1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,280 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: and fourteen and today the show. We're back for another 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: rut Fresh Radio episode in which we're getting the latest 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: intel from across the country on the White Tail Rut, 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: how deer activities changing in the tactics that are working 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: right now? All right, welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: brought to you by on X. It is rut Fresh 11 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: Radio here for you this week in which we're giving 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: you our weekly update from myself and from Spencer new 13 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Hearth and from a series of hunters all across the 14 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: count tree on what's happening in the woods. What's the 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: progress of the rut, Howard dear acting, what contactics are 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 1: working right now? That's we're gonna do. And it is November. 17 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: No more exciting time to be in the woods. There's 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 1: no more exciting time to listen to rout Fresh Radio 19 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned. Um, And we've got all 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: sorts of good stuff today, don't win, ma'am? Yeah? Um? 21 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: This is the time of year where you could just 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: about not listen to podcast. I hope that you do, 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 1: because I think you're still gonna get good info. But 24 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: kind of everything goes out the window when it is 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: these first you know, like fifteen days of November. The 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: weather doesn't really matter, the moon doesn't really matter. Um, 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that matters is that you're in the 28 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: woods and that it's early November, because the rut is 29 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: going to be happening. As as some might say the 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: rut is fresh, it's a good run. I haven't been 31 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: sleeping very much late least, so my my wit and 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: my humor is probably off off right now. That's okay. 33 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: I think we were due to fit that in somewhere. 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: It hadn't happened. But yeah, man, so we've got rut 35 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: reports from four different people today, but you've got a 36 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: rut report yourself, right. Yeah. I came back to South 37 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: Dakota for a week of hunting, and I actually tagged 38 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: out on my third day. The deer movement was great 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: while I was here. If you were to break like 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: the rut down into the phases as we like to do, 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: it's not always, you know, as cute and in these 42 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: boxes as we think. But if you wanted to do that, um, 43 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: I would say, right now we're in like the chasing phase, 44 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: which is a really exciting time to be in the 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: woods because different than seeking that the deer aren't out 46 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: just like looking for doughs. They are harassing the doughs, 47 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: and that can move them all over a property and 48 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: so and it can move them all over property like 49 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: at any time of day two, I think we might 50 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: still be a few days away from like those big 51 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: mature bucks showing themselves at midday and and harassing doves. 52 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: But right now there's a ton of one and a half, 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: two and a half, three year and a half year 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: old bucks that are out harassing these doves. And it's 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: a really fun time to be in the woods. And 56 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: that's what was going on when I was out there 57 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: on November four. It's only about twenty minutes into shooting light. 58 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: I was hunting some doll betting. The devis had showed 59 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: up and they got nervous because this buck was around, 60 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: and he chased them off, and after they were gone, 61 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: I grunted him in and shot him at twelve yards 62 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: and and that was my South Dakota archer season is this, Uh, 63 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: did you have any trail cameras running on these properties? 64 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: Are you going completely blind this year? Nothing? I was 65 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: going to completely blind, um, which is sort of new. 66 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: I usually am running at least a dozen trail cameras 67 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: and actively scouting these properties, but with the move to Montana, 68 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: I decided I was just going to do everything blind 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: this year. UM. And I really regretted it when I 70 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: got back. I'd love to have that intel. But it 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: was also exciting just being out there and seeing all 72 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: these dear sort of for the first time. Yeah, did 73 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: you see any other nice bucks? Um? I I saw 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: maybe one and one other buck that would have been 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: a mature buck that I would have shot. But for 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the most part, the action that I was seeing was 77 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: those one and a half two and a half three 78 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: and a half year old deer really outter asking those doughs. 79 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: But I think if I was in a tree right 80 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: now for these next couple of days, you would start 81 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 1: to see some of those more mature deer showing up 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: and probably dear that even if you did run trail cameras, 83 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: you may be weren't even familiar with because they're making 84 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: these longer extended walk abouts looking for dose. Yeah, tause 85 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: the season. Um, okay, well that is awesome. Congrats on 86 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: the buck um beautiful, dear, dude, beautiful in South Dakota, Dear, 87 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: I feel like this prairie deer I'll have that somewhat 88 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: unique coloration. I don't know if you've ever noticed that, 89 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: because that's where you grew up, but they just had this. 90 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: They blend in really well with that grass out there. 91 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: It seems like they're just a little bit lighter. Um, 92 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: and I think that's a pretty deer. Yeah, it's It's 93 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: a funny area to hunt, and I will certainly be 94 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: coming back every year no matter where I live. So 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: I've been at it in Michigan too. I can give 96 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: you an update. Um. The rut really start to pick 97 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: up around here on Halloween night. Halloween night is when 98 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: I saw my first real running activity. Um. I went 99 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: out there and it was actually nasty conditions. It was 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: twenty wind rain and then eventually snow, and in my head, 101 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: I was like, should I take the night off and 102 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: get some family time in or get some work done 103 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: because it's just so gnarly out there. Everything's probably gonna 104 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: bedded down, but I just was like, man, it's Halloween night. 