1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. We 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: hope all of you had fabulous July fourth. So I 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: was down on the first inaugurald July fourth at the 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Gulf of America. Had an amazing time. Buck was down 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: in Miami. We hope that you have gotten back or 6 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: are in the process of returning from what may have 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: been a long holiday weekend. We've got a ton of 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: news to dive into with all of you. The Big 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: Beautiful Bill passes as we told you it would. There 10 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 1: was some drama, but Trump signed it on July fourth. 11 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: It is now law certainty when it comes to taxes 12 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: and beyond. We will discuss much of that, as well 13 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: as border security. Mom Donnie gets caught lying about his 14 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: race on college applications. He is the Democrat nominee for 15 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: mayor in New York City. I do think that is 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: actually a storeory of some significance. Net and Yahoo visiting 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: with Trump. We will update you on any of the 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: fallout there. Puff Daddy, Sean Combs, Diddy, whatever you want 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: to call him. We told you we were skeptical of 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: the case. A lot of people were shocked when he 21 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: was found not guilty of the most significant of those charges. 22 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: We will discuss that quite a lot as well. But 23 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: the biggest story I think coming out of the weekend 24 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: is the flooding situation which may well kill unfortunately one 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: hundred people in Texas. And I know many of you 26 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: are in that listening area with us right now in 27 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: Texas and are listening to us and experienced exactly what 28 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: happened over the holiday weekend as a massive amount of 29 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: rain fell and the river there swept away and rose 30 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: at a level that is frankly completely unheard of historically occurs. 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: It's one of these things where it happens five hundred 32 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: year thousand year floods, and it happened in the middle 33 00:02:10,680 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: of the night, and happened right along a basically church 34 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: camp that has been in Texas for nearly one hundred years, 35 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: just shy of one hundred years. I bet that many 36 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: of you in that area, many of you who are Texans, 37 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: may have gone, friends and family went there, Many young 38 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: wives lost. It is an awful, awful story there, and 39 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately it immediately became a political ridiculousness. People trying to 40 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: blame President Trump, people trying to blame Trump voters Republicans, 41 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 1: and that happened almost instantaneously. Based on everything that I 42 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: have seen and read, and I tried to familiarize myself 43 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: to a great degree with this story, it's just a 44 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: cavalcade of really unfortunate events, in particular the fact that 45 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: many of these alerts which all went out, were going 46 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: out in the middle of the night, and a lot 47 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: of people were sleeping, and the water rose so quickly 48 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: that before people were even aware that they were in danger, 49 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: many people found themselves standing in water, or even having 50 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: their homes in the places where they were staying near 51 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,959 Speaker 1: the river underwater. In a way that just happened overnight, 52 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: And so I think there's going to be a lot 53 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: of discussion going forward about how do we handle some 54 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,880 Speaker 1: of these situations in the future. I imagine a lot 55 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: of you out there experienced it yourself, and you're listening 56 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: to us right now. I shared a charity, I'll retweet 57 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: it that I've donated to that I would encourage a 58 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: lot of you if you want to give back to 59 00:03:55,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: this community. But Buck, I think the biggest unfortunate aspect 60 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: of this is that it happened in the middle of 61 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: the night. Everybody is sleeping. You may be getting these 62 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: alerts on your phones. You probably have the radio turned off. 63 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: And it just happened so quickly that it caught people. 64 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,720 Speaker 1: A lot of people unaware the alerts were going out. 65 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: It was just most people were sleeping. 66 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 2: There are a lot of analyzes already about what could 67 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 2: have been done to have avoided this, And I know 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of heartbreak for the families, for the communities, 69 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: and the girls at this camp, Mystic, which lost already 70 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 2: twenty seven of its girls, its campers, and counselors. I mean, 71 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,480 Speaker 2: it's horrible beyond words, and our hearts break for those 72 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 2: who were affected by this. Clay I remember summer camp, 73 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: if it's so many of us, it's supposed to be 74 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,119 Speaker 2: a time of joy, and like a lot of people, 75 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 2: some of their fond perhaps even fondest memories or summer 76 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 2: camps growing up. And to have something like this, a 77 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 2: tragedy like this hit that community, it's just unthinkable. Now 78 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 2: we have immediately what could have been done, and they're 79 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 2: still searching. 