1 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. We 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: want to thank you all for joining the show. Today. 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: We have Mark Wasserman and Craig Washerman, the world famous 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers at Law, and missing in action is Joe Grande. 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: Wish well, Joe shows, I don't know what's wrong with 9 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: you that guy. Oh my gosh, he's always shirking. He's 10 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 1: shirking his duties. He's eating a burrito. Well. 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It's 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:23,559 Speaker 1: easy for you to say Rick. Rick Tough, New Orleans 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: attorney Rick Tough in Jr. Right joins the show to 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: give us input on cannabis in New Orleans. How are 24 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: we doing today, my friend? Fantastic and thank you guys 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: for having me. I truly appreciate the opportunity come on 26 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: and talk with you guys. And I just want to 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: say that Pope Brothers, Mark and Craig, I love you guys. 28 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: You guys are awesome. The really are We appreciate that. 29 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: And Blue you know, before we get started interview, I 30 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: want to do it just a little bit of news. Um, 31 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: this actually broke yesterday when we were on air, and 32 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: I almost brought it up, but I blew you were 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: getting tired of my news, so I moved on but 34 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: long winded. Yeah, this is crazy. So former Representative Patrick Kennedy, 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,399 Speaker 1: co founder of Smart Approaches to Marijuana, which is an 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: anti marijuana cannabis group, has has written an open letter 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:21,919 Speaker 1: to Biden to become the new federal drugs are He 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: wants to be in charge of drug policies. A guy 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: that has voted against and a leading marijuana prohibitionist. I 40 00:02:29,919 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: just think it's crazy how he thinks he's gonna get 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: appointed National Drugs are in this Biden hair and Biden 42 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: Harris team, where Harris is clearly come out for legalisaisian. 43 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: Biden is still old school, a little behind the times. 44 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: He wants more testing, more which the Senate approved, I 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: think it was yesterday or today, a new bill that 46 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: would expend testing rights and make the d A have 47 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: sixty days in which to grant UH the rights for 48 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: more testing and research. Right now, the d A can 49 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: sit on it for years and years and years, so 50 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 1: that that's a little bit of progress, But for for 51 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: this guy. In his letter, he writes dangers of today's 52 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: higher potency consumption options and are rapidly evolving for profit industry, 53 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: and he points out that he agrees with Biden's position 54 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: because Biden doesn't really come out and say we will 55 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: need to decriminalize it. He says we need to get 56 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: more testing, we need more scientific research, and people should 57 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: go to rehab for it as opposed to legalizing the drug. Hopefully, 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: if we can flip the Senate in Georgia and we 59 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: can make absolute progression against prohibition, I think if both 60 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: the House and the Senate both agree on something, Biden's 61 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: gonna be hard pressed not to sign that. And I 62 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 1: believe they may have um So, I don't know if 63 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: they in the Volks overcome a veto, but I think 64 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: that would be a death knell the Biden if he 65 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: actually vetoed a House Senate bill that passed both What 66 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: is his name again, Joseph Kenny. He's actually he's actually 67 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: for he's a former representative. Why don't we why don't 68 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: we shoot to get him on the show. We can 69 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 1: do that. I have Peanut reach out to him. Yeah, 70 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,359 Speaker 1: I mean that that would be an interesting conversation just 71 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: to kind of see, you know, where his blood boils 72 00:04:27,880 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: and what what is hot points are that you know, 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: cannabis isn't essential right now. Cannabis is a you know, 74 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: a medicinal and the say he's still a re for 75 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: madness meant mentality? No, I I know, but I still 76 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind hearing his opinion on and finding out, like, listen, 77 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: you know your re for madness is is? Is it 78 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: is something that you believe in? Why? Because I don't 79 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: know if I want to give that that an idiot 80 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: a platform. I don't want to give him on a platform. 