Speaker 1: Check it down, man Now Down, then Monday Morning decept
Speaker 1: for seventeen them Eating the Book podcast to Kill Alexander.
Speaker 1: It is Guessing Lines for Week sixteen in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It is our final guessing lines show of the year.
Speaker 1: Vinny Mali Lulo in for Chrissy Andrews. Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: there's a Week seventeen. We just don't do Week seventeen.
Speaker 1: We don't do it for guessing lines. We don't do
Speaker 1: it for the Megapod. The reason is Week seventeen just squirreling,
Speaker 1: so we stay away from it. We've tried it in
Speaker 1: years passed. It's just a feudal exercise. Typically, even for
Speaker 1: guessing lines, half of the lines aren't even up by
Speaker 1: the time we do this show, so no guessing lines.
Speaker 1: It will be Christmas Eve anyway. Enjoy your holidays, but
Speaker 1: for this week we are full steam ahead as always.
Speaker 1: The show brought to you by the score x dot
Speaker 1: Com th H E S c O r e x
Speaker 1: dot com. It's that secret stock market thing I've been
Speaker 1: talking about for years. The winner of the Beating the
Speaker 1: Book pool of score xers is gonna be on our
Speaker 1: Megapod wild Card Week with me Marco and Ason right
Speaker 1: now it is profitable in the lead. I am told
Speaker 1: the profitable is a he. I have confirmed that profitable
Speaker 1: thirty four point eight percent up in his portfolio. But
Speaker 1: the lead is narrowing with two weeks. Two weeks rather
Speaker 1: left snap Fade right behind, twenty nine up in snap
Speaker 1: Fade's portfolio, the wick at twenty eight point eight percent
Speaker 1: up top left, eight point two percent up in fourth
Speaker 1: and j bags percent up. But that lead for profitable
Speaker 1: ever so slightly shrinking only two more weeks. We shall
Speaker 1: see what happens. It's the score x dot com th
Speaker 1: h E s c O r e x dot com.
Speaker 1: Check it out on the Vega Stats and Information Network
Speaker 1: and gidiots will believe in analytics. Analytics, statistics and more
Speaker 1: are used to win waiters and Gil has every number
Speaker 1: you need to catch your tickets now live from the
Speaker 1: Visa Studios in the South Point Hotel and Casino. It's
Speaker 1: Gil Alexander. It is Gil Alexander. It is a numbers
Speaker 1: game where sports betting analytics live, actionable sports betting information
Speaker 1: right here on Visa the Vegas Stats in Information Network
Speaker 1: Serious except Channel two oh four Visa dot Com, the
Speaker 1: Visa app Fubo TV. What's going on here with the
Speaker 1: old jacket there? All right, Matt Jones is here. What's
Speaker 1: happening Matt Jones? Hello, Happy Monday, Matt Jones. What a
Speaker 1: wonderful weekend? It was Matteo that is what is your Twitter? Matt?
Speaker 1: What is it? The Matteo Jones? Do you like my tail?
Speaker 1: I like my tail? Yeah, well the Matt Jones was taken.
Speaker 1: We have a common name like Matt Jones. It's hard
Speaker 1: to you know, get your claim and on that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Let's get your parents on that. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: take him to tear fault. All right, thanks dad, Matt,
Speaker 1: Mom's right, sorry, didn't mean to go after your parents.
Speaker 1: Within two seconds of the beginning of the show, Week
Speaker 1: sixteen in the National Football League is in front of us.
Speaker 1: We will guess the lines with the Vinny Maliulo in
Speaker 1: for Christie Andrews this morning, Vinny making his way in
Speaker 1: the studio and Chrissy uh, texting back and forth, talking
Speaker 1: back and forth. They don't text, they talk um and
Speaker 1: they're coming up with the week sixteen lines that they're
Speaker 1: posting right now. So many will be with us uh
Speaker 1: momentarily here in the studio and UH, we'll look forward
Speaker 1: to that. And of course, if you're just tuning in
Speaker 1: to guessing lines for the first time, this is a
Speaker 1: tribute to the old Start US show back in the
Speaker 1: day with Roxy Roxborough. UH. And in the process of
Speaker 1: guessing week sixteen lines, we'll also of course talk about
Speaker 1: everything that happened in week fifteen in the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Just had a chat with Pauli and Mitch about sort
Speaker 1: of first impressions, and we'll talk about all those things
Speaker 1: that the show goes on. In case you missed that, Uh,
Speaker 1: David Perdam doing a fine job, um reporting some of
Speaker 1: the biggest bets this past weekend regarding the National Football League,
Speaker 1: and boy did MGM make hay. MGM took some of
Speaker 1: the biggest bets that ended up going their way. Uh
Speaker 1: took a five hundred thousand dollar money line bet on
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to beat the forty nine ers straight up,
Speaker 1: accorded to David Perdham, MGM did here well. Uh aven
Speaker 1: also um describing he was also in Pittsburgh, by the way,
Speaker 1: that new legal sports book that opened up within walking
Speaker 1: distance at the Steelers Pats game. But as far as
Speaker 1: the bets, Patrick Everson of Covers. He mentioned that an
Speaker 1: MGM better came in bet a hundred and eighty kale
Speaker 1: on the Rams money line last night to win twenty
Speaker 1: thousand and MGM in Atlantic City at Borgata took a
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen thousand dollar wager on the first
Speaker 1: half over twenty six and the Eagles Rams game that
Speaker 1: ends up pushing, So no harm, no foul on that one.
Speaker 1: So MGM making hay on those two big bets, the
Speaker 1: one on the Seahawks one on the Rams. Those didn't
Speaker 1: go the Better's way. How was your weekend, man, It's
Speaker 1: a good weekend betting wise. I didn't do a whole
Speaker 1: lot of betting. I'll played some poker. Did you have
Speaker 1: that it was? It was a decent weekend of poker.
Speaker 1: I came out ahead, not by a whole lot, but
Speaker 1: come out of head. It's better than losing, uh it is.
Speaker 1: It is better than losing. Saturday was a was a
Speaker 1: windfall for me on college football that went very well.
Speaker 1: Yesterday looked to be very good as well until the
Speaker 1: Rams and the Eagles happened. Let's put that in contest
Speaker 1: real quick and we'll get to these games again. As
Speaker 1: we guess week sixteen lines, but just to put some
Speaker 1: contexts into the eagles outright win over the Rams last night,
Speaker 1: they went at thirty to twenty three. Warren Sharp tweeting
Speaker 1: this last night, the Eagles just the second team in
Speaker 1: the last thirty years to be a dog of over
Speaker 1: thirteen points and hold a seventeen plus point lead entering
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Uh Philly was up thirty to thirteen
Speaker 1: through three quarters. Here's another one that he put up.
Speaker 1: The Eagles are just the eighth team in the last
Speaker 1: thirty years to win as a road dog of over
Speaker 1: thirteen points versus a team with a eight hundred plus
Speaker 1: win rate from Week five onward. Parts that one out nicely,
Speaker 1: Rams eleven, we're eleven to eighty four point six percent,
Speaker 1: so that the Eagles qualify there. And then Mark Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who's on with Mitch and PAULI very often hate, tweeted
Speaker 1: that the fourteen point underdog Eagles did they get to fourteen?
Speaker 1: That wasn't as news to me, but I guess they
Speaker 1: may might have touched that in some places. The fourteen
Speaker 1: point underdog Eagles are taking more points from the Rams
Speaker 1: last night than any defending Super Bowl champion has since.
Speaker 1: Previous high was San Francisco was a thirteen and a
Speaker 1: half point underdog against Dallas. Niners ended up winning that game,
Speaker 1: much like the Eagles won the game last night. So
Speaker 1: just an amazing outcome last night after a day where
Speaker 1: it was awfully Uh, it was awful. It was really
Speaker 1: about the home teams yesterday, up and down the schedule,
Speaker 1: only the Redskins, Titans, and then Eagles win on the road.
Speaker 1: And this gets back to my biggest thing with the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, and I just mentioned it with Mission Paul.
Speaker 1: This is the biggest thing to me because we talked
Speaker 1: about it in baseball all the time. Home road splits
Speaker 1: were very comfortable with it. In baseball. We talked about
Speaker 1: pictures and how they how they performed differently in their
Speaker 1: home ballparks versus elsewhere. Sometimes it's by the way to
Speaker 1: the good at home. Sometimes it's to the bad, depending
Speaker 1: on their skill set and the dimensions and the characteristics
Speaker 1: of that ballpark. And if you say, well, we always
Speaker 1: know that home teams, they team to play better at
Speaker 1: home by and large than they do on the road.
Speaker 1: Not like this year Patriots six and oh at home,
Speaker 1: three and five on the road. And we'll put that
Speaker 1: three in five in context. Coming up for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: Dolphins now six and one at home, one in six
Speaker 1: on the road. Just up and down the list, there's
Speaker 1: these just stark differences. Cowboys six and one at home,
Speaker 1: two and five on the road, Bears seven and one
Speaker 1: at home, three and three on the road, Packers five,
Speaker 1: one and one at home, oh and seven straight up
Speaker 1: on the road. Panthers, we'll see what happens tonight home
Speaker 1: game for them, five and one at home, one and
Speaker 1: six on the road. Even the Niners four and three
Speaker 1: at home, oh and seven on the road. Even the
Speaker 1: Bucks four and three at home, one and six on
Speaker 1: the road. And so I guess what I'm saying is, again,
Speaker 1: when we're doing handicapping, we fill up all these hours
Speaker 1: of content talking about all different kinds of things, But
Speaker 1: really every game should start with the topic sentence, who's
Speaker 1: playing at home? It's that simple. Sometimes in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year it's massively simple like that. And we saw
Speaker 1: that play out again yesterday. Vinny is here for week sixteen.
Speaker 1: Good morning to you, sir, Hello, kil how are you.
Speaker 1: What do you say, buddy? Uh say? I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what I say. You know my three outrage games were
Speaker 1: last week. Let's arkhim back to last guessing lines. The
Speaker 1: three games I was outraged by, outraged, outraged, not like
Speaker 1: PAULI level outrage, but like Gil level outrage. Cleveland plus
Speaker 1: three because you know he he does outrage well for
Speaker 1: three hours. He's good. He's good at out good at outrage.
Speaker 1: I say that with respect. Uh, Cleveland plus three and
Speaker 1: a half was what it was last sat. When we
Speaker 1: talked about that Saturday game. In this past Monday, you
Speaker 1: said it was Cleveland three and a half and I
Speaker 1: was like, that's ridiculous, and you said, grab the hook,
Speaker 1: grab it now, Gil. Then you're right. Cleveland ended up
Speaker 1: being just a one and a half point dog in
Speaker 1: the end and wanted out right seventy to sixty. And
Speaker 1: we'll talk about this game in death coming up. So
Speaker 1: I was outraged about that, and I was right to
Speaker 1: be outraged. I was also right to be outraged about
Speaker 1: the fact that we didn't have a line for the
Speaker 1: Steelers and Patriots. And I said the Steelers should be favored,
Speaker 1: and you said, don't be surprised that the Patriots of favor,
Speaker 1: and the Patriots were open at one. Got all the
Speaker 1: way to two and a half. There were some threes
Speaker 1: briefly and some Steelers end up winning it by a
Speaker 1: touchdown seventeen to ten. So correct I was to be
Speaker 1: outraged by those two? You know which one I was
Speaker 1: not correct to be outraged by, as it turns out,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins, who at the time of guessing lines last
Speaker 1: week I couldn't believe they were more than a touchdown
Speaker 1: of a dog. At least they made the Vikings have
Speaker 1: to win this game twice, because the Vikings stormed out
Speaker 1: to a twenty one and nothing lead, and I was like, boy,
Speaker 1: was I wrong about this? Then it was one to seventeen.
Speaker 1: I'm like to see you have what a genius I am?
Speaker 1: And it was forty one to seventeen again, so that one,
Speaker 1: that one didn't play. The Dolphins terrible on the road,
Speaker 1: as I just mentioned, but at least I thought they
Speaker 1: would cover that. So right on two of those I
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I did yesterday. First of all,
Speaker 1: Saturday was the greatest betting day I've ever had in
Speaker 1: my entire existence on Earth. So then I came into Sunday,
Speaker 1: and Sunday was was really really good. Also in the morning, Colts.
Speaker 1: Um Colts was good. Um Titans was good. Vikings on
Speaker 1: a tease was good. It was all over the place.
Speaker 1: Everything was working out again. Steelers was great in the
Speaker 1: afternoon and I was like, Wow, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: it's gonna can And then I had the rams and
Speaker 1: the teeth that didn't work. What's your takeaway from that game?
Speaker 1: We're just talking about this earlier that that that there's
Speaker 1: no great team in the NFL this year. There's no
Speaker 1: team without the Laws and Jared Golf and I listen,
Speaker 1: I've I've said it now for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: with him. He melted in in what was not even
Speaker 1: that cold of a weather in Chicago. Looked like he
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there. From the beginning. I was like, dude,
Speaker 1: it's not like thirty below. Actinks defense was more of
Speaker 1: a factor than the weather. It was. It was a
Speaker 1: factor for sure. In fact, I think the Bears defense
Speaker 1: was such a factor that you still beat up yesterday.
Speaker 1: I used to explain that he's still beat up yesterday.
Speaker 1: He was. I think Golf was still feeling the effects
Speaker 1: of you. Yeah, I do. I would like to see
Speaker 1: him care. I would like to see some passion. There's
Speaker 1: not another quarterback in this league. Let me let me
Speaker 1: not say that there's not one of any repete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, right, the Joe Flacco face, he's the only
Speaker 1: other one, like his apathetic face. But Jared God, show
Speaker 1: me like, show me you care at least like that
Speaker 1: bothers me. But the Rams were beyond Jared go. If
Speaker 1: they were poorly coached last night, They're not getting out
Speaker 1: of bounds every did on consecutive drives. Again, I mentioned
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley did. Todd Gurley took responsibility for it afterwards.