80 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 3: I know, so they're searching. 81 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: Rescue efforts are underway, and there have been some incredibly 82 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: brave first responder efforts that have saved a lot of 83 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 2: lives in this process. I mean they are pulling people, 84 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: have been pulling people out of trees, off of rooftops. 85 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 2: The photos, the imagery of these floods does bring home 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 2: pretty quickly to anybody, no matter where you are across 87 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 2: the country, around the world, just how violent and how 88 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 2: extreme these flood waters were. And also for anyone who's 89 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: been around or knows about this, it's more like a 90 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: wall of kind of mud and silt. A lot of 91 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: the time. It's a tremendous amount of debris in this water. 92 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: It moves fast, it comes in high, and there's a 93 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 2: lot of stuff in it as well, so it can 94 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 2: be very hard to to maneuver in. And so it's 95 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 2: it's obviously very lethal. I mean they've had clay. I 96 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: was reading about previous rescue attempts. I believe there was 97 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,480 Speaker 2: a rescue attempt for a previous flood situation where the 98 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 2: where a bus full of people was swept away. So 99 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: they were trying to get people away from it, and 100 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 2: the bus itself got swept away. To give you a 101 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 2: sense of how houses disappear. Obviously, the camp uh, these 102 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: sort of camp grounds that these girls were in not 103 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: able to withstand this, and people are saying, well, how 104 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 2: could the warning have gone out sooner or what could 105 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 2: have been done differently? There's siren alarm systems that are 106 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: in place in neighboring counties that went off. There was 107 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: an effort to get a similar alarm system in place 108 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 2: in the county where Camp Mystic was was located, and 109 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 2: they didn't get the funding for it. Now would an 110 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: alarm system like that, right, there's alarms that go off 111 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 2: to your phone, there's the warnings, there's all these different 112 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: pieces come into play. But having sirens effectively like an 113 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 2: air raid siren situation, would that have changed this at 114 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: four am in this county, That's going to be something 115 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 2: that people look at, I think very closely. But the 116 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 2: timing of it could not have been worse in terms 117 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 2: of the casualties that would come from the event, because 118 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 2: people are the most you know, the most likely to 119 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: be asleep, the least likely to be communicating with each 120 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 2: other in the area, and also the least able to 121 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 2: handle moving. I mean, it's just that the truth is, 122 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 2: any human being you wake them up at four o'clock 123 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 2: in the morning, they're moving more lethargically they're not thinking clearly, 124 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 2: and now you think about little kids at four am, 125 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: and it's just a it's a horrific situation. And I 126 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: know that it's it's been a heartbreak for Texas and 127 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 2: for the whole country. Yeah, I think what you hit 128 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: on is something that's going to be talked about. I 129 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: turned my phone off a lot at night just because 130 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to be woken up. And I do 131 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: you think that one of the things that they've tried 132 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 2: to do with tornadoes and tornadoes come through where I 133 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 2: live and have hit my hometown of Nashville recently in 134 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: a significant and deadly way. The tornado sirens are basically 135 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 2: impossible to ignore, and we have situations where people don't 136 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: get the notifications on their phones. Is there a flood 137 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 2: related siren that can be installed. I don't know the 138 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: answer to that, but I think that's the conversation that's 139 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: going to happen going forward. 140 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 3: Warning systems always have this. Look. 141 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: I'm in Florida, the hurricane capital of America, right, and 142 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: you have Floridians who you're not going to get them 143 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: to move out of where you know. I know people 144 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 2: who have been here now they've obviously been alive for 145 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 2: fifty sixty seven years. They've been through a lot of hurricanes. 