1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: From the Rams thirty one shotguns, Staff Brady dropping back, 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: lobs will throw fork. Gronkowski left side, makes the catch 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,319 Speaker 1: over two defenders to the two first, then go to go. 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: I just told you they're gonna bleed him. He's gonna take. 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: He's gonna die, don't you. He's gonna set you up. 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 1: The ramps. They can't light it up. Pretty sees it 7 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: and it's a twenty nine yard strike to the big boy, 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: his favorite tight end, the old world tight end. What 9 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: a text. Alright, we have a big show coming up today, 10 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:36,960 Speaker 1: A lot to get to, Freddie Kitchens, Sean McDermott, Ian Rappaport. 11 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 1: At first, we have to share the biggest news in 12 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: the league right now. Rob Gronkowski is calling it a career. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: He did it on Instagram and read like this. It 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: all started at twenty years old on stage of the 15 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: NFL Draft, when my dream came true. And now here 16 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: I am about to turn thirty in a few months. 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: With the decision I feel is the biggest of my 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: life so far, I will be retired ring from the 19 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: game of football today. Nine seasons. Greg Rosenthal, Chris Westling, 20 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:13,199 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, record after records, Super Bowl titles an absolute 21 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Rob Gronkowski, and it ends before he 22 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: turns thirty. Greg, as a Patriots fan, how you feeling? 23 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: I am selfish, but I love seeing him go out 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 1: on top and I and I understand that there's different 25 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: ways to look at these kind of moments, but Gronk 26 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: is such a singular, dominant force, maybe the most dominant 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: tight end of all time, the most dominant tight end 28 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And as a fan, I love that 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: his last catching in his career won the Super Bowl. 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: It was such a Gronk physical catch. In the game 31 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: before that, it was a vintage Grounk performance bodying up 32 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: some little cornerbacks against the Chiefs to go win an 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: an FC championship game on the road. And he's a 34 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: guy I didn't want to see his decline. I didn't 35 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: want to see more back injuries and him become more 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: of a blocker. I think it's cool because he's just 37 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: in an upper tier uh great player to go out 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: in that style. It hurts the two thousand nineteen Patriots, 39 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: but that's not the point. Like this is how I 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: want to remember ron I remember writing a couple of 41 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: pieces like five years ago one that he was pieced 42 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,679 Speaker 1: together by the football gods. You needed like a cornerbacks 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: ball skills, a safety's athleticism, and a linebacker size and 44 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: physicality to stop to have any prayer of stopping him 45 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: one on one. He's just, I agree with Greg, the 46 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: most dominant tight end I've ever seen, the best tight 47 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: end I've ever seen all around as a blocker, I 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: think what I remember the most about him are his 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: hands in the way mid stride. A guy who was 50 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: six ft six, two seventy pounds could bend down, pluck 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: a ball off the turf, keep his balance and keep running. 52 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 1: We forget because he was slowed down last year, but 53 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: this guy, at the height of his powers was not 54 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: only the best red zone monster in the league, but 55 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: the best run after the catch monster in the league 56 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: before he lost that speed. I mean, you can look 57 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: back at the tight end position at Kellen Winslow senior 58 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: guys like Ozzy k Newsom, but forget all that because 59 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Gronk completely evolutionized and changed the position in a way 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: that no other player at the tight end spot ever 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: has or probably ever will again. And the one thing 62 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 1: I think about him too is the incredible, uh resilience 63 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: to come back from all the injuries. He had come 64 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: back as an improved version of himself. Absolutely, and like 65 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: I I'm with Greg that, like I could see why 66 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: Patriots fans would have wanted one more year, right and 67 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: I did. Of course I have mixed but this but 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: this poetic end versus having to go out after the 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: Patriots lost one of those Super Bowls that you go 70 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: out for him for. He was knocked down the stretch 71 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: of this season for not being the same guy and 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: win to help them win the Super Bowl the way 73 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: that he did. It's the perfect end to a career 74 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: that completely all or you know, to go out on 75 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: injured reserve or yes, before that the final two games 76 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: where he kind of became a part of that offense again, 77 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: he had disappeared for stretches. So I think it's it's 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: a decision that is both probably smart from a physical standpoint, 79 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: because he took a beating over the years, the arm, 80 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: the knee, the back and and all that. But the 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: writing was a little bit on the wall that he 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: was getting older and was advancing in an age faster 83 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: than maybe he would have liked. And I think ultimately 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: what you're saying, is absolutely right. He was. He made 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: a decision, like I'm a guy that I look at 86 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: my career in my life, it's not just gonna be football. 87 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: I think he definitely has an eye on something in 88 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry. I think this is I think one 89 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: part of his career ends. And I think he has 90 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 1: a whole team of people that are been building this 91 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: Gronk brand, and he decided he didn't need another year 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: of bumps and bruises and if he gets to go 93 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: out on top holding a Lombardi, even better. He he 94 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: was the secret sauce he you know, I hate what 95 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: I've heard some talk that he's not a lack Hall 96 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: of Famer, And we don't even need to get into 97 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: that now, because that's that's just But but even in 98 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: the arguments of like who's the greatest tight end? That 99 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: that I understand can totally be an argument. But but 100 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: to me, I will take those nine years of dominance. 101 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: I will take when he's at his best. There's no 102 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: doubt he was better than Tony Gunzals And I even 103 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: think that Shannon Sharp and and you can go back 104 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: to guys that I didn't watch, you know, at the 105 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: time like Kellen windsl or something because of the blocking, 106 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: because of the way he just changed offenses. We we 107 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: were talking earlier today West the Patriots never had an 108 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: outside receiver, but the second they drafted Gronk, they were 109 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: the best offense in the league. No, it's not just 110 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots had this stretch. No offense has ever had 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: a nine years stretch like the Patriots offense has had 112 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: since they drafted Gronk and Aaron Hernandez, which was a 113 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: big part of that at the time, in the two 114 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: tight ends, but Gronk was obviously the main part that 115 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: the enduring part, and to me, along with Brady of 116 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: core like, he is the reason those offenses were so great. 117 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,559 Speaker 1: They weren't as consistent before he arrives well, so we changed. 118 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: He changed the way that offenses operating, the way that 119 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: you would want to draft the tighten. But he also 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: changed defenses because teams had to figure out suddenly how 121 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: to stop this ultra sized, incredibly athletic giant. I remember 122 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: the other article I wrote back about five years ago 123 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:27,119 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady's numbers with Rob Rob Gronkowski on the field, 124 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: where basically Aaron Rodgers elite and his numbers without Rob 125 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: Groncoss Ron Cowsey on the field made him Andy Dalton. 126 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: That's a pretty drastic drop off just from one guy 127 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: not being and thinking. I mean, you think about it. 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: He is the quarterback, is turning about forty two in August, 129 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: and they're the reigning Super Bowl champions. So it is 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: what it is. They'll probably still be in the mix 131 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: next year. But you cannot throw it out. You have 132 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: to look at what's happening now that Brady, despite all 133 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: his greatness, definitely showed signs of decline last year. He's 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: another year older, and now Ronk's gone. If the FC 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: has not been this wide open ever, and I think 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: this is it is the end of an era, I 137 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: think for the Patriots, in the end of the era 138 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: for the a f C, because Brady and gron dominated 139 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: on a QB to tight end level like nothing we've 140 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: ever seen. Yeah, I mean, this era should have been 141 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,559 Speaker 1: ending many different times, but this sort of marks the 142 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: the official beginning of you know, the key people leaving, 143 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: and and Gronk is at a much lower level than Brady, 144 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: but he's the He's the key one after Brady uh 145 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: In Belichick and they had an issue with receiving talent 146 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: before this. You know they were going to talk later 147 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,239 Speaker 1: in the show about Jared Cook didn't get him signed. 148 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: They wanted Adam Humphreys, didn't get him signed. All they 149 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 1: have to catch a football right now is Julian Edelman 150 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: and Philip dor set in a whole lot of nothing. Uh, 151 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, Matt Lacossa at tight end, a whole lot 152 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 1: of nothing. So they're a team that can figure things 153 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: out moving forward in the off season. They can trade, 154 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: there will be the draft. It's the off season is 155 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: not over, but they have a a lack of weapons 156 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: right now. It's the timing of it was difficult. I 157 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: don't think the Patriots necessarily knew his decision until it happened. Uh. 158 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 1: They get some more cap room, but they might have 159 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: run things a little different. That's unfortunate for him. You know, 160 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: you're Gronk. You can do what you want to do. Gregy. 