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<v Speaker 1>Hell I Suck at Dating with Deanunglert and Jared Haven

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<v Speaker 1>and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone? Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to an all new episode of Help I Suck at

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<v Speaker 1>Dating and I might, I might kind of just whisper

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<v Speaker 1>like this for the entire episode. Why are you whispering? Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording alive from a restaurant and see in Felipe, Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>are you surrounded by people? There's actually no one here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just still feel like the employees are still here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I feel a little guilty. Should we interview all

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<v Speaker 1>the employees about their dating life? See if they'll just

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<v Speaker 1>open onto us, sign a waiver, let them know, let

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<v Speaker 1>us know their deepest darkness secrets. Sorry, I'm gonna crack

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<v Speaker 1>a Pelle Greener right now. Nice Irish crickets love it

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<v Speaker 1>not to be here. Unfortunately, we should drink on this podcast, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we should just get drunk and then just like tell

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<v Speaker 1>our worst stories and then see if it gets picked

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<v Speaker 1>up by us Weekly and get some more listeners. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Mars Mark shaking his head because we ask you. Man, See,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a random done before. You Just not eat

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<v Speaker 1>for one hour a week can make it for a

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<v Speaker 1>really good podcast. It's just really one hour a week.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know getting Dan anywhere near a phone or

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<v Speaker 1>WiFi or a computer for one hour a week is

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<v Speaker 1>asking enough that I shouldn't add to that by saying,

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<v Speaker 1>please don't eat for the following sixty minutes. Yeah, what

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<v Speaker 1>are You're shoveling food in your mouth? Jared's cracking open

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<v Speaker 1>beverages like, come on, guys, professional broadcasting here. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the reason for me eating was I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to at least let people know that I'm patronizing the

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<v Speaker 1>restaurant here and I'm not just stealing some WiFi for

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<v Speaker 1>the next hour. Yeah, and mine was for creative content.

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<v Speaker 1>I figured a nice little crack people there like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I should crack open a beer with this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it's not appearance of sparkling water mark. You

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<v Speaker 1>except our reasoning. We do, but we also have to

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<v Speaker 1>read Dan's email from last night. Oh sure, this is

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<v Speaker 1>what we deal with trying to put this podcast together.

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<v Speaker 1>This came at ten o'clock last night. Hey guys, So

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow I'm driving this big stretch in Mexico. I run online.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty sketch when it comes to reception, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is similar drive today and had a reception most of

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<v Speaker 1>the day. I might stop an hour beforehand. Hopefully it

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<v Speaker 1>uplicks with Wi Fi. Just want to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>that the chance I gets stuck in a dead zone,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess we should just be thankful you here

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Yeah, well you didn't even finish it. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's unlikely but not impossible, right, that's just really

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<v Speaker 1>you in a nutshell, and listen, like like you said, here,

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<v Speaker 1>I am at a restaurant in sand Felipe, So I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to add some uh context to that message. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving from essentially from Salita up into Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's a thirty hour drive. Obviously you can't drive all

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<v Speaker 1>thirty hours in one stretch because that's insanity. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I drove ten hours, drove ten hours yesterday, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>driving ten hours today and today the first six hours

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<v Speaker 1>of the drive is through like desolate Mexican Highway and

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't had service all day until literally twenty minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 1>where I was like, I don't know how I did this.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up without an alarm and I timed it perfectly.

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<v Speaker 1>And here I am so you know, just went in

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<v Speaker 1>by the seat of his pants. It's pisting angler. It

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<v Speaker 1>help eyes. I got get dating. I gotta say too.

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<v Speaker 1>I crossed the border into Baja California at the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the drive, neely lost service, and so I thought

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<v Speaker 1>that I had an extra hour because that it pushed

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<v Speaker 1>up me back an hour and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got until one pm. Turns out no, I only

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<v Speaker 1>had until noon. So it's just a whole cavalcade of chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you park the van to sleep? Um, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of like beach access roads you can drive

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<v Speaker 1>down that are pretty safe. Last night, I parked in

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<v Speaker 1>a motel parking lot that has like big van parking. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you kind of just figured out. I parked

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<v Speaker 1>in RV park like two nights ago, paid twenty bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Is Kylen with you or you alone? No, I'm solo.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think she would like it. If she was

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<v Speaker 1>with me, she would definitely not be happy. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a solo thing, you know. Also, on the way

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<v Speaker 1>down from Vegas, it's how you elits. It's not a

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<v Speaker 1>thirty hours And I had my my guy friend drive

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<v Speaker 1>with me because it's a little more of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>trip than a girl tripp. So this is a cool

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<v Speaker 1>thing I have. My email was set up to receive

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<v Speaker 1>emails from the future and I just got one from

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and twenties only four. Oh yeah, yeah, I read

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<v Speaker 1>to you right now is Hey, guys, I was backpacking

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<v Speaker 1>from encoward Ista. We want to end up in a

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<v Speaker 1>Turkish prison. Sucks. Sorry. The good news is local laws

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to do one podcast a week, so I'll

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<v Speaker 1>try to be on. Unfortunately, the WiFi here is not

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<v Speaker 1>great in self block upside down h with a line

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<v Speaker 1>through it, so we'll see how it goes. The good

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<v Speaker 1>news is the delousing means that went up to shower

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<v Speaker 1>for another month. Turkish prisons for the wind see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Unlikely but not impossible xl x D. You know my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite part of the whole email is Mark, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>assuming that this podcast is still going to be around

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<v Speaker 1>by multiple People's Choice awards a better obvious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's you're right. If we're in three years from now,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still recording, and it's I'll gladly go to Turkish

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<v Speaker 1>prison for a week for that to happen. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>down in Siulita, right now, Dean, No, I'm in San Felipe.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you were down in a Ulita driving back right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You remember the podcast from two weeks ago when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, remember I was getting married in thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make this snappy. No, I know, but so you've

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<v Speaker 1>been down there the whole time? No, And I flew

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<v Speaker 1>up to Babysit Happy for a week, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>flew back like six days ago two parts of Arta,

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<v Speaker 1>which is essentially yeah, it's an hour south, and then

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<v Speaker 1>drove up to Salili Differ a couple of days, drove

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<v Speaker 1>up to Maslan for a day, buried my car across

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<v Speaker 1>to Cabo, and then have been driving up from Cabo

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<v Speaker 1>for the past two days. Well, dammit, Dina, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna try to start some rumors because Nick and Natalie,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Nick val and just going for Natalie apparently are

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<v Speaker 1>and saw Ulita. So I was gonna start some rumors

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe you were down in Paradise because that's where

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<v Speaker 1>they filmed the show. With Nick making a cameo, could

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<v Speaker 1>have had this whole thing going like, so were you

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<v Speaker 1>in Paradise? That's the question that I should we start

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<v Speaker 1>the Nick rumor? I'm gonna start the Nick rumor, the

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<v Speaker 1>Dean and the fun because you were down and sell

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<v Speaker 1>you Leita, Nick was down there. Uh, maybe you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are the new host after David's fade. Um. Yeah, David

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<v Speaker 1>speaks down there hosting Klin telling about that. No, it'sunny

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<v Speaker 1>because Nick texted me like an hour ago and he's like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>imn'n tell you, lad, are you still here? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like no, I literally just left, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>four or five days ago. Uh. I was like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotta be down there to host, So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>he's down there for. Then it's to host. I truly

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<v Speaker 1>have no idea, but I was going to start some

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<v Speaker 1>rumors on this podcast with like you going down there

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<v Speaker 1>and hosting one week, and then Nick and Natali are

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<v Speaker 1>going to be down there next week. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be like, oh, yeah, Ashley and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a trip next week, and then we're going to start

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<v Speaker 1>all this news worthy type rumor speculation. And now it's

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<v Speaker 1>all because you were just driving a van. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>to set the record straight, I did ask him he's

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<v Speaker 1>not down there for hosting. He's down there for his

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<v Speaker 1>cousin's wedding. Allegedly, but also that seems like a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>excuse to use when you're down there to host something

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want people to know you're down there

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<v Speaker 1>to host something, so you said you're at your cousin's wedding. Totally,

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of like when you ask a cop like

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<v Speaker 1>are you a cop? And if they say I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a cop, that's exactly what a cop would say, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean? Yeah, I wouldn't really equate to

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<v Speaker 1>that at all. But let's agree to disagree on this thing,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. Well, we do have a great podcast coming

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<v Speaker 1>up that we're gonna talk about dating at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>We have Adam Cohen alsat Uh. He is the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of the smore dating app up just like s'mores, which

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<v Speaker 1>I had smores over this past weekend of Memorial daying. God,

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<v Speaker 1>they're so freaking good. But anyway, he is the founder

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<v Speaker 1>of a small dating app which is apparently the first

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<v Speaker 1>anti superficial relationship app. They're kind of calling it that

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<v Speaker 1>love is blind for dating apps. So we're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him later about his dating app, but for right now,

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<v Speaker 1>we had something last week that we wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about but we didn't have time because we were just

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<v Speaker 1>jam packed with good stuff. And there was an article

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<v Speaker 1>on Cosmopolitan about dating hacks bringing a crystal with you

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<v Speaker 1>on a first date. Obviously, my dog Lois is very

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<v Speaker 1>excited about this topic. So on the Cosmopolitan article, it says,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a few things you probably take with you

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<v Speaker 1>on every date. Your phone, your wallet, your keys, your

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<v Speaker 1>face mask. Oh, your face mask, that's right. I was thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>like some sort of beauty mask for girls. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>who the hell would do that? Anyway? Uh, this article says,

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<v Speaker 1>let me suggest one more, bring a crystal. Crystals act

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<v Speaker 1>as conductors and amplifiers that transmit and transform your energy

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<v Speaker 1>and potentially the energy of people around you. They are

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<v Speaker 1>mood changers, energy lifters, and power boosters. Now who wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>want that type of cosmic help? Dean, have you ever

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<v Speaker 1>heard of this bringing crystals on a first date to

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<v Speaker 1>like get good energy out of it? I mean, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with the crystals and their ability to sense auras,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. You seem like a crystal type guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>could I could tell you. So you walking around with

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<v Speaker 1>some crystals for some good energy in the van? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually, I actually kind of really take offense to that,

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<v Speaker 1>so please don't ever say that again. Uh yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have experience means crystals to a degree. I would

