1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. Love's a fifty burger and 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: we got a couple today. Welcome to the Around the 3 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: NFL podcast, not from the Chris Westling podcast studio, but 4 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: remotely across the south Land. This is Dan Hansis joined 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: with heroes Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. Mark, you promised that 6 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: you'd be back despite the COVID and you were a 7 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: man of your word. Oh what a warrior. Yeah, what 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: a warrior? Um. Yeah, I got rid of that cough, 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 1: which I thought would be unpleasant slash unrewarding to anyone listening. 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: So that's mostly gone. So the rest of it. I mean, 11 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: I feel like a piece of junk floating through space, 12 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: but I can do so. M hm, space junk. We 13 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: just have you on for your look though. Mark. That's 14 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: like you can on mute and just be our our man, Candy. 15 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: I see what you want. So all right, Well, I 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: mean listen, we are powering through like the NFL. I'm 17 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:08,680 Speaker 1: not feeling great right now. Greg. Completely indestructible. I mean 18 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: that guy is even human. We've been asking that for 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: years and now we might have some proof. Um. But 20 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: Mark and I are both here, the whole gang together, 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: and yes, Week seventeen is nearly in the books now, um, 22 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 1: and yet the regular season has one more week to go. 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: But where we stand now things we have some clarity 24 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: after Sunday. We're gonna go through all the games as 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: we always do, of course, but we have let's see, 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: we have six of the eight divisions decided, so congratulations 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: to the Bengals, Titans, Chiefs, Cowboys, Packers, Bucks, um A, 28 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: f C East and the NFC West still to be determined. 29 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: And we have some playoff heat uh right now in 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: terms of the wild cards as well, which is a 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: lot of fun. We're gonna get into all of it 32 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: and um and usually Greg I like to have like 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: a throw it to rosent All to give us he 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: was like the prototype for the Karnecki Steve Karnaki, uh 35 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: and give us all the computations. But it's does that 36 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: guy even know football? I mean, I have questions you 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: those numbers, um, But it's fairly straightforward. The Colts beat 38 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: the Jaguars next week, they get a wild card spot. 39 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: Then you have the Raiders and Chargers playing next week 40 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: and they better be in prime time. That's a that's 41 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: a winning in most likely Arizona is gonna make it 42 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: in the wild card, and then you have Philly, New 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Orleans and San Francisco to those three teams are in 44 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: Am I missing anything? Greg? No, it's I believe one 45 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: of the quieter Week eight teams. Well it's the only 46 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: week team, but it's one of the quietest. It's also 47 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: the loudest weekend team as well. Right, it's I think 48 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: so much was decided on Sunday in such a manner 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: that there's not as much drama going into the final 50 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,399 Speaker 1: week as there could be. But that's fine. We'll still 51 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: have a couple of We'll have a couple of little things. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: It's nature. Wouldn't an extra week of football. Let's say 53 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: it went twenty five weeks, we'd get closer and closer 54 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: to having no spicy final week scenarios. So and I 55 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: think random, it's just random because of the results today, 56 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: how it fell. But there's still some pretty good stuff. 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: I'm there. You go, Greg, Ever, the company men and 58 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: Mark I imagine although disappointment the Cleveland Browns eliminated from 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: contention today, Um, it doesn't sound like you were looking 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: forward to a primetime game against the Steelers so much, 61 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: especially in your weekends. State physically now all that it's 62 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,960 Speaker 1: all just watching it for fun. I guess ah yeah. 63 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: Fun would be the keyword of tomorrow Night's Brown Steelers game, 64 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: but I I would. I would just say that, Like 65 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: one thing I've been saying all long is I want 66 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: the teams that deserve to get in there to be there. Now, 67 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: there's a couple of arguments for against some of the 68 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: people still in contention, but watching like Cincinnati, watching some 69 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: of these teams rise up, I don't need Cleveland and 70 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: know they didn't deserve it, they didn't earn it. Cincinnati, 71 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 1: you can knock out the Steelers officially on Monday night. 72 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: That is fine. Fun fun, I mean it's I feel 73 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,360 Speaker 1: like you're going to have more fun with that than 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: I am, because it's it's a dark note compared to 75 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: we worry where we were a year ago. Alright, I 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: was cheered up nicely to get into the Bengals. But 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: that's fine. I'm gonna move forward. I'm gonna process it 78 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: and see it didn't you by saying that you didn't 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: move forward, it was already ruined. It was already taken 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: away from me. But it's okay. We're just tied. It through. 81 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: I know you stick. You set it up beautifully. Mark, 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: I'm the point. I'm like Robert Salo in the postgame 83 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: press conference. I'm not saying who did it, but everybody 84 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: knows who did it. It was Mike Lafloor. All right, 85 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: Let's get to Cincinnati, where the Bengals made a statement 86 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 1: that they are a team to be reckoned with in January. 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 1: Two seconds left, this will be a twenty yard attempt 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: from the middle of the field to send the Bengals 89 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: into the postseason. Kevin huber Is ready catches the snap, 90 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: puts it down. The kick is yeah, gog. The Cincinnati 91 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 1: Bengal clinch the a f C North and prove they 92 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: can beats anybody as they rallied from fourteen down on 93 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: three separate occasions and beats the Kansas City Chiefs. No bongos. 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: Right out the gate, Dan Horde and Dave laplam with 95 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: a call for w c k Y and just unsolicited 96 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: advice production advice to the people over at w c 97 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: k W. Let's get some paramology Mikes on the field. 98 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: I want to hear Cincinnati going off in that spot. 99 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: Evan McPherson kicked the twenty yard field goal as time 100 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: ran out. The Bengals earned their first a f C 101 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: North title and playoff appearance in six years with a 102 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: truly wild win over the Chiefs. This was a game 103 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: where Jamaar Chase and an NFL rookie record and Bengals 104 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: franchise record with two hundred and sixty six yards receiving 105 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns and eleven k just Burrow through for 106 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: four sixties six and four scores. This, of course a 107 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: week after Burrow through for five what was it fifty 108 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: or five forties something like that. So I mean, listen, 109 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: this is where we are. The Bengals rallied from three 110 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 1: fourteen point deficits against the a f C West champion Chiefs, 111 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: who Greg by the way, had won eight straight before 112 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 1: this game. And now you look at the Bengals as 113 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: a team. Man, if they could beat the Chiefs in 114 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: a shootout like this, they could beat anybody. They really can. 115 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: They did the game plan in the second half that 116 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,479 Speaker 1: so many teams have tried, which is like, keep the 117 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: ball away from the Chiefs. It's like, that's good, but 118 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: you have to score touchdowns every time you have the ball. 119 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,039 Speaker 1: The Chiefs only got the ball three times in the 120 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 1: second half the Bengals not like they were playing slow, 121 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: but they go five minutes, um, they go four and 122 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: a half minutes, they go six minutes on their last 123 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: three drive. Score on them all. And the play of 124 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: the game is that third and seven to Jamar Chase. 125 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: I don't know how you leave. I think it was 126 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,479 Speaker 1: to our various ward in single coverage against Jamar Chase 127 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: on third and seven from midfield at a point when 128 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: you can get off the field. It was a crazy 129 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: set up. It was a great play though by Jamaar Chase, 130 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: great recognition by Joe Burrow, and I hate always making 131 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: it about the coaches. Ultimately, you need a quarterback and 132 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: a receiver who can convert that play, and they did it. 133 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Tony Dungee was going nuts on as much as Tony 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: Dungee can go nuts in any capacity, but he was. 135 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: He was fairly animated on NBC Football Night in America 136 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: pregame show. He couldn't believe the defense DA City and 137 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: stayed in not just on that play but throughout the 138 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: game and man coverage not giving the cornerbacks help, especially 139 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: on a day where Jamaar Chase went completely nuclear and 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: you knew anytime was throwing his way, it was going 141 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: to be a big play. I believe there were six 142 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: plays of thirty plus yards by Cincinnati's offense in this game. 143 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Mark Yeah. And it's you know, it's consistency now because 144 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: we saw it a week ago, we saw it against 145 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: the Steelers twice, we saw it against the Ravens in 146 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: the first game, and it's kind of what got me 147 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: excited about him way back when. Not me alone, but 148 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: it was like, there is no way to kind of 149 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: predict what the ultimate playing power of this Bengals team 150 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: is and what you see from Burrow over the last 151 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: two weeks. I get that we all agree that he's 152 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: a top five quarterback right now in an m VP candidate, 153 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: but it's like, there's no reason to think he couldn't 154 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 1: even double or triple in what he's doing. I mean, 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: he's unbelievable and their big playability. This has to be 156 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: a Chiefs team thinking, wow, this is what we used 157 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: to do to other people. We used to put them 158 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 1: into a fix that they could not get out of mentally. 159 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: And I like Zach Taylor at the end of the 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: game in the in the interviews, he was emotional Uh. 161 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: He said, you know, we've been through a lot, and 162 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean he he's hung on to a job status 163 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: last couple of years before this year, where I'm sure 164 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: that was not easy. But secondly said, we knew that 165 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: we had to go go in there and go for 166 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: it in tough situations. I think they've become much more 167 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: aggressive than they were at other times in the season 168 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: when they kind of took their foot off the gas 169 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: a little bit. And I'm with them that you come 170 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: out of this with this result. It should confirms something 171 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 1: to everyone because whether the Chiefs were still that high 172 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: water mark to beat them, it's not last year's Chiefs, 173 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: but they were as hot as anyone on defense, their 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: offense was heating up, and the Bengals went and outclass them. 175 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: I couldn't be more impressed. And I'm actually quite happy 176 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: for the Westlan clan, even though I joined the Wesleyans 177 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: and locking up the wrong team in this Yeah, we'll 178 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: get to We'll get to that in a minute. I 179 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: want to say one thing about Zach Taylor. They didn't 180 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: they didn't lock up the Chiefs to be kid, that 181 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: was me, that was me. We got a double I 182 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: cannot express to you how much I hated what Zach 183 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 1: Taylor did at the end of the game, fourth and 184 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: inches with under a minute left in a tie game, 185 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: Cincinnati decided to go for a touchdown, and instead of 186 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: kicking the McPherson field goal, and Joe Burrow throws incomplete 187 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: in the end zone, the Chiefs get flagged for legal 188 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 1: use of hands limp now Burrows limping limping on the sideline. 189 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: They called on Brandon Allan to uh neil twice and 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 1: then McPherson kicks the field goal, and I just I 191 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: don't know, man, I just couldn't. I couldn't believe that 192 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: they put themselves in that position. Imagine what happens there 193 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: if there's no flag that goes down and the Chiefs 194 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: takeover and win that game. But I guess there is 195 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: the other way to look at it. Again, like you 196 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: have so much faith in your guys. But I thought 197 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: that was crazy talk what they did there, and they 198 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 1: got away with it well, And there was a penalty 199 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,440 Speaker 1: to play before they went for it twice. You know, 200 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: there was offsetting penalties on the Chiefs and the Bengals. 201 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: It was. It was a crazy sequence. You know, they 202 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: were Romo was wondering if that they were intentionally not 203 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,840 Speaker 1: trying to score on the first two plays. I didn't 204 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: buy that, which I didn't. I think they were trying 205 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 1: to score, But I understood what he was saying because 206 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: if ever there was a let the other teams score 207 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: a touchdown, that that was a possibility for read there. 208 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: I actually think he made the right call because of 209 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: what happened, Like you could see what happened that still 210 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: keep playing defense, But I agree that was a crazy situation, 211 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: but it was a sign of how much more they 212 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 1: trust their offense than their defense. Um when you look 213 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 1: at the like the just the box score this game, 214 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: Chiefs have ten QB hits and four sacks. The Bengals 215 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: barely touched Patrick Mahomes and yet which is the quarterback 216 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: with four forty four yards. It really shows you, like 217 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,200 Speaker 1: how good Joe Burrow is under pressure. It's not like 218 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: his offensive line was playing well and he is willing 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: to stand in there and take the hits and Mahomes 220 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: even with a good running game today, I guess you 221 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: can't put anything on the offense. It's asking a lot 222 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: to be absolutely perfect. They had like eight drives and 223 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: scored thirty one points. But they weren't the explosive team. 224 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: I think you said it well there, Mark that they 225 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: they're not as an explosive as a team as the 226 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: Bengals have been this year. That was one of the 227 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: best games I've ever seen from a wide receiver Jamaar Chase. 228 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: His ability to um just use his speed to pull 229 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,199 Speaker 1: away from cornerbacks and safeties that have an angle on him, 230 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: His ability to make plays when a receiver has draped 231 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: down him in coverage, his ability to to find a 232 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: seam and then just disappear behind a secondary and take off. 233 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it was absolute dominance. And it does remind 234 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: you again that Joe Burrow, who I love this guy. 235 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: This guy Joe Burrow, He's so Funny's such a great 236 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: leader of a franchise. He pushed for his old college 237 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 1: teammate Jamaar Chase to be the pick, the first pick 238 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: five overall in April, and now he has, he has 239 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: his guy, and he's showing the whole world that as 240 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: good as pine silk can be, this was absolutely the 241 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: right move. After the game, um, Joe Burrow, who again 242 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: he plays a little bit of swagger and a chip 243 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: on his shoulder, was soaking in the glory. Yeah, And 244 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: I said it in the preseason, you know, I was 245 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: we were talking about playoffs, and I said, you know, 246 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the playoffs, and the easiest way 247 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: to do that as to win the division. And I 248 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: got a little Everyone kind of laughed at us a 249 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: little bit, but you know, we knew the kind of 250 00:12:58,120 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: team we have, the kind of guys in the locker 251 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: room that we had, and we knew we could go 252 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: and do it. M he's also in the locker room 253 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: afterwards doing like his lsu get the gat dances, He's 254 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 1: got a cigar. It's all amazing. It's easily the high 255 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: water mark of this Bengals team since they had so 256 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: much hope when Carson Palmer was young going into that 257 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and five season playoff game. And I think 258 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: right back to that season two, Carson Palmer was the 259 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,079 Speaker 1: third best quarterback in league kind of by consensus that 260 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: that year, it was Brady Manning Palmer, and now here 261 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: we are. I think Joe Burrow is gonna get some 262 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: m v P votes now he would be third. In 263 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 1: my mind, I still would have Rogers one, assuming he 264 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: finishes this out strong. I think Brady has just had 265 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: a better season overall in the in the breadth of 266 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: the season has to count. But I'm sure Burrow's gonna 267 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: get some love. But he's at least the number three 268 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: quarterback there right back there, and Chase he mentioned he's 269 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: gonna win the offensive rookie there because of today. If 270 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: there was any doubt about it, and I think there 271 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: was going into this week, he's gonna win it. Sorry, 272 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: it also excuse me, that's it also shows you are that. Yeah, 273 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, get rid of that. That's what nobody needs it, um. 274 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: But I mean back in the preseason, like the Burrow 275 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: Chase thing was getting killed for the idea that like 276 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: it's too cute to team up with your with your 277 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: college wide receiver, you know, roommate, and trying to get 278 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 1: the team to do that when you could have had 279 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: this like stalwart left tackle. Burrow's knee was an issue, 280 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: Chase wasn't playing well back in the summer, and months 281 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: later it's totally transformed. I do want to see if 282 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: anything comes out of this Burrow injury that we saw 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Look fine walking around, 284 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know. It wasn't and it also wasn't 285 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't the surgically your parre need. That's good. 286 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: The fact that he wasn't getting treated after the game 287 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 1: and he was dancing, that was a good sign. Um. 288 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: And you know some speaking of signs, Greg, I think 289 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: you should have taken a sign. Mark. You're off the 290 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: hook on this because you were involved in the conversation. 