81 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: I disagree. I disagree the a brother. I think everybody 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,880 Speaker 1: needs a platform, everybody. It doesn't matter what side you're on. 83 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: There's always good there's always room for good debate well, 84 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: and hopefully we can hopefully with the with the science 85 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: that we already have and the I mean, I know 86 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: we've always talked about anecdotal evidence, but there's so much 87 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: of that coupled with emerging scientific data from other countries 88 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: that we could dispel all the bs that the prohibitionists 89 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: and the refor madness mentality carries on. Now he guys 90 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: he can come on and take a beating from us, 91 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: then yeah, well I I you know, I just don't 92 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: know how he can come on and say he's the 93 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: right guy for the drugs are. You know. It's just 94 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 1: especially with what we're looking down the barrel of cannabis 95 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: being legal in what forty eight states in one form 96 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: or another, whether it's CBD being legalized in some states 97 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: where that was still a felony. The Senate and the House, 98 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: it the federal government level needs get on the program 99 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: what their states want, not what they want, what their 100 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: states have done, and what their states wants again what 101 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: the people clearly want. We've said it several times. When 102 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: a hundred and seventy nine million votes for all the 103 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: cannabis UH initiatives that were out there, more than both 104 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: the presidents combined. Yeah, I mean there was not not 105 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: only at the federal level, did what four out of five, 106 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: it's like thirteen more states go either recreational or medical. 107 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: At the state level, I think here in California, it 108 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: was over seventy UH issues on the ballot for tax 109 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,440 Speaker 1: taxing cannabis. Because in each city they have to vote 110 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: on the tax before they implement UH any kind of taxation. 111 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: So gory I think eighty passed. That way, the city 112 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: councils can go back and they can put together an 113 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: ordinance and then refer to the tax UH initiatives that 114 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: passed on the city ballot. So the way that's coming, 115 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: the dominoes are fallen and Craig Wasserman big brother Pop 116 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: Brothers at Law and that was you cannabis quick news. Yeah. 117 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: So speaking of some news, we've got Rick Taffin to Rick, 118 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: Rick Toffin, just call him Rick, Just call him Rick. 119 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: That's it, Big Rick Toffin, Right, what's going on, buddy. 120 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: Uh So, let's let us know what's going on in 121 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: New Orleans. I mean, I'm sorry, you know, is there 122 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: is there? You guys have well tell us where where 123 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: you're at in for cannabis right now? How about that? Okay? 124 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: So in New Orleans. New Orleans is an anomaly and 125 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: we had you know, we are the party town. We 126 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, the rules here are different and and of 127 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: itself very tightly wound republican place, you know. So you 128 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: go just north to Covington, go out to Baton Rouge 129 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: and and they're they're very taking it. They're very timely wound. 130 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Very no. No, we'll have none of that kind of 131 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, kind of mentality. And it's New Orleans like well, 132 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: we have plenty of that and some more. That's just 133 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 1: how it is, how we are here. It's you know, 134 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: you can get sweet tea anywhere around us, but you 135 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: can't get sweet tea here. Guess that's the best, that's 136 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: the best way to describe us. And it just you know, 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: what you were saying earlier about him wanting to be 138 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: the czar. Perhaps he thinks being the marijuana's are means 139 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: that he protects the rest of the country from marijuana marijuana. 140 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: That may be his take on what is Zar does 141 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: not that you're supposed to be fair and fair minded 142 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: and take us fair look at everything, but that you 143 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: say no, because that's what you've always said. So in Louisiana, 144 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: what's the state of cannabis? What's the laws going on 145 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: right now in Louisiana? All right? So right now, there 146 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 1: there are let's see in a second, there are dispensaries 147 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: where you can get it medically. There are doctors who 148 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: can if they will, they were reluctant to describe it medically. 