Speaker 1: That's coaching. Game management was very bad. It's interesting to
Speaker 1: considering golf's going out of bounds in earlier games this
Speaker 1: season that uh, or laying down time yeah, or going
Speaker 1: to the ground yeah. Uh but for sure, Gil, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's uh. And the Eagles are legit in it. That's
Speaker 1: the other take. Well, yeah, they're they're alive now, right,
Speaker 1: and there's there's a big game between them and uh,
Speaker 1: the Texans next next week, which we'll get to. So
Speaker 1: I do think you have that? You have to ask yourself. Also, now,
Speaker 1: Nick Voles super Bowl champion, right, we we haven't talked
Speaker 1: about it. All year. We've we've taken the Eagles, you know,
Speaker 1: we've we've already laid them to rest. Nick Foles comes
Speaker 1: in there and it's like all those memories come back
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, it's having it again.
Speaker 1: They need help to get in pretty cool customer. But
Speaker 1: unlike the Redskins at seven and seven, they had a
Speaker 1: legit shot. Yeah, they're they're in a better position certainly
Speaker 1: than the Redskins. I mean they yeah, as you said,
Speaker 1: I mean they need help. Um, you know, they got
Speaker 1: some games. It's like it's like a lot of team skilled.
Speaker 1: There's some games that just haunt the haunting teams now
Speaker 1: and they wish they had back, or they had they
Speaker 1: had a chance to win, or we're leading and they
Speaker 1: didn't finish and now. But but look, that's a big
Speaker 1: it's a big win for the Eagles last night psychologically
Speaker 1: as well. Absolutely absolutely, But the home road splits that
Speaker 1: to me is is the big headline and all this
Speaker 1: tonight Panthers hosting the Saints all kinds of implications for
Speaker 1: this one as well. The Saints can clinch the number
Speaker 1: one seed with the win tonight. From not mistaken, yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely there is up to six now, uh, and the
Speaker 1: Panthers need a win to stay in this. If the
Speaker 1: Panthers win, they will go to seven and seven and
Speaker 1: they will be a half game out of the final
Speaker 1: wild card playoff spot currently held by the Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: in the NFC. At seven six and one, Panthers losing
Speaker 1: pretty much you can forget about it, but they win
Speaker 1: in there, right in it again along with the Eagles
Speaker 1: and Redskins. Redskins in quotes at seven and seven. I
Speaker 1: don't mean to disparage the Redskins, but let's be honest again.
Speaker 1: I'll say what I said moments ago. Has there ever
Speaker 1: been a team that's only a half game out of
Speaker 1: a playoff spot with two games left that has had
Speaker 1: less of a realistic chance of the washing Redskins do
Speaker 1: in the history of the league. Probably not, Gi. You
Speaker 1: sound like a Redskins fan. Well, and by the way,
Speaker 1: good for the Redskins way of that game last night
Speaker 1: yesterday with all their injuries. Um, I love you watching
Speaker 1: the Redskins. I hate you, Daniel. Daniel Snyder. Teams teams battle,
Speaker 1: teams continue to battle, buddy. That's so that's a factor
Speaker 1: they do. There's no taking in the NFL, as the
Speaker 1: Niner showed yesterday, although the Jaguars kind of tank ish.
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in the middle in a minute.
Speaker 1: Let's start with the Thursday night game. We'll get to
Speaker 1: all the comments from yesterday. We're not even close to
Speaker 1: starting with this stuff. Thursday, what you got? Let's see
Speaker 1: what do we have for Gil on Thursday? Get my
Speaker 1: It's as if you didn't know what it's as if
Speaker 1: you didn't know you were going to do the show
Speaker 1: this morning with this, No, I have to well, actually
Speaker 1: I don't believe there is a Saturday, but that's right
Speaker 1: with of no Thursday this week, which we love, actually
Speaker 1: we do love. Um we've got bull season here, but
Speaker 1: two games on Saturday. The first one who is oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember Washington Redskins in Tennessee to play the Titans.
Speaker 1: Washington at Tennessee. Yes, Tennessee very much a lot right.
Speaker 1: Tennessee's eight and six, So Tennessee right now would be
Speaker 1: tied for the number two playoff position at least record wise. Well,
Speaker 1: we won't get into tiebreakers, but along with the Colts
Speaker 1: and the Ravens, all three of those teams at eight
Speaker 1: and six right now, the number two wild card positions
Speaker 1: should be noted also, though, of course, with the Titans,
Speaker 1: that the Texans are two games ahead in the a
Speaker 1: f C South, so that hasn't been clinched, but for
Speaker 1: all intents and purposes might be over Titans. Yesterday they
Speaker 1: go into New York again, the Redskins and the Titans
Speaker 1: two of the three teams yesterday, that one on the road.
Speaker 1: Titans blank the Giants seventeen to nothing, and they do
Speaker 1: it with Marcus Mariotta throwing for eighty eight yards. Was
Speaker 1: a more of a running backs day yesterday, It really was. Well.
Speaker 1: This one was in a driving rain storm. Mariota was
Speaker 1: twelve of twenty eight eight yards, no touchdowns, no pick sacked,
Speaker 1: just once. Derrick Henry right where he left right where
Speaker 1: he left off, this time a career high thirty three
Speaker 1: carries for Henry, following up his two hundred plus yard
Speaker 1: performance with a hundred and seventy and two touchdowns. Yesterday
Speaker 1: his four hundred and eight yards, so he had to
Speaker 1: thirty eight the week before his four eight yards over
Speaker 1: the last two games of the best in the Titans era.
Speaker 1: Don't forget though, the Tyler Rose Earl Campbell ran for
Speaker 1: more than that two games when he was with the
Speaker 1: Houston Oilers back in the day. The Tyler Rose Earl
Speaker 1: Campbell with that jersey sticking out. Titans had the ball
Speaker 1: for thirty five minutes and twenty one seconds of that game. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: by the way, third straight win for the Titans, first
Speaker 1: shut out in eighteen years. It's Christmas Day two thousand.
Speaker 1: I think they went to Uh. They were bent heavily yesterday.
Speaker 1: The Titans remember the scheme the Giants now. Once Beckham
Speaker 1: was announced that he was out, Um, you know, the
Speaker 1: Titans wound up closing. It's two point favorites ester and
Speaker 1: the Giants were favorites earlier open a week Uh. Titans
Speaker 1: have allowed nine points in their last two games. The
Speaker 1: limited Sake Yeah limited Sea Kwana thirty one yards on
Speaker 1: fourteen carries, Titans offense forty two carries two hundred sixteen
Speaker 1: yards and the Skins as we as we talked about,
Speaker 1: Skins go into Jacksonville and Josh Johnson is sixteen one,
Speaker 1: one one touchdown note picks he was sacked three times. UH.
Speaker 1: The Redskins fourth starting quarterback and as many weeks sorry,
Speaker 1: fourth started quarterback and has many weeks let's list them Smith, McCoy, Sanchez, Johnson.
Speaker 1: But the Redskins go in at seven point dogs and
Speaker 1: they beat the Jaguars sixteen and thirteen. A lot of
Speaker 1: that on a lot of help there on a tipped
Speaker 1: ball that landed in Jamison Crowder's hands that allowed the
Speaker 1: Redskins to sustain a game tying drive. They later got
Speaker 1: a pick from Fabian Moreau kicked the game winning field
Speaker 1: sixteen Redskins over the Jaguars. UM Josh Johnson. This is
Speaker 1: a true story. I'm not making this up. Josh Johnson
Speaker 1: played Madden NFL nineteen last week to learn his new
Speaker 1: teammates and names. There's a true story. But he led
Speaker 1: the Skins on those two scoring drives at the end
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter they beat Jacksonville, first victory of
Speaker 1: Josh Johnson's pro career. He had been owing five as
Speaker 1: a starter. First for the Redskins UH in terms of
Speaker 1: just victories since Alex Smith broke his right leg last month.
Speaker 1: By the way, Alex Smith out of the hospital finally
Speaker 1: had infections in the legs and we wish him the best. UH.
Speaker 1: Six yard touchdown though, from Josh Johnson to Jeremy Sprinkle
Speaker 1: sprinkle wing ming with seven remaining tie, the game got
Speaker 1: the ball act with the pick as I mentioned, and
Speaker 1: then Dustin Hopkins thirty eight yard field goal drilled it.
Speaker 1: Skinns win and their four game losing set. The Skins
Speaker 1: are seven and seven. They're mathematically alive. They're only a
Speaker 1: half game out of a playoff spot in the wild
Speaker 1: guard race. But forget about it. Tennessee by ten, Tennessee
Speaker 1: by tenant is And again, as I say, these numbers,
Speaker 1: these are the openers here at the south Point, just
Speaker 1: put in the system. Chris Andrews on the phone, like Chrissie.
Speaker 1: Chrissy and supervisor Lou Vargin typing the writing buddy Christy
Speaker 1: Vinnie and Lou. So it was ten tent on the butt,
Speaker 1: ten on the button. Yes, yeah, I mean, look the Skins.
Speaker 1: The Skins have no shot. They were lucky to win
Speaker 1: that game yesterday and they've got no shot. Was the Jacks.
Speaker 1: It was the Jacks. All right, you got one more
Speaker 1: Saturday and we'll go to let's do that. So two Saturdays,
Speaker 1: two Saturdays. Well, I'm just trying to help. No, you're perfect,
Speaker 1: you're perfect, Please you steer the ship. I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing. Hey, I'm just I'm looking behind the
Speaker 1: glass over here. I'm picking up my third base coach
Speaker 1: Ravens in Los Angeles to play the Chargers. Good game.
Speaker 1: There's a game. There's a good playoff game. It really
Speaker 1: is sorts right, it really is. Um boy, here's the
Speaker 1: deal on this. There's a takeaway from that Chargers Chiefs game. Right.
Speaker 1: One confirmation Chiefs defense is especially their secondary very is
Speaker 1: not good. A right, realize that not good, especially with
Speaker 1: a I mean considering Philip Rivers and this is not
Speaker 1: a knock on him, but his style is just you
Speaker 1: know where he is, right, He's not mobile, not particularly
Speaker 1: mobile straight back and his placement of those passes there's incredible, man,
Speaker 1: just terrific. So I said it. Friday said this should
Speaker 1: be Philip Rivers appreciation. Absolutely his whole career. He gets
Speaker 1: knocked down, it gets right back up like like it
Speaker 1: just slofts them off, never gets hurt. Every game, very
Speaker 1: gutty win by the players and coaching staff on the Chargers,
Speaker 1: and and and the other takeaway from that game, obviously
Speaker 1: is that the Chargers are never out of a game. Never.
Speaker 1: They're the one thing I jumped overs plagued them the
Speaker 1: first you know, first three quarters. Yes, I joked with
Speaker 1: my buddy when they were down fourteen nothing, I was like,
Speaker 1: they got the Chiefs right where they want. They minus
Speaker 1: two in turnovers in that game. Philip Rivers never again.
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers never gets hurt. He's never. He never quarterback sneaks.
Speaker 1: It's the funniest thing with his career. He shot, puts
Speaker 1: the ball, puts it that again. That passed the Travis
Speaker 1: Benjamin to convert that fourth and eight. Could have frozen
Speaker 1: the screen. He could have walked up to a place,
Speaker 1: couldn't have placed it any better. Uh. And right now,
Speaker 1: And I was for weeks now, I've been saying I'm
Speaker 1: grabbing Chargers future tickets the Chargers right now. That Seahawks
Speaker 1: loss to the Niners yesterday was a sneaky good thing
Speaker 1: for the Charges because now the Seahawks gots to play
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs this coming week. So Tide record was
Speaker 1: with the Chiefs, and Chiefs hold the tie break or
Speaker 1: they split with each other. Right, that's better division record.
Speaker 1: And but it's the division better division record currently, So
Speaker 1: they do need the Chiefs to lose, do the Charges
Speaker 1: to win the Division. But now, let me just say this.
Speaker 1: If there's one team where home field doesn't matter, or
Speaker 1: for for which it might not matter, it would be
Speaker 1: the Chargers, who, in essence just kind of feel, you know,
Speaker 1: comfortable everybody. They play in StubHub Center. By the way,
Speaker 1: here's a little quirk. If the Chargers get home games
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, whether it's as a division winner, well
Speaker 1: they won't. There's a way to get a home game
Speaker 1: as a wild card, but not likely. Um, it will
Speaker 1: no longer be called StubHub Center. Did you know this?
Speaker 1: You're changing it right, ye, Dignity Health Sports Park. It's
Speaker 1: not It's not Charger Stadium, that's for sure. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: Mike Williams showing up that game against the Chiefs as well.
Speaker 1: Seven catches, seventy six yards, two touchdowns, Philip rivers thirty
Speaker 1: in that game for three touchdowns, two picks. He was
Speaker 1: sacked five times, four d seven total yards of offense
Speaker 1: for the Charges come from behind win over the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: On Keenan Allen had to leave the game. So that's
Speaker 1: the real question about this game. Will Keenan Allen be
Speaker 1: ready to go? He's got a hip pointer, the old
Speaker 1: hip pointer, and will Melvin Gordon good. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: the Ekeler was out last week as well, right, and
Speaker 1: so both backs. But yeah, this is gonna be. This
Speaker 1: is a good game Pacific on Saturday. Gill absolutely raven sir,
Speaker 1: and uh you know, uh a dog fight as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, right now they're one of the they're a
Speaker 1: wild card team, right they are. Yeah, they're at a
Speaker 1: tie with the with the Titans and the Colts at
Speaker 1: eight and six for the number two wild card position.