291 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: But speaking of signs, I did give you a sign 292 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: Greg that maybe it was time to get behind the 293 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: Bengals on Thursday's podcast, let's listen to I don't feel 294 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: like this is the five Bears. This is not the 295 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: two thousand Ravens. And I could see Borrow moving. I 296 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: like a shootout here, Greg, and I like I like 297 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: the bangles and like win. That changes the temperature in 298 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:18,160 Speaker 1: the a f C s right right, You don't You 299 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: don't get them playback Thursday prediction unless you get the 300 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: score right. That's that feels like a fair rule to 301 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: follow on the show. We're incredible work. This is really 302 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: more for Mark because you also buried him in the 303 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: lock standings with this one. Well, you know, I did 304 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: a bad job. I honestly, I wouldn't have I would 305 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: have taken an l because I completely forgot about it, 306 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: um outside of going for like a Monday, and I 307 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: think Dan asked like, did you do a lock? And 308 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: so eight minutes before well you also, I think psychologically 309 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: pushed me into a scenario. I was panicking looking at 310 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: like eighteen spreads that had moved into un unlockable territory 311 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: by Sunday and picked his chief's team, and I was thinking, like, 312 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: why did I do that? Shaking your head. She doesn't 313 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: even get why you're throw that at me. I mean 314 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: it was a logical thing. They were up, they were 315 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: up two touchdowns, you know, multiple type of game. I 316 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: have stopped seeking any form of enjoyment. I told you 317 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: that I did go. I went from two games down 318 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: to two games up in four weeks, so believe me. 319 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: Like you've been tweeting about it all day long, I 320 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: think everyone is extremely aware, like, oh, do I have 321 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: a chance of getting the most locks in a season? 322 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,960 Speaker 1: Like is this guy actually tweeting this right now in 323 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: live time? It is an unbelievable The answer is no, 324 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: because I just thought that the Hubris was on like 325 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: next it was like next level, we get it. You're 326 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: doing well in an in house pick them tournament. We're 327 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: very excited for you. I just asked the question at 328 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: thirteen and four. You didn't just ask a question. That's 329 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, it's like Mr Control guy, like 330 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: it was an absurd poor sportsmanship tweet. Anyway, Greg, while 331 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Mark melts down, I want to tell you that the 332 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: record is seventeen wins in a season, set by you, sir, 333 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: last year. So I would have to do I guess 334 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,679 Speaker 1: win out, but you know what are you gonna do? 335 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: But I have buried Mark and that's good. Let us 336 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: now take a break and then continue on. Tayler takes 337 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: the snap short set, lobs it deep near side of 338 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: the one yard line. Oh want to catch Antoine Wesley 339 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 1: into the ends off for a touchdown? How did he 340 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: pull that down? And how about the toss? Like Kyler Murray? 341 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: A huge score for the Cardinals early in the third, 342 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: A huge score by the Cardinals, A huge win for 343 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals who beat the Cowboys. Great stack. Kyler 344 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: Murray now eight and oh lifetime, going back to his 345 00:17:56,160 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: high school days at Jarro World. And this was a game, 346 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: Greg where you just got the feeling that the Cardinals 347 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: needed the game and the Cowboys get back into the 348 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,399 Speaker 1: touchdown two point conversion. Yes, there's a fumble at the 349 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: end that some good luck comes the Cardinals way because 350 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: of a time out situation with Dallas, But really Arizona 351 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: was in control of the game throughout and it felt 352 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: like a game they deserved and they got it. They did. 353 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: And sometimes you know, we like get so in the weeds, 354 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: like trying to analyze everything, and there was a lot 355 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: in this game. The fourth down aggression from Arizona was important, 356 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: the aggression to try to score at the end of 357 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: the first half was important. But it was also like 358 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: their playmakers made plays like in the biggest spots. Wesley 359 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: making that catch was amazing. Kyler Murray more than anyone, 360 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: making some of his third down conversions were not as scripted, 361 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: they were just him making a play. Chase Edmonds, who 362 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: got hurt late in this game and so they didn't 363 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 1: have James Conner in the end. They didn't have Chase 364 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: Edmonds at the end of this game, but he made 365 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: some massive plays. They never did get Rondale Moore back 366 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: for this game. They're down two corners and two of 367 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: their best pass rushers to injuries and COVID and these 368 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: these are new injuries. This was one of the more 369 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: impressive performances in a big spot I think by a 370 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: team all year because of what they didn't have, and 371 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury set the tone. I think by going for 372 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: it on fourth and goal, you would have been killed 373 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: if they didn't get it, and Kyler Murray made a 374 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: nice play on the goal line. They score there, and 375 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: like I mentioned at the end of that first half, 376 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:38,679 Speaker 1: uh and Kyler in a big spot that drive you 377 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: mentioned Dan, it was just when it felt like maybe 378 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: this thing is gonna go away, because it felt like 379 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: they were playing uphill. He leads them down the field 380 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: kills the clock. It was an awesome performance and keeps 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: them alive in the NFC West. I'm with you, I'm 382 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: totally impressed. It didn't need to look entirely pretty. UM. 383 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I do come out of it though, UM all credit 384 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: to the Cardinals with just lingering concerns about the nature 385 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,400 Speaker 1: of their offensive times, they still seem sloppy and out 386 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: of it. It points and I'd even point to that 387 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: final clock killing drive where it started with Murray totally 388 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: missing a wide open Christian Kirk there was what I 389 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: thought at one point a delay of game call that 390 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: should have gone against Arizona, which would have been huge, 391 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: which wasn't. But then he sprinkles in an incredible run 392 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: for a first down. A great throat is zaccurate. So 393 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: it just seems to me a bit the journey with 394 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and this offense is a bit of an 395 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: up and down ship at times. But they got out 396 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: of there today. So I had mentioned the play, uh, 397 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: the fumble that wasn't and I'll just give it a 398 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: little more context. So last a little outside the two 399 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 1: minute warning, and that's important here because that means it 400 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: doesn't get stopped by the booth. It has to come 401 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: from a challenge. And Dallas was out of time outs, 402 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 1: and they were out of timeouts because earlier in the 403 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: game and an obvious field goal situation, it seemed for 404 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, Cliff Kingsbury ran out Kyler Murray at the 405 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: same time as Matt Praydor and the Cowboys were confused 406 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: and they had to burn a time out, um because 407 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: they were a little out of sorts. So now they 408 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: had zero timeouts. Uh, and then Chase Edmonds. I think 409 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: it's a player got injured down near the sideline when 410 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: the ball pops out, his knee was up, his elbows 411 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: were up recovered by the Cowboys right before the two 412 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: minute warning. The call probably would have been overturned, would 413 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 1: have been Dallas's ball down three with two minutes to play, 414 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: but because they couldn't stop and challenge, that was a 415 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: huge setback. And just those are like those little things. 416 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: But also because Mike McCarthy blew it, and not because 417 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: he took the time out earlier, because he took the 418 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: time out with about two forty to go. And that's 419 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: not a second guest multiple game management. You know, people 420 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 1: are like you never you don't take the time out there, ay, 421 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: you lose your your ability to challenge. But he also 422 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: didn't save as much time as he could have. So 423 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: it's just these things that you know, how they used 424 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: to have the go when to go for two note 425 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 1: card that everyone like looked at. We need a note 426 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 1: card for these coaches for like when to time take 427 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: time outs around two minute warning because he had to 428 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: wait until after it like and that and that was 429 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: that was That's one of the reasons why it's very 430 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,520 Speaker 1: It's just like when if if the Cowboys. Now they're 431 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: a full game out, their chances of getting the one seed, 432 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 1: um are not good at all. Obviously they're done. They're 433 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: they're done, Okay, so their methods, So think about that 434 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: when they're on the road in the playoffs. Uh. You know, 435 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: these things can can change seasons potentially. Uh. That really 436 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: stood out to me as well. Right, they could be 437 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: playing in l A. If the Rams win next week, 438 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: the Rams get the two seed, and now you know, 439 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: the Cowboys could be playing on the road in the 440 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 1: divisional round two. I am a little worried about Dak 441 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 1: Prescott again. There was a couple of decent drives late 442 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: in the game, but he did not have a good game. 443 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: You know, he missed a lot of throws, just like 444 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 1: it just was. It was more on dec it felt 445 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: like for a good chunk of this game than anyone 446 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: else on the offense. And I'm just I'm just surprised 447 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 1: to see it just doesn't look sharp. And I don't 448 00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 1: know if it's an injury or what, but it's just 449 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: not going where he intends it to go. And Michael 450 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: Gallup suffered a torn a c L. According to Jerry Jones, 451 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna try to confirm it on a second test. 452 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: But that that's about on a touchdown catch too, which 453 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: is uh, you don't see that too often. So that's 454 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: did not trust Greg's or line. I think Greg's or 455 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 1: line is gonna kill him in a big spot at 456 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: some point here. Yeah, it's fair. Um, all right, let's 457 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: now move on. Let's head back to the a f C, 458 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: a game with huge playoff ratifications. The Raiders had a 459 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: chance to shock the a f C, and they did it. 460 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: This will be a thirty three ardor this is for 461 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: the win. Cold check his kicker, good hole, Yes, perny 462 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: check pot perny Man. You know we lost John Madden 463 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: last week and uh, obviously a legend. Brent Musburger also 464 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 1: another guy that kind of when I hear his voice, 465 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: I think about what it meant to be a sports 466 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: fan and the eighties, nineties, and then here's Brent Musburger 467 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two calling big wins for the Raiders. 468 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Treasure are icons and broadcasting anyway. The Raiders are up 469 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: to five walk off wins this season, five walk off 470 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: wins in one season. Latest was their biggest and most 471 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: impressive win over the Colts at Lucas Oil Stadium, sealed 472 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: by that Daniel Carlson field goal at the gun. Three 473 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: straight wins for the Raiders, all of them now narrow wins, 474 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: all of them against a f C hopeful's and the Raiders, 475 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: as we said at the top of the show, can 476 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: complete their probable journey to the playoffs with a home 477 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: win over the Chargers in Week eighteen. Pasacchi a bump. 478 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but I have to say, like, 479 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: I don't care what happens next week. They can lay 480 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: an egg, lose twenty seven to three. I I come 481 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: out of the would feel good. That'll make this feel 482 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: like like I listen, get it, I'm saying. I guess yeah, 483 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe that would be a bad taste in your mouth 484 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: to end the season. But to win all three of 485 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 1: these games against teams clawing for the playoffs at a 486 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: time where they look completely dead, I said it myself. 487 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: I was talking about them after they lost in the 488 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: Chiefs like they're a joke at this point. They win 489 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: three in a row, and this one I thought was 490 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 1: truly impressive because the Colts had been rolling as we 491 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 1: all know. I'm amazed. I'm amazed by this result, I 492 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't be like the Colts putting up two 493 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty two yards of offense. It's not like 494 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Whence his numbers were like incredibly bad. But he threw 495 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: for under five yards per attempt and his big play 496 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: was that long touchdown that should have been intercepted to 497 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton. So that's a bad game. So we 498 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: we we've heard from many players and there's no way 499 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,439 Speaker 1: we'll know, but we've heard from many players. Okay, it's 500 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 1: great to get off the COVID list quickly, but some 501 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 1: of them aren't feeling too great, and that first game back, 502 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: um they have and been at great shape. Wentz would 503 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: not even admit that he felt poor earlier in the week, 504 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: even though his own coach said that Wentz was struggling 505 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,439 Speaker 1: earlier in the week with COVID. So it's like, just 506 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: be honest. I don't know why you can't be like 507 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: honest with your with your condition, you know, and asked, 508 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: like it's become this weird thing where like I think politically, 509 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: like you're trying to just not even be honest. But 510 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: it's a it's a big loss, uh for them, if 511 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: only because they're gonna have a worse seed in the 512 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: playoffs assuming they win next week. Well, it's a terrible loss, 513 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: and I mean, you have to play next week. They 514 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: probably would have sat their players, right, I don't know, 515 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: it's possible. I mean, the Raiders come out of this 516 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 1: last two weeks before this game having scored sixteen and 517 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 1: seventeen points. Gotta win in both I look at Wentz 518 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 1: and I don't care what he answers, like he did 519 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: not look the same to me at all, And I 520 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: do think there's a lingering effect, and I understand why 521 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 1: it's difficult for him to answer the question. But what 522 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: a momentum killer. I mean, this team felt like, you know, 523 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: and it just speaks to the new nature of the 524 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: a f C, the up and down, topsy turvy ride 525 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,159 Speaker 1: that it is that you know, five days ago the 526 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 1: felt Cults felt like the most surest thing around, and 527 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,400 Speaker 1: now they're gripping, they're hanging on for their life. It's 528 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: funny too, because if they take care of business next week, 529 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: beat the Jaguars. They finished ten and seven, the Titans 530 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: obviously clinched the division, So it's gonna end up in 531 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: a way that this game doesn't really matter to the 532 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,000 Speaker 1: cults that they were gonna be locked. Kind of take 533 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: it back. It's not that big of a game other 534 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: than they don't get the rest. But still you kind 535 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: of lose a little of that juice. And I think 536 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: the Wentz thing beyond any lingering issues symptoms connected to 537 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen UM. Also, he didn't practice all week. And 538 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: I thought the turning point of this game UM occurred 539 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: late in the third quarter. UM. It was a third 540 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: and seven at Indias twenty three. UM. It was actually 541 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: the first play of the fourth quarter, and Winz has 542 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: t Y Hilton on a busted coverage wide open down 543 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: the left, stride, left side. If he hits Hilton and 544 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 1: stride he he is, there's a good chance he goes 545 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 1: in UM for its touchdown. Instead, he over he overshoots Hilton, 546 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: who again was all by himself, and they kicked the 547 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: ball away. Turns into a three and out. They kicked 548 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: the ball away and the Raiders go but right down 549 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 1: the field six place sixty two yards score the go 550 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: ahead touchdown. Now Indie marched down the field on the 551 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 1: next drive and tied it with the field goal. But 552 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,719 Speaker 1: that to me felt like the turning point. And again 553 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: when you think about the Colts, and like the Colts 554 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 1: when they're locked in and Wentz is playing well or 555 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: as good as any team in the league, but there's 556 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: too much of this inconsistency with Wentz where you do 557 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: feel like unless he gets on like an Eli Folsy 558 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: and type heater in January, one of these type of 559 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: games is gonna undo them in January. You just kind 560 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: of can feel it coming. I mean we we reacted 561 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: as a as a collective group very positively and very 562 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,600 Speaker 1: with a lot of force to his performance before the 563 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 1: previous game, where he was throwing the ball as well 564 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: as anyone. I think it matters. If you track these 565 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are out with COVID, that don't practice at 566 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: all all week long and then they go play, you're 567 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 1: getting get their debt. There's some of the most down performances. 568 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, I you know, I want to 569 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: go look at that scientifically, but to say that it 570 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: just doesn't matter not I think we're agreeing that it does. 571 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: Like I mean, at the most critical juncture of the year. 572 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what happens playoffs, seating wise and 573 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: stuff like this was a momentum killer for the Colts, 574 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: and I mean it's like you do question their quarterback 575 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: play if they don't get a better performance. Meanwhile, Cark 576 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: is in a bad turnover stretch here. He had a 577 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: couple of interceptions here today, but they really have had 578 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: something going in the fourth quarter, they go touchdown field 579 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: go there to win the game. Car you know, has 580 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: held up this franchise like this, this was this has 581 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: been a nice season for the Derek Carr in Las 582 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: Vegas in Oakland Raiders legacy. He's like, I don't know, Ricky, 583 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: you saw him in the postgame press conference that there's 584 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: something about him, like, I know he's not a perfect quarterback. 