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: I haven't missed a Halloween sitting forever. You gotta just 106 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: be out there. You never know what could happen. So 107 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: I went out sat a box blind. Actually just figure 108 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: I'll go somewhere where it's not gonna be a horrible 109 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: impact if the wind is crazy, but at least I 110 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: can see something, and ended up seeing a ton of 111 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,479 Speaker 1: deer bucks were all over the place, and I saw 112 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: my target buck for the first time hunting, I saw Tran. 113 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: So Tran was back in the bedding area and the 114 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 1: neighbors like see him. He started running around and then 115 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: he actually ran all the way right to the edge 116 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: of the property I can hunt, and then spun right 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: the last minute, probably at sixty yards, and then a 118 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: dough it popped out and he spun and chased her 119 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: up and then ran way off from the distance. But 120 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: it's cool to have that first encounter. That was exciting. 121 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: And then the next day was November one, so I've 122 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: starting my all day sits um sat that day and 123 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: in the morning, I'm hunting down wind of the dough 124 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: betting are just like you were, And I have a 125 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: couple of young bucks come cruising through, and then I 126 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: spot a big set of legs off in the distance, 127 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: pull up my by nose, and right away I can 128 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: tell that's a that's a good buck. And then all 129 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: of a sudden realized, oh, that's that's this buck I've 130 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: been calling RB my buddy was a good man. That 131 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: bucks risky business because we didn't know if he was 132 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: three or four, so I was referring to his r B. 133 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: That's him, give mcgruant. And then he just turns and 134 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: starts walking right at me, and then stops, rips up 135 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: a tree and then comes right in. Now, this buck, 136 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: I can't remember. Have we talked about this buck? You 137 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: and you and I yet? Okay, So this is a 138 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: deer I saw all summer when I was out glass 139 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: and being fields in the properties. Really nice, dear. Um, 140 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: I kind of assumed that he was three. He's maybe 141 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: one thirties type ten point buck, which is a really 142 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: good buck for around here. Um. You know, I've only 143 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: had a handful of bucks like that on this farm ever. Um, 144 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: last year with that buck frank At killed, he was 145 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: an anomaly. We never have deer like that usually, you know, 146 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: class three year olds or the best we've gotten the farm. Well, 147 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: this year I had a hundred thirty class three year 148 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: old nine pointer and then a hundred and thirty somethings 149 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: ten pointer. This deer that I was thinking was three 150 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 1: as well. But I started looking at trail camera pictures 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: of him throughout the fall and I'm like, dang, maybe 152 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: he's older. Looking at the body, I was like, gosh, 153 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: some of these pictures, he looks like he's got a 154 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: tank of a body. So I just kept on going 155 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: back and forth, back and forth. I've been, you know, 156 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: thinking about trans so much. This this four year old 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: eight pointer that I passed last year that I really 158 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: thought this year was gonna be all about trains. So 159 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: I've been so focused and trying to dial in what 160 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: he's doing and trying to get in there after him, 161 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: and so I kind of get hung up on that 162 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,199 Speaker 1: single buck thing, as you know. Um. But then i 163 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 1: started looking at pictures of this dear RB and I'm thinking, man, 164 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: if he's four, you know, four year old buck in Michigan, 165 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: that's something you can't pass on. Um. So I just 166 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: kept on going back and forth, back and forth, back 167 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: and forth. In my head every time I go out 168 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: to the tree, I look at a picture of him 169 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: and be like, what would I do if he showed up? 170 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: And then I kind of left it at I would 171 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: be a game time decision. If he shows up and 172 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 1: he just looks like an absolute tank and you get 173 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: pumped up, let it out a rip um. If not, don't. Well, 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: November one, here he comes and he comes in on string, 175 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: comes right in and steps into my shooting lane. I 176 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: draw back. He's at twenty yards and I'm still I 177 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: still like, I don't know, and so I didn't shoot. 178 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 1: I just couldn't bring myself to shoot in that moment 179 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: um because if I shoot that buck, then I'm not 180 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna hunt tryin the rest of the year because I 181 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: had to save a tag for the back forty, So 182 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: it would have been the end of my hunting on 183 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: on this property that I like to spend a lot 184 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,079 Speaker 1: of time on. And what was the date of that again, 185 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: the morning of November one, and he was just out 186 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: cruising and he came in right to that ground call 187 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: passed on him, and then as he walked away, I 188 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: got I got more time to look at him because 189 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: when he came in, he came in fast. He came 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: in through the brush. I knew it was him, but 191 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: I couldn't really look at him well. But as he 192 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: walked away, I could see him and I'm like, oh boy, 193 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: he looks really nice. I mean, he's a nice buck. Um, 194 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: one of the top you dear, probably as far as 195 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: antlers and body you know, that I've had on this 196 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: farm over the years. Um. But I passed on and 197 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: then at that point it's like, well, you're crazy, but 198 00:10:12,640 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: you sure as hell better get a shot train after 199 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: doing that. So one of the rest of the day 200 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: saw some more cruising, lots of like two year olds 201 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:23,319 Speaker 1: up on their feet cruising around. UM year and a 202 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 1: half old as well, and I saw a decent three 203 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: year old that night. Again, I'll do the same thing 204 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: checking out doe betting ears. Um. The next morning, I 205 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: go back into the same general zone, but just bumped 206 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: one doe betting air over. There's kind of a series 207 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: of three doe betting areas on one side of this property. Uh, 208 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: one of them is on the neighbors, two of them 209 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: are on mine. And I can get kind of along 210 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 1: this line and then you'll get these bucks that go 211 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: from betting air to betting aar to betting air and 212 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: just follow the edge of it. And I'm on that edge. 213 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: Uh well, first light, I hear crashing around behind me, 214 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: and I turned around and I just see a profile 215 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: of a rack passing through the brush and I'm like bam, 216 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,199 Speaker 1: like instantly could tell that was Tran And he was 217 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: right there. I don't know, thirty yards probably, but this 218 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 1: is before shooting light. This is as it's just light 219 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: enough that you can see stuff. But like I could, 220 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: I would never be able to get a shot. And 221 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: it was still too early. I saw him pass through. 