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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.

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Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Getty Armstrong and Jetty and he

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Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. Yesterday we tried to decipher what Trump

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Speaker 2: was saying Wednesday. I think when he talked about two weeks,

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Speaker 2: Putin's got two weeks, I didn't know if that was

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Speaker 2: like an ultimatum. I mean, in usual Trumpian fashion, was

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Speaker 2: kind of vague on that, but a number of news

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Speaker 2: organizations have pointed out since then he has said two

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Speaker 2: weeks at least four different times in the last since

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Speaker 2: he took office about Putin's got two weeks and then

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Speaker 2: we'll know, as like a deadline. So I guess that

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Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean anything, although the rubber meets the road

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Speaker 2: in that we are either going to back the sanctions

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Speaker 2: in Europe and or add on to them like eighty

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Speaker 2: two senators want to do, or and and continue to

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Speaker 2: arm Ukraine and give them intelligence, or we're not, and

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Speaker 2: that decision is going to be made at some point.

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Speaker 1: Right right with perhaps you know, historical significance, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean like serious historical significance significance, not like people throw.

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Speaker 2: It around all the time. That term, the term this

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Speaker 2: is history making a historical day because Katy Perry went

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Speaker 2: up near space exactly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for instance, Katy Perry, Gail King and others been

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Speaker 1: up in the air for a little bit.

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Speaker 2: This is a historic day. Yeah, No, a real one.

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Speaker 2: I'm said.

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Speaker 1: So, a lot to squeeze in the last hour of

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Speaker 1: the week. Can't wait to get started, Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: It's the Friday tradition. If I look back at the

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Speaker 1: week that was, it's cow clips of the week.

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Speaker 2: But in this moment, this morning, my god, strato frappucino,

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Speaker 2: which is the week. And I don't know what the

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Speaker 2: hell happened to Putin. I've known him a long time

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Speaker 2: and something happened to this guy, and I don't like it.

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Speaker 2: I don't think Pootin has changed.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what the president's talking about negative rites.

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Speaker 2: I only know of one really bad thing, World War three.

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Speaker 2: I think this four is about to get a lot

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Speaker 2: dirtier now. It looks as though the war in Gaza

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Speaker 2: is raging on a level that we haven't seen present

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Speaker 2: posting on truth social that he may take quote three

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Speaker 2: billion dollars of grant money away from fairy, anti Semitic Harvard, the.

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Speaker 4: Staggering setback for President Trump's aggressive trade agenda. The White

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Speaker 4: House rebuking the court, saying it is not for unelected

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Speaker 4: judges to decide how to properly address a national emergency.

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Speaker 2: I think it both can be can be can be big,

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Speaker 2: or it can be beautiful, but I don't know if

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Speaker 2: it could be both. Republicans on the House Oversight Committee

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Speaker 2: are ready in subpoenas.

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Speaker 5: We want to ask him, who gave you the authority

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Speaker 5: to use Joe Biden's signature.

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Speaker 2: We never got somebody that said we should never have

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Speaker 2: done this. I can't believe we did it. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 2: gradations of honesty. Video of President McCool and his wife

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Speaker 2: Frigie pushing his face is going virals. The gaugeous piece

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Speaker 2: dis lose are staying, you loser, get dressed. We're going

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Speaker 2: to kill kid. Cuddy Clarker called combstaelling her, but the

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Speaker 2: rapper wasn't home at the time, and prosecutor say that

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Speaker 2: John Wells proceeded to essentially torture him, demanding that he

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Speaker 2: give up his Bigcoin password.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lay down, I'm not to get in

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Speaker 3: the bed, I just want to call tell you that

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Speaker 3: night mostly.

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Speaker 6: During power can change the definition of the words we

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Speaker 6: use to describe reality.

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Speaker 2: Shut up, your word is a clar.

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Speaker 3: C small A cla e C O A I R

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Speaker 3: C I S S E M e U.

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Speaker 6: That is correct.

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Speaker 2: Stumping the joy out of life Armstrong and Getty. Yes,

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Speaker 2: if you missed our segment stumping stomping the joy out

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Speaker 2: of the spelling Bee, that was an hour one, you

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Speaker 2: can find the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.

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Speaker 1: To quote an American Idol contestant from many years ago.

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Speaker 1: Actually it was the mother of a contestant where he

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Speaker 1: from French?

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Speaker 2: What are they giving.

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Speaker 1: Clarissimoon? It's the English spelling b for Indian kids. What

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Speaker 1: are you doing with French words?