161 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful god Era. Thank you Gronk for 162 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: coming into all of our lives. Thank you for that 163 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 1: back surgery. Your last year at Arizona. No one wanted 164 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: to take him. I remember he hobbled up to the 165 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: combine podium back in two thousand ten, was it? And 166 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: the people were like, this guy is good, but he 167 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: might not last a year or two in the NFL. 168 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 1: That was kind of the talk. They took the chance, 169 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,719 Speaker 1: and man, he changed them all. Right, there you go. Well, 170 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 1: this is not the last time we're gonna talk about 171 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 1: rock this week, I'm sure. But that's it for right now. 172 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: We have an amazing show coming up. Like I said, 173 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: Freddie kitchen Z and Rappaport, Sean McDermott and other headlines 174 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: Around the League. Here we are at the built More 175 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona. Let's get to the rest of the show. 176 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. It's loose on one, titos 177 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,079 Speaker 1: and soda. Welcome to another edition of the Around the 178 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansas and I am 179 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: joined in a conference room filled with heroes, Mark Cecil, 180 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey da, 181 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: somebody got a little loose on something other than Tito's yesterday. 182 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: You know. Here we are at the Arizona built More 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: at the owners meetings, and yes I Greg and I 184 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: spent a nice day together by the pool. Nice little summer, 185 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: have nice little moment, you know, and uh drank some 186 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: of the margarita's that they offer. And then Steve Wish 187 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: and his lovely wife d invited us up to their 188 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: balcony for a little wine mixer party. And there's thing 189 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: about the ultra violet rays and drinking for like multiple 190 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: hours straight. The old zuwser had to take a break. 191 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I got a photo from a named source 192 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: midway through this chaunt that you were on, and you 193 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: looked like a hijack victim. The son's a powerful thing, 194 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 1: but if we want to, I mean, I have the 195 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: first time you've ever been on vacation drinking in the sun. 196 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,199 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting, like I really think, because I 197 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,240 Speaker 1: don't do when you're married, you had a honeymoon or whatever. 198 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: It was a long time ago, but I imagine laying 199 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: in the sun drinking. I got, you know, well lubricated 200 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: then as well. Um, so it was a nice learning 201 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: lesson I recovered, made it out for dinner. I like 202 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: the Ian's just now part of the show. The listener 203 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: must be like, wait a second, was that didn't even 204 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: get introduced? Alright, I will introduce him. He is um 205 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: the NFL media insider. Um He hosts a podcast called 206 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: rap Sheet Has Friends. Ian Rappaport, welcome to the name 207 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast sounds it's like, yeah, it's like rap 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: sheet has Friends that but not close enough where you 209 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: would put their name in the title. I mean I 210 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: could put their name in the Time'm not going to, 211 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: but I they're good friends and theoretically if I was 212 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: a better person. Are they annoyed by that sort of 213 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: low level you know, broadcasting? Who they are? I mean, 214 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: they only they only bring it up like every other show, 215 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 1: you know. I don't think they're that annoyed. Ian is 216 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: nice enough to join us. He just got off an 217 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: airplane and um from New York and also a bit 218 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,720 Speaker 1: of a flex slash humble brag posted on Instagram a 219 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: photo of his family celebrating a new five year packed 220 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: with NFL media. To remain the inside or at least employed, 221 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 1: did they make any promises that you'll stay in this 222 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: top post? Do you do you have assurances? Um? I'm 223 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 1: assured via my performance that it will continue. And now 224 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 1: what we're gonna do with this part of the show, 225 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: We're gonna compare salaries Mark cecil Or versus era Mark. 226 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 1: You go first, making a little bit more than like 227 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: already thousand dollars a year, have a side job as 228 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: a librarian. Any any truth to the rumor rap sheet? 229 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,439 Speaker 1: You know, Gara Folo breaks that Beckham news, you start 230 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: feeling the heat a little bit and then you put 231 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: the pen to paper. Get that contract aside. Interesting, I 232 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: would say the deal was already agreed in principle by 233 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: that point. That said, I was very happy for my 234 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: friend Mike to break that massive story. You know what 235 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,880 Speaker 1: he compared it to We got lunch and we bumped 236 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: into him. He compared should be great time. He compared 237 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: it to when like two girls, one of them announces 238 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: that she's engaged and the other one tries to be 239 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 1: happy for but you can easily see the anguish that 240 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 1: exists right behind. Would be flying if I said I 241 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: wasn't a little envious of the amount of retweets that 242 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: he got. Right, Um, you said the right things, But 243 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: he could tell what was really going. I mean, now, 244 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the big picture is it was on our new working 245 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: on any other network, and that night was fantastic me 246 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: while the same night I broke the D four to 247 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: the four nine trade, nobody at all. It was like 248 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: forty five minutes later. It was tough timing because otherwise 249 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: that would that would have been the big I was like, 250 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: I got buried. Should I put this out now? I 251 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: mean I guess I should. People back at great okayfore 252 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: to go away? See, I respect like your your sources 253 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 1: and your ability to create news enough. I almost thought 254 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: like you cooked that up after he broke it, and 255 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: he's like I need something, John Lynch, like I need something. 256 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: People put something together for me to like at least respond, 257 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: And then you got can you guys just do this 258 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: trade like you've been talking about this. I just could 259 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: do it tonight please. So I like this at the 260 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: beginning of what seems like a tradition. Last year in Orlando, 261 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: rap she joined us sat in on the news, and 262 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna do again today here in Arizona 263 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: at the owners meetings. I do want to interrupt for 264 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: a second. Sorry, now you're doing your host thing. Dan 265 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: asked me to come sit in on the news, and 266 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I had literally no idea what he was talking to. 267 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: Just say, you guys know, well now you know I'm 268 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: gonna forget next year this time we probably will. We're 269 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: gonna go through spin through the headlines with the Insider. Also, 270 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I mean again, you're gonna get upstaged here in because 271 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 1: Freddie Kitchens, the head coach of the Cleveland Browns joining 272 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: us today, as is Sean McDermott, head coach of the 273 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: Buffalo pill That's a show. I mean, that's a banger 274 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: of a show. Let's do it. I want to get 275 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: into the news. Let's do some news. Uh you alright, 276 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: let's start here actually before we get into the headlines 277 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: in obviously you're here owners meetings. What's kind of interesting 278 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: on the docket right now? What's what's coming up that's 279 00:14:55,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: got you tickled? If you'd ask me, nothing really nothing. 280 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: If you had asked me last year at this time, 281 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I would not have said the Giants may trade Odell 282 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: because remember that came out John Marrige just basically said 283 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: it at the beginning of Owners meaning perhaps it's something 284 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: like that. This will probably be about the rules and 285 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: replay and are they gonna make pass inference penalties reviewable? 286 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: Are they gonna make personal foul penalties football only penalties? Uh? 287 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: Ejection worthy? Like there's some rules stuff. Are they going 288 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: to make you know, some of the non call slash 289 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: non calls that we saw uh in the title game. 290 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: Make those reviewable. So there's some review things that we're 291 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: gonna hear. There's also and I was just talking remember 292 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: at the Competition committee about this, the possibility that instead 293 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: of an onside kick, they're gonna have a one fourth 294 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 1: and fifteen play from the thirty I think, where basically, 295 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: if if your doubt, let's say your doubt you can 296 00:15:58,440 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: only use in the fourth quarter, if you're down the 297 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, you can instead of kicking off electrical fourth 298 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: and fifteen from the third. If you converted, you get 299 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: the ball. If you don't, then the other team just 300 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: gets the ball, so exactly the same as an onside kick. 301 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Instead it's a play. And basically what John Elway decided 302 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: to do was get a play that had the same 303 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: hit and he was the one who recommended the same 304 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: percentage of converting as an old on site kicked it. 305 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: Why not just love it? What about the idea of 306 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: just going back to the old on side kick rules, 307 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: because obviously the tweak to the rule essentially destroyed the play. 308 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: What was wrong with the first on side kick concussions? 