149 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: We just had some legislation passed that give some banking 150 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 1: cover for dispensaries and doctors that you know, although still 151 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: federally there are issues with you know, if you identify 152 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: someone who legally makes their money involving in marijuana, that 153 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: still banking can give them problems of Louisiana has passed 154 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: laws to ease up on that. So that has helped 155 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: quite a bit, and I think we're still there's still legislation. Well, 156 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: of course, there's a there's been a suggestion that we 157 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: need another fact finding committee to look at this, and 158 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:42,440 Speaker 1: that's you know, legislatively everywhere. That's the most insulting thing 159 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: because there's just another way to drop anchor and drag 160 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: your feet instead of actually legislating and doing your job. 161 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: What's the criminal liability like over there for for cannabis? Okay, 162 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: so um, the law has just changed. So um. For 163 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: a first time offense, it goes by weight first time 164 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 1: offense to fourteen grand. It's like fifteen days max. And 165 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: then you get jail time. Um, there are mandatory minimums, 166 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 1: but it's like one to one to five years. What's 167 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: you don't do the one the ones? It's probatable. So 168 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 1: although it's a mandatory minimum, it's not without benefits. And 169 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: the courts have eased up on the sentencing guidelines for 170 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, because the legislators allowed them to. So they're 171 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,479 Speaker 1: working a little bit better with people from with marijuana. 172 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: The problem I see is that so you know, Marker Craig, 173 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: you're down here from Maudi Gras and you're smoking, and 174 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: you have a joined or two on you, and you 175 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: have your gun in your car. Well, because you're traveling 176 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: you want to protect yourself. Well, that becomes not only 177 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: just a drug charge, but then that missed me in 178 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: a drug charge withality firearm with narcotics in the general 179 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: spirit of that law traditionally is to if I'm using 180 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: my weapon to protect my supply and protect my money, 181 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, the interactions that I'm doing with other people 182 00:11:10,960 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: selling my drugs, well, then that's what that's supposed to 183 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: be for. Not if you have your own firearm, and 184 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: so they're the d as are using that. So you 185 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: have sa marijuana or even a small single use quality 186 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: of other narcotics, they're using that gun charge. And what 187 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: happens is that you can get it to go away, 188 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: but you gotta agree to a plead to the underlying charge. 189 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, it's it's a for lack 190 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: of a better phrase, it's a boot on the neck. 191 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: Now you do this because it's a mandatory minimum of 192 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: five years for a gun with drugs. That then you 193 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: have to do that. So you end up doing it's 194 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,199 Speaker 1: not violent first time. A freder will do about it 195 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: a year and a half, but still it's a year 196 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 1: and a half out of your life. Now it looks 197 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: like you've been dealing with drugs and cannabis even before 198 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: you became an attorney working in the drug court. System 199 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: in Orleans. What that like? Oh yeah, that was so 200 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I started working, Um, when I went to law school, 201 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: I started working for the drug Court system on the 202 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: judge Calvin Johnson. Awesome, man. The reason I went to 203 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: law school quality person. And that's how I cut my 204 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 1: bones over there in that building is being able to 205 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: get people into rehab and I and I have my 206 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: own views of marijuana that may differ from some other 207 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: people who do treatment work. And marijuana is no more 208 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,319 Speaker 1: of a gateway than alcohol, and they both they both 209 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: have their own issues. You know, you're not gonna get 210 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: psoriasis a deliver from smoking weed, you know. But man, 211 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: but alcohol is not fat solide, really doesn't stay in 212 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 1: your system is long. But you're not going to get 213 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: a hangover from smoking weed. And people say, well, would 214 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: you want a surgeon operating you smoked weed all the time? 215 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: Well maybe not. But I don't want an alcoholic operating 216 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: on me either. The big, the big difference in unless 217 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: that doctor smoking that joint really calms his nerve, that's it. 218 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, no, that that's' but it just and 219 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: then you start and I think the problem is when 220 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: people have where people are having I found the marijuana 221 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: discussion a legalization discussion. They confuse use with abuse. So 222 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: you can have the same conversation about alcohol. Okay, alcohol 223 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: should be legal. It is legal. You have to be 224 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: eighteen twenty one depending on where you are, and that's fine. 225 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: But we're talking about use, not abuse. Correct if you're 226 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna have the same conversation, find do apples and apples 227 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: talk about marijuana use not abuse? And abuse of marijuana 228 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: is it can happen like any other product anything, And 229 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: so that's and I think that's part of the conversation 230 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: that needs to be corrected because people who want to 231 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: have the oh this is bad, this is that will 232 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: abuse if anything that's bad, you know, simple use, let's 233 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: have that conversation. And I think that's the problem. That's right, 234 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna have that conversation because they're if there is 235 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: abuse of smoking pot cannabis. I mean, I always getting 236 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: to people while I'm sitting at a bar and they're 237 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: drinking and I hear some anti cannabis should come up, 238 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: and I say, who who would you rather have? You 239 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: drive some you know home? But the guy who had 240 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: five joints or ten shots at tequila and then We're 241 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: gonna let Big Brother finish that. Right after this break, 242 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: we'll be back with Richard rick Toppin, super attorney out 243 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: of Louisiana. Right up in this break, welcome back to 244 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. We have a fantastic show 245 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: for you today. We have another attorney on the air 246 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: with us. How do you feel blue you're surrounded by attorney? Well, 247 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: that's nothing new for you. You know what. I don't 248 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: like surrounding yourself with it, You don't. I found that 249 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: some of them are my best friends, are sitting next 250 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: to me, and I just can't you know, I'm okay 251 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 1: with it. And there there, there you have it. We're 252 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: here with Rick Rick Toppin, right out of Louisiana. We 253 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: were talking about youth and abuse and all that great 254 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: stuff with cannabis that's still unfortunately illegal all over the place. 255 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: And we were getting into your background working in the 256 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: drug court before you became an attorney. And I noticed 257 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: here that they were just starting it looked like this, 258 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: they were just starting the cannabis diversion programmer. And we'll 259 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: talk about that and Jefferson Parish. It's twenty four Judicial 260 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 1: District Court down here. Um, they were just starting a 261 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: marijuana diversion program, so I left drug courts to go 262 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: there to help them start their program. And it's a 263 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: program for They have the version program for a wide 264 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: variety of charges drug related, non drug related, non first time, 265 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: non violent defenders, but the marijuana di version program. I 266 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: really enjoyed that because that true really gave people an opportunity, 267 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, to not have a criminal conviction on their record, 268 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: just for simple possession of marijuana. So I really enjoyed that. 269 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the drug court program was good because if 270 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: you're if your sole crime it's possession of a narcotic 271 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: of which you are addicted, you're not robbing from anybody, 272 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: You're not stealing from anybody, you're not hurting anybody. You're 273 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: hurting yourself because of your own affliction being addicted to 274 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: the substance, and your only crime is you have it. 275 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: You have it on you. That's it, and that's I mean, 276 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: it's just the drug courts trying to find a better 277 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: way to help those people and get them out from 278 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: under and help them with their criminal charges. And I 279 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: agree with that. The problem is that judges aren't obligated 280 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: to do that they're obligated just uphold the law. The 281 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: law says it's illegal, and you did this service, I'm 282 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: sending you the jail for X. The second time, I'm 283 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: sending you to jail for X plus two, then X 284 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: plus three, and there's no real And I've become fairly 285 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: proficient at explaining to judges and getting them to come 286 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: on board. The judge, if you put this man in 287 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: jail and addict, our alcoholics gonna come out of jail, 288 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: why don't we do something that's meaningful. Why don't we 289 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: do something that's gonna help him m that helps him 290 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: to not be an addict or alcoholic, helps him to 291 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,160 Speaker 1: get better. And I enjoyed my time in those programs 292 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: because they did that. The marijuana diversion program just was 293 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: nice because it got to help people just not to 294 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: have a conviction just for possession because that's in marijuana. 