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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we roll

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Speaker 2: into what should be a very illuminating and fun show.

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Speaker 2: Buck is here in Nashville. As we mentioned yesterday, we

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Speaker 2: are in our Nashville studio having a good time here.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you giving you a little roadmap

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Speaker 2: where we're headed. Governor Stitt of Oklahoma will join us

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Speaker 2: in the second hour. Then Raymond de Royo from Fox

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Speaker 2: News many of you see him on Laura Ingram Show.

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Speaker 2: He will be with us in the third hour. Lots

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Speaker 2: of different stories. The border is falling apart. We have

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Speaker 2: stupidity from Whoopee Goldberg on the view go Figure, Nordstrom

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Speaker 2: shutting down in San Francisco, continuing the ridiculousness of San

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Speaker 2: Francisco falling apart. Tucker Carlson under siege as more in

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Speaker 2: more leaks continue to come out about him. But as

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Speaker 2: the last thirty minutes or so, a breaking news story

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Speaker 2: from the Washington Post about Hunter Biden and potential charges

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Speaker 2: that may be coming. And I want to just give

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Speaker 2: you some of the details from this story that just

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Speaker 2: came out in the last hour or so headline Prosecutors

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Speaker 2: near charging decision in Hunter Biden case. A meeting between

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Speaker 2: prosecutors and defense lawyers comes towards the end of an investigation.

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Speaker 2: Of course, this is the four year long investigation into

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop and potential charges that could have

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Speaker 2: been proved based on that laptop. Here is the opening

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Speaker 2: paragraph from the Washington Post. Prosecutors are nearing a decision

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Speaker 2: on whether to charge President Biden's son Hunter with tax

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Speaker 2: and gun related violations, according to people familiar with the matter,

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Speaker 2: the culmination of a four year investigation Republicans have sought

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Speaker 2: to portray as evidence the Biden family is corrupt, story says.

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Speaker 2: Biden's attorneys met at the Justice Department last week to

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Speaker 2: discuss the case with US Attorney David Weiss of Delaware,

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Speaker 2: according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on

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Speaker 2: the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal investigation. Typically,

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Speaker 2: according to The Washington Post, that sort of meeting in

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Speaker 2: which the defense lawyers urge prosecutors not to seek an

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Speaker 2: indictment or to seek reduced charges comes towards the end

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Speaker 2: of that investigation. People familiar with the matter said, Weiss

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Speaker 2: nearing the end of his decision making process.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: They cautioned the probe has taken longer than some officials

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Speaker 2: thought it would and that law enforcement officials have been frustrated.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Buck?

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Speaker 2: This would have obviously very significant impact on Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: recently announced presidential campaign. What I have been saying, I

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Speaker 2: think for over a year now, maybe even a couple

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Speaker 2: some form of charges brought here now. This obviously would

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Speaker 2: be unprecedented for a sitting president's son to be facing

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Speaker 2: felony charges. It would also significantly add a monstrous amount

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Speaker 2: think are very legitimate that the Biden crime family has

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Speaker 2: been involved in many different crimes. So, Buck, how do

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Speaker 2: you analyze this Washington Post story that just came out?

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Speaker 1: Anybody who understands just as as a way, I think

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Speaker 1: of prefacing the whole discussion that we're getting into now

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Speaker 1: of a special counsel. Why special councils even exist should

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Speaker 1: first be reminded that this is why a special council exists.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is one where there has not

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Speaker 1: been the appointment of a special council. But when you

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Speaker 1: that is why, because the idea is quite obviously you

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Speaker 1: can't trust the White House, which oversees the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice to Right now, what do we have, Clay, We

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Speaker 1: have Merrick Garland Biden employees word that he will allow

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Speaker 1: this to proceed without any political interference or pressure whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody believe that it's already taken longer than anyone

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Speaker 1: thought it four years? Right? So that is suspicious to

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Speaker 1: begin with, there should have been a special council appointed.