146 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: You're not getting them to move no matter what the yeah, 147 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 2: what the warning is, because they've been through. Look, we 148 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: just had this in Florida actually recently, where it was 149 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 2: this is the big one. It's gonna hit Tampa. Tampa 150 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 2: is going to be and then sure enough it actually 151 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 2: hit western hit my in laws area western North Carolina 152 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 2: much harder than it did the Tampa area in terms 153 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: of the damage and the casualties from it. So in 154 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: this case, Clay, if you have a lot of alarms 155 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: going off, a lot of warnings going off in a 156 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: place that is used to flooding, what then is the 157 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 2: threshold for Oh, no, we've got to get to high 158 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 2: ground right now, as opposed to the area that we're 159 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 2: in is having another flood right That's where you know 160 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: you can sense there's going to be some difficulty here 161 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: to figure out how this could be avoided. And then 162 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 2: also people, i think even Congressman Roy, who this is 163 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 2: this a lot of this happened in his district, Chip 164 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 2: Roy saying in an interview it's also a once in 165 00:09:51,320 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 2: a century event, So it's very hard to prepare appropriately 166 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 2: for what people call in probability analysis, a black swan 167 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: or a fat tale event. Right, fat tale is a 168 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: low probability, very high impact basically something that you don't 169 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: think is going to happen, but if it does happen, 170 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: it's really bad. Well, that is what the situation is 171 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 2: with these floods. So there'll be analysis of this. And 172 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 2: I don't even think, I don't know how much you 173 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: want to even talk about. There are people who have 174 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 2: come out and tried to politicize this right away, and 175 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: it's gross, it's pathetic, and it's really just evidence of 176 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: a political derangement, you know. I think it's much more 177 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: important for everybody to focus on the first respond to efforts, 178 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 2: the cert ongoing search and rescue efforts, and to really 179 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: look at this honestly and see what could have been 180 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: done to make sure that. 181 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 3: This won't be done. This won't happen again in the future, 182 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 3: no doubt. 183 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: And I think what you said too, sometimes we actually 184 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: over deliver in terms of, hey, there's a flood warning. 185 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: There's a flood warning, and sometimes the floods aren't that significant, 186 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: but there is a flood warning. I think, really what 187 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: happened here is it happened in the middle of the night, 188 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: and I just think people, you know, most of history, 189 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: you wouldn't have had a cell phone to be getting 190 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: alerts on If there is a way to sit around 191 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: and really contemplate this going forward when they are able 192 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: to fully have done all the recovery and all those efforts. 193 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: I do wonder whether one of the things that they 194 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 1: added here after the devastating tornadoes we've had is the sirens. 195 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: Is there a way to have sirens along the river 196 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: that notifies in a serious way when things like this 197 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: are happening because people are sleeping. I mean, I think 198 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people frankly just got swept away in 199 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,959 Speaker 1: the middle of the night, never even knew they were 200 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: in danger because the waters came up so fast here. 201 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: Yes, so they'll look at this much more closely. The 202 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 2: experts will look at what could have been done here. 203 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: But this. 204 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: Is true of a lot of natural disasters, which this 205 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 2: clearly is. If it's bad enough, if you're talking more 206 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: about casualty mitigation than casualty elimination, meaning you're not going 207 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 2: to be able to save everybody you're trying to save 208 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 2: as many people as possible, But when you're looking at 209 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: almost one hundred people in this area from flooding, that's 210 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: just the numbers just far too there's numbers far too 211 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 2: high for anyone to think that this system was sufficient 212 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: given the risk. 213 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: Factors, no doubt. 214 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: Also, the holiday weekend probably increased the number of people, 215 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: sadly that we're camping on alongside of the banks and 216 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: the river, as many people were doing to celebrate with 217 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: their friends and family. So it really was the worst 218 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:41,119 Speaker 1: possible scenario with timing, with date and everything else associated 219 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: with it. But our thoughts and prayers and we're going 220 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: to again. I'll retweet what I am told is a 221 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: very good charity that is local in the area that 222 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: I've supported, And if you're wanting to do something, you 223 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: can join this as well. If you want to call 224 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: in and share your thoughts on this, if you're live 225 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: in the area or you know people affected by it. 226 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: Lines obviously are open. We know we have our San 227 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: Antonio affiliate WOAI, which is a huge signal which. 