Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty and he
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. Yesterday we tried to decipher what Trump
Speaker 2: was saying Wednesday. I think when he talked about two weeks,
Speaker 2: Putin's got two weeks, I didn't know if that was
Speaker 2: like an ultimatum. I mean, in usual Trumpian fashion, was
Speaker 2: kind of vague on that, but a number of news
Speaker 2: organizations have pointed out since then he has said two
Speaker 2: weeks at least four different times in the last since
Speaker 2: he took office about Putin's got two weeks and then
Speaker 2: we'll know, as like a deadline. So I guess that
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean anything, although the rubber meets the road
Speaker 2: in that we are either going to back the sanctions
Speaker 2: in Europe and or add on to them like eighty
Speaker 2: two senators want to do, or and and continue to
Speaker 2: arm Ukraine and give them intelligence, or we're not, and
Speaker 2: that decision is going to be made at some point.
Speaker 1: Right right with perhaps you know, historical significance, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like serious historical significance significance, not like people throw.
Speaker 2: It around all the time. That term, the term this
Speaker 2: is history making a historical day because Katy Perry went
Speaker 2: up near space exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for instance, Katy Perry, Gail King and others been
Speaker 1: up in the air for a little bit.
Speaker 2: This is a historic day. Yeah, No, a real one.
Speaker 2: I'm said.
Speaker 1: So, a lot to squeeze in the last hour of
Speaker 1: the week. Can't wait to get started, Let's do it.
Speaker 1: It's the Friday tradition. If I look back at the
Speaker 1: week that was, it's cow clips of the week.
Speaker 2: But in this moment, this morning, my god, strato frappucino,
Speaker 2: which is the week. And I don't know what the
Speaker 2: hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time
Speaker 2: and something happened to this guy, and I don't like it.
Speaker 2: I don't think Pootin has changed.
Speaker 3: I don't know what the president's talking about negative rites.
Speaker 2: I only know of one really bad thing, World War three.
Speaker 2: I think this four is about to get a lot
Speaker 2: dirtier now. It looks as though the war in Gaza
Speaker 2: is raging on a level that we haven't seen present
Speaker 2: posting on truth social that he may take quote three
Speaker 2: billion dollars of grant money away from fairy, anti Semitic Harvard, the.
Speaker 4: Staggering setback for President Trump's aggressive trade agenda. The White
Speaker 4: House rebuking the court, saying it is not for unelected
Speaker 4: judges to decide how to properly address a national emergency.
Speaker 2: I think it both can be can be can be big,
Speaker 2: or it can be beautiful, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: it could be both. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee
Speaker 2: are ready in subpoenas.
Speaker 5: We want to ask him, who gave you the authority
Speaker 5: to use Joe Biden's signature.
Speaker 2: We never got somebody that said we should never have
Speaker 2: done this. I can't believe we did it. Yeah, there's
Speaker 2: gradations of honesty. Video of President McCool and his wife
Speaker 2: Frigie pushing his face is going virals. The gaugeous piece
Speaker 2: dis lose are staying, you loser, get dressed. We're going
Speaker 2: to kill kid. Cuddy Clarker called combstaelling her, but the
Speaker 2: rapper wasn't home at the time, and prosecutor say that
Speaker 2: John Wells proceeded to essentially torture him, demanding that he
Speaker 2: give up his Bigcoin password.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lay down, I'm not to get in
Speaker 3: the bed, I just want to call tell you that
Speaker 3: night mostly.
Speaker 6: During power can change the definition of the words we
Speaker 6: use to describe reality.
Speaker 2: Shut up, your word is a clar.
Speaker 3: C small A cla e C O A I R
Speaker 3: C I S S E M e U.
Speaker 6: That is correct.
Speaker 2: Stumping the joy out of life Armstrong and Getty. Yes,
Speaker 2: if you missed our segment stumping stomping the joy out
Speaker 2: of the spelling Bee, that was an hour one, you
Speaker 2: can find the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Speaker 1: To quote an American Idol contestant from many years ago.
Speaker 1: Actually it was the mother of a contestant where he
Speaker 1: from French?
Speaker 2: What are they giving.
Speaker 1: Clarissimoon? It's the English spelling b for Indian kids. What
Speaker 1: are you doing with French words?
Speaker 2: Well, because they all study fifteen hours a day all
Speaker 2: summer long. Rather than have a childhood. You have to get,
Speaker 2: you know, pretty deep into the weeds on words to
Speaker 2: finally get enough people to miss. Do you get a
Speaker 2: champion the word weeds? Waste of time? Anyway? Consult our one.