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Speaker 1: There has not. That decision was political. Just wanted to

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Speaker 2: What that meeting that the Washington Post is reporting about

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Speaker 1: There will not be a trial. But see this is

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Speaker 1: If you have an if you are an account you

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Speaker 1: that I just didn't declare any taxes on for a

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Speaker 1: I mean not declaring income from any source but from

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Speaker 1: me and just just talk to Wesley Snipes by the way, right,

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Speaker 1: that's what people for those year. I was a big

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Speaker 2: You have to be super rich, first of all to

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Speaker 2: even be able to owe millions of dollars in back taxes. Right,

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Speaker 2: most people, even if they didn't pay their taxes for

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Speaker 1: You're usually in a in a tax issue, there's the

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Speaker 1: well I thought, and Mike, and that's real, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because the tax code is so opaque and thousands and

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Speaker 1: not paying taxes on it, that's about as bright red

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Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna see a a pretty obviously

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Speaker 1: sweetheart deal for Hunter Biden. But I would just say this, Clay,

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Speaker 1: But he pleads to felonies but no prison time is

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Speaker 1: If it comes to that becomes for the media, you

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Speaker 1: know how they're gonna do this. They're gonna say, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's just he struggles with addiction and Hunter is his only,

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Speaker 1: so much. They will turn this into a sympathy point

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Speaker 1: the Biden. Now I'm saying what the media narrative around

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Speaker 1: until you get money from Hunter to Joe, until you

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Speaker 1: can show the crime family in operation. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, no matter what the outcome of the trial is.

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Speaker 1: So I think they're gonna have to bring charges.

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Speaker 2: I have just you know, I've got the Marco Polo

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Speaker 2: Report buck For people out there who know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. This is like a you know, six hundred

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Speaker 2: page investigation that somebody published and you can flip through

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Speaker 2: it and you can see all the detailed crimes. I

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Speaker 2: actually think that if they bring charges, which I believe

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Speaker 2: just lay out the possibility here. So first of all,

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Speaker 2: as soon as their charges brought, any argument of oh,

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Speaker 2: that laptop is fake is out the window, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean it is. It is out the window. And so

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State Blinking for instance, and everyone else who

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Speaker 2: it emboldens and enforces, reinforces perhaps all of the other

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Speaker 2: potential criminal entanglements involving the Biden family, Because once you

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Speaker 2: find one little tendril of truth, and you keep pulling it,

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Speaker 2: it gets harder and harder to deny. And I just

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Speaker 2: think that Hunter is the lynch pin here because if

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Speaker 2: they charge him, first of all, it would take a year, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know these cases don't move rapidly. Now,

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Speaker 2: think that's the smartest play for the bidens is he

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do that, it puts his dad really on

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Speaker 2: the clock, because do you think that Hunter would get

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Speaker 1: Pardon from his dad? I kind of think you would.

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Speaker 2: And then we get into that really politically toxic idea

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Speaker 2: if he got re elected, he could do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But but there's that puts so much more faith

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Speaker 2: Remember, I think it doesn't remember from my theory though,

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Speaker 2: that if you charge Hunter, even if it's a low level,

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Speaker 2: so you can charge Trump, it allows you to charge Trump.

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Speaker 2: Because I think this has been my big argument for

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Speaker 2: a while. Merrick Garland wants to be able to say

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Speaker 2: when he charges Trump, we're applying the law without favor.

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Speaker 2: This is whether it's the president's son or the former

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Speaker 2: president of the United States. No one is above the law.

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Speaker 2: If they charge Hunter with relatively low level offenses, which

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Speaker 2: aren't that significant, it opens the door to I think

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Speaker 1: But I think that's really significant. Right when you're saying

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Speaker 1: him to prison for years, or they could agree to

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Speaker 1: a plea deal where he just pays additional fines and

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Speaker 1: admits some level of financial impropriety. To me, the second

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Speaker 1: we're all done here, and it doesn't even factor into it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it allows them to then claim that nobody's getting preferential.

