1 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen to a smoke filled edition 2 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: of No Fouls Given, of course, presented by Prize Picks. 3 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Download Prize Picks right now. 4 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: Use the promo code nfg at sign out to get 5 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: a nice promotion. I'm joined as always by my guys, 6 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: Danny Green, Paul Pierce, I'm Big, Kase Lambray. 7 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: Let's get right. 8 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: Into the show, right into it, right into it. 9 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 2: They said smoke was dead in the NBA. 10 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: Man, my guy, Dennis Schroder is trying to single handedly 11 00:00:58,320 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: bring it back. 12 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,680 Speaker 2: He was. It was reported by Sham. 13 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: Sharani of ESPN that he was suspended for three games 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 1: for trying to strike Luka Doncic. 15 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:09,199 Speaker 2: After the game. 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 17 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: During the game, Donco Schroeder, you should have signed that contract, 18 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: which is a reference to that one hundred something million 19 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: dollars deal. 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 4: That it was like eighty or something like that he 21 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 4: turned out. 22 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it was close to like one ninety or 23 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: whatever that the Lakers had offered him way back in 24 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: like twenty one that he turned down. 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 2: They continue to go back and forth throughout the game. 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: Schroeder told him at one point, I'm gonna beat your ass. 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: Quote you can read the list of people on the 28 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: internet was doing the lip reading and said that, and 29 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: they said, so what's been reported that forty minutes after 30 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: the game was over, the buzzer had sounded Schroeder. 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: Saw Luca the Changer. 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, he saw him in the tunnel and he said, Yo, 33 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: you can't call me a bitch. 34 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: Uh and h. Everything is all good. 35 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: And the MDA had concluded that Schroeder attempted to strike 36 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: Luka Doncic. 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 4: You don't get three games for attempting. 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: To do however, one he got three games. Two on 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: Shams's social media posts. Then Shooter actually commented and set 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: attempting with the eyes emoji and the laughing like a 41 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: reference to like, no, I didn't attempt to put hands 42 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: on this dude, hands on, bro. Yeah, he got a 43 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: three games. You know, Crypto is a pretty enclosed environment. 44 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure nobody had their phones out, but there's definitely 45 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: security footage that. 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, and always in a tunnel, definitely. It wasn't like 47 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: the back like in the back of the it's in 48 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 4: a regular tunnel. 49 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 2: TMZ, get the work. 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 3: We need that, we need that. 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 2: Just your general thoughts on this, Danny. 52 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 4: The three games is crazy. 53 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: Seems like a lot. 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 4: Especially for something that wasn't on. He wasn't in the game, 55 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, This wasn't like I 56 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 4: don't want to say it's not an NBA turns, but 57 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 4: like you're not at work at this point. Work is 58 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 4: over sure, so and there's no like he's pressing charges. 59 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 4: It's no like core, you know what I'm saying. Like, 60 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 4: so if he was to get suspended maybe like one game, 61 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 4: but three games with smacking somebody in the back tunnel 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 4: as wild to me, but good for them as standing 63 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 4: on business. I mean, I don't promote violence, but I 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: do promote like, if you got to make some my respect, 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 4: you so be it, bro. And how you see fit 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 4: if you gotta slap shot somebody sometime. I mean, I wish, 67 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 4: I wish we could go back to the old school 68 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 4: days were. 69 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 5: That used to happen a lot when I'm playing, right, 70 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 5: they used to go in the back, everybody meeting up 71 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 5: in the back. 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 3: That was the thing. It was all right in the back. 73 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: That happened a lot. But I've played and that never 74 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 3: got reported. 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 2: You know what. 76 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 4: I'm back in the day for It was like people 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 4: suing people like you're able to slap somebody going about 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 4: your day sometimes like the Will Smiths Christ Rock thing 79 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 4: like you should never do on that platform. Sure, but 80 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 4: sometimes you got smack, motherfucker, just keeping let them know, 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: like yo, that used to be say okay, but it 82 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 4: was not highly I think. 83 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 2: People weren't surprised when God's fought. 84 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 4: That was just it happened. It was just happened to fight, 85 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 4: even at the park. Keep going right back out of life. 86 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 4: Part of life, man, not not today, not today's world. 87 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: So before all of this got reported, people I had 88 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: seen these clips going around that Shrewd and Luca were 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: like Shooter was was clearly like really upset. 90 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 4: This is something brewin. This has definitely been brewing, probably 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,479 Speaker 4: since the summertime. Like you know, they play each other 92 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 4: every year all year long in the summertime, and I'm 93 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 4: sure there was some flopping going. Who knows you're talking 94 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 4: and Luca talks with the best of Luca is known 95 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 4: to chat and nobody has slapped him yet. 96 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 5: So in facts, nothing is you like, I get it 97 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 5: with Shrewder because you're talking about a man paper. Yeah, 98 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 5: and that's a sensitive subject because he. 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 3: Lost out on a lot of money. You don't want 100 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: to hear that. 101 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 5: Yeah, you because you you wake up like and you 102 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 5: and you and you know he making money now, but 103 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: it ain't. That was his payd and he missed it. 104 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 5: And I think he got like the minimum the next 105 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 5: year or something that that instead of the. 106 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: Six. 107 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that kind of thing, that's like, that's that's 108 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 5: that's thing. And somebody he like, oh hold on, I 109 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 5: got to stand on this. That's almost like messing with 110 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: somebody girl or something like when you talk about a 111 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 5: dude paper deeply, especially when you lose the money that 112 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 5: you had. 113 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 2: It's not like saying, oh, you're overpaid, because if. 114 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 4: You paid, ain't cool. 115 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 5: I love you the pretty much called you because he 116 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 5: called you a dummy for not getting that bread standing 117 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 5: in there like it's like insulting like to him. And 118 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 5: I felt shrewd on that. And so you know, Luca, 119 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 5: to check you, to check that is asking. 120 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: Fast because to me, if you're gonna do that, I 121 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: think you gotta be ready to fight, if you're gonna 122 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: like try to sort of emasculate somebody. 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 4: And then he said he tested him, like you ain't 124 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: gonna do ship like right in a very public man. 125 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, oh you think I am all right? 126 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 2: Also, Luca, you're way bigger than this dude. You should 127 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 2: be able to lay this dude down. 128 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: Man size do not matter when to come to hands 129 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 4: man fight. 130 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 3: He wasn't. 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 4: But do you see Luca as a fighter? Probably not. 132 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:37,400 Speaker 4: I don't see Shorulder as a fighter either, But I 133 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: don't see lucas somebody's taking boxing. 134 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: I feel like Shrewd has been in more fights in 135 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: his life than Luca because Shrewd is annoying too. 136 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: We know that. 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he's gotten into a bunch of people's skin 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: his whole career. 139 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 2: He's been doing this ross. He had a thing with 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: Jeff Tigue. 141 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a point guard in the league 142 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: he hasn't had a thing with. 143 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 4: It's mostly smaller guys. Man always like dude. So again, 144 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 4: he's probably at overseas. He played in different countries and 145 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 4: definitely he's got and I'm sure Luca is not. He's 146 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,440 Speaker 4: been a part of some things have happened, but I 147 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 4: just don't see him being a guy that's like boxing 148 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 4: or m m A or no ship like that. 149 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: So you think it makes sense that Dennis Shrewder would 150 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: beat Luka Doncic yup. 151 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 5: I'm just going off their demeanors. You know, when I 152 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 5: look at both of them on heart, I'm looking at Luca. 153 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 5: He was kind of laid back with the ship and 154 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 5: and Shroeder was kind of angry, and I think it 155 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 5: kind of I think he kind of went up to Luca. 156 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: This is my version. He probably went up to looking like, yeah, 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 3: you know, he was talking that ship. 158 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 5: And then it was like it wasn't like no, like 159 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And so then it got 160 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 5: broke up real quick. Like if they both knew it 161 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 5: was about to be a squabble, maybe Luca would have 162 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 5: handled him a little different. But he's just just like 163 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 5: what you're saying out there, called him off guard. 164 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 3: He wasn't overly angry and was like that's what I 165 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: picture happened. 166 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 2: I think if you're Luca and you you did all of. 167 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 4: That, like you kind of gotta be on and somebody 168 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 4: walks up to you, gotta know you gotta be on point. 169 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 2: After all of the ship y'all did during the game, he's. 170 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: Been He's talked a lot of ship to a lot 171 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 4: of people. Yes, and he knows how the NBA is. 172 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: Most guys are not gonna fight. Nobody wants to get fined, 173 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 4: Nobody wants to get suspended, especially on the court. Behind 174 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: closed door is a little different. 175 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 5: So yeah, you know, to his I think he got 176 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 5: something off three games. You got something he had to 177 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 5: There wasn't. 178 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 4: No yeah, but three games is crazy for behind the scenes. 179 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 3: He's got somebody was serious. 