Speaker 1: But it should be noted the Ravens only a half
Speaker 1: game out of the division lead in the a f
Speaker 1: C North as well. And yesterday the Ravens got it
Speaker 1: done with a twenty to twelve win over Tampa Bay
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, who is now the star in Baltimore
Speaker 1: four and one as the raven starting quarterback. He was
Speaker 1: fourteen twenty three for one thirty one, one touchdown, no picks.
Speaker 1: He was sacked twice. But he also of course gets
Speaker 1: it done with his legs. Eighteen carries, ninety five yards,
Speaker 1: charges by four and a half charges four and a half.
Speaker 1: Look at you, alright, buddy. Of course that doesn't make
Speaker 1: it betable, but I got both of those all right,
Speaker 1: So those are the two Saturdays are two Saturday games. Again,
Speaker 1: no Thursday game this week for the in the NFL. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a break. Let's do Sunday games guessing lines
Speaker 1: for week sixteen. It's our last guessing line show of
Speaker 1: the year because we don't do Week seventeen. Scorely yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Plus I don't think I'm here on Monday. There's that too, yeah,
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. Yeah, we we you know what, we don't
Speaker 1: do a megapod. I don't be buddy beating the book megapod.
Speaker 1: I don't do guessing lines because Week seventeen is just
Speaker 1: by Monday. On Monday, you don't even know half the lines.
Speaker 1: You don't even post half the line. That's the problem.
Speaker 1: All right, We'll continue Sunday games week sixteen. Try to
Speaker 1: extract some value right here on a numbers game at
Speaker 1: Visa broadcasting live from our Visa in studios in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Back on the numbers game here at Visa, the Vegas
Speaker 1: Stats and Information Network kill Alexandra Sirius x Chail too
Speaker 1: for Vinny Malulo and for Chrissie andrews or Is, Christy
Speaker 1: Calls and Vinny Mao, Leo that's the It is the
Speaker 1: Greek pronunciation mayo leo. Last thing on Lamar Jackson before
Speaker 1: we get off that Ravens charges game. Lamar Jackson averaging
Speaker 1: five point three yards per rush yesterday. Um he directed
Speaker 1: once again. This is a big theme with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Two drives that lasted more than seven minutes before closing
Speaker 1: out the game with the drive that consumed the final
Speaker 1: seven oh eight. Is Joe Flacco in Baltimore next year? New? No,
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So think about think about all these
Speaker 1: teams that inclined to agree with you. Yeah, all these
Speaker 1: teams that need order back, including your Washington Redskins. But like,
Speaker 1: there's lots of teams that could use a quarterback. So
Speaker 1: I wonder where Joe Flacco and his apathetic expression ends up.
Speaker 1: Is John Harbaugh and he may have saved his job
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson may have saved his job. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciately if they make the playoffs. Right, Jackson has
Speaker 1: rushed for four hundred twenty seven yards in five games. Now.
Speaker 1: Ravens two forty two yards on the ground yesterday and
Speaker 1: forty nine attempts again, someone named Gus Edwards going for
Speaker 1: nine nine carries for a hundred four yards of the
Speaker 1: touchdown someone named that's a joke about guys that where
Speaker 1: you go, Rutgers. We've we found out Baltimore first team
Speaker 1: since the seventy six stealers to rush for at least
Speaker 1: a hundred ninety yards and five straight games. All right.
Speaker 1: Curiously that according to the Ravens, they were nine of
Speaker 1: sixteen on third downs. That's the other thing with Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson third downs. All right, we'll move on Sunday. Game
Speaker 1: On Sunday. First game Sunday the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in
Speaker 1: Dallas to play the Cowboys. Tampa Bay. What did Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay do yesterday? Who they lose to? They lost to
Speaker 1: the Ravens. That's right, they lost to the Ravens twenty
Speaker 1: to twelve. We just talked about that. Mike Evans filled
Speaker 1: up a statuet again the four catches a twenty one yards.
Speaker 1: That lost by the way, eliminating Tampa Bay from playoff contention.
Speaker 1: All you people who still held out hope for Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay get in the postseason future tickets, So it's souvenirs
Speaker 1: that's there at Dallas. Now, Dallas got shut out by
Speaker 1: the Colts twenty three to nothing. By the way, it
Speaker 1: was the Colts defense that was a major factor yesterday,
Speaker 1: major factor for those of us who had the Colts.
Speaker 1: You know, one of my one of my big things
Speaker 1: why I have the Colts again. You have to handicap
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys as if they're two entirely different football teams.
Speaker 1: When they're at home and the refs are looking the
Speaker 1: other way, when the Cowboys do horrible things to the opponent.
Speaker 1: Sorry gut Boys fans, but you know it's true, and
Speaker 1: when they're on the road and they don't get that
Speaker 1: kind of benefit. Just two different teams. But Dallas will
Speaker 1: be back, and I'm sorry about that. Matt Jones is
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. By the way, they put a Cowboys
Speaker 1: fan in a redskin fan together. I don't know if
Speaker 1: this Producers is your Mike on. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna work, Producers got, I don't know. Maybe people
Speaker 1: can't hear you, buddy, your Mike. Your Mike might not
Speaker 1: be on when you talking about the Cowboys. We just
Speaker 1: shut them off. That's ready has that's no redskin information emanating.
Speaker 1: We talked, We talked about the Dallas over road splits.
Speaker 1: So Dallas along those lines, then Dallas has to be
Speaker 1: favorite here over the Bucks. Yes, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: favored by six seven, right, that'll work full touchdown, touchdown
Speaker 1: and an extra point, you know what, converted extra point.
Speaker 1: I said this earlier in the year for those who
Speaker 1: are paying close attention, and people do play pay very
Speaker 1: close engines. I appreciate that. It's very It's always great
Speaker 1: when you hear people say I remember when you said that,
Speaker 1: and then and you're like, oh, yeah, I think I
Speaker 1: did say that when it's good or bad. But one
Speaker 1: of the things I said earlier in the year DeShawn Jackson,
Speaker 1: who was tremendous in Philly, tremendous in d C. And
Speaker 1: I said earlier when Ryan Fitzpatrick went out of the
Speaker 1: line up, I said, watch how watch how DeShawn Jackson's
Speaker 1: career crumbles when Jamis Winston is behind center, and it
Speaker 1: happened he, just like Jamis Winston, is the only quarterback
Speaker 1: in DeShawn Jackson's career who cannot seem to make use
Speaker 1: of him. Speaking of saving jobs, yes, sir, I mean
Speaker 1: they're not going to make the playoffs, obviously, the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: But I don't know if their cutter is gonna make it.
Speaker 1: I don't know. How about Jason Garrett's gonna make it?
Speaker 1: What about Jameis Winston, I don't know. I think he
Speaker 1: may be elsewhere. That's a possibility. To Derek Carr, Jamis Winston, Well,
Speaker 1: those afraid, I think, he said, I think you're very
Speaker 1: of the Raiders video. I know, you know, well look
Speaker 1: at they you know they gave him that deal before
Speaker 1: the season trade. Khalil Mack. I mean, by the way
Speaker 1: there are car has been a better quarterback, better field.
Speaker 1: Jeff forgot you know yesterday I saw even as they
Speaker 1: were battling yesterday. Uh, and we talked about this last
Speaker 1: week since that blow up on the sideline between him
Speaker 1: and John Gruden. Yeah, he's been better. You're right about that.
Speaker 1: I mean I disagree with you on the change of culture,
Speaker 1: but you're right about that. Well, I think the culture
Speaker 1: has changing there from from the I think he's just,
Speaker 1: let me put it this way, John Gruden is establishing
Speaker 1: his culture, which is work hard, in battle, compete. Do
Speaker 1: you disagree. I think the culture changed from a culture
Speaker 1: of good players the bad players. Well, they're rebuilding, but
Speaker 1: they're only rebuilding because they sucked like that wasn't their plan.
Speaker 1: They were. They were like grabbing free agents at the
Speaker 1: off season and then they're like, all right, we'll I
Speaker 1: just don't know there's You can't tell me that this
Speaker 1: was their plan from the beginning. No, I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: but it's their clearly it's their direction now and it
Speaker 1: has been since what in the first month. I mean,
Speaker 1: n Gruden is putting his signature on this French Oh,
Speaker 1: he's doing that. So now he's doing that. All right.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's going to be universally popular, but
Speaker 1: that is a fact. Anyway, I said in the off season,
Speaker 1: I'm like, listen, I don't know why they're paying him
Speaker 1: this money. Because again, as a guy who saw Joe
Speaker 1: Gibbs leave the game for thirteen piece years, who was
Speaker 1: ten times the coach, Jon Gruden was, even he had
Speaker 1: trouble coming back and figuring out the modern game for
Speaker 1: a while. And then the counter to that is, oh, well,
Speaker 1: John Gruten was in film rooms with quarterbacks the whole
Speaker 1: time Joe Gibbs was how doing Nascar? I never bought
Speaker 1: into it, But anyway, you said at Dallas seven, how
Speaker 1: do we get on the Raiders again. Um, I don't
Speaker 1: know how. So here, let's do another game. So so
Speaker 1: I said six, and you said it's seven Dallas minus
Speaker 1: seven over that Its correct? Okay, that's feared to sell.
Speaker 1: All right, let's doing Bills at the Patriots. Bills beat
Speaker 1: the Lions. Yeah, for their fifth win of the year.
Speaker 1: Remember when what were we talking or didn't somebody put
Speaker 1: up a prop like will the Bills even win a
Speaker 1: game this year? At one point? Yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: was going into that uh that Vikings game? Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they wanted beating the Vikings badly. Still a bigger
Speaker 1: upset than last night's game was? Yeah, what was that? Seven? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Sixteen and a half. There were two games that were
Speaker 1: bigger upsets than yesterday. There was the Bills over the Vikings,
Speaker 1: and then that Cardinals win at Green Bay was a
Speaker 1: bigger upset than last night's game Among games this year,
Speaker 1: still last night given its ramifications in the position in
Speaker 1: the season. Absolutely right. So so Buffaloes five and nine?
Speaker 1: Now is they beat the Lions fourteen to thirteen. Robert
Speaker 1: Foster four catches a d eight yards in the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen big two yard leap to convert a fourth
Speaker 1: and one with a minute forty seven remaining in that game,
Speaker 1: hit Foster and Stride for a forty two yard go
Speaker 1: ahead touchdown with remaining Before that, Bills hung on largely
Speaker 1: because of that Allan conversion to eliminate the Lions from
Speaker 1: playoff contention. They're out of it too, Vinny, can are
Speaker 1: you sure that's awesome? Are you sure? I think I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Thirteen teams have been eliminated now seven yesterday. We just
Speaker 1: might as well list them. Broncos, Falcons, Lions, Giants, Bucks, Packers, Bengals, Astelo.
Speaker 1: Back to the Bills four and five now and nine
Speaker 1: starts with Josh Allen so along with her Edwards, head
Speaker 1: coach of a s U. And I know they lost
Speaker 1: to Fresno's day, but we all owe her med Words
Speaker 1: an apology, and we all owe Josh Allen an apology
Speaker 1: because we were sort of snickering about both these guys. Oh,
Speaker 1: how can the a s U hire her meed Words
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen he's gonna be come on and look
Speaker 1: at him, you know what, Besides Baker Mayfield, he might
Speaker 1: be the best of the rookie quarterbacks. He's having a
Speaker 1: pretty solid season. Did it yes rookie? Yeah? Did it
Speaker 1: yesterday without Shawn McCoy? Vinny, did he yesterday without Chris Ivory?
Speaker 1: McCoy with a left hamstring behind? What's that? You came
Speaker 1: from behind? Ivory had a shoulder injury he was enacting.
Speaker 1: And then Marcus Murphy didn't return after dislocating his left
Speaker 1: elbow in the second quarter, so he had nobody behind
Speaker 1: him either. And then there's the Patriots who lost to
Speaker 1: the Steelers. What's your takeaway from that game yesterday? Credit
Speaker 1: the Steelers for finally solving the Patriots. Well, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you asked Vinny. Couple of things. One, people who cited
Speaker 1: the you know, the Tomlin versus Belichick sample size stats
Speaker 1: shouldn't do that. He shouldn't do that. And I think
Speaker 1: that this Patriots team, I've been saying, Gronk is is
Speaker 1: done zo, Like we'll never see the will never see
Speaker 1: the same Gronk again. Yesterday two catches, and I think
Speaker 1: by and large, you see the Patriots doing things that
Speaker 1: we're not used to seeing them do. For instance, fourteen
Speaker 1: penalties yesterday, Minny for a hundred and six yards four penalty,
Speaker 1: big penalty on that last drive as well. Right, a
Speaker 1: false start was huge. Not very brady Esque though either.
Speaker 1: Right when you he said he was trying to throw
Speaker 1: that ball away that Hayden picked off, he said he
Speaker 1: was trying to throw that away. Still not Brady esque
Speaker 1: to your point. Credit to Steelers. It was absolutely must
Speaker 1: win for them and it was a bad spot though
Speaker 1: also for New England, Vinny. It was their fourth road
Speaker 1: game in five weeks. Well, you know what, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: get that, Gil, But they also had the front end
Speaker 1: of their schedule was very home field friendly, right, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's times during the course of these
Speaker 1: seasons where um teams and all that going in. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there were teams that have had worse.
Speaker 1: Look at both Green Bay and Minnesota having to go
Speaker 1: to Seattle and New England and back to back weeks.
Speaker 1: So no, absolutely mean, but be four listen, four World
Speaker 1: games in five weeks is bad, no matter what I
Speaker 1: get it. It was. It was the revenge game, right
Speaker 1: for Pittsburgh from the Jesse James game last year, from
Speaker 1: the Jesse James game from the playoff, that's right, several
Speaker 1: it was our what cubed, that's right, But the home
Speaker 1: road split thing is real. New England finishes the season.