228 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 2: Does reach into this area. We have some other signals 229 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: from smaller stations that are in the area. So if 230 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 2: you're listening and you want to fill us in on 231 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: just what you saw that happen yourself, or what you 232 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: know from people firsthand, what you're hearing about the search 233 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: and rescue and first responder efforts which are ongoing. I 234 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 2: believe they're still unfortunately expecting clay pretty heavy weather today, 235 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: so that complicates matters. 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We'll get 268 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 2: some of your calls here if you call in and 269 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 2: are from the area where these horrible plugs occurred, so 270 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 2: we'll get some of that here. Coming up in the 271 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 2: back half of this hour, I want to hear from you. 272 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: Our thoughts and prayers go out to the those effected, 273 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 2: the families and the community here of the Hill Country 274 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: of Texas. We've got a lot of news stories we're 275 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 2: going to get to over the course of today. Clay 276 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 2: mentioned the Shawn Combs verdict, which was no way around 277 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: it a huge, a huge win for Shawn Combs, which 278 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: is that he was only he was only found guilty 279 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 2: essentially of two prostitution charges, so paying prostitutes, which is 280 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: not something that people go away for long periods of 281 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: time generally. I know they say he faces up to 282 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 2: ten years in federal prison, but he's not. I don't 283 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 2: think he's going to get anywhere near that. Clay, We'll 284 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 2: see the judge could decide to make an example of 285 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: him on the lower counts, but I think that would 286 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: look given that the higher counts would could have sent 287 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: in a prison for life where acquittals, I don't think 288 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 2: we're going to see that. So Clin and I I 289 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 2: think on the overall trajectory of that, we got that 290 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 2: one right. We knew that was The Rico case was 291 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: super shaky because people think Rico, they think mobsters, They 292 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 2: don't think one guy who's paying prostitutes and obviously did 293 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,840 Speaker 2: he did. He Sean Combs is sicko and a bad person, 294 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: but that doesn't necessarily send you a prison. 295 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 3: So there's that. 296 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: There's also the DOJ statement about the Epstein situation, which 297 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: we could talk about today and will. The DOJ and 298 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: the FBI have come out to say, without a whole 299 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 2: lot more explanation, Clay that there is no client list, 300 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: there was no blackmail operation, and Epstein killed himself. I 301 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 2: do not believe the first part of that. 302 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: I don't. I'm sorry. 303 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: I know that our people are in charge now and 304 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: there's good people that are looking into this. And now 305 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that I'm not suggesting anyone's in on 306 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,640 Speaker 2: it or covering it up at the Senior Life, DOJ 307 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: or FBI. Now, m clay, I think you and I 308 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 2: can see that well. I believe and I think you're 309 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 2: with me on this that a lot of this stuff 310 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: was a lot of the evidence, the tapes, et cetera 311 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: was destroyed and erased a long time ago, which has 312 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 2: always been my concern, and so they don't have it. 313 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and my thing from the get go is it's 314 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: hard to become worth hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. 315 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: Most people who are worth hundreds and hundreds of millions 316 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: of dollars and make it in their life. You go 317 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: back and you look, I'm not talking about becoming a millionaire. 318 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 1: This guy was nearly a billionaire. Usually you have to 319 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: build something. What did he build? 320 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: He was given in a sixty or seventy million dollar 321 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 2: house given, So explain this to me, everybody, this guy anyway, 322 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot. I'm just telling you right now. We 323 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: can get into it. I don't buy it, Guys, I 324 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 2: don't buy it. I don't accept the DOJ response on this. 325 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into this in a sect because the 326 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: other part of this is they gave him a sweetheart 327 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 1: deal before all of this came out. Anyway, we'll dive 328 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: into all of that and more. 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We know we're on in 346 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 1: Curvell Or know that many of you are listening to 347 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: us right there that have been dealing with the tragedy there. 