like who they were, why,

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Speaker 1: then I think we had and I apologize because I

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Speaker 1: feel like I like blackout certain things because it was

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Speaker 1: I don't forget it. But I think we took a

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Speaker 1: before we actually met the first one, and my sister

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Speaker 1: and I went, we like fixed our lip gloss before

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Speaker 1: other and we were like, it's Kelsey, Like we knew

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Speaker 1: before meeting them, just how he talked about her, We're like,

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Speaker 1: he is clearly so in love with her. So I

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Speaker 1: for Daisy, I was trying to see if there was

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Speaker 1: things that he had questions about versus Kelsey. I feel

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Speaker 1: But I feel like my sister and I were very

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Speaker 1: not harder, but I think we're trying to dig a

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Speaker 1: But I always think about that before we even met them,

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Speaker 1: my sister and I looked at each other and we

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Speaker 2: I love that.

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Speaker 3: That's like very special that you guys were able to

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Speaker 3: of mislead the audience. Like that was one thing that

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Speaker 3: It was like you're seeing things unfold and you're like, wait,

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Speaker 3: this isn't how I I mean it is, but it's

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Speaker 3: not how I remember it exactly. But you understand, like

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Speaker 3: So I don't particularly remember exactly the conversations like I

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Speaker 3: don't remember you being hard on Kelsey, but it is

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Speaker 3: interesting that you guys were like, Okay, we really have

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Speaker 3: to get in there and like, yeah, like just make

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Speaker 3: sure that this is all it's all going good. And

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Speaker 3: obviously Joey was a fan favorite, but so were you,

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Speaker 3: Like what were your thoughts when people were like tweeting

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Speaker 3: and going on Instagram talking about you. Obviously we know

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Speaker 3: you've been married for like four years now, correct, Yes,

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Speaker 3: so you're not a possible contender.

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Speaker 2: But some people were like, oh my god, we need

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Speaker 2: to get Joey's sister on the show.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it was. We just laugh about it. My husband

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Speaker 1: and I have been together for thirteen years. We went

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Speaker 1: stn't feel a little bit of impostor syndrome maybe and

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Speaker 1: just confused. I understand why everyone follows along with Joey

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Speaker 1: and Kelsey, but I still just get all these people

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Speaker 1: like why, why, why do you want to do that?

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Speaker 1: And it's and I'm I'm enjoying it. It's fun and

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Speaker 1: it's I mean, I'm having fun with it. It's just

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Speaker 1: I still when I make a video for something, I'm

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Speaker 2: I love that. No, it's because you're fabulous. Like the

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Speaker 2: people loved you. We were like give us more, we

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Speaker 2: want more.

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Speaker 3: And I see like tiktoks of you and Kelsey. Now,

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Speaker 3: obviously you guys have a great relationship, which is so amazing, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's such a big part of like bringing somebody into

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Speaker 3: along with your family. And so I want to hear

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Speaker 3: about your relationship with Kelsey a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am obsessed with Kelsey. I similarly to Joey.

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Speaker 1: I think it was definitely was taken out if I'm

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Speaker 1: a little bit being on a show on reality TV.

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Speaker 1: But the two of us are definitely gravitate to be

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Speaker 3: So that's honestly, like the best advice I think I've

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Speaker 3: That's how my girlfriends are back home as well. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, it's so true.

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Speaker 3: Kit Linbristoll always uses this term shopping for hate, and

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Speaker 3: It's literally a fantasy world that people are living in

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Speaker 3: So that is just like it just speaks to y'all's

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Speaker 2: I wanted to know what have you been up to?

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Speaker 3: Like, Obviously, I see that brands are reaching out to you,

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Speaker 1: I just am still working my full time job obviously,

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Speaker 1: an assisted living facility, so that's what I do by day,

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Speaker 1: and then I have the luxury of working a four

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Speaker 1: day week, so I work for ten hour days, which

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Speaker 1: is amazing, so I can utilize my day off for

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Speaker 1: the weekends or in the evenings I'll do make little

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Speaker 1: videos post them throughout the week. So it's a lot

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Speaker 1: of work. I give these people so much credit who

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Speaker 1: do social media and everything full time. It's like these

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Speaker 1: little videos you make take so long, and then again

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Speaker 1: I overthink what I'm doing, so I'll edit it and

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Speaker 1: change it and do it again. So yeah, I have

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Speaker 1: my job. That's my career that I love, but this

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Speaker 1: has definitely been something fun on the side to be

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Speaker 1: to be doing. But again, just such imposter syndrome doing it.

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Speaker 1: It's just just for fun.

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Speaker 2: I feel like most people in social media probably have

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Speaker 2: that same feeling where it's like, what are like?

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Speaker 1: This is?

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Speaker 2: But it's so fun? So I think why not?

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Speaker 3: But wait, okay, geriatric social worker, how did you get involved?

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Speaker 3: Like how did you find that as your passion in

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Speaker 3: your career?