Speaker 1: They finished the season away from Gillette Stadium at three
Speaker 1: and five straight up. That's the first I'm the Patriots
Speaker 1: have had a losing record on the road since two
Speaker 1: thousand nine. A win would have given them their tenth
Speaker 1: straight a FC East title. They still they still may
Speaker 1: get there, probably will, but it wasn't yesterday. And that
Speaker 1: jump ball to Gronkowski deep in Pittsburgh territory midway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that was picked off by cornerback Joe Hayden,
Speaker 1: Brady later said, trying to throw it away. Then to
Speaker 1: your point, Patriots had it second and five at the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh eleven with thirty seven seconds to go when right
Speaker 1: guard Shack Mason was hit with the holding penalty that
Speaker 1: pushed the ball back to the Pittsburgh one. The Patriots
Speaker 1: would get no closer. New England at home against Buffalo.
Speaker 1: All that said, this has got to be more than ten.
Speaker 1: I'll say ten and a hook, twelve and a half,
Speaker 1: All right, there'll be in every teaser next week that
Speaker 1: I can tell you. Yeah, twelve, twelve and a half
Speaker 1: makes sense. I'm okay with that, all right. Falcons and Panthers.
Speaker 1: Now bear in mind Panthers obviously played tonight. Um another
Speaker 1: home game for the Panthers. Here, um, yes, so site
Speaker 1: unseen on the Panthers, site unseen on the Panthers. Falcons,
Speaker 1: And we'll just do this one and we'll go to
Speaker 1: break here, Bennie Falcons. Tevin Coleman. Yesterday they crushed the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: by the way, crushed him. Tevin Coleman eleven carries a
Speaker 1: hundred forty five yards into touchdown. Julio Jones six catches,
Speaker 1: eighty two yards of a touchdown, four hundred thirty five
Speaker 1: totally yards of offense for the Falcons. Acrobatic touchdown cast
Speaker 1: from Julio and the win over the Cardinals. Falcons were
Speaker 1: nine and a half point favorites in that one. Dion
Speaker 1: Jones with a pick six for an early score. Cardinals
Speaker 1: are terrible. Falcons played their final home game of the season,
Speaker 1: force three turnovers, sacked Josh Rosen, and at one point
Speaker 1: yesterday it did got to nine and a half closed
Speaker 1: Falcons with with seven sacks of Rosen and Glenn and
Speaker 1: yesterday single season game high for a single season high
Speaker 1: for both teams, sacking and getting sacked Falcons, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: mathematically eliminated. This to me could be anywhere based on
Speaker 1: the performance tonight, Vinnie could be anywhere between Caroline and
Speaker 1: minus three, Caroline and minus six. Yeah, you're right. Uh,
Speaker 1: if they win tonight, it'll be closer to its three
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah. So yeah, that that to me
Speaker 1: is very volatile based on tonight. But we did post
Speaker 1: it alright, so nothing outrageous yet. Guessing lines Vinny Malulo
Speaker 1: and for Christie Andrews. That's what we do. Tribute to
Speaker 1: the old Start Us show right here on the Numbers
Speaker 1: Game Monday mornings at Vista. Now back to a Numbers
Speaker 1: Game with your host, Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our
Speaker 1: visa in studios in Las Vegas. A fair doing Wilford
Speaker 1: Brimley imitations for you, Vinnie, you were shows Diebetes, just
Speaker 1: kill it. Vinnie back here, just trying to see if
Speaker 1: it's trying to make Vine. That's all I try to
Speaker 1: do in between turn Around and Rich Little Guy. Um,
Speaker 1: apparently I have Sam Pane out of itches Mike here?
Speaker 1: Does he Does he know that his Mike is still
Speaker 1: in the studio? I don't know, but there's no way
Speaker 1: he knows. I think we should hold it hostage. Now
Speaker 1: hold it for ransom. He walks around with this thing
Speaker 1: you attached to him all the time. He's like, he
Speaker 1: walks around. I'm stunned down. It's a long bar. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: it said a little bit. I've seen him hanging out
Speaker 1: by the pool with it. Yeah, full full clothing at
Speaker 1: the lounge Share while everybody else's sun bathing. Sam's out
Speaker 1: there going, I'm Sam. There's no show going on. I'm
Speaker 1: cy Salmon. You don't have not Wendy City, Sam, and
Speaker 1: you're not Sultan on the South Side. It's our tribute
Speaker 1: to any city. Sam. All right, let's do one more here.
Speaker 1: But here we go Jaguars to play the Dolphins in Miami,
Speaker 1: so Florida. Full disclosure here. When Mitch and PAULI did
Speaker 1: in pocket, they had this as a pick. So I
Speaker 1: was told that this was Miami minus four and a half.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you something I'm incredulous about that. The
Speaker 1: word is incredulous. Did you say that or did I
Speaker 1: come out of Sam's That might have been Sam's Like, my,
Speaker 1: I have Miami minus seven hosting Jacksonville. I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler yesterday against the Redskins, nine of seventeen for
Speaker 1: fifty seven yards, no touchdowns, one pick, sacked six times.
Speaker 1: He did carry the ball, say starts for sixty eight yards.
Speaker 1: He's directed one touchdown drive in his last thirty one possessions.
Speaker 1: Are you listening to this vine, I'm listening. I'm listening
Speaker 1: to you made it seven? Yeah, they told me it
Speaker 1: was four and a half. That's correct, it was four
Speaker 1: and a half. That's crazy. All right, Well, there's your
Speaker 1: there's your first. Definitely, that's a play for you Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: When you factor in the sacks, they had twenty passing yards.
Speaker 1: They were minus two in turnovers. Yesterday they've dropped nine
Speaker 1: of ten. So, Doug Marone, you're on the clock. So
Speaker 1: are you? Tom Cockland home road split? Two? Right? Gil
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins, you're thinking Dolphins home road split. Big
Speaker 1: time home road split. As we talked about, the Jags
Speaker 1: now have double digit losses for the seventh time in
Speaker 1: the last eight years. Wait, that doesn't make any oh,
Speaker 1: double digit losses in their record. Yeah, they're four and
Speaker 1: ten now, so double digit losses for the seventh time
Speaker 1: in the last eight years. So think about the anomaly
Speaker 1: that was last year they were in the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship and probably should have won the a f
Speaker 1: C champions Ship. They were up in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. That is literally the one year in
Speaker 1: the last eight that they haven't had double digit losses.
Speaker 1: That's incredible. And Leonard Fournette. We talked about how there's
Speaker 1: no tanking in the NFL. Leonard Fournette touched the ball
Speaker 1: just once in the second half. And this was actually
Speaker 1: predetermined by the Jaguars where they said, hey, we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at some of the young guys. And
Speaker 1: you mean to tell me that Dolphins, who mathematically are
Speaker 1: still alive, are only four and a half point favorites
Speaker 1: in that game. You got to be kidding me. I'm
Speaker 1: very serious, my friend, Give me the Dolphins right now.
Speaker 1: You want the Dolphins, all right, You've got the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: because again, the Dolphins are two totally different teams. Dannehill
Speaker 1: eleven for one oh eight yesterday. He was sacked nine
Speaker 1: nine times by the Vikings. Caitlin Blage twelfth carries one
Speaker 1: or twenty three yards of it touched down for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: But again the Dolphins made the Vikings beat him twice.
Speaker 1: Yesterday they were down twenty one and nothing. The Dolphins
Speaker 1: were down twenty one nothing, and the Vikings had the
Speaker 1: ball and it looked at the Dolphins didn't even want
Speaker 1: to be there. And then Kirk Cousins did what Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins do. Do as Jalen Ramsey would say, pick six
Speaker 1: last couple a few weeks though, uh, would you say
Speaker 1: when you agree with that the Jaguars defense has been better?
Speaker 1: Offense is not good. I believe it was my mother
Speaker 1: who once said, you know Gilly better Schmider. I just
Speaker 1: don't think they're any good, alright, Dolphins shouldn't be four
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite seven seven. Chrissy's texting us,
Speaker 1: he's got something to say about what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's like, don't be an idiot kill Let's see
Speaker 1: what he says. See what Chrissy says live texting. H M,
Speaker 1: no context there. I'll have to revisit that a minute,
Speaker 1: all right. So that's a big one. That's a big difference.
Speaker 1: But again, the Dolphins, they they trailed twenty one and nothing,
Speaker 1: then it was seventeen and they lose the Vikings forty
Speaker 1: one to seventeen. So you got a four and a half.
Speaker 1: I got the Dolphins. I seven. That's crazy. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to break or do another one. It's a
Speaker 1: numbers game right here at Visa. More with Vinnie for Chrissy.
Speaker 1: Now back to a numbers game with your host Gil Alexander,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live from our Visa in studios in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: Back on the numbers game here at Visa, Vinny, last
Speaker 1: couple of things about the Dolphins, who you said our
Speaker 1: four and a half point favorites over tax Ball Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and I'm just absolutely incredulous to use that word again.
Speaker 1: I think you should be Miami minus seven. But the
Speaker 1: last couple of things about this game when it got
Speaker 1: to twenty one to seventeen, after that point yesterday with
Speaker 1: the Dolphins and the Vikings, on the next five Dolphins
Speaker 1: possessions they netted are you ready for this? Five possessions
Speaker 1: they netted minus twenty seven yards on sixteen plays. Wow,
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks in there. Uh. Just the Dolphins
Speaker 1: fifth loss in their last seventeen games that Tannehill started,
Speaker 1: and Miami gave up thirty plus points for a six
Speaker 1: game this season in four d plus yards for the
Speaker 1: ninth time this year. So again home road split, feast
Speaker 1: or famine the Dolphins two different football teams. All right, next,
Speaker 1: what do we got Giants in? Indeed to play the Colts.
Speaker 1: Giants ten penalties, fifty eight yards and they're shutout. Loss
Speaker 1: to the Titans, first time New York blanked since Christmas
Speaker 1: Eve last year. New York only losing for the second
Speaker 1: time in six games since the bye week, and they
Speaker 1: have now missed New York Giants fans, you have now
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs two straight years and have made it
Speaker 1: once since the twelve season. Odell Beckham Jr. Missing his
Speaker 1: second straight game with the quad problem yesterday, and when
Speaker 1: do you that we're a dog at the kickoff? Yesterday?
Speaker 1: Started as a favorite dog a kickoff and the Colts
Speaker 1: blank the Cowboys. As we mentioned, Marlon max n three nil?
Speaker 1: What is nil? Mill? What is nils famous? It's a
Speaker 1: famous Christie Andrews story. What is nil? That's a great story,
Speaker 1: my story time classic Marlon Mack for the Occults yesterday,
Speaker 1: seven carries one nine yards, two touchdowns and the Colts
Speaker 1: continue their third down prowess on offense under Frank Wright.
Speaker 1: Eight of twelve on third downs? What is the commonality?
Speaker 1: What is the common thread between this year's Colts and
Speaker 1: last year's Eagles, both third down juggernauts on offense. Frank Reich,
Speaker 1: the author of the Greatest Comeback in both college and
Speaker 1: pro football history. University of Maryland, Buffalo Bills UM Colts
Speaker 1: minus ten hosting the Giants nine and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: probably get yeah, And everybody who thinks will be teased heavily, heavily,
Speaker 1: and everybody these last couple of weeks are like, oh
Speaker 1: the Giants, okay, stop stop already. Yeah, it's a man,
Speaker 1: oh man. You wonder what kind of changes are going
Speaker 1: to be with the Giants in the off season, right listen.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm on the Giant side with the
Speaker 1: whole se Quon thing though, because everybody is like, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: you're the only way you get better is with the
Speaker 1: better quarterback? Is a quarterback league? Kids? Good? But every
Speaker 1: so everyone was, you know, but there was a lot
Speaker 1: of people who who just don't think you draft a
Speaker 1: running back that high. But you know what, se Quan
Speaker 1: might be generational, just like Khalil Mack was generational. Vinnie
Speaker 1: and still is someone point that up. Sorry. I know
Speaker 1: you also don't like when I say, don't bring a
Speaker 1: baseball team to Vegas. I get you upset when I
Speaker 1: say stuff like that. It doesn't get me upset. It's
Speaker 1: just I want you know, they bring a baseball team.
Speaker 1: You need a dome, you needed dome stadium, You need people,
Speaker 1: You need people to fill it in, right, I mean
Speaker 1: I just don't anyway. Um, so it is ted. No,
Speaker 1: he said nine and a half. Nine and a half
Speaker 1: opened here at the subpoint. Yeah, these all makes sense
Speaker 1: to me except for that Dolphins jacks. That Dolphins jacks
Speaker 1: is wrong. Give me the Dolphins, all right, Um, guessing line.
Speaker 1: So we have one so far, one so far. Then
Speaker 1: that appears we we used twelve and a half. You
Speaker 1: said ten a half. Yeah, alright, not crazy. You want
Speaker 1: to you want to get to the counter for the
Speaker 1: Dolphins here. Yeah, we got a break right here. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get to the rest of the skids. We got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch more games to get to here, trying
Speaker 1: to isolate value, we got one maybe more to come.
Speaker 1: Remember last week I was outraged by three. Two ended
Speaker 1: up proving to be correct. One not so much, not
Speaker 1: so much. Um, it is a funny league. And someone
Speaker 1: would saying you made all that money on Saturday, but
Speaker 1: on meaningless Bowl games, And I said, Dohm, I go.
Speaker 1: You keep saying that I'd rather bet those than this
Speaker 1: Plinko sports the NFL, Right, I mean, you gotta be
Speaker 1: kidding me with this sport. And it's not like you
Speaker 1: blew it all back yesterday. That's rights coming back with
Speaker 1: Vinny and for Christy on guesting lines right here on VISA.
Speaker 1: Support for today's show has always brought you by book
Speaker 1: Maker dot Eu. As you know, for years, I did
Speaker 1: not have a sponsor on this podcast, not because people
Speaker 1: didn't approach me because I really didn't believe in any
Speaker 1: of them. But Bookmaker dout of you is the real deal.