222 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: He was in there, and you could just hear crunching 223 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: around and things snapping something, and maybe he's in there 224 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: with a dill the way it sounded like it was he. 225 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: He was in there for a long period time, but 226 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: he never popped out again. I couldn't see him, couldn't 227 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: coax him out, nothing. So then I wait, I wait, 228 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: I wait, I watch, And then a little two year 229 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: old eight pointer comes running out, And then I started 230 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: second guessing myself. Was this the buck that was into 231 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: the whole time? Did I somehow in my head just 232 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: get over excited and think it was Tran and instead 233 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: it was just this this two year old eight he 234 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: puts out and um, then a doe heads out and 235 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:58,599 Speaker 1: there's no other buck behind her. So then that's what 236 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: I ended up thinking. Okay, that's that must be what happened. Um, 237 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:03,599 Speaker 1: so I feel kind of like an idiot. I was 238 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 1: getting all fired up, and then the buck I thought 239 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,959 Speaker 1: it was wasn't even in there. I'd also seen the 240 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: trespasser that morning, um, walking across one of my neighbors, 241 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: and so I was busy trying to get ahold of 242 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: the conservation officer and trying to get ahold of my neighbor. 243 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 1: And so I'm dealing with all that, and then I 244 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: turned around again and there's Tran. He's standing at like 245 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: sixty yards with a dough, so he had been in there, um, 246 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: but this is the other buck had passed through, so 247 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: trans out there sixty yards, he came out of the bedding. 248 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 1: Year he's with the dough, and long story short, he's 249 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: out of range, but he's on this dough and he 250 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: does these long circles around her, getting closer and then farther, closer, 251 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: and then farther, and then at one point he walked 252 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: way off like several hundred yards away, and I was like, okay, 253 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: it's done. The dough is way over there. And then 254 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: I looked to my right to see what's going on 255 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: if there's anything behind me, turned back and there's like 256 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 1: four or five doughs running right at me at like 257 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: twenty yards and trans right behind him. I'm like, holy crap, 258 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. I grabbed my bow. I'm thinking in 259 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: my head, is this real life? Um? He's tearing at me, 260 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: he's at sixties, at fifty five, he's at fifty. And 261 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 1: then he stops it, turns around, goes wack, walking back 262 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: towards the one solitary dell that he'd been with the 263 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: whole time. That was the story of November two. Tran 264 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: was was on that dough, UM, hot and heavy with her. 265 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: Couldn't get him to couldn't get him to give her up, 266 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: didn't get the shop, but it was exciting UM. And 267 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: then that was that was it. I tried to hunt 268 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: again that evening, hoping that she would cycle back through 269 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: her circle back through with him. I moved to stand 270 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: thirty yards closer to where they were at, hoping maybe 271 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: they'd follow that same entry point in the betting area, 272 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: but they did not, and the next day I had 273 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: to move to the back forty because we were starting 274 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: to film our rut hunts here in the back forty. 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 1: So I will try to be this along. I won't 276 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: give the full story because I'll probably do a big 277 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: recap of this um with Dan on a main episode 278 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: here soon. But the rut fresh report on the back 279 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: forty was that it was very very slow. I mean 280 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: we were seeing hardly anything, um hunting our best spots. 281 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: Finally going into the honey hole, which is this awesome 282 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 1: ridge transition slash bedding area that I thought would be 283 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: just bucks have to be passing through there. Um. Then 284 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: it moved to a pinch point along the edge of 285 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: the swamp. So good looking. But we're seeing three doughs 286 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: in a year and a half old in the morning, 287 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: two doys in a year and a half old in 288 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: the evening, a doll in a buck in the morning, 289 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: a dough and two year and a half hold in 290 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: the evening. I mean, just deathly slow days. Um, this 291 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: is getting pretty frustrating. But yesterday morning I heard a 292 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: buck bumping the doll around in the brush, but can 293 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: never see them. Kept on watching, kept on watching, kept 294 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: on watching. Then I turned to look over my back 295 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: and I see a big buck running across the field. 296 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: And it was this deer, that the one buck that 297 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: we've gotten the most pictures of that I saw once 298 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: because I bumped him. This buck I was kind of 299 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: referring to as the wide eight, the wide dates running 300 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: across the rage behind me. I bust out my grunt tube. 301 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: I fire off a large allowed grunt and he stops 302 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: on a dime, turns and looks, and then starts jogging 303 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: right at me. And long story short after going down 304 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: wind of me, came down wind, stopped, put his nose 305 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: in the air, sniff sniff, sniff, take a few steps 306 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: looking at me, sniff sniff sniff, keeps coming right in, 307 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: gets to twenty yards double along him, And that was 308 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: my rut on the back. Forty killed our first buck 309 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: off the back. Forty proved that a thorough sent control 310 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: process can pay off and had a hell of a day. 311 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: So it was nice to finally see some running action 312 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: out there, because up to that point it has been tough. 