180 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: Somebody got that. 181 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: Because the league office definitely got it. 182 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 4: But I don't think either one of the fighters. But 183 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 4: I think Short is more of a fighter than Luca is. Again, 184 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 4: Luca's gotten the scuffles of people, and I don't see 185 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: him with the aggressiveness. It's more of you ain't gonna 186 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: do ship type what I'm saying. He's gonna keep his money, 187 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: not get fine like a bunch of people I feel 188 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: like always trying to go out Lucas. 189 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: On the court. It's the teammates. Your teammates are kind 190 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: of ready while all of this is happening. Right after 191 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: the game, motherfucker's probably was like, yeah, you know, that 192 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: wasn't about the teammates. 193 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: Wasn't ready to sort of there each other from ship 194 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: the euro You. 195 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 3: Know what I mean real and another thing. 196 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 5: You can't talk to me like that, not you, you. 197 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: Can't talk to me like that. I feel I think 198 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: if it was somebody. 199 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 5: Else, that wouldn't have went that truthfully, like you know 200 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 5: what I'm saying though, because I'm thinking about it, like 201 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: if if one of these European cads talking to me 202 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: like this, hold on, I got to stand on this one, Like. 203 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: If Page just started talking about it's different. 204 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 4: Still is European to shout from over there. I think 205 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 4: that's why his teammates probably just like let them like 206 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: a euro But it's also like you know, so like yeah, 207 00:09:58,800 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 4: let him, let him handle it. 208 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 2: How euro Cup beach like that? 209 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 3: Though I. 210 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: See him as a brother brother, so. 211 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: I think that has something to do with it too, 212 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 5: because I feel like if somebody else had said that, 213 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: it kind of would have a little been the same 214 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: thing on the court, but it wouldn't have escalated. 215 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 2: Like that, got you. 216 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I mean could have. Again, we don't know 217 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 4: what the footage was. We will see supposed to Dre 218 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 4: was there. 219 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow back on this because I got to 220 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: reach out to some of my Lakers sources to get. 221 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 2: With the girls. 222 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 4: Did just see the girls fight. It was it Houston 223 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 4: versus what's her name? We don't got that one. That's 224 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 4: there was they were squabbling out there. 225 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: Well we got even more smoke. It's just something was 226 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: in the air this weekend. Portland and the Houston Rockets 227 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: on Friday night. Uh, Portland first of all beat these 228 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: guys back to back and Houston Ford Tarry Easton added 229 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: to the drama surrounding Friday nights rematch by saying the 230 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: Blazers Denny Avdia it was hard to guard for one reason. 231 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: Zebras I he's getting a favorable whistle. 232 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 4: I mean he does leave the league in once. 233 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: He leads the league. Drives, he lives in the paint. 234 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 3: Start watching this guy. 235 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,079 Speaker 4: He gets to the fast bro He's very fast. And 236 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 4: you drive north south, He's going mostly north. He ain't 237 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: stopping one direction of you get his way. It's a 238 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 4: foul and a bucket or just he's getting to that 239 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 4: free throw line too soon. Man's athletic. He's getting to 240 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 4: that rim too. He's dunking. 241 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: Actually responded and said that the comments made him laugh 242 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: because he dropped. He has the most drives in the league. 243 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: He's aggressive. That's why he gets calls. Do you think 244 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: Denny Avdi is getting a special whistle? 245 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,439 Speaker 4: He's not an All Star like politically, I mean they're 246 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 4: probably he's aggressive, so he's the main guy, so he's 247 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 4: gonna have more eyes on him. But he ain't getting 248 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 4: Luca calls. No, he ain't getting I mean maybe Austin 249 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: ree I guess like Austin Reeves, like he's taking up 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 4: not free throw, so he's getting that. But because he's 251 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 4: so aggressive, like I said, he's going north north south, 252 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 4: he ain't going to east west. He's going right through 253 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 4: you or right by you and trying to dunk it 254 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 4: or get to that rim. And he's finishing through contact, 255 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 4: obviously leading the league and end ones. So I don't 256 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 4: think it's special Like Dave Portland ain't nobody like, he 257 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 4: ain't a big market or superstar. Is his first year 258 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: possibly be an All Star, which he should be, So 259 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 4: he ain't get no real heavy political whistle. 260 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: I mean the more you drive, I mean, the more 261 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 3: chances then somebody. 262 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,599 Speaker 5: I'm telling you that somebody's gonna reach in there or 263 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 5: contact is gonna be made. 264 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: All the contact is in the. 265 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 5: Paint first of all, that's where all the contact is 266 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 5: so if you drive you I mean because I left 267 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 5: the league and free throws attempts for a couple of years, 268 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 5: but I was aggressive. I'm getting to the paint. Eventually, 269 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 5: the reft is gonna be like damn, you're getting hit. 270 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 5: I mean three out of four times, like come on, 271 00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 5: like yeah, So, I mean I think the. 272 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 3: Rewards go to then, sir. 273 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: And you know when these guys we're in the air 274 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 5: where guys settle for threes and wonder why they don't 275 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 5: get to the line. 276 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 3: That's why in the case of Boston, I know, we 277 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: just don't get calls. We don't get we don't get nothing. 278 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 5: Candidate, we didn't get no free throw, get no free 279 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 5: throws other night versus the wow that was free throws 280 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 5: as a team. 281 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you guys something though, Is that 282 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 2: a real thing? Special whistles absolutely? 283 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 4: Come on, man, for the people that don't you. 284 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,319 Speaker 1: See, I've been on the court with it where you 285 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: feel like a god might have get gets nudged and. 286 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 2: For a different player, the zebra would have swallowed the whistle. 287 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've seen it. I've seen it. I actually felt 288 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 5: there a couple of times. I was like oh damn, 289 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 5: that was a found I got that. 290 00:13:54,040 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Because you've brought this up multiple times and certain 291 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: guys get certain calls, could you break it down for 292 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,559 Speaker 1: our viewers and listeners how that actually happens in practice? 293 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:11,079 Speaker 2: Like from your vantage point. 294 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 4: I don't happen. 295 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: I mean in practice, as the guy that had to 296 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: as the guy that had to guard the. 297 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 4: People that were getting certain guys, you knew you had 298 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 4: to keep your hands behind you, Like I mean, it 299 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 4: started with James, Like James Harden was good at getting 300 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 4: getting arm out. There's a couple of guys, I mean 301 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: even before him, like Kevin Martin, Like you know, I'm saying, 302 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 4: like there's a bunch of random guys that were good 303 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 4: at drunk contact and getting to the free throw line. 304 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 4: But the game as it evolved, the guys started to 305 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 4: manipulated a little bit differently. There's certain guys I'm trying 306 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: to remember his name. He wasn't really flopping or like 307 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 4: drawing the contact. But Corey mcghetty, he was like he 308 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 4: was really good at getting good Yeah, and he was 309 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: good at but he was mostly contact Like he was 310 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 4: the running back initiated. He initiated. So now even the 311 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 4: guys said that it's still but they initiated to get 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 4: the they're running too you and they'll throw the head back. 313 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 4: But for me, it's like, I don't mind if you're 314 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 4: gonna call those calls, just be consistent with it. And 315 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,520 Speaker 4: I'm not saying give me the exact same calls, but 316 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 4: let it be closed because I'll get a close out. 317 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: Guys will bump me or ride me out of damn 318 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 4: bounce and well watch you just fall out of bounds. 319 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, shit like that. Let guys 320 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 4: hand check you. I can't feed the post with album like. 321 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: That's where I have an issue. But if I do, 322 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, If I have my hand hair, 323 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 4: you're gonna call the foul. But there's a lot of stuff. 324 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: You mentioned Jimmy with somebody when you were guarding them. 325 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: Bruh, you had to be very tough. Maybe it has damn. 326 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 4: I mean, there's certain guys that's damnar impossible when they 327 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 4: got it going. But Jimmy was one of those guys. 328 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 4: Because and Joelle, I feel like they're bullies, but they 329 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 4: also know how to they know how to, you know, 330 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: manipulate the contact a little bit, so like he's gonna 331 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 4: be physical with you, but if you get too physical, 332 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 4: he might Oh you know what I'm saying. It's like, damn, 333 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 4: I can't even get physical, and so they know how 334 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: to bullyball you, and then they else know how to 335 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 4: sell and sell a call when you get too physical 336 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 4: with them. So you can't even you know, you can't 337 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: have no defensive space. Like you've seen him guarding the finals. 338 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: I'm like this nigga drive right by the rim and 339 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 4: dunk that. 340 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: I'm like terrible, not even manipulated the refs in this 341 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 5: air more so than James Harden. Yeah, I mean I 342 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 5: saw guys literally at the top of the key with 343 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 5: their hands. 344 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 4: In their back garden behind them. They still behind them. 345 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 5: Like I've never seen that in the history, Like they 346 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 5: just know just any contact. 347 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: Did so you mentioned that you you let the league 348 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: in free throw attempts a couple of years. Did you 349 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: ever feel like you had to accentuate contact to make 350 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: the refs understand, because like you were one of the 351 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: stronger people, bigger people at your position, so maybe you 352 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: had to be like, look, I'm getting foul. I know 353 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm big and strong, but I'm getting fouled, right. 