309 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: And there were there weren't that many being get pick 310 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: up Greg Siana doesn't get enough love. He proposed he 311 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: literally proposed this idea seven years ago. That's who came up. 312 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: But I'm just saying he came up with this exact 313 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: idea and now it got recycled back. But he's been 314 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: the overloading the line and all that. That's players safety, 315 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: so they can't go back to that and the lack 316 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: of running starts when you can't just you know, used 317 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: to be able to just drill a guy, Now you can't. Wait. 318 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: So is there a possibility that happens? Is that a 319 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: real act? This real idea came about because of Eric Lagrant, 320 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: remember the the Rutgers player that was concust sort of 321 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 1: thought of what could be something that would replace a 322 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: k paralyzed? And sorry, I didn't that's in I did 323 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: not know that. That's interesting that maybe Freddie Mitchell will 324 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: come out every time. I would be amazing if, like, yeah, 325 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: that keeps his career alive. He just comes into one 326 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 1: play every four games. All right, So there you go. 327 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: That's what's coming up. Um it will keep an eye 328 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: on that because that is very interesting. Let's go through 329 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: the headlines. Uh, let's start here justin Houston has a home. 330 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,239 Speaker 1: Everybody was wondering, uh Ian, when the Colts were going 331 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: to strike, they had all this cap money and Chris Ballard, Um, who, 332 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: by the way, Ian, you're on your part of Peloton 333 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: Nation like me, I'm on the Pelton here in the gym, 334 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: humble brig And who's next to me on the StairMaster? Ballard? 335 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you rushing it? Rushing it? Yeah, like 336 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I could not have more respect 337 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:14,639 Speaker 1: for what he was able to do on that machine. Um. 338 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: But but anyway, a good job. Just so you know, 339 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if I wouldn't know what was good 340 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: or bad on a StairMaster's guess you got to you 341 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: gotta grind on that thing. And he was grinding hard. 342 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: Where you gonna say. He's a guest on the Rap 343 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Shetion Friends podcast on Monday, f y I you were 344 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: going to have Dan what happened with you? Don't think 345 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: that was actually ever gonna happen. I mean I probably 346 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 1: told him it was gonna happen. Now that's cool. We 347 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: have we have Freddie Kitchens and Sean McDermott and you, 348 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 1: so really, why would you need to go to your 349 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: podcast for that you answer this fairy question right here, 350 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: this question right here you will get the answer to 351 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: on rap sheet in front. It was interesting about the 352 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: Houston thing. So he was trying to get ten million 353 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:06,439 Speaker 1: a year and could not do it, you know, he 354 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: and he was talking to Raiders, Ravens, I believe, a 355 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 1: couple of other teams, and all of a sudden, the 356 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: Colts open up and it's twelve and you know, and 357 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's it's real money. It's actually it's 358 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: actually eleven for twenty four. But it doesn't matter, same 359 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,879 Speaker 1: same thing, real money. And all of a sudden, the 360 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: Colts just kind of jumped in, and everyone was like, 361 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: what are they gonna do? They have so much money. 362 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: You know, Battler doesn't love free agency. I don't. It 363 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: just doesn't like the concept of it. I'd like to 364 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: spend money on, you know, bloated salaries for players who 365 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times are not the best players. But 366 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: in this case, you know, it kind of dove in 367 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: and I think that will help a lot. Yes, I 368 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: feel like this is a move that you like for 369 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: your cults. I do. I think that makes sense where 370 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: the Colts the Devin funcious thing too. They have the 371 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: money now, so they're spending it short term and this 372 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: will not affect locking up all their guys that they're 373 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: draft like. They had a great draft last year, and 374 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: I'm sure they think so are ahead. Well, we're gonna 375 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: have to lock these guys up. We're gonna have to 376 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: lock up the rest of our young players. So it 377 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: gives them the freedom to do things. And you can 378 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: be free agency a verse when you're drafting the way 379 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: that Chris Ballard has drafted, in the way he's built 380 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 1: right and ultimately that I thought he was the best 381 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: player left in free agency by the point he signed 382 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: by far. And they're like the team at you know, 383 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,880 Speaker 1: not to be too dorky, the auction, you know, fantasy 384 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 1: league draft where they have all the money at the 385 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: end and now there they wait and they see Houston 386 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: is out there. Didn't expect they would get someone like him, 387 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: but it fits in perfectly. They got money to spend. 388 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: I love that, and they need pass thresh and I mean, 389 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: obviously Ballard was integraling drafting him and scout him. The 390 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: thing that's weird to me is like they have a 391 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: they ended up last year where they ended up. But 392 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: they have a good, fun, young team and whoever they 393 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: signed in free agency, whichever, like mid level free agent, 394 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 1: would have to beat out whoever is currently on the roster, 395 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: and like trying to figure out who would be better 396 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: than they currently. I mean they were in the mix 397 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 1: for some of the safeties, like for Landing and for 398 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: I don't know about Earl, but definitely for land and 399 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: in a couple of other safeties, but like who would 400 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: actually be better and more productive for them long term 401 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: on the roster, Like I didn't see a lot of guys. 402 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: You know, here's another move. I think we all like 403 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: the Houston Cults move. The Saints add another weapon on offense, 404 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: Jared Cooker. It appears to be heading that way. It 405 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: doesn't seem official, and is this definitely happening, will start here, 406 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: It is happening. It had the actual contract they don't 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: believe has been agreed to language wise, but they had 408 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,439 Speaker 1: an agreement in principle. Like, I don't know when I 409 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: was at the next game, So when when night was that? 410 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: We're not sure you didn't, well, you've been scouting my 411 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: It was on Instagram, my Instagram. No, I was told 412 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: about the Instagram photo. I didn't see it myself. Actually, 413 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: that doesn't sound it's been in You better if I 414 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: don't follow you though, So it's no so that I mean, 415 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,719 Speaker 1: that's that's going to happen. But this is that kind 416 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: of interesting because every year we all talk about the 417 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: Saints have no money, they have cap issues, and you know, 418 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: they breezes cap number in like is gonna be like 419 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: fifty million, and they kind of find the space for 420 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,640 Speaker 1: stuff they really need and you know, I don't it's 421 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: gonna be eight million fully guaranteed in year one. It's 422 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: really just a one year. It's a lot of money. 423 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: Patriots came in at the end and had a big 424 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: time push, big time like presentation to cook Um. But 425 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: in the end, I mean, I think this is something 426 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: that Sean Payton needed and was willing to pay for. 427 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 1: Moving forward, the Los Angeles Rams are making moves in 428 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: their backfield Todd Gurley and you know, it's a little 429 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: weird what's going on with him right now. Maybe we 430 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: can talk about that a little bit in but we'll 431 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: talk about their depth chart. Malcolm Brown, he stays in 432 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: l a uh he according to Ian Rappaport, and then 433 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: announced by the team. The Rams are matched the Detroit 434 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: Lin's offer sheet for the restricted free agent running back, 435 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 1: so it's a two year deal with three point three 436 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: million bass salary. So he sticks around and he ended 437 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: last season on injured reserve, which paved the way for c. J. Anderson, 438 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: who is not happy. And this is what c J. 439 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 1: Anderson had to say on Twitter. He called the disrespect real. Mark, 440 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 1: I've heard you say that disrespect is real. Just want 441 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 1: a sixteen is all I ask. He wants sixteen games? Well, 442 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: I think. I mean the Malcolm Round thing is interesting, 443 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: and I love a good restricted free agent deal because 444 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,679 Speaker 1: they never happened. It's kind of fun. But this really, 445 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: to me, this story really is about c J. Anderson 446 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 1: like basically saying goodbye to the Rams on Twitter. He 447 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: said that's not what he meant, and he has since 448 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: told me that he that is not what he meant. 449 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: Um However, clearly he wanted to be on the Rams. 450 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: They talked public about how they wanted him back, and 451 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 1: then they paid a lot for a guy who was 452 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: a backup who broke his class. They didn't want them, 453 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: They didn't want c. J. Anderson. It's not a lot 454 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: of gratitude for what he did for maybe they thought 455 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: lightning wouldn't strike twice. But it's interesting because ultimately they're 456 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: not in the super Bowl for CJ. Anderson, That's what 457 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: I would agree with that. You also can point out 458 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: that he didn't do much in the final two playoff games, 459 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 1: so he didn't end the season and hot as he 460 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,440 Speaker 1: was when he first took over the job. But you 461 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 1: would think he would there would have been some type 462 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: of interest from the Rams, but apparently they didn't think 463 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: much the Bigger Rams story. To me, I am stunned 464 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: by the fact that, and I get it less sneyed, 465 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: like he's always doing the football thing, watching films, sunny place, 466 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: He's never heard of the television show The Office. Am 467 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: I honestly to believe that that is not true? Wife 468 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: Kara Henderson, that he's never been this has been on 469 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,359 Speaker 1: Mark's radar, He's not. You seem like you're questioning the reporting. Franklin, No, no, 470 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: I I believe her. Do you know what? We're on 471 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: the same page because we get it, and we when 472 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: we interview these coaches, they always seem to be a 473 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: little disconnected with pop culture and things of that nature. 474 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: But not knowing what the Office is is a bridge 475 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: too far. It's almost like it's either a put on 476 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: just to show how hard you're grinding or which I respect, 477 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: by the way, which is fine, or it's that's a 478 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: flex that I can get behind, right, or it's truth 479 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: of almost a cry for help, because the Office is 480 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: part of the landscape, and by this time it's it's shocking. 