Speaker 1: I've been using them for years and swear by them.
Speaker 1: Couldn't do my business with at them. They're an industry
Speaker 1: leader for close to thirty years. Professional players consider them
Speaker 1: a must because their first to post odds, take the
Speaker 1: highest limits, and pride themselves on never having kicked out
Speaker 1: a winning player. Just think about those three things. Take
Speaker 1: the highest limits, bride themselves on never having kicked out
Speaker 1: a winning player. First to post odds. What a rare, rare,
Speaker 1: the rarest of commodities in this day and age. Bookmaker
Speaker 1: high volume sports book best suited for the sophisticated player
Speaker 1: who understands sports betting. Large recreational players are catered to
Speaker 1: as well, and their motto where the lines originate is
Speaker 1: the case, because chances are your sports book follows their line.
Speaker 1: And once again, as we've been doing all season long,
Speaker 1: if you visit Bookmaker dot eu slash gill that's Bookmaker
Speaker 1: dot eu slash g I l L visit them now,
Speaker 1: you can join and claim an exclusive welcome bonus of
Speaker 1: up to three hundred dollars. As Bookmaker dot eu slash
Speaker 1: g I l l gil that's me to join and
Speaker 1: claim your welcome bonus of the three hundred dollars. Check
Speaker 1: it out book Maker dot eu slash gill. Back to
Speaker 1: a Numbers game with your host, Gil Alexander, broadcasting live
Speaker 1: from our Visa in studios in Las Vegas. Our number
Speaker 1: two of a numbers game right here in Visa the
Speaker 1: Vegas Stats and Information Network series SEX same channel to
Speaker 1: a four Visa dot com, the Visa app Fubo TV.
Speaker 1: I get it all again, man, I got it. I
Speaker 1: got Foobo in there. It's kill Alexander Matt Jones is
Speaker 1: here something Matale, Hello, Matteo. We're calling him mateo, Vinnie, mateo, Matto.
Speaker 1: That's it, Vinnie, isn't for From Georgie Bueno to Mateo.
Speaker 1: Georgie Bueno to Mateo. That's beautiful, that's beautiful. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll turn your mic on yet, but Georgie Bueno,
Speaker 1: as we say, moved on to work with an up
Speaker 1: and comer by the name of Musburger in the afternoons. Yep,
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to pass that audition. Georgie runs a
Speaker 1: tight sheet, runs it rules with an iron fist. That
Speaker 1: kid tell you. Um. So we're guessing lines for Week
Speaker 1: sixteen in the NFL. It does our final guessing line
Speaker 1: show of the year. We do not do a Week
Speaker 1: seventeen guessing line show because it is squarely and by
Speaker 1: the time we when we get on the air Monday morning,
Speaker 1: the truth is that half the lines typically are not
Speaker 1: available um the Monday morning of the of the final week,
Speaker 1: because playoff implications exist for some teams, they don't for others.
Speaker 1: You don't know who's playing who's not. Just a squarely week.
Speaker 1: I don't do a makeupot either that week. We're starting
Speaker 1: to see that even there'll be a couple instances this
Speaker 1: week to in fact, we'll get to Uh, okay, Chris Andrews.
Speaker 1: I just chatted with him all fair by the way,
Speaker 1: shout out to Chrissie listening and uh doing a great job.
Speaker 1: What an honor to be in this big shoes to
Speaker 1: film this. People should know if they're tuning Chris, Chrissy's Chris.
Speaker 1: He's good. He just has his treatments during this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's he's at the house right now as we speak, listening.
Speaker 1: And of course he phoned in the openers to Lou
Speaker 1: Argin behind the counter and uh chatting with Lou back
Speaker 1: there and Chris he was on the line. So and
Speaker 1: tell everybody what Chris he said to you, Chris, he said,
Speaker 1: a good show, good show so far? And then what
Speaker 1: do you say? With any pause? And said, don't tell Gill?
Speaker 1: I said so, but then he laughed, would tell Gil.
Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, all right, we're gonna give Chrissie
Speaker 1: a tribute here coming up because there's a there's a
Speaker 1: betting vehicle that he invented that we don't say often
Speaker 1: enough that he invented that. I want to talk about
Speaker 1: next set, we'll get the card and we'll show the
Speaker 1: folks in an example by getting the card VIDI vin
Speaker 1: He's like, we'll send someone out there to get one.
Speaker 1: We'll send Yeah, I'm busy. I'm in here with you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You won't let me Matt Jones won't Mateo, won't let
Speaker 1: me leave. You're stuck, stuck. Let's do another game here,
Speaker 1: A lot of games to get two weeks ago. Here
Speaker 1: we go, Texans Eagles. Good game. Now, yes means something,
Speaker 1: doesn't it. The Texans, who currently have the number two
Speaker 1: position in the a f C. Let me say that again.
Speaker 1: The a f C SO playoffs were to start today,
Speaker 1: I love that exercise. They'd have a bye with the Texans.
Speaker 1: The Texans started out in three and are now ten
Speaker 1: and four. And if you recalled Vinny. Year one, Brent
Speaker 1: asked me after the Patriots Falcons, give me the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl value plan. I said, Eagles thirty to one. Bengo, Bengo.
Speaker 1: Then next year, after the Eagles won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: right after that game, he said, what's your pick for
Speaker 1: next year? I said, Houston twenty one, best value play,
Speaker 1: but again, pre flop futures are terrible. No, not enough
Speaker 1: bang for your buck. But anyway, just to point that out,
Speaker 1: I want to point that up. So now Philly is
Speaker 1: at seven and seven. Philly is a half game out
Speaker 1: of the second wild card position. The Vikings are seven
Speaker 1: six in one, and the psychological boost less huge. And
Speaker 1: we put that victory in context with the Mark Lawrence
Speaker 1: tweet the war and sharp tweet earlier in case you
Speaker 1: missed it, but it is the third biggest upset of
Speaker 1: the season. But in terms of Super Bowl champions being involved, um,
Speaker 1: it's monster historically, and the Eagles now with Nick Foles,
Speaker 1: the magic that is Nick Foles beat the Rams last
Speaker 1: night thirty to twenty three. They do so outright is
Speaker 1: thirteen and a half point favorites. Only the Bills went
Speaker 1: over the Vikings and the Cardinals went over the Packers
Speaker 1: were bigger upsets this season. Deshaun Watson on Saturday for
Speaker 1: the Texans, let's start there. He was twenty two of
Speaker 1: twenty eight against the Jets for two two touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 1: but you know been he he was sacked six times
Speaker 1: and if you watch him play, he holds on at
Speaker 1: the ball way too late, too long. You would think
Speaker 1: by now that he wouldn't put, you know, credit to
Speaker 1: Jets although that game. The result of that game to
Speaker 1: want that field goal at the end that game fell
Speaker 1: seven good for the much better for the betters than yes,
Speaker 1: and the Jets missed two extra points in that game.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this about the Texans once again.
Speaker 1: This is a season were they Jedi mind tricked Frank
Speaker 1: Reich in overtime, Frank Reich going forward in his own
Speaker 1: territory failing Texans had to get one first down and
Speaker 1: they kicked in winning field goal. The Jedi mind trick
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett who punted in Texans territory, and over time
Speaker 1: Texans ended up winning the Jedi mind trick vance Joseph
Speaker 1: at the end of the first half against Denver Man's
Speaker 1: Joseph did some squirrely coaching things. Bill O'Brien ends up
Speaker 1: with the field goal instead of the Broncos. That was
Speaker 1: the margin of victory in that game. It goes on
Speaker 1: and on pick six against Buffalo, a game they had
Speaker 1: no business winning. Late What am I forgetting? There's others
Speaker 1: Jets missing two extra points. Stuff goes the Texans way
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna Jedi Nick Foles. No.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool customer. By the way, the Texans against the
Speaker 1: Jets just one of nine on third downs, but DeAndre
Speaker 1: Hopkins was everything. Ten catches, a hundred seventy yards, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: including that fourteen yarder with two fifteen left that gave
Speaker 1: the Texans, or lifted them, really the victory. You're right,
Speaker 1: there was a right there. What a catching made. Morris
Speaker 1: Claiborne was all over him. What a catch. And then
Speaker 1: as you point out, Cammy Fairburn forty yard field goals,
Speaker 1: fifth kick of the game, made fifty four seconds left.
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller left that game with an ankle injury in
Speaker 1: the second Cord didn't return. But Bill O'Brien didn't think,
Speaker 1: quote it's a major unquote Nick Foles yesterday against the Rams,
Speaker 1: thirty one for two seventy, no touchdowns, one pick, sacked,
Speaker 1: zero times. They never got close to Folds last night.
Speaker 1: Folds hadn't played since Week two. Carson wentz out with
Speaker 1: a back injury that could sidelined him for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. You gotta figure you at this point,
Speaker 1: what do you do if he's like, well, it's it's
Speaker 1: a vertebrate, I think. Yeah, I mean from a look
Speaker 1: most important safety obviously, Um, you know it's it's just
Speaker 1: futures to his life. Yeah, he's I would says he's done.
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson, Philadelphia head coach, declining to say whether Fulls
Speaker 1: would start next week against Houston. But you'd have to
Speaker 1: figure he would. Alshon Jeffrey yesterday was everywhere. Eight matches
Speaker 1: for a hundred sixty yards. But yeah, like I had
Speaker 1: a vertebrae thing and I'm complaining about my arm for
Speaker 1: like three weeks on the show. You want him to
Speaker 1: play professional football? It's a vertebrae for God's six. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Houston buy three at Philly. That's my guess. Houston by three, Yes,
Speaker 1: even after last night, Yes, pick them. Wow, That's all
Speaker 1: it took was one game. Look at the Eagles vibe
Speaker 1: after that game. They are They're alive here gil Um
Speaker 1: in Philly. It will be, It'll be raucous, it will be.
Speaker 1: This will be a good game. It should be a
Speaker 1: good test for the Texans. We'll find out if that
Speaker 1: Jedi Jedi mind tricking is going to continue here. Eagles
Speaker 1: get a dose of it here in Philadelphia and let
Speaker 1: me just say this once again. The Eagles and the
Speaker 1: Redskins are both seven and seven. They're both a aim
Speaker 1: out of the lead in the NFC East. They're both
Speaker 1: a half game out of the final wild card position.
Speaker 1: The Redskins have zero chance for either. The Eagles are
Speaker 1: very much in the wild card race. The Eagles really
Speaker 1: don't have a shot, I mean realistically speaking at the
Speaker 1: NFC East title because they'd have to win out. Cowboys
Speaker 1: would have to lose out in the Cowboys have pretty
Speaker 1: easy schedule here down the stretch. The Eagles do not
Speaker 1: have an easy schedule. But the Eagles very much into
Speaker 1: the wild card position. Uh, they're very much in the
Speaker 1: wild card possibilities in the right. So it's that's a
Speaker 1: pick them, huh, pick them. Okay, there you go, all right.
Speaker 1: Next next Vikings in Detroit to play the Lions. Speaking
Speaker 1: up a team that holds the number two wild card position,
Speaker 1: it is the Vikings at seven six and one at
Speaker 1: Detroit lost. As we mentioned to Buffalo Dalvin Cook yesterday,
Speaker 1: for the Vikings nineteen carries season high nineteen carries for
Speaker 1: a career high one thirty six yards two touchdowns. The
Speaker 1: Vikings out gained the Dolphins total yards four eight in
Speaker 1: passing yards thirty seven, that's what all the sacks factored in,
Speaker 1: and a team season high forty rushing attempts for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: That of course precipitated by Mike Zimmer telling new interim
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator Kevin Stefanski, Hey, the other guy that I
Speaker 1: just fired Di Filippo. Yeah, he didn't run the ball enough,
Speaker 1: and so Stefanski got on it, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: Anthony barr H Danielle Hunter each had two of the
Speaker 1: nine sacks of Ryan Tannehill, totally seventy one lost yards
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins, and the Vikings could clinch the second
Speaker 1: wild card spot next week. I gotta win this one though.
Speaker 1: As part of that, they needed only nineteen plays at
Speaker 1: the beginning of that game yesterday, the Vikings keeping the
Speaker 1: ball on the ground twelve times to go to a
Speaker 1: twenty one to nothing lead nineteen plays up twenty one
Speaker 1: and nothing. As I said, they had to win that
Speaker 1: game twice because then Kirk Cousins through the pick six,
Speaker 1: because that's what Kirk Cousins does. And yeah, I've said
Speaker 1: that a couple of times, said a couple of times
Speaker 1: bitter redskin fan talking, uh, and it got seventeen. Every
Speaker 1: game has a redskin. That's not true. Just the Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins have been just the Kirk Cousins once two hundred
Speaker 1: two yards. By the way, the Vikings game the highest
Speaker 1: first quarter total in the NFL this season two D
Speaker 1: two yards of offense Detroit. No need to get into it.
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay had a good game. Those seven catches a
Speaker 1: D forty six yards. Minnesota by four and a half
Speaker 1: on the road. Five and a half sounds about alf
Speaker 1: there go, all right, here's an interesting game. Packers Jets Packers?