348 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: We will get the absolute latest, uh in the third 349 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: hour of the program as as we break all that down, 350 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: so that will be coming, that will be coming your way. Uh, 351 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: And we will break all of that down. Now, we 352 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: mentioned the the Epstein news, So here's what I would 353 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: say in general, off the top. I don't believe that 354 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: this guy could have become wealthy on the level that 355 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: he is wealthy based on what I have seen by 356 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 1: just being an investment guy in New York. That means 357 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: there's never been something that he created that is incredibly 358 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: valuable in order usually to end up with hundreds of 359 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: millions of dollars. You're not just a money manager. And 360 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: all of this was super shady. And I'll start with 361 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: the part that has always not made sense to me. 362 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,639 Speaker 1: If you go back to the original basically deferred prosecution 363 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: agreement when they gave him house arrest, the one that 364 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: everybody got angry about as more details about Epstein came out. 365 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 1: It's never made sense to me that he got such 366 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: preferential treatment in the state of Florida that first time, 367 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: before we even get into the story becoming bigger. 368 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: So Annie McCarthy, who we've had on the show many times, 369 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: who was a prosecutor in the Southern District of New 370 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 2: York for over twenty years, okay, a federal prosecutor. When 371 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,439 Speaker 2: I talked to him years ago about this, said, have 372 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: you ever heard of the deal that was given to Remember, 373 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 2: the deal was so favorable that a Trump administration in 374 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: the first administration, cabinet official. I think it was at 375 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: the I don't want to say because I don't want 376 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 2: to get it wrong, but there was a cabinet level official, 377 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 2: not like a Secretary of State level, but I think 378 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: it was a labor department had to step down because 379 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 2: he had previously. Guys, give me the name of the 380 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 2: US attorney for I think it was the Southern District 381 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,640 Speaker 2: of Florida who signed off on this because he had 382 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 2: previously been involved in the Epstein plea deal. Okay, so 383 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 2: that's how argreeious it was. But I asked Andy, I said, 384 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: have you ever heard of a federal criminal by the way, 385 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: you know, sex criminal case where somebody was able to 386 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 2: get immunity for future unnamed collaborators. And he said, no, 387 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,120 Speaker 2: I've never heard of that, because why would any prosecutor 388 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: give that to somebody as part of a plea bargain. 389 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 2: There's no reason to do that. Epstein got that in 390 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 2: that deal as part of the and it was incredibly 391 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: I mean, the guy was was you know, I mean, 392 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 2: the stuff he was doing is it's just horrible. He's 393 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 2: paying girls who were I think as young as thirteen, 394 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: fourteen years old. I mean stuff that would get a 395 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 2: person sent away for decades and decades, maybe forever for 396 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: And he got like six months of showing up to 397 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: like the county jail basically and you know, sitting at 398 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: a desk. 399 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: I mean it was and being able to go home. 400 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: Somebody. 401 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 2: It was crazy, the deal, Okay, So someone explained to 402 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,679 Speaker 2: me why he got that deal. Someone explained to me 403 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: how this wasn't of higher interest to the authorities in 404 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: the state of Florida at the time. Now, the Palm 405 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 2: Beach County prosecutor. Remember federal, he got nailed on federal. 406 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: He could have been nailed on for by Palm Beach 407 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: County Clay. You go on and on with this stuff. 408 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 2: All the houses are set up with surveillance cameras. I mean, 409 00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: I shouldn't say surveillance. 410 00:22:58,880 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 3: It's really more. 411 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 2: You know, in interior, so it's not like external cameras. 412 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 2: The rooms are micd up. Okay, He's got his own 413 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: bedrooms and everything else in massage, parlor room and all 414 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: this stuff miked up. And I talked about this before 415 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: they had the FBI raid the New York home which 416 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 2: he was given, which is worth like sixty to eighty 417 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 2: million dollars depending. I mean, it's like the most extravagant 418 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 2: home anybody could ever live in on the Upper East 419 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,479 Speaker 2: Side of Manhattan. He was given this home to your 420 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 2: point about where the money was made play and. 421 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: The FBI breaks in. 422 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: They find that he has tapes which the FBI lost 423 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,679 Speaker 2: custody of matter of public record. He has tapes that 424 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 2: are in a. 425 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: Safe which is hidden in a wall. 426 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: Which the FBI broke. Who keep If he's just making 427 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: home videos of himself, why would he keep the home 428 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: videos in a safe in the wall. Like it makes 429 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: no sense. 