354 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: I always figured like because it was a more drive 355 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 5: league when I played, because like, if I missed my first 356 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 5: one two threes, I'm not even looking at the three 357 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: point or no more. Yeah, so I'm focused on like, 358 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 5: let me get into the lane, get an easy one, 359 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 5: let me get into the lane, possibly get foul, let 360 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 5: me see something going from the free throw line. And 361 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 5: that's how it really got me going. But then you say, hey, 362 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 5: it's that I can get to the paint all night. 363 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 5: So that was the point of emphasis, Like, all right, 364 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 5: we're just gonna drive them. 365 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: They can't. They can't cover the paint. Man. 366 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 5: That was just my mentality though. I think that's a 367 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,920 Speaker 5: mentality thing. 368 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: Definitely everything too. 369 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, more mid range. 370 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 4: I did more posting off and they didn't do a 371 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 4: lot of like before they changed this spot out kill. 372 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 3: Get put out the game. 373 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 5: If you choose tooot too many, like these jumpers they 374 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 5: take you been subbed these challenge three steps back? 375 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 3: Have you missed one or two of those? Your teammates 376 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 3: looking at. 377 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 5: You crazy, like, man, I just worked twenty seconds on 378 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 5: deepense for you to come out here and throw up 379 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 5: this ship. 380 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like now yeah, like. 381 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: Anybody like he's saying, like role players now have way 382 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 4: more freedom. 383 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, we better look. 384 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: To find this guy first, and we put something over 385 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 4: quick and we had to play. 386 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 3: You're gonna get that, You're gonna get that look, and 387 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: you might. 388 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 4: What is he doing out here? 389 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 2: Right? Just to round out this thing. 390 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: I do like the idea that Tarias and saying names 391 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: and saying how he. 392 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 2: Feels about it right, like, I like it reminded me. 393 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 4: I think that I think the media said the name 394 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 4: and asked him and he just said Zebra. If I'm 395 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 4: not mistaken, got you why he was name? Why is 396 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 4: the heart to guard zebra Z? I think that's your 397 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 4: three times. 398 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: I just like the idea that you know it's out there. 399 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: You know, it reminds me, not to this extent, but 400 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: when you know Isaiah was like Larry Bird. 401 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: Ain't really nice, like that he's white or whatever. It's 402 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,720 Speaker 2: crazy like, which was obviously wrong. 403 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: But I just liked the idea that players are outwardly 404 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: hating on each other because. 405 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: The competitive next year it was a competitiveness that we're. 406 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,439 Speaker 1: Always talking about how these guys their buddies you and 407 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: you know your on team Nike, your Team, Adidas, and 408 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: the Buddy Buddy. 409 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 2: So I like to see stuff like this. 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Danny and 442 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: myself went two and three, Paul went one and four. 443 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 2: We had a rare. 444 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 5: Tough weekend, tough weekends, first losing week, first losing day, 445 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 5: first time, first losing day. 446 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: So at the moment, I'm twenty three and ten Houston. 447 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: Let us down, bro Danny's. 448 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: Eighteen and fifteen. Paul is nineteen in fourteen. 449 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: Uh, just to review the ones that we messed up on, 450 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: KD more or less than twenty eight and a half. 451 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 2: Me and Danny had more Paul said less, he had thirty. 452 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 5: Damn uh that Danny, Yeah, please, thank you perfect Danny 453 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 5: more or less than twenty six and a half. 454 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Danny and I said more, Paul said less. He turned 455 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: back into a pumpkin. 456 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 4: Like Paul said crazy, a pumpkin night for him. 457 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Twenty more or less than twenty one and a half. 458 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: Danny and myself said less. Paul said more he had twenty. 459 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: He had twenty, and then Thompson more or less than 460 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: nineteen and a half. 461 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: That's crazy, we all said less. 462 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 2: Hi for him, bro, he had twenty four points. 463 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: Smith more or less than fourteen and a half thirteen 464 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: he came just closed one bucket short. 465 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: We all said more. 466 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: Damn yeah, we all said more. 467 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: Smith's that To me, I just I don't get him. 468 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to sow talent. 469 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 3: It's very up in the talented. 470 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 5: Yes, why Yeah, he got first option type of skill 471 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 5: and like man, he got first option type of game. 472 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 2: Got talent. 473 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: KD is done. I think we're gonna see a better 474 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:19,400 Speaker 3: version of number two. 475 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, but his offensive skills, he got the second best 476 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: offensive skills at the perimeter. 477 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: To me, it's just he does he doesn't have a 478 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: great instinct for scoring and sort of what they call. 479 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 2: Field for the game. 480 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, yeah, that's what I think he's lacking. 481 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: Uh. 482 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: But let's get into our favorite part of every single show, 483 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: and that's our Picks of the Night, presented by Prize Picks. 484 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: We have the nets at Dallas. Michael Porter Junior has 485 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: been on a tear this season, a career season, more 486 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: or less than twenty five and a half points. 487 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: I feel like if I say more, gonna have less, 488 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 4: it's gonna be again. I think that these two guys 489 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,959 Speaker 4: are gonna go off. It's gonna be that type of name. 490 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say more. 491 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:11,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with more as well. 492 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,200 Speaker 5: What about you, Paul twenty five and a half. He's 493 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 5: averaging about that, right, he's averaging. He has the ultimate 494 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 5: green light. I'll give him more. 495 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 2: That's that's that's what I feel like to uh. 496 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Cooper flag the rookie more or less than twenty one 497 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: and a half points. 498 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 4: He said he also has the green light as his 499 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 4: team right now. Ad has been out ad rumorous amount 500 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 4: of injuries throughout the tenure of being a Maverickstill, I'm 501 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: gonna say more. It's a show right now. 502 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with less. 503 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like, even though he's you know, he's 504 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,879 Speaker 1: playing well, twenty two points is still a decent amount, 505 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: you know. And what I like about Cooper Flag is 506 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: he's not the type of guy that forces the issue. 507 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: So even if he's not having it on offense, he's 508 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: gonna contribute in other ways. 509 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 2: But I'll take less than twenty. 510 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 5: I'm gonna go less. It's gonna be one of them 511 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: eighteen seven and eight games for him all. 512 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: Around, always always, Yeah, Brooklyn is in Brooklyn. 513 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 4: I'm going more. 514 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 1: Star Wars Cam Thomas more or less than fourteen and 515 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: a half points. 516 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 4: He's been very he's been very like this season kind 517 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 4: of mm hmm. And he's is he does he even 518 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 4: starting right off, I think he's coming off. 519 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: The Yeah, I like Cam offensively. I'm going more. 520 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go less. 521 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 2: I'm going more as well, just because he's gonna shoot. 522 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 3: He's gonna shoot. 523 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 4: Get the matter of matter of minutes play. 524 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: What about Clay Thompson, the legend more or less than 525 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 1: thirteen and a half points. 526 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: Damn, I'm gonna go less man, I'm going less as well. 527 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, this Brooklyn and there's no d in Brooklyn, so 528 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 5: I'm going more for they're gonna get about five three. 529 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 5: I'm just needing five threes. I need about five threes 530 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 5: from class. 531 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 4: But certainly not might kick it. She's out there. 532 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 2: They might do to Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 533 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 4: His legs might be going both ways. 534 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: Guys, when somebody's girl is there, they might be trying 535 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: to do too much and end up messing up there again, 536 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: you know. But yeah, I'm I'm going less for Klay 537 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: Thompson at last, but not least. 538 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 2: Naji Marshall more or less than fifteen. 539 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a lot for menage. 540 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 2: It seems seems like all or. 541 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 4: Less man order. 542 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go more. 543 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 4: No, he but he does, he does. He could get 544 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 4: some opportunity to get shot up. 545 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go less, go less. 546 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: Those were our picks of the night, presented by Prize Picks. 547 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: As always next. 548 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: Step the trade rumors never stopped, y'all. It's been reported 549 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: again by my guy, Sham Sharani of ESPN that the 550 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: Grizzlies for the first time, or excuse. 551 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: Me not, Schamp's Michael Wright of ESPN. 552 00:25:54,720 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 1: The Grizzlies for the first time are telling teams they're open. 553 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,160 Speaker 2: To entertaining public Yeah. 554 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: John Moran offers, I'm glad you said that, Danny, because 555 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't think this has been a secret. 556 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: Like the first time they've got a phone call about. 557 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: Him, like, yeah, we'll be open to moving on from 558 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: from Jah. I think this is definitely a major step 559 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: in terms of them putting it out there publicly, like 560 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: we're fine with people knowing that this guy's on the market. 561 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 2: Uh. 562 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 1: I just think I think it's kind of obvious that 563 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: they've come to the end of the world with Jah Clear. 