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<v Speaker 1>never be an advocate for them personally, but if someone

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<v Speaker 1>brought one on a first date, I'd say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>why not, let's let's explore this. If you explore this crystal.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were on a date they brought crystal and

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<v Speaker 1>they were like, yeah, I bring this every first day

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<v Speaker 1>I go on, what would your first thought be. I

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<v Speaker 1>would think that she probably is going on many first

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<v Speaker 1>dates for that one reason, and maybe not bringing that

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<v Speaker 1>for the next one would save her a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of heartache. But yeah, I would say it's probably likely

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<v Speaker 1>to get a second date after that kind of uh stick.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know who doesn't love who doesn't love an underdog? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I would he doesn't love an under talking d That's

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<v Speaker 1>why we love Rocky. I don't think it's that weird, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, didn't people used to carry around rabbit's foot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of like, that's no more right. Peter got

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of that one. You can't carry around

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<v Speaker 1>a lucky rabbit's foot. I remember the rabbit's foot thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they are again the same thing at all.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we're talking about parallels. The parallels you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to draw today, are hold on? Are they're asking

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot more. If somebody brings a crystal to

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<v Speaker 1>a first date for good luck, a rabbits foot was

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing, because what you're failing to understand is

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<v Speaker 1>the crystal. It's not a good luck charm. The crystal, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a conductor of good energy. The crystal is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a resource for that person to channel energy through and

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<v Speaker 1>from and out of an into and help better understand

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<v Speaker 1>the chemistry between her and the person that she's on

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<v Speaker 1>a date with. The rabbits foot is just a lucky's

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<v Speaker 1>rabbit's foot. That's like me walking around with my my

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<v Speaker 1>freaking lucky rock that I have. I'm not a big,

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<v Speaker 1>a big like believer in that type of stuff. So

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<v Speaker 1>you have a lucky rock, do you think it brings

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<v Speaker 1>you luck? Or is it like just in your head

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<v Speaker 1>that you think you'll have bad luck if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have it. No. I actually used to be super super superstitious.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm only a little stitious, But I do bring

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<v Speaker 1>the rock with me in my van everywhere I go. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a rock that I collected from a mountain

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<v Speaker 1>peak that I climbed, which I probably shouldn't say because

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<v Speaker 1>technically that's illegal, and I don't want anyone to think

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<v Speaker 1>that I take rocks from everywhere that I go. It

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<v Speaker 1>was just the very first big mountain that I climbed.

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<v Speaker 1>It the time little pebble, And I hope we can

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<v Speaker 1>maybe cut this out because I feel like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want people to know me as the guy that collects

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<v Speaker 1>rocks from mountaintops again, because it's illegal and I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>condoning that activity. Uh, it was just a special moment

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<v Speaker 1>to me, and I took it. Okay, I took it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have and I've had it for I've had

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<v Speaker 1>it for like ten years, maybe like twelve years. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a part of the leave no trace mentality.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you go and you peck out all your trash.

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<v Speaker 1>You you don't let anyone know where you slept. You

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like leave that as it is, and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't take anything from the places that you visit as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine if you know thousands of people that

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<v Speaker 1>go to the Grand Canyon every single day, we're taking

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<v Speaker 1>rocks all the time. Eventually there'd be no more rocks

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<v Speaker 1>in the Grand Canyon. Yeah, that's a fair point. Take

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<v Speaker 1>only memories, leave only flip prints exactly, Take only pictures,

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<v Speaker 1>leave only for prints. That's the one I'm more familiar with.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's more or less the same, the same.

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<v Speaker 1>My sister's law isn't is in town right now, and

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday so she flew in and yesterday she broke a

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<v Speaker 1>mirror apparently, like a big gas mirror that goes into

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<v Speaker 1>a closet, and she opened a door and he was

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<v Speaker 1>leaning against it and the thing shattered. And she was

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<v Speaker 1>getting on a plane the next day, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>terrified because obviously if you break a mirror, you're supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to have seven years of bad luck. She made it

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<v Speaker 1>here safe and sound knockout would and it got me thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really believe in that stuff. Not to bring

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<v Speaker 1>it back to Tom Brady, but I'm gonna bring it

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<v Speaker 1>back to him. He made a video like seven years

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<v Speaker 1>ago of like walking under it because he's not superstitious

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<v Speaker 1>at all, and he walked under a ladder, he broke

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<v Speaker 1>a mirror, he did something else. It's supposed to bring

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<v Speaker 1>you like fifty years of bad luck, and the dude

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<v Speaker 1>went on to win through serve Bowls. So for me,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say this. Let's say this, Let's say maybe had

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<v Speaker 1>he not done those things, he would have won six

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<v Speaker 1>super Bowls because he did that, the bad luck he

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<v Speaker 1>only made it went three. I don't believe that. I

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a big like Crystal guy. I was never

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<v Speaker 1>the guy that like didn't change his socks. Not. I

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<v Speaker 1>was never that good of an athlete in high school.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not like I ever was like on a

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<v Speaker 1>hitting streak, but I never changed my socks regardless if

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<v Speaker 1>we were on some sort of winning streak. Um. But Riley,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you had some a list of certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that you could be creepy, could be cool. Um on

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<v Speaker 1>if you brought it on a first date or not?

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<v Speaker 1>I do I'm very curious for these ten items. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the rabbit's foot, but a few more items.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody brought lucky socks, underwear or a condom on

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<v Speaker 1>a date, would this be weird? On? Hold on, how

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<v Speaker 1>are we like just lumping in a condom with socks

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<v Speaker 1>and underwear? How did that? How did that get on

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<v Speaker 1>the lumped on top of each other these were submitted,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think somebody does have this on their mind. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got news for you. Somebody brought first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>is the condom used? No? Right, Okay, I just I'm preferacing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just giving context the story. Okay, Mark, Okay, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll allow it. It's weird regardless. Yeah, I think like

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<v Speaker 1>in movies at least they have like the lucky condom

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<v Speaker 1>in their wallet. Is that a thing that's not a

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<v Speaker 1>lucky condom? That's like in case they need to use

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<v Speaker 1>that condom that night, which is always a good thing

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<v Speaker 1>to act. I guess it is lucky if it ends

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<v Speaker 1>up being thrown away at the end of the night.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's saying, like, are you is it possible

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<v Speaker 1>you could jinx it by bringing it with you? Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it weird? Like obviously I would hope that she

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't know that you brought one to dinner because that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to kind of send things in the wrong direction.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's good to have just in case, or are

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<v Speaker 1>you jinxing it by bringing it? I have a story

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<v Speaker 1>actually about a scenario very similar to this, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 1>my wife is in the other room, so I am

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<v Speaker 1>not saying it, but it involved maybe something in my

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<v Speaker 1>wallet or something not in my wallet, because maybe I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking like Mark, and I didn't want to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get ahead of myself, count my chickens before they hatch,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, And and then of course I was

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<v Speaker 1>in some sort of predicament where you know, it was you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll leave it at that. Okay, fair, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>lucky underwear is legit because lucky underwear might be underwear

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<v Speaker 1>you particularly feel good and confident in, and that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to increase your odds of having a good date. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>is that like just underwear that doesn't have holes in

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<v Speaker 1>it in your case? Yes? Yeah, Like I make sure

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<v Speaker 1>I wear like my nice pair of boxers. I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>call them lucky, I'd call them the newest ones I have.

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<v Speaker 1>Um yeah, sorry, my headphones. I had like halfen through that,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I can, like, you know what, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>just go ahead and take a quick five minute intermission,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, and get my charget for the headphones. So

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<v Speaker 1>that way we're not doing this whole podcast about my headphones.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that okay? Yeah? Whatever helps man? All right, Jared,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Riley, you guys got this up here? Back all right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hell, he's back for the guests, Riley, do you

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<v Speaker 1>want to continue with the list? Yeah, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 1>So our our next one goes with the crystal. What

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody brought sage? Alright, Sage is the smelling one, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like light on fire too. That's a that's a

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<v Speaker 1>big check. Please, that's a little intense if she's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to clear because sage is meant to like give positivity,

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<v Speaker 1>right and clear the air of all animosity and negativity. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's like clearing the spirits or the negativity around

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<v Speaker 1>any list. And if we've got a clear spirits when

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<v Speaker 1>we first sit down on our first date, like, this

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<v Speaker 1>isn't gonna work out. By the way, Jared, I need

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<v Speaker 1>to call you out because I also I think crystals

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<v Speaker 1>are silly. I don't believe in sage and stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a hypocrite because when Green Bay is playing, I

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<v Speaker 1>am dressed head to toe in Green Bay garb because

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<v Speaker 1>it's good luck. I assume the same as for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's good luck. I'm just I'm a homer,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I love wearing jerseys. But would you would you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you? Feel like if you didn't wear a jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like bad energy, bad mojo something. No, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>not the type of guy I like when watching a game,

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<v Speaker 1>Like a lot of people are, like I like to

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<v Speaker 1>joke around with my friends, like if somebody's been standing

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<v Speaker 1>up the entire game and we're losing and then they

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and we start winning, them like, you better

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<v Speaker 1>not get the hell up. But I know it has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with the game. I have fun with

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<v Speaker 1>it now, Like anytime I wear a jersey or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, it's just because I like being like that,

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<v Speaker 1>that hometown fan that's like a douche bag. Alright, fair enough,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, what's next? Probably what about if somebody brought

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<v Speaker 1>like cliff notes or stats about you, like they had

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<v Speaker 1>things written down. What do you mean they have my

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<v Speaker 1>rookie card, just like information about you, like little notes

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<v Speaker 1>so that they remember, I mean, or where you went

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<v Speaker 1>to high school, talked about I guess, yeah, if we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about them, that'd be pretty cute. If they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, we've talked about your dog before and I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure I remember their name. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of adorable. Now, listen, if we've never

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<v Speaker 1>met before, like if we never really talked on that much,

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<v Speaker 1>and they brought like like, for example, if I was

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<v Speaker 1>on the show and then like they had all these

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<v Speaker 1>stats about me, like oh yeah, you were fourth and

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<v Speaker 1>and you got elimited week five and Bachelor in Paradise,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, Okay, this is a little weird. I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a little weird. That would be weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think I think it's okay to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's okay to take notes on these people, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's great if you let them know that

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<v Speaker 1>you've taken notes on them. I think it's better to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of use it for a little reminders for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>When they go to the bathroom, you can quick look