313 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: But I think that was a great reminder for me 314 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: and I had these every year. The rut can be 315 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: so hot and cold. Even though it might be a 316 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: day that's supposed to be great, if you're not in it, 317 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: it can be nothing. You won't see any ne dear 318 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: at all. You might see a few does. It could 319 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: just feel like the run has passed you by. But 320 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: then in a second, you know, in a moment, it 321 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: all change. So the rut for me is all about 322 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: trying to play that mental game, trying to stay positive 323 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: and focused, because when the moments come, they're quick and 324 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: you gotta be ready for it. Yeah, and I think 325 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: that there is a level of maturity that comes with 326 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: understanding that during the rout, because oftentimes your best rut 327 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: setups are going to be in some kind of tight 328 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: corridor where you don't have much for a line of vision. 329 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: And so you could go to a place like that 330 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 1: that's like the perfect funnel, but you can't see, you know, 331 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: beyond fifty yards, and so you could sit there all 332 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: day and not see any deer. But when you do, 333 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: it's those encounters that counts. And then there's a level 334 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: of maturity that comes with understanding that and accepting that, 335 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 1: you know, an observation stand might get you a sighting 336 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: of a dozen dear, but it doesn't really do you 337 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 1: any good if if they're not within bow range. Yeah, 338 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: it definitely is hard to do that unless you have 339 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: experience that tells you, hey, it's gonna be okay. These long, 340 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: slow sets are worth it if you know you're in 341 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: the right places. Um. Like you said, that does take 342 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: some some experience and some maturity to to know that 343 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 1: and accept that. Um. So it was nice to see 344 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: that come to fruition for me here recently, and glad 345 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: did for you too. Yeah, we'll congrat something awesome deer. Um. 346 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: And it sounds like we both agree that the rut 347 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: is here and maybe the best days are coming, like 348 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,440 Speaker 1: this weekend or right around this weekend, if you need 349 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: any further motivation to to get out and hunt here 350 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: in these coming days. Last year, I did an article 351 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: for Meat Eater on the best day of the white 352 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: tail runte and I reach out to ten people that 353 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: I would consider to be white tail experts like Bill Winky, 354 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: Tony Peterson, Mark jur and I asked them what their 355 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: absolute favorite day of the rut is, and seventy percent 356 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: of them agreed on a day between November seven and 357 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: November ten. So this four day wind coming up here 358 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: in November seven, November ten. Many hunters who have a 359 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: ton of cloud agree is the best time to be 360 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: in the woods. Can't beat it, man, this is the 361 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl. And uh I've got one more tag in 362 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: Michigan and a big eight pointer with with his name 363 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: on it. So hopefully we'll have some good news on 364 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: that front soon too. Yeah. Well, besides from us this week, 365 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: he was here from Mike Han Sucker and Missouri from 366 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: Hartland Bowl Hunter, and then we go to New Jersey 367 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: and talked to Pat Cutter from Red Hand Outdoor Company, 368 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: and then in Texas we talked to Tyler Jones from 369 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 1: the Element podcast and then we talked to Sam Sohold 370 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: from public Land Bus in South Dakota. Is that the 371 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: public Land van now what he still has? Both? It's not. 372 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: The public Land Bus isn't gone, it's just now he 373 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 1: is downsized and made his fleet a little more versatile. Nice. 374 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: Versatility is key. That's the key thing to think about 375 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 1: during the run as well. So well that said, I'm 376 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm ready to wrap this up a few are and 377 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: get to those interviews. Alright, Happy Rutt, and we will 378 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Alright, and joining us on 379 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: the line next is Mike han Sucker from Heart Lampbow 380 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: Hunter in Missouri. Now, Mike in Missouri. What would you 381 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: say the buck activities been lately? On a scale of 382 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: one to ten, I would say probably a seven. Probably. Uh, 383 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,199 Speaker 1: it seems like, you know, we're seeing a lot of cruising, 384 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 1: a lot of younger bucks cruising. Um, seeing some mature 385 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: deer on their feet, um, but not quite running hard yet. 386 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: So I think it's you know, they're they're seeking a lot, 387 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: they're they're hitting scrapes and and uh, you know, moving around. 388 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: But I don't think it's full born yet. What's your 389 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 1: strategy for trail cameras this time of year? Oh? Man, 390 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: you really should just throw them out. Throw the trail 391 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: camera strategy out the window. I feel like it's like, oh, 392 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 1: we get so hooked on, you know, trying to figure 393 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: out what a deer is doing and trying to figure 394 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: out what what area the deer is in, and um, 395 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: you know, they definitely can't help we. We'll run some 396 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: shellyo cameras and it is nice to know, u you know, 397 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: when the buck screws in the scrape, when he especially 398 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 1: in the coming weeks, you know, when he might be 399 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 1: in between does and he might be looking. It's good 400 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: to know then. Um, otherwise, man, they can really just 401 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: seems like they just drive you nuts this time a 402 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: year because you know, you check one and you're like, oh, 403 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: I should have been here and should have been there, 404 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: and when those deals this time of the year, you 405 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: just gotta get in the woods and hunt your spots 406 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: that the most productive and um, you know, you just 407 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: gotta hunt hard and hopefully luck fall in your favor. 