Speaker 2: So first, this a little self aggrandizement from Timothy Timothy Sandefer,
Speaker 2: our friend, tim the lawyer who we had on yesterday
Speaker 2: with an excellent segment, as always, about a number of things.
Speaker 2: Read the law he was responding to. So he tweeted
Speaker 2: out his segment on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Somebody
Speaker 2: had responded to him saying that they gave upon political
Speaker 2: radio years ago, and Tim responded with, I sympathize, but
Speaker 2: at risk of giving my friends Jack and Joe big heads.
Speaker 2: What makes their show special is that it's political without
Speaker 2: being angry and overbearing and just a bunch of echo
Speaker 2: chamber slogan airing bs to a chet responded the same person,
Speaker 2: fully agree it was more the overall news cycle becoming absurd,
Speaker 2: But Jack and Joe are absolutely the best, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad they're still out there. So, oh, thanks, it's very
Speaker 2: kind of you. Thank you made me feel like I'm
Speaker 2: not completely wasting my time getting up, getting dressed and
Speaker 2: coming to work as I often feel.
Speaker 1: And to reassure Tim, I think we are both so
Speaker 1: constantly and acutely aware of our failures that.
Speaker 2: All right, the big head thing is just not danger
Speaker 2: not worried about that happening.
Speaker 1: I can hardly take in my creative output because all
Speaker 1: I can see are the flaw. So don't worry about
Speaker 1: that that overstates it, that overstates it. But I'm very
Speaker 1: aware of them.
Speaker 2: I know this for a fact. Psychologically, people tend to
Speaker 2: be one of two directions, and then it's a it's
Speaker 2: a continuum. So you might be like, way out there.
Speaker 2: I am way out there on one of them, I think.
Speaker 2: But you tend to be either a person that thinks
Speaker 2: everything that happens in your life is your fault, or
Speaker 2: a person that thinks nothing in you that happens in
Speaker 2: your life is your fault at somebody else's fault or circumstances.
Speaker 2: And then you're somewhere in between on that continuum. And
Speaker 2: I lean pretty far toward everything that happens is my fault.
Speaker 2: And I hadn't considered this until I came across this premise.
Speaker 2: Every relationship that's ever failed in my life, I have
Speaker 2: only ever looked at or thought about the things that
Speaker 2: I did that caused it to go bad, as if
Speaker 2: they had no role whatsoever, or it couldn't possibly be
Speaker 2: something they did, or they have any flaws. I've never
Speaker 2: even considered the other side. It's always been me, and
Speaker 2: just so I lean way toward that for some reason, huh.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why. Yeah.
Speaker 1: My daughter, my youngest, she had a college professor who
Speaker 1: used to like to hit them with pissy thoughts right
Speaker 1: before they started exams.
Speaker 2: I have no idea why. It was just his thing.
Speaker 1: And remember, and he'd lay something on him And at
Speaker 1: one point what he laid on them was, remember the
Speaker 1: only commonality and all of your failed relationships is you?
Speaker 2: Anyway? That started so where I look at everything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And because Delaney really liked this teacher, she she
Speaker 1: connected with him for a coffee or something down the
Speaker 1: road and said, boy, that really stuck with me.
Speaker 2: And he said, I said that that's a terrible thing
Speaker 2: to say. I really said that. Wow, that's funny.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Some of a friend of mine hit me with that
Speaker 2: the other day because there was a point where all
Speaker 2: three cars that I own had a dent in them,
Speaker 2: which is incredibly low rent. I mean said, happened to
Speaker 2: stupid people keep happening to me. And they said, what
Speaker 2: is the common factor one, young Michael, just take it
Speaker 2: from me. Once you start blaming others, Jack, you'll feel
Speaker 2: very comfortable. It makes it easier and easier. Yeah. Interesting,
Speaker 2: speaking of uh pithy thoughts. I was on the shower
Speaker 2: thoughts Reddit thread yesterday and grabbed just a couple because
Speaker 2: most of them sucked.
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've run out of good shower thoughts,
Speaker 1: but we did this as a feature on the show
Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, fun these are they start
Speaker 1: to suck? Yes, yeah, these are.
Speaker 2: I think one of them is funny, but maybe but
Speaker 2: just kind of interesting. I didn't know this where uh,
Speaker 2: every this has been true of May, and May is
Speaker 2: almost over because we so you missed out. But every
Speaker 2: day for the next ten days was going to be same,
Speaker 2: the same backwards or forwards. And this was true during
Speaker 2: five twenty twenty five through five twenty nine twenty five.