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<v Speaker 1>and see what their mom's name is, and he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>impressed when you get back. Kind of like cheating on

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<v Speaker 1>a high school test. Do you ever have like the

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<v Speaker 1>gator the gatorade bottle and like one side had the

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<v Speaker 1>label ripped off and you put like the cheat sheet

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<v Speaker 1>in the gatorade balls, So you're just staring at it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the teacher couldn't see because the label was on

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<v Speaker 1>the outside. That was always good. When you can do

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<v Speaker 1>that in the first date, you could or wear a

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<v Speaker 1>hat and wear it at the top. Yeah, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, your mom, um, Nancy, that's right, Nancy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom. I remember that. Um. So the next one

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<v Speaker 1>we have is what if somebody brings no purse, no bag,

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<v Speaker 1>no wallet, they're just bear, well, how are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to pay? What these like Apple pay or like some

0:19:03.359 --> 0:19:07.800
<v Speaker 1>like I like it. I like I like just being

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<v Speaker 1>clean when I'm out and about. I love it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I have a wallet anymore. When it's fantastic, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a wallet anymore. Nope, I got everything in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my phone. You're there, so that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much your wallet, I guess. So. But it's one thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one item, and that's the best. That is the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh yeah, I mean yeah, be minimalistic as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you can, like offer to pay, and that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>really care about. Sorry, really quick, I just have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this is that's like in forgetting Sara marshillaries like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't wear watching anymore. Mans go with the flow

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<v Speaker 1>and plus the times on my phone. Yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a wallet, it's on your phone case because not a wallet.

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<v Speaker 1>My wallet, that's right here. I don't use it anymore,

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the drawer. I switched to one of those

0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 1>ridge wallets, like the little metal ones. I like them

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more. Dude, I'm not joking. My back used

0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:57.280
<v Speaker 1>to hurt because I would have such a thick ass wall,

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<v Speaker 1>because I would keep every credit card, every business card,

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<v Speaker 1>every I since I truly became George Costanza. Alright, Dean's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, I'm so sorry. All right, Riley, want to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the next one. Yeah, let's do it. So

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<v Speaker 1>the next one. What if somebody has diet restrictions they

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<v Speaker 1>bring their own food. Well, I mean, you have diet restrictions,

0:20:17.440 --> 0:20:19.520
<v Speaker 1>you can't do much about that. I guess I'd rather

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<v Speaker 1>have that than somebody go to the restaurant and be like, Hi,

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<v Speaker 1>I know this is your menu, but I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>create my own thing and you're gonna do it because

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<v Speaker 1>I have diet restrictions. Do you are actually have diet

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<v Speaker 1>restrictions with each other? With each other? Hits you're live.

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I believe someone. I believe they're making up blended margarite. Nice, dude,

0:20:42.840 --> 0:20:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you should get me one of those. I love your show.

0:20:45.720 --> 0:20:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So much. I'd like to be clear they're not for me. Okay, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>no judgment if they were. Ashley is allergic to mango,

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<v Speaker 1>but apparently she doesn't know anymore as she just informed me.

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<v Speaker 1>So no diet restrictions on this end. Oh nice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>So Caitlin is like vegan like twenty days out of

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<v Speaker 1>the month, and so, uh, it's been It's not a challenge,

0:21:08.960 --> 0:21:10.520
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes you have to pick the restaurants that we

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<v Speaker 1>go to because she only has so many options to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from twenty eight days out of the month. Does

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<v Speaker 1>she cheat three days out of the month. Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>every once in a while, she just like have cheese

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<v Speaker 1>or something. Yeah, vegan at the time of the month

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<v Speaker 1>where you crave iron. Yeah, she is iron deficient actually, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she needs to figure out a lead and

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<v Speaker 1>just more iron. I don't know how she's been doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's been taking vitamins or something, but it's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>something that we're working on. I don't know. So she

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<v Speaker 1>can't eat dairy, I mean she can't. She just chooses

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<v Speaker 1>not to. I don't know how anybody could choose not

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<v Speaker 1>to eat dairy. That's a tough one. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really like dairy though. The only good dairy product I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like his ice cream cheese. No, cheese is

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<v Speaker 1>so overhyped, so outside your mind. Have you ever had

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<v Speaker 1>fresh parmesan like I've had every kind of cheese, crudy board,

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<v Speaker 1>like fresh parmesan, salami. I mean, there's a time and

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<v Speaker 1>place for cheese, but I think that cheese is just

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<v Speaker 1>the people think that you can put cheese and anything

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be good, and no it's not. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>time and place when cheese is good, charcooterie being one

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<v Speaker 1>of those times and places. But like an omelet, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>an omelet is already good about cheese. There's no need

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<v Speaker 1>to put cheese in it. And then what restaurants do

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<v Speaker 1>is they're just like loaded up with as much cheese

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<v Speaker 1>as possible and then just becomes cheese with other things

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<v Speaker 1>around it. And it's like, I don't want that. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to melted MONZRELI stick for breakfast. I just

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<v Speaker 1>think that they hold the cheese sometimes. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>most of the times cheese is in there, I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>there too. What do you guys think about cheese? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. Email us that. I second, what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on cheese? Reminding the email address I suckon

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<v Speaker 1>dating at iHeart media dot com. Tell us how annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>you are by my antics today, and also tell us

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<v Speaker 1>how much you hate cheese and what you would maybe

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<v Speaker 1>substitute cheese for if you could. Is that a select?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a photo on the wall behind you of two

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<v Speaker 1>men and I decide out of a female. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>wondering if that's a celebrity that's been to that restaurant

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<v Speaker 1>posing with the owners. You know, I have no idea,

0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but I bet you one of you guys will know

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<v Speaker 1>if it is a celebrity. It's too blurry. I can't tell.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you ask the waiter who it is? Uh? Can

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<v Speaker 1>we see if we can get you on the wall?

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<v Speaker 1>Just let them know who you are. Excuse me, I'm

0:23:20.359 --> 0:23:23.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm currently hosting my hit I Heart radio podcast. Help

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 1>I sucondating? Can I get on this wall? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>take a photo of the three of them? Yeah? And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I'll take two frozen margarita? Is do

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<v Speaker 1>You'm gonna ask? I can ask? Please? Please? Well? Yeah? Ask?

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<v Speaker 1>And we gotta take a quick break. Oh boy, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I'll be honest. There's a lot of pictures

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<v Speaker 1>on the wall here, so I think they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>famous people. Uh can Famosa. Oh oh, they're just friends

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<v Speaker 1>of the restaurant. I see, Okay, well that was see well,

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<v Speaker 1>so some of them to answer us, thank you so much.

0:24:04.200 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what that's so there. It is, they're just friends

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:06.960
<v Speaker 1>of the restaurant that looked really nice that they wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to take a picture up and put him on the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll still take those two. Margarita's right, we're gonna take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break. But right after that break, we have

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<v Speaker 1>the founder of s'more dating app, Adam Cohen Alsati. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to segu people. We're gonna take a quick break. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome back to help I suck at dating. I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>Ashley's glam Room. Dean is somewhere in Mexico at a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop or a restaurant, surrounded by people who going

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<v Speaker 1>to prom any who. We have a great guest lined up.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the founder of the smore dating app, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the world's first anti superficial relationship app. It is

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Cohen, Ala Salti, Adam, thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 1>joining us. How are you? I am doing underfully. I

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<v Speaker 1>am now in California. Took a week out of New

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<v Speaker 1>York City, the hustle and bustle of that city, to

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<v Speaker 1>get some sun because I'm pasty white from the last

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.680
<v Speaker 1>eighteen months. So uh so I'm feeling good. I think

0:25:13.680 --> 0:25:15.720
<v Speaker 1>we're all pasty white from the past eighteen months. So

0:25:15.760 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 1>you're from New York and in California right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>I am a Canadian boy, born, born and raised in

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<v Speaker 1>Montreal than myself in the U S when I was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two and have not gone back ever since. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do live in New York and visiting l A,

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<v Speaker 1>Orange County area. So what do you like better Canada

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<v Speaker 1>the States? Be honest, Wow, there's no I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win with this answer. So what I'm going to say

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<v Speaker 1>is Canada. Montreal is a beautiful city. Is will always

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<v Speaker 1>be my home. I love living in New York. My

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<v Speaker 1>husband lives in New York, so that's his his hometown,

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<v Speaker 1>but I feel most at home living in Los Angeles. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there we go. Interesting answer. I did not expect that

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<v Speaker 1>l A. I used to live in l A for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. Deans still up there some times. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>little too busy for me in New York. Holy crap,

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<v Speaker 1>like anxiety through the roof just walking down the street.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people. Um, but it is a fun

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<v Speaker 1>place to visit. I'm not gonna lie Montreal is beautiful.

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:10.720
<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was in Europe. I went to

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<v Speaker 1>Montreal a couple of times, and it's insane. How um,

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<v Speaker 1>how it feels like I'm in France. It really does.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's cultural without being overly aggressive, because sometimes in

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<v Speaker 1>Europe it could be a little bit more aggressive. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you have the niceness of Canadians, you have

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<v Speaker 1>really good food, and it's forty five minutes from the

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<v Speaker 1>Vermont border, so I don't think you can go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus the prices are super cheap. I discovered I discovered

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<v Speaker 1>poutine down there. We have poutine. Yes, we have poutine.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think all the poutine stores now are now

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<v Speaker 1>owned by Celindon, So if any Americans go to Canada,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll be getting some Selindon poutine. She bought most of

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>the big Canadian poutine companies. Well, my wife would love that.

0:26:51.920 --> 0:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>She loves Celandian as you can see Titanic behind me,

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<v Speaker 1>So I've heard Celin Dion one too many times in

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<v Speaker 1>this household. So, Adam, I do want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>your dating app s'more tell us all about it. Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you find it to be a superficial relationship app?

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<v Speaker 1>I've heard it compared to like Netflix's Love Is Blind.

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<v Speaker 1>What made you want to create this? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 1>And where do you see smore in the future. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great question. So I've been doing this for

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<v Speaker 1>twelve years, so smore is not my first rodeo. I

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<v Speaker 1>built my first dating website as a grad student at

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard in two thousand and eight, so I've been matching

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<v Speaker 1>people since the beginning, even before getting apps existed. I

0:27:32.480 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>just wind it so interesting to bring people together to

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<v Speaker 1>have these meaningful conversations. I love seeing people interact and

0:27:38.720 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>as that you know, actually moved online, it was interesting

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<v Speaker 1>to see what browns were doing in that space. And

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, fun fact for all of your listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>So photos that include cats and dogs get twice the

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<v Speaker 1>amount of interaction than photos without cats and dogs, specifically dogs.