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Speaker 2: Well, because they all study fifteen hours a day all

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Speaker 2: summer long. Rather than have a childhood. You have to get,

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Speaker 2: you know, pretty deep into the weeds on words to

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Speaker 2: finally get enough people to miss. Do you get a

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Speaker 2: champion the word weeds? Waste of time? Anyway? Consult our one.

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Speaker 2: So first, this a little self aggrandizement from Timothy Timothy Sandefer,

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Speaker 2: our friend, tim the lawyer who we had on yesterday

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Speaker 2: with an excellent segment, as always, about a number of things.

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Speaker 2: Read the law he was responding to. So he tweeted

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Speaker 2: out his segment on the Armstrong and Getty Show. Somebody

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Speaker 2: had responded to him saying that they gave upon political

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Speaker 2: radio years ago, and Tim responded with, I sympathize, but

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Speaker 2: at risk of giving my friends Jack and Joe big heads.

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Speaker 2: What makes their show special is that it's political without

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Speaker 2: being angry and overbearing and just a bunch of echo

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Speaker 2: chamber slogan airing bs to a chet responded the same person,

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Speaker 2: fully agree it was more the overall news cycle becoming absurd,

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Speaker 2: But Jack and Joe are absolutely the best, and I'm

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Speaker 2: glad they're still out there. So, oh, thanks, it's very

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Speaker 2: kind of you. Thank you made me feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: not completely wasting my time getting up, getting dressed and

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Speaker 2: coming to work as I often feel.

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Speaker 1: And to reassure Tim, I think we are both so

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Speaker 1: constantly and acutely aware of our failures that.

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Speaker 2: All right, the big head thing is just not danger

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Speaker 2: not worried about that happening.

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Speaker 1: I can hardly take in my creative output because all

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Speaker 1: I can see are the flaw. So don't worry about

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Speaker 1: that that overstates it, that overstates it. But I'm very

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Speaker 1: aware of them.

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Speaker 2: I know this for a fact. Psychologically, people tend to

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Speaker 2: be one of two directions, and then it's a it's

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Speaker 2: a continuum. So you might be like, way out there.

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Speaker 2: I am way out there on one of them, I think.

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Speaker 2: But you tend to be either a person that thinks

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Speaker 2: everything that happens in your life is your fault, or

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Speaker 2: a person that thinks nothing in you that happens in

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Speaker 2: And then you're somewhere in between on that continuum. And

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Speaker 2: I lean pretty far toward everything that happens is my fault.

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Speaker 2: And I hadn't considered this until I came across this premise.

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Speaker 2: Every relationship that's ever failed in my life, I have

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Speaker 2: only ever looked at or thought about the things that

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Speaker 2: I did that caused it to go bad, as if

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Speaker 2: they had no role whatsoever, or it couldn't possibly be

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Speaker 2: something they did, or they have any flaws. I've never

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My daughter, my youngest, she had a college professor who

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Speaker 1: used to like to hit them with pissy thoughts right

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why. It was just his thing.

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Speaker 1: And remember, and he'd lay something on him And at

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Speaker 1: one point what he laid on them was, remember the

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Speaker 1: only commonality and all of your failed relationships is you?

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Speaker 2: Anyway? That started so where I look at everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And because Delaney really liked this teacher, she she

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Speaker 2: And he said, I said that that's a terrible thing

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Speaker 2: to say. I really said that. Wow, that's funny.

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Speaker 2: Some of a friend of mine hit me with that

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Speaker 2: three cars that I own had a dent in them,

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Speaker 2: which is incredibly low rent. I mean said, happened to

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Speaker 2: stupid people keep happening to me. And they said, what

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Speaker 2: from me. Once you start blaming others, Jack, you'll feel

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Speaker 2: very comfortable. It makes it easier and easier. Yeah. Interesting,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if we've run out of good shower thoughts,

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Speaker 1: but we did this as a feature on the show

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Speaker 1: for a long time. Yeah, fun these are they start

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Speaker 1: to suck? Yes, yeah, these are.

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Speaker 2: I think one of them is funny, but maybe but

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Speaker 2: just kind of interesting. I didn't know this where uh,

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Speaker 2: every this has been true of May, and May is

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Speaker 2: the same backwards or forwards. And this was true during

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Speaker 2: five twenty twenty five through five twenty nine twenty five.

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Speaker 2: So it all ended yesterday. The fun ended yesterday. You

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Speaker 2: missed it while it was true, But so forward or

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Speaker 2: backwards five two oh two five, or read it backwards

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Speaker 2: isn't that fun? And you missed out on it? It ended?