Speaker 2: So it all ended yesterday. The fun ended yesterday. You
Speaker 2: missed it while it was true, But so forward or
Speaker 2: backwards five two oh two five, or read it backwards
Speaker 2: five to oh two five, and then the same way
Speaker 2: for five two one two five five two one two five, Sassin,
Speaker 2: isn't that fun? And you missed out on it? It ended?
Speaker 1: Damn it.
Speaker 2: When people yearn for a simpler, worry free time, they
Speaker 2: don't yearn for an actually simpler time, but for a
Speaker 2: time when they were kids and their parents did the
Speaker 2: worrying for them. That is often true of you know why,
Speaker 2: it was a simpler time because I didn't have to
Speaker 2: worry about the bills or anything else interest rates. I
Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about any of that stuff. Ugh, yes, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a sigh of deep on WII.
Speaker 1: Well, I was just thinking back to the period of
Speaker 1: my life when that truth hit the most powerfully.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very challenging. And then this one. I definitely
Speaker 2: not care free. No, I thought this was really a
Speaker 2: good one and very true. If you're walking around thinking
Speaker 2: with Israel, Hamas and Ukraine and you know, China on
Speaker 2: the rise or whatever it is, all that stuff that
Speaker 2: we talk about. Whooping cough what oh, still getting over it.
Speaker 2: I wonder if I'll have this for the rest of
Speaker 2: my life. No, no, you will. I won't.
Speaker 1: And we've got a friend with the long COVID Holy cow.
Speaker 1: He's correspondent with a couple of doctors who've been recommended
Speaker 1: by friends who are connected to medicine, and they've all said, look,
Speaker 1: all of my patients have gotten better, but sometimes it
Speaker 1: takes a couple of years.
Speaker 2: That's interesting. Oof. The world isn't falling apart, it's merely
Speaker 2: exiting from the odd most peaceful era of human history
Speaker 2: and returning to long term normalcy. That is very much true,
Speaker 2: returning to the mean. It is returning to what it
Speaker 2: has been throughout world history. We had a lucky period here,
Speaker 2: partially because of the United States was so dominant that
Speaker 2: it could keep world order where that might be going away,
Speaker 2: and then it's just back to, you know, the way
Speaker 2: the world always was, which doesn't make it, which isn't
Speaker 2: comforting as the bombs rained down or whatever happens. But yeah,
Speaker 2: convincing people who have grown up in liberty and affluence
Speaker 2: that this is incredibly delicate and we need to protect
Speaker 2: it or it's going to go away, it's very difficult
Speaker 2: to convince a lot of people of that truth. It's
Speaker 2: also apparently almost impossible to convince people of some we
Speaker 2: have it great other countries or people would will be
Speaker 2: happily take this from us if we don't stop them. Yes,
Speaker 2: that has always been true, right, they don't care, you
Speaker 2: know that whole I built this house on the land
Speaker 2: once owned by these so and so Indians that can
Speaker 2: come back again very easily, and somebody made someday, I
Speaker 2: built this house on the land that once was California,
Speaker 2: but now as a Chinese province or whatever, like they
Speaker 2: would care anyway. We got more on the waistair.
Speaker 5: It was December twenty eighth, twenty eight year old's Cameron McDougall,
Speaker 5: a Canadian citizen, allegedly assaulted someone on a Coopa Airlines
Speaker 5: flight from Panama City, Panama, to Toronto. Authorities say he
Speaker 5: was taken off that flight, but not arrested and allowed
Speaker 5: to book on another airline.
Speaker 2: He was back at Miami International Airport the next day.
Speaker 5: He passes through security and hides behind a wall before
Speaker 5: he's seen punching a man walking by. Then he storms
Speaker 5: back to the TSA checkpoint, where security cameras catch him
Speaker 5: throwing several punches at TSA officers until he's knocked down
Speaker 5: over a luggage cart and pinned.
Speaker 2: Down until law enforcement arrives.
Speaker 5: McDougall has pleaded guilty in federal court to assaulting TSA officers.
Speaker 2: Oh, the end of the story is the important part.
Speaker 2: He like one in December, beat up passengers and air
Speaker 2: waitresses on a plane, and he didn't go to jail.
Speaker 2: He's still out. Then he attacks people yesterday. It's a
Speaker 2: yet another example of somebody showing you who they are
Speaker 2: and we think it's a one off or let's give
Speaker 2: them a second chance or whatever that happens.
Speaker 1: Just these bizarre utopian notions of justice right are so popular.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so obviously freaking nut job should have been in
Speaker 2: jail before. Yeah, don't we need more jail.
Speaker 1: It's not fere So I'd like to congratulate Florida Man,
Speaker 1: who after you know, a bit of a down period.
Speaker 1: I mean, Florida Man really led America in aberrant behavior for.