564 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 4: I mean, he's his the way, he's his approach, way 565 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: he's played some of these games. He don't look like 566 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: he is excited as he used to be, Like totally 567 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: different swag that they have now than two or three 568 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 4: years ago. And I think it's more of a domino effect. 569 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: A lot of everybody else around him is gone, all 570 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 4: of the homies is out, Like it's a totally different 571 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,920 Speaker 4: team as a younger group of kids. Guys like show 572 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 4: gets along with them, but they ain't. They ain't his dogs. 573 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,880 Speaker 4: They had a he had a set of road dogs, 574 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 4: but they were good top in the West with a 575 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 4: really good group, and that's that's not the same end. 576 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 4: Coaching staff is very different. I don't know if they're 577 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 4: not saying they should consult him, but you should at 578 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 4: least aqu you make a move like that with the 579 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: coaching staff, you bet at least make sure he gets 580 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 4: along with the new coach or they got you have 581 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 4: on staff. So yeah, I think it's the writing has 582 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 4: been on the wall. 583 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 5: Bro. 584 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 585 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 5: Man, Listen, when a player is not happy, especially one 586 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 5: of his talent and caliber play, he just needs to 587 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 5: go somewhere where he's happy. He's clearly not happy in 588 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 5: memphisis I think this time is run his course? And 589 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 5: you know, if I can think of any better place, 590 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 5: uh maybe Miami, just culture. 591 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 4: Wise, they can't do it, then nobody can. 592 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 3: I mean just culture wise. 593 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 5: I think a shifting just him kind of refreshing his 594 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: brand and who he. 595 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 3: Is as a player. 596 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 5: Remind people that listen, he was a guy that we 597 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 5: were talking about probably being the face of the league. 598 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 1: Like Sneakers off the show's still doing. 599 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 4: I think like a good culture fit for him. Like 600 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 4: if they can't do it, then But to me, honestly, 601 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 4: I would love to see him team up with somebody 602 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 4: or a really good team that actually needs, like needs 603 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 4: a point guard like a Minnesota got you. I'm saying 604 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 4: like him and Man would be will be solid. They'd 605 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 4: have to give a lot they don't have a lot 606 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 4: of assets to do so, but it would be cool 607 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 4: to see him like be able to to do that 608 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,400 Speaker 4: like Orlando. 609 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,719 Speaker 5: Orlando needs a point and be surrounding some package around 610 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 5: him and Franz because Franz to be healthy for them. 611 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: They can. 612 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,479 Speaker 4: You got one of them? 613 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 5: Man, No, you keep you build around Polo and say 614 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 5: Joah Moran, but you gotta let like France and somebody 615 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 5: else go. 616 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: I'm Franz. I think I might, I might, I don't. 617 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: I don't. I can, I don't don't I can trade 618 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 3: him for Joab Moran. 619 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: I think there was a time where this wouldn't even 620 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: be a conversation in terms of Y'ah Morano and Franz Vodka. 621 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I think we've gotten to the point where Orlando would 622 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 1: be like, Look, Franz Wagner is a model citizen for sure. 623 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,200 Speaker 4: I issues with him. I'm not saying I would not 624 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 4: none of them off the table. I'm saying I had 625 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: to choose between Polo. I just think joh won more 626 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 4: games with Franz than they have Apollo. 627 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I think. 628 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: I think Ja is having the worst shooting season of 629 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: his life twenty five. 630 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: He's in the twenties from three. 631 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Uh, Orlando's historically had issues making those very shots. So like, 632 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: for me, I'm not crazy about the idea of Ja 633 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: over there. 634 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:39,959 Speaker 2: What I like about Miami. 635 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: Is that we've seen what they've done for eccentric players before, 636 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: like Dion Waiters, like Hassan Whiteside, and you know, the 637 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: list kind of goes on when it comes to guys 638 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: that had trouble passed coming to Miami and just buying 639 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: into the program a lot of strength training, the sort 640 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: of conditioning mentality. Yeah, all of those kind of guys 641 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: that they turned into you know, real bona fide stars. 642 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: But Joab's not even that kind of guy. Like we're 643 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: talking about a guy who finished fifth. 644 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 2: In the MVP voting. Fifth is six like three years ago. 645 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about a guy that was considered 646 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: to be at the top of the sport, not something 647 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: like cast off who was like talented but never realized 648 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 1: like we've seen John Morant. 649 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: Be you know, one of the most talented people on 650 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: the NBA court. 651 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: So it's just kind of crazy to watch Memphis get 652 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: to this point because, you know, as a small as 653 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: a small market franchise, it seemed like they were attached 654 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: at the hip with job because he was kind of 655 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: their their nest egg, like drawing people in, getting people 656 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: in the stadium. 657 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: The fans seem to be super into it. 658 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: You know, they finally built a winner after the grint 659 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: and grind thing, rebuilding from that, and for them to 660 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: you know, finally have a guy that seemed to love it, 661 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,240 Speaker 1: love being there, and to get to the point where 662 00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: it's just like, yes, it's almost like a fire sale. 663 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 664 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 1: And you know another thing that I'll say to you 665 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: guys this off season after they they moved on from 666 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 1: Desmond Bane, it felt like a put up or shut 667 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 1: up yeah season in terms of Memphis with Joabs, like, 668 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: all right, you want everybody in the world to know 669 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: you're some kind of superstar major you know, NBA property. 670 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 2: All right, go out and do it this year. 671 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: Since you're supposed to be like that, we should at 672 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 1: least be a forty six win type of team. If 673 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: you're that person for US forty eight wins we should 674 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,000 Speaker 1: go out and get forty this year. 675 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's been the opposite of that, so. 676 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 4: It's also not available as much. 677 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a little bit. 678 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 4: Injuries or injuries, had some CAF issues he's had. He's 679 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 4: had injuries throughout most of his career. 680 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: And when you watch it, he doesn't look as explosive, 681 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: like what's the last time. 682 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 4: But he did say last year on somebody, he said 683 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 4: he wasn't dunking themore. That was last year and then 684 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: he did that backwards sit Boston and after that he 685 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 4: stopped dunk. But maybe it's by choice because he does 686 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,479 Speaker 4: hit the ground a lot and every time he's gone up. 687 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 4: I mean, you see with lou Dort when fell on 688 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 4: his face. I think that was was that in the playoffs. 689 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 4: That was in the playoffs and they was on a 690 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 4: nice little run. He had to sit out after that 691 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,160 Speaker 4: for a couple of games and they got swept or 692 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 4: gentleman swept. But I'm trying to think of other situations 693 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 4: that might make sense for him, Like I mean, I 694 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 4: was I mentioned inside of Miami, but like, is there 695 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: any other place that you look at and like they 696 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 4: need a point guard and you think it could do 697 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 4: you see Houston. 698 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,400 Speaker 1: Houston is that's good because of the lack of shooting 699 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: and honest. 700 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 4: But I don't think the. 701 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: Definitely buying low on just a talent play because they 702 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: just so sorely lacking in talent. 703 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,479 Speaker 2: But it's that kind of thing. 704 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: It's like a Milwaukee, It's like a Sacramento. 705 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: It's like the Nets. 706 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,719 Speaker 1: Being like, yo, why don't we get some name recognition, 707 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: a great talent upgrade here? 708 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's something like that. 709 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: Or again, Miami just having a track record of reclamation 710 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 1: by Charlotte Charlotte. 711 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 3: You know that's a lotteral move. 712 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 713 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, though, yeah, let's do it. Both guys have change 714 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 2: the scenery. 715 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 3: They both need to change. 716 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 2: Also, Michael C. 717 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: Wright is reporting this, and you know, Mike writes, my guy, 718 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: he's one of the most plugged in guys in our industry. 719 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: He's reporting that Jahn Moran. 720 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: Is telling players around the NBA and former coaches that 721 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: he won't play for the Grizzlies and his November suspension 722 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: impact relationships with his teammates. 723 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: So this seems to be just done. Yeah, stick of 724 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 2: forking this thing. 725 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 4: I mean we're in January, so if he's been filling 726 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 4: way since November and them actually saying like, oh, they're 727 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: receiving phone calls as if this is a new like again. 728 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think but management can also see that 729 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: the writing is on the wall, right, It's like, all right, 730 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: this is two months into. 731 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 4: This thing that happens, but it happened in November. 732 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: Maybe they thought, you know, people recon reconciliation, you know 733 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: how like people be going on breaks with. 734 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 2: Their girl and then they get back to it. Maybe 735 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: they thought this was just like a break. 736 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 3: This is the thing too. 737 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 5: So like if you part with Jah, you just parted 738 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,799 Speaker 5: with Bang, right, does that put Jared Jackson on the 739 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 5: on the block also, you're going to a full rebuild. 740 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: That's that's the question. I think Tripp is still young 741 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 4: enough to be a part of that. I mean, even 742 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 4: though it's been there like eight nine years, he's still 743 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 4: wanting like twenty six, twenty seven. 