481 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840 Speaker 1: I agree with your analysis. There's nothing wrong with not 482 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: being plugged into pop culture, but it's it's a little 483 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,679 Speaker 1: too far to say that you don't know what the 484 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: Office is. I have never watched The Office except more 485 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: than like a half an episode, but at least I 486 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: know what it is exactly. I don't need you to 487 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: be a completist, but the idea that you've never heard 488 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: of the show? What do you what's going on with 489 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: Todd Gurley? Are you? What are we hearing here? Is this? 490 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,119 Speaker 1: Have we seen the best on Todd Gurley? Is it 491 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: now the long I don't think we've seen the I 492 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: hope not. It would be if that was the case, 493 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 1: that would be really depressing, especially since he signed a 494 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: nice big deal and looks like his career is going 495 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: in the right direction. But I do think that it's 496 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: going to be different from now. I'm like, I don't 497 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be and not that he was ever 498 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: like a thirty carry per game and right, but I 499 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: mean he's gonna he's still gonna get a lot of run. 500 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: But I do think they're going to have to have 501 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: like a like if they draft a running back this year, 502 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. They just paid a lot of 503 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: money to get Malcolm Brown in the mix. I think 504 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: not that much but for a backup for mackup running 505 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: back to almost two million dollars, and you know, I 506 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: just don't think he's going to be the workhorse that 507 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: he was. Like they it was very clear that and 508 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 1: talked to the running backs coach before the Super Bowl 509 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: basically said this was like it is going to be 510 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 1: different now for him, Like he's gonna be more like 511 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: split carries, use him in spots, kind of gotten, and 512 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: that's what it is said. Although like at that position, 513 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: I feel like it's always gonna be like that unless 514 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: you're Adrian Peterson. This next news item, I'm gonna hand 515 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: it to Greg because he obviously forced it into the show. Now, 516 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: I said, after you guys were pushing back. We don't 517 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: need to do it because I know West is sick 518 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: and tired of hearing about Malcolm Mitchell. Or no, Dan 519 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 1: doesn't think it matters. Well, Malcolm Mitchell officially announced his 520 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: retirement and West all your love song. West West thinks like, oh, 521 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: I've already heard you mentioned Malcolm Mitchell enough over the years. Well, 522 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: West can continue talking. When he catches five passes or 523 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: sixty three yards in the fourth quarter of the greatest 524 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: comeback ever and it turned out to be the last 525 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: football game he ever played, that's an incredible story and 526 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: people people are coming at him saying, no, that that's 527 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: not that big of a give me a break. What 528 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: did you accomplish in life? This guy, at the biggest moment, 529 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: played his very best. They wouldn't have won the Super 530 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: He authors a children's book. I've heard this five for 531 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: sixty three story more times than I've heard the Fishes 532 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: and Love story. You know what? You know what? That 533 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: sounds like you're trying and like the Patriots need more 534 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: legend around them, but you're trying to. Are you saying 535 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: that Malcolm Mitchell is your version of David Tyree? I 536 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,719 Speaker 1: mean David Tyree caught one lucky pass. This guy was 537 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: this was five for sixty three and one quarter is 538 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: the only outside receiving. Give him a little love. I 539 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything lucky about Tyree's catch, but I 540 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: will say this so my wife doesn't you know, she 541 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: doesn't know a ton about football or football players. I mean, 542 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: she knows my world a little, but she's more curious 543 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: like who broke his story as opposed to like who 544 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: caught the winning touchdown? How disappointed was No, I'll tell 545 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: you this, so don't even come into this bedroom. I 546 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: had to leave the house for twenty minutes. That night. 547 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: She asked me to do something. I left the house 548 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: for twenty minutes, and I text Mike and Tom Might 549 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,679 Speaker 1: and Dave shot our steam boss or whoever it was. 550 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: And I was like, Hey, I'm gonna leave for twenty minutes, 551 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: like because we were done with total access, stuff could happen. 552 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: Levian was gonna his mix taper was dropping that night, 553 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: so we felt like and I was like, I'm gonna 554 00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: leave house for twenty minutes. Mike and Tom got out, like, 555 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: don't let anything happen, but I'll be right back and 556 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: Gara Fos texting me when he gets winded this is happening, 557 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: and we're all starting to like make calls, and then 558 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: he just breaks it me while I'm not in the house, 559 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: and so I made the mistake of saying to Leah, 560 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: my lovely bride, um, I can't believe I left the 561 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: house when the Odell thing was happening. And her response was, 562 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: do you think it would have broken it if you 563 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: hadn't left the house? Is that what you're saying? And 564 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: I was like, that's a good and I, of course 565 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: my answer is yes. But I can't say that to 566 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: her because then she would feel like I'm blaming her 567 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: for Gary foldbreaking who I'm so happy, So I had 568 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: to just never mention it again. You see what's going 569 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: on here. He's now using his wife as a way 570 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: to let everyone else know. No, I'm just telling you 571 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: that I I cannot It's exactly right. I can never 572 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: bring this up to her ever again, my except right now. No. 573 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: But I was explaining to her the Malcolm Mitchell story 574 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: yesterday because it is actually really sad. I mean, he was, 575 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, mid rounder who looks so promising, like look 576 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: like wide receiver they've had in period. They just haven't 577 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:49,320 Speaker 1: they they haven't been here. But it's a tough systems 578 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: under Belichick. Yes, and high character guy like big in 579 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: the community, Big in like children's book. I mean he 580 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: started a literacy foundation for kids. Why do you hate kids? 581 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: All I can say is this, I'm glad we talked 582 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: about Malcolm Mitchell. I'm sorry about his misfortune. I'm glad 583 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: that he's working with the kids. That's good. But that's it. Moratorium, 584 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: fire off the cannon, Ricky Malcolm Mitchell. That is the 585 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: end of his his life here on the Round the 586 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. On the podcast before you go, I like 587 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: to check in on this, like where are you with UM? 588 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: You mentioned this year ago with your female fan base. 589 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: Is it a burgeoning subset of followers? UM? I would say, 590 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, a couple a couple of years. Try to 591 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: slide in the d M s on on that's such 592 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: a lie. There's like two or three a year. It's 593 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: your wife. No, I mean, well yes, everyone in while 594 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: that's one. I gotta keep things saucy. Speaking of keeping 595 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: it saucy, cam Newton was on James Cordon that late 596 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: night show and UM, this was weird. Let's listen in 597 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: to what Cam brought up kind of on his own 598 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,719 Speaker 1: and then march I'm giving I hope this is an 599 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: adult crowd. It looked like it is. No climax, shut 600 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,080 Speaker 1: the front door straight up. No, No, I'm going through 601 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: a transition right now. Like, oh, I'm going at least 602 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: done it in February. You got twenty eight days in February. 603 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: It's actually a great line, good line. Uh So Cam 604 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: Newton announces that he's abstaining from intimacy physical and not 605 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: announced for one month. Yeah, well, now what he said exactly, 606 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: It's it's more were reporters like, that's not This is 607 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: those things that people are like. People are like people like, 608 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: oh can you believe that denial? And I'm like, that's 609 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: not done. He did not say he's abstaining from sex. 610 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: The headlines are all wrong. He said he's substaining from climax. Okay, 611 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: I mean one sounds horrible, it seems possible, but I 612 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: mean John Ellwa used to do this during the playoff runs. 613 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: He would not have sex for a full month or 614 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: in this case, Mark is a believer in this science, 615 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: I would await here should get him on the podcast. 616 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 1: There is a huge movement out there where I think 617 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: Kim Newton, he didn't come up with this on his own. 618 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: It's definitely a movement. There's another there's another movement out 619 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: there that's been going for tens of thousands of years. 620 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: It's been it's been way more fun like that. I 621 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: think really human humanity marks are plug that's plugged into 622 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,800 Speaker 1: like the subreddit channels of a lot of different things. 623 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 1: Some of it like after dark and it goes on deep, 624 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: deep into an evening. Uh So you're saying there's what 625 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: I think what's draining that there's a whole subculture there is. 626 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: There's a very popular hashtag that I'm not sure I'm 627 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: allowed to say on this show, so it is called hashtag. 