295 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 1: What did they have to do, I'm curious, Yeah, what 296 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 1: did they have to do if they, you know, had 297 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: a half an ounce or eighth or what? What? What 298 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: do they have to go through? So for us, it 299 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: was misdemeanor, And back then, misdemeanor was the first time 300 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: offense under I think under him. I can't remember the amount. 301 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: It was, maybe under a couple of pounds, and when 302 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: you get to a certain amount then it becomes a 303 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: weight case and then that's a different set of rules. 304 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: But in general, you had to you had to drug test, 305 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: so he took a hair task. He had to randomly 306 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: your in tests. You had to be cleaned, he had 307 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: to stop that, You had to stop using the cannabis person. Basically, yes, 308 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: to go through the program, you had to be clean. 309 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 1: It was about a six month program. You went to 310 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 1: some classes, some counseling classes, and you succeeded. You showed up, 311 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: paid attention and tested negative. In six months, you got 312 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: a certificate. You were done, and more importantly, your charges 313 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,560 Speaker 1: were refused or dismissed by the d a's off which 314 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:38,679 Speaker 1: is the product. Yeah, you know what's it's a shame 315 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 1: though that I completely agree with you percent. If someone 316 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: has an addiction problem, whether it's weed, whether it's coke, 317 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,280 Speaker 1: whether it's math, whether it's whatever they've you know it 318 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 1: shouldn't that should not be criminalized. But the problem is 319 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: with most other drugs is that you know they're highly addictive, 320 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: as far as and and UH and can be very 321 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: harmful when you have a joint in a state like yours, 322 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: or you have a half an ounce, and that's why 323 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: you're going to do these programs. It's great that you 324 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,959 Speaker 1: can get them dismissed, don't get me wrong. And if 325 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: they have to stop smoking for six months, even though 326 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: they're not addicts, they're they're productive human being with good jobs, 327 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: and they just happen to get caught with their eighth 328 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: or with their half ounds. They have to go through 329 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: this program, which I think is great because there's an avenue, 330 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: like you said, to get it completely dismissed. But too 331 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: But what the courts can't see is just having an 332 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: eighth or an ounce doesn't make you an addict. I mean, 333 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: that's really like you were saying. I think it's versus abuse, 334 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: and it's just sad that there's still places like that 335 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: where you have to go through this program and potentially 336 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: not take your medicine for six months. That's keeping someone, 337 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: even keel, it's keeping someone. It's it's my brother and 338 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: I smoke. You know, we can smoke all day long. 339 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: You know, we we have high like like yourself. This 340 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: this business that we chose is very highly stressful, very 341 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:05,919 Speaker 1: type a high octane. And uh, you know it's okay 342 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: for attorneys to go have a three martini lunch, but 343 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: god forbid, we want to smoke a joint at lunch. 344 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: You know, that's frowned upon. I think that's just gotta end. 345 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: That's my little soapbox. No, but why I agree with that. 346 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,959 Speaker 1: And here at least they're opening up. They've opened up 347 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: and added to the list of ailments that you can 348 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: be prescribed medical marijuana for. They've opened that up and 349 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: added and they're always trying to add. The legislator was 350 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 1: always trying to add more ailments to that list, which 351 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: I think is a positive thing. And they're they're trying 352 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: to make it easy for legal dispensaries and merriical marijuana 353 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: to function. You know, as far as recreational legality, that's 354 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: still a ways down the road. But at least it's 355 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: a start. It's it's some kind of start. Everything has 356 00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: to begin with a single step. I mean, with so 357 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: many people, Like if you think about New Orleans and 358 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: and you know, I've been out there, it is it's 359 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: a it's a party freaking town. We literally go there 360 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: to party. People are smoking cannabis walking down the street, 361 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, And and they're not enforcing it as they are. Well, 362 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: well are there they We only have that snapshot in 363 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: time seeing people do whatever. But what I mean are 364 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: people do the just law enforcement down in New Orleans? Um? 365 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: You know, uh, French Quarter Bourbon Street, which I only 366 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: needed to go down, up and down one time myself. Um, 367 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: how do they treat cannabi's down there? What they can 368 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: do now is before was an arrestable offense. Now it's 369 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: up to the cop. He can write you a summons, 370 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: so it's like a traffic ticket, and so he summons you, 371 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: you go to court and you deal with it instead 372 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: of being arrested, having to be booked bonded out, which 373 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: is an arduous process as well, you know, correct. And 374 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: the problem with something you said earlier, and as both 375 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: of you guys know, part of the problem is that 376 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: for me, I can tell the client. I may agree 377 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: with you that it shouldn't be it shouldn't be illegal. 378 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and and it sucks. However, here 379 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: we are and I'm stuck with the law that I 380 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: have to guide you through. And so we can go 381 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: to trial, and I can tell the car, I can 382 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: tell the jury. Hey, look jury nullification. Look, it's it's ridiculous. 383 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: My guy shouldn't be held account and you know, held 384 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,160 Speaker 1: to task for this. It's we it's naturally grows, it's cultivated, 385 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,159 Speaker 1: it's not hurting anybody. He's smoking it. He was on 386 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: his front porch when the cops drove of. He's not mine. 387 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: But do they turn their heads down in on Bourbon Street? 388 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any kind of feel for 389 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: that of It depends on the cops. It really depends 390 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: on the copsy. Oh yet it happens, depends on how 391 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: slow united is, what kind of moved there in and 392 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,240 Speaker 1: you gung hoo. Guys are trying to get every collar 393 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 1: they can, you know, And the problem is that so 394 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: they come up upon somebody and they smell weeds, so 395 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: there as you you rather blew me several other people 396 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: because they can smell it around us, and then they 397 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: let someone sort it out later, which sucks because that's 398 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: not the way it's supposed to happen. And they're not 399 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: held Okay, So my issue, my soapboxes. They need to 400 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: be held accountable for that behavior. They need to be 401 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 1: held accountable. You know what so someone's breaking the law 402 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: of fine, figure out who it is and arrest that person. 403 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,919 Speaker 1: If you think they're arrestable, then do that. Don't just 404 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: throw a blanket. Arrest anybody you can and let it 405 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: get sorted out later. That sucks. That ruins a whole 406 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 1: bunch of people's eyes. Definitely, absolute, Absolutely, So you're you're 407 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: a large part of your practice here is criminal defense, 408 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 1: and we're talking a lot about cannabis, uh crimes and stuff. 409 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,680 Speaker 1: But you you I'm assuming handle all sorts of criminal defense. Correct. Yes, 410 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: I do criminal defense, all type of narcotic narcotic possessions, trafficking, 411 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: state and federal. UM. I have a couple of cases 412 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: now and in the Eastern District federal court possession of 413 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: large quantities of narcotics. I have UM the murder and 414 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 1: attempted murder and Jefferson Parish, one in Arleans Parish of 415 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: violent crimes out at home another parish, and I have 416 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 1: a wide range of If it's criminal, I do it 417 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: it's and I practiced throughout the state going up to Roston. 418 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: So you're fine, acause I was gonna say so being 419 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: in criminal defense, I'm sure you appreciate our shut the 420 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: fuck up script and the whole nine yards and that's 421 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: how and that's how I found you guys. I just 422 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: I saw I saw that on TikTok and I'm like, oh, 423 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: these guys are my heroes because that noe. But that 424 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: script works no matter where you are because I've told 425 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: my clients after years, don't say anything. Don't say anything, 426 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: so you have the right tremain sound, but God not 427 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 1: the funking ability, right, you know, you need to be quiet, 428 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: just beat quiet. Did you make a statement? No, excellent? 