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<v Speaker 1>Though it shows that you're a loving, warm person and

0:27:56.359 --> 0:27:58.600
<v Speaker 1>people want to chat with those people. I've got an

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<v Speaker 1>issue with that method. I don't like how it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so obvious what you're doing when you post a photo

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<v Speaker 1>with a dog or a cat or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean. Okay, But to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>it's also obvious when guys take their shirts off and like,

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<v Speaker 1>here is my six pack app. There's a app that

0:28:13.640 --> 0:28:17.000
<v Speaker 1>does that for you, and so out there you're perfectly

0:28:17.040 --> 0:28:19.879
<v Speaker 1>airbrush photos are only gonna get you so far. So

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<v Speaker 1>throwing a dog. I feel like throwing the dog is

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<v Speaker 1>the better of two eagles. Yes, yeah, throwing the dog.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like a different version of a thirst trap. Yes,

0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:31.880
<v Speaker 1>it's less thirsty, it's it's a wholesome thirst trap. Yeah. Yeah,

0:28:32.119 --> 0:28:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one.

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:35.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'll say I'm not a fan of any

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<v Speaker 1>of those things, like you mentioned the shirtless picks, the

0:28:37.320 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 1>air brushing or the dog picks, but I see they

0:28:40.160 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>do serve a purpose and they're there for a reason. Yes, um,

0:28:43.720 --> 0:28:45.680
<v Speaker 1>But back to smore okay, So and feel free to

0:28:45.720 --> 0:28:48.440
<v Speaker 1>jump with any question. So, prior to starting smore, I

0:28:48.520 --> 0:28:50.760
<v Speaker 1>was the managing director of Chappie, which is an app

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>that's owned by a Bumble. So I worked really closely

0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:55.880
<v Speaker 1>with Whitney Wolf and her team app Bumble to build

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.960
<v Speaker 1>this brand first product, which was Chappy. When I left

0:28:58.960 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the company. The truth, the real story is I found

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<v Speaker 1>myself on a beach in Mexico and I met an

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<v Speaker 1>African American woman who was millennial, who was curvy and beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>and she told me that I ruined her life. And

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<v Speaker 1>what she said was as a black woman, she felt

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<v Speaker 1>as though she had to put a version of herself

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:19.360
<v Speaker 1>on these apps that she knew was inauthentic. From day one,

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<v Speaker 1>she said to me, out of my know exactly how

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<v Speaker 1>to airbrush my photos. I know what to write in

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.760
<v Speaker 1>the first message. I know what to include in my

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<v Speaker 1>bio so that a man will respond like this, and

0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 1>he does. The problem is I'm leading with the five

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<v Speaker 1>sexiest percent of who I am, and by the time

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<v Speaker 1>he finds out who I really am, he's not interested anymore.

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>Why can't I just be me? And if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a step back and to all your listeners, when you

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<v Speaker 1>think about all the dating apps that you use, right, so,

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>some of them are great, but every single one wants

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:49.000
<v Speaker 1>you to make a decision first and foremost based on appearance.

0:29:49.600 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Then it leads to the emotional connection or sex and

0:29:52.120 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>then emotional connection. But if you truly are looking for

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>a relationship, shouldn't you have conversations? Shouldn't you give someone

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<v Speaker 1>a chance? Because never know truly who you'll end up with.

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<v Speaker 1>You might say I have a type, right, but then

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<v Speaker 1>you meet a person who is not ever in your

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<v Speaker 1>mindset of who you would be connecting with and who

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.840
<v Speaker 1>you'd be interested in. But the sparks fly. S'more allows

0:30:12.880 --> 0:30:16.240
<v Speaker 1>those sparks to actually happen because you're having more conversations

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>with more people. And what's nice about smore is as

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 1>you chat with the person, you get to see more

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 1>of them. So you literally, on s'more can hear a

0:30:24.480 --> 0:30:27.840
<v Speaker 1>person's voice before you see their photos. You can listen

0:30:27.880 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 1>to their favorite music before you see their photos. You

0:30:30.880 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>can fall in love with who they really are, and

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 1>hopefully the photo locks it in for you. If the

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 1>photo doesn't lock it in for you, then you've still

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 1>gotten closer. Tubing in a relationship by having a conversation

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>versus just swiping through photos like a softcore porn site. Yes, yeah, yeah,

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense. That's that's that's a great explanation. I

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>gotta say though, what happens in your face with the

0:30:52.960 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>harsh reality of connecting with someone, enjoying the conversation, loving

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 1>their voice, their music taste, all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you see the photo and you're like, wait, actually,

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe not for me. Yeah no, and look, and that's

0:31:03.800 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>totally fair. And you still have got to be sexually

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 1>attracted to the person, for sure. But what we found

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<v Speaker 1>on our rap is your at least giving someone a chance.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>You're getting yourself ready for love by having these conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>by forcing yourself to actually chat versus just swipe on

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 1>a torso or swipe on an airbrush headshot. Because the

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the the act of chatting is something that is part

0:31:24.640 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>of relationships. You cannot order the perfect person to your house, right,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Relationships aren't made to order and there, and relationships also

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:36.840
<v Speaker 1>aren't disposable. But we have been treating relationships like it

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<v Speaker 1>means nothing. A million fish in the sea, swipe all

0:31:39.400 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 1>day long, you don't like the person, move on to

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>the next sex x x x x, and we are

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 1>all still single, right, So if we want to be

0:31:47.120 --> 0:31:50.040
<v Speaker 1>in a relationship, we've got to try something new. This

0:31:50.120 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>is what the new thing is. This is it? It

0:31:52.440 --> 0:31:54.320
<v Speaker 1>definitely does get mindless after a while, and like the

0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 1>bumbles that tenders the hinges all that kind of stuff

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>is you just swipe and swipe and swipe. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>your your board, watching TV, you're on the toilet or something.

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Not speaking from experience obviously, but you just keep on

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 1>swiping mindlessly. So I guess this is great because it

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 1>engages you a little bit more intellectually and emotionally. Is

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 1>there like a limit or something too, how many conversations

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:12.760
<v Speaker 1>you can carry on at a time or is it

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just as many as you're comfortable doing or yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So s'more is not about blurring a photo or you know,

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, withholding someone's appearance. It's about getting you into

0:32:22.880 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>a conversation. So we think about what are the ways

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.560
<v Speaker 1>in which we can help facilitate a relationship. So the

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 1>first thing that we do on s'more, and I wish

0:32:31.600 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>all apps did this, is we verify a hundred percent

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of people because if you truly want a relationship, the

0:32:37.000 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 1>last thing you want to be doing is talking with

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:44.280
<v Speaker 1>a cat fisher. So on s'more, have to verify that

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>the photos on their profile are the same photos or

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.120
<v Speaker 1>the same person who is behind the iPhone that's one

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to Every profile gets a behavioral score. So if you're

0:32:54.600 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 1>acting like a D and you know what that means,

0:32:56.560 --> 0:32:59.120
<v Speaker 1>capital D, you're not going to do well on our app.

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>People conversation will say is this person being respectful to me? Yes?

0:33:03.600 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>Or no? And then thirdly, we want you to engage

0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.400
<v Speaker 1>before you judge. We want you to have more meat

0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>on the bones before you decide this person isn't for

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:14.520
<v Speaker 1>me or this person is for me. So there's a

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:17.640
<v Speaker 1>few things that we do in that vein. And then

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in addition to that, we've also launched a way to

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:24.400
<v Speaker 1>meet someone organically, which I truly think is the future

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 1>of dating. All these dating apps have profiles, right, you

0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:30.760
<v Speaker 1>go in there and you're storting, sorting, storting, and every

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>single thing is a different version of the same. Right,

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 1>all these profiles, they all look the same. We wanted

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 1>to create an experience where you could just discover or

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 1>stumble upon someone cool. So what we have on s'more

0:33:42.720 --> 0:33:47.040
<v Speaker 1>is fifty hours of really cool celebrity dating video content,

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>and you can meet people through watching this video content.

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:53.080
<v Speaker 1>As you comment on the video and as you like

0:33:53.160 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 1>these videos, you can see who else has commented and

0:33:56.040 --> 0:33:58.760
<v Speaker 1>liked the same content that you did, and then you

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>can start a private versation about that content. So we're

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:05.760
<v Speaker 1>giving you more avenues, more ways to start a conversation

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.439
<v Speaker 1>because truth of the matter is, you don't really know

0:34:08.719 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 1>who you're gonna end up with, because if you did,

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>you would probably be there, right. We want you to chat,

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 1>We want you to take the initiative and really break

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:19.080
<v Speaker 1>the ice, and so that's what we're facilitating at some more.

0:34:19.800 --> 0:34:22.200
<v Speaker 1>How many conversations do you have to have before you

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.960
<v Speaker 1>start seeing the other person's face, like, until it starts

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.279
<v Speaker 1>getting less and less a blurry. Yeah. So the way

0:34:28.280 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>that it works right now is it requires ten messages,

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.279
<v Speaker 1>so five each way. So every message you send will

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>unblur a ten percent everything any message you receive will

0:34:37.880 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>unblur ten percent. So only ten messages not that much.

0:34:41.840 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>May take three minutes, may take three days. Some people

0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>want to withhold a response because they want this experience

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.560
<v Speaker 1>to really continue, and some want to see a person

0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:54.959
<v Speaker 1>right away, So it totally depends what's cool about it.