628 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: But that's different. Um, that's part of it. I think essentially, 629 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: it's it's the same end where you're not trying to 630 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 1: have the release of bodily fluids. Do you just stop 631 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: in the middle various fainting in the corner of room. 632 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: Right now, that's as much information as I will never 633 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: see Erica look as kind of just disgusted or disappointed 634 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: as she does right now. Well, live with it, and 635 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: then what do you do you just I don't know. 636 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: I think I think you're right to parse the words 637 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 1: the way you did, But I don't think I think 638 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: he was getting at more of the uh, you know 639 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: Rockies trainer thing. I could you know it's bad for 640 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: the legs. He would have said that, he would have said, 641 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: he would have said, we gotta follow up. Can you 642 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: reach out? I'll send him an email? Yeah, thank you? 643 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: All right? Rap Sheet has friends. It's a podcast you 644 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: can get uh anywhere where podcasts are available. I think, uh, 645 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: and you are the NFL media insider at rap Sheet, 646 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: and yes there there may be a home and home. 647 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: I might appear on the show, um, but probably what 648 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,680 Speaker 1: if we need if we really need guests like in 649 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 1: mayme or something. Okay, well, if that happens, I may 650 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: be on the show. And uh Ian, good luck and 651 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: uh listen garful. I know he's your friend. When he 652 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: joined the company, you liked it because you thought it 653 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: was all right. This is a guy that I respect, 654 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's gonna be out scooping me 655 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: on the regular. Then he gets the scoop of the year. 656 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: Don't let it get to you though. It's all it's 657 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,080 Speaker 1: all pep talk is fantastic. It's all. It's all in 658 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: the game. As they say, Well, I, I, for one, 659 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: feel I feel warmer now having listened to that pep talk, 660 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: like rats on your extension, Thank you. I appreciate that 661 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,880 Speaker 1: some people are nice. I'm a nice guy too. I 662 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: actually reached out privately and texted you to congrats yesterday 663 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: because it is quite a achievement. Because, let's listen, being 664 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: an insider, that's a stressful job. I can't believe you 665 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,600 Speaker 1: signed up for five more years and stuff was the 666 00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,800 Speaker 1: same row as Adam Schefter on the way there, couldn't 667 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: even speak to me. We did exchange cordial greetings and um, 668 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: some small talk and some banter. Alright, well, have a 669 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,800 Speaker 1: glass of champagne here at the bill More to celebrate 670 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: your great achievement. Ian Rappaport, Thank you, buddy, thank you. 671 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: All right, now it's time. This is what we've been 672 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: waiting for. Ian was great, great appetizer, set the table, 673 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 1: set the table in a beautiful way. But now market 674 00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 1: it's it's time for Freddy kitchens. How you do it? 675 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: I could not be happier about this moment in my life. 676 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: All right, here we go hit it all right, joining 677 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,040 Speaker 1: us here in the Around the NFL podcast. He is 678 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 1: the new head coach of the Cleveland Browns. Freddie Kitchens, 679 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: who Welcome to the show. Sound Effects. I didn't know 680 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: who We're good. I don't know sound signed up for 681 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,720 Speaker 1: the techno Like if you could, if you could choose 682 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: a walk up song, would that be it? It definitely 683 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 1: would not be like my hometown, but like Garth Brooks 684 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: or something not something E D M electronic. Yeah, Freddie, 685 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 1: welcome to the show. We're so happy to have you here. 686 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: You have in very short period of time become m 687 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: a fan favorite within the Around the NFL Podcast because 688 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: we like coaches that kinda keep it real. And it 689 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,920 Speaker 1: seems like one of the reasons why you've been a 690 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: breath of fresh air and why the Browns kept you 691 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: around is that you bring that sensibility to the team 692 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 1: and I feel like that's welcome and it seems like 693 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,840 Speaker 1: the players respond to it. Yeah. I think it's amazing 694 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: when you just kind of tell the truth and that's 695 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: not the thing. Yeah, Hell, somebody should um in today's society. 696 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 1: I mean, you never know, you've got either got to 697 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: be political or correct or you gotta blow smoke up 698 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: people's tales to get anywhere. And you know it's good 699 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: that you know, Hey, it's good I'm in Cleveland because 700 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, uh, we kind of get along with 701 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: the city and in the town, the community. Uh, in 702 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 1: the Browns organization. You know, it says something about the 703 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,200 Speaker 1: organization that they allow you to be yourself at a 704 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: time when a lot of the job is image and 705 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,279 Speaker 1: putting that image out there and being polished, and you're 706 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,799 Speaker 1: allowed to just yourself. Yeah, And I think that was 707 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,479 Speaker 1: the thing I kept hearing after I got the job, 708 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,359 Speaker 1: you know, from everybody, from ownership to people within the organization, 709 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,600 Speaker 1: and and uh, you know, I think I had a 710 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: lot of support to get the job within the organization 711 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: in general. It could have been the janitor or the 712 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: people in the kitchen, but I think those people are 713 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: important too, And um, everybody has a role to play. 714 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: And and when you make everybody feel that way, then 715 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: of course you're gonna hand their support because not everybody 716 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: does that. But I do think they have a significant 717 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,799 Speaker 1: role in what we're trying to get accomplished. Do you 718 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 1: get that sense after a year of being in Cleveland, 719 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 1: you mentioned that you kind of vibe with the fans 720 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: and it works that well. Like do you you started 721 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: to understand how you hold all of these people's kind 722 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: of broken hearts in your hand? Like Mark here you 723 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 1: we were talking before the show, is a big time 724 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Browns fan? Like how much you mean to me? Because 725 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 1: they're they're they're like afraid to love again. But I 726 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: think they're finally. I've heard that before, like not from 727 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 1: Browns fans just in general. But um, the thing I 728 00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: would say is with the Cleveland Browns fans and the 729 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: people that have been fans their whole life. Um, it's 730 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 1: very similar to I played football to the University of Alabama, 731 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: so I know what passion is all about. Um, and 732 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: it's very similar and probably uh even more so than 733 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 1: in in Alabama. I'm gonna get killed in Alabama for 734 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: saying that, but um, you know the passion. And now 735 00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: when when you have passion for things like that, you 736 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: can have great successes. I mean, hell, you think we 737 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl and we were seven eight and one. 738 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: They had struggled so long and hopefully those days are 739 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: behind it. But we've got a lot of work ahead 740 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: of us, um to get there because the expectations are 741 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: so high now. The thing I find so unusual as 742 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,359 Speaker 1: a fan that goes back to the eighties to drive 743 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: the fumble, all the heartbreak and essentially everything that happened 744 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: since the team came back after the move to Baltimore 745 00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,959 Speaker 1: is just that there is a competent quarterback. It has 746 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: been one side show after the next, Brandon Weed and 747 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: getting lost under American flags, like all sorts of stuff 748 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: that you just cannot believe it is happening to quarterbacks. 749 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:22,480 Speaker 1: That happen. It's one of the great actually at this 750 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: point for you though, having been there with Baker from 751 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: the first minute that he was with Cleveland, was there 752 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 1: a moment where before any of us realized you thought, 753 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,759 Speaker 1: wait a minute, this guy's got it going on. Yeah, 754 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: I think when you saw him practice, I mean just 755 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: in general, just throwing the ball. Um. You know, I 756 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000 Speaker 1: don't know how much you can teach j Accercy and like, 757 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some guru out there that can do 758 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: it all right, or at least I can tell you 759 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: that they'll do it. I've worked with some of those 760 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: that will tell you that can Michael Mackard, but it 761 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: didn't work for well I'm not gonna it didn't work 762 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: for some people we can think of, yeah, definitely, just 763 00:39:55,680 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: look at Arizona so um. But you know, but at 764 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: the end of the day, when he picks up a football, 765 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: he's very accurate with the football. And you saw that initially. 766 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if he's warming up or throwing routes 767 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: on air or whatever the case, he's accurate. Um. And 768 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: that's I don't think you can teach that. I mean, 769 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,360 Speaker 1: it's making it too simple. But when it comes to 770 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback skill set, accuracy is more important than having 771 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,359 Speaker 1: a cannon for an arm just the ability to put 772 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: the ball where it needs to be. Yeah, because I 773 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,839 Speaker 1: think from the time that uh, you know, the arm 774 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,799 Speaker 1: strength sometimes gets overblown from the standpoint of when he 775 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: decides to throw the ball to a certain receiver and 776 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: the receiver gets the ball in his hands, that's the 777 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: time that it takes to get there. Now, you can 778 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: do that by arm strength if you're accurate, or you 779 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: can do it by like processing the information and and 780 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,160 Speaker 1: uh seeing it come open before it actually was opened. 