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Speaker 1: Damn it.

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Speaker 2: When people yearn for a simpler, worry free time, they

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Speaker 2: wasn't thinking about any of that stuff. Ugh, yes, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well, I was just thinking back to the period of

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, very challenging. And then this one. I definitely

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Speaker 2: not care free. No, I thought this was really a

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Speaker 2: good one and very true. If you're walking around thinking

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Speaker 2: I wonder if I'll have this for the rest of

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Speaker 2: my life. No, no, you will. I won't.

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Speaker 1: And we've got a friend with the long COVID Holy cow.

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Speaker 1: He's correspondent with a couple of doctors who've been recommended

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Speaker 1: by friends who are connected to medicine, and they've all said, look,

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Speaker 1: takes a couple of years.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting. Oof. The world isn't falling apart, it's merely

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Speaker 2: exiting from the odd most peaceful era of human history

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Speaker 2: and returning to long term normalcy. That is very much true,

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Speaker 2: returning to the mean. It is returning to what it

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Speaker 2: has been throughout world history. We had a lucky period here,

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Speaker 2: and then it's just back to, you know, the way

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Speaker 2: the world always was, which doesn't make it, which isn't

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Speaker 2: comforting as the bombs rained down or whatever happens. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: convincing people who have grown up in liberty and affluence

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Speaker 2: that this is incredibly delicate and we need to protect

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Speaker 2: it or it's going to go away, it's very difficult

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Speaker 2: to convince a lot of people of that truth. It's

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Speaker 2: also apparently almost impossible to convince people of some we

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Speaker 2: have it great other countries or people would will be

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Speaker 2: happily take this from us if we don't stop them. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that has always been true, right, they don't care, you

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Speaker 2: know that whole I built this house on the land

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Speaker 2: built this house on the land that once was California,

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Speaker 1: Russian psyche. There's little triumphalism about defeating Napoleon, whose evasion

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Speaker 1: saw invasion, saw Moscow burn to the ground.

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Speaker 2: Well, victory war in peace if you want to know

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Speaker 2: what that was like. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And while victory in the Great Patriotic War, the Russian

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Speaker 1: name for WW two, as much celebrated came around the

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Speaker 1: it came at the cost of around twenty million lives.

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Speaker 1: By contrast, we the United States lost Joe just over

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand people in the same conflict, twenty million

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Speaker 1: to four hundred thousand.

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Speaker 2: And then he goes into the revolutions on civil wars

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Speaker 2: and not on our turf, with our homes going along

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Speaker 2: with the lives of being lost and everything right right then,

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Speaker 2: Compare also the revolutions in civil wars which took place

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Speaker 2: in the two countries. Russian Revolution, which sparked the Russian

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Speaker 2: Civil War, resulted in the installation of a tyrannical, murderous

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Speaker 2: communist regime which exterminated its enemies, expropriated private property, and

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Speaker 2: instituted decades long reign of terror, ending in economic collapse

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Speaker 2: in Cold War defeat in nineteen ninety one.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the American Revolution is a story of a successful

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Speaker 1: fight for independence, while the American Civil War, although bloody

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Speaker 1: and painful, is seen as the price of progress on

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Speaker 1: the path to ultimate unification. And I wish we had

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Speaker 1: more time for this, but you get the idea. Let

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Speaker 1: me skip to his concluding paragraph. In his long telegram,

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Speaker 1: George Keen and the great American diplomat, famously wrote that

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Speaker 1: Russia was quote impervious to logic of reason and is

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Speaker 1: highly sensitive to logic of force. This is why I

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Speaker 1: had high and so far false, false hopes for Trump's

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Speaker 1: ability to end the war. I assumed you would understand

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Speaker 1: the obvious that bringing Putin to the negotiating.

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Speaker 2: Table would require a carrot and a stick.

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Speaker 1: So far dangling only the carrot of ending the killing

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Speaker 1: and sending a starry eyed, historically and geographically illiterate lawyer

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Speaker 1: to be bamboozled for hours in the Kremlin has predictably

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Speaker 1: produced nothing. That's Trump's friend, what's his name? Who's in

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Speaker 1: charge of the Russia negotiations and the Middle East? It's

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Speaker 1: complete waste of time. By the way, the only way

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Speaker 1: Trump will get serious negotiations going is to threaten Putin

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Speaker 1: with ramping up not only sanctions but high grade, extensive

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Speaker 1: military aid to Ukraine. As long as that option is

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Speaker 1: not on the table, Putin will keep calling America's bluff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump will. Putin will stop when he's forced to

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Speaker 2: the end. Yeah yeah, you know. A good summary of

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Speaker 2: that long piece would be wake up or grow up?