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not just unblurring a photo when you can see

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>the person also locks all the visual content on their

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>profile photo. Galleries, videos about them, and all their social

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 1>media networks also unlocked for you. What if I just

0:35:10.880 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 1>messaged someone twenty times in a row, is that unlock

0:35:13.120 --> 0:35:15.600
<v Speaker 1>everything or has to be reciprocated? Exactly? Takes two to

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:18.360
<v Speaker 1>tango on s Moore. It will game the system. We

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:20.799
<v Speaker 1>thought about that because we knew Dean that you are

0:35:20.840 --> 0:35:23.439
<v Speaker 1>going to be doing that. So we like the Dean

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:27.359
<v Speaker 1>block the basic. Unless the person you're talking to also

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>wants to play that game, it won't work. Nice smart

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:32.239
<v Speaker 1>smart way to plan for the Dean's that's always a

0:35:32.239 --> 0:35:34.239
<v Speaker 1>smart thing to do. Always have to plan for those

0:35:34.360 --> 0:35:38.720
<v Speaker 1>d's capital capital DS, not Dean obviously, for the capital

0:35:38.960 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>is right, the capital ds and the little bees, the

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 1>single bees and all of them. Um Adam, So you

0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>worked on Chappy before. This is Smore tailored towards l

0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.840
<v Speaker 1>g B t Q community or is it for everyone? What?

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:52.560
<v Speaker 1>What is kind of like the landscape in that regard? Yeah?

0:35:52.600 --> 0:35:55.719
<v Speaker 1>So smore is for everyone? What has happened with Smore?

0:35:55.840 --> 0:35:57.759
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm I am from the l g B t

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Q community. I always found that a lot of these

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 1>dating apps are very focused on Caucasians. You know, the

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>straight guy, the straight girl um and the white straight

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>guy the straight girl, and it always felt like to me,

0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:12.319
<v Speaker 1>it always felt like the gay community was an afterthought,

0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>and also felt like a lot of the minority communities

0:36:15.160 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>we didn't really think about how dating felt to them.

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:20.200
<v Speaker 1>We never really thought about what it means to be

0:36:20.239 --> 0:36:22.440
<v Speaker 1>a black woman or an Asian man on a dating app,

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.839
<v Speaker 1>and so we wanted to create a community that really

0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 1>felt inclusive from the first day. So on s'more, over

0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:31.640
<v Speaker 1>twenty of our audience is l g B t Q community,

0:36:31.680 --> 0:36:35.240
<v Speaker 1>which means over twenty of our audience is non heterosexual,

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.759
<v Speaker 1>which is probably four times greater than a tenure. Yeah,

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:42.520
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting point you make too, because, as you said,

0:36:42.520 --> 0:36:44.360
<v Speaker 1>as a gay man, you felt like an afterthought, But

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>then to be a person of color in the gay person,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.359
<v Speaker 1>you're an afterthought of an afterthought. So I'm sure they

0:36:49.360 --> 0:36:50.879
<v Speaker 1>feel a lot more included in the in the sense

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>that they're on smore too, huh. And we also, you know,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>s'more is not just a cute name, right, We haven't

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:59.439
<v Speaker 1>discussed that, but if you're interested, all you listeners out there,

0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 1>it's s'more actually comes from the root of the root

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>of of s'more is the number one term that people

0:37:08.719 --> 0:37:12.000
<v Speaker 1>use when they give feedback on a dating app, any

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>dating app, they use the terms something more. They're looking

0:37:15.640 --> 0:37:18.640
<v Speaker 1>for something where they're looking for a deeper connection. So

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:23.439
<v Speaker 1>the heritage of s'more really comes from that, and so s'more. Also,

0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>if you look at our logo, includes the equality sign

0:37:26.280 --> 0:37:29.080
<v Speaker 1>as the top and the bottom of our smore and

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:32.880
<v Speaker 1>it's held together by a chat icon because without communication

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.760
<v Speaker 1>and the marshmallow is the glue that holds it all together.

0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:40.240
<v Speaker 1>So while it's cute, everything we do at the company,

0:37:40.280 --> 0:37:42.400
<v Speaker 1>whether it's on the brand side or the product side,

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:45.480
<v Speaker 1>is really very intentional, and I think that's why so

0:37:45.520 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 1>many people like it. It's very scary, by the way,

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:50.440
<v Speaker 1>it's very scary experience to be chatting with someone that

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>you can see. We appreciate that if you've ever seen

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:55.480
<v Speaker 1>the show Love is Blind, you know. But at the

0:37:55.520 --> 0:37:57.560
<v Speaker 1>same time, if we keep doing the same thing and

0:37:57.600 --> 0:38:01.320
<v Speaker 1>expecting different results, then also is scary, and that's also ridiculous.

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:03.920
<v Speaker 1>We need to put ourselves out there, we need to

0:38:03.960 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 1>try on new things. I love it's more as playing chess,

0:38:06.760 --> 0:38:08.440
<v Speaker 1>while all the rest of the dating apfter playing checkers.

0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.480
<v Speaker 1>It seems like one person did you guys? Did you

0:38:11.520 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 1>guys get the idea from the I mean, obviously it's

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.280
<v Speaker 1>not a new idea, right the love is blind mentality

0:38:16.000 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to speak before you see kind of thing. How did

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>you guys come up with that idea? Was it from

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 1>the show or you guys had it beforehand? Like what

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like the order of events in that case? Yeah,

0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>So we launched our product before the show aired. So

0:38:28.160 --> 0:38:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we launched our beta in December of and I think

0:38:31.480 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 1>the show aired in February of the follow of, so

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>just before, like two months before. And no, honestly, the

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:40.680
<v Speaker 1>concept came from this woman on the beach. She said,

0:38:40.719 --> 0:38:43.239
<v Speaker 1>why am I always judge based on my photo? Why

0:38:43.239 --> 0:38:46.319
<v Speaker 1>am I judging someone based on his head shot? And

0:38:46.400 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 1>when I took a step back and I looked at

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>all these apps, every single one was you know, some

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>of these apps the big ta in the room, um

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted you to make a decision. Literally, you've got a

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>person's name and a full head shot. You knew nothing

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.959
<v Speaker 1>about the person, and so, yeah, it's a hook up app.

0:39:02.000 --> 0:39:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I get it, But don't you want to know something

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.520
<v Speaker 1>about that person? Like? Literally, not one piece of information,

0:39:07.600 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>and so it just felt like we weren't putting in

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>an effort into getting into a relationship. But here's news

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.160
<v Speaker 1>to you, guys. If you think a relationship is not

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:20.359
<v Speaker 1>hard work, then you have another thing coming because it's

0:39:20.440 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>really really hard. Then they've obviously never been in a relationship. Yeah,

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:27.880
<v Speaker 1>it's not it's definitely not easy. Some are easier than others,

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but it takes a lot of work. And so we

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>want you to showcase really who you are because if

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>you want a relationship, you're going to have to be

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 1>real at some point. So when that point happens for

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:40.040
<v Speaker 1>you and you know that you want a relationship, we

0:39:40.160 --> 0:39:43.279
<v Speaker 1>allow you to showcase your crazy voice. We allow you

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:45.360
<v Speaker 1>to showcase that you're crazy love for I don't know,

0:39:45.400 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever kind of music that you like, and all your

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>weird corks, because that's what's going to be what someone

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.000
<v Speaker 1>falls in love with, not your facade of perfection. It's

0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>going to be with all of the weirdnesses that you are.

0:39:56.040 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 1>That's why you're gonna be cool, That's why you're gonna

0:39:57.960 --> 0:40:00.400
<v Speaker 1>be different, and that's why you're gonna find love. I

0:40:00.440 --> 0:40:02.360
<v Speaker 1>love it, and uh so I kind of got this

0:40:02.360 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 1>feeling is smore and correct me if I'm wrong, if

0:40:04.239 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm way off base here, but my interpretation of it

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>as it kind of bridges the gap between Remember like

0:40:09.040 --> 0:40:11.360
<v Speaker 1>match dot com was like everyone serious about being in

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a relationship now finding their soulmate, getting married tomorrow kind

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>of thing. And then income the dating apps that you know,

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>the big teas, the bees, all that kind of stuff,

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 1>and that kind of influenced hookup culture quite a bit.

0:40:22.000 --> 0:40:23.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think what' s'more does and get again En

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 1>correct me I'm wrong. It's kind of like that intermediary

0:40:25.239 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like, uh, you can kind of not use

0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it as either of those things, but it allows you

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 1>to be on an app on a phone, you know,

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:34.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of give you that instant gratification, but also uh,

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>you know in Bolden's and and and uh ingrains the

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.680
<v Speaker 1>idea of you know, meaning something that's more meaningful. I

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:45.759
<v Speaker 1>guess that's exactly it. And also, guys slowed down, why

0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>are we so the average person swipes on fifth, So

0:40:49.560 --> 0:40:52.360
<v Speaker 1>the average man on on one of the tease the

0:40:52.400 --> 0:40:55.839
<v Speaker 1>t dating apps has to swipe between one thousand and

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>one thousand, five hundred times to land a single date.

0:41:00.360 --> 0:41:02.839
<v Speaker 1>Think about that. That's a lot of swipes to land

0:41:02.920 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 1>one date, and the average date lasts for one point

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:08.480
<v Speaker 1>eight hours and does not work out, so you're spending

0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.000
<v Speaker 1>all this time. It's really softcore porn. It's literally staring

0:41:12.000 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 1>at hot people and doing nothing with that information, which

0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:17.879
<v Speaker 1>is fine, but then just call it an app that

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:19.919
<v Speaker 1>you know it's hot. It's a hot or not app, right,

0:41:20.000 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 1>it's not really for dating and relationships. If you really

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 1>want to be meeting a person, you've got to communicate,

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.480
<v Speaker 1>and so we've got to be more intentional. So slow

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:31.839
<v Speaker 1>it down, have a conversation, understand what you like about

0:41:31.840 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>the person. By the way, if you want something casual,

0:41:34.320 --> 0:41:36.560
<v Speaker 1>that's cool. As long as you both want the same

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>things and you're intentional about it, then it's fine. You know,

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>we're not saying that you have to get married, but

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that everyone's relationship will look different. But we

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 1>need to be more intentional about our conversations with people.