Speaker 2: A long time.
Speaker 1: But in recent days California junkie or Louisiana inmate has really.
Speaker 2: Kind of seized the mantle. But here's a good comeback attempt.
Speaker 1: Here's a Florida man way whacked out on mes Okay again,
Speaker 1: going back to the things that made Florida Man great mess,
Speaker 1: forty two year old Timothy Schultz dance with the drug
Speaker 1: that brung you exactly. He first came to the attention
Speaker 1: of folks in his part of Florida because he was
Speaker 1: swimming across a lake. I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: much about Florida or the Deep South in general, Airs
Speaker 1: is saying, if you want to know, if there's a
Speaker 1: gator in the lake. Stick your finger in it. Bring
Speaker 1: your finger out if your finger is wet. There's a
Speaker 1: gator in it. So he's swimming across a lake and
Speaker 1: the neighbors are like, hey, dude, there's a gater next
Speaker 1: to you. So they call the authorities. The authorities show up.
Speaker 1: This guy's swimming across. He gets out of the lake.
Speaker 1: His arm has obviously been chewed up by an allegation. Oooh,
Speaker 1: that of very little interest to Florida man, who hardly
Speaker 1: even noticed.
Speaker 2: He's so messed out.
Speaker 1: And he arms himself for some reason with some glipping
Speaker 1: shears that somebody was using in one of the yards
Speaker 1: by the lake. And oh, one of the bystanders throw
Speaker 1: him a life preserver. He ignored that.
Speaker 2: He emerges with his gator chewed arm.
Speaker 1: He grabs a pair of garden shears, then tried to
Speaker 1: break into a vehicle by throwing a brick. According to
Speaker 1: the sheriff, when deputies arrived, they say they jumped out
Speaker 1: of the vehicle saw mister Charltz walking between holmes with
Speaker 1: a set of shears. Then he charged at the deputy
Speaker 1: and attempted to trim them. Oh, they tried to de
Speaker 1: escalate and tased him twice, but he continued to be aggressive,
Speaker 1: all mefed up and everything. Then he jumped in the
Speaker 1: passenger seat of a running patrol vehicle and tried to
Speaker 1: grab the shotgun out of it. Oh wow, at which point,
Speaker 1: unfortunately Jack Florida man met his end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta shoot him at that point. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: By gives you an idea how difficult it is for
Speaker 2: cops dealing with or anybody dealing with a with a
Speaker 2: meft up person. If the gator chewed arm and being
Speaker 2: tased twice doesn't slow him down, that's a remember that
Speaker 2: if you ever get in a fight or might get
Speaker 2: in a fight with somebody who's on math, you ain't
Speaker 2: You ain't got a chance.
Speaker 1: Coming up next segment, absolutely brilliant essay why Americans don't
Speaker 1: Undersland understand Vladimir Putin?
Speaker 2: Really good cool. I want to hear that myself, armstrong
Speaker 2: and getty. I pay a tremendous amount of attention to
Speaker 2: although you Ukraine Russia War. I check in on the Telegraph,
Speaker 2: the London newspaper, their daily Ukraine podcast at least part
Speaker 2: of it every single day for an update, mostly on
Speaker 2: the diplomacy stuff. They also do a great update on
Speaker 2: the military part. If you care about that, it's a
Speaker 2: Russia's losing fifteen hundred men a day killed or wounded,
Speaker 2: but off the battlefield fifteen hundred a day. That's a
Speaker 2: stunning number.
Speaker 1: So on that topic, I'm gonna read part of an
Speaker 1: essay I've come across by Constantine Kissing. You know Constantine
Speaker 1: he is. He's most often described as a comedian. He
Speaker 1: does commentary. He's a commentator, he's a podcast host. He's
Speaker 1: a thinker and a writer. He is a brit he
Speaker 1: is of Russian extraction. I think he may have emigrated
Speaker 1: as a child, but he's absolutely a first generation britt
Speaker 1: who's also an American of file, as you'll hear. But
Speaker 1: he goes into how prompted by the wave of Missilan
Speaker 1: drown attacks on the Ukrainian towns, Trump said what he said.
Speaker 1: I've always had a good relationship with Putin, but something's
Speaker 1: happened to him. He's gone absolutely crazy, and the other
Speaker 1: things he said. So that's what Putin's writing about. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: not Putin Keisen Kissing. That's what he's writing about. Why
Speaker 1: Americans don't understand Vladimir Putin. That's an interesting theory. Before
Speaker 1: we examined it in detail, it's worth pointing out that
Speaker 1: numerous American presidents have attempted to believe Putin could be
Speaker 1: reasoned with, and then he goes through the George W.