430 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: All of it doesn't add up. And then we've also 431 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: had statements made. Let me just play a couple of 432 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: these that I think are going to be difficult to 433 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: walk back in the wake of this. Now, I think 434 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: it's fair to say I don't think cash Ptel, I 435 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: don't think Dan Bongino. I think a lot of this 436 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 1: evidence was gone right. I think they wiped it clean. 437 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: I don't think there's some sort of cover up on 438 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: behalf of the either of these guys, but I do 439 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: think this was Pam Bondi On February twenty first of 440 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five, saying she's got the Epstein client list 441 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: on her desk right now and she's reviewing it, and 442 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: then I'm going to play another cut later. They have 443 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: suggested that there was going to be a major revelation 444 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: and basically there's now nothing here. They're saying, cut one. 445 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: Doj maybe releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients? 446 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: Well, that really happen. 447 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: It's sitting on my desk right now to review. That's 448 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 5: been a directive by President Trump. 449 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: I'm reviewing that. 450 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 5: I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the 451 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 5: process of being reviewed because that was done at the 452 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 5: directive of the president from all of these agencies. 453 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 2: So so have you seen anything that you said, Oh 454 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: my gosh, not yet. 455 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 3: Okay, So to be fair, not yet. 456 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: And let me also say this, the client list some 457 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: of these people, and that this also goes with the 458 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: airplane flights. And just because you were on a private 459 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: jet doesn't mean that I mean, we've talked with Alan 460 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: Dershowitz about this. It doesn't mean that you were engaged 461 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,919 Speaker 1: in some sort of awful behavior. Right there are a 462 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: lot of people who flew on these jets they had 463 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: ten people named on them, all these different things, but 464 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: there was the idea that there were going to be 465 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: revelations that were more significant. Here is I think in 466 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: March cut thirty another one from PAMBONDI. 467 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: Listen, you're looking at these documents, going, these aren't all 468 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 5: the Epstein files. You know, there were flight logs, there 469 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 5: were names and victims' names, and we're going, where's the 470 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 5: rest of the stuff. That's what the FBI had turned 471 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 5: over to us. And so a source said, oh, all 472 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 5: this evidence is sitting in the Southern District of New York. 473 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 5: So based on that, I gave them the deadline Friday 474 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 5: at eight, a truckload of evidence arrive. It's now in 475 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 5: the possession of the FBI. Cash is going to get 476 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 5: me and himself really a detailed report as to why 477 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 5: all these documents and evidence had been withheld, and you know, 478 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: we're going to go through it, go through it as 479 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 5: fast as we can, but go through it very cautiously 480 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 5: to protect all the victims of Epstein, because there are 481 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: a lot of victims. 482 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 1: Okay, So now those are two different cuts. And now 483 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: on Friday, was it Sunday night, in the midst of 484 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:45,440 Speaker 1: all the other chaos going on, lots of news over 485 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: the weekend, over the holiday. They say, yeah, there's nothing 486 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: else here this story. And also they put up a video, 487 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 1: they say from outside of the hallway saying, hey, he 488 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: did commit suicide. Here is a video doesn't have the. 489 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: Nor I am you know, I wonder where you are 490 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 2: on this. We haven't talked about this before. The suicide thing. 491 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: I am willing to believe. I'm I can't you believe 492 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 2: that to be true? And I do think and I'm 493 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: very aware of the guy falling asleep and the cameras 494 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 2: and you know, it's an extreme coincidence situation. So don't 495 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: yell at me for this because I'm aware of the 496 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 2: that I can. I'm like, maybe this actually is the 497 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: only guy to ever commit suicide of the m's. I'm 498 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: like talking myself out of this as we're discussing it, 499 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 2: but that I could but that I could maybe find credible. 