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 1>We are all people. We all deserve some kind of respect, right,

0:41:51.520 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 1>We're not all there's so many negative words I can

0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>but we're not just pieces of meat, right. We really

0:41:57.160 --> 0:41:59.840
<v Speaker 1>are human beings. Even though you're seeing a torso and

0:41:59.880 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 1>a shot or butt shot or whatever shot. We're real

0:42:02.160 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 1>people and we all want some sort of love, So

0:42:04.719 --> 0:42:06.640
<v Speaker 1>give us some bit of respect. And I think if

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:10.319
<v Speaker 1>everyone plays that same game, everybody wins. I've got one

0:42:10.320 --> 0:42:12.360
<v Speaker 1>more question for you. So you see a lot of

0:42:12.360 --> 0:42:14.439
<v Speaker 1>these dating apps come out with things like that. There's

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.319
<v Speaker 1>like bumble BFF and tender Friends and all that kind

0:42:16.360 --> 0:42:18.279
<v Speaker 1>of stuff. Is there, is there plans or is there

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 1>currently an integration with s'mores to Like, it's kind of

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 1>a weird concept to like make a friend before seeing them,

0:42:23.239 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 1>because it's like, you know, it's it's obviously just a

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>purely platonic thing. But is there any idea or concept

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>of that coming along? Yeah, okay, so I want to

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>answer that question. But before I answer that question, I

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you about two other things that

0:42:35.320 --> 0:42:38.480
<v Speaker 1>are not really exactly dating related. But you know, you

0:42:38.560 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>talk about us as this concept of being anti superficial, right,

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 1>and everyone's like, what the hell does that mean? Like what,

0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what that means. The concept is

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>really about knowing more about the person before you say no.

0:42:51.920 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 1>And if you look in social media right now, and

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>I know your listeners are very super tech savvy, so

0:42:57.200 --> 0:43:00.839
<v Speaker 1>everybody knows Clubhouse right, and on Clubhouse, we're getting to

0:43:00.880 --> 0:43:04.680
<v Speaker 1>know a person by their voice, by what they say

0:43:04.719 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>and what their opinions are, and then we have to

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<v Speaker 1>go their profile to get to know more about them,

0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>so we're not judging that person based on his Torso

0:43:13.680 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>that concept is already taking place. We all know the

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<v Speaker 1>new amazing cool app called Paparazzi, which is the anti Instagram,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.480
<v Speaker 1>which is an app where your friends create your feed.

0:43:24.840 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Your friends are showing you the authentic you, and you're

0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>not being able to curate the most perfect life. By

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>the way, that's all anti superficial. We're being real. S'more

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:36.879
<v Speaker 1>is doing the same thing in the dating space. We're

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:39.520
<v Speaker 1>forcing you to be real and we're saying that if

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>you're real, you'll win. And to answer your second question

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>which is your first question because you only answered asked

0:43:44.880 --> 0:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>one question friends. Yes, fifty of singles don't use dating apps.

0:43:49.880 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>That's a crazy staff. Fifty percent of singles do not

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>use a dating app. Why Because it's salacious, there's dick pics,

0:43:56.320 --> 0:44:00.480
<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, it's uncomfortable, there's high pressure. But as people

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>still want loves and those people use more of community

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>apps like next door, which is really an app to

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.560
<v Speaker 1>tell you who your neighbors are, you who were Where

0:44:09.600 --> 0:44:11.560
<v Speaker 1>can I go walk my dog? Where can I you know,

0:44:11.640 --> 0:44:15.759
<v Speaker 1>go to uh whatever, a makeup gathering or a bake

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.600
<v Speaker 1>sale or whatever it is. But all these single people

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>feel less pressure being on these common interests and using

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>air quotes guys these common interest apps because there's a

0:44:25.160 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>lot of pressure with being on a dating app, which

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<v Speaker 1>is why our app is not a dating app, is

0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a relationship app. So if you want to go and

0:44:31.680 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>make a friend once more, we have a friendship finder

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.040
<v Speaker 1>already in the app. We designed it with that already

0:44:37.080 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>included because we knew that no, not everyone wants this

0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:44.359
<v Speaker 1>transactional concept of a date. No, not everyone wants to

0:44:44.400 --> 0:44:47.239
<v Speaker 1>sort through resumes of people to look for a date.

0:44:47.320 --> 0:44:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Some people just want to stumble upon someone cool, watch

0:44:50.280 --> 0:44:52.719
<v Speaker 1>a video, meet someone cool, go into a chat room,

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 1>meet someone cool, listen to their voice, meet someone cool.

0:44:55.760 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So we've already created these more organic ways to meet people,

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:03.359
<v Speaker 1>which are think more friendship focused than dating focus. But hey,

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:05.840
<v Speaker 1>it couldn't couldn't up in a date, couldn't up as

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a friendship. Either way, you win. I'd also like to

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:12.000
<v Speaker 1>point out that Dean said earlier he didn't like guys

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:16.719
<v Speaker 1>who posted pictures with their dogs or posted shirtless pictures.

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:18.839
<v Speaker 1>So I went on Dean's Instagram and there's a nice

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:22.080
<v Speaker 1>picture of him and Pappy. Then he posted and then

0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 1>look at this un huh, nice little shirtless pick for him. Nobody.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 1>If you guys are listening right now, you can't notice,

0:45:28.840 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 1>but I've I've showed a nice picture of Dean with

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>a shirt off and a nice picture of him and Pappy. Okay, Dean,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:38.360
<v Speaker 1>are you single? I'm ready to mingle or what's your situation?

0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I am he's allowed to. That's that's him and his

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>girlfriend's dog. And let me just defend myself for a second. Okay,

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:48.560
<v Speaker 1>the photo with Pappy was announcing our adoption of him

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 1>because he's fantastic and we wanted to show the world

0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.320
<v Speaker 1>that we're you know, we're fans of fostering all that

0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:55.759
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And the shirtless picture wasn't at and

0:45:55.800 --> 0:45:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I was just trying to get some more engagement on it. Okay,

0:45:58.239 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 1>so it works, my friend, But thank you for holding

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 1>me accounable, though I appreciate it. The Dems are also

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>blowing up from all these single ladies who want a

0:46:08.040 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>piece of that action. Yes, all right, well, and I

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:13.759
<v Speaker 1>knew what I was doing when I was doing it,

0:46:14.000 --> 0:46:16.920
<v Speaker 1>like I said, But but I digress. You're right, You're right,

0:46:16.920 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 1>I take it all back. Oh, trust me, and come on,

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I have plenty of pictures of me and Lois. I'm

0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that guy as well. Um, well, I'm sorry, I Adam.

0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:25.480
<v Speaker 1>I just want to say thank you so much for

0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>joining us. We really appreciate it. Everybody listening. Uh s'more

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:31.600
<v Speaker 1>go download the app right now if you're single and

0:46:31.640 --> 0:46:34.359
<v Speaker 1>actually looking for a relationship. It sounds like an incredible app.

0:46:34.640 --> 0:46:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Or you can go to smore date dot com to

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:39.480
<v Speaker 1>view more information about it. I love it because I

0:46:39.520 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>always find that when I meet someone, I find I

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>end up finding them more attractive or actually less attractive

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>when I get to know their personality. So I love

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.240
<v Speaker 1>the idea of your app because it really just flips

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:53.799
<v Speaker 1>that on its head, where you find someone either more

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.160
<v Speaker 1>or less attractive based on their personality, and then you

0:46:56.200 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>find out what they look like. So um, congratulations on

0:46:59.080 --> 0:47:01.560
<v Speaker 1>your all your excess, Adam, and enjoy that sunshine in

0:47:01.560 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Orange County. Thank you I'll just say one more quick

0:47:04.680 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 1>thing to your fot, your fans and followers. We have

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:11.360
<v Speaker 1>this really cool celebrity dating show on Instagram called s'more

0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 1>a Live Happy Hour, and we just shot our one

0:47:14.080 --> 0:47:17.240
<v Speaker 1>hundredth episode in honor of Pride with T. S. Madison,

0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:20.040
<v Speaker 1>who is one of those famous transgender people I think

0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:24.239
<v Speaker 1>in this country. And we break into with these celebrities.

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.840
<v Speaker 1>They really tell us why their relationships have not worked,

0:47:28.040 --> 0:47:31.080
<v Speaker 1>what has worked for them, crazy dating stories. We play

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 1>hilarious dating games and you've never seen your favorite celebrities

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.640
<v Speaker 1>be this raw. So even if you're not wanting to

0:47:37.640 --> 0:47:40.160
<v Speaker 1>do join Some More or you're married or have you

0:47:40.280 --> 0:47:42.760
<v Speaker 1>go check out our I G t V. The content

0:47:42.920 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 1>is hilarious. It is so much fun, and you know,

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:48.719
<v Speaker 1>you get to be a little bit more intimate with

0:47:48.760 --> 0:47:50.839
<v Speaker 1>your favorite celebrities. Oh yeah, you have tons of them

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:55.319
<v Speaker 1>up there. Page. We had Page on the podcast She's

0:47:55.400 --> 0:47:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Dudes in the d m s right. Yes, yes, it's great.

0:47:58.600 --> 0:48:00.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, definitely everybody listening. Go check out some More

0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.240
<v Speaker 1>day on Instagram. You can watch all these dating shows.

0:48:03.239 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh you had Garrett on Garrett Powell from the Bachelor,

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, we had all of them be Plantic. You

0:48:11.680 --> 0:48:14.319
<v Speaker 1>had Ben Flannic, Holy crowd, that's a throwback name. You

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>had Wells. Wait a minute, do you know well, well, yeah,

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>but he's not single. He's dating. Oh yeah, he's with

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:25.800
<v Speaker 1>Sarah Hyland from Modern Family. No, it's not everyone's single. Okay.

0:48:25.880 --> 0:48:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait a minute, now he's definitely. He's

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.879
<v Speaker 1>definitely a relationship. I think he's even engaged. But it's

0:48:31.920 --> 0:48:34.040
<v Speaker 1>it's funny because we know, we think we know all

0:48:34.080 --> 0:48:36.200
<v Speaker 1>these celebrities. We have a ton of housewives, and we

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:39.279
<v Speaker 1>you know, we really go into it. How did you

0:48:39.280 --> 0:48:41.560
<v Speaker 1>know your last relationship didn't work? Why did you break

0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:43.759
<v Speaker 1>up with them? What is your craziest dating stories? Some

0:48:43.800 --> 0:48:46.239
<v Speaker 1>of these people's dating stories are the most insane things

0:48:46.280 --> 0:48:49.000
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard. And the idea behind the show is, look,

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 1>if we're single, sometimes we feel like we've been doing

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:54.760
<v Speaker 1>something wrong. Why is it me? How come im all alone?

0:48:54.800 --> 0:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>What do I feel this way? Got news for you everyone,

0:48:57.920 --> 0:49:00.880
<v Speaker 1>You're not alone. So many people have felt this way before,

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>and I think we could learn from these shared experiences.