585 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: I think he's on the right side of the Dalton 586 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: scale h Dalton line, but not not to me too far. 587 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: I think he's in that like twelve to fifteen range um. 588 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: But I do like the confidence, Like you, there's a 589 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: certain genus quah. Yeah, that's what I texted you, guys. 590 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: I was like, cars kind of hot, like his like 591 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: swag and and everything, and he's like he's feeling himself 592 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm kind of into it. Yeah, 593 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: that dude, he carries himself as a remember, he's never 594 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: he's never got to do this. He's never got to 595 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: do this. They have one winning record right since two 596 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 1: thousand three, and the one good season he had, he 597 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: broke his leg, you know, with a couple of weeks left, 598 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: and so he didn't get the like, this is the 599 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: best late season experience he's had, and he's earned it, 600 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be in in primetime next week. I'm 601 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: pretty sure they haven't announced as we say, but that's 602 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 1: got to be the Sunday night game. Chargers Raiders, come on. 603 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: I like the Chargers. I like Justin Herbert. He'd be 604 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,760 Speaker 1: fun in the playoffs, but like, I'd be cool with 605 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders in this crazy season doing it as well. 606 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: And they have a chance. They're at home against the 607 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: Charger of the team that's not really known for stepping 608 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: up in a big stop, big spot themselves. So that's 609 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: gonna be a really fun game to watch, and I 610 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 1: really hope it does play out with all the the 611 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: way things kind of sort themselves out in we K 612 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: teen with a winning in true winning in scenario, making 613 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: it the first playoff game of the season. All right, 614 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: let us take a break here, uh and then check 615 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: in with the Tennessee Titans. Which side hands to hill 616 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: Yourn He's got wrong, Son Trull touchdown. Okay, exclamation points 617 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: on the day on the day is right? How good 618 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: is this feeling? It has to feel good for Titans fans. 619 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: Dontrelle Hilliard goes thirty nine to the house, Deonta Foreman 620 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two in a touch Ryan Tannehill through 621 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: throws two touchdown passes. That was Mike Keith, of course, 622 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: and Dave McGinnis of w g f X. The Titans 623 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: clinched their second straight division title with the thirty four 624 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: three win over the Dolphins, whose seven game winning streak 625 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: disappeared in the face of actual opposition. And here we are. 626 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 1: The Titans go from red hot start two mark a 627 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: team that could not get out of its own way 628 00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: offensively too. With one week to play, they aren't in 629 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: position with the number one seed in aves. Yeah, they've 630 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: They to me have been a team that have stuck 631 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: together through some of the most trying circumstances in the conference. Today, 632 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was an exclamation point again for their 633 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: defense that never really went away the way that their 634 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: offense did. And they just wanted, I think to show this. 635 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: The weather in this game was a huge factor and 636 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: one quarterback was could come out faring better in freezing rain, 637 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: um total downpour, and they put it to two. I 638 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: think that their plan with Miami was to get the 639 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins into unmanageable third and long situations which happened over 640 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: and over and Toua maybe down in South Beach gets 641 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: you out of some of those in this situation. Today 642 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: against this defense, he could not do the worst third 643 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: down offense in the league. They looked it this way, 644 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: and to your not believing in them, Dan, this is why. 645 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: Because the offense when you don't have something perfectly happening 646 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: for them, they crumbled. And I thought that you could 647 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: look at some of the guys on this Titans team, 648 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: Deontay form, and I'd start with him the way that 649 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: he has run the ball over the last month and 650 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: a half, but especially today, I thought he put it 651 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: to Miami in a way that like basically demoralized them. 652 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 1: They their defense, which looked strong out of the gate, 653 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: started to crumble because and it wasn't a huge A J. 654 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: Brown game. I think he had forty yards in this 655 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: but Tannehill ran for a big first down. The running 656 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: backs did it. You know, they had some up and 657 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: down issues with their line. But Miami, to to me, 658 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: was completely outclassed and shown to be what they are, 659 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: which is sort of one dimensional. When their offense does 660 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: just enough and their defense does everything else, that's fine. 661 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: But they couldn't get it done today. And the Tennessee's 662 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: Titans are so clearly the better operation and they knock 663 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: Miami right out of the playoffs. M Well, you have 664 00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: a small margin for air when you start. When you 665 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 1: start oneing the you're one and seven whatever they were. Uh, 666 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: that's a tough spot to get in. But to to 667 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,399 Speaker 1: lose thirty four to three when you're you're two similar teams, 668 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean, this is like the classic Titans game. They 669 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: have three hundred yards, they have a hundred and ten 670 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: yards passing, and they put up thirty four. I'm not 671 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: saying Derrick Henry isn't extraordinarily valuable, but to your point, Mark, like, 672 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: they've run the ball really well. That's what they do well. 673 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: It's a good run blocking offensive line. It works with 674 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: their play action offense, it works with Tannehill, and they've 675 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: survived without Henry, like the running game was never a disaster. Yeah, 676 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: and even with A. J. Brown not having a big game, 677 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: he's just such a He changes the way defenses have 678 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: to approach the Titans, and and and opens things up 679 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill. Julio Jones didn't play in this game, 680 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,120 Speaker 1: but we know that that's not a big deal at 681 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: this stage. Let's bring in a grave digger, Um, grave digger. 682 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations, I know that you ride or 683 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,800 Speaker 1: die for your Titans. Uh. And this had to feel 684 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: good because I did. I locked up the Titans in 685 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: this game, but I certainly didn't see them rendering the 686 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: Dolphins non competitive, which really just speaks to Tennessee really 687 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,240 Speaker 1: turning it on here. I predicted a win for the Titans, 688 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: so I also did not see this kind of I mean, 689 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: to Gregg's point, like they only had three hundred yards 690 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: of offense. It wasn't like they were marching up and 691 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: down the field the whole game, but they just looked 692 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 1: like the playoff team with it was like one of 693 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: these two teams could make the playoffs. The Titans are 694 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 1: the ones that looked like the playoff team. I think 695 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 1: they have been better coached there. The Texans, and they 696 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: were they just want a playoff game. This was you know, 697 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: this was like like this and they gotta beat the 698 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,720 Speaker 1: was it the Texans? Next week they got at Houston. Yeah, 699 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: Houston could be tricky there, but you should take care 700 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: of business. And I just think it's such a interesting season, 701 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: great grave digger for Tennessee too. If they can now 702 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: come all the way back around and get that number 703 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: one seed, get the buy have home field advantage, and 704 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: this always felt like and by the way, Derrick Henry 705 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: then gets more time off to get right without the 706 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: Titans playing a game like if they could just survive 707 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: the storm, they are set up well for the playoffs. 708 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: And I know you're feeling yourself. You know how. I 709 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 1: know because first of all, two things. Number one, Titans fans, what, 710 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: I love you great dude, you know that. But why 711 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: can't Titans fans understand that that people, whether it's me 712 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,439 Speaker 1: or anybody else, that doubted your team earlier, when they were, 713 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: you know, averaging a hundred and seventy yards a week 714 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: for about a month and a half, doubting them then 715 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: isn't the same as what we see in them now. 716 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why It's like everyone's like pulling up 717 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: receipts and showing that you were wrong. You doubted art No, 718 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: because the Titans I was a different Titans team without 719 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,279 Speaker 1: a J. Brown, and that we're gone. This version of 720 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: the Titans I feel good about and and I like so. 721 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: I don't like that element of the Titans fandom and 722 00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 1: a lot of them have been coming out of the 723 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: woodwork again, but I do like you. Grave Digger getting 724 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: after friend of the show Aaron Shots of Football Outsiders, 725 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,600 Speaker 1: who he replied to some Titans fans attacking him about 726 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: his analysis this season, and Graver responds, listen to this, Greg, 727 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: because I know you and Shots are tight. Are you tight? 728 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,480 Speaker 1: You know each other? Yeah? Okay, we know each other 729 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 1: going way back, all right. I mean, give me a break, dude, 730 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,520 Speaker 1: Graver says, just admit your system didn't predict anything accurately 731 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: and we'd have a lot more respect for you. Bunsen 732 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,680 Speaker 1: Burner bloetwards. Baby, Here's the thing. All season long, since 733 00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: the begetting of the season, he's been tweeting about the Titans, 734 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 1: and he never has any good things to say about 735 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: the Titans. They like, don't measure up well and d 736 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,080 Speaker 1: v o A and all these other things. So it's 737 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: constantly like the Titans are defying d v o A, 738 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 1: not like maybe we should really look at how d 739 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,319 Speaker 1: v o A is used to assess teams, or maybe 740 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: like when injuries happen, like there should be a caveat 741 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,359 Speaker 1: to like the d v o rings like this isn't 742 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: there starting eleven on either side of the ball for 743 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: the majority of the middle part of the season, right, 744 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 1: But it's never like, oh, Wow, the Titans are impressing us, 745 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: They're playing better than we expected. It's like, this is 746 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: the worst d v o A rated team to ever 747 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: be in the one seed and they suck. It's like 748 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,399 Speaker 1: a quote tweet something. I was like, oh, you got him, 749 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 1: and then I looked and the tweet was from September eight. 750 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, yeah, well he was doing 751 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 1: little like the Titans defense is not going to improve 752 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: this year, and he's never said like, wow, this is 753 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,360 Speaker 1: this is surprising. The Titans defense has improved way beyond 754 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,640 Speaker 1: what we predicted. It's like we never said that. We 755 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: said the Patriots would improve more than the title. The Titans. 756 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:45,600 Speaker 1: Discourse and in general is fairly annoying. Okay, um. But 757 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,280 Speaker 1: at the same time, like Titans fans who are looking 758 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 1: like getting even with people that now their team, screw it, 759 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Why do you have better things to do? You have 760 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: a locked in loading team that is ready for the 761 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: playoffs right now, and you're gonna have more because everyone, 762 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 1: you know, when the Titans get that one seed, the 763 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: conversation for two weeks is gonna be like, oh, which 764 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: lucky team can angle to get that divisional round matchup 765 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 1: against the Titans because no one's gonna want to go 766 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: to Kansas City or Buffalo. You know, people are gonna 767 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: be talking about the playoff tournament as if like that's 768 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,359 Speaker 1: that's the nice place you see, So it's coming more 769 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 1: because he will be back by then and people, I 770 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: think for a lot of people who are down in Tennessee, 771 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,280 Speaker 1: that that will be like the reinforcement that really puts 772 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,320 Speaker 1: them in the in a higher class. That's just the 773 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,240 Speaker 1: way I see. But maybe we have something numbers can't measure, 774 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,359 Speaker 1: and I think that's what's great about football, Like they 775 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: really are more than the some of their parts. The 776 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,359 Speaker 1: fact that they've played more players than in any team 777 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL is remarkable. They are 778 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,839 Speaker 1: so obviously more than the some of their parts. When 779 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: you watch them, we can week out. I would say 780 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,839 Speaker 1: Mike Rabel doesn't get the credit he's deserved if if 781 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: Titans fans are annoyed about that, because I think he 782 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: doesn't fit the pristine sort of shiny boy mathematical um 783 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: you know, Wong head image that everyone's after these days, 784 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: like he's just sort of a bro. But sometimes that works, 785 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: and he clearly knows how to go week to week 786 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: with different matchups. And as for fans coming at any 787 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: of us, I mean, the Titans have been disrespected for 788 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: a really long time. They could be more level headed 789 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: about it, I guess, but I think half of them 790 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: are probably you know, it's East Coast, it's they came 791 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: out of a terrible rain. They're probably tweeting with like 792 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,919 Speaker 1: seven beers in them, and they may not have their 793 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 1: wits about them in terms of where they're setting their arrows. 794 00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, we've got our own, uh you know, producer 795 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: head shooting arrows at at a friend of the show. 796 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: So everyone that's losing their cool baby, all right, Well 797 00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 1: that's fair enough, all right, congratulations, great there, all right, 798 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,960 Speaker 1: let's take uh, let's know, let's not take a break. 799 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:47,920 Speaker 1: Let's keep moving. Let's bring Nick Schuck into the show. Chookie, 800 00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: we go from grave digger to the pipe. How you doing, Buddy, 801 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm good. I mean, despite the general despondence where I'm located, 802 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: I'm great. Yeah, okay, Well, well how are you by 803 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,879 Speaker 1: the Browns eliminated from contention? But I know, like Mark, 804 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 1: you were frustrated by this season? Uh an outcome you 805 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 1: probably saw coming, a negative outcome for the season that 806 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: is yeah, I mean, Mark said it best last week. 807 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 1: It's not deserved. You know, if they were to try 808 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs and you know, the Bengals were 809 00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: to lose, and you know, because the Ravens lost, and 810 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 1: if they were to beat the Bengals somehow next week, 811 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,880 Speaker 1: it's still not deserve. So this is the outcome that 812 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:24,560 Speaker 1: they deserve. That they screwed around for a lot of 813 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,799 Speaker 1: the season, never really found any consistency, and that's how 814 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: you get eliminated from the playoffs. And and you know, 815 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: I allow me to be a beacon of hope for 816 00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: the city of Cleveland real quick. I'm wearing this on 817 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: purpose because everybody here is going to turn their attention 818 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,839 Speaker 1: to the other team. It's it's it's an all Star game. 819 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,560 Speaker 1: But they're going to turn their attention to the promising team, 820 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 1: the team that's overachieving, not the team that is disappointing. 821 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,400 Speaker 1: You're wearing Cavaliers shirt, you know for our audio listeners, 822 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,560 Speaker 1: which is all of ours. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's something 823 00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:00,400 Speaker 1: else can be happy about. You know, how about those Guardians? Right? 824 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: I was texting with Chuck about Darius Garland from Tuesday 825 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: Night a few weeks ago. This guy can really play. 826 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna do these games. Then we're gonna 827 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:12,759 Speaker 1: get Shook's take on the Cleveland Indians name change. But 828 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,799 Speaker 1: let's get to a little Chargers football. They needed to 829 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: take care of business against the beat up Broncos team. 830 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 1: Did they throws down field? There's your shot play Mike 831 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:30,400 Speaker 1: Williams cood into the end zone touchdown shargers a record 832 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: breaking throw from just Justin Herbert. Thirty fifth touchdown toss 833 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,839 Speaker 1: of the season is now a franchise record. And why 834 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: not go to Mike Williams who has got more forty 835 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,240 Speaker 1: plus yard touchdown catches this season than any other receiver. 836 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: About that, Matt money Smith, the Voice of God for 837 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast and the Power Rankings TV 838 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: show co host with a nailed it call Justin Herbert. 839 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,640 Speaker 1: He set the rookie touchdown record in year one, he 840 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: sets the franchise record in year to what happens in 841 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: the year three, we'll see, But for now, the Chargers 842 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,240 Speaker 1: are still in the playoff mix after a win over 843 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: the Broncos at so far a great take care of 844 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: business game right here, Nick Shook for a Chargers team 845 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 1: that stubbed their toe and exactly this type of game 846 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: so many times in the past. Yeah, and stop there 847 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: telling the last couple of weeks with a stunning, disappointing 848 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,840 Speaker 1: loss to the Texans that kind of threw everything into question. 849 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,680 Speaker 1: But they responded like a team that you would, you know, 850 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: a playoff team, you'd expect them to respond by coming out, 851 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: like you said, taking care of business. So the Broncos 852 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: were shorthanded, you know, they had a dozen guys out 853 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: because of Covid and Drew Locks playing quarterback and even 854 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: he had to exit for a little bit because of 855 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: a shoulder issue, and you give him credit for coming back, 856 00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 1: but um, you know that aside, the Chargers largely dominated 857 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: this game. They did it offensively. It was really a 858 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: complete team win because they did a good or of 859 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: job defensively to allow their offense to build a lead. 860 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,719 Speaker 1: They took a seventeen and nothing lead right before the 861 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: half and ended up going to halftime seventeen to three, 862 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: and it was never really in question. They got a 863 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 1: couple of goal line stops or or holds that limited 864 00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: the Broncos chances of turning those possessions into touchdowns, and 865 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: they cruised to a victory and set themselves up with 866 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: a date with the Raiders and if they play like 867 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,239 Speaker 1: they did today, then they got a good shot. But 868 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:25,200 Speaker 1: the Raiders are better than the Broncos. But for this 869 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: week at least, you know they're they're back to the 870 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: Chargers that I think we expected that. The question now 871 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: is can they be can they maintain that consistency into 872 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 1: a must win game next week? I mean, I feel 873 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,240 Speaker 1: like the Broncos season was defined by those fourth, fourth 874 00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: in goal plays here in this game, Like when you 875 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,960 Speaker 1: have Kendall Hinton completing the past that drew lock on 876 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: fourth and goal from the one or the two that 877 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: doesn't go for a touchdown, you know it's probably not 878 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: your when Kendall Hinton came in. What was that like 879 00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 1: a Philly special type of thing, and yeah, and then 880 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: he throws it to Lock who catches it, but he 881 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: wasn't in the end. Does anybody want it? Now that 882 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: I'm looking at the box score, that was his only 883 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: attempt at the game, Kendall Hinton. If you go for 884 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: one for one for one yard, uh and no touchdown? 