744 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 745 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: So here's the thing about Jared Jackson, who I like 746 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 2: as a player. He seems like a great kid. 747 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Like I've heard nothing but good things about came from 748 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: people that I know around the Memphis situation. 749 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 2: You don't need to trade them to rebuild. You're doing 750 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: this bad right now, as. 751 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 1: You plaze all the time, at the end of the day, 752 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: just get some young guys that have. 753 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 5: An opportunity to get into this draft more pure. 754 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think you go. 755 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 2: I think you're fine with the rebuild with Jared Jackson. 756 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 2: It's not one of those things. 757 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 1: It's like, you know, just imagine the team had Shack 758 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: or Timmy or KG. 759 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,279 Speaker 2: You can't rebuild with somebody that good like you're gonna win, 760 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. 761 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 1: Jared Jackson just isn't that type of player in terms 762 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 1: of singular impact individually. 763 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 2: So I would I would be. 764 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 4: Fine with keeping just like to see him somewhere he 765 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 4: could play some meaningful bad basket. 766 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 2: And I think he would. 767 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 1: He would generate a lot of interest and get a major. 768 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 4: Hall because of how bad the team is, they can 769 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: get those pieces for cheaper, Like you can go out 770 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 4: there and get them for cheaper. And again, he was 771 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 4: a Defensive Player of the Year. Uh, I mean one 772 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 4: Defensive Player the Year candidate multiple years multiple times. So yeah, 773 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 4: it was an All Star the Year. So like, if 774 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 4: you can get an All Star big, it's picking pop 775 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 4: big and do something surround him with something like you 776 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 4: can be he can really add some value to certain groups. 777 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if you're in the market for a 778 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: special kind of big you know, and I think he's 779 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: versatile enough because of the inside outside nature of his game. 780 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, we've been hearing about Detroit maybe one to upgrade. Uh, 781 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: the Lakers obviously sorely needing big man help everybody that's 782 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: everybody that's been in the market for a d should 783 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: obviously be in the market for Jared Jackson. So that 784 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: would be interesting and nothing has come out about that yet. 785 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think he I think he would fetch 786 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: They could get a lot for him in terms of 787 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: draft compensation, at least three picks. 788 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 4: Teams that are trying to give them probably don't have 789 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 4: the draft compensation though. 790 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Lakers don't have the draft Clippers. 791 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 4: Like the Clippers, like we're trying to get some youth, 792 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 4: me trying to get Gi and Jaron. They got nothing, 793 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 4: but yeah, but they need that. 794 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the Clippers just don't don't have any of that stuff. 795 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 4: But yeah, the team got Okay, see. 796 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,720 Speaker 1: Okay, for sure, I wonder if yeah, I wonder if 797 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 1: him and I guess him and Check could obviously easily 798 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 1: played played next to each other, and I think both 799 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: of them struggling. 800 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 4: Would trade one. You probably trade you. 801 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 2: No, I don't think okay se would do that. 802 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not doing I don't think they would do that. 803 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 2: But if they could, and you know, to make their 804 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 2: team very expensive because Jared Jackson is signed way out, so. 805 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 4: Only way to make the money, like, you'd have to 806 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,399 Speaker 4: probably trade that or they could. 807 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:37,959 Speaker 2: They could. 808 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,959 Speaker 4: They got a lot of pieces and picks. They could. 809 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, they could probably do the Heart and Stein thing 810 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: because his dealer is thirty million dollars. 811 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 4: And you think Jar is a better player than he's 812 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 4: He's probably a better player than Hart and Sign. But 813 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 4: is he a better fit for that group than Hart 814 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 4: and s? 815 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: I think so. He's just he's just a better player. 816 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 1: And again he's he's like very versatile. 817 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 4: I don't know if he's as good as a passer 818 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 4: like Hartenstegin is a great screen of great pass, a 819 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 4: great rebounder. 820 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think what like, because he's more of 821 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,279 Speaker 1: a threat to score, he doesn't have to be as 822 00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 1: good of a pass, so he's going to impact how 823 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: defenses want to play. And I think the most important 824 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,319 Speaker 1: thing with him and Chad have kind of proven they 825 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: struggle when they're alone, sort of big man anchoring the defense. 826 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 4: Now together, that's something rebound because. 827 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 2: These guys. 828 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,040 Speaker 1: But again, okayc doesn't seem to be the type of team, 829 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: They don't seem to be interesting upgrading them their roster. 830 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 2: But I think everybody should be taking a look at. 831 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 4: At Jared Jackson for shuret like Chicago. 832 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: On the Heat. No, yeah, I think Bam you can't. 833 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: You can't trade Bam and what he means to the 834 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: team and just spiritually, and. 835 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 4: I think you try to keep Bam and Talle Hero. 836 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 4: Those are the two guys you try to like. Those 837 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: are your cornerstone guys. 838 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: And even Talent Herro he's. 839 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 4: Still I'll be okay with it, but you'd at least 840 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 4: keep Normal, like you gotta keep normalalit. You gotta keep 841 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,120 Speaker 4: one of the two. And I think most of the 842 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 4: time you would keep Tyler because he's just been there 843 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 4: norm it's good, But I don't know if I would 844 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 4: keep him up with Tyler. Tyler's younger. 845 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: So let's move on to some You know a team 846 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference that's doing the opposite of Memphis. 847 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: Memphis is on the way to a rebuild tanking in 848 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 1: the standings. 849 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 2: The Timberwolves, told you are on the rise. 850 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: They recently beat the Spurs in a close game Sunday 851 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: night to bring them to twenty six and fourteen on 852 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: the season. 853 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 2: That's good for fourth in the West. And you know what, 854 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,200 Speaker 2: do you know? 855 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: You look up and the Wolves are one of the 856 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: elite teams in the Western Conference. 857 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 2: Y'all. 858 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 5: That has officially put his name back into the hat 859 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 5: of MVP candidates as you see them rising in the standings. 860 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 5: I told you, man, it matters that this team has 861 00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:02,320 Speaker 5: been together. It matters that they had a couple of 862 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 5: deep playoff runs, and they're gonna be a problem. I 863 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 5: said this last week. I said, I think they're better 864 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 5: than Houston, like if you get them in a playoff series, 865 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,480 Speaker 5: because for their familiarity with one another, having experienced, they're 866 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 5: gonna be They're gonna be a tough out. They've been 867 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 5: a tough out the last couple of years. And I 868 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 5: think they're just gonna continue to climb under the radar. 869 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 5: They under the radar yet because we hain't really talked 870 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,399 Speaker 5: about Minnesota or or a man this year, but he's 871 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 5: quietly he's looking up. He's averaging twenty nine a game, 872 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 5: twenty eight. Twenty nine got his team back into the 873 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 5: into the top four, and you know, back into the 874 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,839 Speaker 5: MVP candidate process. When you look at Joker going down 875 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 5: and you look at with Shae has been doing, you 876 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 5: gotta say that man's in there. 877 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,160 Speaker 2: He's shooting for. 878 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying, saying nobody's talking about him as 879 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 5: an MVP candidate. 880 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 4: He's killing now. He's doing what he's supposed to do. 881 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,800 Speaker 4: Five was that? Five assistance, five rebounds, rebounds, three assist. 882 00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 4: They're good again. Play last the other night against Portland 883 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:16,800 Speaker 4: he sat out again right single set out Shango. Yeah, 884 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 4: I can't put them about like I think that in 885 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 4: a playoff series it'll be a good matchup. But I 886 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 4: can't put them ahead of Houston just yet. But they're 887 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,919 Speaker 4: they're better than they're playing good right now. 888 00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean they've beaten some quality teams. 889 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 4: Good for that. Spurs up a lot of Utah, so 890 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,279 Speaker 4: Cleveland Boston probably shouldn't be in too. They have some 891 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 4: free throw they're a young team. Again, I think Spurs 892 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 4: are good too, but I'm just not fully. I think 893 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 4: they're under the like that tier still there, but they're good, 894 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,279 Speaker 4: they're known to do that. 895 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 5: Then, so who's in your top tier? You got Okay, 896 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 5: see Denver for sure. Yeah, and then after that they 897 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:56,879 Speaker 5: don't belong in that next tier. 898 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 4: I got San Antonio, Houston and they're probably in there. 899 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,920 Speaker 3: Teams definitely. 900 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: I think they're partfinitely in that mixed. 901 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 4: You gotta put the eight nine. Those guys matter a 902 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 4: lot in the playoffs. Minnesota, I don't see an eight nine. 903 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 4: That's like, you know what I'm saying, A seven or 904 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 4: even exept like nas is good. But like off the bench, 905 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,360 Speaker 4: I'm not seeing enough depth or help in a seven 906 00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 4: game series for But in the said regular season one 907 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 4: game off they could beat They could beat the best 908 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 4: of them in the one game. 909 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 910 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, they've got obvious flaws in terms of secondary ball. 911 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 4: That second tier. They'll be in a second tier with 912 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,600 Speaker 4: with Santonio and Houston, and I put Minnesota in there. 913 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 2: In terms of the secondary ball handling and playmaking. 