0:49:03.600 --> 0:49:07.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's just my take. But the videos are hilarious.

0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.399
<v Speaker 1>We have the next twenty episodes already booked, so make

0:49:10.440 --> 0:49:13.520
<v Speaker 1>sure you're following some more and yeah it's really fun.

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's super cool. Man, you have something great guests,

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>So everybody listening, go check out some more days Instagram

0:49:18.480 --> 0:49:21.640
<v Speaker 1>and watch these. These are great. Thank you again and

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:34.399
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate it, but all right, take care. Hey,

0:49:34.440 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 1>welcome back to help by Sucker Dating. Should I say

0:49:36.920 --> 0:49:39.919
<v Speaker 1>that every time? I guess? Not? Right? Hey, welcome back.

0:49:40.080 --> 0:49:42.200
<v Speaker 1>You guys know where you're at. It's helped by Second

0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.799
<v Speaker 1>Dating Podcast. We have an email our favorite segment, and

0:49:45.840 --> 0:49:51.239
<v Speaker 1>we have our favorite person reading the email. Mark. Thanks Jay, Mark,

0:49:51.280 --> 0:49:53.799
<v Speaker 1>if you could be quiet, so Riley our favorite person

0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 1>can email, that would be great, Thank you very much.

0:49:58.320 --> 0:50:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Is Dean here? Great question, let's check in. He's coming back.

0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>All right, hold on stand by, stand by people. Technical

0:50:07.840 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 1>difficulties down in Baja California. Sorry here he is. Do

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:14.239
<v Speaker 1>on purpose? Actually did do on purpose, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make sure my connection was pure for this

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<v Speaker 1>monthent Uh segment. All right, here we go. This is

0:50:18.840 --> 0:50:21.399
<v Speaker 1>from an anonymous emailer who sent this to us. Six

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<v Speaker 1>months into my relationship, my boyfriend opened up the keeping

0:50:24.640 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>in contact hanging with X's kind of worms, He told me.

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<v Speaker 1>He was still in contact with most of his exes

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.760
<v Speaker 1>and remained good friends with them all. He occasionally messages

0:50:32.880 --> 0:50:35.120
<v Speaker 1>it with them and sometimes even grabs lunch or dinner

0:50:35.120 --> 0:50:37.439
<v Speaker 1>with some of them. His best friend is a girl

0:50:37.480 --> 0:50:39.200
<v Speaker 1>he used to date, so he's always hanging out with

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.520
<v Speaker 1>an AX as it is. At first, I was pretty

0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:44.000
<v Speaker 1>upset about the whole situation. I, on the other hand,

0:50:44.040 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I'm not close to any guys I've dated. But now,

0:50:46.360 --> 0:50:49.680
<v Speaker 1>fast forwarding two years into our relationship, the tables have turned.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally last week, I had an ex resurface who just

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<v Speaker 1>moved close to where we live and swiped up on

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<v Speaker 1>my Instagram story and started a friendly conversation. He asked

0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:00.680
<v Speaker 1>me out to dinner to catch up. I said yes

0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:03.920
<v Speaker 1>immediately the beginning of it, I communicated it to my

0:51:03.960 --> 0:51:07.880
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend and he got extremely upset. I don't like the

0:51:07.920 --> 0:51:12.319
<v Speaker 1>double standards I'm seeing. Help. How should they go about this? Well,

0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>if this guy is getting upset at you for hanging

0:51:16.000 --> 0:51:19.839
<v Speaker 1>out with an X, meanwhile he's been constantly hanging out

0:51:19.880 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>with multiple of his ex is, including a best friend

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:25.720
<v Speaker 1>that he sees all the time that he used to date,

0:51:26.360 --> 0:51:30.160
<v Speaker 1>then this guy, this guy is hiding something. That's what

0:51:30.239 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>I think. He's getting upset because he knows what he's

0:51:33.120 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 1>doing and he knows that it's not the right intention.

0:51:36.680 --> 0:51:41.359
<v Speaker 1>So now he's, you know, experiencing the other the shoe

0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:44.960
<v Speaker 1>on the other foot, and he's not liking it. Jared,

0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say, even on this podcast together for to

0:51:49.360 --> 0:51:53.520
<v Speaker 1>or three years now and there isn't it almost four? Yeah,

0:51:53.600 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>but Jared's only been doing it for three right Anyways,

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:00.279
<v Speaker 1>My point is, however amount of time we been doing

0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.240
<v Speaker 1>this podcast together, I think this might be the first

0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:05.719
<v Speaker 1>time I have actually agreed with your take on an

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.560
<v Speaker 1>email about to say I felt very profound while saying it.

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:11.839
<v Speaker 1>It was a good take. I think you're right. I

0:52:11.880 --> 0:52:15.560
<v Speaker 1>think that hypocrisy is real. I think the only reason

0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:17.399
<v Speaker 1>he would be getting upset about you doing the same

0:52:17.440 --> 0:52:19.880
<v Speaker 1>thing he's doing is because he's been getting away with

0:52:19.880 --> 0:52:22.759
<v Speaker 1>doing something shady and he knows that there is now

0:52:22.840 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>the possibility of you doing that same thing unbeknownst to him,

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 1>and so that's kind of why he's getting a little

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:31.240
<v Speaker 1>peeved off by it. I find the whole thing shady.

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest and anonymous. I'm so grateful for

0:52:34.480 --> 0:52:37.960
<v Speaker 1>you listening, and I appreciate you emailing us. It's our

0:52:38.000 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>favorite part of the podcast. Please keep emailing us. But

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I gotta say you said yes to hanging out with

0:52:44.040 --> 0:52:48.120
<v Speaker 1>an X immediately without even thinking about it. While for

0:52:48.160 --> 0:52:51.120
<v Speaker 1>the past six months you've been so upset about your

0:52:51.160 --> 0:52:53.640
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend meeting up with exes. You didn't you did that

0:52:53.680 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>didn't cross your mind at all before saying this. I

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:59.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's more like, oh, this is something we do

0:53:00.000 --> 0:53:02.200
<v Speaker 1>in my relationship. Yeah, I live to have dinner with you.

0:53:03.000 --> 0:53:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I guess if Anonymous is so upset about her boyfriend

0:53:06.360 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>doing it, why wouldn't she be like, oh, I wonder

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.280
<v Speaker 1>if this is like my point being, I don't believe you, Anonymous,

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:14.520
<v Speaker 1>when you said I didn't even think about it. I

0:53:14.560 --> 0:53:16.359
<v Speaker 1>think you thought about it, and I think you said

0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 1>if he can do it, I can do it. Maybe

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:22.520
<v Speaker 1>she's acting out of vengeance, you know, like she's like, oh, yeah, exactly,

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:24.520
<v Speaker 1>so he's doing it, I'm gonna do it. Maybe I

0:53:24.520 --> 0:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>guess I interpreted as like her ex moved to town,

0:53:27.960 --> 0:53:30.600
<v Speaker 1>hadn't been there ever before, and he's like, I don't

0:53:30.600 --> 0:53:32.080
<v Speaker 1>have any friends, Like, do you want to meet up

0:53:32.120 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 1>and hang out? Kind of thing, which kind of is

0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:36.640
<v Speaker 1>it's much more possible. But I do agree Jared, You're

0:53:36.760 --> 0:53:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you're on one it right now. Because if you're upset

0:53:39.360 --> 0:53:40.880
<v Speaker 1>about it and then you go turn around and do

0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the exact same thing, what are you saying. Are you

0:53:43.320 --> 0:53:46.960
<v Speaker 1>saying you don't respect the relationship enough to spare him

0:53:47.040 --> 0:53:49.440
<v Speaker 1>your boyfriend of the feelings that you feel when he

0:53:49.480 --> 0:53:51.360
<v Speaker 1>wants to go hang out with his exes. Sounds like

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.399
<v Speaker 1>the relationship is kind of on its way out. Mark,

0:53:53.440 --> 0:53:55.920
<v Speaker 1>what do you think? And all your in all your wisdom,

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:58.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to come up with a justification for this guy,

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:02.440
<v Speaker 1>blatant hippocry Seeing guys like this have a justification, I'm

0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:04.960
<v Speaker 1>wondering what it is. I wonder if it's like, no, no,

0:54:05.120 --> 0:54:07.520
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with X is something I do, It's not

0:54:07.600 --> 0:54:09.680
<v Speaker 1>something you do. And therefore, if you're doing it, you

0:54:09.760 --> 0:54:12.400
<v Speaker 1>must have alterior motives, where I know for sure that

0:54:12.520 --> 0:54:14.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't know. I'm trying to figure it

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<v Speaker 1>out because it's such a blatant flip flop on the

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<v Speaker 1>issue that he's got to kind of twist himself into

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:23.799
<v Speaker 1>a pretzel to justify it. I agree with Jared Jared's right,

0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.879
<v Speaker 1>this is a problem and it's not good, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>up to tell me. Shady Mark, you said most guys

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>come up with justifications. Are they justifications? Are they just excuses?

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Their excuses, their gas lighting to make you think you're

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>crazy for questioning them? Well, Jared, your friends the next,

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:41.600
<v Speaker 1>aren't you? So what if actually in order to turn

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<v Speaker 1>around and become friends with an X am my friends

0:54:44.280 --> 0:54:46.360
<v Speaker 1>with an next? I mean, aren't you? I thought you

0:54:46.360 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 1>said you were like really like one of your best

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>friends was a girl that you did in high school

0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:52.120
<v Speaker 1>or something like that. No, No, we never dated. She's

0:54:52.160 --> 0:54:55.480
<v Speaker 1>a girl, though, but we never had any relationship history.

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:58.359
<v Speaker 1>She's like very much like a sister to me, UM,

0:54:58.400 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And there was never that like set school chemistry between

0:55:01.080 --> 0:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the two of us, so it was never awkward. But

0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:05.799
<v Speaker 1>I can see how, like, if a best friend was

0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a girl in there was like this weird past, how

0:55:09.080 --> 0:55:12.080
<v Speaker 1>that would be far different than being friends with a

0:55:12.120 --> 0:55:16.520
<v Speaker 1>female that you've legitimately never had anything with. Um. I

0:55:16.920 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>remember I was before Ashley. I tried being friends with

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>an X and it was just never good. I mean

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:26.600
<v Speaker 1>it was great, She's an amazing human being, but like

0:55:27.760 --> 0:55:31.440
<v Speaker 1>it would always lead to physical intimacy because we're both single.