500 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: I mean, I talked to uh, I talked to I 501 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: remember a former Attorney General Barr, I believe about this 502 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: when they did the review and he said, look, it's 503 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 2: I thought it was very sketchy too, but this is 504 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 2: what happened. Okay, that was, But the Epstein wasn't running 505 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 2: a blackmail operation, and he was the only guy involved 506 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: with any of these He was the only guy we 507 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: are to believe other than the one royal right, the 508 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 2: English guy, Prince Andrew, the only guy who is alleged 509 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 2: to have been involved with any of these underage girls 510 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 2: as part of this trafficking slash blackmail scheme. I just 511 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 2: don't find that credible. I just don't find that credible. 512 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 2: I don't And I also sit here and say, this guy, 513 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 2: to your point, he's worth they found I think it 514 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 2: was six or seven hundred million dollars that this guy 515 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 2: had amassed. Where the where'd the money come from? This 516 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: is all wire transfers, this is all trackable. He didn't 517 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: make it trading the market. For him to make this 518 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 2: money trading the market play, he would have to be 519 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 2: the biggest financial genius in the history of the stock market. 520 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 2: It's just not possible. 521 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: There's always you can become a millionaire just by doing 522 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: smart things with your money. You might even be able 523 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: to come ten or fifteen millionaire. Right as a normal person. 524 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: You don't become hundreds of millions of dollars wealthy without 525 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: creating something, right, Like, there has to be some lynch 526 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: pin too. 527 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: He would have to be managing if you were managing, 528 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 2: you know, a multi billion dollar hedge fund, which would 529 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: have sec scrutiny and would have all kinds of regulatory 530 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 2: burden and would have investors and. 531 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: What do you know? That's right? 532 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: Okay, then then you know, maybe he's a guy who 533 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: is managing money, who's got the super sketch you know, 534 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: super criminal and awful uh private life. 535 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: But he just did this on his own quietly. There's 536 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: just no way. There's just no Everyone I know on 537 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 3: Wall Street will say this if you ask them. There's 538 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: no way. 539 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 2: This guy just made this money. So it's not a 540 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 2: blackmail operation, but we don't know where the money came from. 541 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 2: And also he's able to get the Honestly, let's let's 542 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,200 Speaker 2: just put it out there. The richest and most powerful 543 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 2: people on the planet, some of them, some of the 544 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 2: richest and most powerful people on the planet, are willing 545 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: to hang out with this guy and willing to go 546 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 2: to his like weird little island. 547 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I mean they're. 548 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 2: Asking a lot here that this was it was just him. 549 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 2: He was just doing his thing and there's nothing else involved. 550 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 2: I just I don't buy it. 551 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 6: I don't. 552 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 2: I don't accept that this is what happened. So the 553 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 2: DJ can say it, and maybe that's based on the 554 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: information they have. I do not accept this explanation. We'll 555 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 2: take some of your calls, by the way. 556 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: I do think that there has been a build up 557 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein as the ultimate boogeyman, and it is 558 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: also possible that they've played into this. I mean, they 559 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: had the influencers that they brought in, and they gave 560 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: them the little files with basically no information, and they 561 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: posed for photos. 562 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 3: I would they die? 563 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? 564 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 3: Why would they do that, Clay? If there was nothing? 565 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 2: Why was there like Epstein you know file release day 566 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: at the White House which we all saw, which was 567 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: not a good moment for this DJ. 568 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 3: What was that? Yeah? And I agree. 569 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: Can we get an explanation too if these questions can 570 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: be answered? And maybe they can and maybe you know, 571 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna say, I do I know Cash, 572 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: I know Dan. I have tremendous faith in those guys 573 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: and their integrity, and I'm not impugning either their integrity. 574 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: I think that they're doing everything that they can based 575 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 2: on what they have. Yes, I think a lot of 576 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: what they have is less than what was out there. 577 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: I think that there's been a cleanup operation that's been 578 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 2: going on for a very long time. But maybe there 579 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 2: are answers to the questions I put forward that will 580 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: be presented, But until someone can tell me definitively how 581 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: the money all came together, what was on the surveillance tapes, 582 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 2: and how this guy was able to get away with 583 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 2: what he got away with which no other person in 584 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 2: the history of the criminal justice system had been able 585 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 2: to I do not accept this explanation. 