781 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: So it's all about the timing that the ball needs 782 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: to get there. From when the quarterback decides to throw 783 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,799 Speaker 1: it not necessarily starts as at but decides to throw 784 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: it and it ends up in the receiver's hands. It's 785 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: the time that I think he was more crucial than 786 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: arm strength. Would you have a problem after this interview 787 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: if I were to take your phone and Tex Baker 788 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: may feel just some of my personal thoughts about him. Yeah, no, 789 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,319 Speaker 1: not at all. He's actually just down the road, so 790 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: you can go see him in purse. It's about to faint. Freddie, Um, 791 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: where were you? Never love again? Right? Where were you 792 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: when you found out it was official? Freddie Kitchens offense 793 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: was gonna have Odell Beckham Jr. On it? And what 794 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: was your reaction? I was sitting in the draft we 795 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: call it the draft room. Was sitting in the draft room, 796 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: you know, talking to all the parties involved. So um 797 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: so sitting there and the middle of everything. I guess 798 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,839 Speaker 1: so you and I imagine for you it's a slam dunk. 799 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: It's like, go get this guy? Was there? I mean, 800 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,520 Speaker 1: was there anyway once that it became possibility that you 801 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: guys were gonna pull back what could have been some 802 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,320 Speaker 1: type of terms in terms of the trade that you 803 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 1: would have said that's too much or the opportunity to 804 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: get Odell Becka was just too great to pass up, 805 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,359 Speaker 1: no matter what. I don't I don't know what would 806 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 1: have happened for us too, you know, at the end 807 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: of the day, you know, it was a thing that 808 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: was presented to us and we were able to What 809 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: was the reaction right afterwards? Was it like a draft 810 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: because sometimes when you're like, you know, you have the 811 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: cameras on draft day and they showed that the Jones 812 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: family and everything and the player, you know that they 813 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: really want them, and they're like really doing some like 814 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 1: white guy high fives. They're getting all like really fired up. 815 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: Like where was that the reaction when you finally get it? Um? No, 816 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: it's like, you know John, you know, John's very good 817 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,839 Speaker 1: in those like situations. So it was kind of fun 818 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 1: for me to sit and watch him work and communicate 819 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: with other gms around the league and and how the 820 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: back and forth goes. It's almost like a car auction 821 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,080 Speaker 1: or something, you know, just it's just it's very unique 822 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: and uh to show see the respect but that the 823 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,279 Speaker 1: two men had for each other there is as men 824 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 1: and put a deal together like that. It was just 825 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,759 Speaker 1: it was really my first time of experience in it 826 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: on a personal level like that. Al Right, Freddie, it's 827 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: time for the speed round. I was ready for this. 828 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 1: Speed in my name has not been That's what HollyHood, 829 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: she's our producer. She's gonna hit the music and it 830 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna fly music or what it will be a 831 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: little bit more palatable. Here we go. Favorite athlete growing up, 832 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's best bar, food of wings, better, vintage MTV programs, 833 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: Singled Out or Remote Control. I don't know either one 834 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,840 Speaker 1: of them. Netflix and Chill or Hot Night on the Town? 835 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: Uh at Home being started being started? Quarterback but prestige 836 00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:53,320 Speaker 1: college football powerhouse that was probably fun? It was at times. 837 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: Is Lebron allowed to be a Browns and Cowboys fan? 838 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: Come out? Thank you? If you fumble out of the 839 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 1: end zone to turn over? That's dumb, right, yes, be honest. 840 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: You wish you had more screen time on Hard Knocks, 841 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 1: A little bit pop little? Did I did enough? Over 842 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 1: under Baker Mayfield m DP Awards before one and a 843 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,200 Speaker 1: half is the overunder I'm not, I don't, I'm not 844 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: in the prediction. That's the over. Who will sit on 845 00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: the iron throne? Uh? Biker? That's good. Worse than my 846 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: shark attack or elevator malfunction. Oh, shark attack. Greatest meat product, 847 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: greatest meat product, ribs. There you go, Madonna. Overrated, underrated, 848 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:45,120 Speaker 1: properly rated, underrated. I like that. Is it time to 849 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: believe in Cleveland? Yes, he did it. That wasn't too bad? Right? Yeah? No, 850 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:57,280 Speaker 1: I never saw singled out Jenny McCarthy Chris Hardwick Dating show. 851 00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 1: That's nice right in your college you brought in the wheelhouse. 852 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: You're busy, all right, Freddie, thank you so much for 853 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,920 Speaker 1: joining us. I know you're a busy guy and a 854 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 1: man in demand, so coming on our little podcast is 855 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,279 Speaker 1: a thrill for all of us, but especially Mark. Ye. 856 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:19,799 Speaker 1: This is fine, fellows. I'll bet Freddie Kitchens alright. There 857 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:24,280 Speaker 1: he goes Freddie Kitchens as advertised a laid back dude, 858 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,919 Speaker 1: and I think we actually have market outside chance at 859 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 1: some point of getting drinks with him. I just feel 860 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 1: like it's in the cards. I mean, we asked him 861 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,400 Speaker 1: after the interview what his drink of choices, and it 862 00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of my old friends, Like he's like, 863 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,799 Speaker 1: you know, in my refrigerator home, I have have some 864 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: natural lights and Natty lights and like my bourbon drinkers, 865 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: like we are going to We're going to find him 866 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,400 Speaker 1: and as he should be. Yeah, I'm giving it a 867 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,240 Speaker 1: better chance than than Dan did. I mean, I'm ready 868 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 1: to just make them the team of a t L. 869 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: Like right now, I feel like this is it's all 870 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,279 Speaker 1: gonna happen. We're all in love, we're spending. Maybe it's 871 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,360 Speaker 1: one of those things that people just say to be polite, 872 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,520 Speaker 1: but he repeated three times after the interview, if we're 873 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:06,400 Speaker 1: ever in Cleveland and want to get drinks, let him know. 874 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,959 Speaker 1: We're like, I'll be there tonight. By the way, so 875 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: we're in the back. He said something interesting during that, 876 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: Um we're talking about the accuracy of quarterbacks and he 877 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: mentioned the Cardinals. For a second, it was like, oh, 878 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 1: is that a Josh Rosen shop, But not at all. 879 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: It's reference to all the years he was there, right people. Yeah, 880 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,320 Speaker 1: he was there for a decade and it's very rare 881 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 1: that a guy's with one team for a decade. And 882 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 1: he was not the quarterbacks coach for almost for most 883 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,440 Speaker 1: of it, he was with Carson Palmer, but he as 884 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,399 Speaker 1: a tight ends in a ruins back coach. He saw 885 00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: some dreadful Cardinals quarterback John Skelton Ken John like the 886 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 1: people that they went through. It's true, like Bruce arians 887 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 1: and him and like that. Those two eras are a 888 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: great example of like you have a quarterback, you can 889 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 1: maybe make this. Well, you may not be right, you 890 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: may not be the quarterbacks coach, but everyone loses their 891 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 1: job when the quarterback us He said, shark attack over 892 00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,920 Speaker 1: or worse death than elevator malfunction. Do you guys agree? 893 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: Are you talking like the elevator would suddenly like the 894 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: wires disconnecting. I would go shark attack. I don't know. 895 00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,759 Speaker 1: I don't want to be attacked, right, I would definitely 896 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: go with elevator and that circumstance. But when you said that, 897 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: I thought, am I like trapped in? Because I was 898 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 1: thinking about this yesterday there was one of the elevator 899 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,920 Speaker 1: at Wes's because we were on a little different buildings. 900 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: There was like a five percent chance someone gets trapped 901 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 1: in that elevator and West's building uh this week and 902 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: has to like have a scenario where you decided, am 903 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: I gonna eat the person I'm stuck with? Or are 904 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,799 Speaker 1: they gonna eat me and they're gonna die? Why would 905 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: that won't it won't be right away, but you know 906 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: you could just like like the emergency button. I've taken 907 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,840 Speaker 1: this times in the past two days and so is 908 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 1: it's scary. I was telling Erica before the show that, like, 909 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: on like one way, I do want to die very quickly. 910 00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:59,840 Speaker 1: It's like like a curvy female assassin comes and takes me. 911 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: They're just like lauding my journalism skills, like he died 912 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:04,920 Speaker 1: on the job. He's such a hard Yeah we did. Yeah, 913 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,320 Speaker 1: that would be a big You get a lot of 914 00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 1: pop from it, especially like at an NFL Eventbody Kitchens, 915 00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: he was great, Oh wait, this is I enjoyed it. 916 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 1: But we have more coaches to talk to. Coaches like 917 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: they are lining up to talk to us. I mean, 918 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: the amount of people that wanted to spend time with 919 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 1: us is just staggering. Here is Sean McDermott love the 920 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills all right now joining us. He's entering his 921 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 1: third season as the head coach of the Buffalo Bills. 922 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,959 Speaker 1: Sean mcdimott, Welcome to the Round the NFL Podcast. Good 923 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:41,200 Speaker 1: to be here. Okay, is that your kind of music? 