914 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: You know, that's that's obviously an issue right now because 915 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: as we've mentioned a bunch of times about Conley, you know, 916 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:47,799 Speaker 1: he's at the end of his career. He's giving him 917 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 1: nineteen minutes a game like it's more than reasonable to 918 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: ask him to do more. Botes Hoghland has had some 919 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: moments here and there. 920 00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 2: Obviously Rod Diddling, Rob Dilliham. 921 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: They're trying to bring along upping his minutes and upping 922 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: his workloads at different. 923 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 2: Times, but that other times he's just been benched. 924 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 3: They need a guard. 925 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 2: Huh, yes, I think they do one more. 926 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 4: Guard is supposed to be the god. They need to 927 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 4: start him and Deleingham. They need to develop. 928 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,720 Speaker 2: They've this has been out there forever. 929 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: I think they've been linked to gods like Trey Jones, 930 00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: like just a stop. 931 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 2: Gap measure, like somebody who can just be competent. 932 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: Not necessarily you need to go out and get some 933 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: all star point guard, but somebody that can just spell 934 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:35,719 Speaker 1: in terms of ball handling duties and initiating offense and 935 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: letting Julius and and not have to carry that burden 936 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: constantly every possession. But the reason why I dig Minnesota 937 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:44,480 Speaker 1: is always going. 938 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: To be a threat because like Paul said, they have the. 939 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 1: Continuity, they have an identity in terms of their defense. 940 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 1: We know we've seen them ratchet it up and turn 941 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 1: into an elite defause, especially when you got and Jaden 942 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: Daniels Jaden McDaniels on the Remember that these guys when 943 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,640 Speaker 1: they when they really decide they want to strap. 944 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,719 Speaker 2: People, they're they're pretty incredible at it. 945 00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 1: And then you know, the back line has always been 946 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 1: one of their strengths. 947 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 2: I'm I always think Minnesota is a threat to me. 948 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 1: Just because they have he's young, He's able to shoulder 949 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,879 Speaker 1: that burden that they ask him to. I just want 950 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: I just hope Tim Connolly that GM is able to, 951 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: you know, pull a movie. 952 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 2: He's always been a really aggressive GM. 953 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 4: So who do you think And you're like, who is 954 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 4: it to be? Like A can't get a job? Like, 955 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 4: who do you think you're getting? 956 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 2: No, I think it's gonna it's gonna have to be. 957 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,720 Speaker 4: Like I'm saying, Darius maybe go to Cleveland is definitely 958 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 4: looking to make a move. They gotta make a movie. 959 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 4: I don't think that's too I don't think they have 960 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:40,880 Speaker 4: He's less than joh. 961 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: On the trademarket. 962 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: Darius Garland is fetching more than yeah. 963 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 2: Reputationally right now. His reputation, they. 964 00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 3: Don't even need that much. Like you get a guy 965 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:57,240 Speaker 3: like CJ. McCollum there something like that something something like that. 966 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you gonna look at Timber 967 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 3: was a little bit different. 968 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, a guy that could make an open shot, a 969 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: guy that can run some level of offense. 970 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 4: I think they need two pieces though. They need a 971 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 4: point guard, but they also need another, like a depth 972 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 4: piece off the bench. I think that's too But he's 973 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 4: not him and Dante and I feel like they're not 974 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 4: as consistent, Like they need another like a Elaite monk, 975 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 4: Like they need to find somebody. Go to Sacramento, find somebody, 976 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 4: some hidden saying, go. 977 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,560 Speaker 1: To Sacramento, try to figure out anything that isn't Zach Lavini. 978 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 4: Crazy. I like Zach's game, Bro. I think Zack is solid. Bro, 979 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,719 Speaker 4: He's just in bad situations. 980 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh, he's just constantly the situation just around him. Just 981 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 2: be bad. 982 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 4: It'd be bad, Bro, it's not winning situations. 983 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 3: What about Westbrook? Could he help them? 984 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 4: I think you help anybody. But I don't think he's 985 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:50,520 Speaker 4: the answer, though he's definitely. I think he's he's starting 986 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,520 Speaker 4: a Sacramento right now. Right he's more of an off 987 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:53,120 Speaker 4: the bench guy. 988 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 3: What I'm saying for Minnesota, off the bench, he could. 989 00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,000 Speaker 4: Give you some he can give you some solid minutes 990 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,479 Speaker 4: off the bench. 991 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,040 Speaker 1: We'll see what they can come up with. Like I said, 992 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 1: Tim Connley is proven. He's got a great track record 993 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,720 Speaker 1: from his time at Denver to even help him craft 994 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: this current Minnesota. 995 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 4: Team even quickly Toronto IQ. 996 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,240 Speaker 2: But again, that's a dude that's making like thirty five. 997 00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:18,600 Speaker 4: Million dollars, you know, Like, but he's cheaper than the 998 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 4: is he cheaper than the other ones. 999 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: He's cheaper than Jah for sure. But I don't know, 1000 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,280 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to get pretty creative. 1001 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, next up, we've come upon another felt like we're 1002 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: running the milestones every single week. 1003 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, Katie is climbing a lot of ke. 1004 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,480 Speaker 1: Drant just surpassed Wilt Chamberlain on Friday night, became the 1005 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:44,279 Speaker 1: seventh all time leading scorer in NBA history. 1006 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 4: You're gonna catch Dirk too. 1007 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: Thirty one thousand, four hundred and twenty points to pass Wilter. Still, Paul, 1008 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: where do you rank kd all time as a score? 1009 00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 2: In your opinion? Man? 1010 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 5: As a score, I mean you gotta put him in 1011 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,840 Speaker 5: the top five. Yeah, I think you have to. I 1012 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,839 Speaker 5: mean I think with his longevity with all he's kind 1013 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 5: of like came in and redefined what a score is 1014 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,839 Speaker 5: at the seventh foot with his he like it was 1015 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 5: like Dirk came in and was like kind of like 1016 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 5: changed the power forward. And then it was like KD 1017 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 5: like kind of like expanding on what kind of like 1018 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,400 Speaker 5: what Dirk was as far as a unicorn, you know 1019 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:28,959 Speaker 5: what I'm saying. 1020 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 3: It was just like that. 1021 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 5: Handle, that type of shot, with that type of speed 1022 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 5: and athleticism. 1023 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 3: Guards at the seven feet. You know, it's like, damn a. 1024 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: Lot of those gangly guys a lot of times it 1025 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: feels like they can't run at you gum at the 1026 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:44,839 Speaker 1: same time. 1027 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 2: But KD moved like he was five to eleven. It's incredible. 1028 00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 5: And then you got guys, sorry to start, but you 1029 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 5: now you got a whole generation that says, oh, he's 1030 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:53,800 Speaker 5: the next KD. 1031 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 3: He's an sts tall, lanky guys knocked. 1032 00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,760 Speaker 4: Down three said he got a lot of guys drafted 1033 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 4: the thing and the next KD. Like so many guys 1034 00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,440 Speaker 4: drafted because they thought he was the next Katy. I 1035 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,799 Speaker 4: got him at number two bro right behind Michael Jeffrey Jordan. 1036 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 4: I think so because of not he's one of the 1037 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 4: purest scores I've ever seen and I said, I might 1038 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,239 Speaker 4: be biased towards the newer generation, might be respected some 1039 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 4: of the older guys, but there's not many guys that 1040 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,959 Speaker 4: I've seen lay them up that can score as pure 1041 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 4: as him and lasted as long as him. I mean, 1042 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 4: we've seen the Trasy mcgrady's, We've seen you know, who 1043 00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:28,879 Speaker 4: else would I put in there that that was an 1044 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:34,239 Speaker 4: unbelievable pure score that didn't have who mellow mellow so 1045 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 4: mellow Tracy like those guys were unbelievable scores. Even James Harden, 1046 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 4: like Katie said, has done it for a very long time. 1047 00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 5: I mean, I can't put Katie over cold though. I 1048 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,720 Speaker 5: mean amount of sixty point three quarter games I've. 1049 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: Seen to me in terms of look to me in 1050 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: terms of just putting the ball in the hoop, I 1051 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,719 Speaker 1: tend to agree with Danny. I think, like outside of it, Mike, 1052 00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,920 Speaker 1: I think KD is just put right behind putting, putting 1053 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,360 Speaker 1: all that. 1054 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 4: Colbe had sixty point games, but I feel like he 1055 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,040 Speaker 4: had some years where he wasn't he was shooting till 1056 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,560 Speaker 4: fifty forty ninety. Yeah, like you know, he's talking Katie's 1057 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 4: on some fifty forty just. 1058 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,959 Speaker 3: Talking about as a pure skill level than what the rant. 1059 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 4: Kobe is a more skilled Like he's also seven feet, 1060 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,200 Speaker 4: so it's hard to say because to be that skill 1061 00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 4: that seven feet like, that's impressive as hell. So his efficiency. 1062 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 5: He's more dangerous scorer than Kobe, I think, so seven feet, 1063 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 5: so you're looking at his ability. 1064 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 3: But like when you talk about mentality. 1065 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 4: That's that's a different conversation. I cobD the mentality counts 1066 00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 4: for something a scorer, but I'm just saying strictly scoring, 1067 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 4: I'm saying he is number two behind Michael Jeffery Jordes. 1068 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: So in terms of me, in terms of overall offense 1069 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,879 Speaker 1: and impact, I think Kobe was probably a little bit 1070 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: better at manipulating the defense, right. I think Kobe was 1071 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,880 Speaker 1: probably a better Kobe wasn't known for this, but like 1072 00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: he was really good at passing when he felt like 1073 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,399 Speaker 1: like literally one of. 1074 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:04,000 Speaker 4: His he was the best studying, Like, I don't think k. 1075 00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160 Speaker 1: Has just had you know, I'm beating the guy if 1076 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,319 Speaker 1: you're not stopping what I'm doing. 1077 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:09,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1078 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: I think Kobe was definitely better at manipulating defenses and 1079 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 1: sort of understanding what defenses were. 1080 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,040 Speaker 4: Trying to do because shorter guard. For sure, Kat is 1081 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 4: seven ft, you're not. 1082 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,279 Speaker 1: But in terms of just putting the ball in the hoop, yeah, 1083 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:24,399 Speaker 1: I gotta give it to KD. 1084 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,600 Speaker 2: Man, it's it's kind of. 1085 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 4: He's probably gonna catch Cold. I said, Cold played how 1086 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:29,280 Speaker 4: many seasons. 