Speaker 1: Bush looked into his eyes, saw soul, Bill Clinton, o Ama.
Speaker 1: It's just the reset, all of it. US presidents prefer,
Speaker 1: at least pretend to believe because it pretends them from
Speaker 1: having to face the reality of who Putin has always
Speaker 1: been and what that means for America in the West.
Speaker 1: But far more importantly, this belief is also a product
Speaker 1: of the American psyche, which makes even the most cynical
Speaker 1: US politicians susceptible to manipulation by those who operate within
Speaker 1: a different moral framework. You'll not find a bigger fan
Speaker 1: of the United States than me, he writes. Spending time
Speaker 1: in the US is always a joy. One cannot help
Speaker 1: but be inspired by the culture of openness, cooperation, and positivity.
Speaker 1: The story of America is that anything is possible, especially
Speaker 1: when good people get together to do business, make money,
Speaker 1: and thrive. While most Americans take these cultural traits as given,
Speaker 1: the reality is that they are rare and are in
Speaker 1: no small part the foundation of America's success. Americans are
Speaker 1: widely regarded around the world as extremely friendly, welcoming, proactive,
Speaker 1: and constructive. But every coin has two sides. The trade
Speaker 1: off of this business focused, open minded, good faith, let's
Speaker 1: make money approach is a consistent failure to contend with
Speaker 1: the reality that not all cultures and not all people
Speaker 1: are like this an extremely important point in my education
Speaker 1: learning this stuff, not just my formal education, but education
Speaker 1: in general. I think my Western friends often say that
Speaker 1: I come across as intense, unsmiling, and even angry in
Speaker 1: interviews by American standards. They're certainly right, which is why
Speaker 1: they're always surprised when I tell them the story of
Speaker 1: showing a Russian family member a school photo of mine.
Speaker 2: Why have you all got that idiotic American smile? She asked. Wow.
Speaker 1: The open, welcoming and positive attitude that is the default
Speaker 1: setting in America is widely regarded in many parts of
Speaker 1: the world as evidence of gullibility, un seriousness, and naivete.
Speaker 1: It is seen, sometimes justifiably, as an attitude that leaves
Speaker 1: people vulnerable to deception, not because Americans are stupid, but
Speaker 1: because their desire to believe in the good of all
Speaker 1: makes it harder for them to recognize when others are
Speaker 1: not in fact good. And to fully grasp the cultural
Speaker 1: chasm between Russia and America, you need to understand the
Speaker 1: history of the two countries. I will summarize this, though
Speaker 1: it is fabulously written. The US is a nation of
Speaker 1: people who conquered a continent. It is filled with the
Speaker 1: descendants of those who left their homelands to seek a
Speaker 1: better life on the other side of the world. Goes
Speaker 1: through the hardships, the triumphs, the centuries of newcomers, the
Speaker 1: work hard, go get it mentality, a high trust, collaborative society.
Speaker 1: We have no comparable genetic memory of being invaded by
Speaker 1: powerful enemies. The Great Depression was merely a precursor to
Speaker 1: the country's explosion into an economic and manufacturing superpower.
Speaker 2: Pearl Harbor was followed.
Speaker 1: By overwhelming victory in World War Two and then the
Speaker 1: period of American dominance.
Speaker 2: That's what's formed us as a people.
Speaker 1: Anything is possible, problems or challenges to be solved, and
Speaker 1: the future is bright now. Kissing Rights consider the history
Speaker 1: of Russia. One of the founding experiences of the Russian
Speaker 1: nation is being occupied by the Mongols, the descendants of
Speaker 1: Jengis Khan, wiped out anyone who resisted and subjugated everyone else.
Speaker 1: Those are horrors equivalent to your country being invaded by
Speaker 1: Isis or Kyl Drago from the Game of Thrones. They butcher, rape,
Speaker 1: and torture their way through every major city and force
Speaker 1: everyone else to bend the knee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have that experience. I think about that
Speaker 2: a lot, even without getting into Genghis Khan, just like
Speaker 2: we've never had been invaded by Nazis like France, or
Speaker 2: been bombed like England, or lots of different places that
Speaker 2: have you know, been attacked like that.
Speaker 1: We have not. In Russia, this period is called the
Speaker 1: tet Mongol yoke, a yoke being a device joined like
Speaker 1: oxen to pull a load. That period of time lasted
Speaker 1: around two hundred and forty years, as long as the
Speaker 1: entire history of the US. To this day, the Russian
Speaker 1: language contains many Mongolian words, especially those related to taxation, weaponry,
Speaker 1: and war. Another formative period in Russian history is called
Speaker 1: the Smuta or times of Trouble. Ivan the Terrible, infamous
Speaker 1: for killing his only viable air and a fit of
Speaker 1: rage passed down his crown to a feeble and incapable son.