408 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: You just mentioned scrapes. Are you still seeing some fresh 409 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: signmaking in Missouri? Yeah? Oh yeah, they're hitting the scrapes 410 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: really hard right now. It seems like, um, I've seen 411 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot of buckscrews hitting scrapes. Actually a buck that 412 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: I was hunting this past week in Missouri, um was 413 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: actually frequenting this scrape but two days in a row, 414 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: middle of the day, like one thirty one day and 415 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: two o'clock the next day before it goes before the 416 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: time change. But basically you know, early early midday. So now, 417 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: for most hunters, using a decoy is kind of hail mary, 418 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: but it seems like you have a ton of success 419 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: doing it, so much so that you just decoyed in 420 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: two bucks today. Tell me about what your decoy strategies are. Yeah, 421 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: I absolutely loved using a decoy this time of year, um, 422 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: when the bucks are just on their feet just you know, 423 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: cruise and cruise and cruising. Um. You know, the decoys 424 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: are hit or miss. A lot of people don't have 425 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: success with them because you know, I use a buck 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,680 Speaker 1: decoy exclusively. I don't really mess the dough decoy yet 427 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: or at all. I really haven't much us all released 428 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: so um, but those will get nervous with the buck 429 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: decoy and they'll come in and they'll stop and blow 430 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: and run off and they can mess up a hunt. 431 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: And so you know, a lot most of the time, 432 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm not using them in super high beared into the 433 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: areas um where you know you're hoping to see much 434 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 1: of deer. A lot of times it's more of an 435 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: observation sitting spot where I can kind of sit back 436 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: look see movement maybe called the deer um. You know 437 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 1: there are there is an exception. I mean like actually 438 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: this morning, you know, I was hunting over a plot 439 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: with one um and I would never usually hunting more 440 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: you know, food plot in the morning. Um, or with 441 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: a deco. But this time of year, the does are 442 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,120 Speaker 1: are being harassed so much in these fop plots, then 443 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: they're not really spending much time in there. So the 444 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: bucks are coming, they'll come pop up and check them, 445 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: but the doughs aren't, you know, spending a ton of 446 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: time in the food plots. So I just kind of 447 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: trying to risk it there. Do you do anything with 448 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: scents during the rout? You know, I don't, Actually, um, 449 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: I probably should. I just have never been a big 450 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: sin guy. Um, I just have never been you know, 451 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: big on introducing any other any sent outside of you know, 452 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: minimal minimal sense. So um, I probably should, though I 453 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: can see it being effective with the decoy I have 454 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: in the past actually saved you know, TARSI lands off 455 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: bucks and I put them on the decoy when using it, um, 456 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: because they always circled down when the decoy. That's the 457 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: hard part is getting is positioning the decoy to where 458 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: they can circle down when come in to the setup 459 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: without getting down when the view and offer you a shot. 460 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: And so um, I think, you know, having some sent 461 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: could definitely definitely help. Like the encounter I had the 462 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: night last night. Actually the buck circled down wint to 463 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: the decoy, and he circled wide down whin so he 464 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,159 Speaker 1: kind of got to where he was on our you know, 465 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: almost down on the bus. And if we maybe had 466 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 1: that sin like he he wasn't like he didn't pick 467 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: us up big time and since freak, but he just 468 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: kind of like I have on the vill right, So 469 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: I think, you know, for maybe we had a little 470 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: bit of a bucks and on that deacoy may have 471 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, convinced them otherwise. But so hard to say. 472 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: When you do make a shot using a decoy, how 473 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: does that often play out? Are you making the shot 474 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,959 Speaker 1: as the buck approaches a decoy or is it right 475 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: after he gets up to the decoy? How how does 476 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: that usually go for you? It all depends. Um Ideally 477 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: you shoot him before they get to the decoy, because 478 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: most of the time they either get you know, two 479 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: or three feet and just charge it and then they 480 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: freak out because the deco goes flying and it's hard plastic, 481 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,400 Speaker 1: or sometimes they'll come up to it slowly if they're 482 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: not really aggressive and confident, they'll come up to a 483 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: slowly and they'll smell it and they'll stick their nose 484 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: up to it, and I don't know if it's the 485 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: fact it doesn't have any sent or if it's that 486 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: it's like a hard plastic that they just they just 487 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: know it's not right. And a lot of times they'll 488 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: they'll bust out and you won't get a shot. And 489 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: so I always try to get a shot prior, um, 490 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: you know, because then getting too close. But it can 491 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: be tough. I mean, the buck I killed a couple 492 00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 1: of years ago, and I I tried to stop, and 493 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: they usually are so so into it that they don't 494 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: really hear anything, and so getting in the stop can 495 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: be really tough going forward. Then, in this next week 496 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 1: or so, what do you think that bucket activity is 497 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: going to be on the scale of one to ten 498 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: in Missouri? I would say it's gonna be a nine 499 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: or ten. I gotta think, you know, these next few days, especially, um, 500 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: I think that they're gonna start really really running hard. 501 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: We got some good weather coming. Actually the weather has 502 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: been great for the past week, and uh really can't 503 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: complain about the weather at all. So I think these 504 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: next these next you know, three, four or five days 505 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: could be pretty special. Alright, Mike, I hope the decoy 506 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: success continues. Good luck and thanks for joining me. All right, 507 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,680 Speaker 1: thanks man, all right in joining us online. Next is 508 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 1: Pat Cutter from Red Hand Outdoor Company in New Jersey. Now, 509 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: Pat in New Jersey. What would you say the bucket 510 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: activities been lately? On a scale of one to ten? 511 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: He was up Spencer, Um, I'd say right now today, Uh, 512 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: it's probably about a seven or eight. Um, I think 513 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: it's really starting to pick up now. I had I 514 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,159 Speaker 1: had hunt it yesterday morning and uh, I passed up 515 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: a good three year old yesterday. And also yesterday afternoon 516 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: I had a buck dogging doll all behind me and 517 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: the thick stuff. Um, I could never get a crack 518 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,600 