429 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I told them this. I told them that there's a 430 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: word for that, moron. It's a statement don't talk. But 431 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: it's just Yeah, that's how I found y'all. And thank 432 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: God from writing me on because that's that's gonna work. 433 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: And and I'm gonna advance that the script because if 434 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: you don't mind, and any any video that I do, 435 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,959 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, my good friends from California, the Pope Brothers. 436 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure I say that out loud, not 437 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: just a tag on the on the screen, because it's awesome. 438 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: You guys deserve credit for that because that's the only 439 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: thing though you have to tell us. You have to say, 440 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: Pop Brothers at Law because there's lots of brothers who 441 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: just smoke pot. So we have to cop the law 442 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: dot com. You need to get thinks it. We need 443 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,120 Speaker 1: to And with that, you know what, We're gonna come back. 444 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,600 Speaker 1: And when we come back, you're gonna get to hear 445 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: the high five with Richard. But that will be right back. 446 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. Marcol Craig, 447 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 1: Pop Brothers at Lawood Blue and Joe Grande here. We 448 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: want to give special thanks to Pitt, Peanut, Jen and 449 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,800 Speaker 1: Elvis making it all come together. And now, guys, my 450 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: favorite part of the show, the Cannabis Talk one on 451 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: one High five with Richard Rick Tim from Louisiana. We 452 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: got five questions for your Rick. We want you to 453 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: be honest. It now is not the time to st 454 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: f you, all right, wouldn't do it to you? Question 455 00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: number one of the Cannabis Talk one on one High 456 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: five How old were you the first time you smoked 457 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: cannabis and where did you get it from? I was 458 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: thirteen on my way um to high school with a 459 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 1: friend of mine across the street who was a senior, 460 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: and he blazed up on the way, and I'm like, okay, 461 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: I'm in nice and easy. Did you get high? Oh yeah, 462 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: I enjoyed classes that day. That's great? How can it? Can? 463 00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: It affects people differently and some people that effects where Hey, 464 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: you had a good class, you learned, you listen, you 465 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: were cool. Um gotta love it. Question number two, what 466 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: is your favorite way to use cannabis? Um? Well, I 467 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: say you must know that I don't. I don't smoke anymore. 468 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: I don't drink. I break out and really bad things. 469 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Did I smoke and drink? So? But I just used 470 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: to you. Just a nice fat joint was my favorite 471 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 1: way to smoke, A nice tightly road fatty. And I 472 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: gotta add real quick though. And that's another thing with 473 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: with cannabis that I've heard over and over and I've 474 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: always said this, but I don't know it for a fact, 475 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 1: but I hear so many people like yourself. If you 476 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: can't do it, you don't do it. It's not like 477 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: a drug that you have to wean off of or 478 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: or whatnot. Is it's easy not to do if it's 479 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: not for you. And I think that's great. So, little brother, 480 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: what's the next question Number three of the high five, 481 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: craziest place you've ever used or smoked cannabis? So I 482 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: don't know if it's the craziest place. What we would 483 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: do is on the weekends we blaze up and then 484 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: go out to the Planetarium for the Pink Floyd Light 485 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: show that have that have a laser light slow laser 486 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: light show to Pink Floyd um Dark Side of the Moon, 487 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: the whole album, and it was just awesome. It was 488 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: just incredible. That sounds good. All right, We are here 489 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: with the Cannabis Talk one on one High five with 490 00:28:56,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: Richard Rick Toffin Jr. A Turney out of the Emasianna. 491 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Question number four, what is your go to munchies when 492 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: you get high? Dorito's questions? That's a commercial, right there, Toritos. 