Speaker 1: When that son, Feodor, died without an air, Russia was
Speaker 1: thrust into fifteen years of chaos, in which a succession
Speaker 1: of usurpers and false claimant battled over the throne, combined
Speaker 1: with famine, disease in a series of foreign invasions, a
Speaker 1: series of foreign invasions, the Times of Troubles saw at
Speaker 1: least a third of Russia's population wiped out in fifteen years.
Speaker 1: One of the key conclusions Russians drew from this is that,
Speaker 1: whatever else he is, a ruler must be strong to
Speaker 1: maintain order. A weak ruler leads to chaos, and chaos
Speaker 1: is to be avoided at any cost, how poorly this
Speaker 1: is understood in the West. Is ironically and perfectly encapsulated
Speaker 1: in the different names Russians and English speakers have for
Speaker 1: Ivan the terrible. The word terrible is a telling mistrans
Speaker 1: his moniker in Russian is much more accurately translated as fearsome.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Surprise. I haven't come across that before all the
Speaker 2: Russia stuff I read. But yeah, that's yeah. If you
Speaker 2: have chaos and gangs running the street and It's like
Speaker 2: Haiti or Russia during that period. You'd be happier in
Speaker 2: hell to have a dictator come along if it restored order.
Speaker 2: So at least you could, like, you know, work your
Speaker 2: job and have your kids go to school. Yeah, we
Speaker 2: have through the years.
Speaker 1: On this show discussed at length the concept of UH
Speaker 1: liberty or compassion versus order, and how order without compassion
Speaker 1: is fascism and brutality, and compassion without order is chaos
Speaker 1: and ugliness. And so Russians culturally are extremely fond of order.
Speaker 1: I mean, can you imagine being slaughtered like the Mongols
Speaker 1: did and then still the same people in same country
Speaker 1: sort of, I mean, obviously not the same governmental structure,
Speaker 1: but the same cultural people being slaughtered again, two thirds
Speaker 1: of them because a week leadership and then kissing gets
Speaker 1: into In the centuries since that crap happened, Russia's repeatedly
Speaker 1: been invaded by its western neighbors, including the Swedes, Lithuanians, Poles, Finns,
Speaker 1: and famously Napoleon Bonaparte and then Adolf Hitler. While these
Speaker 1: attacks were ultimately repelled, they left deep scars in the
Speaker 1: Russian psyche. There's little triumphalism about defeating Napoleon, whose evasion
Speaker 1: saw invasion, saw Moscow burn to the ground.
Speaker 2: Well, victory war in peace if you want to know
Speaker 2: what that was like. Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And while victory in the Great Patriotic War, the Russian
Speaker 1: name for WW two, as much celebrated came around the
Speaker 1: it came at the cost of around twenty million lives.
Speaker 1: By contrast, we the United States lost Joe just over
Speaker 1: four hundred thousand people in the same conflict, twenty million
Speaker 1: to four hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: And then he goes into the revolutions on civil wars
Speaker 2: and not on our turf, with our homes going along
Speaker 2: with the lives of being lost and everything right right then,
Speaker 2: Compare also the revolutions in civil wars which took place
Speaker 2: in the two countries. Russian Revolution, which sparked the Russian
Speaker 2: Civil War, resulted in the installation of a tyrannical, murderous
Speaker 2: communist regime which exterminated its enemies, expropriated private property, and
Speaker 2: instituted decades long reign of terror, ending in economic collapse
Speaker 2: in Cold War defeat in nineteen ninety one.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the American Revolution is a story of a successful
Speaker 1: fight for independence, while the American Civil War, although bloody
Speaker 1: and painful, is seen as the price of progress on
Speaker 1: the path to ultimate unification. And I wish we had
Speaker 1: more time for this, but you get the idea. Let
Speaker 1: me skip to his concluding paragraph. In his long telegram,
Speaker 1: George Keen and the great American diplomat, famously wrote that
Speaker 1: Russia was quote impervious to logic of reason and is
Speaker 1: highly sensitive to logic of force. This is why I
Speaker 1: had high and so far false, false hopes for Trump's
Speaker 1: ability to end the war. I assumed you would understand
Speaker 1: the obvious that bringing Putin to the negotiating.
Speaker 2: Table would require a carrot and a stick.