Speaker 1: at that one. Um. But this morning again I went out. 519 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: I went out this morning and had another buck chasing 520 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: the doll all over the place, just just out of range. Um. 521 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think it's I think it's really turning 522 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: on right now. Are you seeing any midday movement in 523 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: and if not, how far away do you think we 524 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: are from some of that midday action? Um. There. I 525 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: did check some cameras midday to day and I have 526 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: been seen some midday cruisers. Um. Nothing nothing over the 527 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: age of really four and a half, some like two 528 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: and three year old cruisers. But I think, you know, 529 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: if you got the time now, I think now is 530 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: the time to to to sit all day and just 531 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: put all your cards in. Are you seeing any signmaking 532 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 1: still in New Jersey? And how do you factor that 533 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: into your decision making? Um? Not as much. I mean 534 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: scrapes have have kind of trickled out a little bit. UM. 535 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: I think now they're just they're just looking for the 536 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 1: for the for the dose. UM. I would get you know, 537 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: you know in those typical funnels, or or get you 538 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: know downwind of known Gough betting areas and and just 539 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: post up shop there and you know it's this time 540 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: of year. It's all. It's all a lucky thing. Really, 541 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: He's got to be at the right place at the 542 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: right time and put your time in a lot of 543 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: the country for this rut is dealing with standing crops? 544 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: Is that something you're dealing with the New Jersey. I 545 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 1: have seen standing crops. Um. I did lose the one 546 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: lease that I'm on, um, so I'm not really hunting 547 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: any egg properties right now, but I have seen it. 548 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: I have seen crops still standing, so I'm sure it's 549 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: somewhat of an issue for for some guys. But I'm all, 550 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm hunting all big woods right now, so obviously it's 551 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: not for me. When you are hunting those big woods. 552 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 1: What food sources are you focused on right now? I'm 553 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: up by us in the mountains, up by us a 554 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: lot of red oaks this year. Um, the whites really 555 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 1: didn't produce this year, but but the ground is littered 556 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: with red oaks. And you know, I got some of 557 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,639 Speaker 1: my cameras on video video mode and you could just 558 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 1: see them just munching, you know, the cruise by the camera, 559 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: they hit a scrape and they'll grab a couple of 560 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: acorns and just keep moving. So they're all over the 561 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: place this year. When you're hunting the big woods in 562 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: New Jersey on public land, I assume that you're forced 563 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: to do some scouting as you go. What's your strategy 564 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: for scouting this time year when you plan on hunting 565 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: right away. I'm trying to find something that's going to 566 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: change the deer, whether you know, I got some spots 567 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,680 Speaker 1: um where there's some there's some swamps, swamps up on 568 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: top of a ridge, and I'm trying to, you know, 569 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: find spots that will pinch the deer through a spot 570 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: you know within you know, anywhere from thirty to fifty 571 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: yards where I can get a shot at him. Um, 572 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: something like that. Um. You know, this morning I hunted 573 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: on top of a big mountain world ridge and um, 574 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,359 Speaker 1: right right at the point, like the the thick laurels 575 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,800 Speaker 1: kind of open up a little bit, so they so 576 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: they run that edge. UM. So that's something pretty much 577 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: for what I'm looking for. Um. But you know, it 578 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: all depends. Like this morning, I set up on that 579 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: edge and the deer were in the thick stuff and 580 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: they ended up cutting down to the bottom and I 581 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: never I never saw him again. But do you do 582 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 1: any calling when you're hunting public land in New Jersey? 583 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,200 Speaker 1: I do? I mean these bucks they don't see too 584 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: many humans or hunters. If you're getting back to certain spots, Um, 585 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: they're they're not hearing much of that. I do. I 586 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 1: did call it the buck yesterday, and I did call 587 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: it the buck this morning, but they were they were 588 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: so focused on the on that dough that it didn't 589 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: make any difference and they just wanted to leave in her. 590 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: So going forward, then in the next week or so, 591 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: what do you think that buck activity is going to 592 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 1: be on a scale of one to ten in New Jersey? 593 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna stay pretty steady, um, around seven, 594 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,959 Speaker 1: eight to nine even. I mean, our our temperatures are right, 595 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: we're coming into a good, a good moon phase. Um, 596 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: as long as they're not getting locked down. UM, I 597 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be good the next the next week 598 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: or so. Alr, pat, good luck the rest of the fall. 599 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thank you, Spencer, alright and joining 600 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: us on the line. Next is Tyler Jones from the 601 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: Element podcast in Texas. Now, Tyler in Texas, what would 602 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 1: you say the buck activities been lately on a scale 603 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: of one to ten um, it's probably around the six 604 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: man um, I would say, I mean there's been a 605 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: good buck activity activity. I guess if you want to 606 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 1: look at screens and um, we've seen a tiny young 607 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 1: bucks side. I mean, I think we've got footage of 608 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: bucks fiding on the seventh of October, which is early 609 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: for us. I mean it's it's usually going to be 610 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: in the nineties far as temperature goes that time of year. 611 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: And um, so I mean we've had a good, very 612 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: cool October after having the hattest September on record, and 613 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I think it really kicked um the bucks into kind 614 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: of overdrive. But I don't think it's necessarily done anything 615 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,280 Speaker 1: for the dose. So as far as like stages of 616 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: the room, we're still not quite there. I don't think. So. 617 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: When you hear the report out of someplace like Indiana 618 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 1: or Kansas, for example, how relatable is that for you 619 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: guys in Texas, Uh, we don't typically pay a whole 620 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: lot of attention to it. Um. I mean, and there's 621 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: so many different ecoregions in Texas where you know, we've 622 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: uh we've got a coastal region, We've got the Panhama region, 623 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: you know, mountains, uh, piney woods, all these different regions, 624 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 1: so there's different uh windows. I mean, we have year 625 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: that rut in August and in the brush country South Texas, 626 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: then they run in mid December. So um, it's it's definitely, 627 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, very specific to the region. But overall we 628 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: don't pay attention to a lot of that. I mean, 629 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: I gotta report from a buddy yesterday and he said 630 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: he's all bucks chasing at mid Dundy in Ottawa and 631 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: and essentially saying get up here, which I can't right now, 632 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: you know, but uh, it's it doesn't mean a whole 633 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: lot to us because ums in Texas and UM a 634 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: different part of the state than I live in, and 635 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: it's um, you know, it's it's still deer checking scrapes 636 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: and kind of light cruise in real early in the morning. 637 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: But there's nothing like morning at all. Are you seeing 638 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: much for signmaking right now? Then? Yeah, there's uh, there's 639 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: there's a pretty good, um, you know, number of scrapes. UM, 640 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: haven't seen a ton of road humor. I just um, 641 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: I think in the last week or so, temps have 642 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: been pretty moderate. I know at home they've been in 643 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: the um load of mid seventies. UM where I'm at 644 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: right now, we're still getting pushing into the mid sixties, 645 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: even though it's kind of cold in the mornings and 646 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 1: at night. UM, So you know, it's I just don't 647 00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: know that they're all swollen up and read to you know, 648 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: push trees around two much I'm seeing if you're here 649 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: in there, but mostly still scraps. And actually a guy 650 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 1: on this hunt this morning shot a real nice eight 651 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 1: point on a great um this morning. So it's definitely 652 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: an effective thing for us. Here. If you're not seeing 653 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: much for rutting activity, that I imagine a lot of 654 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: your focus has been on food. What food sources should 655 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: hunters be looking for right now? In Texas? You know 656 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 1: oaks were back home where I'm at, oaks are predominant 657 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: food source. UM had another buddy shoot public Landier in 658 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: late October and he said there wasn't a thing in 659 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: his stomach to step for anythings. And UM, so I mean, well, 660 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: what we'll do is usually start out in mid October 661 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: in October hunting shumart oaks back home, UM, which are 662 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: a red oak with a big acron and UM, by 663 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,239 Speaker 1: this point those are starting to stay and we've had 664 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: a lot of the swamp oaks, the willow oaks. UM. 665 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: Those kind of oaks are have dropped these really bright 666 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: orange acrons on on the inside their bright orange. So 667 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,600 Speaker 1: they've got a lot o pins and know, but they 668 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: start to break down this month and especially in the December, 669 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: those will become a pretty good food source. UM. Per 670 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: Simmons also something that is UM. Depending on where you're 671 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: at and how much wins you had, you've had, UM, 672 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: they're probably about right right now. UM. They may be 673 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: on the back end of that a little bit. UM. 674 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: So those are kind of the natural food sources that 675 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: uh we focus on this time of the year. In 676 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: the state like Texas where you have limited public land 677 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of hunters. What is your strategy for 678 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 1: hunting public land during pre rock Um, it's really just 679 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 1: about UM, you know, the more I look at, I 680 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 1: bounced around a lot, UM, and I think that it's 681 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 1: more about we run some trail cameras, we can can 682 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: usually see deer. Uh. If you see there in August, 683 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 1: you usually you know, and even September early September, you 684 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: usually you don't see those deer again in my experience, UM, 685 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: throughout the season hardly at all. But from that like 686 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,680 Speaker 1: back half of September on indo October, if you can 687 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: use some pretty recent trail camera information, UM, then this 688 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: sitting there SoCal nights in a row on good winds 689 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: underneath oak trease that d m AB feeding on is 690 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: really a dead tactic. And it it doesn't really um, 691 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: like you were saying, there's there's limited public land in Texas, 692 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: so it doesn't really matter if you can see a 693 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: place on the map that looks good and it's it's 694 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: a mile and a half end, there's probably gonna be 695 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: a stand there. So, um, it doesn't matter how far 696 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,839 Speaker 1: you're going in really it's really just about getting boots 697 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: on the ground, um, even this time of year, and 698 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: uh finding fresh time and then just finding it going forward. 699 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,320 Speaker 1: Then in the next week or so, what do you 700 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: think that bucket activity is going to be a skill 701 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: of one to tend in Texas? Um? I think, um 702 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 1: across a lot of a lot of maybe the western 703 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: half of Texas, we're really gonna see the deer. When 704 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: I say western half, probably the Interstate thirty five which 705 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: goes through Dallas forth, Um Winster there, UM probably gonna 706 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: see a lot of um, the white tails are gonna 707 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: be really ramping up into the right um as we 708 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,840 Speaker 1: go into the next week or so. Um East, I 709 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: think you know back where a hunt where I'm where 710 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: we're from, in our homes are at our home there's 711 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be probably more towards the middle of the 712 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: month when we see uh things really start to you know, 713 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: kind of get to that chaotic level a little bit. 714 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,120 Speaker 1: So still got you know, a couple of weeks before 715 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: we get there. Um, But yeah, so Western Western have 716 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,399 Speaker 1: to say, I think it's gonna it's gonna be really good. 717 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: I think we've got co Front coming in later this week, 718 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: so that should really just uh you know the scales. Alright, Tyler, 719 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: good luck to you and Casey from the Element podcast, 720 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me. Thanks Spencer, alright enjoying us online. 