924 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 1: Well a little bit. I like it's just like Raith, Yeah, 925 00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: what is is? What is the rape culture in the 926 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,440 Speaker 1: Western New York these days? It's a change. Yeah, every 927 00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: every night um warehouses down there by the Canal. I 928 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,319 Speaker 1: think people, I think people taking some busses up to 929 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:05,279 Speaker 1: Canada getting the raven And maybe that's the thing my 930 00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: brother want to tell you. McGill, Yeah, there was there 931 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,880 Speaker 1: was a scene there that was a while ago. I 932 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,560 Speaker 1: bet it's probably I'm probably in bed three hours before 933 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:16,520 Speaker 1: that kicks off. Well, welcome to the show, Sewan. It 934 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 1: is a interesting time in the a f C. East. 935 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: I feel like because the Patriots they went again, everyone's 936 00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:30,520 Speaker 1: over it. But I'm gonna yeah, focusing more on the 937 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: Bills and the Jets. They are you guys are making 938 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,560 Speaker 1: moves to make a charge potentially in that division. I 939 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: imagine you were happy with how the off season unfolded 940 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: in free agency. Yeah, to this point. I mean, you know, look, 941 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 1: it's about always evolving in really um subscribing to that 942 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: growth mindset. We're always trying to grow, always trying to learn, 943 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 1: always trying to improve our football team, always trying to 944 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: improve individually and then collectively as a team. And Brandon 945 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 1: and his staff did a nice job of targeting some 946 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,040 Speaker 1: guys and we went out and got him. And and uh, 947 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:02,760 Speaker 1: I think they'll add to the players that we already 948 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,520 Speaker 1: have in Western New York. And and um continue to 949 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, work to put our best foot forward. How 950 00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: there ever, you know in house inside the Buffalo Bills organization, 951 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: a plot hatch store discussions around kidnapping Bill Belichick and 952 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: just simply removing him from humans. That's the best way 953 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: to try. And when you think, I mean, look, this 954 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: is Mark's fantasy is coming out in this question. No, 955 00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 1: we have a lot of respect for look for what 956 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,759 Speaker 1: they've done. Um, certainly, I know that there there's a 957 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: lot of um, you know, we call it rivalry between 958 00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: Bills fans and and and the Patriots. But but that said, listen, 959 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,960 Speaker 1: if you don't at least study someone in your industry 960 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: that's had success over the course of time like they've had, um, 961 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:47,960 Speaker 1: than shame on you. So but that said, you know, 962 00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: we're we're committed to continue to try and close that gap. 963 00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,040 Speaker 1: And and um, you know, put our best foot forward 964 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: as an organization. You're out of cap jail this year, 965 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 1: and we see some good moves with the offensive line 966 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 1: and John Brown cool by Lee um and then you 967 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: guys also pursued Antonio Brown. One of the reports was 968 00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 1: that you did not pursue O'Dell Beckham. Was the price 969 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: just too steep there? Well, I don't. I mean, that's 970 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 1: a conversation that honestly never even took place between Brandon 971 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,600 Speaker 1: and myself, to be honest with you. So, you know, 972 00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: I just think that you know, we're we're looking for 973 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:20,440 Speaker 1: the types of players. We've got a checklist of the 974 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,520 Speaker 1: types of players that we're looking for, and and um. 975 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,680 Speaker 1: And so we moved in a different direction with with 976 00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,279 Speaker 1: the players that you mentioned, Cole Beasley, John Brown. So 977 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,479 Speaker 1: I feel good about those editions and and the guys 978 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: that we already had. We had some young players get 979 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:34,960 Speaker 1: some valuable experience last year and and um, and that 980 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 1: will be important for us as we move forward. How 981 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: was it from your perspective, you know, when that when 982 00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,440 Speaker 1: that report comes out that you know from our network 983 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 1: that this trade could be coming, and you're you're the 984 00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: Bills coach, Like, how did that greet you? And like 985 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,239 Speaker 1: what was your part of that process? Yeah? I mean, look, 986 00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 1: you you can only control what you can control. And uh, 987 00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: and so Brandon and I talk a lot, and we 988 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 1: have a lot of conversations about players, and sometimes it 989 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,359 Speaker 1: goes somewhere and you're able to drill down a little 990 00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: bit deeper and do some more research and things, and 991 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: sometimes it stops with with only one conversation. So um, 992 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,919 Speaker 1: that's all part of trying to improve as a football team. 993 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,600 Speaker 1: And his Brandon has mentioned time and time again that 994 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 1: we have to have those conversations, right, whether it's Odell 995 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: Beckham or whether it's in this case Antonio Brown and 996 00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: great football player and and a tough matchup, a tough 997 00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,920 Speaker 1: guy to take away and and so um, you know 998 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,040 Speaker 1: we're not to me in a place where we we 999 00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,800 Speaker 1: can't have that conversation right in terms of hey, well 1000 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: we've already arrived, we're still building and so um, we 1001 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:37,239 Speaker 1: have to look at every avenue, pursue every avenue or 1002 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: every option to improve our football team. And that was 1003 00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 1: a conversation we had. What is with Josh Allen entering 1004 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,600 Speaker 1: year two in terms of what you expect and hope 1005 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,880 Speaker 1: for in his development? What what do you want to 1006 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,279 Speaker 1: see from him that maybe you didn't see as a rookie. Well, 1007 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,000 Speaker 1: I just think it's really to continue his evolution, continue 1008 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:58,400 Speaker 1: his development and growth in every area, which is a 1009 00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: the curiosity of the game, UM leadership. UM, those are 1010 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,280 Speaker 1: the off the field areas, and then continue to grow 1011 00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:09,520 Speaker 1: UM on the field as well. Hey would now NFL second, 1012 00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: your NFL defenses look like, how are they going to 1013 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 1: adjust to what your skills, what your skill set in 1014 00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,600 Speaker 1: this case Josh, what his skill set is and with 1015 00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,279 Speaker 1: his mobility that maybe some people didn't anticipate maybe in 1016 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: year one, that's a question. I get a lot UM. 1017 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: And so continuing then to build also the continuity with 1018 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,040 Speaker 1: with the receivers and the tight ends and the backs 1019 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: and the offensive line. UM. That's kind of a probably 1020 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:35,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of a hidden UM piece that I 1021 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,040 Speaker 1: think is important as it relates to UH, to football 1022 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,719 Speaker 1: and in particular offensive football. I know you're a wrestling guy. 1023 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,440 Speaker 1: I in seventh grade loss to a girl in wrestling, 1024 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,520 Speaker 1: and that sort of ended my career. For you, what 1025 00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 1: would be your changed? It changed a lot of things 1026 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: about your life. Yeah, I'm sure that's that did not 1027 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,240 Speaker 1: happen to you. It sounds like you were more successful 1028 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,719 Speaker 1: as an athlete. UM. What was your finishing move? How 1029 00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: do you drop someone out of the competition. How do 1030 00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: you end love the I love the straight face she 1031 00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,919 Speaker 1: kept for the last minute after dropping that on. Yeah, 1032 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean listen, Um, I'm kind of like in shock 1033 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 1: right now. But um no, it's like I would say, 1034 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: my best I like the low single leg takedown. And 1035 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: a big wrestling fan came last night from the n 1036 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,400 Speaker 1: C Double A Wrestling Championships in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and uh, 1037 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: I was able to watch Penn State win another national 1038 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,240 Speaker 1: championship there with kel Sanderson and what a great program 1039 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 1: they have and um, and so, but what are fan? 1040 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,920 Speaker 1: You got into two in the morning because you wanted 1041 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: to be there watching them. Yeah, I got in late 1042 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 1: or early however you want to say it. But just 1043 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: a neat experience. It's a but it was a bucket 1044 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: list thing for myself and I was able to experience 1045 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: that with with Terry Pogoula, our owner, and and just 1046 00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,560 Speaker 1: a neat, neat deal. And but you never lost to 1047 00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:53,480 Speaker 1: a girl. I can't right that happened. I can't say 1048 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: I did. But there's a lot of there's a lot 1049 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,120 Speaker 1: of girl wrestlers now that are pretty tough. I'll tell 1050 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: you that why in the sport? And then the way 1051 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: hits it's developed over the years. It's it's not just 1052 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,719 Speaker 1: the male sports. There's some good girl wrestlers out there. 1053 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,880 Speaker 1: The one marked last two though, was not very good. No, 1054 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,560 Speaker 1: it's no. I mean it was her first time wrestling. 1055 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,319 Speaker 1: I've had a few matches. You were a couple of 1056 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years in UM. Greg, I've been waiting 1057 00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: for you to jump in on this, but since you 1058 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,919 Speaker 1: haven't yet, I will Greg. Your favorite player, Frank Gore. 1059 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 1: He has now matriculated up to Western New York matriculated. 1060 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,240 Speaker 1: That's the second time I heard that. We're in today uncommon. 1061 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,160 Speaker 1: Who who do we have to thank for? That? Is it? 1062 00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: Hankstram matriculate the ball down the um. Frank Gore, the 1063 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,319 Speaker 1: ultimate veteran leadership addition is always saying like it's going 1064 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,839 Speaker 1: to be his last year. It's like, oh, he's six 1065 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:46,359 Speaker 1: and then here comes Frank or still piling up four 1066 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 1: and a half yards per carry ten cat Frank Cat 1067 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: like Frank or Franklin inconvenient truth. Your thoughts on adding 1068 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: Frank Gore to the back Uld. Yeah, I think it's 1069 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: a great addition, I really do. I mean this is Look, 1070 00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,680 Speaker 1: he's x amount of years old. I don't even know 1071 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: how old he is at this point. I mean maybe 1072 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,839 Speaker 1: I think maybe he may have maybe he's older than 1073 00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:10,319 Speaker 1: I am. I don't know. But at the end of 1074 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:13,120 Speaker 1: the day, Look, it's about production. It's about being able 1075 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,719 Speaker 1: to go out there and and love the leadership component 1076 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,240 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, and I love that that he's driven 1077 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: to be the best. And UM coached against him a 1078 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: couple of times in my NFL career, but then to 1079 00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:30,360 Speaker 1: meet him firsthand, UM over the last month here, you 1080 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,719 Speaker 1: see why he's been successful. You see why he's been 1081 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,280 Speaker 1: the back that he's been in a potential Hall of Famer, 1082 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:38,600 Speaker 1: And I'm just excited to have Lashawn and Frank in 1083 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,440 Speaker 1: the same backfield and just even more so than that, 1084 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: to watch them to make each other better, UM throughout 1085 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,239 Speaker 1: an entire season. I know they trained together sometimes in 1086 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: the off season and for two Look, I mean, look 1087 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 1: what we'll do is I think we'll just pull up 1088 00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,800 Speaker 1: the bus, the senior citizen bus, up to the field 1089 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: where they're doing right and and just load them on 1090 00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,040 Speaker 1: there and then we'll bring him back for practice the 1091 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: next day. Perfect plot. We'll get him out of there 1092 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,000 Speaker 1: early at like two thirty so they can get the 1093 00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 1: early early bird special dinner bring him in, you know. 1094 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: And I just think that, I mean, what better way 1095 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,840 Speaker 1: to challenge one another with a with a guy for 1096 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,240 Speaker 1: Lashawn that has been there and done that, and and 1097 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,520 Speaker 1: done a lot of the things that Leshawn's done at 1098 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: a high level. And uh, I just I think Iron's 1099 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 1: gonna sharpen Iron in that situation. I thought you were 1100 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,240 Speaker 1: going to defend him, and you're just cracking jokes. I'm 1101 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 1: that far, Frank, Well, I'm just saying what everyone else thinks. Right. 