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Speaker 1: So I went to college for social work, and you

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Speaker 1: can do so many things with social work. You can

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Speaker 1: work with kids, you grow up with homeless people, you

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Speaker 1: can work with people suffer who suffer from domestic abuse,

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Speaker 1: you can work in everything. I was so grow so

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Speaker 1: close to my grandparents growing up. In high school, I

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Speaker 1: volunteered at nursing homes. I just love that generation, that population.

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Speaker 1: So I just knew I wanted to work with elderly people,

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Speaker 1: but I did not want to be a nurse. I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with that from a clinical standpoint. So

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Speaker 1: this was just a different path I could go down

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Speaker 1: to work with that specific population. So that's what drove it.

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Speaker 1: I went to school for social work and then just

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Speaker 1: right out of college, worked in a nursing home and

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Speaker 1: then an assisted living and impatient geriatric rehab. So I

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Speaker 1: just always worked with that population, but I went to

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Speaker 1: school for it.

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Speaker 2: So, oh my gosh, amazing. And also, I know you

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Speaker 2: mentioned your grandmother passing.

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Speaker 3: I'm so sorry, but did I see on your social

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Speaker 3: media that you guys got a tattoo?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Since it?

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Speaker 2: What does it say?

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Speaker 1: I will butcher it. We are Italian, but I didn't

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Speaker 1: speak Italian. My grandma. We have this video of my

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Speaker 1: grand when I was younger that I took her for.

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Speaker 1: She said she wanted the words peace and joy in Chinese,

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Speaker 1: and my cousins and I were all together for her funeral.

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Speaker 1: We're like, we should get this tattoo. But I have

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Speaker 1: no connection to Chinese writing. So I took a bunch

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Speaker 1: of old cards that she had written me and we

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Speaker 1: translated peace and joy in Italian. It's patcha igioia. So

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Speaker 1: we just took cards and took a P and an

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Speaker 1: A and a C, and just my sister traced it

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Speaker 1: on tracing paper in her handwriting. So then all of

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Speaker 1: our cousins we got her tattoo. We just did put

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Speaker 1: a little twist on it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. I think she'd like that even better,

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Like I think she would have gotten it.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so cool. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 3: I am so glad that we got to chat with

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Speaker 3: you today actually before we go, since there's a new

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Speaker 3: season happening right now. With all the boys that may

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Speaker 3: listen to this, who knows, maybe they'll be curious. But

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Speaker 3: what advice would you give someone going on the show

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Speaker 3: that's watching it back right now, Like, what advice would

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Speaker 3: you give them just for like how to navigate this process.

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Speaker 1: The guys that are watching it like watching.

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Speaker 2: Themselves back, maybe the guys in Jen and Jen.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think for everyone just to not to

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Speaker 1: take it too seriously and to remember that you signed

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Speaker 1: up for a show and it's reality TV and they're

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Speaker 1: trying to make good TV at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: So I think just being able to laugh at yourself

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Speaker 1: is super important. I think for Jen, she's doing amazing.

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Speaker 1: I think I saw something that the ratings went up

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Speaker 1: and everything, so I'm excited for her. I think for

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Speaker 1: the guys, specifically the final two, because they think seeing

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Speaker 1: getting to see both perspectives, Joey being I hate to

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Speaker 1: say like runner Up, but the person that did not

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Speaker 1: get engaged versus being able to see how Kelsey navigated

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Speaker 1: being the person that was is now engaged. I think

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Speaker 1: it's harder sometimes, at least in my opinion, for the

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Speaker 1: person that is actually engaged to watch everything back versus

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Speaker 1: the person who is not engaged at the very end

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Speaker 1: is having self reflection and realizing you were just there

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Speaker 1: for such a short amount of time. And hopefully that

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Speaker 1: person has a good family and friend support system to

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Speaker 1: help them work through that. But I think for the

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Speaker 1: person that is engaged, just to again remember they're not

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Speaker 1: showing your whole love story. They have to show other people's.

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Speaker 1: I think that's really difficult because you have to kind

535
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Speaker 1: of watch their whole season. I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: bad idea to not watch every episode or to just

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Speaker 1: watch the parts that that specific person, if Jen is engaged,

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Speaker 1: just the parts that they're in together. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's so hard to navigate, and I think just giving

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Speaker 1: yourself the freedom to laugh some things off, take things

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Speaker 1: so seriously, because it's definitely they want to make a

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Speaker 1: good TV which they do a very very good job of,

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Speaker 1: so I think just taking things not so seriously, if possible,

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Speaker 1: if you your said been done, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: could have ever done it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's tough, but that's really good advice and hopefully

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Speaker 3: they are listening and hopefully they can take that to heart.

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Speaker 2: But I just want to say thank you so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us.

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Speaker 3: I feel like people are going to be so excited

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Speaker 3: to hear straight from you.

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Speaker 2: Everyone loved you, and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for having me