885 00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,080 Speaker 1: What is your passer rating? This will be something good 886 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: to know. According to the box courts point too. You're right, 887 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,120 Speaker 1: and it absolutely defined the Broncos season this year, which 888 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: is frustration. Um. You can see the potential, it's just 889 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,799 Speaker 1: that they don't execute. There's questionable decisions in terms of 890 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: play calling or or scoring. A touchdown that gets wiped 891 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,400 Speaker 1: out by a penalty and you have to settle for 892 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,239 Speaker 1: a field goal and what's already a multi score game. 893 00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: It made it twenty to six with an office that 894 00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: couldn't convert already. Get Aaron Rodgers, Ticabo, do the old 895 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: secret meeting figure out. I don't know if it's Rogers 896 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,400 Speaker 1: or maybe there's another veteran quarterback, because I think I 897 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 1: think we all kind of want to see at this point, 898 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,279 Speaker 1: Greg I think a term that you like to use. 899 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,160 Speaker 1: It will confirm your priors that the Broncos are good. 900 00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: They just need that next level of quarterback play another 901 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,680 Speaker 1: season where that's kind of defined the conversation a little 902 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: bit around this, right, but also like who knows what 903 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: I know? On paper? This defense and secondary looks good 904 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: and it is good, but it's like Vic Fangio is 905 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 1: not gonna be running the defense anymore next year, So 906 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,840 Speaker 1: then to me, that's a start over. I would assume 907 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:17,720 Speaker 1: after three straight losing seasons, which this clinches that he's out, 908 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, you've got some good skill position players for 909 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,320 Speaker 1: sure for the next coach and the next quarterback, assuming 910 00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,279 Speaker 1: they're not on the team. I mean, you cannot have 911 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,080 Speaker 1: Vick Fonio and Pat Shermer going to Cabo to court 912 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. It's going to have to be a completely 913 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: new cast of people that someone like in Aaron Rodgers, 914 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: who's moving his entire brand to another team, is going 915 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,359 Speaker 1: to believe in. And I'm not sure that coaches right 916 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,359 Speaker 1: now they're also saw the team by the way, Well 917 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,399 Speaker 1: that's that's part of you. I've seen I was gonna say, 918 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 1: I've seen Elway in Indianapolis who knows what goes down 919 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: and always down in Cabo. It must get it must 920 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: be a wild scene down. I'm sure it gets Chargers 921 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 1: locked down of here, Chargers locked out with all the 922 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:58,080 Speaker 1: injuries and the Broncos this week, and they deserve it. 923 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: They needed a little luck. They deserve the charges of 924 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,279 Speaker 1: one of those organizations that you should never you know, 925 00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,000 Speaker 1: hold it against them. They got a w uh and 926 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 1: a little luck. All right, let's move on, shook ee 927 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: uh to Orchard Park where another team was looking to 928 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: looking to take care of business. We will need a 929 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,600 Speaker 1: touchdown here and the gun the stamp to Allen hands 930 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: it off. Singletary, driving forward, gets down to the one 931 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,319 Speaker 1: yard line and he is stopped. Just shure. Now it's 932 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 1: a touchdown, a late call by the officials, but it's 933 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: a touchdown for the Bill, a six yard touchdown run 934 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: by Devin Singletary. Let's see, that's classic play by play. 935 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,800 Speaker 1: Guy moved there, I didn't mess up that guy messed 936 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: up late call. John Murphy w g R. With that call, 937 00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: an accurate call, wasn't on him. The Bills clinch a 938 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 1: playoff spot. Devin Singletary scores two touchdowns in the second 939 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 1: and half making up for a sloppy performance from Josh Allen, 940 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,960 Speaker 1: who had multiple turnovers but didn't matter win over the Falcons. Thankfully, 941 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: thank god, Shookie, the Falcons are eliminated from playoff contention. 942 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: But I suppose a little frustrating as a Bills fantasy 943 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: Allan throw three picks a week after that magical performance 944 00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. Yeah, you know, we we spend time 945 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 1: in digital space talking about m v P race, as 946 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: we have for this year and last year and many 947 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,440 Speaker 1: years before that. And I often get crushed because Josh 948 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: Allen never makes it into like my top three. But 949 00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: this is the type of game that explains why he 950 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:32,879 Speaker 1: doesn't make it into my top three. He's a great 951 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,160 Speaker 1: player and they rely on him a lot, but occasionally, 952 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,160 Speaker 1: and I know there was snowy, but you're the Buffalo Bills. 953 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 1: You should expect to play in snow Occasionally relying on 954 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen goes poorly. It's just that, you know, I'm 955 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: glad we played that clip because that's really what to find. 956 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,120 Speaker 1: The win for the Bills is being able to rely 957 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,799 Speaker 1: on the ground game, something that they really refused to 958 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,640 Speaker 1: do for a lot of the season unless it was 959 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: Josh Allen running the football until the last couple of 960 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: weeks they've gotten back to giving it to Devon Singletary 961 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,480 Speaker 1: and establishing more of a traditional ground game, and I 962 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: think it's bounced out their offense and it's helped them 963 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,920 Speaker 1: in cases like today where their quarterback is erratic, throws 964 00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 1: a few really ugly interceptions and one that just was 965 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: a product of of a risky throw that he's known 966 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: to take from time to time, and but they were 967 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: still able to win. And you could say, you know, 968 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 1: you can give them a ton of credit for doing 969 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: it offensively and going to the ground game, but it's 970 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: also a reflection of how much talent that the Falcons 971 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: still need when they don't have Kyle Pitts in the field, 972 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,480 Speaker 1: because he wasn't available in the second half and they 973 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball. They had seventy seven total yards 974 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: in the second half um after losing Kyle Pitts, essentially, 975 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 1: so they need more weapons. And they've been a scrappy 976 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,000 Speaker 1: bunch and and they've been fun to watch, I guess 977 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,520 Speaker 1: at times, just because they play hard. But in games 978 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: like this, that talent difference ends up being the difference, 979 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,280 Speaker 1: and it was today. You know, I think Arthur Smith 980 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 1: is dealt with that all year long, and he's dealt 981 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 1: with it creatively, um when there isn't a lot of 982 00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:49,799 Speaker 1: options for your creativity. So I'd give his first year 983 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: coaching there um a positive grade. But I would ask 984 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 1: you this because we just said, oh, if you if 985 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 1: you could project enough, you could say Carson Wentz in 986 00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279 Speaker 1: Indianapolis has like a Joe Flacco Super Bowl run type 987 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: run with Josh Allen, he's an m VP candidate going 988 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: into any any season. Do you think, though, that we 989 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,879 Speaker 1: can get three straight performances from Josh Allen that are 990 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: pristine enough to avoid something like this because in a 991 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,759 Speaker 1: playoff game, they're out if this happens. Yeah, you know 992 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: that's kind of the wild card. Last year, you would say, Yes, 993 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,120 Speaker 1: this year, it's been up and down. I mean it 994 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 1: really has as a team, and this is probably the 995 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: lowest point he's had, I think, all year. But that's 996 00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 1: who they've been. You know, in terms of final score. 997 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: They blow out a team like the Dolphins one week 998 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: and then you know a few weeks later they lose 999 00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: a close ener, they lose to the Jaguars. They've been 1000 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,920 Speaker 1: very up and down, So it's kind of difficult to predict. 1001 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: I think over time with his progression, you would expect 1002 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 1: if he's still with Brian Dable and they have a 1003 00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 1: little bit more of a balanced offense because you're lying 1004 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 1: on him to throw it, you know, forty times and 1005 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,880 Speaker 1: run fifteen times. It's gonna work sometimes against some teams, 1006 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,200 Speaker 1: but I don't think it's really the reliable formula. Then yeah, 1007 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,160 Speaker 1: maybe that does happen, but it's just right now, not 1008 00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 1: with this season, I couldn't say that. I mean, this 1009 00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:01,480 Speaker 1: was the classic Josh Allen caam. Every possession was an 1010 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: interception or a touchdown. That's that's just insane. Is there 1011 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,560 Speaker 1: a chance here your Jets can help out the Patriots 1012 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:12,040 Speaker 1: next week? Because for a minute there the Falcons were 1013 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: ahead in this game. I was thinking, wow, because the 1014 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,480 Speaker 1: Bills lose, because the Bill is still you know, are 1015 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,120 Speaker 1: winning the a f C East, but it's not up 1016 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,279 Speaker 1: It's still up for grabs going into weeks seventeen, and 1017 00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: I anticipate both the Bills and the Patriots will be 1018 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: playing obviously to win, and so the Patriots would need 1019 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: the Jets to pull off like a huge upset. I mean, 1020 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,000 Speaker 1: the Jets game very close to pulling off the biggest 1021 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 1: home upset and team history today, so it's certainly within 1022 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: the realm of reason. The Falcons also are like, yeah, 1023 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: there's seven and nine, but there are a whisper away 1024 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,000 Speaker 1: from being four and twelve or three and thirteen. They 1025 00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: are not a good team at Also, I guess there's 1026 00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: that's a pretty disappointing win, but who cares. It's a win, 1027 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,680 Speaker 1: and the Bills are still in position uh to win 1028 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: the a f C East uh if they take care 1029 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:58,560 Speaker 1: of business on week t All right, Chuck, I'm not 1030 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: gonna ask you about the Cleveland baseball team uh name change. 1031 00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 1: I just don't think it's the right platform for you, 1032 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 1: and I don't want to put you in a tough 1033 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: spot one way or the other. So I'm just gonna say, uh, 1034 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: you're a great Cleveland sports fan and the people are happy, 1035 00:52:13,560 --> 00:52:15,759 Speaker 1: lucky to have you over there. You know you're It's 1036 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,879 Speaker 1: a great business decision out of you, because the last 1037 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,919 Speaker 1: thing you want to do is alienate some listeners who 1038 00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 1: feel very strongly about that or don't really care at 1039 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 1: all about baseball. So this is a football podcast, and 1040 00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: we'll keep side stepped at side, stepped in a big spot. 1041 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,279 Speaker 1: All right, Chuckie, thank you buddy for joining U S S. 1042 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:34,520 Speaker 1: Stay warm and uh it was always next year. Yeah, 1043 00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,440 Speaker 1: that's true and there is thanks. All right, let's take 1044 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,600 Speaker 1: a break and we sold. John Stevenson to the left 1045 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,799 Speaker 1: of Jones takes the snaff of playfi I through oh 1046 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: puts down Patriots and he goes to Wilcrops a fourth 1047 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: second touchdown catch up to day. Keep this kid active. 1048 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:02,399 Speaker 1: Oh man, you see a little somebody outside. Uh, Bob 1049 00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,560 Speaker 1: Sochi and a man named Scott with the call for 1050 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,440 Speaker 1: w b Z. Patriots are back in the playoffs. Rookie 1051 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: quarterback Mac Jones through three touchdown passes actually set the 1052 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:19,080 Speaker 1: franchise record for a touchdown passes in a season. Uh. 1053 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: He only needed to throw twenty to do it, and 1054 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,840 Speaker 1: he did. Damian Harris's Damian Harris and Ron Dre Stevenson 1055 00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: both scored twice on the ground. Final score fifty to 1056 00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 1: ten over the Jaguars and m Mark. We talked about 1057 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: this on Thursday's podcast. If ever there was like the 1058 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,799 Speaker 1: classic Patriots destroy a bad team that's ready to go 1059 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:44,319 Speaker 1: home scenario, it was the Jaguars at home. Uh, so 1060 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,440 Speaker 1: fiften is not surprising to many of us. But I 1061 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: guess let's give them credit. They're not doing it with 1062 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:54,239 Speaker 1: Tom Brady anymore. So there's just something the way this 1063 00:53:54,320 --> 00:54:01,600 Speaker 1: team UM practices, prepares h that separates them from others. Yeah, 1064 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,359 Speaker 1: I think all that's true. You got um a very 1065 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: clean game from Mac Jones, who threw a couple of 1066 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:09,200 Speaker 1: great touchdown passes in this. You got a guy like 1067 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkerson who's barely played for them, getting involved with 1068 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. The running game was on fire. I think 1069 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,000 Speaker 1: their defensive backfield could essentially look at Trevor Lawrence in 1070 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: this offense and assess what they were trying to do 1071 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:24,080 Speaker 1: on almost every play. You are playing the worst attack 1072 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL. It looked like it. Trevor Lawrence was 1073 00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: underwater from the very beginning. Um, you don't have James 1074 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 1: Robinson in the backfield, and you know, about twelve minutes 1075 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,280 Speaker 1: into this, I was thinking, Oh, this is going according 1076 00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:39,040 Speaker 1: to script in every possible way, it's going to project 1077 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: out as a blowout. It did exactly that. New England 1078 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: scored on I think eight of nine drives. They were 1079 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,880 Speaker 1: forced to punt once. It was just utter and total dominance. 1080 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,920 Speaker 1: They controlled both lines of scrimmage and I you know, 1081 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,799 Speaker 1: I don't want to bring up Trevor Lawrence over and over, 1082 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: but it has been such a bad season that you 1083 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: just wonder where he is a mentally. I mean, we 1084 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: know New England's very good against rookie quarterbacks, but the 1085 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 1: level of dominance today was like these two teams were 1086 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,600 Speaker 1: not playing in the same field or in the same sport. 1087 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: I mean, his receiver group is um among the worst 1088 00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 1: position groups in the entire NFL, not just receiver position groups, 1089 00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:20,480 Speaker 1: just any position. The drops, the like mental mistakes every 1090 00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:24,319 Speaker 1: week is is brutal to watch. Uh and they they're 1091 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,440 Speaker 1: probably a lay down for the Colts in a similar 1092 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 1: big spot next week, like they did the first time 1093 00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,960 Speaker 1: they play the Colts. It's quite an accomplishment, I think 1094 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:35,040 Speaker 1: for the for this Belichick rookie quarterback team to get 1095 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 1: to ten and six. Here you've got a chance to 1096 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 1: go to eleven and six. It is disappointing. Obviously they 1097 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:40,759 Speaker 1: didn't show up in some of their biggest games of 1098 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,400 Speaker 1: the year, but it is quite a rebound from what 1099 00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,839 Speaker 1: where they were a year ago. Uh And they'll they'll 1100 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: be dangerous like I'm with Scott Zolak on this one point. 1101 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: If only this Keith Wokers in active in the playoffs. 1102 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 1: I've seen enough of Nikil Harry. Oh, I know we 1103 00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: we cracked crackdown blocks on the Running Game. Okay, that's great. 1104 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,720 Speaker 1: I saw Wilkerson in the preseason. He made some place 1105 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,880 Speaker 1: here today. It's like they need they need any good 1106 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 1: playmaking pair of hands and get And you look at 1107 00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,560 Speaker 1: the a f C East. The Bills have a one 1108 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: game lead, right are they tied? They're tied, Bills have 1109 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,840 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker. We talked about the Bills. They have the 1110 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 1: Jets the Patriots at Miami, and that's an interesting game, 1111 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: um for New England. Um. But the good news is 1112 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: for Patriots fans, which I guess Greg is one of 1113 00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:33,200 Speaker 1: them still. But you know we've talked about that on 1114 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 1: the show. It's unclear it eliminates a nightmare scenario where 1115 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:41,399 Speaker 1: the help they got today there in the dance, they 1116 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,279 Speaker 1: get some help from the Bills, So be it. If 1117 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,759 Speaker 1: they don't. These teams could very well. I think it's 1118 00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,279 Speaker 1: set up right now Bills Patriots Round one of the playoffs, 1119 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,479 Speaker 1: and I don't think it matters. As we've seen where 1120 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:54,759 Speaker 1: that game is played, considering the teams split winning in 1121 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,320 Speaker 1: each other's stadium. So I think we all want to 1122 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:00,600 Speaker 1: see a third matchup between those two teams. Uh. And 1123 00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,280 Speaker 1: I wonder if it's kind of a uh, I don't 1124 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,080 Speaker 1: it's happening here, It's gonna go down. It would go 1125 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,960 Speaker 1: a long way to PUTT into bed. I think an 1126 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: argument that we've had about these two teams as a 1127 00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:15,799 Speaker 1: trio all season long, I mean it's it's we need 1128 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: to see a third one. I'd love to see Patriots 1129 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,840 Speaker 1: Bengals or or Patriots Chiefs even more than that, just 1130 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:23,320 Speaker 1: because I think that would be fun. By the way, 1131 00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 1: the Bengals had a Gholston today. It's been a while. 1132 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: I check every game Gholston of course, no sacks, no 1133 00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:33,040 Speaker 1: quarterback hits. Congratulations. Wait can you clarify for me, because 1134 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 1: I again I don't even know sometimes with the Patriots 1135 00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: stock what you mean, like, what do you want to 1136 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: avoid the Bills because you don't think it's a good 1137 00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: matchup or because you would watch it would be a 1138 00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 1: more fun matchup if they're playing. I've seen that twice. 1139 00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: I think the Bill's best game um is really high 1140 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: level and like, I've seen that game, and to me, 1141 00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 1: Patriots Chiefs would be a lot of fun and Patriots 1142 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,640 Speaker 1: Bengals would also be fun. I I don't need another division, 1143 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 1: you know, third time around on You're scared of the Bills. 1144 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,160 Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm reading. I would I would agree. 1145 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: I think Guess'd be scared of the Bills. But I 1146 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,280 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs like are a tougher matchup. But there 1147 00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:11,120 Speaker 1: would be something about that that would just be intriguing 1148 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,360 Speaker 1: if they could ever have a chance there with mack Alright, 1149 00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: so let us now move to some intro league football 1150 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: in Baltimore. Throws caught front pylon, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Ala 1151 00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. Gives the Rams their first lead with 1152 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: fifties seven seconds remaining in Week seventeen. Thinking about that 1153 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 1: springtime social J B. Long post draft, you're having a 1154 00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,160 Speaker 1: couple of maybe he's drinking a white Claw, I'm drinking 1155 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:55,960 Speaker 1: a Tito's with our beautiful families, just living it up 1156 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,840 Speaker 1: in southern California. One of the strangest recurring bits going 1157 00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,800 Speaker 1: right now. J B. Long, k Y s R. With 1158 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,400 Speaker 1: the call I think I might have heard m J 1159 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: D in the background there and Matthew Stafford through a 1160 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,880 Speaker 1: seven yard touchdown pass to Odell Beckham Jr. With fifty 1161 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: seven seconds to play. That came after Stafford and Beckham 1162 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: connected on a fourth and five to keep the game 1163 00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: alive four of the Rams and the Ravens could not 1164 00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: respond in their ensuing drive. They lose their uh fifth 1165 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:32,560 Speaker 1: straight game and the final score was nineteen. Thank you, Greg. 1166 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 1: Another sloppy performance Gregg by Stafford, but he delivered when 1167 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 1: it mattered. He did that drive to take the lead 1168 00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,640 Speaker 1: was the moment like you bring Stafford there for and 1169 00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,680 Speaker 1: I know you can say like he's the reason they 1170 00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: were trailing and he was a big reason. He had 1171 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,120 Speaker 1: three turnovers, they were all his fault. It wasn't like 1172 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,520 Speaker 1: he had bad luck. He played well in the second half. 1173 00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Like they had to play very clean and nearly perfect 1174 01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,840 Speaker 1: on offense because they were not getting the ball very often. 