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Speaker 1: True, right, but I don't know how much we care. Well,

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Speaker 1: maybe they're trying to play to the independence, right because

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Speaker 1: we know we know there is preferential so this is why.

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Speaker 1: So this is a little bit like when they were

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Speaker 1: running the the January sixth Liz Cheney specials. We're sitting

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Speaker 1: here saying, you know, who cares about this stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: they are going after one percent, we're going. It absolutely worked,

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Speaker 1: and it's very frustrating, and you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: us felt like, how could twenty twenty two have gone

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Speaker 1: that way? They were playing a very a very dirty,

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Speaker 1: but very effective game in how they presented what was

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, I think it's it's interesting that that

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Speaker 1: him to ask how could they find Hunter Biden if

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Speaker 1: he can't even pay child support? First of all, child

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Speaker 1: support stuff, there's a whole other discussion that we had

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Speaker 1: here for the way family court works and and the

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Speaker 1: back and forth and the way it's tilted actually against

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Speaker 1: men in a very negative way. That's I think legally

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Speaker 1: very dubious. But beyond that, there's wrangling that goes on

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Speaker 1: about how much child support? What can you do? But

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Speaker 1: if Hunter had to pay a fine, let's say, for

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Speaker 1: his tax issues, I think you would just see a

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Speaker 1: Democrat donor just give him the money. I think I

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Speaker 1: think people would just step in to help him as

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Speaker 1: long as he keeps quiet and does what he's told

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Speaker 1: to do. From here on out.

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Speaker 2: You have to be careful there, because remember he is

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Speaker 2: getting My understanding is that he's already had a Democrat

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Speaker 2: donor pay off much of his tax buility. Yes, right, yes,

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Speaker 2: And so how does he not have the money to

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Speaker 2: pay child support? And I'm not an expert they have

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Speaker 2: no income. I'm not well, and that could be an

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Speaker 2: argument as well. I'm not an export expert in family law,

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Speaker 2: but it's not that complicated. Typically to figure out child

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Speaker 2: support there is a formula in which it is plugged in,

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Speaker 2: and Joe and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania is asking this question. My

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Speaker 2: point on it, Buck is, if you were giving Hunter

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Speaker 2: Biden good advice, my number one advice would be, Hey,

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Speaker 2: don't go to court with your baby mama in Arkansas

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Speaker 2: because you're refusing to pay child support. Even if you're

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Speaker 2: trying to argue the child supports too much. In the

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Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, whatever, he's having to pay for

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Speaker 2: this child. One, he should have to pay for it

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Speaker 2: because it's his child. It's been established. But two, the

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Speaker 2: amount of attention that this draws on you in general

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Speaker 2: is not favorable at all, and it also then, to me,

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Speaker 2: draws even more attention to your other criminal related activity.

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Speaker 1: Right. But you have to also remember, in the background

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Speaker 1: of all this, and it's not about how our people

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Speaker 1: listening to this show will understand these things, right, It's

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Speaker 1: about how this gets processed by the big media out

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Speaker 1: there that's Democrat aligned in an election year, Right, now

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Speaker 1: there's a trial for for Donald Trump for rape. So

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Speaker 1: what they're gonna say right that that is what is

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Speaker 1: going on in New York City. That's going on right

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Speaker 1: now in New York City. So what they're going to

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Speaker 1: say is, Okay, so Hunter's a mess. Whatever. Look what

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's done. Joe Biden stands by his family. I'm

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Speaker 1: just saying, there's a narrative creation here that they're going

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Speaker 1: to do, on the one hand, minimizing everything about the

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Speaker 1: Biden crime family possible, and we should just be prepared

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Speaker 1: for this, the dishonest even look at the hundred bydon

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Speaker 1: laptop thing, they.

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Speaker 2: Will lie in the most places one and anyone who

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Speaker 2: has looked at any of it from the moment we saw.