493 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: We should have had a bag and a drink and 494 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: a skateboard. Question go ahead, brother. Question number five, if 495 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 1: you could smoke with anyone dead or alive, who would 496 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 1: it be? You know, before today it would have probably 497 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: been Cheach and Chong because I'm from I'm fifty six, 498 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm from the Cheech and Chong era. But now I 499 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: would amend that to say Craig and Mark was yeah, 500 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: we can arrange that one of those you might have 501 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: to come out of candidates retirement. Yes, I am based 502 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: out of New Orleans, and New Orleans is the hub. 503 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: And then close to New Orleans, the metropolitan area is 504 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: Jefferson Parish, and then bat Rooge is a little further 505 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: off St. Banard Parish, Blackham in Parish. We have parishes, 506 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: not counties, and then across the lake is on St. Tammany, Washington, 507 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: and then you get a little further out. But that 508 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: that's basically operate. You're literally like your offices in New 509 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: Orleans is in New Orleans on Canal Street, block away 510 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: from Mandin is some of the best food of every 511 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 1: I must have walked by it. I know I walked 512 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,640 Speaker 1: by it. I had We stayed that. We stayed that 513 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: the Harris and then walked down to the Canal Street. 514 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: We must have walked by your place, your head to it. 515 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: I felt, I felt the rift in the fabric. Might 516 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: you might have smelled it. I'm out. We're at the 517 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: Hilton Hotel. I think it's I don't know, the garden, 518 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: Hilton Garden and I smoke, couldn't smoke in the room, 519 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: and it was pretty early in the morning. And I 520 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: walk out the hotel and I must have walked like 521 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: three or four of your blocks and I stood on 522 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: a corner right off the side, and I smoked it 523 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: half a joint. As I come on back, I looked down. 524 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: My wife is looking at like six five six blocks 525 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: away looking out the uh the entrance to the hotel, 526 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: thinking I was standing right there because it just went 527 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: right down the street into the lobby. And uh, I 528 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: was fortunate nothing happened. I was very careful. I didn't 529 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 1: really do it too much there, but I did it, 530 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: and uh, I would have paid the price. But I mean, 531 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: there were people smoking up and down the street. I 532 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: don't know if the cops were looking the other way. 533 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: There weren't a lot of cops at that time. Um, 534 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,719 Speaker 1: but but yeah, probably smelt it from me. Fun times, 535 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: fun times. So so listen, Rich before we get out 536 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,360 Speaker 1: of here. You know, is there anything else that you 537 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: wanna tell our listeners or just you know, tell people 538 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: out there about yourself? Uh, you know before we two? Now, No, 539 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: I just I really enjoy what I do, and I 540 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: enjoy being able to help people and protect people, because 541 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you're gonna do stuff 542 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: that's stupid. It's gonna get you in trouble. But the 543 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: problem is that the cops aren't happy with that. They're 544 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: not just happy that you do something. And you know, 545 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: like you said that, we need law enforcement reform because 546 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: they don't treat people fair. And try to make sure 547 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: that go in and the judge is gonna treat my 548 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: client's fair, and the police are gonna get in the 549 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: stand and you know what, you're not gonna lie because 550 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna catch you and I'm gonna make sure everybody 551 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: knows and I and I believe in the script. I 552 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: believe I am a convert. I believe in the script 553 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: because the way you all laid it out, that's the 554 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: way it needs to be. You know, I'm not discussing 555 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: my day. Am I free to go? All right, I'm 556 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: invoking the fifth and I'm shutting the funk up, and 557 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna send you some of our stf you stuff. 558 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: How can people get ahold of you? Okay? Well, they 559 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: can contact me at um Rick at R j R 560 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: Law Firm dot com. They can contact me my office 561 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: five O four eight nine nine seven nine four nine, 562 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: and I give out my personal cell because I'm a 563 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: moving target five O four to one four six three 564 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: three two better get Rick. He'll help you out there. 565 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 1: It's Cannabis Talk one on one. We want to thank 566 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: you Rick for being on the show. Thank you guys, 567 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: and for all of me and for all of you 568 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: listening out there. Remember this if no one else loves you. 569 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one on one 570 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast or wherever 571 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts.