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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty and he

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<v Speaker 2>Armstrong and Yetty. Yesterday we tried to decipher what Trump

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<v Speaker 2>was saying Wednesday. I think when he talked about two weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>Putin's got two weeks, I didn't know if that was

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<v Speaker 2>like an ultimatum. I mean, in usual Trumpian fashion, was

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<v Speaker 2>kind of vague on that, but a number of news

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<v Speaker 2>organizations have pointed out since then he has said two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks at least four different times in the last since

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<v Speaker 2>he took office about Putin's got two weeks and then

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<v Speaker 2>we'll know, as like a deadline. So I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't necessarily mean anything, although the rubber meets the road

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<v Speaker 2>in that we are either going to back the sanctions

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<v Speaker 2>in Europe and or add on to them like eighty

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<v Speaker 2>two senators want to do, or and and continue to

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<v Speaker 2>arm Ukraine and give them intelligence, or we're not, and

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<v Speaker 2>that decision is going to be made at some point.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right with perhaps you know, historical significance, Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like serious historical significance significance, not like people throw.

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<v Speaker 2>It around all the time. That term, the term this

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<v Speaker 2>is history making a historical day because Katy Perry went

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<v Speaker 2>up near space exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for instance, Katy Perry, Gail King and others been

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<v Speaker 1>up in the air for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a historic day. Yeah, No, a real one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm said.

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<v Speaker 1>So, a lot to squeeze in the last hour of

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<v Speaker 1>the week. Can't wait to get started, Let's do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Friday tradition. If I look back at the

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<v Speaker 1>week that was, it's cow clips of the week.

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<v Speaker 2>But in this moment, this morning, my god, strato frappucino,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the week. And I don't know what the

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<v Speaker 2>hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time

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<v Speaker 2>and something happened to this guy, and I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think Pootin has changed.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what the president's talking about negative rites.

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<v Speaker 2>I only know of one really bad thing, World War three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this four is about to get a lot

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<v Speaker 2>dirtier now. It looks as though the war in Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>is raging on a level that we haven't seen present

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<v Speaker 2>posting on truth social that he may take quote three

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<v Speaker 2>billion dollars of grant money away from fairy, anti Semitic Harvard, the.

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<v Speaker 4>Staggering setback for President Trump's aggressive trade agenda. The White

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<v Speaker 4>House rebuking the court, saying it is not for unelected

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<v Speaker 4>judges to decide how to properly address a national emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it both can be can be can be big,

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<v Speaker 2>or it can be beautiful, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it could be both. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee

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<v Speaker 2>are ready in subpoenas.

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<v Speaker 5>We want to ask him, who gave you the authority

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<v Speaker 5>to use Joe Biden's signature.

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<v Speaker 2>We never got somebody that said we should never have

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<v Speaker 2>done this. I can't believe we did it. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 2>gradations of honesty. Video of President McCool and his wife

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<v Speaker 2>Frigie pushing his face is going virals. The gaugeous piece

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<v Speaker 2>dis lose are staying, you loser, get dressed. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill kid. Cuddy Clarker called combstaelling her, but the

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<v Speaker 2>rapper wasn't home at the time, and prosecutor say that

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<v Speaker 2>John Wells proceeded to essentially torture him, demanding that he

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<v Speaker 2>give up his Bigcoin password.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna lay down, I'm not to get in

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<v Speaker 3>the bed, I just want to call tell you that

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<v Speaker 3>night mostly.

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<v Speaker 6>During power can change the definition of the words we

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<v Speaker 6>use to describe reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Shut up, your word is a clar.

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<v Speaker 3>C small A cla e C O A I R

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<v Speaker 3>C I S S E M e U.

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<v Speaker 6>That is correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Stumping the joy out of life Armstrong and Getty. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>if you missed our segment stumping stomping the joy out

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<v Speaker 2>of the spelling Bee, that was an hour one, you

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<v Speaker 2>can find the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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<v Speaker 1>To quote an American Idol contestant from many years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it was the mother of a contestant where he

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<v Speaker 1>from French?

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<v Speaker 2>What are they giving.

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<v Speaker 1>Clarissimoon? It's the English spelling b for Indian kids. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing with French words?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, because they all study fifteen hours a day all

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<v Speaker 2>summer long. Rather than have a childhood. You have to get,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pretty deep into the weeds on words to

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<v Speaker 2>finally get enough people to miss. Do you get a

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<v Speaker 2>champion the word weeds? Waste of time? Anyway? Consult our one.

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<v Speaker 2>So first, this a little self aggrandizement from Timothy Timothy Sandefer,

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<v Speaker 2>our friend, tim the lawyer who we had on yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>with an excellent segment, as always, about a number of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Read the law he was responding to. So he tweeted

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<v Speaker 2>out his segment on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>had responded to him saying that they gave upon political

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<v Speaker 2>radio years ago, and Tim responded with, I sympathize, but

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<v Speaker 2>at risk of giving my friends Jack and Joe big heads.

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<v Speaker 2>What makes their show special is that it's political without

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<v Speaker 2>being angry and overbearing and just a bunch of echo

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<v Speaker 2>chamber slogan airing bs to a chet responded the same person,

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<v Speaker 2>fully agree it was more the overall news cycle becoming absurd,

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<v Speaker 2>But Jack and Joe are absolutely the best, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad they're still out there. So, oh, thanks, it's very

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<v Speaker 2>kind of you. Thank you made me feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not completely wasting my time getting up, getting dressed and

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<v Speaker 2>coming to work as I often feel.

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<v Speaker 1>And to reassure Tim, I think we are both so

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<v Speaker 1>constantly and acutely aware of our failures that.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, the big head thing is just not danger

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<v Speaker 2>not worried about that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I can hardly take in my creative output because all

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<v Speaker 1>I can see are the flaw. So don't worry about

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<v Speaker 1>that that overstates it, that overstates it. But I'm very

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<v Speaker 1>aware of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this for a fact. Psychologically, people tend to

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<v Speaker 2>be one of two directions, and then it's a it's

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<v Speaker 2>a continuum. So you might be like, way out there.

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<v Speaker 2>I am way out there on one of them, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>But you tend to be either a person that thinks

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<v Speaker 2>everything that happens in your life is your fault, or

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<v Speaker 2>a person that thinks nothing in you that happens in

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<v Speaker 2>your life is your fault at somebody else's fault or circumstances.

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<v Speaker 2>And then you're somewhere in between on that continuum. And

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<v Speaker 2>I lean pretty far toward everything that happens is my fault.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hadn't considered this until I came across this premise.

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<v Speaker 2>Every relationship that's ever failed in my life, I have

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<v Speaker 2>only ever looked at or thought about the things that

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<v Speaker 2>I did that caused it to go bad, as if

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<v Speaker 2>they had no role whatsoever, or it couldn't possibly be

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<v Speaker 2>something they did, or they have any flaws. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>even considered the other side. It's always been me, and

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<v Speaker 2>just so I lean way toward that for some reason, huh.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know why. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter, my youngest, she had a college professor who

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<v Speaker 1>used to like to hit them with pissy thoughts right

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<v Speaker 1>before they started exams.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea why. It was just his thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And remember, and he'd lay something on him And at

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<v Speaker 1>one point what he laid on them was, remember the

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<v Speaker 1>only commonality and all of your failed relationships is you?

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway? That started so where I look at everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And because Delaney really liked this teacher, she she

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<v Speaker 1>connected with him for a coffee or something down the

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<v Speaker 1>road and said, boy, that really stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 2>And he said, I said that that's a terrible thing

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<v Speaker 2>to say. I really said that. Wow, that's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Some of a friend of mine hit me with that

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<v Speaker 2>the other day because there was a point where all

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<v Speaker 2>three cars that I own had a dent in them,

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<v Speaker 2>which is incredibly low rent. I mean said, happened to

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<v Speaker 2>stupid people keep happening to me. And they said, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the common factor one, young Michael, just take it

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<v Speaker 2>from me. Once you start blaming others, Jack, you'll feel

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<v Speaker 2>very comfortable. It makes it easier and easier. Yeah. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of uh pithy thoughts. I was on the shower

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts Reddit thread yesterday and grabbed just a couple because

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<v Speaker 2>most of them sucked.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we've run out of good shower thoughts,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did this as a feature on the show

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time. Yeah, fun these are they start

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<v Speaker 1>to suck? Yes, yeah, these are.

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<v Speaker 2>I think one of them is funny, but maybe but

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of interesting. I didn't know this where uh,

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<v Speaker 2>every this has been true of May, and May is

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<v Speaker 2>almost over because we so you missed out. But every

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<v Speaker 2>day for the next ten days was going to be same,

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<v Speaker 2>the same backwards or forwards. And this was true during

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<v Speaker 2>five twenty twenty five through five twenty nine twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So it all ended yesterday. The fun ended yesterday. You

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<v Speaker 2>missed it while it was true, But so forward or

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<v Speaker 2>backwards five two oh two five, or read it backwards

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<v Speaker 2>five to oh two five, and then the same way

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<v Speaker 2>for five two one two five five two one two five, Sassin,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't that fun? And you missed out on it? It ended?

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<v Speaker 1>Damn it.

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<v Speaker 2>When people yearn for a simpler, worry free time, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't yearn for an actually simpler time, but for a

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<v Speaker 2>time when they were kids and their parents did the

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<v Speaker 2>worrying for them. That is often true of you know why,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a simpler time because I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 2>worry about the bills or anything else interest rates. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't thinking about any of that stuff. Ugh, yes, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was a sigh of deep on WII.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I was just thinking back to the period of

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<v Speaker 1>my life when that truth hit the most powerfully.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, very challenging. And then this one. I definitely

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<v Speaker 2>not care free. No, I thought this was really a

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<v Speaker 2>good one and very true. If you're walking around thinking

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<v Speaker 2>with Israel, Hamas and Ukraine and you know, China on

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<v Speaker 2>the rise or whatever it is, all that stuff that

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about. Whooping cough what oh, still getting over it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if I'll have this for the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>my life. No, no, you will. I won't.

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<v Speaker 1>And we've got a friend with the long COVID Holy cow.

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<v Speaker 1>He's correspondent with a couple of doctors who've been recommended

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<v Speaker 1>by friends who are connected to medicine, and they've all said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>all of my patients have gotten better, but sometimes it

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<v Speaker 1>takes a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. Oof. The world isn't falling apart, it's merely

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<v Speaker 2>exiting from the odd most peaceful era of human history

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<v Speaker 2>and returning to long term normalcy. That is very much true,

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<v Speaker 2>returning to the mean. It is returning to what it

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<v Speaker 2>has been throughout world history. We had a lucky period here,

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<v Speaker 2>partially because of the United States was so dominant that

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<v Speaker 2>it could keep world order where that might be going away,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's just back to, you know, the way

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<v Speaker 2>the world always was, which doesn't make it, which isn't

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<v Speaker 2>comforting as the bombs rained down or whatever happens. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>convincing people who have grown up in liberty and affluence

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<v Speaker 2>that this is incredibly delicate and we need to protect

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<v Speaker 2>it or it's going to go away, it's very difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to convince a lot of people of that truth. It's

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<v Speaker 2>also apparently almost impossible to convince people of some we

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<v Speaker 2>have it great other countries or people would will be

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<v Speaker 2>happily take this from us if we don't stop them. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that has always been true, right, they don't care, you

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<v Speaker 2>know that whole I built this house on the land

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<v Speaker 2>once owned by these so and so Indians that can

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<v Speaker 2>come back again very easily, and somebody made someday, I

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<v Speaker 2>built this house on the land that once was California,

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<v Speaker 2>but now as a Chinese province or whatever, like they

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<v Speaker 2>would care anyway. We got more on the waistair.

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<v Speaker 5>It was December twenty eighth, twenty eight year old's Cameron McDougall,

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<v Speaker 5>a Canadian citizen, allegedly assaulted someone on a Coopa Airlines

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<v Speaker 5>flight from Panama City, Panama, to Toronto. Authorities say he

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<v Speaker 5>was taken off that flight, but not arrested and allowed

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<v Speaker 5>to book on another airline.

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<v Speaker 2>He was back at Miami International Airport the next day.

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<v Speaker 5>He passes through security and hides behind a wall before

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<v Speaker 5>he's seen punching a man walking by. Then he storms

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<v Speaker 5>back to the TSA checkpoint, where security cameras catch him

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<v Speaker 5>throwing several punches at TSA officers until he's knocked down

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<v Speaker 5>over a luggage cart and pinned.

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<v Speaker 2>Down until law enforcement arrives.

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<v Speaker 5>McDougall has pleaded guilty in federal court to assaulting TSA officers.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, the end of the story is the important part.

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<v Speaker 2>He like one in December, beat up passengers and air

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<v Speaker 2>waitresses on a plane, and he didn't go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>He's still out. Then he attacks people yesterday. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>yet another example of somebody showing you who they are

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<v Speaker 2>and we think it's a one off or let's give

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<v Speaker 2>them a second chance or whatever that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Just these bizarre utopian notions of justice right are so popular.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so obviously freaking nut job should have been in

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<v Speaker 2>jail before. Yeah, don't we need more jail.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not fere So I'd like to congratulate Florida Man,

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<v Speaker 1>who after you know, a bit of a down period.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Florida Man really led America in aberrant behavior for.

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<v Speaker 2>A long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But in recent days California junkie or Louisiana inmate has really.

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<v Speaker 2>Kind of seized the mantle. But here's a good comeback attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's a Florida man way whacked out on mes Okay again,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the things that made Florida Man great mess,

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<v Speaker 1>forty two year old Timothy Schultz dance with the drug

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<v Speaker 1>that brung you exactly. He first came to the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of folks in his part of Florida because he was

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<v Speaker 1>swimming across a lake. I don't know if you know

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<v Speaker 1>much about Florida or the Deep South in general, Airs

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<v Speaker 1>is saying, if you want to know, if there's a

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<v Speaker 1>gator in the lake. Stick your finger in it. Bring

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<v Speaker 1>your finger out if your finger is wet. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>gator in it. So he's swimming across a lake and

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<v Speaker 1>the neighbors are like, hey, dude, there's a gater next

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<v Speaker 1>to you. So they call the authorities. The authorities show up.

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<v Speaker 1>This guy's swimming across. He gets out of the lake.

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<v Speaker 1>His arm has obviously been chewed up by an allegation. Oooh,

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<v Speaker 1>that of very little interest to Florida man, who hardly

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<v Speaker 1>even noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so messed out.

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<v Speaker 1>And he arms himself for some reason with some glipping

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<v Speaker 1>shears that somebody was using in one of the yards

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<v Speaker 1>by the lake. And oh, one of the bystanders throw

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<v Speaker 1>him a life preserver. He ignored that.

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<v Speaker 2>He emerges with his gator chewed arm.

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<v Speaker 1>He grabs a pair of garden shears, then tried to

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<v Speaker 1>break into a vehicle by throwing a brick. According to

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<v Speaker 1>the sheriff, when deputies arrived, they say they jumped out

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<v Speaker 1>of the vehicle saw mister Charltz walking between holmes with

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<v Speaker 1>a set of shears. Then he charged at the deputy

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<v Speaker 1>and attempted to trim them. Oh, they tried to de

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<v Speaker 1>escalate and tased him twice, but he continued to be aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>all mefed up and everything. Then he jumped in the

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<v Speaker 1>passenger seat of a running patrol vehicle and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>grab the shotgun out of it. Oh wow, at which point,

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately Jack Florida man met his end.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta shoot him at that point. Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>By gives you an idea how difficult it is for

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<v Speaker 2>cops dealing with or anybody dealing with a with a

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<v Speaker 2>meft up person. If the gator chewed arm and being

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<v Speaker 2>tased twice doesn't slow him down, that's a remember that

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<v Speaker 2>if you ever get in a fight or might get

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<v Speaker 2>in a fight with somebody who's on math, you ain't

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<v Speaker 2>You ain't got a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up next segment, absolutely brilliant essay why Americans don't

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<v Speaker 1>Undersland understand Vladimir Putin?

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<v Speaker 2>Really good cool. I want to hear that myself, armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and getty. I pay a tremendous amount of attention to

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<v Speaker 2>although you Ukraine Russia War. I check in on the Telegraph,

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<v Speaker 2>the London newspaper, their daily Ukraine podcast at least part

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<v Speaker 2>of it every single day for an update, mostly on

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<v Speaker 2>the diplomacy stuff. They also do a great update on

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<v Speaker 2>the military part. If you care about that, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Russia's losing fifteen hundred men a day killed or wounded,

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<v Speaker 2>but off the battlefield fifteen hundred a day. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>stunning number.

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<v Speaker 1>So on that topic, I'm gonna read part of an

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<v Speaker 1>essay I've come across by Constantine Kissing. You know Constantine

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<v Speaker 1>he is. He's most often described as a comedian. He

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<v Speaker 1>does commentary. He's a commentator, he's a podcast host. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a thinker and a writer. He is a brit he

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<v Speaker 1>is of Russian extraction. I think he may have emigrated

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<v Speaker 1>as a child, but he's absolutely a first generation britt

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<v Speaker 1>who's also an American of file, as you'll hear. But

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<v Speaker 1>he goes into how prompted by the wave of Missilan

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<v Speaker 1>drown attacks on the Ukrainian towns, Trump said what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always had a good relationship with Putin, but something's

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<v Speaker 1>happened to him. He's gone absolutely crazy, and the other

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<v Speaker 1>things he said. So that's what Putin's writing about. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>not Putin Keisen Kissing. That's what he's writing about. Why

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<v Speaker 1>Americans don't understand Vladimir Putin. That's an interesting theory. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we examined it in detail, it's worth pointing out that

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<v Speaker 1>numerous American presidents have attempted to believe Putin could be

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<v Speaker 1>reasoned with, and then he goes through the George W.

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<v Speaker 1>Bush looked into his eyes, saw soul, Bill Clinton, o Ama.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the reset, all of it. US presidents prefer,

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<v Speaker 1>at least pretend to believe because it pretends them from

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<v Speaker 1>having to face the reality of who Putin has always

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<v Speaker 1>been and what that means for America in the West.

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<v Speaker 1>But far more importantly, this belief is also a product

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<v Speaker 1>of the American psyche, which makes even the most cynical

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<v Speaker 1>US politicians susceptible to manipulation by those who operate within

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<v Speaker 1>a different moral framework. You'll not find a bigger fan

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<v Speaker 1>of the United States than me, he writes. Spending time

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<v Speaker 1>in the US is always a joy. One cannot help

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<v Speaker 1>but be inspired by the culture of openness, cooperation, and positivity.

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<v Speaker 1>The story of America is that anything is possible, especially

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<v Speaker 1>when good people get together to do business, make money,

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<v Speaker 1>and thrive. While most Americans take these cultural traits as given,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is that they are rare and are in

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<v Speaker 1>no small part the foundation of America's success. Americans are

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<v Speaker 1>widely regarded around the world as extremely friendly, welcoming, proactive,

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<v Speaker 1>and constructive. But every coin has two sides. The trade

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<v Speaker 1>off of this business focused, open minded, good faith, let's

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<v Speaker 1>make money approach is a consistent failure to contend with

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<v Speaker 1>the reality that not all cultures and not all people

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<v Speaker 1>are like this an extremely important point in my education

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<v Speaker 1>learning this stuff, not just my formal education, but education

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<v Speaker 1>in general. I think my Western friends often say that

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<v Speaker 1>I come across as intense, unsmiling, and even angry in

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<v Speaker 1>interviews by American standards. They're certainly right, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>they're always surprised when I tell them the story of

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<v Speaker 1>showing a Russian family member a school photo of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Why have you all got that idiotic American smile? She asked. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>The open, welcoming and positive attitude that is the default

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<v Speaker 1>setting in America is widely regarded in many parts of

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<v Speaker 1>the world as evidence of gullibility, un seriousness, and naivete.

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<v Speaker 1>It is seen, sometimes justifiably, as an attitude that leaves

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<v Speaker 1>people vulnerable to deception, not because Americans are stupid, but

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<v Speaker 1>because their desire to believe in the good of all

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<v Speaker 1>makes it harder for them to recognize when others are

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<v Speaker 1>not in fact good. And to fully grasp the cultural

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<v Speaker 1>chasm between Russia and America, you need to understand the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the two countries. I will summarize this, though

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<v Speaker 1>it is fabulously written. The US is a nation of

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<v Speaker 1>people who conquered a continent. It is filled with the

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<v Speaker 1>descendants of those who left their homelands to seek a

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<v Speaker 1>better life on the other side of the world. Goes

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<v Speaker 1>through the hardships, the triumphs, the centuries of newcomers, the

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<v Speaker 1>work hard, go get it mentality, a high trust, collaborative society.

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<v Speaker 1>We have no comparable genetic memory of being invaded by

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<v Speaker 1>powerful enemies. The Great Depression was merely a precursor to

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<v Speaker 1>the country's explosion into an economic and manufacturing superpower.

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<v Speaker 2>Pearl Harbor was followed.

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<v Speaker 1>By overwhelming victory in World War Two and then the

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<v Speaker 1>period of American dominance.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what's formed us as a people.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything is possible, problems or challenges to be solved, and

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<v Speaker 1>the future is bright now. Kissing Rights consider the history

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<v Speaker 1>of Russia. One of the founding experiences of the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>nation is being occupied by the Mongols, the descendants of

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<v Speaker 1>Jengis Khan, wiped out anyone who resisted and subjugated everyone else.

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<v Speaker 1>Those are horrors equivalent to your country being invaded by

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<v Speaker 1>Isis or Kyl Drago from the Game of Thrones. They butcher, rape,

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<v Speaker 1>and torture their way through every major city and force

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<v Speaker 1>everyone else to bend the knee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we don't have that experience. I think about that

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<v Speaker 2>a lot, even without getting into Genghis Khan, just like

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<v Speaker 2>we've never had been invaded by Nazis like France, or

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<v Speaker 2>been bombed like England, or lots of different places that

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, been attacked like that.

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<v Speaker 1>We have not. In Russia, this period is called the

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<v Speaker 1>tet Mongol yoke, a yoke being a device joined like

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<v Speaker 1>oxen to pull a load. That period of time lasted

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<v Speaker 1>around two hundred and forty years, as long as the

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<v Speaker 1>entire history of the US. To this day, the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>language contains many Mongolian words, especially those related to taxation, weaponry,

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<v Speaker 1>and war. Another formative period in Russian history is called

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<v Speaker 1>the Smuta or times of Trouble. Ivan the Terrible, infamous

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<v Speaker 1>for killing his only viable air and a fit of

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<v Speaker 1>rage passed down his crown to a feeble and incapable son.

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<v Speaker 1>When that son, Feodor, died without an air, Russia was

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<v Speaker 1>thrust into fifteen years of chaos, in which a succession

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<v Speaker 1>of usurpers and false claimant battled over the throne, combined

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<v Speaker 1>with famine, disease in a series of foreign invasions, a

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<v Speaker 1>series of foreign invasions, the Times of Troubles saw at

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<v Speaker 1>least a third of Russia's population wiped out in fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the key conclusions Russians drew from this is that,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever else he is, a ruler must be strong to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain order. A weak ruler leads to chaos, and chaos

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<v Speaker 1>is to be avoided at any cost, how poorly this

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<v Speaker 1>is understood in the West. Is ironically and perfectly encapsulated

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<v Speaker 1>in the different names Russians and English speakers have for

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<v Speaker 1>Ivan the terrible. The word terrible is a telling mistrans

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<v Speaker 1>his moniker in Russian is much more accurately translated as fearsome.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Surprise. I haven't come across that before all the

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<v Speaker 2>Russia stuff I read. But yeah, that's yeah. If you

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<v Speaker 2>have chaos and gangs running the street and It's like

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<v Speaker 2>Haiti or Russia during that period. You'd be happier in

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<v Speaker 2>hell to have a dictator come along if it restored order.

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<v Speaker 2>So at least you could, like, you know, work your

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<v Speaker 2>job and have your kids go to school. Yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>have through the years.

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<v Speaker 1>On this show discussed at length the concept of UH

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<v Speaker 1>liberty or compassion versus order, and how order without compassion

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<v Speaker 1>is fascism and brutality, and compassion without order is chaos

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<v Speaker 1>and ugliness. And so Russians culturally are extremely fond of order.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can you imagine being slaughtered like the Mongols

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<v Speaker 1>did and then still the same people in same country

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<v Speaker 1>sort of, I mean, obviously not the same governmental structure,

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<v Speaker 1>but the same cultural people being slaughtered again, two thirds

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<v Speaker 1>of them because a week leadership and then kissing gets

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<v Speaker 1>into In the centuries since that crap happened, Russia's repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>been invaded by its western neighbors, including the Swedes, Lithuanians, Poles, Finns,

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<v Speaker 1>and famously Napoleon Bonaparte and then Adolf Hitler. While these

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<v Speaker 1>attacks were ultimately repelled, they left deep scars in the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian psyche. There's little triumphalism about defeating Napoleon, whose evasion

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<v Speaker 1>saw invasion, saw Moscow burn to the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, victory war in peace if you want to know

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<v Speaker 2>what that was like. Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And while victory in the Great Patriotic War, the Russian

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<v Speaker 1>name for WW two, as much celebrated came around the

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<v Speaker 1>it came at the cost of around twenty million lives.

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<v Speaker 1>By contrast, we the United States lost Joe just over

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred thousand people in the same conflict, twenty million

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<v Speaker 1>to four hundred thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he goes into the revolutions on civil wars

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<v Speaker 2>and not on our turf, with our homes going along

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<v Speaker 2>with the lives of being lost and everything right right then,

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<v Speaker 2>Compare also the revolutions in civil wars which took place

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<v Speaker 2>in the two countries. Russian Revolution, which sparked the Russian

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<v Speaker 2>Civil War, resulted in the installation of a tyrannical, murderous

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<v Speaker 2>communist regime which exterminated its enemies, expropriated private property, and

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<v Speaker 2>instituted decades long reign of terror, ending in economic collapse

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<v Speaker 2>in Cold War defeat in nineteen ninety one.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the American Revolution is a story of a successful

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<v Speaker 1>fight for independence, while the American Civil War, although bloody

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<v Speaker 1>and painful, is seen as the price of progress on

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<v Speaker 1>the path to ultimate unification. And I wish we had

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<v Speaker 1>more time for this, but you get the idea. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me skip to his concluding paragraph. In his long telegram,

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<v Speaker 1>George Keen and the great American diplomat, famously wrote that

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<v Speaker 1>Russia was quote impervious to logic of reason and is

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<v Speaker 1>highly sensitive to logic of force. This is why I

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<v Speaker 1>had high and so far false, false hopes for Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>ability to end the war. I assumed you would understand

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<v Speaker 1>the obvious that bringing Putin to the negotiating.

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<v Speaker 2>Table would require a carrot and a stick.

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<v Speaker 1>So far dangling only the carrot of ending the killing

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<v Speaker 1>and sending a starry eyed, historically and geographically illiterate lawyer

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<v Speaker 1>to be bamboozled for hours in the Kremlin has predictably

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<v Speaker 1>produced nothing. That's Trump's friend, what's his name? Who's in

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<v Speaker 1>charge of the Russia negotiations and the Middle East? It's

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:31.000
<v Speaker 1>complete waste of time. By the way, the only way

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<v Speaker 1>Trump will get serious negotiations going is to threaten Putin

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<v Speaker 1>with ramping up not only sanctions but high grade, extensive

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<v Speaker 1>military aid to Ukraine. As long as that option is

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<v Speaker 1>not on the table, Putin will keep calling America's bluff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Trump will. Putin will stop when he's forced to

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<v Speaker 2>the end. Yeah yeah, you know. A good summary of

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:54.600
<v Speaker 2>that long piece would be wake up or grow up?

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<v Speaker 5>Grow up.

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<v Speaker 1>America's great failing is that we everybody thinks like us,

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<v Speaker 1>over and over and over again.

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.840
<v Speaker 2>That was George Bush's George W. Bush is great failing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll just give him democracy and tell them how great

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 2>it is. Then they will do it. Yeah, we we

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<v Speaker 2>We hate the idea of US culture where the strong

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 2>can just take from the week whenever they want. There

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:22.600
<v Speaker 2>are a lot of cultures that think that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Get what's coming to the only conceivable choice, right like

0:28:29.880 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 1>like anything else is an interesting thought experiment if maybe

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>you're stoned or something. But let's be realistic. The strong

0:28:38.240 --> 0:28:41.120
<v Speaker 1>do what they will. The week do what they must.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we had to leave time for this, so Hanson,

0:28:44.680 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 2>our executive producer, crafted an AI tune about Joe earlier

0:28:48.120 --> 0:28:49.360
<v Speaker 2>in the show. We'll play a little of that for

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<v Speaker 2>you to smash hit. And now he's crafted a song

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<v Speaker 2>about me which I have not heard of him and

0:28:55.480 --> 0:29:05.200
<v Speaker 2>not looking forward to that is coming up next. Oh

0:29:05.280 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>my god, I just got my final thought from a

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.240
<v Speaker 2>CBS news headline. I saw, okay, that'll be my final thought.

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 2>So earlier we were talking AI and got on the

0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>topic of like songwriting for one thing, because I I

0:29:16.320 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>asked chat GPT a question about a song I was

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<v Speaker 2>writing last night, which makes me feel horrible. I'll never

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<v Speaker 2>do that again in my life. And I did not

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>use the recommendation, but like, what is the point AnyWho?

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<v Speaker 2>Executive producer Hansen decided to craft a few songs through

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:35.600
<v Speaker 2>a I and crafted one about Joe that goes something

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:42.160
<v Speaker 2>like this and you just frank this up a little bit,

0:29:42.240 --> 0:29:45.640
<v Speaker 2>and this is my favorite kind of music. He gets

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 2>up every morning. Tell me why not. Everybody's dedicated his

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<v Speaker 2>home magistanis.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, everyone to hear him last.

0:30:02.280 --> 0:30:03.200
<v Speaker 2>That's all last.

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<v Speaker 7>He's a master of metaphor and the wordsmith supreme.

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<v Speaker 2>But don't ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Him to work to hall.

0:30:16.560 --> 0:30:21.160
<v Speaker 2>It's right, all of leisure. He's the king. There I go,

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm a chorus. Come on, Joey.

0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 6>Joke.

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's great, it's a fault man joke, Getty joke

0:30:38.560 --> 0:30:46.440
<v Speaker 2>that could have been on he haw ah, beautiful. So

0:30:47.440 --> 0:30:49.360
<v Speaker 2>that was Joe's song, which we heard earlier. I've not

0:30:49.480 --> 0:30:51.560
<v Speaker 2>heard anything we need to know about this answer. I

0:30:51.680 --> 0:30:54.800
<v Speaker 2>went with a more contemporary feel, okay, but I think

0:30:54.880 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the music is something that you'll dig. All right.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>He's a true all America, a patriot, father, gentlemen.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:05.280
<v Speaker 2>He's weary.

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:09.640
<v Speaker 7>He did just start this shoes and never finding him

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:11.240
<v Speaker 7>drinking booze.

0:31:11.840 --> 0:31:14.560
<v Speaker 2>A family man, a hard working man. He grew up

0:31:14.600 --> 0:31:16.840
<v Speaker 2>in a heart land. He's no food.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:19.880
<v Speaker 7>He won't be fighting old bad boom.

0:31:20.880 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>The whooping cough, My get o, my gidd.

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 3>Unless he stops eating that greasy food.

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 7>Jack control whooping cough, My get o, my get unless

0:31:29.200 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 7>he stops eating that greasy food. Jack control whooping cough,

0:31:33.400 --> 0:31:34.160
<v Speaker 7>My gett.

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Who because he stops doing that before the purser. But

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.240
<v Speaker 2>know it's better than the fighting. He unless he stopped

0:31:41.280 --> 0:31:45.520
<v Speaker 2>seating that greasy food. Jack cowstrat lo.

0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:47.080
<v Speaker 6>There you go.

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>That is a very modern country song. Whooping cough might

0:31:50.400 --> 0:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>get him wow handsome. One of the points being that, like,

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>how long did that whole thing take you once you

0:32:00.600 --> 0:32:02.360
<v Speaker 2>wrote the lyrics, which you could have had AI write

0:32:02.360 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 2>the lyrics, but once you wrote the lyrics. How long

0:32:03.880 --> 0:32:06.440
<v Speaker 2>did it take that cross? It was seconds and it

0:32:06.520 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>gave me two versions. There's another version, but we liked

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.400
<v Speaker 2>that one better. That is just amazing.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the irony, as we were chatting about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>So AI is going to free us up from having

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 1>the works that we can write songs or whatever? What

0:32:21.560 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 1>the hell's the point? The AI is doing that too, right,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:28.000
<v Speaker 1>which they'll free us up to what grow tomatoes?

0:32:29.000 --> 0:32:32.880
<v Speaker 2>All right? I was compelled by an emotional situation to

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>want to write a song yesterday, and then what I'm

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna have chat GBT write it. The whole artistics expression

0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 2>thing is generally too I mean, what are you doing

0:32:44.840 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 2>letting it out?