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Speaker 5: Grow up.

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Speaker 1: America's great failing is that we everybody thinks like us,

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Speaker 1: over and over and over again.

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Speaker 2: That was George Bush's George W. Bush is great failing.

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Speaker 2: We'll just give him democracy and tell them how great

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Speaker 2: it is. Then they will do it. Yeah, we we

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Speaker 2: We hate the idea of US culture where the strong

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Speaker 2: can just take from the week whenever they want. There

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Speaker 2: are a lot of cultures that think that's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Get what's coming to the only conceivable choice, right like

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Speaker 1: like anything else is an interesting thought experiment if maybe

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Speaker 1: you're stoned or something. But let's be realistic. The strong

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Speaker 1: do what they will. The week do what they must.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we had to leave time for this, so Hanson,

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Speaker 2: our executive producer, crafted an AI tune about Joe earlier

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Speaker 2: in the show. We'll play a little of that for

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Speaker 2: you to smash hit. And now he's crafted a song

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Speaker 2: about me which I have not heard of him and

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Speaker 2: not looking forward to that is coming up next. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, I just got my final thought from a

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Speaker 2: CBS news headline. I saw, okay, that'll be my final thought.

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Speaker 2: So earlier we were talking AI and got on the

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Speaker 2: topic of like songwriting for one thing, because I I

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Speaker 2: asked chat GPT a question about a song I was

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Speaker 2: writing last night, which makes me feel horrible. I'll never

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Speaker 2: do that again in my life. And I did not

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Speaker 2: use the recommendation, but like, what is the point AnyWho?

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Speaker 2: Executive producer Hansen decided to craft a few songs through

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Speaker 2: a I and crafted one about Joe that goes something

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Speaker 2: like this and you just frank this up a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and this is my favorite kind of music. He gets

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Speaker 2: up every morning. Tell me why not. Everybody's dedicated his

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Speaker 2: home magistanis.

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Speaker 3: That's right, everyone to hear him last.

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Speaker 2: That's all last.

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Speaker 7: He's a master of metaphor and the wordsmith supreme.

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Speaker 2: But don't ask.

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Speaker 1: Him to work to hall.

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Speaker 2: It's right, all of leisure. He's the king. There I go,

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Speaker 2: I'm a chorus. Come on, Joey.

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Speaker 6: Joke.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's great, it's a fault man joke, Getty joke

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Speaker 2: that could have been on he haw ah, beautiful. So

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Speaker 2: that was Joe's song, which we heard earlier. I've not

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Speaker 2: heard anything we need to know about this answer. I

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Speaker 2: went with a more contemporary feel, okay, but I think

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Speaker 2: the music is something that you'll dig. All right.

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Speaker 1: He's a true all America, a patriot, father, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: He's weary.

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Speaker 7: He did just start this shoes and never finding him

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Speaker 7: drinking booze.

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Speaker 2: A family man, a hard working man. He grew up

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Speaker 2: in a heart land. He's no food.

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Speaker 7: He won't be fighting old bad boom.

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Speaker 1: The whooping cough, My get o, my gidd.

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Speaker 3: Unless he stops eating that greasy food.

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Speaker 7: Jack control whooping cough, My get o, my get unless

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Speaker 7: he stops eating that greasy food. Jack control whooping cough,

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Speaker 7: My gett.

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Speaker 2: Who because he stops doing that before the purser. But

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Speaker 2: know it's better than the fighting. He unless he stopped

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Speaker 2: seating that greasy food. Jack cowstrat lo.

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Speaker 6: There you go.

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Speaker 2: That is a very modern country song. Whooping cough might

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Speaker 2: get him wow handsome. One of the points being that, like,

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Speaker 2: how long did that whole thing take you once you

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Speaker 2: wrote the lyrics, which you could have had AI write

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Speaker 2: the lyrics, but once you wrote the lyrics. How long

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Speaker 2: did it take that cross? It was seconds and it

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Speaker 2: gave me two versions. There's another version, but we liked

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Speaker 2: that one better. That is just amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the irony, as we were chatting about earlier,

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Speaker 1: So AI is going to free us up from having

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Speaker 1: the works that we can write songs or whatever? What

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Speaker 1: the hell's the point? The AI is doing that too, right,

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Speaker 1: which they'll free us up to what grow tomatoes?

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Speaker 2: All right? I was compelled by an emotional situation to

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Speaker 2: want to write a song yesterday, and then what I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna have chat GBT write it. The whole artistics expression

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Speaker 2: thing is generally too I mean, what are you doing

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Speaker 2: letting it out?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hey, chat GBT? Could you ruminate on my life

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Speaker 2: for a while while I scroll through Twitter?

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Speaker 1: And I've talked to people a lot through the years

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Speaker 1: about you know why I bother writing and producing songs

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Speaker 1: that you know people will hear. It's because the process

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Speaker 1: is so satisfying. You start with silence and you end

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Speaker 1: up with a complete song and arrangement and everything and

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Speaker 1: sounds good at least in my ears.

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Speaker 2: And if that was just handed to you, well, then

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Speaker 2: what are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Or substitute writing same sort of thing. If chat g BT,

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Speaker 2: can you know, fix your poem in a way that

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Speaker 2: you can't, well, then what is the point?

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Speaker 1: Look what I wrote kind of sort of but I didn't. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about this. Yeah, well, so

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Speaker 1: does that that one book I read which was deep

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Speaker 1: in Thorny.

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Speaker 2: What was the name of that book I had for

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Speaker 2: you earlier? Deep Utopia by Nick Bostrom. I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're really into this topic, he goes really deep on

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Speaker 2: the meaning of mankind and how this could possibly disrupt

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Speaker 2: it and how rough it's going to be if we

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Speaker 2: don't need to work. He's assuming the sort of worst

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Speaker 2: case scenario, although plenty of people think it's best case scenario,

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Speaker 2: which I think you're nuts. The people out there who

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Speaker 2: think best case scenario is AI can produce better than

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Speaker 2: we ever could, will provide enough GDP and we can

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Speaker 2: all stay home and you know, play the guitar and

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Speaker 2: write poems and grow tomatoes. Our only purpose will be pleasure.

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Speaker 2: That'll right, right right, There's no chance that works out.

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Speaker 2: Final thought Great songs and gee oh yeah rocket, here's

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Speaker 2: your host for final thoughts, Joe Getty. So flascid.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the

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Speaker 1: crew draft things up for the week.

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Speaker 2: There is our technical director, Michaelangelo. Michael final tallet.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm on my way to a college graduation and

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be sitting on bleachers for several hours,

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Speaker 5: so hide outside.

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Speaker 2: It's one hundred and two of that.

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Speaker 7: I know.

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Speaker 2: We're going to see how this goes. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: people will literally be passing out.

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Speaker 1: Hi Kramba, Wow, Katie Green is off this. He can't

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Speaker 1: wait till she's back on Monday. Jack.

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Speaker 2: Final thought for we speaking of graduation is the thing

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Speaker 2: that made me so angry is I just saw the

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Speaker 2: CBS headline about how the Harvard president, speaking to the

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Speaker 2: Harvard graduating class yesterday, got a one minute standing ovation

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Speaker 2: from the class for his blasting the Trump administration. No

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Speaker 2: mention in the CBS news headline that Harvard finished last

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Speaker 2: this previous year in terms of academic freedom by the

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Speaker 2: people who ranked that sort of thing and their own

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Speaker 2: report about themselves showed them to be discriminatory and antisemitic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, that didn't Well, they didn't have time to

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Speaker 2: mention that in the news. Year you're in one minute

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Speaker 2: standing ovation. What are you talking about? My final thought.

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Speaker 2: To claim that a normally reasonable, rational and pragmatic Putin

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Speaker 2: with whom we can do business has suddenly become a

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Speaker 2: different person and gone crazy is insane in his self.

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Speaker 2: Putin is what he is and has always been. Armstrong

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Speaker 2: and getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. So

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Speaker 2: many people, thanks so a little time. Good Armstrong you

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Speaker 2: Getty dot com. Great pleasures, await you. God bless America.

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Speaker 5: He's no food, he.

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Speaker 7: Won't be fighting old bad boom.

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Speaker 2: The whooping calls my gettle, my giddle. Let's he stop

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Speaker 2: seating that greasy food jack.

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Speaker 7: Constro whoop and call my gettle, my giddle. Let's he

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Speaker 7: stop seating that greasy food check contro op and call

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Speaker 7: my ghettle my gettle.

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Speaker 2: Less he stop seating that greasy food jack.

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Speaker 7: Constro whooping, called my gettle, my get unless he stop

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Speaker 7: seating that greasy food jack.

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Speaker 2: On strone and done,