Speaker 1: Is that interesting? It meant life to play the Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's interesting. When we get further along
Speaker 1: in a conversation. Oh, this might have something to do
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, I think so. He says he
Speaker 1: wants to play. He says he wants to play. Should
Speaker 1: he play? The Packers are eliminated their five eight and
Speaker 1: one Jets or four and ten. By the way, for
Speaker 1: those of us who were early on the Jets on
Speaker 1: the over, we got the Jets at five on the
Speaker 1: season win totals. These games have implications. DeVante yesterday Davantae Adams,
Speaker 1: not Davante swing from Joda see Davantae Adams eight catches,
Speaker 1: one nineteen yards for the Packers and their loss to
Speaker 1: the Bears. But that loss, coupled with Minnesota's win over Miami,
Speaker 1: knocks the Packers out of the postseason for the second
Speaker 1: year in a row. UH sixty three remaining, The Packers
Speaker 1: drove to the nine, but on third down, Eddie Jackson
Speaker 1: picked off Rodgers on the deflection, ending his consecutive passes
Speaker 1: streak with note picks at four hundred two passes and
Speaker 1: the Packers home road splits. We talked about it oh
Speaker 1: N seven on the road with their ninth straight loss
Speaker 1: away from home, their eight game win streak at Soldier
Speaker 1: Field also snapping. Aaron Jones left the game with the
Speaker 1: knee injury in the first quarter, did not return. Jets,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned on Saturday, lost to the Texans. But
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, can I say this when you watch that game,
Speaker 1: There's two things. Deshaun Watson hold the ball too long
Speaker 1: and Sam Donald looked unafraid of that Texans defense. He
Speaker 1: looked very confident, pretty fearless. I mean again, uh for
Speaker 1: a rookie battle. I mean he said, Look, I'm there,
Speaker 1: I'm the future. I'm gonna continue to battle, learn as
Speaker 1: I go. Sometimes the lessons are painful for both fans
Speaker 1: and betters. That's right. But they were nine of seventeen
Speaker 1: on third downs where the Jets in that game donalty
Speaker 1: for two fifty three touchdown past Robby Anderson, Andre Roberts
Speaker 1: and as I mentioned, Jason Meyer missing two extra points. Uh,
Speaker 1: if it's Rogers, then the Packers are favored by two
Speaker 1: and a half. If it's not Rogers and it's Huntley,
Speaker 1: then the Jets are favored by three. Yeah. Here, here's
Speaker 1: the thing, Gill and Uh, that was actually the main
Speaker 1: reason Chris called was because so the Packers did open
Speaker 1: as two point favorites. So but the fact of the
Speaker 1: matters the Jets are now too. And that's by not
Speaker 1: on air, as we say, this is play. So Jets
Speaker 1: are favored by two Jets or two because because the
Speaker 1: speculations Rogers strong opinion yeah By and this is this
Speaker 1: is not the public com betting this, This is respected
Speaker 1: opinions that believe he's not going to play, at least
Speaker 1: at this point. So the Jets are now too. So
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're spot on. I mean, he plays
Speaker 1: their their favorite if he doesn't the Jets. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: so that makes that makes total sense. And for those
Speaker 1: of us, again we have Jets tickets, we obviously want
Speaker 1: Rogers not to play. But now is is Rogers is
Speaker 1: a speculation on Rogers not playing? Is that because oh,
Speaker 1: your leg is still hurt? Or is that because you're
Speaker 1: a sour bus and you don't want to be here
Speaker 1: so just go? Or is it a combination of both
Speaker 1: that's going to be under the guy? I think it's
Speaker 1: I think it. Listen, I think when you think when
Speaker 1: you look at the season, Let's face, he got hurt
Speaker 1: in that first game of the season, did against the Bears,
Speaker 1: the Bears, right, and then miraculously showed up in the
Speaker 1: second half, parted off at halftime, and then remember we
Speaker 1: didn't know if he was gonna play in this second exactly.
Speaker 1: I mean, certainly we know it would have been a
Speaker 1: completely different number at half halftime in that game. But
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter, as he did. He's been
Speaker 1: he's been hurt all the year, and um, why would
Speaker 1: you what do you really need to play him? I mean,
Speaker 1: I get it, he's supposed to say look, I'm the
Speaker 1: leader of the team. Yeah, I want to play, of
Speaker 1: course he does, but really think about, you know, risking.
Speaker 1: He missed passes yesterday. He's been missing passes all year.
Speaker 1: He's not right. You know, we want to blame stuff
Speaker 1: on McCarthy. He has not had a good year. Credit
Speaker 1: credit his his willingness to compete. But at some point too,
Speaker 1: if it's affecting, uh, the efficiency and performance, then maybe
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's time to just say, look, you know what.
Speaker 1: So the sentiment out there is that he will not
Speaker 1: play that right, at least at this point. This is
Speaker 1: not the general public weighing in at this point. Yeah, So,
Speaker 1: how many more games do we have? Any We've got
Speaker 1: three five on Sunday and one and the Monday night game.
Speaker 1: Five on Sunday, Monday night. All right, let's take a
Speaker 1: break here, let's come back. All right, let's do the
Speaker 1: rest of them. So a few really good games with
Speaker 1: playoff implications that we've already talked about. Um, obviously Houston
Speaker 1: at Philadelphia being one of those games, Ravens Chargers on Saturday. Um.
Speaker 1: There are some clunkers out there for sure too. But
Speaker 1: there's a there's about well we'll see if there's a
Speaker 1: couple more that are playoff that that involved two contending
Speaker 1: playoff teams. But those are good ones right now. The
Speaker 1: one that outrages me the most is uh again, the
Speaker 1: Dolphins should be way higher of a favorite against the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: and then you had Houston and Philly as a pick
Speaker 1: um and I had Houston as a three point favorite.
Speaker 1: I think your your your number is probably better than mine. Clearly,
Speaker 1: all right, we'll do more. Yeah, go ahead and see
Speaker 1: what you wanted to kil I think you should. That's
Speaker 1: the number is better than yours, you know, That's that's
Speaker 1: what Just to remind uful, that's the exercise. We make
Speaker 1: our numbers, post numbers. Professionals like yourself do the same.
Speaker 1: And you make numbers and you compare them, and that's
Speaker 1: where you you find that you perceive yours why we do.
Speaker 1: And I think your number is in the retrospect. I
Speaker 1: think your number is better in that game, and I
Speaker 1: think my number is better than Miami game. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: what I think. We'll do more of these. Six more
Speaker 1: games to go in Clint in two primetime games Week
Speaker 1: six D in the NFL. It's getting good coming up
Speaker 1: on a numbers game in Vista. Back to a numbers
Speaker 1: game with your host Gil Alexander broadcasting live from our
Speaker 1: visa in studios in Las Vegas. Back on the numbers
Speaker 1: game here at Bison. It is the Vegas that's in
Speaker 1: Information Network, Serious Sex and Channel two oh four Skill Alexander.
Speaker 1: Matt Jeles is here. Vinnie Maliulo in for Chrissie Andrews.
Speaker 1: Do we get that car yet or no? We okay?
Speaker 1: In transit? In transit we wanted a visual aid. Does
Speaker 1: the visual aid really help on this? I think? Well,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about something that Chrissy invented and offered.
Speaker 1: Chrissie Andrews, for those who don't know, has invented many
Speaker 1: things that we now take for granted, one of which
Speaker 1: is the the three team ten point tease. Didn't exist
Speaker 1: before young Chrissie Andrews said, Hey, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do. I'm gonna put three teams together and make
Speaker 1: it a ten point teaser. YEP, available everywhere these days. Um,
Speaker 1: he did not invent uh the the Greek classic musa ka.
Speaker 1: He did not do he does he taste? Does he
Speaker 1: take credit for that? He take credit for what they
Speaker 1: did not. So I'm just saying, all right, you know what,
Speaker 1: Lombardi tweeted something yesterday that I take credit for Lombardi.
Speaker 1: Michael Lombard to our friend, tweeted, clearly Cooper Cup is
Speaker 1: the league's m v P. That's right out of me
Speaker 1: saying that to him a couple of times on the show.
Speaker 1: That's what I joke about, Cooper Gop. Clearly the way
Speaker 1: the Rams are blaming Cooper Cup has to be the
Speaker 1: m v P. Right. I think Michael Lombardi will say
Speaker 1: that Mitchell Robiski is now the price of that. So
Speaker 1: you think I I You think I I shoehorned the
Speaker 1: Redskins and everything. Lombardi shoehorns at your biscuite compensation. There,
Speaker 1: he's like, he does. That reminds me of how bad
Speaker 1: Mitchell Drobiskie is. Love Lombardi. He does a great job,
Speaker 1: and my conversations with him are I look forward to
Speaker 1: those more than his insights. You know, Christie invented. That's
Speaker 1: what he said, but I don't. We'll get to something
Speaker 1: else that Christie and met it coming up on the show. Um,
Speaker 1: let's do one more. Here we go, Let's do a
Speaker 1: couple more Bengals browns, Oh god, Bengals are out of it.
Speaker 1: Six and eight. Joe Mixon fills up a statuet, though
Speaker 1: doesn't He carries a d twenty nine yards two touchdowns
Speaker 1: in the Bengals win over your Raiders Manny thirty to
Speaker 1: sixteen win um ended one of their longest losing streets
Speaker 1: of the Bengals, that is under coach Marvin Lewis, and
Speaker 1: that saying they covers three point favorites. But again, I've
Speaker 1: eliminated from the playoffs for the third straight season. Bengals
Speaker 1: had dropped five straight. That was their third worst slump
Speaker 1: during Louis's sixteen seasons. Bengals first win since October here's
Speaker 1: how bad it is in since Sennata. They distributed Vinnie
Speaker 1: forty four thousand, five hundred and sixty eight tickets for
Speaker 1: its final home game, and the Bengals ended up with
Speaker 1: the second smallest season attendants in Baul Brown Stadium's nineteen seasons.
Speaker 1: The Steelers win over the Patriots later ended their miniscule
Speaker 1: chances of of winning the a f C North as well. Cleveland,
Speaker 1: as we mentioned, uh they won on Saturday. They beat
Speaker 1: the Broncos seventeen to sixteen. We haven't talked about this
Speaker 1: game really in depth yet. A coaching uh, sort of
Speaker 1: force of crapitude from Vans Joseph at the end tour,
Speaker 1: the force of gratitude as he elects to kick a
Speaker 1: field goal late in that game instead of going for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and one and had no corners. Thousand
Speaker 1: coaches in the stands were, yes, incredulous these that word again, right,
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb for the for the Browns, twenty carries one
Speaker 1: dred yards, including right after that choice to go for
Speaker 1: a field goal a forty four yards can excuse me?
Speaker 1: Forty yards scamper on the first play of the ensuing drive,
Speaker 1: which drove it home for the Browns. Still, the Browns
Speaker 1: made a decision late in that game to go for
Speaker 1: it on fourth and one, which I actually like that
Speaker 1: they went for it up four points, excuse me, up
Speaker 1: one point? Excuse me. I like that they went for it.
Speaker 1: May not like the play call, but I like that
Speaker 1: they went for it eleven straight times. Denver had beaten Cleveland.
Speaker 1: A lot of streaks broken in the NFL yesterday, and
Speaker 1: and the Brownies alive. Brownies alive, One shot chance I'll
Speaker 1: tell you this about the Browns. They will be It's
Speaker 1: certainly one of, if not the most popular team in
Speaker 1: this upcome offseason. So in other words, futures folks will
Speaker 1: be anxious to bet their regular season wins, just like
Speaker 1: a year ago we were with San Francisco, right with
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo going there and having that great run at
Speaker 1: the end of the year. Um, but there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of interest in the in the Browns, and
Speaker 1: rightfully so. I mean, it's a team on the rise
Speaker 1: in up and coming. I think Hard Knocks with the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Rounds was the greatest Hard Knocks ever. This past
Speaker 1: offseason was so great. The the lack of respect angle
Speaker 1: that Todd Haley and Greg Williams appeared to have for
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson, the fact they had Tyrod Taylor Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: backing him up, the Antonio Callaway sort of rookie angle,
Speaker 1: and Totio Callaway. With the two yard touchdown catch from
Speaker 1: Baby Baker Mayfield just under twelve minutes left, providing the
Speaker 1: winning margin, Browns still have a shot at their first
Speaker 1: winning season since two thousand seven, even their first playoff
Speaker 1: berth As you say, any since two thousand two, thanks
Speaker 1: to their first win over Denver since vance Joseph when
Speaker 1: taking a task and when asked about his decision to
Speaker 1: kick a field goal with four thirty five left to
Speaker 1: make the score seventeen to sixteen as opposed to going
Speaker 1: for first down and a chance of a touchdown after
Speaker 1: that quote, I wanted points there. We had about four
Speaker 1: thirty five left, We had one time out in the
Speaker 1: two minute warning. I trust our defense to get a
Speaker 1: stop there, unquote, but I don't trust our offensive score. Right.
Speaker 1: That's the cloud bubble over his head. That's the thought bubble.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned, Nick Chubb reels off the forty yard
Speaker 1: run on the first play after that. We can't let
Speaker 1: that happen, Von Miller said. But the Broncos did come
Speaker 1: up with a big stop on fourth and one from
Speaker 1: the Denver ten when Cleveland's interim coach Greg Williams went
Speaker 1: for it and Chubb was dropped for a two yard
Speaker 1: loss by Adam Gotsis. Williams said Greg Williams when asked
Speaker 1: about that Blake quote, we came up here to win
Speaker 1: a ball game. That's what they all say. By the way,
Speaker 1: they all say the same thing. Coach speak. We came
Speaker 1: up here in away just as we came up here
Speaker 1: to losing. We get it, we get it. You came
Speaker 1: up here to win, right, I got it. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's worried about me not being aggressive, and we
Speaker 1: came up here to win it offensively. We're going to
Speaker 1: win it. Right there, he said we're going to win
Speaker 1: it three times there. I thought Brimley was back. No, No,
Speaker 1: that's diabetes. I'll have to do to make Vinnie laugh
Speaker 1: and say that. Well, Wilfrid Brimley used to have an
Speaker 1: informercial about diabetes. You remember that. It was all right?
Speaker 1: So wait, I have to guess the line right now?