1102 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:33,520 Speaker 1: I had a question about one of the guys you're developing, 1103 00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,760 Speaker 1: one of the great underrated linebackers in the NFL. Do 1104 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,680 Speaker 1: you see Matt Milana as a guy who has Pro 1105 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,720 Speaker 1: Bowls in his future and maybe would have been a 1106 00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,120 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl or last year if not for the injury. Yeah, 1107 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,800 Speaker 1: I thought Matt had a had a Pro Bowl caliber 1108 00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 1: or worthy season up until the point where he had 1109 00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 1: the injury late in the year there, And uh, I 1110 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: didn't Gotta didn't get a lot of probably notoriety for 1111 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: his for his play this season, but um, I think 1112 00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: he's off to a very good start. Um just two 1113 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,320 Speaker 1: years in and anxious to see him come back this 1114 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:03,880 Speaker 1: offseason and attack the off season and get off to 1115 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: a great start for us next year. You know, this 1116 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,360 Speaker 1: is a game we call. They say, Okay, we wouldn't 1117 00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,680 Speaker 1: say it. We wouldn't We wouldn't do it because we're 1118 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: plugged in. We understand what you're trying to do up 1119 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 1: there in Buffalo. But they say, like a move like 1120 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: Frank Gore joining the Bills, why the Bills are not 1121 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 1: ready to compete? Why would you bring a guy and 1122 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: that's like a a playoff compliment type guy to put 1123 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:30,120 Speaker 1: you over the top. That's what they say. What do 1124 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 1: you say to those people that say the Bills are 1125 00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,920 Speaker 1: not close and they think they are, Well, I would 1126 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,919 Speaker 1: say that we've got a lot of work to do 1127 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna focus on and continue to focus on 1128 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:43,280 Speaker 1: what we do and how we do it and and um, 1129 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: you know, try and block all the all the noise out. 1130 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're not into the world of distractions and 1131 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: noise and people can say what they want, um, and 1132 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 1: we're going to continue to work hard. That's that's the 1133 00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 1: way you get to where you're trying to get to. 1134 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,800 Speaker 1: I love how your GM came out and defended Buffalo 1135 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 1: and West. I was born in Rochester. I know that 1136 00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,080 Speaker 1: part of the country, and it's just like the Bills. 1137 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 1: Maybe if you started the NFL from scratch today, there 1138 00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,320 Speaker 1: would be no team in Buffalo. We get that. But 1139 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it's there and that there's is there 1140 00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:10,960 Speaker 1: a chip on the shoulder sometimes to say, listen, forget 1141 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,160 Speaker 1: about all this nonsense. We'll get the free aedence we need. 1142 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: Buffalo is there is pride here. It's one of the 1143 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,720 Speaker 1: toughest places to play. Yeah, I mean listen, you know, 1144 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,080 Speaker 1: when you're interviewing for head coaching jobs in the NFL, 1145 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,160 Speaker 1: there's only thirty two of them, and so you're looking for, 1146 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, the just the opportunity to get one. And 1147 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: I just think I'm very grateful that that for me, 1148 00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,120 Speaker 1: that opportunity came in Buffalo, because that the fit has 1149 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 1: been so right for me and my family. The types 1150 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: of people that are in Buffalo, the culture and Buffalo 1151 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: around the city, that's what I grew up around, That's 1152 00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: how I was raised and so um, I'll defend it 1153 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: till till the day I die with with and because 1154 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: of the people that are there. It's it's really it's 1155 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,160 Speaker 1: not the city, it's the people around the city. Um, 1156 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,120 Speaker 1: you know, it's South Buffalo, It's it's it's West Seneca, 1157 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,800 Speaker 1: it's all these its towns around Buffalo, Orchard Park. I mean, 1158 00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: in history and the tradition of the Buffalo Bills. Let's 1159 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,000 Speaker 1: not forget what they what they did in the early 1160 01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,520 Speaker 1: nineties for so many years, and and I just think 1161 01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,120 Speaker 1: that people sometimes forget that. All Right, it's time for 1162 01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 1: the speed round. We call it the Crucible. Crucible. You know, 1163 01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,800 Speaker 1: he's in like flip flaps. He thinks this is going 1164 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:18,000 Speaker 1: to be You have to matricular resort, casual war. You 1165 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,960 Speaker 1: have to matriculate, matriculate your way through these to survive. Okay, 1166 01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: here we go. Ready hit it, Ricky? First album you bought? 1167 01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,720 Speaker 1: Michael Jackson? Uh? The Internet? Has it helped or hurt 1168 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 1: man more helped? Does life exists beyond our planet? Yes? Like, 1169 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: do you own any gene shorts? Not? Currently? Are there 1170 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 1: too many superhero movies? Yes? Who's your favorite athlete growing up? 1171 01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:53,120 Speaker 1: Bryan Bosworth? I did a book report on the Bobs 1172 01:00:53,160 --> 01:00:57,560 Speaker 1: in grades right, gotta be Uh? Would you let your 1173 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:01,920 Speaker 1: children attend to Bill's Tellgate? Yes? Good, good, Every every 1174 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,720 Speaker 1: area of the tail. Go No, you have to cook 1175 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,720 Speaker 1: one meal to save man kind? What is it? Ice cream? 1176 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: One TV show you can watch with your wife and 1177 01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 1: you both enjoy it. M hmm. This is everybody loves Raymond. 1178 01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 1: You can say no, let's go with Cosby Show. Alright, 1179 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,120 Speaker 1: alright and Michael Jack. All right. Hard Knocks training camp 1180 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Who says no? Give me give 1181 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 1: me a question again, Hard Knocks Training Camp with the 1182 01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:39,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Who says no? Who says no? Ski Beyonce overrated, underrated, 1183 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:47,400 Speaker 1: properly rated? Uh, underrated, that's lake effects, no real or 1184 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:53,080 Speaker 1: government conspiracy. That's right. That was the crucible. You survived 1185 01:01:54,440 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: with more Freddy. We had Freddy Kitchens. He was sweating. 1186 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:05,680 Speaker 1: He was the same questions, different questions. All right, Oh, 1187 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,600 Speaker 1: he did think that Madonna was underrated? Absolutely, What did 1188 01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:13,600 Speaker 1: you say about we've learned that you guys believe in 1189 01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: the diva's out there? Yeah, Sean McDermott, I am a 1190 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Jets fan and I we have a kinship with the Bills. 1191 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: We want to take the a f C East over. 1192 01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: One of us has to do it. That's it, because 1193 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,479 Speaker 1: it's not my Jets. It's got to be the Bills. 1194 01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:37,520 Speaker 1: So good luck to you, Thank you great Scott, and 1195 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:42,200 Speaker 1: out goes Sean McDermott. He was delightful as well. Look 1196 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: at these coaches so likable. We're total like like that, 1197 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:48,720 Speaker 1: we just fall for anyone that we meet like that, 1198 01:02:49,080 --> 01:02:51,200 Speaker 1: like any like girl that gives us just like a 1199 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:54,120 Speaker 1: little bit of attention. We're just like, oh, she's hot. 1200 01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I think it helps us. Then we're not like, I 1201 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: don't know, let's take that out of the show. That kid, 1202 01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,680 Speaker 1: it's the end of Greg's career. It helps that we're 1203 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:07,000 Speaker 1: not asking like hard hitting journal questions. We're just trying 1204 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:09,160 Speaker 1: to get along, just like the like the boars at 1205 01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: NFL Network. It's it's got to be, you know, a 1206 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,840 Speaker 1: grind to be a head coach and just face the 1207 01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: same questions day after day. So we try to we 1208 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: try to mix it up with these guys. But he 1209 01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,000 Speaker 1: he's a guy. It's easy to root for. And I 1210 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 1: liked his answer about you know how he kind of 1211 01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,320 Speaker 1: reps Buffalo and Western New York. It just seems like 1212 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: a good fit between city team and head coach, which 1213 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I think you want, right and the Bills for a 1214 01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:37,160 Speaker 1: long time had the issue where the general manager and 1215 01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: the coach were not brought in together and the relationship 1216 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,160 Speaker 1: was fraught. We heard stuff that wasn't even reported about 1217 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,320 Speaker 1: past clashes. And these two really like each other and 1218 01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:47,840 Speaker 1: get along and they have the supportive ownership. So there's 1219 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 1: a patience there that in other cities might not exist. 1220 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,920 Speaker 1: I mean, he went to a wrestling match with the 1221 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: owner sign. That's a good sign that everybody is in 1222 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:59,520 Speaker 1: a good place. All right, good talk, guys. We we'll 1223 01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: be back on Wednesday. We will have more action from 1224 01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,720 Speaker 1: here at the owners meetings for you. We don't want 1225 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,760 Speaker 1: to tease it out just yet. I'll be surprised. Who's 1226 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,640 Speaker 1: gonna be on. We got a big time head coach. 1227 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,880 Speaker 1: You want to drop it. We got the new head 1228 01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: coach of the Green Bay Packers coming up on Wednesday, 1229 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: so make sure you check that out. And maybe we'll 1230 01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:21,120 Speaker 1: have some more special guests. So thank you to everyone 1231 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,960 Speaker 1: for listening. And now it is time, and thank you 1232 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,800 Speaker 1: to Ian Rappaport, thank you to Freddy Kitchens of course, 1233 01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. Now it's time to get to the pool. 1234 01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,320 Speaker 1: You know, please, yeah, get some raise, Mark, I want 1235 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:36,600 Speaker 1: you in a speedo in about twenty minutes. That's the 1236 01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,480 Speaker 1: only swimwear that I own or where to everyone's delight, 1237 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,200 Speaker 1: all right, that's it. This is Dan hans Is signing 1238 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 1: off from Phoenix at the Biltmore for Quiet Storm, the Mailman, 1239 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: the old Boss, Ricky Hollywood killing it, sitting criss cross 1240 01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,000 Speaker 1: apple sauce style on the floor. That's what they say, 1241 01:04:55,040 --> 01:05:12,520 Speaker 1: now till Wednesday.