1087 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: Seems like he's gonna catch everybody. He's gonna except for 1088 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 1: maybe Bron. 1089 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, if he plays another two more years, he's definitely 1090 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 4: catching everybody but Bron. 1091 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,120 Speaker 2: And we talked about Bron's longevity all the time. Kat's 1092 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 2: fucking longevity is crazy. 1093 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: For him to be still scoring the way that he 1094 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: does at his age. 1095 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 5: He missed the year and a half come on with 1096 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:54,839 Speaker 5: the Achilles because he would already passed in the top five. 1097 00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,400 Speaker 2: So yeah, shouts the KD climbing the ranks. 1098 00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: Clearly one of the greatest scores that's ever touched the basketball, 1099 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: and it's going to be dope to just watch. 1100 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 2: Him continue to continue to climb up on the list. 1101 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 1: Next up man Tray Young. He's already making himself at 1102 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 1: home in DC. He's spreading DC propaganda. Trey said recently 1103 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 1: he chose to go to DC and before we go on, 1104 00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: I know last time we said that there was no 1105 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:29,880 Speaker 1: reporting on the Wizards having a deal. 1106 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,680 Speaker 2: For Trey Young. That's been changed a little bit. 1107 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,840 Speaker 1: It's now being reported that they have plans on giving 1108 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 1: him a deal this offseason. 1109 00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:39,560 Speaker 4: I hope, So we don't know. 1110 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,879 Speaker 1: It's probably, from what I've read and heard, is not 1111 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,799 Speaker 1: going to be a max deal, which I think would 1112 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: it make sense to give Mary Young max deal. But 1113 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,320 Speaker 1: they seem to be dedicated to giving him a good deal. 1114 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:59,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, Trey said DC is overlooked as a big market. 1115 00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:01,839 Speaker 2: Might have something to do with the fact that they're 1116 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 2: always losing. 1117 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: He also said that he has faith that he could 1118 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,680 Speaker 1: get the team rolling, though he admitted that it wouldn't 1119 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,359 Speaker 1: happen overnight. What do you guys think about Trey Young 1120 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: saying DC's got untapped potential in terms of getting the 1121 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:18,320 Speaker 1: love Paul. 1122 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 5: You know I played for DC. Yes, you know they 1123 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know as far as a 1124 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,360 Speaker 5: big market, but you I mean, you have to start 1125 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 5: changing the culture up there. 1126 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 3: One. 1127 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 5: You know, they've had good year, bad year, good year 1128 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 5: like bad bad bad good like. It's nothing consistent up there. 1129 00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 5: It can be a great place when you're winning. I 1130 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 5: was up, I was there, for the one year I 1131 00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 5: was there, and we won some games, and it's a 1132 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 5: great fan base. But you know, if you're not winning 1133 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 5: and you don't have identity, or you don't have nobody 1134 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 5: who you could gravitate tour because you're shifting different. 1135 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 3: Franchise players out every other year, it's tough. 1136 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 5: Now maybe he can go establish that there to where 1137 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 5: they can gravitate toward toward Tray and he can give 1138 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,080 Speaker 5: them some big games and get the fans excited again. 1139 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 5: So he's saying all the right things and hopefully he 1140 00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 5: can turn things around up there. 1141 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: I'm just super excited. 1142 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:17,440 Speaker 6: This is for me, like DC is overlooked as far 1143 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,320 Speaker 6: as a big market, like in the NBA, I feel 1144 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,759 Speaker 6: like this is a big market, and I just feel 1145 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,400 Speaker 6: like I'm being able to come into an opportunity to 1146 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 6: be myself from around people that obviously have known me 1147 00:53:29,719 --> 00:53:31,400 Speaker 6: for a long time and know the type of person 1148 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,759 Speaker 6: I am and the type of winner I want to be. 1149 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 6: And I know it's a day by day process. I 1150 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:41,560 Speaker 6: know what it takes, so it's not going to be easy, 1151 00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,319 Speaker 6: but I know I know this is a place that 1152 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 6: I'm excited about, and I was excited about whenever I 1153 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,399 Speaker 6: heard it could be a possibility. 1154 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,200 Speaker 2: So you know what's important about this clip. 1155 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,920 Speaker 1: Travis Schlink, who's sitting next to him, is the guy. 1156 00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,920 Speaker 1: He's now in part of Washington, his front office. He 1157 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: was the GM of Atlanta when they chose Trey Young 1158 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:05,200 Speaker 1: over Luka Doncic. 1159 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 2: So this is a guy who's believed in. 1160 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:13,480 Speaker 1: From the beginning, which I think maddens man be around 1161 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,440 Speaker 1: people that believe in what you do, and so he's 1162 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:21,080 Speaker 1: gonna be given the opportunity to show what he's got. 1163 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,960 Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm I can pay for d A, 1164 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: d C, d C. I'm skeptical of the level of 1165 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: success that Trey Young can achieve here. Danny producer Chris asked, 1166 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 1: could the Wizards ever make a finals? 1167 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,720 Speaker 2: You tenure? I can y'all pull up that Chris Brown 1168 00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,560 Speaker 2: mean where he goes? Fuck? 1169 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 4: I think they could make They could get They can 1170 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:58,480 Speaker 4: bring it back to like the John Wall Bradley Bill days. 1171 00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,839 Speaker 2: You didn't get to a six seeds. 1172 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:01,960 Speaker 4: I think yeah. I think they can get in the playoffs. 1173 00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,040 Speaker 4: I think they can make you win a first round 1174 00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,120 Speaker 4: unless they said the culture changes and they make some 1175 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 4: unbelievable draft picks. They've gotten some good pieces. I like 1176 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:11,399 Speaker 4: something they got Sorr there. 1177 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:11,920 Speaker 3: I like him. 1178 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,760 Speaker 4: I love George. I like him like he can hoop 1179 00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 4: bloudol like solid young pieces. 1180 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:19,759 Speaker 2: Man. 1181 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 4: With Trey, I think he can lead this group uh 1182 00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 4: to being solid. And you say, you're in the East, 1183 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,920 Speaker 4: So if you stay healthy and get those groups and 1184 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,520 Speaker 4: get some draft capital, you can get a top four seed, 1185 00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,319 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. In the East, top five seed. 1186 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 4: So I could see him leading them to being like 1187 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:37,360 Speaker 4: turn around. I don't know about Detroit turnaround, but he 1188 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 4: could definitely turn around to being a top five seed 1189 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 4: and you know, getting the playoff series and maybe winning one, 1190 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,840 Speaker 4: dependent on matchups and you know what the other teams 1191 00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:48,680 Speaker 4: look like. But finals run. No, I don't see that, 1192 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,279 Speaker 4: but I said I do. This is a good I 1193 00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,399 Speaker 4: think Trey has the ability to do some things. People 1194 00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 4: are very much under underestimate what he can do. 1195 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,600 Speaker 2: It's been a long time since he showed it to 1196 00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:57,359 Speaker 2: I understand why. 1197 00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,600 Speaker 1: But I do agree with you in terms of the 1198 00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: best of Trey Young is a damn good NBA player. 1199 00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 4: Very yeah. 1200 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,440 Speaker 5: I mean I don't know about a I think the 1201 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 5: player they need to get into that conversation of one 1202 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,680 Speaker 5: of the elites in the East is not there yet. 1203 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 2: Yes, they haven't acquired him. 1204 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,640 Speaker 5: They haven't acquired him yet, but they have some nice 1205 00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:21,239 Speaker 5: young pieces they have, you know, something they can build 1206 00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:22,719 Speaker 5: around until that player. 1207 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,480 Speaker 4: Gets there now, and that might be in the draft, 1208 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:25,320 Speaker 4: It could. 1209 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,239 Speaker 5: Be in the draft, it could be through trade. But 1210 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,440 Speaker 5: they're gonna have like four or five. 1211 00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:34,319 Speaker 4: Years must around the best, like mess around the. 1212 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 2: Kid from Kansas. People seem to really love cam Boozer. 1213 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 2: People love. 1214 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,319 Speaker 1: I wanted to do something a little different that we've 1215 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 1: never done up here. Uh And I wanted to do 1216 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 1: a dramatic reading of Trey Young's letter to the fans. 1217 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a by letter. 1218 00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,200 Speaker 1: I just I got kick out of reading this. This 1219 00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,040 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a guy who's been humbled or cowed 1220 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,160 Speaker 1: by the experience. Seems like the opposite. So let me 1221 00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: just hit you out with the Tray Young statement. Never 1222 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:16,919 Speaker 1: thought i'd be typing this. 1223 00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 2: The last. 1224 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:26,520 Speaker 1: He's like Somber's Somber. Never thought i'd be typing this. 1225 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,400 Speaker 1: The last few years were how I wanted him to be. 1226 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,360 Speaker 1: Expectations that we created for ourselves, reaching heights that Atlanta 1227 00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: has never reached before. Bringing a championship to Atlanta was 1228 00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 1: always my goal. However, between the injuries, the setbacks, and 1229 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,360 Speaker 1: situations that didn't make sense, we never truly got to 1230 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: see y'all full potential together. The city that raised me 1231 00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:58,360 Speaker 1: and taught me so much will always be a chapter 1232 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 1: in this story. However, the pain of staying the same 1233 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 1: eventually outweighed the uncertainty of change. Change is often met 1234 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 1: with fear, but I see it as another opportunity. I'm 1235 00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: walking into this next chapter static, with my head high 1236 00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 1: and my eyes forward. It's time to see what's possible. 1237 00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 1: When the support is real and the vision is clear, 1238 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: we move. 1239 00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,400 Speaker 4: Treng that. 1240 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 3: That was about a dramatic. 1241 00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 4: That was like what I'm saying, spoken word almost almost 1242 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 4: speak easier. 