Speaker 1: You got at home a touchdown. Uh here, we opened
Speaker 1: it six and a half. Full disclosure, Gil, it is
Speaker 1: now at seven seven. And let's remember this when I'm
Speaker 1: giving these openers here at the south point. These are
Speaker 1: in the system for betting or not just for we're
Speaker 1: not just taking about right there there, Brown's open six
Speaker 1: and a half. And as we speak here at the
Speaker 1: sub point, that a seven point favorites. When Chrissy was here,
Speaker 1: we used to post them right after the show, but
Speaker 1: you and Chrissy put him up at the beginning. You know,
Speaker 1: they're they're in the system, and I love us call
Speaker 1: on it. So yeah, alright, let's all right, Rams in
Speaker 1: Arizona will play the Cardinals. Rams were once eleven and one,
Speaker 1: a top of the football world. Now they're eleven and three,
Speaker 1: and after tonight they may know that home field will
Speaker 1: not be theirs throughout the playoffs, Saints can clinch it.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is even if the Saints lose tonight, let's
Speaker 1: remember that they have that head to head tiebreaker with
Speaker 1: the Rams. So head and and home field is everything. Well, again,
Speaker 1: when we've talked about this skill, uh, who do you
Speaker 1: think who do you give a better chance to win
Speaker 1: at the other place? I said this last week, So
Speaker 1: do you give the Viking, I mean the Saints a
Speaker 1: better chance to win in Los Angeles compared to the
Speaker 1: Rams in New Orleans? Right, so it's obviously the Saints,
Speaker 1: so huge, huge game. But as you mentioned, uh, if
Speaker 1: you have to pick a super Bowl right now, who
Speaker 1: do you think is in the Super Bowl? Any very
Speaker 1: simple questions? Well, I think here here's how I would
Speaker 1: answer that. Guilt Uh, you know in our world, right,
Speaker 1: so if you're you know you you you're sitting there saying,
Speaker 1: well to meet in the super Bowl. You know, you
Speaker 1: think about the futures, you think about possible props and things.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously the Saints are the the NFC favorite
Speaker 1: right now, but question marks there right, I mean, good
Speaker 1: luck uh picking it and uh man, I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what you forget, you know, putting record aside, but performance lately,
Speaker 1: and you gotta look at the Chargers stares Saints in
Speaker 1: the super Charges for the reasons we talked about at
Speaker 1: the beginning. The Chargers are just never They're always dangerous
Speaker 1: and again they're never out of a game, never out
Speaker 1: of a game, you know, So Philip rivers appreciation now
Speaker 1: that could change again, We've still got a ways to go.
Speaker 1: And that's not saying that. Look that's who I think
Speaker 1: is going to be. But when you look at the
Speaker 1: landscape and the you know the results of the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks and scenarios, I think those two right
Speaker 1: now probably there. Everybody's flawed, that's for sure. Definitely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who are the Rams? Are you get here Rams or
Speaker 1: in Arizona to play the Cardinals? Should we start with
Speaker 1: the Cardinals? Cardinals? Cardinals lose to the Falcons and losing
Speaker 1: a big way. Josh Rosen thirteen of twenty two for
Speaker 1: one thirty two, no touchdowns, two picks sacked six times.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for the Cardinals of the scored the fewest
Speaker 1: points right in the league. If I'm not mistaken, yesterday
Speaker 1: were over thinking for the season. Well, the lowest scoring
Speaker 1: team will effort that. I believe that's true. Mike Glennon
Speaker 1: in relief ten of fourteen for one eleven, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: no picks sacked once, sixty total rushing yards for the
Speaker 1: Cardinals yesterday, there were minus three in turnovers. They've dropped
Speaker 1: two straight five or six under Steve Wilkes, who I
Speaker 1: don't know. If there's a first year coach who might
Speaker 1: be in trouble, maybe it's him. Arizona's run defense allowed
Speaker 1: two fifteen yards to the NFL's worst rushing attack yesterday.
Speaker 1: UM offensive lines battered for the Cardinals, though, I will
Speaker 1: say that Josh Rosen finished with a thirty eight point
Speaker 1: four passer rating. That's at a one eight point three UM.
Speaker 1: So yeah, all bad. And then the Rams last night,
Speaker 1: as we've talked about, Jared Goff thirty five fifty three,
Speaker 1: thirty nine but no touchdowns, two picks sacked once, Todd
Speaker 1: Gurley twelve carries forty eight yards to touchdowns, ten reception
Speaker 1: seventy six yards. But as I mentioned, both Everett and
Speaker 1: Girly ever and on consecutive drives Girly not going out
Speaker 1: of bounds and Gurley didn't do it on a catch
Speaker 1: inside the final twenty seconds. That probably took away two
Speaker 1: additional shots at the end zone for the Rams. Good point.
Speaker 1: We talked about Todd Gurley being the cerebral Yeah, Girly
Speaker 1: a month ago, but yeah, not yesterday, brain fart. I
Speaker 1: guess they called they were minus to in turnovers versus
Speaker 1: phil They lose consecutive regular season games for the first
Speaker 1: time under coach Sean McVeigh. The Eagles scored seventeen straight
Speaker 1: points in the third quarter. Remember it was thirteen thirteen
Speaker 1: at a half time, Yes, and then they survived the
Speaker 1: Rams late rally Jake Elliott and missed the field goal.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's the other thing they'll get swept
Speaker 1: under the carpet. What was Doug Peterson doing attempting a
Speaker 1: fifty two yard field goal with one oh eight left
Speaker 1: in that game? Well, you talk about what was he
Speaker 1: doing to talk about coaching decisions all year. I mean
Speaker 1: go back to last year, but every every every coaching
Speaker 1: decision last year seemed to work out for for the Eagles,
Speaker 1: right with the Doug Peterson, Yeah, I could not believe
Speaker 1: I take the penalty punted away, like, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: If it's fifty two? That's that's not a gimme by
Speaker 1: any stretch. Shows but illustrates even more how how I
Speaker 1: don't you know it is flawed or really inconsistent. Certainly
Speaker 1: the Rams couldn't. They couldn't take advantage of it overall.
Speaker 1: At the end of at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they did it right, It almost did, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: But Jared Goff got the Rams to the Philadelphia eighteen
Speaker 1: yard lines with four seconds to play. Again, it could
Speaker 1: have been more seconds, but nobody was getting out of
Speaker 1: bounds and he couldn't connect with Josh Reynolds on the
Speaker 1: final pass as time expired. Rams first lost the Colisseum
Speaker 1: in seven games this season. They do still control their
Speaker 1: own destiny for a first round playoff, by Chicago is
Speaker 1: a game behind them in that race. Rams are eleven
Speaker 1: and three, the Bears are ten and four. Bears winning
Speaker 1: the NFC North yesterday, Um, three straight pedestrian performances since
Speaker 1: that epic fifty one Monday Night went over Kansas City
Speaker 1: and the ensuing bye week. All that said, Rams on
Speaker 1: the road against Arizona Rams by ten thirteen and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say I was way low. As soon
Speaker 1: as that ten came out of my mouth, I'm like,
Speaker 1: there's no ways, by the way, Vinny was correct. Arizona
Speaker 1: points fewest in the league. There you go, dwo points
Speaker 1: in fourteen games. There you go, Rams thirteen and a half.
Speaker 1: Won't stop that. Yesterday will not stop the teaser train. No,
Speaker 1: today will not stop the Jeser train. Okay, Um, how
Speaker 1: many more we got here? Form? We've got three more
Speaker 1: on Sunday and then one on Monday. Three more on Sunday. Still, yes,
Speaker 1: all right, Bears Niners? Oh well, let's do the two
Speaker 1: day games. Anyway here Bears two day games, and there's
Speaker 1: one primetime Sunday, one primetime, So let's leave the prime
Speaker 1: time for next up. But let's do the day game
Speaker 1: Bears and Niners. Bears Niners, Bears win the NFC North.
Speaker 1: They clinch it with the win over the Packers, did
Speaker 1: you not believe me it was the Bears Niner? So
Speaker 1: I did that? Sounds like it didn't do I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I apologize. I didn't hear that, Matt, right, Matt, I
Speaker 1: mean sorry. I was like, I don't know what you
Speaker 1: spend every Monday morning with the guy you know a
Speaker 1: little bit of the little girl. I don't believe you, Vinny,
Speaker 1: I don't believe the Bears are playing onliners. I don't think.
Speaker 1: Not only do I not believe you, that's I don't
Speaker 1: even think they're playing each other of any how about that?
Speaker 1: About that? So I'm not even guess a lot because
Speaker 1: I don't think you're I think you're lying to me.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Bears of the Bears of the Niners.
Speaker 1: I believe that's what you said. Uh, Bears with their
Speaker 1: first playoff appearance that team when the NFC North as well,
Speaker 1: The Bears had dropped nine of ten against Green Bay.
Speaker 1: There's another sort of like you know again, all these
Speaker 1: short term streaks everybody likes to talk about. Um, but
Speaker 1: the Bears secured their first trip to the playoffs in
Speaker 1: eight years with their seventh win in eight games. Um, well,
Speaker 1: I just I just contradicted myself. Then it's a secured
Speaker 1: first playoff appearance since twenty team won the NFC North.
Speaker 1: Then it says first trip to the playoffs in eight years,
Speaker 1: where their seventh win in eight games? So which is it?
Speaker 1: I have conflicting details there, Sorry about that. For a
Speaker 1: team that, let's check do they win the NFC North
Speaker 1: in twenty let's check on it. For a team that
Speaker 1: came into the season with four straight last place finishes,
Speaker 1: it's quite a turnaround for them. Matt naggy h obviously
Speaker 1: the new coach. They trade for Khalil Mack and everything
Speaker 1: changed on that Bears did win. Thank you, Thank you, Matt.
Speaker 1: Fifteen of the past sixteen seasons. Now, listen to this
Speaker 1: stat for the NFL. Fifteen of the of the past
Speaker 1: six seasons with at least one NFL team finishing in
Speaker 1: first place in its division the season after finishing in
Speaker 1: the last or tied for last. Fifteen of sixteen seasons
Speaker 1: worst the first. Again, there's only four teams in these divisions,
Speaker 1: but fifteen of sixteen is pretty interesting. And then the
Speaker 1: Niners beat in the same situation, the Niners at home
Speaker 1: against a playoff bound team and the Seahawks the Niners
Speaker 1: beat the Seahawks out right yesterday as three and a
Speaker 1: half point dogs. Nick Mullins seventy five, one touchdown, no pick,
Speaker 1: sack three times. UM had just lost two weeks ago
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks by twenty seven points forty to sixteen
Speaker 1: Robbie Gould game win. He kicked thirty six yard or
Speaker 1: three or six left and o t went over time. Yesterday,
Speaker 1: UM three straight stops against Russell Wilson. Seahawks had a
Speaker 1: ten game winning streak against the Niners. That gets snapped.
Speaker 1: Winning streaks everywhere, head to head, snapped all over the place. Yesterday.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of stats, you know, the reverse
Speaker 1: smooth where if it was flashed, it happened right all
Speaker 1: weekend long. All these short term, like small sample size
Speaker 1: things that people talk about, especially over years, when it's
Speaker 1: not even the same things, it mean nothing. This was
Speaker 1: interesting yesterday. So the Seahawks the when when they opened
Speaker 1: last week they were five and a half, it got
Speaker 1: bent down to three and a half even at one point,
Speaker 1: and then it got that all the way back up. Well,
Speaker 1: so this is precisely how I'll guess this line right,
Speaker 1: because it's it's sort of similar in the fact again,
Speaker 1: Seattle at San Francisco playoff bound. We think with Seattle
Speaker 1: Chicago playoff bound. Now at San Francisco and Chicago still
Speaker 1: trying to get that by they still the shot at
Speaker 1: the bye as they look up at the rams. So
Speaker 1: I'll say it's the Bears minus four and a half.
Speaker 1: If if Seattle closed at three and a half, I'll
Speaker 1: say the Bears minus four and a half, three and
Speaker 1: a half right now, what it'll go up before it
Speaker 1: comes down. So probably get to your number, girl, Thank you.
Speaker 1: I still don't believe you that they're playing, that they
Speaker 1: are playing in each other. By the way, I didn't
Speaker 1: mean to sound bad. I sound that way. They didn't
Speaker 1: believe it. I didn't mean that at all, all right,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you the truth. The next game, it's
Speaker 1: the Steelers in New Orleans to play the Saints. Now,
Speaker 1: the Saints obviously played a night aim, so good game here.
Speaker 1: Saints will be in the number one position either way
Speaker 1: no matter what happens tonight. But if they win tonight,
Speaker 1: they clinch it, they lock it up. So if they
Speaker 1: clinch it, that means they got nothing to play for
Speaker 1: next week. Well, yeah, that's a that's a. That's a
Speaker 1: good point, I mean in terms of what it's Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you have you'll have a situation where,
Speaker 1: let's say they win tonight, you won't see Drew Brees
Speaker 1: at all next week. You don't think things like that, Right,
Speaker 1: you're gonna they're gonna wait, by the way, I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if I think
Speaker 1: they have to win next right, because there's two, Because
Speaker 1: there's two. This is I don't think I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: completely wrong and right, that's right. So you're preview, you're
Speaker 1: you're actually saying this is why we're not that's right.
Speaker 1: I'm somehow right that the fact that we're not doing
Speaker 1: guessing lines like there's no games that week. No, that's
Speaker 1: you're I'm completely wrong. But I think so they can't
Speaker 1: clinch it tonight. They can't clinch the number one position
Speaker 1: a tie. They no, no, no, no, no, they still
Speaker 1: only they're still even with a win tonight, they'd still
Speaker 1: only be a game ahead of the Rams with two
Speaker 1: games left, So it's not clinched. So this game will
Speaker 1: matter no matter what to the Saints, regardless of outcomes
Speaker 1: to night. But we haven't seen the Saints play. Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: has everything to play for. They only have a half
Speaker 1: game lead over the Ravens in the NFC North, and
Speaker 1: the Colts are knocking well, the Ravens are knocking in division,
Speaker 1: and then right, everybody else is knocking in the wild cards.