721 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: Next is Sam Soholt from the public Land Bus in 722 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: South Dakota. Now, Sam in South Dakota, what would you 723 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: say the buck activities man lately on a scale of 724 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,320 Speaker 1: one to ten? You know, this first part of November, 725 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: I would say it's right somewhere between five and six. Um, 726 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: it hasn't been there hasn't been like all out chasing. Um, 727 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: there has been some falling ducks that are cruising after those, 728 00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: and uh a couple of more mature gear chasing. But 729 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,640 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not on the fire yet. Now. 730 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 1: That seems low for this time of year. Is that 731 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: historically the kind of number that you would give, or 732 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: is there something this year that's making that buck move 733 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit worse for bow hunters, you know, 734 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: typically this early in November. Uh, here it's it's kind 735 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: of really just starting to kick off. And this year 736 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: I think what changed kind of what's been keeping it 737 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: lower is the fact that basically the entire eastern half 738 00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: of South Dakota still has standing crop because of all 739 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 1: the water um back in this region. But yeah, I 740 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of the deer are if they are 741 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 1: running hard, they possibly just doing in the middle of 742 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: cornfield instead of going through transitions or thickets or uh 743 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,320 Speaker 1: timber stands. All that water that we've had in the 744 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: great planes. Has that change anything else for you besides 745 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 1: the delayed harvests? You know, for me personally, it definitely 746 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,959 Speaker 1: changed some access points, some places that had to work 747 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: around to get into still, and I think it has 748 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: changed deer movement. Um One area that has historically seen 749 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: a few deer and the majority of the deer would 750 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: bed in a cattail slew nearby, it is absolutely full 751 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 1: of deer this year, simply because they are displaced by 752 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: the water. UM So, I think it's definitely changed how 753 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: deer are using the terrain. But it's also an opportunity 754 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: to find uh some funnels and pinch point because of 755 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: that water this year that probably didn't exist for the 756 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: past decade. If you're not seeing any of that midday 757 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: movement quite yet. When do you expect for South Dakota's 758 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: to see that kind of action. I would say in 759 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: the next day or two. It should kick off. Stuff 760 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: should be moving all day. We've got a lot of 761 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 1: We've got a huge cold weather system coming over the 762 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: next week, and I would imagine that the cold weather 763 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 1: and just it being that time of the month will 764 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: keep deer on their feet all day. Now, you just 765 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: killed a great buck there in eastern South Dakota on 766 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,480 Speaker 1: public land. Tell us about that set up, and tell 767 00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 1: us about what you're looking for when you pick some 768 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: of these places to bowhunts on public land. So I 769 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: typically try to get to places that a lot of 770 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,320 Speaker 1: other people might not go or might overlook. Um. So 771 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: the setup I had was honestly just a real small 772 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,760 Speaker 1: island of trees kind of in the middle of nowhere, 773 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's spot I have seen deer in 774 00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: the past moving through, but it's never had a chance 775 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: to get in there and hunt. Um. But it was 776 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 1: it's thick enough kind of on the perimeter that I 777 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: knew it would be out of the wind. I was 778 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 1: hunting a windy day and happened to get in the 779 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: right tree at the right time and had had a 780 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,840 Speaker 1: really good My buck was actually chasing um was pursuing 781 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: a dough through the the through the little thicket, and 782 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:20,040 Speaker 1: she carried him right past me, so twenty five yards 783 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,320 Speaker 1: and he did not go very far after that. In 784 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 1: the past, I know on public land you've killed some 785 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: deer this time of year using decoys. How do you 786 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: decide when you use a set up like that? So 787 00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: typically for me, like I'm a fairly aggressive hunter when 788 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,000 Speaker 1: it comes to this time of year, I figured, I 789 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: pretty I'll hunt a different spot every hunt, and if 790 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: I if I'm going to a spot that I know 791 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,320 Speaker 1: is highly visible, a lot of times I'll bring a 792 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: decoy this time of year just to give me an 793 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,320 Speaker 1: extra advantage where if I do see a buck cruising 794 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 1: at a distance, I can grown at him or rattle 795 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,800 Speaker 1: at him to get his attention and then when he 796 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: looks over, he'll see the decoy and come check it out. Um. 797 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: So I don't think any time in the month of 798 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080 Speaker 1: November is a good time to use a decoy. If 799 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,200 Speaker 1: you're in a place that's highly visible going forward, then 800 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: in this next week or so, what do you think 801 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,880 Speaker 1: that bucket Kivy is going to be on a scale 802 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,680 Speaker 1: of one to ten in South Dakota. You know, I 803 00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: would say in the next two or three days that 804 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: should ramp right up to an eight or nine, um 805 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: and then be get kind of hold right there, if 806 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: not bump all the way to ten over the next week. 807 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: All right, Samuel, congrats on the awesome dear thanks for 808 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:31,760 Speaker 1: joining me. Yeah, thank you, And that concludes this week's 809 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: episode of rut Fresh Radio. Thanks to Mike, pat Tyler 810 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120 Speaker 1: and Sam for joining me, and thank you guys for listening. 811 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,040 Speaker 1: This is the absolute best time of the year to 812 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,279 Speaker 1: be in the woods to help. Everyone has a chance 813 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,120 Speaker 1: to take advantage of it. So happy rout and if 814 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: you're looking for more timely info like this, head over 815 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 1: to the media dot com. We have some written rut 816 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: Fresh reports coming out every single week on Thursdays. We 817 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: also have a ton of other great white tail content 818 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 1: from people like me, Mark Kenyon, and Tony Peterson that 819 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 1: will hopefully help you tag a buck this year. We'll 820 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: talk to you guys next week, but until then, stay 821 00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:07,919 Speaker 1: wired to hunt.