Speaker 1: So far dangling only the carrot of ending the killing
Speaker 1: and sending a starry eyed, historically and geographically illiterate lawyer
Speaker 1: to be bamboozled for hours in the Kremlin has predictably
Speaker 1: produced nothing. That's Trump's friend, what's his name? Who's in
Speaker 1: charge of the Russia negotiations and the Middle East? It's
Speaker 1: complete waste of time. By the way, the only way
Speaker 1: Trump will get serious negotiations going is to threaten Putin
Speaker 1: with ramping up not only sanctions but high grade, extensive
Speaker 1: military aid to Ukraine. As long as that option is
Speaker 1: not on the table, Putin will keep calling America's bluff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump will. Putin will stop when he's forced to
Speaker 2: the end. Yeah yeah, you know. A good summary of
Speaker 2: that long piece would be wake up or grow up?
Speaker 5: Grow up.
Speaker 1: America's great failing is that we everybody thinks like us,
Speaker 1: over and over and over again.
Speaker 2: That was George Bush's George W. Bush is great failing.
Speaker 2: We'll just give him democracy and tell them how great
Speaker 2: it is. Then they will do it. Yeah, we we
Speaker 2: We hate the idea of US culture where the strong
Speaker 2: can just take from the week whenever they want. There
Speaker 2: are a lot of cultures that think that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Get what's coming to the only conceivable choice, right like
Speaker 1: like anything else is an interesting thought experiment if maybe
Speaker 1: you're stoned or something. But let's be realistic. The strong
Speaker 1: do what they will. The week do what they must.
Speaker 2: Okay, we had to leave time for this, so Hanson,
Speaker 2: our executive producer, crafted an AI tune about Joe earlier
Speaker 2: in the show. We'll play a little of that for
Speaker 2: you to smash hit. And now he's crafted a song
Speaker 2: about me which I have not heard of him and
Speaker 2: not looking forward to that is coming up next. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, I just got my final thought from a
Speaker 2: CBS news headline. I saw, okay, that'll be my final thought.
Speaker 2: So earlier we were talking AI and got on the
Speaker 2: topic of like songwriting for one thing, because I I
Speaker 2: asked chat GPT a question about a song I was
Speaker 2: writing last night, which makes me feel horrible. I'll never
Speaker 2: do that again in my life. And I did not
Speaker 2: use the recommendation, but like, what is the point AnyWho?
Speaker 2: Executive producer Hansen decided to craft a few songs through
Speaker 2: a I and crafted one about Joe that goes something
Speaker 2: like this and you just frank this up a little bit,
Speaker 2: and this is my favorite kind of music. He gets
Speaker 2: up every morning. Tell me why not. Everybody's dedicated his
Speaker 2: home magistanis.
Speaker 3: That's right, everyone to hear him last.
Speaker 2: That's all last.
Speaker 7: He's a master of metaphor and the wordsmith supreme.
Speaker 2: But don't ask.
Speaker 1: Him to work to hall.
Speaker 2: It's right, all of leisure. He's the king. There I go,
Speaker 2: I'm a chorus. Come on, Joey.
Speaker 6: Joke.
Speaker 2: Oh that's great, it's a fault man joke, Getty joke
Speaker 2: that could have been on he haw ah, beautiful. So
Speaker 2: that was Joe's song, which we heard earlier. I've not
Speaker 2: heard anything we need to know about this answer. I
Speaker 2: went with a more contemporary feel, okay, but I think
Speaker 2: the music is something that you'll dig. All right.
Speaker 1: He's a true all America, a patriot, father, gentlemen.
Speaker 2: He's weary.
Speaker 7: He did just start this shoes and never finding him
Speaker 7: drinking booze.
Speaker 2: A family man, a hard working man. He grew up
Speaker 2: in a heart land. He's no food.
Speaker 7: He won't be fighting old bad boom.
Speaker 1: The whooping cough, My get o, my gidd.
Speaker 3: Unless he stops eating that greasy food.
Speaker 7: Jack control whooping cough, My get o, my get unless
Speaker 7: he stops eating that greasy food. Jack control whooping cough,
Speaker 7: My gett.
Speaker 2: Who because he stops doing that before the purser. But
Speaker 2: know it's better than the fighting. He unless he stopped
Speaker 2: seating that greasy food. Jack cowstrat lo.
Speaker 6: There you go.
Speaker 2: That is a very modern country song. Whooping cough might
Speaker 2: get him wow handsome. One of the points being that, like,
Speaker 2: how long did that whole thing take you once you
Speaker 2: wrote the lyrics, which you could have had AI write
Speaker 2: the lyrics, but once you wrote the lyrics. How long
Speaker 2: did it take that cross? It was seconds and it
Speaker 2: gave me two versions. There's another version, but we liked
Speaker 2: that one better. That is just amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the irony, as we were chatting about earlier,
Speaker 1: So AI is going to free us up from having
Speaker 1: the works that we can write songs or whatever? What
Speaker 1: the hell's the point? The AI is doing that too, right,
Speaker 1: which they'll free us up to what grow tomatoes?