1175 01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,919 Speaker 1: The Baltimore Ravens offense just kept grinding up these long 1176 01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,919 Speaker 1: plays like a fourteen play drive, a twelve play drive, 1177 01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:13,760 Speaker 1: a fifteen play drive, a nine play drive. So Stafford 1178 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:15,680 Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of chances and they had to 1179 01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: finish touchdown touchdown to win the game, and he did it, 1180 01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:25,200 Speaker 1: including a fourth down play to Odell Beckham before the touchdown, 1181 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: you know, with the game essentially on the line, and 1182 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,520 Speaker 1: Beckham makes a fantastic hands catch and Stafford, you know, 1183 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: moves out of the way of pressure. Is like an 1184 01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,360 Speaker 1: incredibly clutch play. And this Rams team has shown an 1185 01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:41,240 Speaker 1: ability now this last month to win a variety of 1186 01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,480 Speaker 1: types of games and come through in the fourth quarter. 1187 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:46,680 Speaker 1: And they're trying to kind of build their their culture. 1188 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 1: I guess their identity of this Rams team, and I 1189 01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 1: think they got a feel now when they get into 1190 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: these tough situations that they're gonna come out with victories. Yeah. 1191 01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: I think the biggest X factor for them was overcoming 1192 01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 1: Stafford mistakes, and they weren't able to do that in 1193 01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:02,960 Speaker 1: the loss to Tennessee. They weren't able to do that 1194 01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,439 Speaker 1: when they were stumped by the Niners way back when. 1195 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: And this is a game that kind of shows, look 1196 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,280 Speaker 1: at he cannot, he can. He will be imperfect. You're 1197 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:11,840 Speaker 1: gonna get a game in the playoffs where he's going 1198 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: to be imperfect. I mean, he is sort of that 1199 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: dude that throws pick six is he throws interceptions and 1200 01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: little rogers has his whole career, right. I mean, he's 1201 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 1: also thrown more than all but three quarterbacks since nineteen 1202 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 1: fifty during his career, So it's a thing. I mean, 1203 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 1: I know a lot of that happened in Detroit. But 1204 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 1: if you're a Rams team that wanted to find a 1205 01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,920 Speaker 1: demoralizing loss late in the year, that would have put 1206 01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: us back into a weird place with you, you go 1207 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:38,160 Speaker 1: to Baltimore and you lose on the East coast. This way, instead, 1208 01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: they found their way out of it and it included 1209 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,240 Speaker 1: a new face like Odell Beckham. I think that matters. 1210 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: And I think their defense, I mean, I know that, 1211 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,240 Speaker 1: you know, Baltimore had their way with them to a 1212 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 1: bit today. In general, the Rams defense gives me a 1213 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,600 Speaker 1: ton of hope. They're very balanced on both sides of 1214 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,840 Speaker 1: the ball, and I have no problem with winning ugly 1215 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:57,240 Speaker 1: in what early January we're gonna mine into mid January 1216 01:01:57,280 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: here before the playoffs, I'm fine with it. Maybe this 1217 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,280 Speaker 1: is maybe it's time to just recalibrate expectations with O'Dell 1218 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,120 Speaker 1: Beckham that he's just never gonna be a guy who 1219 01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,440 Speaker 1: puts up Justin Jefferson type lines or or what we 1220 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: saw Jamaar Chase today, he's just not a consistent, elate, 1221 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,800 Speaker 1: elite playmaker like he used to be. But again, I 1222 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,320 Speaker 1: think he's up to what four or five touchdowns now 1223 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,400 Speaker 1: with l A. It seems like he scores once every 1224 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 1: game and otherwise unremarkable box score. But he has become 1225 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: a red zone threat and a weapon for them what 1226 01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: he never was with Cleveland. So that has been at 1227 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,520 Speaker 1: help for them. We still have the opportunity potential cam 1228 01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: akers around the bend. Sonny Michelle has really played well. 1229 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:39,480 Speaker 1: Cooper cut in an off game for him go six 1230 01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: and one. So I think the Rams, Yeah, it is Stafford, 1231 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:46,280 Speaker 1: somebody you just lock and load and be like, Okay, 1232 01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,560 Speaker 1: he's ready for the playoffs. No, But like I have 1233 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,760 Speaker 1: him the same class as Josh Allen. Well, Josh Allen's 1234 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: a better player, But what I mean is Josh Allen, 1235 01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Matt Stafford. These guys that are talented but 1236 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: sometimes enigmatic pipe type players that can obviously go on 1237 01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: a heater or in the postseason. And could I imagine 1238 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,560 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford having a killer postseason and then riding it 1239 01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:11,520 Speaker 1: all the way to the Super Bowl. And I totally 1240 01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,880 Speaker 1: can see that. So again that's why you go get 1241 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,360 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and they're set up here for all the 1242 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: trials and tribulations of the season. They're twelve and four 1243 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: and they have a chance here they can get Can 1244 01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 1: they get up to one or they Well, as we 1245 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: take this, we're going to assume the Packers finish out 1246 01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: the Vikings here and then that'll clinch the one seed 1247 01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:35,760 Speaker 1: for the Packers. So they're they're the Rams are at 1248 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,080 Speaker 1: two there, they haven't won the division. They can do 1249 01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,280 Speaker 1: it next week. They can't have these three turnover games 1250 01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,080 Speaker 1: from Stafford. He's done back to back weeks. I know 1251 01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,040 Speaker 1: they've won, but in the playoffs, I don't know if 1252 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 1: you have that margin for error. But I do like 1253 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,880 Speaker 1: like like you said, Cup, this was in theory and 1254 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 1: off game, but he stepped up, getting open huge plays 1255 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,880 Speaker 1: at the end, making plays after the catch. Ramsey had 1256 01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:59,480 Speaker 1: a nice game. I'd like to see. It's clearly not 1257 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,080 Speaker 1: the past and game that that peak Rams could be 1258 01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,200 Speaker 1: because this is an underman Ravens secondary and they were 1259 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:09,360 Speaker 1: not taking advantage of it. Um for chunks of this 1260 01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:11,520 Speaker 1: game that the Ravens kind of backed off. I think 1261 01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: that surprised them they were playing conservative. But Donald, we 1262 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 1: keep saying it week after week, like he changed this game. 1263 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:23,920 Speaker 1: His pass rush pressure on Huntley prevented a wide open 1264 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,080 Speaker 1: touchdown in the first half. He gets a sack to 1265 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:29,120 Speaker 1: end to drive in the red zone. At the end 1266 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,480 Speaker 1: of the game, the Ravens were basically on the doorstep 1267 01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,680 Speaker 1: of scoring a touchdown and almost putting this thing out 1268 01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,680 Speaker 1: of out of bounds. And then that's the moment where 1269 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,040 Speaker 1: Donald steps up and it was just like another just 1270 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:43,160 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald. You probably weren't gonna win the game if 1271 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't for Aaron. He's defensive player of the Year 1272 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:52,960 Speaker 1: for me. We talked about it all the time. The 1273 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,840 Speaker 1: old frances Is Um seasons unstopped. Left at Thanksgiving novem 1274 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens out last the Brown sixteen ten, a game 1275 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,320 Speaker 1: in which uh Lamar Jackson threw four interceptions, but they 1276 01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: still won. And at that moment they were eight and 1277 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,959 Speaker 1: three on novembery Now you fast forward to January two 1278 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 1: or eight and eight, and now need to win in 1279 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,840 Speaker 1: week eighteen and get help or they end up out 1280 01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:20,560 Speaker 1: of the playoffs entirely. It's it's pretty it's pretty wild. 1281 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:22,960 Speaker 1: What's happened to the season, but not if you've been 1282 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: following it week by week. Not particularly surprising because they 1283 01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:31,000 Speaker 1: just have been absolutely assaulted by injuries and COVID and 1284 01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:34,360 Speaker 1: the lamar ankle injury, which was obviously more serious than 1285 01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,440 Speaker 1: they initially let on. That's how they got where they 1286 01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 1: are right in the in four of those losses are 1287 01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:47,200 Speaker 1: by the last four losses are by a combined six points. 1288 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,400 Speaker 1: That's outrageous and we'll probably have well, they're probably have 1289 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:52,680 Speaker 1: four wins that combined by six points too early, right, 1290 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: that was early in the season. But I'm just saying 1291 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,680 Speaker 1: to do this in such a short stretch where you 1292 01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,360 Speaker 1: lose by one, lose by two, lose by on, and 1293 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,080 Speaker 1: then lose by one, it's too bad. Huntley, you can 1294 01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,640 Speaker 1: see he's a pro quarterback, like he's a starter. He 1295 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:09,000 Speaker 1: made a couple of mistakes today that that hurt them. Um, 1296 01:06:09,160 --> 01:06:11,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't quite as good a game from him. Uh 1297 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: in this game, like he still looks good, um, and 1298 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: he looked like he belonged. But he he had a 1299 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680 Speaker 1: couple of plays he wanted backgrounds that could have won. 1300 01:06:18,720 --> 01:06:22,040 Speaker 1: It would have helped my fantasy team that went down 1301 01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:25,280 Speaker 1: in the finals today. But well, We'll take that second 1302 01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:29,120 Speaker 1: place prize money and we're off. We're off. We were 1303 01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,480 Speaker 1: happy with the way things turned out overall. Just disappointing. 1304 01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:35,000 Speaker 1: But I know a lot of people were. When you 1305 01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: see this on game pass, there were a couple of 1306 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,560 Speaker 1: players where he could have had more points. They were, 1307 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,680 Speaker 1: don't tell us, don't tell me, I don't. It wouldn't 1308 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:42,959 Speaker 1: have mattered. My poner put up one seventy five. It's fine. 1309 01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,760 Speaker 1: We move We've moved forward. We're professionals. Here on to 1310 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:51,520 Speaker 1: not great timing for this, onto the meadow ends. Ready 1311 01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: to go, Brady with twenty three seconds to go, but 1312 01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:56,680 Speaker 1: snap a good one, Brady, Look at Coxy up Those 1313 01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,320 Speaker 1: toward the ends all receive all but call ball touch 1314 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:03,280 Speaker 1: stop top bye, touchdops hamba bye. Bucketeers tech the lead 1315 01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: for the first time. Brace makes the catch of the 1316 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:14,520 Speaker 1: end zone. Bucketeers lead, Tom Brady, you're terrific. See it's 1317 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:19,000 Speaker 1: about the delivery, Like when Gene decker Off says Tom 1318 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:23,600 Speaker 1: Brady or terrific. That's nice. I like that. Um when 1319 01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:28,360 Speaker 1: another announcer goes, I'll love Tom Brood, it doesn't carry 1320 01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the same warm but at that there's a lacking of 1321 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:36,800 Speaker 1: a panache there with um. The second individual, a man 1322 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 1: named Scott w f Us Jane dagger Off. Antonio Brown 1323 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,480 Speaker 1: walked away from the Bucks, but luckily they still have 1324 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady the Goat lead the Bucks on a ninety 1325 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: three yard drive in the final minutes, culminating with a 1326 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:57,200 Speaker 1: thirty three yard touchdown strike to Cyril Gracing, stealing over 1327 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:01,680 Speaker 1: my Jets. The Jets had a UM two touchdown lead 1328 01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:06,720 Speaker 1: in this game. UM, and it was a tough one, 1329 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 1: and we're gonna get to the game. But let's start 1330 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:11,280 Speaker 1: with the Antonio Brown stuff, because obviously this was the 1331 01:08:11,360 --> 01:08:16,720 Speaker 1: huge story of the early games. It was everywhere Brown had. 1332 01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It's still unclear as of this taping what set him off, 1333 01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 1: but he had a meltdown late in the third quarter. 1334 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:27,160 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay was trailing at the time. Cameras caught him 1335 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:30,920 Speaker 1: in an animated discussion with Mike Evans. Evans was trying 1336 01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 1: to calm down Brown, but instead Brown stripped off his pads, jersey, gloves, 1337 01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:38,839 Speaker 1: t shirt, tossed the gloves and T shirt into the stands, 1338 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:43,240 Speaker 1: and then walked completely bare chested down the sideline into 1339 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,000 Speaker 1: the end zone, which, by the way, it should have 1340 01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,719 Speaker 1: been a penalty, but we're not gonna dwell on anything 1341 01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like that. He then waved to the fans, jogged through 1342 01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,559 Speaker 1: the end zone into the tunnel at MetLife Stadium, apparently 1343 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: left the stadium without a shirt on. And after the game, Um, first, 1344 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,080 Speaker 1: I respect reulation that he was benched, and he melted 1345 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: down because of that. But then there was talk on 1346 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:08,120 Speaker 1: Twitter that he wasn't even benched, but something set. Jay 1347 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,439 Speaker 1: Glazer reported that Arians at one point he was already 1348 01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:15,760 Speaker 1: upset for some reason that is unclear. Arians, you know, 1349 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,760 Speaker 1: put him in the next play. I guess he was. 1350 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,919 Speaker 1: I guess he was like on the sideline and Arians, 1351 01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, put him in the next play, and he 1352 01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,640 Speaker 1: refused to go in, and then Arians asked again, and 1353 01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,320 Speaker 1: then the next play, and at that point when he 1354 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,720 Speaker 1: did he refused to go in, he said like you're out, 1355 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,240 Speaker 1: You're you know, okay, and then he melted down. So anyway, 1356 01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,920 Speaker 1: Arians after the game, obviously, the first question is not 1357 01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:37,719 Speaker 1: about this great comeback. It's about Antonio Brown walking out 1358 01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: in the middle of a game. Here's what Arians had 1359 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,840 Speaker 1: to say. He is no longer a book. All right, 1360 01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:44,240 Speaker 1: that's the end of the story. Let's talk about the 1361 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 1: guys who were not doing one game. See, but it's 1362 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:51,080 Speaker 1: not that easy, Bruce. It is not that easy because you, 1363 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,599 Speaker 1: Bruce Arians and you Tom Brady, and you the Tampa 1364 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:59,320 Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers um created this situation by looking the other 1365 01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:03,360 Speaker 1: way over over when Brown was clearly a loose cannon. Now, 1366 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,000 Speaker 1: I think there's something interesting with this, and Mark, I'll start, 1367 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:10,639 Speaker 1: I'll tee you up on this. I wonder, obviously Antonio 1368 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,519 Speaker 1: Brown seems like he's not the greatest guy. But sometimes 1369 01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,160 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's like a mental health component here 1370 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: that makes this maybe not as straightforward as like everyone 1371 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: just saying clown in this guy for being a total idiot. 1372 01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,320 Speaker 1: It's sometimes it feels like, to me, with someone's behavior 1373 01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:27,599 Speaker 1: that there's something wrong with him. And then you hear 1374 01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,479 Speaker 1: Brady's comments after the game that we're he was expressing 1375 01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:33,920 Speaker 1: concern about Brown's well being. That's a part of this 1376 01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,200 Speaker 1: conversation that I feel like you're not hearing a lot of. 1377 01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:39,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I I do think that when we look 1378 01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,040 Speaker 1: at Antonio Brown and you look at what happened on 1379 01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: Hard Knocks with the Raiders, and you know, there's a 1380 01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,360 Speaker 1: littany a laundry list of things that have happened with 1381 01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:49,800 Speaker 1: Antonio Brown that it is possible to piece together and 1382 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,160 Speaker 1: be curious about the mental health side. I mean, because 1383 01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:55,599 Speaker 1: there's been indications and suggestions that that is some many 1384 01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 1: deals with. And I took Brady's comments along the same 1385 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:03,000 Speaker 1: avenue that you did. Um, this is a star player 1386 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,720 Speaker 1: who on who was on a Hall of Fame, you 1387 01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,960 Speaker 1: know avenue at some point. I mean you can see it, 1388 01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:10,360 Speaker 1: and it's like, that's why he was in the building. 1389 01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,720 Speaker 1: I think this puts the bed probably what was a 1390 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: bit of a tension filled um scenario between not about 1391 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,040 Speaker 1: tension field, but Tom Brady wanted him. Would he have 1392 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:20,800 Speaker 1: been on the bucks that Tom Brady wasn't there? No, 1393 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:23,760 Speaker 1: this wasn't a Bruce Arians witch casting. I think Bruce 1394 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,120 Speaker 1: Arians did his best to put up with him. I 1395 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,679 Speaker 1: just wonder, I mean, in terms of the Antonio Brown experience, 1396 01:11:29,720 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: did he wake up at some point today thinking that, 1397 01:11:32,920 --> 01:11:34,960 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to play anymore, or in 1398 01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: the scope of possibilities of actions I might take today, 1399 01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,759 Speaker 1: one of them could be stripping down from the belt 1400 01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,120 Speaker 1: up and running out of the stadium and taking an 1401 01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: uber home. I just when he took the uber, there 1402 01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:50,760 Speaker 1: was some great It wasn't an uber. He got his 1403 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,280 Speaker 1: personal you've taken you've taken first of all, you've taken 1404 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:58,559 Speaker 1: your chance for Super Bowl ring away, and you've probably 1405 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,720 Speaker 1: taken your teams chances away because losing Antonio Brown on 1406 01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,960 Speaker 1: the field is nothing short of titanic. I think for 1407 01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: the for the Buccaneers, right with the state that they're 1408 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,080 Speaker 1: in right now, it's huge. And this wasn't like a 1409 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,880 Speaker 1: experiment that always had a potential, high risk, high reward 1410 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,200 Speaker 1: point of implosion, and today it imploded and rather spectacular fashion. 1411 01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Well supposedly they were getting frustrated, according to some the 1412 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 1: local reports with his behavior throughout the course of his 1413 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,200 Speaker 1: suspension and then since coming back, and you could see 1414 01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,240 Speaker 1: the way he was with reporters when he didn't even 1415 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 1: want to answer questions about it. So, you know, you're right, 1416 01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:39,240 Speaker 1: Dan like Arians was the I know Brady wanted him 1417 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,439 Speaker 1: on the team, but Arians ultimately made the decision to 1418 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,960 Speaker 1: keep him, which was even after the suspension, which was 1419 01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 1: obviously a mistake. And they're gonna be counting on Cyril 1420 01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:53,360 Speaker 1: Grayson and um Tyler Johnson. You know, I know Evans 1421 01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: was back today, uh and Gronk had a good game, 1422 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,599 Speaker 1: but they're definitely shorthanded. Lavante David's hurt, Jack barretts Hrt, 1423 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: They've had some really significant players that are out right 1424 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 1: now to um to both. To mark your point, I 1425 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,920 Speaker 1: wonder if Arians has a conversation with Brady before he 1426 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,840 Speaker 1: goes up that PODi up to that podium, or if 1427 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,600 Speaker 1: that's something in the just in the heat of the 1428 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: moment he says, no, he's gone. That's it. Um Well, 1429 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean that was to be like he's not even 1430 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: It's like Antonio Brown quit. It was he was off 1431 01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 1: the team already. He he he took himself off the box. 1432 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,439 Speaker 1: Arians never even had a choice. I don't know, right well, 1433 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,680 Speaker 1: and he left, He literally left, you know what I mean. 1434 01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,760 Speaker 1: Like at that point, Antonio Brown knew his Bucks career 1435 01:13:34,840 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: was over. I mean not do n't know if he's 1436 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: thinking about it that. I don't think you can think 1437 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: about anything, because if you look at his escalators in 1438 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 1: his contract, he was with just like normal type. Brown 1439 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,320 Speaker 1: performances the rest of this game and next week he 1440 01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: would have cleared like well over a million dollars in bonuses. 1441 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,600 Speaker 1: So I think he's a guy that is a complete 1442 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:54,240 Speaker 1: loose cannon in a hothead that lost his temper. And 1443 01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:57,240 Speaker 1: probably even if he won't admit to it right now, 1444 01:13:57,560 --> 01:14:00,599 Speaker 1: he knows he made a huge mistake. Now there's talk like, oh, 1445 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: he's out of football now, Well we'll see. We'll see 1446 01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,479 Speaker 1: they wait until the offseason and see if another team says, oh, 1447 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,120 Speaker 1: I would like this, like top twenty five wide receiver 1448 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: in the whole league at a deep discount, like don't 1449 01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:15,000 Speaker 1: underestimate the NFL's ability to look the other way. But 1450 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I always think about Chris Westling and the 1451 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,800 Speaker 1: most upset I've ever seen him on the podcast, other 1452 01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,639 Speaker 1: than when someone told him to take his hat off, UM, 1453 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:29,719 Speaker 1: was when Tom Brady and Bill Belichick brought Antonio Brown 1454 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 1: to New England UH in the wake of the um 1455 01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,479 Speaker 1: sexual assault allegations that Brown was facing at the time, 1456 01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,960 Speaker 1: and and west was so strong about that and and 1457 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,080 Speaker 1: said that he had lost all respect for Bellichick and Brady. 1458 01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I remember there was some tension in the studio that night, Greg, 1459 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:49,000 Speaker 1: because you were talking, you know, you guys were in 1460 01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:52,639 Speaker 1: a real good conversation about everything about it. And UM, 1461 01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:54,519 Speaker 1: I thought about that today because I've been thinking about 1462 01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,280 Speaker 1: I know, as we all have West a lot with 1463 01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 1: the new year, and you know he's been gone almost 1464 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:02,759 Speaker 1: a year now. Um that Brown, this is not anything 1465 01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: new that he's been this divisive guy that at a 1466 01:15:05,479 --> 01:15:07,519 Speaker 1: certain point people need to you gotta put your foot 1467 01:15:07,560 --> 01:15:09,320 Speaker 1: down and say this is not a guy that can 1468 01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,360 Speaker 1: help my team, even if he is fantastically talented. We've 1469 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 1: seen it again with yet another team, right and one 1470 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,800 Speaker 1: of one of West's favorite coaches to arians you know, 1471 01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:22,160 Speaker 1: one of it like an organization that you know, they 1472 01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,639 Speaker 1: want a super Bowl. So I guess they'll they'll look 1473 01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:27,559 Speaker 1: back and think, I guess it was worth it because 1474 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,639 Speaker 1: he helped along the way. Um. But it it's like 1475 01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:35,360 Speaker 1: they they asked for it and they got it. And 1476 01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:37,720 Speaker 1: I don't think they're they're done by any means. I mean, 1477 01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:39,080 Speaker 1: they find out way to win this game, and I 1478 01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:40,280 Speaker 1: know we can get to the game. But they've they 1479 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,960 Speaker 1: won twelve games and they'll they'll have a home game 1480 01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,080 Speaker 1: in the first round of the playoffs and maybe more. 1481 01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,880 Speaker 1: But they're not the same team that they could have 1482 01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,120 Speaker 1: been because of injuries and now because of this. As 1483 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,719 Speaker 1: far as the game goes, UM from the Jet side, really, 1484 01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,640 Speaker 1: I know it helps their draft standing. But it's a 1485 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:59,160 Speaker 1: really tough loss because, like I said, they were I think, 1486 01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:06,120 Speaker 1: um double digit teen underdogs in this game. Uh and 1487 01:16:07,200 --> 01:16:09,400 Speaker 1: Zach Wilson played his best complete game of the year, 1488 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,600 Speaker 1: and the defense really played well and played with a 1489 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 1: lot of passion. And I came out of the game 1490 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: or as the game went along, like really feeling good 1491 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:19,719 Speaker 1: about Robert Salin, how hard he had this team playing. 1492 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 1: After the game, Salo was furious about a the Jets 1493 01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:30,000 Speaker 1: were up by um three points or four points, excuse 1494 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,160 Speaker 1: me late in the game, deep in Tampa Bay territory, 1495 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:38,320 Speaker 1: facing fourth and two, and there's a miscommunication between Michael Floor, 1496 01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:42,599 Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, and Zack Wilson about a play call 1497 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,599 Speaker 1: that should have been an end around to Braxton Burrios, 1498 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,360 Speaker 1: but instead turned into a QB sneak, a two yard 1499 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,400 Speaker 1: QB sneak that they were trying to get. They got 1500 01:16:50,439 --> 01:16:53,120 Speaker 1: maybe half a yard. Brady takes over and goes right 1501 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:55,679 Speaker 1: down the field. And I thought it was interesting how 1502 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,960 Speaker 1: pointed Salo was. I wonder what it means for the 1503 01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,880 Speaker 1: relationship with Michael Floor, who and I think has been 1504 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,000 Speaker 1: very good this year. But that set in motion the 1505 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 1: comeback for the Bucks, who went ninety three yards the 1506 01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: other way. The Jets passing up the field goal on 1507 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,200 Speaker 1: fourth and two that would have put him up seven 1508 01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,800 Speaker 1: to try to win the game. Called the wrong play 1509 01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: in the huddle, or it's executed and properly by the rookie, 1510 01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 1: but it was put completely on Michael la floor. That 1511 01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:20,320 Speaker 1: was the big turning point and what people talk about, 1512 01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 1: not Antonio Brown relating in this game. I just I 1513 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:27,120 Speaker 1: would look at some of the positive quarters and moments 1514 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,920 Speaker 1: the Jets have had in the last couple of weeks 1515 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,400 Speaker 1: and say, let's build off it. I'd hate to see 1516 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: them in some sort of skategoat scenario or or or 1517 01:17:35,240 --> 01:17:37,960 Speaker 1: fresh change, move on from the floor and bringing a 1518 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:41,320 Speaker 1: new offense, because if Zach Wilson needs anything on the planet, 1519 01:17:41,640 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: it is ultraconsistency between now and next September. I hate 1520 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:48,840 Speaker 1: the lack of responsibility there, but hopefully it's just like emotions. 1521 01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:51,519 Speaker 1: But that's from both coaches. I mean, Arians takes no 1522 01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:54,559 Speaker 1: responsibility whatsoever, doesn't even want to talk about it when 1523 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:57,200 Speaker 1: he said he wouldn't talk about why Brown was returning 1524 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,799 Speaker 1: in the first place, Like you're always asking your players 1525 01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,720 Speaker 1: to take responsibility and then the coaches don't. And I 1526 01:18:03,000 --> 01:18:06,160 Speaker 1: don't know if if Salo was putting it on his coach, 1527 01:18:06,240 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 1: but it's a bad job by him too, Like you 1528 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,439 Speaker 1: don't want to do that publicly. Yeah, I mean he 1529 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:16,639 Speaker 1: didn't mean, but yes, they It was just unfortunate because 1530 01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 1: it was really a nice It was a nice day 1531 01:18:18,960 --> 01:18:20,880 Speaker 1: overall at the Meadow Ends. The fans were into. It 1532 01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: just didn't work out. But credit to the Bucks. They 1533 01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,879 Speaker 1: come back. They keep themselves pointed in the right direction, 1534 01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:28,200 Speaker 1: even if Antonio Brown will not be there any longer. 1535 01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,360 Speaker 1: Let us now take a break and then continue on. 1536 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:39,120 Speaker 1: Hicky firing for the end zone. Incomplete and complete, and 1537 01:18:39,680 --> 01:18:44,760 Speaker 1: let's he caught the ball the cloud feels like he 1538 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 1: just intercepted the game, decepted the ball to seal the game. 1539 01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:51,400 Speaker 1: He does it again the second week in a role 1540 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:56,360 Speaker 1: that run him. A cloud comes up, the interception huge 1541 01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 1: and this is going to do it, Ladies and gentlemen. 1542 01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:03,920 Speaker 1: That's like such a perfect call for the Eagles as 1543 01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:06,599 Speaker 1: a team right now, which is like, well it worked out. 1544 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,479 Speaker 1: That was a good thing for the Eagles. The Eagles win. 1545 01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:14,400 Speaker 1: Meryl Reese Mike quick with it called w I p 1546 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 1: is not art right now for the Eagles, but football 1547 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 1: is not played in a damn museum. Rodney McCleod picked 1548 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 1: off Taylor Heineke in the end zone with twenty four 1549 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,679 Speaker 1: seconds to play to seal another one for the Eagles, 1550 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:32,439 Speaker 1: this time a conquest over the Washington football team, Greg Phillies, 1551 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,880 Speaker 1: recent games all seemed to follow a similar script, slow 1552 01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,680 Speaker 1: start followed by a winning course correction. Right, they were 1553 01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,440 Speaker 1: impressive here. I mean, I know it wasn't pretty and McLeod, 1554 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,679 Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think that was an interception either. 1555 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,360 Speaker 1: It's such a homer for the Eagles. I don't know 1556 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,759 Speaker 1: over this Washington team. This is a two and five 1557 01:19:54,040 --> 01:19:58,320 Speaker 1: team that you were wondering if the coach might last 1558 01:19:58,400 --> 01:20:02,360 Speaker 1: only one year, if the GM might finally lose his 1559 01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:07,439 Speaker 1: job after you know, more than a decade in that building. Uh. 1560 01:20:07,479 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 1: That clinched the playoffs spot with a week left in 1561 01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:14,840 Speaker 1: the season by going seven and two. Yes, they got 1562 01:20:15,160 --> 01:20:18,679 Speaker 1: a nice break in terms of the schedule throughout that run, 1563 01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,880 Speaker 1: but they still did it. And like for this team, 1564 01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:24,760 Speaker 1: for their expectations, they did it. And you're right that 1565 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:28,080 Speaker 1: this game was perfect for it because it was not pretty, 1566 01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: especially defensively in the first half, but the second half 1567 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:34,000 Speaker 1: when they needed it, Like there were very few drives 1568 01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,559 Speaker 1: in this game, they go touchdown, field goal, field goal. 1569 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:41,400 Speaker 1: They win the second half thirteen to nothing. Their defensive 1570 01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:44,800 Speaker 1: line absolutely dominated after Heinek was just playing out of 1571 01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,200 Speaker 1: his mind in the first half and they played more 1572 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:49,439 Speaker 1: or less a perfect second half to go clinch a 1573 01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,320 Speaker 1: playoffs spot. You know, just take it, just take it. 1574 01:20:52,840 --> 01:20:54,360 Speaker 1: I mean, what do you want, know you want to 1575 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,160 Speaker 1: talk about like in the a f C, everybody wants 1576 01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,519 Speaker 1: to look at and maybe we'll get the Titans. All 1577 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: these NFC superpowers, like give us the Eagles in round one, 1578 01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,880 Speaker 1: will fly. I you know what, I think the Eagles 1579 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: are right to pick someone up in the playoffs, depending 1580 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:12,360 Speaker 1: on how that opponent's most likely. At this I could 1581 01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,920 Speaker 1: see it. They've given up under twenty five in a row. 1582 01:21:15,040 --> 01:21:18,400 Speaker 1: Now that came against the Giants, the Jets, the Giants 1583 01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 1: again in Washington twice, so that that factors in. But 1584 01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:24,439 Speaker 1: I think they're built really well along both lines. They 1585 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,400 Speaker 1: can run the ball. Jalen Hurts if you get the 1586 01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:27,840 Speaker 1: right game out of him, I would not want to 1587 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:29,880 Speaker 1: deal with them in the wild card round. You know, 1588 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:31,960 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say too much more because I have 1589 01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:34,160 Speaker 1: to watch the game, So I'm not going to bury 1590 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,559 Speaker 1: the Eagles for their performance today, but I think it 1591 01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:40,680 Speaker 1: does we need to keep an eye in Jalen Hurts healthy. 1592 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,160 Speaker 1: I think, yes, I'm gonna walk that back a little 1593 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:45,559 Speaker 1: bit because maybe if he's making plays with his legs 1594 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:50,439 Speaker 1: in a playoff game, UM, things can get dicey for 1595 01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,680 Speaker 1: any favorite. But I thought, you know, there were some 1596 01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,679 Speaker 1: comments made by Nick Sirianni after the game, um that 1597 01:21:57,840 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 1: you know, he really thought so much of Hurts for 1598 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:03,200 Speaker 1: kind of battling through what's been a really painful injury 1599 01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:04,920 Speaker 1: that's affected him in a lot of ways. So he's 1600 01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:09,040 Speaker 1: coming out here and winning games. So respect to uh, 1601 01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:11,719 Speaker 1: respect to the quarterback for that, respect to the Eagles 1602 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 1: for getting to the playoffs. I don't think a lot 1603 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:15,719 Speaker 1: of people how to pick for the playoffs, and Nick's 1604 01:22:15,720 --> 01:22:21,519 Speaker 1: ARIANI who you know, who's overcome some initial um public facing, 1605 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, an underwhelming start to like how he was 1606 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:27,640 Speaker 1: positioned and where the organization was and how things are 1607 01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,200 Speaker 1: gonna work out. Well, they're going to the dance, so 1608 01:22:30,240 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 1: that's pretty good, right, And then this was a fourth 1609 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:35,840 Speaker 1: and fourth down game, you know, it would have been 1610 01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,760 Speaker 1: the talking point. I feel like if it didn't work, 1611 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 1: it often doesn't become the talking point when it does work. 1612 01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:44,120 Speaker 1: But they scored two touchdowns on fourth and goal, and 1613 01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 1: I think both were from the two if I was right, 1614 01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,000 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like a total since and one of 1615 01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:53,320 Speaker 1: them took an extraordinary play from Boston Scott Jalen Hurts 1616 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,520 Speaker 1: like essentially gets tripped up while pitching the ball backwards. 1617 01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,800 Speaker 1: The defensive line for Washington looks like they're Scott gets 1618 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: to the outside, gets the touchdown, and hitting those two 1619 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,360 Speaker 1: fourth and goals was kind of the difference, uh in 1620 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,120 Speaker 1: a game that was this close. That hind that both quarterbacks, 1621 01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,559 Speaker 1: if you look at the box score, played much better 1622 01:23:12,600 --> 01:23:15,160 Speaker 1: than they then The box score show it. Hurts I 1623 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: thought had one of his best games. His offensive line 1624 01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:19,880 Speaker 1: did not play well for him, which was rare. They 1625 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,280 Speaker 1: did not have much of a running game besides the Hurts, 1626 01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:24,800 Speaker 1: and Heinik played really like out of his mind in 1627 01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: the first half, Like every third down just felt like 1628 01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 1: it was Heinick pulling off a miracle and it ran out. 1629 01:23:30,040 --> 01:23:32,200 Speaker 1: I would say one thing I know, Ron Rivera is 1630 01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,120 Speaker 1: you know, beyond critique, and we all like the person 1631 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:38,639 Speaker 1: a lot, but this team is falling off a cliff. 1632 01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: And I know that they have been shorthanded, there's been 1633 01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,000 Speaker 1: corona issues, there's been injuries. You don't have the quarterback 1634 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:45,760 Speaker 1: you played with, although I don't think the quarterback play 1635 01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 1: has killed him that much. Four games in a row 1636 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,760 Speaker 1: against division opponents. They were embarrassed by the Cowboys a 1637 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,400 Speaker 1: week ago. They've lost twice the Eagles now and in 1638 01:23:53,680 --> 01:23:56,479 Speaker 1: not too far away weeks. Like I'm sorry, but like 1639 01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,439 Speaker 1: the the honeymoon period on some level needs to be 1640 01:23:59,479 --> 01:24:01,439 Speaker 1: read me gin during the off season, you've got to 1641 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: go get some real players, especially at quarterback. Little honeymoon 1642 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:09,000 Speaker 1: period reimagining. I mean, you know it's yea. I think 1643 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,000 Speaker 1: it gets some more rope than most most coaches around. Can. 1644 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:18,559 Speaker 1: We just mentioned quickly that the rails at the stadium, 1645 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:25,280 Speaker 1: it was terrible because it was a couple of I 1646 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,760 Speaker 1: just sober moment. It wasn't a sober moment. It was 1647 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,360 Speaker 1: amazing that that hurts then like starts posing for pictures, 1648 01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,559 Speaker 1: but it was if the timing had been different. Gara 1649 01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:37,720 Speaker 1: followed by the way, nice job. I think he was 1650 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,479 Speaker 1: the one that I don't think he was no hea um. 1651 01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,920 Speaker 1: I mean, Hurts could have been underneath that while while 1652 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,080 Speaker 1: the gate fell on them and all the fans did. 1653 01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 1: If it was like two seconds later, that would have 1654 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:54,439 Speaker 1: been a freaking disaster. What's going on in Washington Earlier 1655 01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:56,760 Speaker 1: in the season, the pipes were bursting and soaking the 1656 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,320 Speaker 1: fans that come on, let's build it. I mean when 1657 01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:02,160 Speaker 1: you watch what what like human bodies are capable of? 1658 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Because also the fans that fell like face forward down 1659 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,519 Speaker 1: like nineties straight degrees into the earth should have been hurt. 1660 01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:10,320 Speaker 1: And they were up two minutes later with their arms 1661 01:25:10,360 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 1: around Hurts, taking like groups selfies. So you know, the 1662 01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:16,160 Speaker 1: body is strange. Wait a second, I think maybe it 1663 01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:19,439 Speaker 1: was Mike's original video. I'm not sure. I don't want 1664 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:21,559 Speaker 1: to take it away from him either way. That's how 1665 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,559 Speaker 1: I saw it because it was going nuts um, and 1666 01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,960 Speaker 1: there was an AP photographer runner that was injured. He 1667 01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 1: was underneath that thing when I fell. I don't believe 1668 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:34,040 Speaker 1: it was a serious injury situation, but yeah it was. 1669 01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,760 Speaker 1: It was scary because you know, like that was what 1670 01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 1: twenty people leaning into it. That's got to be fortified. 1671 01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:43,479 Speaker 1: What are we doing in Washington? Can we do? What? 1672 01:25:43,600 --> 01:25:46,439 Speaker 1: Can we do anything right there? And the Eagles are 1673 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: brought their heated benches too. It's now become a bit 1674 01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,720 Speaker 1: in the NFC West that everyone's bringing their bench and 1675 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 1: we cleaned things up down there for Christ's taken and 1676 01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:58,400 Speaker 1: give it up to h Hurts for that's that's some 1677 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,640 Speaker 1: Joe Montana like composure to just start posing with the 1678 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: fans like seconds later. I don't think anybody was aware 1679 01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:07,479 Speaker 1: there were injuries at that point, or serious injuries. All right. Anyway, 1680 01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:13,839 Speaker 1: let's head from one team punching their ticket to another 1681 01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:17,960 Speaker 1: that could The Niners ers on the fort and a 1682 01:26:18,040 --> 01:26:20,600 Speaker 1: roll tray Lance to the right has time could have 1683 01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,200 Speaker 1: thrown back leftopo ober Rod. It is caught by Gabo 1684 01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:32,599 Speaker 1: Samuel inside of the tag picks a Tacko touchdown. Sand 1685 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:43,040 Speaker 1: fran Cisco RT called Greg Papa one G Greg, not 1686 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,640 Speaker 1: a triple G, two gs, double G. It would be 1687 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 1: even better if he was triple G Papa, wouldn't He's 1688 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 1: he's only sniper shot. K n b R rookie Tray 1689 01:26:57,680 --> 01:27:01,000 Speaker 1: Lance through two touchdown passes in the second half of 1690 01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,600 Speaker 1: his second career start, and the Niners now zeroed in 1691 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:09,360 Speaker 1: on a playoff spot. With a seven win over the Texans, uh, 1692 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the Niners can clinch their second postseason appearance in five 1693 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: years under Shanahan with a win next week against the 1694 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,439 Speaker 1: Rams or a loss by the Saints. That is the 1695 01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:22,280 Speaker 1: set up. Mark. What did you think about the kids 1696 01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 1: performance today and would it be something that potentially gives 1697 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:29,760 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan some pause as they look forward in I 1698 01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:31,240 Speaker 1: think it would give him a little bit of pause 1699 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: because I mean, you know, he heated up and you 1700 01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:35,559 Speaker 1: saw a couple of things which I'll get to in 1701 01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,400 Speaker 1: a minute later in the game that give you hope. 1702 01:27:38,439 --> 01:27:42,559 Speaker 1: But I thought that they really struggled. Um Shanahan struggled 1703 01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,599 Speaker 1: to find the best play calls to kind of find 1704 01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,720 Speaker 1: rhythm and fit lance in this offense. At first, he 1705 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:50,600 Speaker 1: threw a bad interception on a you know, zoned in 1706 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:54,479 Speaker 1: pass to George Kittle. He also had an incredible like 1707 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 1: laser touchdown dart to Stebo Samuel later in the game 1708 01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,439 Speaker 1: that you're like, wait a minute, Jimmy g for all 1709 01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:02,800 Speaker 1: is good and bad moments, could never have thrown that ball. 1710 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he had another incredible throw to George Kittle, 1711 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,840 Speaker 1: that as they got heated up, and I think they 1712 01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,960 Speaker 1: still want to be a run based team. And you know, 1713 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,320 Speaker 1: Eli Mitchell like was so good today on a couple 1714 01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,280 Speaker 1: of different runs that helped him out. But you didn't 1715 01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:17,280 Speaker 1: see tray Lance take over the game necessarily. Um not 1716 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:19,840 Speaker 1: that I expected that today. I thought that on the 1717 01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,320 Speaker 1: flip side, what happened for Houston a little bit. They 1718 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,760 Speaker 1: hung around. Their offensive line did a sneaky good job 1719 01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:27,400 Speaker 1: and they're not a good old line at all until 1720 01:28:27,439 --> 01:28:29,760 Speaker 1: the Niners defense really kind of got going later in 1721 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,760 Speaker 1: the game. It just took the entire San Francisco operations sometime. 1722 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,599 Speaker 1: I I honestly looked at it. Dylan thoughts for all 1723 01:28:36,640 --> 01:28:39,040 Speaker 1: of the ups and downs with Jimmy G. I don't 1724 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 1: know if I would take the risk of putting tray 1725 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:44,639 Speaker 1: Lance into a playoff game over Jimmy G at this point. 1726 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: It just looks to me a little slow in his processing. 1727 01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:49,800 Speaker 1: I mean, that did improve as the game went along, 1728 01:28:49,840 --> 01:28:52,680 Speaker 1: so maybe he projected out two games from now it's 1729 01:28:52,680 --> 01:28:54,599 Speaker 1: a little bit better. But I think there's a reason 1730 01:28:54,640 --> 01:28:56,920 Speaker 1: that we haven't seen a ton of trade Lance up 1731 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,360 Speaker 1: until we needed to because of the injury this week 1732 01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,320 Speaker 1: because I think gets neck up. We all know he's 1733 01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,720 Speaker 1: a smart player. They say that that this offense just 1734 01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,800 Speaker 1: has not totally clicked in his mind. Ali, we can 1735 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,400 Speaker 1: do some things physically that are very impressive. Well maybe 1736 01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:11,640 Speaker 1: there's like maybe that's the case. And I know Garoppolo 1737 01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: on balance has been good this year. Um the case 1738 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:18,280 Speaker 1: for why Land should have been in the lineup so 1739 01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:21,160 Speaker 1: he could get their mental reps, get ramped up, and 1740 01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:23,479 Speaker 1: continue to gain some confidence. And then you're going into 1741 01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:26,160 Speaker 1: the postseason with a rookie that has some reps. I 1742 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,559 Speaker 1: know that's that's all silly because that's not the way 1743 01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:31,559 Speaker 1: it played out. And Garoppolo certainly is capable of getting 1744 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,439 Speaker 1: hot himself in January. But it did make it. As 1745 01:29:34,439 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 1: you're explaining that to me, it doesn't make me think 1746 01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:39,479 Speaker 1: maybe he if he had the opportunity to get sped 1747 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,599 Speaker 1: up a little bit, this would be a different Niners 1748 01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 1: team we're talking about. But that's not where we're at. 1749 01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:45,680 Speaker 1: But he might I think he might. I mean it might. 1750 01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:49,519 Speaker 1: The decision might not be one to be made. This 1751 01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,599 Speaker 1: sounds like a serious thumb injury. It's torn ligaments. He's 1752 01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:55,360 Speaker 1: gonna have surgery and it eventually, he never sounded like 1753 01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:59,080 Speaker 1: he got particularly close. He never threw a football this 1754 01:29:59,160 --> 01:30:03,040 Speaker 1: last week, and while I bemoaned the lack of juice 1755 01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,960 Speaker 1: going into Week eighteen, at the beginning of the show, 1756 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: the Rams forty Niners game is pretty spicy. I mean that, 1757 01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, forty Niners have won five straight against them. 1758 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,640 Speaker 1: The forty Niners are gonna need that win um to 1759 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, or at least to clinch a spot. 1760 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,200 Speaker 1: The Saints will still be alive, and I'm sure they'll 1761 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:22,160 Speaker 1: put that at the same time, so it's not a 1762 01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 1: dead game. They've kind of owned the Rams. They could hurt. 1763 01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,240 Speaker 1: They could knock the Rams out of the division lead. 1764 01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Maybe it's Lands, maybe it's Garoppola. I don't know. The 1765 01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:31,200 Speaker 1: way they talked about the Jimmy g injury, it does 1766 01:30:31,280 --> 01:30:34,920 Speaker 1: make you wonder if he's just done zo um this season. 1767 01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:38,760 Speaker 1: Mcvavor shanahan. That's just fun because you know, like if 1768 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 1: there's any two guys on a field in two right 1769 01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:44,320 Speaker 1: now that I want to have like their inner monologue 1770 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:46,439 Speaker 1: locked in, I would be like when those guys are 1771 01:30:46,479 --> 01:30:49,639 Speaker 1: going into against each other and just mother effing each other, 1772 01:30:49,720 --> 01:30:52,720 Speaker 1: like altered the game I'm the true boy genius. No, 1773 01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 1: I am take that want to be boy genius. I'm 1774 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,760 Speaker 1: the true boy genius. Like, well, you're both like it's 1775 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,519 Speaker 1: the extent of the time. And mcvad mcvaigan knocked them 1776 01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,240 Speaker 1: right out of the playoffs, which would be a nice 1777 01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:06,680 Speaker 1: little revenge for losing five straight against them. All right, 1778 01:31:06,720 --> 01:31:09,880 Speaker 1: so let's uh, let's move on now. The Saints also 1779 01:31:10,040 --> 01:31:14,080 Speaker 1: harbor playoff hopes as we enter Week eighteen in a 1780 01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:17,599 Speaker 1: few days, so let's check in on them. Second, it's 1781 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:20,479 Speaker 1: twenty back to pass their trumps. Pressure throw that balls 1782 01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:23,519 Speaker 1: picked off right side, looks like CD douce right in 1783 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,240 Speaker 1: front of the Saints pench down inside the ferny R line. 1784 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,640 Speaker 1: CD news, We'll take it to the end zone to celebrate. 1785 01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:40,040 Speaker 1: And that's the way you're finishing. I liked it. The 1786 01:31:40,120 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 1: late interception of Sam Donald sealed it for the Saints 1787 01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:48,679 Speaker 1: in eighteen ten win on Sunday. Uh, Saints still alive 1788 01:31:48,760 --> 01:31:50,920 Speaker 1: in the in the wild card race. And this is 1789 01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,000 Speaker 1: a game where Alvin Camara turned a short pass into 1790 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:57,040 Speaker 1: a New Orleans touchdown, their first touchdown in eleven quarters. 1791 01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:58,960 Speaker 1: W did you ever think you would see that? These 1792 01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:01,560 Speaker 1: the Saints under on Payton needing eleven quarters does the 1793 01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,240 Speaker 1: score a touchdown? But even if he didn't score that, 1794 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,200 Speaker 1: they probably would have won anyway because Brett Mark kicked 1795 01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:11,519 Speaker 1: four field goals and the defense was just way too 1796 01:32:11,640 --> 01:32:17,439 Speaker 1: much for the Panthers completely in apt offensive attack. This 1797 01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:21,559 Speaker 1: is a Panther's team that had seven sacks of Sam Donald. 1798 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:24,920 Speaker 1: Cam Jordan's had three and a half on his own, 1799 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,400 Speaker 1: and that's his third straight game with at least two sacks. 1800 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,360 Speaker 1: He's had a great career cam Jordan's and he still 1801 01:32:30,439 --> 01:32:32,880 Speaker 1: got it. And yes it was c J. Gardner Johnson 1802 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:40,120 Speaker 1: or c J. Douce? Was it c who locked it down? 1803 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:43,960 Speaker 1: So the Pathers that six straight losses, the Saints poll 1804 01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,200 Speaker 1: to eight and eight and they have a shot here. 1805 01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't watch a buch of this game, 1806 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,840 Speaker 1: but I did watch the Panthers final drive while they 1807 01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:54,840 Speaker 1: were down eight, so it's technically a one score game. 1808 01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,599 Speaker 1: I don't feel like I needed to watch anything more 1809 01:32:56,600 --> 01:33:01,200 Speaker 1: than that. This is not a great game. This is 1810 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,880 Speaker 1: not a fun game to watch. This is a game 1811 01:33:02,960 --> 01:33:05,600 Speaker 1: like I'm glad I watched it because I don't have 1812 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:09,840 Speaker 1: to ever think about it again. Um, Sam Donald can't play. 1813 01:33:09,880 --> 01:33:11,320 Speaker 1: It did remind me that I was one of the 1814 01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:13,920 Speaker 1: people that was like, man, they probably should have kept 1815 01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,519 Speaker 1: Donald and then traded that number two overall pick, and No, 1816 01:33:18,360 --> 01:33:20,599 Speaker 1: Sam Donald just not going to be the guy. He's 1817 01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 1: a he's a backup somewhere. Taysom Hill is the same thing. 1818 01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,120 Speaker 1: His Mill is not even a backup. I don't think 1819 01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,240 Speaker 1: at quarterback. I think he's he's much more suited to 1820 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,519 Speaker 1: be the gadget player that he was before that. I 1821 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 1: think this was by far not his worst game, but 1822 01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 1: it kind of is the Taysom Hell experience that he 1823 01:33:36,479 --> 01:33:39,080 Speaker 1: doesn't really move the the offense very well, but he 1824 01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:41,280 Speaker 1: will come in with a nice run here and there. 1825 01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,880 Speaker 1: Um So the offense is what it is, and it 1826 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: was good that they got Camara unlocked a little bit 1827 01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,760 Speaker 1: in this game. They've really struggled to do that, uh 1828 01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 1: in stretches this season. But it's the defense that carried 1829 01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:55,040 Speaker 1: them and the defensive line which is really good, and 1830 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,400 Speaker 1: that is their ticket to the playoffs. They are a 1831 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,040 Speaker 1: They're not a pretty team, the Saints, but they are 1832 01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 1: a gritty team. I love and I know you do, Greg. 1833 01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: I love the Week eight team matchup at Atlanta, because 1834 01:34:07,120 --> 01:34:09,120 Speaker 1: you know, the Falcons are a team that would love 1835 01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:12,160 Speaker 1: to end the Saints season and crushing fashion. And I 1836 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,400 Speaker 1: do not put the Saints as a heavy favorite there. 1837 01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:16,760 Speaker 1: I think that's another one of those close Falcons games 1838 01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:19,719 Speaker 1: in which they've had a lot of uh success this season. 1839 01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,120 Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that on Thursday in the here 1840 01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,639 Speaker 1: and now. The Saints got it done. I mean the Saints. 1841 01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 1: The one thing about them again, if you project some 1842 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 1: of these teams into the playoffs, their defense when they 1843 01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:31,840 Speaker 1: match up, well, I mean can it can be a 1844 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,880 Speaker 1: lights out situation. And Carolina's offensive line being as bad 1845 01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:37,200 Speaker 1: as it was, I mean some of that that last 1846 01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:40,400 Speaker 1: drive that you watched, Greg, there were two gigantic like 1847 01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,800 Speaker 1: takedowns of Donald that essentially was at the second end 1848 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,439 Speaker 1: of the drive. I mean they are able to they 1849 01:34:45,600 --> 01:34:49,160 Speaker 1: like the three D, but I think that's showed throw 1850 01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:50,920 Speaker 1: it more than three yards. It was just I think 1851 01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,400 Speaker 1: it shows though, like how the quarterbacks in Carolina have 1852 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:55,760 Speaker 1: been under dress all year long behind that line. But 1853 01:34:55,880 --> 01:34:58,240 Speaker 1: this list the Saints defense did it to Tom Brady 1854 01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. I just they're a little bizarre. 1855 01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:03,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to predict any of their games 1856 01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,320 Speaker 1: outside of them being low scoring. I feel like Saints 1857 01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:07,519 Speaker 1: fans don't even want them to make the playoffs. Just stupid. 1858 01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:09,479 Speaker 1: Just make the playoffs and have to I know this, 1859 01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:14,320 Speaker 1: What does it matter? What does it matter? What it's like, Oh, 1860 01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:16,920 Speaker 1: we don't, It's like who cares? Just enjoy it. Just 1861 01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,599 Speaker 1: make position and you're eight and eight. It's it's gonna 1862 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:24,880 Speaker 1: make that big a difference. At this point, that wasn't like, Okay, 1863 01:35:24,920 --> 01:35:27,280 Speaker 1: we know they're not going to win. I guess the 1864 01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,080 Speaker 1: idea is like you don't want to lose thirty four 1865 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 1: to three against the Rams or whatever it might be, 1866 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:33,720 Speaker 1: which is totally possible. I'll tell you what, what I 1867 01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:35,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't give to wake up on a Saturday or Sunday 1868 01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:38,480 Speaker 1: morning and be like, Oh, my team's playing a postseason 1869 01:35:38,520 --> 01:35:40,640 Speaker 1: game today. Do not take that for granted. I know, 1870 01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:42,960 Speaker 1: Saints fans, you've been very lucky with Drew Brees all 1871 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:45,720 Speaker 1: these years, but it doesn't always happen. I don't know 1872 01:35:45,720 --> 01:35:47,360 Speaker 1: how many Saints fans are like that. You think it's 1873 01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot? Is that a scientific study? How do it 1874 01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:54,599 Speaker 1: like we're coming up with that? Greg from one okay, 1875 01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,360 Speaker 1: um Alright, anybody else have a question about this game, 1876 01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,160 Speaker 1: because it really is exactly what it It's like. Um, 1877 01:36:01,320 --> 01:36:04,960 Speaker 1: the Saints field goal kicker did nicely, the defense balled out. 1878 01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:07,840 Speaker 1: Sam Donald stinks Taysom Hills not much better, but he 1879 01:36:08,040 --> 01:36:12,320 Speaker 1: is better. No, But I think it's noteworthy that Ian 1880 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:16,880 Speaker 1: Rapports said the plan is to keep Matt rule. But 1881 01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:21,560 Speaker 1: he said barring a total catastrophe the last couple of 1882 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,560 Speaker 1: weeks or like something unforeseen, which so what does that 1883 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,880 Speaker 1: even mean? Like every week is a catastrophe for the 1884 01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,559 Speaker 1: I also think it's all it's all, it's all been foreseen. 1885 01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,599 Speaker 1: I think what we're watching is not something that trades. 1886 01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:35,320 Speaker 1: So to me, that's that says like, yeah, we're probably 1887 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:37,040 Speaker 1: keeping him, but I don't know if there's some coach 1888 01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:38,760 Speaker 1: we really like that. And it is a hundred and 1889 01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:41,400 Speaker 1: seventy eight total yards of offense three yards per play? 1890 01:36:41,720 --> 01:36:44,320 Speaker 1: Is that a catastrophe? Right? The lowest are yards per 1891 01:36:44,360 --> 01:36:47,040 Speaker 1: attempt of Sam Donald's career, which is like a pretty 1892 01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,360 Speaker 1: high or low bar to reach, is three point He 1893 01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,840 Speaker 1: averaged three point five yards per throw, and that's like 1894 01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:55,600 Speaker 1: an offseason draw or off the field drama too. I 1895 01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:57,960 Speaker 1: think some of them good at cooking up. I honestly 1896 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,439 Speaker 1: think rules best chance to survive ys. Don't get blown 1897 01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:04,360 Speaker 1: out in week eighteen. Don't say anything, don't become a 1898 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:06,880 Speaker 1: meme or be someone that's mocked for a stupid press 1899 01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:11,720 Speaker 1: conference comment jay Z type comment um, and just get 1900 01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:15,280 Speaker 1: get to the offseason. Whip sealed into silence. Keep a 1901 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:18,600 Speaker 1: low profile, my man. We're pulling for you. We like you, 1902 01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,360 Speaker 1: your jersey guy, but we need to keep a low profile. 1903 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:26,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's uh, yeah, there there was a worst 1904 01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:29,840 Speaker 1: offensive performance. Uh it was from the Giants. Let's check 1905 01:37:29,880 --> 01:37:33,000 Speaker 1: in on that. With time. Here comes queen, what's right? 1906 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:37,800 Speaker 1: Into gop of the ball comes out? Giants have recovered 1907 01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:44,120 Speaker 1: for Robert Quinn has just picked up sec number eighteen 1908 01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:48,680 Speaker 1: in a regular season that has been nothing shorter spectacular. 1909 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,599 Speaker 1: And I set the Bear single season record for sacks 1910 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:56,000 Speaker 1: that has held for thirty seven years. This game was 1911 01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:59,680 Speaker 1: about defense for the Bears, though Robert Quinn broke Hall 1912 01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:02,439 Speaker 1: of Fame Richard Dan's franchise single season mark with his 1913 01:38:02,560 --> 01:38:09,880 Speaker 1: eighteenth szack in nine to three win UM. The Giants 1914 01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:15,160 Speaker 1: were held to minus ten net passing yards in this game. Quinn, meanwhile, 1915 01:38:15,240 --> 01:38:18,200 Speaker 1: reached that eighteen sack mark a year after his Bears 1916 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,160 Speaker 1: tenure began with two sacks in fifteen games in twenty 1917 01:38:22,280 --> 01:38:26,920 Speaker 1: weird mark weird. It was a weird game. It's, uh 1918 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,080 Speaker 1: an eyesore of a scenario for Giants fans who have 1919 01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:33,360 Speaker 1: been through it. Um, you know, it's always was a 1920 01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:36,360 Speaker 1: Jets Giants who's dealing with worse stuff or what one 1921 01:38:36,479 --> 01:38:38,439 Speaker 1: one of them has like high glory and the other 1922 01:38:38,520 --> 01:38:40,920 Speaker 1: still has worse stuff. But right now, these Giants fans, 1923 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:43,559 Speaker 1: I mean, this game in the first couple of minutes 1924 01:38:43,640 --> 01:38:46,799 Speaker 1: became as embarrassing as possible. Uh. You know, the Bears 1925 01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:49,920 Speaker 1: basically got up fourteen nothing off a strip sack of 1926 01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 1: Glennon that put the ball to three yard line. Then 1927 01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,839 Speaker 1: he threw a terrible interception. It's just like Mike Glennon, 1928 01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,920 Speaker 1: who has been around the block at this point, I 1929 01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:01,120 Speaker 1: don't understand how you he hired him. He had twenty 1930 01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:04,600 Speaker 1: four yards in the entire game with two killer interceptions 1931 01:39:04,680 --> 01:39:08,439 Speaker 1: and that fumble. The Bears offense was not very good either. 1932 01:39:08,520 --> 01:39:11,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this was a rough watch, but they just 1933 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,880 Speaker 1: I thought it was better field position for them and 1934 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:16,920 Speaker 1: a defense in Chicago that looked like under Shandasia has 1935 01:39:16,920 --> 01:39:18,880 Speaker 1: done a really good job. I think in general, like 1936 01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:21,599 Speaker 1: the Bears defenses of old, it's like, we don't need 1937 01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,320 Speaker 1: the offensive to everything. We're gonna go take care of 1938 01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:27,040 Speaker 1: business right now. A good call about Glennon. I um 1939 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,920 Speaker 1: read about that in the Power Rings last last week 1940 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:32,760 Speaker 1: that the Tri State area has seen entirely too much 1941 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:35,600 Speaker 1: Mike Lennon this season, and this is the type of 1942 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:37,639 Speaker 1: performance this year where you kind of play yourself out 1943 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:40,360 Speaker 1: of that backup quarterback land and it's putting his career 1944 01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:43,920 Speaker 1: in danger. He could be heading towards the XFL. Any 1945 01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,800 Speaker 1: other notes on this game mark that jump out to 1946 01:39:45,840 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: you before we move on, not a ton. I do 1947 01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,960 Speaker 1: think that the Bears have played hard on for Matt 1948 01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:55,680 Speaker 1: Neige despite we all know that he's gone. I mean, 1949 01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,599 Speaker 1: I I think you even go back to that Packers performance. 1950 01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:01,080 Speaker 1: Just in general, day have not faded the way some 1951 01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,280 Speaker 1: of these teams have. And so some of these seems 1952 01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,080 Speaker 1: like like Joe Judge's team, we do have Joe Judge, 1953 01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:09,400 Speaker 1: uh some sound from him his eleven minute some of 1954 01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: his eleven minute rant defending himself when when they asked, 1955 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,080 Speaker 1: like what what he's done to keep his job. Was 1956 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,679 Speaker 1: ridiculous to keep a low profile. Dude, You guys ain't 1957 01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:22,280 Speaker 1: been the building for two years now with this code. 1958 01:40:23,000 --> 01:40:24,680 Speaker 1: Al Right, but i'll tell you right now, all right, 1959 01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,960 Speaker 1: if you're in the damn building, you walking through our 1960 01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:31,880 Speaker 1: locker room, you ain't seen that crappy saw before. All right. 1961 01:40:32,680 --> 01:40:34,840 Speaker 1: You ain't seen guys right now playing vacations. You ain't 1962 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,320 Speaker 1: seen golf clubs in front of players locker. Ain't seen 1963 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:40,840 Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, when did Joe Judge become like 1964 01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,360 Speaker 1: Matthew McConaughey and in a time to kill he suddenly 1965 01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:48,800 Speaker 1: has like a Southern accent? You wait this, and it 1966 01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:52,640 Speaker 1: was just just ridiculous. He's from Pennsylvania and it's just 1967 01:40:53,120 --> 01:40:55,800 Speaker 1: the Aints, and and he went on this huge thing 1968 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,479 Speaker 1: about like what a great how they've stayed together, Like 1969 01:40:59,600 --> 01:41:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't care. You just got blown out by another 1970 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,840 Speaker 1: team that supposedly isn't staying together, like show it on 1971 01:41:04,920 --> 01:41:07,120 Speaker 1: the field, Like I think he's gone. Who cares that 1972 01:41:07,280 --> 01:41:09,600 Speaker 1: it hasn't been ugly like they on the field. I 1973 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:11,880 Speaker 1: know the report was out there that he was safe, 1974 01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,040 Speaker 1: and but that happens every year. There's always a guy 1975 01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:16,080 Speaker 1: that we're told is safe, that goes and I just 1976 01:41:16,240 --> 01:41:21,040 Speaker 1: think the way this season is cratering into abject embarrassment 1977 01:41:21,160 --> 01:41:24,120 Speaker 1: for the Giants, it just makes more and more sense 1978 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:26,799 Speaker 1: that they're going to do a total overhaul the operation. 1979 01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:29,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you could say it's unfair to Joe Judge 1980 01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,799 Speaker 1: or whatever, but he's had two years and the organization 1981 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,439 Speaker 1: has regressed or the team has regressed, and it's just like, man, 1982 01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:37,799 Speaker 1: what's the case for keeping a guy when the team's 1983 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars are probably the worst team in football, 1984 01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:42,760 Speaker 1: but the Giants are right behind him, and that is 1985 01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:47,040 Speaker 1: that's really telling making things up to Like he said, 1986 01:41:47,640 --> 01:41:49,960 Speaker 1: people from other teams are telling them that they'd rather 1987 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,200 Speaker 1: be on the Giants still, even though they're making more 1988 01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,760 Speaker 1: money else where. It's like it's just I mean, I 1989 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,559 Speaker 1: think to Greg's point though too, like from last week, 1990 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,960 Speaker 1: that's suddenly what You're not going to have the general manager, 1991 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:02,840 Speaker 1: but you're going to have Joe Judge if you keep him, 1992 01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:06,559 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna shoehorn another general manager in there 1993 01:42:06,640 --> 01:42:08,400 Speaker 1: that works in that power structure. I think that the 1994 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:10,720 Speaker 1: Giants have to finally get this thing right, and I 1995 01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,400 Speaker 1: don't know what candidate would be out there that would 1996 01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:15,120 Speaker 1: appeal to them outside of like pulling Bill Belichick away 1997 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,000 Speaker 1: from New England, which I'm going to continue to hammer 1998 01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:21,040 Speaker 1: that idea. Um, but there's this is not working. It's dysfunctional. 