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 5>Right?

0:32:46.520 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Hey, chat GBT? Could you ruminate on my life

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>for a while while I scroll through Twitter?

0:32:52.800 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>And I've talked to people a lot through the years

0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:59.080
<v Speaker 1>about you know why I bother writing and producing songs

0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:03.280
<v Speaker 1>that you know people will hear. It's because the process

0:33:03.360 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 1>is so satisfying. You start with silence and you end

0:33:06.680 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>up with a complete song and arrangement and everything and

0:33:09.000 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>sounds good at least in my ears.

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 2>And if that was just handed to you, well, then

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:16.960
<v Speaker 2>what are we doing here?

0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>Or substitute writing same sort of thing. If chat g BT,

0:33:21.040 --> 0:33:24.040
<v Speaker 2>can you know, fix your poem in a way that

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>you can't, well, then what is the point?

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Look what I wrote kind of sort of but I didn't. Yeah, yeah,

0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I got a bad feeling about this. Yeah, well, so

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 1>does that that one book I read which was deep

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 1>in Thorny.

0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:41.440
<v Speaker 2>What was the name of that book I had for

0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:45.120
<v Speaker 2>you earlier? Deep Utopia by Nick Bostrom. I mean, if

0:33:45.120 --> 0:33:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you're really into this topic, he goes really deep on

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 2>the meaning of mankind and how this could possibly disrupt

0:33:52.720 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 2>it and how rough it's going to be if we

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 2>don't need to work. He's assuming the sort of worst

0:33:59.040 --> 0:34:02.160
<v Speaker 2>case scenario, although plenty of people think it's best case scenario,

0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:05.440
<v Speaker 2>which I think you're nuts. The people out there who

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 2>think best case scenario is AI can produce better than

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 2>we ever could, will provide enough GDP and we can

0:34:14.160 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 2>all stay home and you know, play the guitar and

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:19.640
<v Speaker 2>write poems and grow tomatoes. Our only purpose will be pleasure.

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<v Speaker 2>That'll right, right right, There's no chance that works out.

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<v Speaker 2>Final thought Great songs and gee oh yeah rocket, here's

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<v Speaker 2>your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. So flascid.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the

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<v Speaker 1>crew draft things up for the week.

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<v Speaker 2>There is our technical director, Michaelangelo. Michael final tallet.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I'm on my way to a college graduation and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to be sitting on bleachers for several hours,

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<v Speaker 5>so hide outside.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and two of that.

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:52.920
<v Speaker 7>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to see how this goes. Oh my god,

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:56.399
<v Speaker 2>people will literally be passing out.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Kramba, Wow, Katie Green is off this. He can't

0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:01.680
<v Speaker 1>wait till she's back on Monday. Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Final thought for we speaking of graduation is the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that made me so angry is I just saw the

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.480
<v Speaker 2>CBS headline about how the Harvard president, speaking to the

0:35:09.520 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Harvard graduating class yesterday, got a one minute standing ovation

0:35:14.320 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 2>from the class for his blasting the Trump administration. No

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>mention in the CBS news headline that Harvard finished last

0:35:24.239 --> 0:35:26.960
<v Speaker 2>this previous year in terms of academic freedom by the

0:35:27.000 --> 0:35:29.480
<v Speaker 2>people who ranked that sort of thing and their own

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:34.040
<v Speaker 2>report about themselves showed them to be discriminatory and antisemitic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, that didn't Well, they didn't have time to

0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>mention that in the news. Year you're in one minute

0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:43.879
<v Speaker 2>standing ovation. What are you talking about? My final thought.

0:35:43.960 --> 0:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>To claim that a normally reasonable, rational and pragmatic Putin

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>with whom we can do business has suddenly become a

0:35:49.640 --> 0:35:53.480
<v Speaker 2>different person and gone crazy is insane in his self.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 2>Putin is what he is and has always been. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 2>and getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So

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<v Speaker 2>many people, thanks so a little time. Good Armstrong you

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<v Speaker 2>Getty dot com. Great pleasures, await you. God bless America.

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<v Speaker 5>He's no food, he.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:10.240
<v Speaker 7>Won't be fighting old bad boom.

0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:14.160
<v Speaker 2>The whooping calls my gettle, my giddle. Let's he stop

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 2>seating that greasy food jack.

0:36:16.480 --> 0:36:19.600
<v Speaker 7>Constro whoop and call my gettle, my giddle. Let's he

0:36:19.640 --> 0:36:23.520
<v Speaker 7>stop seating that greasy food check contro op and call

0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.000
<v Speaker 7>my ghettle my gettle.

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<v Speaker 2>Less he stop seating that greasy food jack.

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<v Speaker 7>Constro whooping, called my gettle, my get unless he stop

0:36:31.640 --> 0:36:33.719
<v Speaker 7>seating that greasy food jack.

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<v Speaker 2>On strone and done,