Speaker 1: So the Steelers are in this weird position of we're
Speaker 1: in with the division, but we could be out of everything.
Speaker 1: They could. They can miss the play they can miss
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Despite their seventeen ten win over the Patriots yesterday,
Speaker 1: Jalen Samuel's nineteen carries for a hundred forty two yards
Speaker 1: for the for the Steelers yesterday. James Conner missing his
Speaker 1: second straight game due to a sprain left ankle, Samuels
Speaker 1: forced into action. It got it done. And yeah again
Speaker 1: with all those short term streets, right, Tomlin versus Belichick,
Speaker 1: he was two and seven straight up, he was three
Speaker 1: and snakes against his bread the Patriots. In their seven
Speaker 1: wins against Tomlin, their average margin of victory was two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: Credit Steeler defense yesterday, right, they missed that they missed
Speaker 1: the field goal, so they the the They made their
Speaker 1: last field goal, but the second the last attempt was
Speaker 1: was off right. So then the Pats came all the
Speaker 1: way down and Steelers intercepted what at the goal, and
Speaker 1: so it was a big guy, was a big sequence.
Speaker 1: So credit the credit the Steelers yesterday. Really, you have
Speaker 1: to give him, give him, give him their due here.
Speaker 1: Despite never trailing in that game there, their win wasn't
Speaker 1: assured until Morgan Burnett knocked down Tom Brady's heave to
Speaker 1: the end zone uh intended for Edelman with twenty seconds
Speaker 1: to go. Boswell, Chris Boswell, such a tough year for him.
Speaker 1: He's missed now five extra points and seven field goals.
Speaker 1: He had toned, as you point out with your tone,
Speaker 1: for a thirty two yard miss and the third quarter
Speaker 1: by drilling a forty eight yard or with two thirty remaining,
Speaker 1: that provided the final margin. Gronk two catches twenty one
Speaker 1: yards um. Without seeing New Orleans tonight, I would say
Speaker 1: New Orleans about a six point favorite over the Steelers,
Speaker 1: barring the unforeseen six and a half, right now, Gil,
Speaker 1: But you're right there. Yeah, and again tonight's game will
Speaker 1: certainly impact us, but it is up Yeah, Okay, Primetime
Speaker 1: games coming Sunday night, Monday night next on the numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa Down Back to a numbers game with
Speaker 1: your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our Visa In
Speaker 1: studios in Las Vegas. Don't forget. Our Bowl Guide is out,
Speaker 1: gets stats, trends and analysis for every Bowl game in
Speaker 1: the second annual Visa Bowl Guide. It is fabulous. It
Speaker 1: is really spectacular Bowl Guide. It is a special digital
Speaker 1: magazine from Visa. UH. It's design to improve your handicapping
Speaker 1: for the entire college football bowl season. Only five bowl
Speaker 1: games were played on Saturday, so that means that there
Speaker 1: are thirty four more to go, plenty of time to
Speaker 1: utilize the Bull Guide here thirty four more to go
Speaker 1: before the National Championship. Um breaking down every single matchup.
Speaker 1: Three sets of power ratings to help you make your
Speaker 1: own picks. Matt humans Dave Toually offering their best bets
Speaker 1: either side or totals on the entire bowl lineup. It's UH.
Speaker 1: It was our first special betting guide last year. We
Speaker 1: got tremendous feedback. We're doing it again. It's out at
Speaker 1: it's price that just you can get it at Visa
Speaker 1: dot com slash subscribe as the second annual Visa Bull Guide.
Speaker 1: I asked humans. I said, hey, we all did our
Speaker 1: confidence picks. I couldn't find them when I look through
Speaker 1: the bull guide and he said, yeah, he goes, you're not.
Speaker 1: You're not the first person to say that they're actually
Speaker 1: not a dedicated severalists. There are confidence picks are in
Speaker 1: the bowl capsules for each individual games at the end. Yes,
Speaker 1: so our confidence one through ten, all of us put
Speaker 1: in our confidence among the way one of the most
Speaker 1: popular editions of points spread weekly. Yes, and it's really good.
Speaker 1: You know, Steve mckin and his team, they do a
Speaker 1: great job. Great job. All right, Vinnie is in for Chrissy,
Speaker 1: Vinnie mally Lowen for chrisy Andrews. We mentioned earlier Young
Speaker 1: the other things that could among the betting vehicles that
Speaker 1: are taken for granted today that Chris Andrews invented was
Speaker 1: the three team ten point teaser. Well, there's something else
Speaker 1: he invented that I want to touch on. What is
Speaker 1: that the reverse teaser And the card comes out every
Speaker 1: week reverse teaser cards. So just to give folks an idea,
Speaker 1: if you look back at last week's the Thursday night
Speaker 1: game was the Chiefs Chargers and the Charger of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs were three and a half point favorites off the board,
Speaker 1: and of course if you were to tease them, you know,
Speaker 1: let's say you took a seven point you put them
Speaker 1: in a seven point teaser, they would be plus three
Speaker 1: h three and a half. Well, on the reverse teaser
Speaker 1: card it goes the other way. They were minus ten
Speaker 1: and a half. So you make it that much more
Speaker 1: to make it. Yeah, Now the Chargers instead of being
Speaker 1: three and a half point underdogs, they were three and
Speaker 1: a half point favorites. So you have the obviously at
Speaker 1: both sides, and the odds are or increase, you know, people,
Speaker 1: it's very pop in fact, Chris Felika Bear, Yes that
Speaker 1: one last week he did and I believe he hit one.
Speaker 1: He did hit it. He did the shout here for
Speaker 1: with the he had a four team was a four teamer.
Speaker 1: So the three teamers are twenty five to one here
Speaker 1: at the south point, and the four teamers are seventy
Speaker 1: five to one to one. Uh yep, four for four,
Speaker 1: page seventy five for one. So Christie's home right now,
Speaker 1: Tipany's cat to the bear. Well, yeah, well done. Appreciate
Speaker 1: the appreciate the promo of the business but reverse teasers
Speaker 1: somewhere they might be called pleasers elsewhere. Yeah, some people
Speaker 1: might call him that, but that's a that's a Chris
Speaker 1: Andrews invention, and those are really good to one on
Speaker 1: three team or seventy one. And I should just point
Speaker 1: out that nine different teams would have hit on reverse
Speaker 1: teasers yesterday, so Dealers, it does happen. Dealers were minus
Speaker 1: five and a half yesterday. That's right about that. Steelers
Speaker 1: hit a bunch of team. Nine different teams hit on
Speaker 1: on the reverse teasers, and UM Titans minus minus four
Speaker 1: and a half. Yeah, good, excellent, so a lot of
Speaker 1: fun people. Eagles were plus three and a half last night.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a final question of because I
Speaker 1: know there's a there's a limit to the amount that
Speaker 1: that has taken. If someone walked up and said, hey, Vinny,
Speaker 1: could I do this for I don't know a little
Speaker 1: more than what you limit, would you guys allow that
Speaker 1: or no? Yeah? Well there's always listen, limits are are posted,
Speaker 1: right go, I mean, um, and on this one it's
Speaker 1: a two dollar minimum wager. On this card it's a
Speaker 1: fifty dollar maximum. But it doesn't hurt to ask, you know,
Speaker 1: Chris and Jimmy in particularly, come to the counter and
Speaker 1: make an inquiry. We'll see what we can do. They're
Speaker 1: they're pretty very fair. Here at the top point talking
Speaker 1: talking about himself, he's like, they're very fair. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean Sunday night, Michael gone and taught us all. He's
Speaker 1: our mentor. But he got on Sunday night, Sunday night
Speaker 1: Chiefs in Seattle to play the Seahawks. You were mentioned earlier. Yes,
Speaker 1: we have another matchup with the UH teams play well.
Speaker 1: Obviously the Steelers Saints be for that and now the
Speaker 1: chief Seahawks. And if the Sunday night game, and if
Speaker 1: the Chargers win on Saturday, who are the Chargers playing
Speaker 1: again home against the Ravens, right, and both both teams
Speaker 1: in in the hunt there so if the Chargers win
Speaker 1: that game, then it's sphincter tightening game for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: here at Seattle in what is going to be a
Speaker 1: nighttime who knows, maybe in clement weather game. Who knows
Speaker 1: it happens in Seattle. One UH one very strong home
Speaker 1: field advantage ghost to another. These are two. These are
Speaker 1: two of the biggest home field advantages in the NFL.
Speaker 1: This is why that Seahawks lost yesterday. Again for those
Speaker 1: of us who have Chargers future tickets, That's why the
Speaker 1: Seahawks loss was so sneaky good yesterday, because now the
Speaker 1: Seahawks can't just coast in correct to their playoffs, but
Speaker 1: they gotta play here casey losing to the Archers. As
Speaker 1: we mentioned on Thursday, Damien Williams filled up a statuet
Speaker 1: though in the backfield ten carries forty nine yards to touchdown,
Speaker 1: six catches for seventy four. The Chiefs one of these
Speaker 1: teams that was plagued by penalties though, ten for sixty six,
Speaker 1: including some phantom ones. I admit Seattle yesterday in a
Speaker 1: loss in defeat at San Francisco. Chris Carson twenty two
Speaker 1: carries her a hundred nineteen yards and a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: what a touchdown. That was fourth and goal and he
Speaker 1: just looked like he was stopped and he fought his
Speaker 1: way into the end zone. Doug Baldwin four catches seventy
Speaker 1: seven yards to touch But speaking of penalties, you know
Speaker 1: who doesn't get enough blame or or just perennially the
Speaker 1: Seahawks so many penalties yesterday fourteen Yeah, Pete Carroll doesn't
Speaker 1: get enough blame for that thirty seven minutes of possession
Speaker 1: for the Seahawks in overtime, though with an overtime game,
Speaker 1: so not as a starting with contrast as it would
Speaker 1: otherwise seem Seahawks had their four game winning streak snapped,
Speaker 1: missed the chance to clinch the playoff. Berth Wilson unable
Speaker 1: to drive or to generate any points fine three drives.
Speaker 1: We mentioned earlier, the tale of two different kickers with
Speaker 1: the Seaways. Just want to point this out last thing
Speaker 1: about this game. Michael Dixon, their punter, consecutive punts down
Speaker 1: at the San Francisco one and then the two in
Speaker 1: the first half. He's amazing. Do you ever want to
Speaker 1: see the greatest game ever of a punter Watch the
Speaker 1: University of Texas Bowl game last year. See what Michael
Speaker 1: Dixon did. And then the other kicker, Sebastil Janetkowski. It's
Speaker 1: just absolutely not having any interest in tackling Richie James Jr.
Speaker 1: On the nineties seven yard That's how you stick around,
Speaker 1: That's how you play while you're you can score. It's okay,
Speaker 1: seas like he tried. I'll say Casey is favored by
Speaker 1: It's either two and a half or three on the road.
Speaker 1: I'll say two and a half, two and a half,
Speaker 1: right on, Okay, two and a half. Good game, good
Speaker 1: Sunday night game. And Monday Night the Broncos and the
Speaker 1: Raiders in Oakland? God, is that a bad game? Is
Speaker 1: that Christmas Eve? That is Christmas Eve? Musburger in Oakland
Speaker 1: to call the game? That's right. I'm sorry, Brent Um.
Speaker 1: Christo's Raiders Christmas Eve, Denver at Oakland. Who's watching? Oh,
Speaker 1: there'll be plenty of people watching there. It's Christmas Eve,
Speaker 1: It's Monday night football. Doesn't everybody listen to one in
Speaker 1: their family on Christmas? Yeah, they'll be home with their
Speaker 1: family watching. And that what y'all do on Christmas Eve.
Speaker 1: Listens to me when I tell you, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: be at Christmas Eve mass and that'll be pretty good.
Speaker 1: Chance you'll be like Homer Simpson with your father. Jim
Speaker 1: will have an interest in this game, trust me. Denver
Speaker 1: thirty two rushing yards against the Browns. Browns were down
Speaker 1: five cornerbacks Chris Harris, Isaac Isaac Uh, you know, Brandon Langley,
Speaker 1: Jamar Taylor, Bradley Roby. They were all out in their
Speaker 1: game against the Browns Broncos by two and a half
Speaker 1: at Oakland Broncos two and a half. You're right, are
Speaker 1: you go? Buddy? Right on? Right on, we'll review them.
Speaker 1: We'll see where we isolated value. Next on a numbers
Speaker 1: game at Visa guessing lines. Now back to a numbers
Speaker 1: game with your host Gil Alexander, broadcasting live from our
Speaker 1: visa in studios in Las Vegas. What I missed? What
Speaker 1: I missed? Vinie? You get the band guitar? Vinny did it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: There you go. All the coffee everybody's drinking all these
Speaker 1: uh that's sweet nut teas. Get that caffeine working fellows, right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Vinnie. There you go, buddy. Alright, let's review
Speaker 1: of these. So the big one, the the one that
Speaker 1: just so all this first page is pretty much on
Speaker 1: the money here, no problem there. Let's go to the
Speaker 1: second page. Here, that's the one right there, Jaguars at Dolphins.
Speaker 1: You gotta be hitting me that the Dolphins are only
Speaker 1: four and a half point headed my way, Bill Alexander's
Speaker 1: number headed my way. It's gonna get the seven. I'm
Speaker 1: telling this that number is ridiculous. All right. So that
Speaker 1: one's that one's off Houston, Houston, Philadelphia's to pick them.
Speaker 1: So that was a little mildly curious to me after
Speaker 1: one game, rams thirteen and a half, not ten. I
Speaker 1: get it all the others, all the others pretty much
Speaker 1: in part. So it was it was the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: the Jaguars that was the one that really lepped off
Speaker 1: the screen. Vinnie and for Christy, Vinnie, no more guessing lines.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for h Yes, great to be
Speaker 1: with you on behalf of my my buddy, your buddy,
Speaker 1: Chris Andrews. Thank you, Sarah,