586 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls on this. Chip Roy 587 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: is going to join us at the top of the 588 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: third hour. He's congressman representing the area of Texas, which, unfortunately, 589 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,959 Speaker 1: you're probably headed towards one hundred or more people that 590 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: ended up dying in those floods. I think the official 591 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: death tally is now well over eighty if I'm not mistaken, 592 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,160 Speaker 1: and there's still a lot of people missing. So we 593 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: will talk about that with him. Get you the latest. 594 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: There a lot of you want to weigh in on this. 595 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 1: We'll take some of your calls in the meantime. Do 596 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: you want to preserve your family memories. 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Travis and Buck Sexton telling it like 616 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: it is. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or 617 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,360 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. 618 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: Welcome back in here to clay On buck lines are 619 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: all lit. Let's get to it right away. Appreciate you 620 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 2: being with us, everybody. Uh, let's say, Joeann in Kerrville, Texas. Joanne, 621 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: you are in the area where these terrible floods happen. 622 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: What can you tell us? 623 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 6: Hi? I can tell you several things about it. First 624 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 6: of all, one of the things that has been extremely 625 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 6: hard is the fact that this area has been in 626 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 6: a drought situation for a couple of years, and many 627 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 6: people in the area has been praying for rain. And 628 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 6: when we went to bed December on two ly to third, 629 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,760 Speaker 6: we were looking forward to attending a concert on the river, 630 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 6: and we were also expecting that that would go off fine, 631 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 6: that there would be wonderful fireworks. Unfortunately, that is the 632 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 6: night that were our prayers for rain were answered. 633 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: All right, So what did you when did you become aware? 634 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: You're in Kerville when you it's raining obviously hard, people 635 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: are sleeping. When did you become aware, Hey, this is 636 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: a major, major, awful situation. 637 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 6: The next morning, when I woke up so. 638 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,480 Speaker 1: You didn't even though the alerts might have been coming. 639 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: Like you just happened to be in an area that 640 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: did not flood, but you knew it was raining but 641 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: had no idea how bad it was. 642 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 6: That is partially true. Yes, I do live in an 643 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 6: area where some areas of my neighborhood were flooded. I 644 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 6: was not affected by it, as I had screener I lived. 645 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 6: I live about two and a half blocks from the river. 646 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 6: All of the fourth of July. Things were to take 647 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 6: place the next day. 648 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 2: Well, thank you think an early warning system would have 649 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 2: made a difference, or a different I should say, a 650 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 2: different early warning system. 651 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: No, I do not, all right, thank you, Jaaul. Fred 652 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: take an Ingram Texas here. Let's see what Fred, you 653 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: went through it? Do you agree with Joe Anne? Is 654 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: your experience similar to hers? Fred? 655 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: Somewhat? 656 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 6: So? 657 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,760 Speaker 4: When I woke up at three o'clock in the morning, 658 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 4: I lived as a crow flies maybe a half a 659 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 4: mile away from the Guadmoupe and Ingram, I got up 660 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 4: and it was raining and just moderate And at seven 661 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning I got a phone call, is 662 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: it really flooding that bad? And I walked out and 663 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,879 Speaker 4: looked at my rain gage and I will received three 664 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 4: and a half inches of rain. What the problem was 665 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 4: is that that side of that hurricane sat installed over 666 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,520 Speaker 4: the north and south fork of the Guadalupe, and it 667 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 4: dumped over twelve thirteen inches of rain from what we've 668 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 4: been told, and that's what happened. It just washed straight 669 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 4: down a stream and there was no time, no time 670 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 4: for anybody to do anything because there was a warning, 671 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 4: we're in a flood warning. But I was sitting outside 672 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 4: that night and there was no rain, no nothing. 673 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: Wow, not even thank you for the call. 674 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: I think you and I would agree on this, buck, 675 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: no matter who the president was, the number of people 676 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: that unfortunately died from this incident were going to happen. 677 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: I think trying to blame politics in any ways just 678 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 1: flat out untrue, unfair,