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Speaker 1: And on the on the other side of the Trump's

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Speaker 1: side of this, I've been saying it and I think

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Speaker 1: that people, you know, because we all people who certainly

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Speaker 1: support Trump, see this for what it is. But their

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Speaker 1: plan is to get a New York jury to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: based on a preponderance of the evidence, we think Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump raped this woman thirty some odd years ago, based

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Speaker 1: on no evidence of any kind that I other other

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Speaker 1: than she says this happened.

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Speaker 2: She's got a couple of people that she told that

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Speaker 2: it allegedly happened. That's the entire case, so far as

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Speaker 2: I can see from her evidence perspective.

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Speaker 1: But then it becomes every time, you know, there's a

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Speaker 1: roundtable on, like you know, one of these Sunday shows,

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Speaker 1: and every time he's going to the general election, and

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Speaker 1: we say, hey, the hunter Biden thing, it has got

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Speaker 1: the child out of wedlock, the tax issues, the Biden

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Speaker 1: crime family, Joe is getting kickbacks and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: What a mess all this is. They're just gonna shout

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is a rapist, and that's supposed to be there.

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Speaker 2: There counter to be fair, there's a pretty credible argument

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Speaker 2: that Joe Biden also committed sexual assault, except he did

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Speaker 2: it on a staff member while she was employed for him,

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Speaker 2: and that story basically I would say that's by the way,

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Speaker 2: that's a very important point to add into this discussion.

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Speaker 2: The Joe Biden sexual assault story is just based on

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Speaker 2: the stories, entirely credible, entirely reasonable, and the and it's

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Speaker 2: just a you know, they they they like Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: so they believe him when he says he didn't do it.

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Speaker 2: It was a staffer, she had constant access to him.

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Speaker 2: They spend a lot of time together.

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Speaker 1: There's no question the facts about their basic relationship are

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Speaker 1: not in dispute. It's just he says that this thing

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Speaker 1: never happened with her. Given Joe Biden's behavior by the

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Speaker 1: way around people in general, with the sniffing and everything else,

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Speaker 1: clearly had weird habits. It's not the same thing as

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Speaker 1: sexual assaulting somebody, but it is indicative of a guy

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Speaker 1: who doesn't really understand boundaries. With Donald Trump, you look

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Speaker 1: back and just say, Okay, what exactly is the basis

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Speaker 1: for this? And we played the audio of Egen Carroll.

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Speaker 2: Saying on on she thought rape was sexy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was trying to remember it was and Shooper show.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just I'm just trying to trying to put

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Speaker 1: out right now so we can all get ready for it.

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Speaker 1: How they're gonna try to spin this stuff and how

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Speaker 1: they how they're gonna play it. I just look, I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Hunter Biden stuff, no matter how bad

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Speaker 1: it gets, unless they have of illegal money going from

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Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, which by the way, I'm not I think

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Speaker 1: this exists out there. I just don't know, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's alleged, unproven unless they get money from Hunter from

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Speaker 1: even then they'll just say it's, you know, a deep

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Speaker 1: fake or something else. But that you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: think that the Hunter Biden thing takes down the Biden reelection.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it could, Buck.

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Speaker 2: I think I hope you're I hope you're by the way,

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Speaker 2: Joe and Bethlehem, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: What you got for us? Is he still there?

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Speaker 2: Well, when we got to Joe's question, we kind of yeah, Joe,

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Speaker 2: was there anything else you wanted to add? I shouted

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Speaker 2: out your name, so I figured we might as well

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Speaker 2: let you also way.