1243 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,920 Speaker 2: When this to produce a. 1244 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: Chris, I gotta give him credit for the joke. He said, 1245 00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: I remember my first time using chat. 1246 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 4: That's what I was. What I'm saying, I was gonna say, 1247 00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,160 Speaker 4: I think Trey is an intelligent young man. What I'm 1248 00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 4: calling this is chat like a motherfucker bro, he said. 1249 00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:14,720 Speaker 1: The pain of staying the same obviously outweighed uncertainty. 1250 00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 4: A change got bars, bars, Jack got bars, though he's 1251 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,480 Speaker 4: said he's he's been Atlanta, He's been around some artists, so. 1252 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, he might got little. 1253 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:29,880 Speaker 4: Pent on, but he's intelligent. I'm calling chat GPT. 1254 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 2: We want to get out of here with some All 1255 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 2: Star chatter. 1256 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 1: All Star Weekend will be here in Los Angeles first 1257 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,360 Speaker 1: time since twenty and eighteen. Super excited about that, and 1258 00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 1: some guys I think can be looking forward to making 1259 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:49,800 Speaker 1: their very first All Star team this year. We talked 1260 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:55,120 Speaker 1: about some breakout guys earlier this week, but just we 1261 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,040 Speaker 1: think would be who we think will make their very 1262 00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 1: first All Star team. I think first one for me 1263 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:04,960 Speaker 1: is Trey Young's ex teammate, and ironically, I think it's 1264 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,400 Speaker 1: because Trey Young. 1265 01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Kind of missed a lot of games this year. 1266 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:12,360 Speaker 4: Jalen John, Yeah, absolutely. 1267 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna make this first All Star team 1268 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: in MD very super well deserved. 1269 01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,480 Speaker 4: His numbers were actually higher than before, but twenty four. 1270 01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:23,480 Speaker 1: To eight and a half assists, this is what he's 1271 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 1: yes as a four man. Damn eight and a half assists, 1272 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,840 Speaker 1: And I love the way he plays. Hes plays super hard, 1273 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,360 Speaker 1: plays with a great motive obviously. 1274 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 4: And he's getting paid, which is more impressive than me, 1275 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,200 Speaker 4: Like he's actually he got the chicken. You already got 1276 01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 4: the chicken. And he's still like, yo, I'm here to 1277 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 4: prove something. 1278 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 2: Super admiring his game. 1279 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,200 Speaker 1: Another guy who I think is finally gonna get his 1280 01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:46,959 Speaker 1: All Star is Jamal Murray. 1281 01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, would you will be. 1282 01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Very well deserved that he's getting in there. We've talked 1283 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:59,120 Speaker 1: about Denny Avdy. I think he's knocking on the door. Okay, 1284 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,240 Speaker 1: so we mentioned some guys at the top, but just 1285 01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:04,320 Speaker 1: quick yes or no. 1286 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 4: Jamal Murray, Absolutely, he's just shooting. I think for sure, Yeah, 1287 01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 4: ke balling, but no, they're just not they're not winning. 1288 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 2: Probably a year away. 1289 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to get snubbed the year. They gotta 1290 01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:19,640 Speaker 4: win a little bit more. 1291 01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 2: It's a note for me. Dog. 1292 01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 4: He's falling over shout him. 1293 01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 1: Norm Powell having another career year. 1294 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,600 Speaker 2: After thirty. This guy is having his career best seasons. 1295 01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, but do you take two players from Miami is 1296 01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:40,600 Speaker 5: making it. 1297 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't think he's had an All Star year. 1298 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 4: He's having enough numbers yet, I can see him. Tyler 1299 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,400 Speaker 4: Hill has been out a lot. Khalil Ware started off slow. 1300 01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,760 Speaker 4: Bam has been kind of up and down. He's Norm's 1301 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,840 Speaker 4: been the most consistent, the most consistently. 1302 01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:59,640 Speaker 1: Shooting forty four percent as a center sixteen and nine 1303 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:04,240 Speaker 1: points seven years, not all star worthy numbers for him. 1304 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,160 Speaker 1: I think Norman is on the cuss, but I'm a 1305 01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:08,680 Speaker 1: soft no on him. 1306 01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,720 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I think he's on the cuss. 1307 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 3: I think he's in who we got next us? 1308 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:20,200 Speaker 4: Soft? Yes, I think he's soft. Yes, they're not winning enough, 1309 01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 4: but he's he's putting up. 1310 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,800 Speaker 2: He deserves it. Porter Junior, I was I'm not gonna lie. 1311 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 2: I gotta be honest. 1312 01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 1: I've been one of his biggest critics in the past 1313 01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:35,080 Speaker 1: in terms of the lack of versatility in this game. 1314 01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes he would have tunnel vision. 1315 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 1: You'd see those memes were like, this is like four 1316 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,919 Speaker 1: guys looking at him and everybody else is open. 1317 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 2: He's just cranking this ship. 1318 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:43,919 Speaker 4: He's always open. 1319 01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 2: Bro watching him on Brooklyn, it's kind of funny. 1320 01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 1: You watch a guy play on championship worthy teams and 1321 01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:52,920 Speaker 1: you see him a certain way because it's like, man, 1322 01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: if he was. 1323 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 2: A little bit better, they probably be back to back champs. 1324 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,240 Speaker 2: But watching him with these. 1325 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Young guys and he's just playing the right way, playing 1326 01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,760 Speaker 1: the ass off every night, hustling, going hard, and having 1327 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:06,240 Speaker 1: his best offensive output of his career. 1328 01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 2: I'm proud of the kind of season that he's having 1329 01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:10,080 Speaker 2: in Brooklyn. 1330 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,440 Speaker 4: Definitely, I'm with you. He's on the cuss for me 1331 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,600 Speaker 4: as well. It's just soft for me. For me, yeah, 1332 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 4: between him and like him and Norm, Like, I think 1333 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 4: I have to go with like. 1334 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,560 Speaker 2: You would go with Norm because the team is. 1335 01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 4: Playing the team. 1336 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, got you. 1337 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 5: That's a number for me. I think he has to 1338 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,840 Speaker 5: win a little more, but the numbers say yeah. 1339 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:31,120 Speaker 4: I feel that they had a good stretch there. 1340 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 5: It's gonna be somebody averaging twenty four to twenty five 1341 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 5: points in this that's not gonna get left off. 1342 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: Franz nah Jalen Johnson, we all agree, is gonna make it. 1343 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: Denny Adie, I'm going. 1344 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,120 Speaker 4: Yes, Bro, he's an all start twenty six, seven and seven. 1345 01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 5: I don't it's not because it's numbers. I think that 1346 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:52,080 Speaker 5: the West has. 1347 01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,200 Speaker 2: Too many, too many, it's too stacked. 1348 01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 4: Name never like well I went through the other day. 1349 01:03:56,280 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 4: I'm trying to name a bunch of guys that should. 1350 01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,440 Speaker 2: Have been Like he might have three Lakers, Luca lebron ISOs. 1351 01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 4: It's possibly like. 1352 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 3: Joker. Yeah, that's to Luca lebron kd. 1353 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking about wings though. 1354 01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, no matter, these players are I don't care what 1355 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:17,600 Speaker 5: it's positionless Wenby s g A. 1356 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 3: That's nine. And then you say, uh man. 1357 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's he already said jam Murray. 1358 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:25,120 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1359 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,720 Speaker 3: And then so now you're looking at Murray. 1360 01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:29,360 Speaker 2: This has a lifetime. 1361 01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,640 Speaker 4: How many total? Fifteen? Right? 1362 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 3: Twelve? 1363 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 2: No, I think it's only twelve, guys. 1364 01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,480 Speaker 3: I didn't even say I said three Lakers. 1365 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 4: So, but we're doing the world so there's three things. 1366 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,680 Speaker 4: How many though the games missed eight okay, so its 1367 01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:46,120 Speaker 4: twenty four. Okay, so twelve. 1368 01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you gotta figure that chet making and 1369 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 5: you're gonna get too from okay, yeah, you got taking 1370 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 5: two from over. I think they have the best record league. 1371 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:55,720 Speaker 5: They're always taken too. 1372 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,240 Speaker 4: It would have been juw, but he said too many 1373 01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 4: games and chess getting. 1374 01:04:58,840 --> 01:05:02,000 Speaker 2: He's eighteen and ten and he's the leading candidate. 1375 01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Gonna get you in, and he's one of the leading 1376 01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: candidates for defensive players. 1377 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the best defense and. 1378 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,919 Speaker 3: It'll be you. He's in for sure. Disrespect bro Chat 1379 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:19,720 Speaker 3: is definitely in. I'll put any money. 1380 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 2: In Minnesota's finest. Wow. 1381 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's definitely in. 1382 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:28,600 Speaker 7: Go ahead, next up, Yeah, chets in for me and eight. 1383 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,680 Speaker 2: I love eighteen and eight. 1384 01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,400 Speaker 7: A lot of the best team in the league. Yeah, 1385 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 7: but j Dove because out. 1386 01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:41,880 Speaker 4: But they have five guys outside of Like, they have 1387 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:43,640 Speaker 4: a lot of guys in the top five defense, Like, 1388 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,200 Speaker 4: they have a really good defensive team. 1389 01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:46,160 Speaker 2: But he's the center. 1390 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 4: He ain't the only one doing it though. 1391 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, but at the Senate, you get the most credit 1392 01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:51,120 Speaker 2: for the defense. 1393 01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:53,560 Speaker 4: However you want to spit it. You know, he's not 1394 01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:54,520 Speaker 4: he's not all start. 1395 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,280 Speaker 3: I think people are going to disagree and then you 1396 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:57,600 Speaker 3: gotta throw Booker in there. 1397 01:05:58,080 --> 01:05:59,440 Speaker 2: Put Yeah, Devin Bookers. 1398 01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 3: But I just named my twelve. That was it. That's 1399 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,240 Speaker 3: why I said, I don't think Danny. 1400 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,400 Speaker 2: Danny, but I think he's playing at that level. 1401 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:08,360 Speaker 4: He's good. He should get it. 1402 01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's playing at the level. But like guys on 1403 01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,480 Speaker 5: winning teams are gonna get more of the Yeah, they're 1404 01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,400 Speaker 5: gonna get more doubt than a guy. 1405 01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,560 Speaker 4: Having a great rookie contest, but not not an All 1406 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,200 Speaker 4: Star's three contest. 1407 01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,360 Speaker 2: He'll have time. He's gonna make All Star teams though. 1408 01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, same with Cooper flag having a great rookie campaign. 1409 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: You're not an All Star this year. All right, folks, 1410 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,680 Speaker 2: that was our show for today. Thank you for tuning in. 1411 01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:38,840 Speaker 1: As always, make sure you subscribe to the No Fouls 1412 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Giving YouTube channel. Make sure you like this video. 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