0:55:31.600 --> 0:55:34.560
<v Speaker 1>It was just like we all I think I knew

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<v Speaker 1>in the back of my head as soon as we

0:55:35.680 --> 0:55:38.280
<v Speaker 1>started dating someone else, like we couldn't be friends anymore,

0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, So what type of friendship is that? Right?

0:55:41.600 --> 0:55:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm yeah, I'm trying to put myself in

0:55:43.440 --> 0:55:45.440
<v Speaker 1>their shoes. I'm mostly cordial with my ex's. I don't

0:55:45.440 --> 0:55:46.480
<v Speaker 1>think i'd ever really go out of my way to

0:55:46.480 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 1>hang out with any of them though, Although there was

0:55:48.400 --> 0:55:51.279
<v Speaker 1>a time early on in minding Killen's relationship where I

0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:54.360
<v Speaker 1>an ex I came out with me and my friends

0:55:54.400 --> 0:55:56.520
<v Speaker 1>out in Denver and I texted Kilin right away. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, hey, Kaitlin, just so you know, like one

0:55:57.560 --> 0:55:59.040
<v Speaker 1>of my ex girlfriends is coming out tonight. She was

0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like totally cool with it. But I would never turn around,

0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Like if let's say Kalin had an X come to

0:56:04.880 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 1>town and they met up for dinner, I guess I'd

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:08.359
<v Speaker 1>be like kind of bummed, But I wouldn't be like,

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you can't do that, you know what I mean? Yeah,

0:56:10.719 --> 0:56:13.719
<v Speaker 1>you would be like Kalin, it's okay, it's fine, have fun,

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 1>but then you'd hang up on the phone and be like,

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 1>if this guy does anything, I will kill him. Oh yeah, exactly,

0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:23.759
<v Speaker 1>because it's not like you don't trust Kalin, so you

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:27.279
<v Speaker 1>trust Kalin, you just don't trust the guy. I mean,

0:56:27.320 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>I trust Kalen. I don't distrust the guy either. I

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.279
<v Speaker 1>guess I don't know. I guess My point is I

0:56:32.280 --> 0:56:34.759
<v Speaker 1>would be I would be bummed. I would be like, like,

0:56:34.800 --> 0:56:36.960
<v Speaker 1>I would see why she wanted to do it right,

0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:38.560
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you kind of like get to take

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:41.080
<v Speaker 1>a walk down memory lane, catch up with an old

0:56:41.400 --> 0:56:44.719
<v Speaker 1>friend or ex boyfriend, whatever it is, but they're still

0:56:44.760 --> 0:56:46.439
<v Speaker 1>just like I think it's just inherent that you're gonna

0:56:46.440 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 1>be like, oh, like that kind of stinks, but you know,

0:56:48.160 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I know nothing's bad. It's gonna happen. That's how I

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.920
<v Speaker 1>would look at it at least. So what does anonymous

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:54.600
<v Speaker 1>do here? Is a time for an ultimatum? Is it

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:56.239
<v Speaker 1>time for a look? You can hang out with your

0:56:56.239 --> 0:56:58.520
<v Speaker 1>axes or you can date me? You can't do both?

0:56:58.680 --> 0:57:00.560
<v Speaker 1>Or is it the ultimatum? If you get to hang

0:57:00.600 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>out with your exes, I could hang out with mine,

0:57:02.239 --> 0:57:04.720
<v Speaker 1>because that just seems like a road down a path

0:57:04.840 --> 0:57:07.800
<v Speaker 1>towards distrust that's not gonna end up. Well, Well, Jared's

0:57:07.800 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 1>been knocking the sun of the park, so I think

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.480
<v Speaker 1>he should give some advice here. I don't think she

0:57:11.480 --> 0:57:14.399
<v Speaker 1>should give an ultimatum of hey, if you hang out

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:15.879
<v Speaker 1>with your exes, I'm going to hang out with mine,

0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:18.280
<v Speaker 1>because I agree with you Mark, that's just a dumpster

0:57:18.360 --> 0:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>fire waiting to happen. I think that she needs to

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 1>sit down with him and discuss the fact that she

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel comfortable with him hanging out with exes, and

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 1>if he has a big issue with that, then maybe

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:30.720
<v Speaker 1>it is time to start moving away from the relationship.

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys are six months in. It's not

0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:36.320
<v Speaker 1>like the devoted This came up first after six months,

0:57:36.320 --> 0:57:38.080
<v Speaker 1>but now it's been two years. God, I should read

0:57:38.120 --> 0:57:41.040
<v Speaker 1>the whole email. Two years that makes a big difference. Yeah,

0:57:41.080 --> 0:57:44.000
<v Speaker 1>then I would. Yeah, if if he has a big

0:57:44.080 --> 0:57:46.360
<v Speaker 1>if he has a big issue with giving up hanging

0:57:46.360 --> 0:57:49.800
<v Speaker 1>out with his exes then or at least as frequently

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:52.200
<v Speaker 1>as he is now, then yeah, that might be a

0:57:52.800 --> 0:57:55.240
<v Speaker 1>red flag. Because the biggest red flag that I find

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:57.919
<v Speaker 1>in this email is that he got so upset when

0:57:58.000 --> 0:57:59.920
<v Speaker 1>she brought up the idea of her hanging out with

0:58:00.000 --> 0:58:03.400
<v Speaker 1>an X, which makes me think he obviously is doing

0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:05.840
<v Speaker 1>something shady with his exes, because if he wasn't, then

0:58:05.840 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 1>he'd be like, Okay, yeah, I go have fun, like

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm very trustworthy with my exes, but he obviously isn't.

0:58:11.840 --> 0:58:13.240
<v Speaker 1>He's like, wait a minute, what are you doing? No?

0:58:13.240 --> 0:58:14.600
<v Speaker 1>No, no no, no, no, I know how this goes down.

0:58:15.960 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 1>I mostly agree with what you're saying. I think that

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:20.640
<v Speaker 1>she should approach the situation a little differently, though. I

0:58:20.680 --> 0:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>think that she should bring up the fact that he

0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:26.480
<v Speaker 1>got so upset about her hanging out with an X

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and kind of push him on that a little bit

0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.320
<v Speaker 1>more and be like, why are you upset? You don

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:32.520
<v Speaker 1>just be like honest and confrontational about it, be like,

0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:34.240
<v Speaker 1>if you're doing this all the time, why is it

0:58:34.400 --> 0:58:36.360
<v Speaker 1>something that I'm not allowed to do. I think that

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:40.560
<v Speaker 1>will uncover a lot of uh, you know, possibilities, or

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:43.400
<v Speaker 1>like just kind of open open line of communication that

0:58:43.480 --> 0:58:46.480
<v Speaker 1>wasn't open before, Like why are you upset? What's going on?

0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Why don't you like that I'm doing this? If you're

0:58:47.920 --> 0:58:49.320
<v Speaker 1>doing it, why can't I do it? Kind of thing.

0:58:49.680 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's kind of the approach you should

0:58:51.280 --> 0:58:54.720
<v Speaker 1>take is take that and see where it goes. I

0:58:54.720 --> 0:58:57.720
<v Speaker 1>think Dean him ahead, and then that might lead them

0:58:57.720 --> 0:58:59.360
<v Speaker 1>to being like and then he you know, he gets

0:58:59.400 --> 0:59:01.600
<v Speaker 1>pushed hard and he like, oh I made out with

0:59:01.680 --> 0:59:05.280
<v Speaker 1>my ex last week. You know, like, yeah, then that's

0:59:05.280 --> 0:59:08.520
<v Speaker 1>the can of worms. That's like the next week if

0:59:08.560 --> 0:59:10.680
<v Speaker 1>that comes out and let us know how the situation

0:59:10.760 --> 0:59:19.360
<v Speaker 1>happened anyway, that'll do it, right, Dean. I don't know

0:59:19.400 --> 0:59:21.440
<v Speaker 1>what did you just have like a stoker? I think

0:59:21.480 --> 0:59:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I did. I'm losing it. I'm losing it. It's hot

0:59:24.480 --> 0:59:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in here, like you had moved on to your second

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 1>sentence before you. I know, I gotta slow down any

0:59:33.760 --> 0:59:35.720
<v Speaker 1>who you know, Jared, Jared, I think that's a good

0:59:35.720 --> 0:59:37.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a good stopping point, as you are alluding to.

0:59:37.720 --> 0:59:39.360
<v Speaker 1>That's that's definitely good place for to stop. I got

0:59:39.360 --> 0:59:42.040
<v Speaker 1>a good six hours to drive still, so I'm ready

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:46.000
<v Speaker 1>to hit the road. I appreciate you, guys. I appreciate

0:59:46.000 --> 0:59:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I appreci you guys working with me through this, uh

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this episode. I hope that this audio is usable. I

0:59:50.600 --> 0:59:55.240
<v Speaker 1>hope that the listeners of this aren't super piste off

0:59:55.240 --> 0:59:56.480
<v Speaker 1>at me just a little. You can be a little

0:59:56.480 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 1>bit piste off, just not super piste off. The listeners

0:59:59.600 --> 1:00:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in general. If I'm putting up with this show every

1:00:01.680 --> 1:00:04.040
<v Speaker 1>single week, we really appreciate your listeners. You guys are

1:00:04.040 --> 1:00:06.919
<v Speaker 1>good people. Yeah. I'll tell you what, if you didn't

1:00:07.000 --> 1:00:09.240
<v Speaker 1>enjoy this podcast, will refund all of the money that

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:12.640
<v Speaker 1>you spent to listen to this free will refund all

1:00:12.640 --> 1:00:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the money Dean, that's right. Well, yeah, the point is

1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a free podcast still listening to, so I'll gladly

1:00:19.760 --> 1:00:22.720
<v Speaker 1>refund all of the money after right. Thank you to

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<v Speaker 1>Adam and his sweet new app s Moore. Be sure

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<v Speaker 1>as always, thank you so much for being our our

1:00:30.320 --> 1:00:33.280
<v Speaker 1>omnipotent voice of reason. Jared, you crush it today. Man,

1:00:33.320 --> 1:00:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm super super blessed to get to do this podcast

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:38.800
<v Speaker 1>with you every single week, even from Mexico over the heck,

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<v Speaker 1>I am at times. Um, that's that's gonna do it.

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