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Speaker 1: In here for a few seconds. Oh he's gone, he's gone. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, Tookana. I appreciate Bethlen in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: If if everything starts to fall apart for Joe Biden,

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Speaker 2: this is the time it has to happen. It has

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Speaker 2: to happen right now, just for the timeline, because they

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Speaker 2: don't want this to happen next year, Buck, when Kamala

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Speaker 1: So if they were going to order a hit, this

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Speaker 1: Clay mentioned this at the top. I do want to

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Speaker 1: get to this in the second hour of the program

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Speaker 1: with all of you. There are two Nordstrom stores, or

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Speaker 1: I should say there were Nordstrom you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: them down because they just can't. The theft is so

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Speaker 1: this is this is anarchic third world stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is what you would expect to be going on

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Speaker 2: Just really wonder we were talking about this a little

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Speaker 2: San Francisco residents because I believe in the most recent election,

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Speaker 2: seven percent of San Franciscan's voted Republican, and.

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Speaker 1: One hundred percent of them probably lie to their friends

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Speaker 1: about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're talking about a city that is more

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Speaker 1: What do they say, eight of themselves? I mean, I

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Speaker 1: worked for the Intelligence Division of the NYPD for eighteen

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Speaker 1: set police policy, and let me pick the prosecutors there,

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Speaker 1: I could clean San Francisco up and you could too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what Rudy Giuliani basically did, right.

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Speaker 1: You just have to have the mandate from the people

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Speaker 1: and the will to do what is necessary. This is

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Speaker 1: not complicated. You clean it up, you enforce the law,

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Speaker 1: you have people be accountable for the stuff that they do.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I also wanted to get to this

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Speaker 1: clay because we talked yesterday a bit about the border.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get into the border a lot more next week.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have Stephen miller on who was Trump's top

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Speaker 1: border advisor, just a very sharp, squared away guy, friend

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Speaker 1: of the show. And we're gonna have Julio Rosas, who's

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Speaker 1: gonna be down at the border for the expiration of

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Speaker 1: title forty two. Did you see Kari Jean Pierre what

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Speaker 1: she said yesterday? Percent decline? Can we play clip one?

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Speaker 1: So everyone, here's does the Biden administration live in a

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Speaker 1: truly alternate reality on a range of issues, but specifically

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Speaker 1: on the southern border. Play clip one.

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Speaker 3: He has tools that he's used to make sure that

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Speaker 3: we do this, We actually deal with the immigration system

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Speaker 3: in a humane way, in a in a way that

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Speaker 3: is that actually deals with what we're seeing at the border,

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Speaker 3: and that's why you've seen the Paroli program be so successful.

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Speaker 3: It has it has when it comes to illegal migration,

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Speaker 3: you've seen it come down by more than ninety percent,

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Speaker 3: and that's because of the actions that this president has taken.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is I saw recently there's a clip

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Speaker 1: going around of Jordan Peterson where he talks about the

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Speaker 1: different kinds of lies and talks about anti truth. Anti

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Speaker 1: truth being the exact furthest opposite of the truth, right,

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Speaker 1: not just a lie of omission or anything else. This

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Speaker 1: is anti truth from the Biden administration that the border

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Speaker 1: down ninety percent is the opposite of reality.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be impossible to defend. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to be the number one story even on

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Speaker 2: MSNBC and CNN.

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Speaker 1: That's how bad it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Next week when Title forty two is officially removed, there

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Speaker 2: are already tens of thousands of people that are preparing

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Speaker 2: to come across the border. You know this buck the

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Speaker 2: amount of sharing that's going to go on throughout Latin America.

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Speaker 2: Of hey, the United States border is officially open, now,

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Speaker 2: it's already spreading like crazy throughout those countries, the number

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Speaker 2: of people that are walking. This is always the time

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Speaker 2: when the travel is easier. This is going to be

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Speaker 2: an unmitigated disaster for Joe Biden next week, and even

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Speaker 2: MSNBC is going to have to cover it.

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Speaker 1: They're going to lie to you about what has been

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Speaker 1: happening and what is happening. They're going to pretend that

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Speaker 1: they are bothered by the massive influx of illegals that

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Speaker 1: they have encouraged for two years. But we will tell

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Speaker 1: you the truth, and we will get the word out

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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to the governor instead of Oklahoma. In

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Speaker 1: just a moment,