Speaker 2: All right? I was compelled by an emotional situation to
Speaker 2: want to write a song yesterday, and then what I'm
Speaker 2: gonna have chat GBT write it. The whole artistics expression
Speaker 2: thing is generally too I mean, what are you doing
Speaker 2: letting it out?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, chat GBT? Could you ruminate on my life
Speaker 2: for a while while I scroll through Twitter?
Speaker 1: And I've talked to people a lot through the years
Speaker 1: about you know why I bother writing and producing songs
Speaker 1: that you know people will hear. It's because the process
Speaker 1: is so satisfying. You start with silence and you end
Speaker 1: up with a complete song and arrangement and everything and
Speaker 1: sounds good at least in my ears.
Speaker 2: And if that was just handed to you, well, then
Speaker 2: what are we doing here?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Or substitute writing same sort of thing. If chat g BT,
Speaker 2: can you know, fix your poem in a way that
Speaker 2: you can't, well, then what is the point?
Speaker 1: Look what I wrote kind of sort of but I didn't. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about this. Yeah, well, so
Speaker 1: does that that one book I read which was deep
Speaker 1: in Thorny.
Speaker 2: What was the name of that book I had for
Speaker 2: you earlier? Deep Utopia by Nick Bostrom. I mean, if
Speaker 2: you're really into this topic, he goes really deep on
Speaker 2: the meaning of mankind and how this could possibly disrupt
Speaker 2: it and how rough it's going to be if we
Speaker 2: don't need to work. He's assuming the sort of worst
Speaker 2: case scenario, although plenty of people think it's best case scenario,
Speaker 2: which I think you're nuts. The people out there who
Speaker 2: think best case scenario is AI can produce better than
Speaker 2: we ever could, will provide enough GDP and we can
Speaker 2: all stay home and you know, play the guitar and
Speaker 2: write poems and grow tomatoes. Our only purpose will be pleasure.
Speaker 2: That'll right, right right, There's no chance that works out.
Speaker 2: Final thought Great songs and gee oh yeah rocket, here's
Speaker 2: your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. So flascid.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
Speaker 1: crew draft things up for the week.
Speaker 2: There is our technical director, Michaelangelo. Michael final tallet.
Speaker 5: Well, I'm on my way to a college graduation and
Speaker 5: I'm going to be sitting on bleachers for several hours,
Speaker 5: so hide outside.
Speaker 2: It's one hundred and two of that.
Speaker 7: I know.
Speaker 2: We're going to see how this goes. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: people will literally be passing out.
Speaker 1: Hi Kramba, Wow, Katie Green is off this. He can't
Speaker 1: wait till she's back on Monday. Jack.
Speaker 2: Final thought for we speaking of graduation is the thing
Speaker 2: that made me so angry is I just saw the
Speaker 2: CBS headline about how the Harvard president, speaking to the
Speaker 2: Harvard graduating class yesterday, got a one minute standing ovation
Speaker 2: from the class for his blasting the Trump administration. No
Speaker 2: mention in the CBS news headline that Harvard finished last
Speaker 2: this previous year in terms of academic freedom by the
Speaker 2: people who ranked that sort of thing and their own
Speaker 2: report about themselves showed them to be discriminatory and antisemitic.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, that didn't Well, they didn't have time to
Speaker 2: mention that in the news. Year you're in one minute
Speaker 2: standing ovation. What are you talking about? My final thought.
Speaker 2: To claim that a normally reasonable, rational and pragmatic Putin
Speaker 2: with whom we can do business has suddenly become a
Speaker 2: different person and gone crazy is insane in his self.
Speaker 2: Putin is what he is and has always been. Armstrong
Speaker 2: and getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So
Speaker 2: many people, thanks so a little time. Good Armstrong you
Speaker 2: Getty dot com. Great pleasures, await you. God bless America.
Speaker 5: He's no food, he.
Speaker 7: Won't be fighting old bad boom.
Speaker 2: The whooping calls my gettle, my giddle. Let's he stop
Speaker 2: seating that greasy food jack.
Speaker 7: Constro whoop and call my gettle, my giddle. Let's he
Speaker 7: stop seating that greasy food check contro op and call
Speaker 7: my ghettle my gettle.
Speaker 2: Less he stop seating that greasy food jack.
Speaker 7: Constro whooping, called my gettle, my get unless he stop
Speaker 7: seating that greasy food jack.
Speaker 2: On strone and done,