1999 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,360 Speaker 1: Why would Bill Belichick ever want to leave the Patriots 2000 01:42:24,520 --> 01:42:28,479 Speaker 1: once again an ascended franchise to try to rebuild the 2001 01:42:28,640 --> 01:42:32,519 Speaker 1: Giants when he's like seventy years old. Um, Because I 2002 01:42:32,640 --> 01:42:34,720 Speaker 1: think that it would be if he were able to 2003 01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: do that in three or four years as his swan song, 2004 01:42:37,720 --> 01:42:39,640 Speaker 1: to go back where he came from, to raise it 2005 01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,080 Speaker 1: out of the ashes, it would be like, oh wait, 2006 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,479 Speaker 1: this is the greatest coach of our entire life. He's 2007 01:42:44,479 --> 01:42:47,160 Speaker 1: already risen the Patriots out of their seven and nine slumber. 2008 01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,360 Speaker 1: So I was going to say, though, like he already 2009 01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,160 Speaker 1: has that narrative set up in New England. Not to 2010 01:42:52,240 --> 01:42:53,800 Speaker 1: get backed down here, but well, I think we all 2011 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,240 Speaker 1: need new challenges. Maybe view it as a new challenge 2012 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:59,080 Speaker 1: versus just doing it with the Patriots again, but not 2013 01:42:59,240 --> 01:43:01,080 Speaker 1: without Brady, is what I'm saying. He kind of already 2014 01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,920 Speaker 1: has it set up in New England to to write 2015 01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,479 Speaker 1: that final chapter. Yeah, I am not calling this a 2016 01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 1: likely scenario. I'm just saying that the Giants would want 2017 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:10,880 Speaker 1: to be wooed by someone like if you're gonna come 2018 01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:12,640 Speaker 1: on from Joe Judge, you're not gonna fill them in 2019 01:43:12,720 --> 01:43:16,640 Speaker 1: with some other, you know, nameless face. Please, right, all right, 2020 01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:20,320 Speaker 1: let's wrap up the pre Sunday night football games with 2021 01:43:20,439 --> 01:43:25,560 Speaker 1: a trip to luman Field. That still doesn't sound the 2022 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:33,960 Speaker 1: clink touchdown? What was the original? Yeah, rocks rolls riding 2023 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,800 Speaker 1: any white. Then number fourteen opens up under the goal 2024 01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:41,560 Speaker 1: posts from a yard out and Medcalf now with his 2025 01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:47,360 Speaker 1: third touchdown of the day. Original name of Seahawks Stadium 2026 01:43:49,479 --> 01:43:53,519 Speaker 1: quest Field. Now that's a name, that's a corporate name. 2027 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:58,000 Speaker 1: I can get a more poetic. Yeah, that was when 2028 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:02,479 Speaker 1: the twelves or the twelves and way Steve Rabel k 2029 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:07,120 Speaker 1: I r O. Russell Wilson threw four touchdown passes Hey Greg, 2030 01:44:07,240 --> 01:44:12,320 Speaker 1: three of them to DK Metcalf, buddy take hey to 2031 01:44:12,760 --> 01:44:19,439 Speaker 1: Mac Jones setting records today three touchdowns and uh well 2032 01:44:19,520 --> 01:44:21,280 Speaker 1: that was like two takes going up and smoke at 2033 01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:24,960 Speaker 1: the same time. Russell Wilson shot and DK Metcalf haates 2034 01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:28,280 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and can't catch touchdowns for him anymore. Well 2035 01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,360 Speaker 1: that there was never a thing that they couldn't catch touchdowns. 2036 01:44:31,920 --> 01:44:35,760 Speaker 1: It was like there that there was some h you know, unhappiness. 2037 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,960 Speaker 1: You're right, okay, Rosha Penny added a hundred and seventy 2038 01:44:40,000 --> 01:44:43,920 Speaker 1: yards on the ground and two touchdowns. Seahawks roll nine. 2039 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:48,640 Speaker 1: Another fifty burger, ironic fifty burgers for the Seahawks and 2040 01:44:48,680 --> 01:44:52,160 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Mac Jones and the Patriots. Yeah, I 2041 01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:56,080 Speaker 1: fired them, got fire. Well, I mean, my that that 2042 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:59,880 Speaker 1: take only lasted like a day before I saw Chris 2043 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,519 Speaker 1: Him's getting flamed for saying the Jets would turn down 2044 01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:07,320 Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson for Zack Wilson trade, which is really 2045 01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:10,400 Speaker 1: a next another level on top of mine, which there's 2046 01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,800 Speaker 1: many levels to why I think that's wrong. Um, Russell 2047 01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,320 Speaker 1: Wilson played great though today it had a very slow start, 2048 01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:19,840 Speaker 1: weirdly for a team that put up fifty and then 2049 01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:24,720 Speaker 1: I think they scored touchdowns in six straight drives. I mean, 2050 01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:31,080 Speaker 1: you don't you don't see that too often? Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, 2051 01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,920 Speaker 1: touch on touchdown fieldal Fogle, I mean, that's that's that's 2052 01:45:34,000 --> 01:45:39,120 Speaker 1: getting it done, that's eating right. Good morning. We want 2053 01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:42,760 Speaker 1: to say, really that was your spot. You slide right 2054 01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:46,040 Speaker 1: in there with your own commentary. Always not always, but 2055 01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,120 Speaker 1: I will, I will. I mean that's what happened with 2056 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:51,439 Speaker 1: Detroit because I think Tim Boyle, like at this point, 2057 01:45:51,720 --> 01:45:54,000 Speaker 1: would have would have been any different with Jared goffin there. 2058 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,960 Speaker 1: I don't even know they banged me. I I m 2059 01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:00,439 Speaker 1: the rainmaker. The hot streak is so went over. I 2060 01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:02,639 Speaker 1: went one and one this week, you know, the Eagles 2061 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:04,280 Speaker 1: came through. So I was up to six and oh 2062 01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:08,080 Speaker 1: I got I got a banged by God. I wouldn't 2063 01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:10,439 Speaker 1: have GoF your right. Wasn't the difference in this, But 2064 01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,760 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have made it rain with with Tim Boyle. 2065 01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,640 Speaker 1: But that's what happens when you tape on Thursday. It's okay. Uh, 2066 01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:22,840 Speaker 1: they defense to come after certain coaches about accountability. You 2067 01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,960 Speaker 1: know I could have I couldn't try to change. Well, 2068 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:28,160 Speaker 1: I could have tried. I thought about, like, is there 2069 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:30,880 Speaker 1: any way because I did change my pick like online 2070 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,840 Speaker 1: and stuff when that happens. But at this point our podcast, 2071 01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:36,439 Speaker 1: you know, you gotta live with what what changes. So 2072 01:46:36,720 --> 01:46:38,960 Speaker 1: I took the el. So there's there's six and one. 2073 01:46:39,120 --> 01:46:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's too much but Russell, uh Russell. Okay, 2074 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:44,960 Speaker 1: Rashad Penny has like really run well the last few weeks. 2075 01:46:45,320 --> 01:46:48,519 Speaker 1: He now has as many runs over twenty five yards 2076 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 1: as any running back in the league. He he either 2077 01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:54,240 Speaker 1: has tied with Jonathan Taylor or his second I'm not 2078 01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:58,760 Speaker 1: sure right now, but that is outrageous. Yeah, that's um, 2079 01:46:58,920 --> 01:47:01,960 Speaker 1: I guess something to look forward to. The Seahawks former 2080 01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,840 Speaker 1: first round pick finally doing something staying healthy. All right, 2081 01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:08,880 Speaker 1: there you go. The Lins have mixed in some of 2082 01:47:08,920 --> 01:47:12,080 Speaker 1: those grizzly blowouts befitting of a truly terrible team with 2083 01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,479 Speaker 1: the field good stories we kind of gloss over when 2084 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:19,040 Speaker 1: they get their asses blown out narrative. So well, it's 2085 01:47:19,080 --> 01:47:21,760 Speaker 1: true they've had a ton of close losses and they've 2086 01:47:21,800 --> 01:47:27,320 Speaker 1: gotten destroyed. I'm on st rossing Brown though. Uh he's 2087 01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:30,959 Speaker 1: a real setting some rookie records. Had a rushing touchdown. 2088 01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, this was about as fun as a Seahawks 2089 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:38,600 Speaker 1: Lions totally empty blowout could be because, uh there was 2090 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 1: a lot of points. You like, that's you know, a 2091 01:47:42,080 --> 01:47:44,160 Speaker 1: couple of pieces to build around. You know, go go 2092 01:47:44,400 --> 01:47:47,000 Speaker 1: get another wide receiver pair with him, and we're starting 2093 01:47:47,040 --> 01:47:48,840 Speaker 1: to cook a little bit got t J. Hockinson there, 2094 01:47:49,360 --> 01:47:51,719 Speaker 1: all right, enough enough lins talk, let's move to Sunday 2095 01:47:51,800 --> 01:48:09,680 Speaker 1: night football as time again touched down a week too 2096 01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:16,600 Speaker 1: easy with the Green Bay Packers where once again the 2097 01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:21,559 Speaker 1: number one seed in the NFC there once again thirteen 2098 01:48:21,640 --> 01:48:25,479 Speaker 1: and three for the third straight year, as they take 2099 01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:30,800 Speaker 1: out the Vikings without Kirk Cousins thirty seven to ten. 2100 01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:35,759 Speaker 1: If I wull score, as I said, with the Packers 2101 01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,040 Speaker 1: with the wind clinched the NFC number one seed, that 2102 01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:42,679 Speaker 1: means they get the bye week, they get hope field 2103 01:48:42,680 --> 01:48:47,720 Speaker 1: advantage throughout the NFC playoffs, and Mark this one never 2104 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,920 Speaker 1: felt like was even the slightest bit of doubt. No, 2105 01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean the game itself, um for the Vikings was 2106 01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,720 Speaker 1: just sort of doubst in purposelessness because you know you've 2107 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:00,720 Speaker 1: been reduced to a team with at your quarterback. But 2108 01:49:00,760 --> 01:49:02,479 Speaker 1: I don't think it would have mattered if Kirk Cousins 2109 01:49:02,560 --> 01:49:05,560 Speaker 1: were there or not. The Packers right now are locked in, 2110 01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:08,360 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, of the first team in league history 2111 01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,920 Speaker 1: to win third team plus games and three straight seasons. 2112 01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,400 Speaker 1: Of those three teams, this is the one I I 2113 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:18,439 Speaker 1: struggled to kind of buy into hot regular season. I 2114 01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:20,920 Speaker 1: expect you to get knocked out in the playoffs. I 2115 01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,599 Speaker 1: don't feel that way at this at all. I think 2116 01:49:22,680 --> 01:49:25,080 Speaker 1: you look around the NFC right now and I love 2117 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:28,120 Speaker 1: teams like this that that drop a bomb right before 2118 01:49:28,200 --> 01:49:30,559 Speaker 1: they start to rest players and get ready for their 2119 01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:34,160 Speaker 1: by Who wants to go into Green Bay is the Cowboys, 2120 01:49:34,200 --> 01:49:36,040 Speaker 1: who are a hot and cold operation. I mean we 2121 01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,320 Speaker 1: like parts of them. The Rams, who you're playing like 2122 01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:41,280 Speaker 1: their quarterback doesn't have a bad turnover game. We don't 2123 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,479 Speaker 1: know what we're getting from the Cardinals and the Bucks team, 2124 01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,920 Speaker 1: the one that I thought might have been kryptonite for 2125 01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:49,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay. Just watch their best skilled position player march 2126 01:49:49,320 --> 01:49:51,280 Speaker 1: off the field with no shirts. So I think Green 2127 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:55,280 Speaker 1: Bay is rounding into form at the most perfect possible time. 2128 01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,759 Speaker 1: Your quarterback is the m v P of the league. 2129 01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,200 Speaker 1: You have skilled position players all over the play. The 2130 01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:04,920 Speaker 1: defense is solid enough. This team right now has no excuses. 2131 01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,479 Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in a negative way. I 2132 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,599 Speaker 1: just see their path is clear to the Super Bowl 2133 01:50:08,640 --> 01:50:11,000 Speaker 1: as it's ever been in the last five or six years. 2134 01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,160 Speaker 1: It was nice for them, though, to do this. I 2135 01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,479 Speaker 1: know Kirk wouldn't have made the difference, but to go 2136 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:21,760 Speaker 1: into halftime with the yardage total before that vikings Field 2137 01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:25,600 Speaker 1: go drive I believe was two nine to thirty. It 2138 01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,920 Speaker 1: was like, okay, thank you Packers because the last three 2139 01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:32,720 Speaker 1: or four weeks without these complete games, with letting the 2140 01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,240 Speaker 1: Ravens back in, with getting a little lucky, I believe 2141 01:50:35,280 --> 01:50:37,519 Speaker 1: against the Browns, I'm sure they wanted to play a 2142 01:50:37,560 --> 01:50:41,120 Speaker 1: cleaner game. Rodgers was fantastic. If Degura didn't drop that 2143 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, potential touchdown in the first quarter, he would, 2144 01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:46,439 Speaker 1: you know, Rogers would have had three touchdowns. Davante Adams 2145 01:50:46,439 --> 01:50:49,639 Speaker 1: sets the Packers record. Everything's great, and they're not gonna 2146 01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:52,519 Speaker 1: play a meaningful game for three weeks, which is always 2147 01:50:52,560 --> 01:50:55,599 Speaker 1: a little weird. But the next time they play, they'll 2148 01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:57,960 Speaker 1: either be like eight teams left, or they'll be six 2149 01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:00,639 Speaker 1: teams left or who knows. Like that, the next time 2150 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:03,320 Speaker 1: the Packers will will play a meaningful game and they 2151 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,519 Speaker 1: might have a lot of players back, especially on the 2152 01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,880 Speaker 1: offensive line. That that's the spot where I think they 2153 01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:11,439 Speaker 1: could get better where they've been short, you know, without Turner, 2154 01:51:11,479 --> 01:51:14,519 Speaker 1: without Myers, and now without box tr of course, yeah, 2155 01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:16,800 Speaker 1: the box Tr thing looms over everything. He was, you know, 2156 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,760 Speaker 1: their best tackle and the best offensive lineman and he 2157 01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:23,519 Speaker 1: tore the a c L last January. If he came back, 2158 01:51:23,640 --> 01:51:26,799 Speaker 1: that would be a huge lift. And yeah, I agree 2159 01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:29,880 Speaker 1: that this feels of the three years, the year that 2160 01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 1: they're the most set up here, um to get back 2161 01:51:32,840 --> 01:51:35,360 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. They haven't been to the super 2162 01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:37,400 Speaker 1: Bowl since the two thousand and ten seasons, so they're 2163 01:51:37,400 --> 01:51:40,760 Speaker 1: obviously overdue. Rogers, even though it feels like he's gonna 2164 01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:43,679 Speaker 1: be good forever. Um, you don't know what his future 2165 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,559 Speaker 1: is with the Packers. You don't Davante Adams. His contract 2166 01:51:46,680 --> 01:51:50,680 Speaker 1: is up there over the cap significantly. UM. So this 2167 01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:55,000 Speaker 1: particular team, the way it's constituted like this is the 2168 01:51:55,080 --> 01:51:57,360 Speaker 1: team that needs to win to home games and get 2169 01:51:57,400 --> 01:51:59,640 Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. And I think they'll be a 2170 01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,880 Speaker 1: favor it in every game they play. Now we'll get 2171 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:03,800 Speaker 1: to all that in time, but I think it was 2172 01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:06,760 Speaker 1: just it should be celebrated what they've been able to 2173 01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,559 Speaker 1: do this season, which is they started the season as 2174 01:52:09,720 --> 01:52:13,360 Speaker 1: ugly as they can get, losing that game in Jacksonville 2175 01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:17,040 Speaker 1: to the Saints. Rogers threw two interceptions in that game. 2176 01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:21,599 Speaker 1: He threw two more over the next sixteen weeks. That's 2177 01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:24,840 Speaker 1: just how crazy fifteen weeks. That's how crazy the season 2178 01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:29,240 Speaker 1: has been. Um in terms of the offense being mistake free. 2179 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,040 Speaker 1: They're so well coached. They didn't have a penalty in 2180 01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:33,639 Speaker 1: this game until the very end of the game. Jones 2181 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,800 Speaker 1: and Dylan are a great one to punch Adams is unbelievable. 2182 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,439 Speaker 1: So yeah, this team is set up well. Uh, we'll 2183 01:52:39,479 --> 01:52:41,680 Speaker 1: talk about the Vikings as well marked down the road. 2184 01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:44,559 Speaker 1: But you have to wonder, I thought it jumped out 2185 01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:46,479 Speaker 1: to me. I didn't know that's that the Vikings haven't 2186 01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:50,479 Speaker 1: been above five at any point uh in a season 2187 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:54,040 Speaker 1: for two years now. When Vikings Press needs to decide 2188 01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:58,280 Speaker 1: whether to bring Mike zimmer Um, that inconsistency has to 2189 01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:02,400 Speaker 1: be um, you know, put into the equation. Yeah, I mean, 2190 01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:05,479 Speaker 1: you were the team that kind of floated below Green 2191 01:53:05,560 --> 01:53:07,439 Speaker 1: Bay for so long. And I think that the acid 2192 01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,559 Speaker 1: test for any team, any coach in the NFC North 2193 01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:14,000 Speaker 1: is beating Green Bay, beating Aaron Rodgers. And you know, 2194 01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:16,640 Speaker 1: Zimmer's had a couple of moments here and there, but 2195 01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,479 Speaker 1: you're right, like we've drawn entertainment from how close they 2196 01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:23,120 Speaker 1: hovered a five hundred, how most of them their games 2197 01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:25,599 Speaker 1: come down to the very end, but they've never really 2198 01:53:26,720 --> 01:53:29,720 Speaker 1: morphed into dominance. They've never really become that team, and 2199 01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:31,720 Speaker 1: I it just feels like the end of the road 2200 01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,920 Speaker 1: for Zimmer because of the amount of frustrating games. I 2201 01:53:35,080 --> 01:53:38,400 Speaker 1: I kind of drew interest from that Bill Parcels book 2202 01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:41,320 Speaker 1: that he shared with with the with the announcing crew 2203 01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,760 Speaker 1: at the end, where like Parcels game a couple of 2204 01:53:43,800 --> 01:53:45,479 Speaker 1: different tips about what it's like to be a coach 2205 01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,400 Speaker 1: and if you aren't cut out for this, it's gonna 2206 01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:49,800 Speaker 1: be real rough. The first two ord note party, but 2207 01:53:49,920 --> 01:53:53,200 Speaker 1: the third one on it's just lonely. And sometimes when 2208 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:55,080 Speaker 1: I look at Zimmer, it's just it does seem like 2209 01:53:55,560 --> 01:53:58,080 Speaker 1: you're trapped in a strange place as this Vikings coach. 2210 01:53:58,160 --> 01:54:00,599 Speaker 1: And I don't know how you really are you bringing 2211 01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:02,560 Speaker 1: him back for another year because I can't think of 2212 01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,559 Speaker 1: a team that has so many interesting parts but feels 2213 01:54:05,560 --> 01:54:08,479 Speaker 1: in need of a refresh in certain areas. But don't 2214 01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,760 Speaker 1: bring back, don't get rid of Zimmer and then keep 2215 01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:14,080 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins around because I don't care who you bring in. 2216 01:54:14,439 --> 01:54:16,479 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'm more a pro Zimmer guy 2217 01:54:16,520 --> 01:54:19,479 Speaker 1: than other people, but like, don't tell me that Mike 2218 01:54:19,560 --> 01:54:23,120 Speaker 1: Zimmer is the problem because I think ultimately Cousins bears 2219 01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,400 Speaker 1: a huge responsibility that they've been middling ever since the 2220 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:29,640 Speaker 1: Minneapolis miracle. They're an up and down operation. Cousins is 2221 01:54:29,720 --> 01:54:32,320 Speaker 1: an up and down quarterback. And it feels like to me, 2222 01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:34,960 Speaker 1: if you want to do a little quick postmortem here, 2223 01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,120 Speaker 1: that that's as big an issue as any head coach 2224 01:54:38,240 --> 01:54:41,920 Speaker 1: malaise that they have. He's not on the field in 2225 01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,680 Speaker 1: this game because he didn't get vaccinated. He must have 2226 01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,240 Speaker 1: slipped out of the cube. That's the problem. It's a 2227 01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:51,360 Speaker 1: it's a tough one. It's like it's just like such 2228 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,080 Speaker 1: a boring way for this to end, but almost so predicted. 2229 01:54:54,120 --> 01:54:55,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you have said this before the season, 2230 01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:59,840 Speaker 1: that Cousins gets COVID before they get hammered, and we 2231 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,440 Speaker 1: seventeen on Sunday Night football for the Packers to get 2232 01:55:02,440 --> 01:55:05,320 Speaker 1: the one seed, it's just like two predictable. And it's 2233 01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,920 Speaker 1: a it's a really tough one, Dan, because you know, 2234 01:55:07,960 --> 01:55:09,760 Speaker 1: I want to argue with you in terms of like 2235 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,120 Speaker 1: Cousins versus Zimmer, but I think the answer is they're 2236 01:55:12,160 --> 01:55:15,400 Speaker 1: just they're similar, you know, they're they're both a little 2237 01:55:15,480 --> 01:55:18,320 Speaker 1: better than average actually, and that's why it's tough. I 2238 01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:21,200 Speaker 1: think Cousins is a little is ahead of the Dalton line, 2239 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,160 Speaker 1: adding Zimmer is ahead of the Dalton line for coaches, 2240 01:55:24,480 --> 01:55:26,640 Speaker 1: and yet it's so obvious that the two of them 2241 01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,760 Speaker 1: together in three out of the last four years have 2242 01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:33,320 Speaker 1: have been underwhelming, haven't gotten their over underwind total, which 2243 01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:34,520 Speaker 1: is just a kind of a good way to look 2244 01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:38,280 Speaker 1: at like expectations, and and it needs to change. And Spielman, 2245 01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,960 Speaker 1: who runs the show, really precede Zimmer by I thinks 2246 01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:46,720 Speaker 1: five or six years, so he's been there for fifteen years. 2247 01:55:46,760 --> 01:55:49,600 Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a tough one because there's 2248 01:55:49,640 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 1: no easy answers. My guests would be you you do 2249 01:55:52,840 --> 01:55:55,120 Speaker 1: blow it up and that in that yeah, Cousins as 2250 01:55:55,320 --> 01:55:57,840 Speaker 1: is a tradeable piece, and that if you if you 2251 01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:01,000 Speaker 1: get stuck with Cousins with then you coach. You can 2252 01:56:01,080 --> 01:56:02,520 Speaker 1: live with that, but you kind of go into the 2253 01:56:02,600 --> 01:56:04,720 Speaker 1: off season seeing what a new coach or new GM 2254 01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:06,640 Speaker 1: wants to do with him. And I feel like Cousins 2255 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:11,120 Speaker 1: actually is pretty pretty darn movable. Zimmer and his three 2256 01:56:11,200 --> 01:56:15,920 Speaker 1: years before Cousins was there, you know, I don't know, 2257 01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about anymore. I'm just saying 2258 01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:23,440 Speaker 1: I think, I think, I think above average coach, maybe 2259 01:56:23,480 --> 01:56:25,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more than that. Then Cousins comes in, 2260 01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:28,640 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, that Cousins mediocrity is draped 2261 01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,160 Speaker 1: over everything. And also, and I don't want to hear it, 2262 01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:33,440 Speaker 1: and I don't want to hear it on Twitter people, Oh, 2263 01:56:33,560 --> 01:56:36,320 Speaker 1: don't say that Cousins. You know he got COVID because 2264 01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:39,760 Speaker 1: he's unvaccinated. I know everyone's getting COVID now I understand that, 2265 01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,760 Speaker 1: but that hung over this team the whole season, the 2266 01:56:42,840 --> 01:56:45,560 Speaker 1: fact that he was the starting quarterback unvaccinated, and it 2267 01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,960 Speaker 1: did come and get them in a big spot here 2268 01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,160 Speaker 1: with the season on the line. So it is what 2269 01:56:50,240 --> 01:56:53,120 Speaker 1: it is. I think La Fleur and Rogers might have 2270 01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:57,560 Speaker 1: um cemented their trophies. Now Rabel might get Coach of 2271 01:56:57,640 --> 01:57:01,000 Speaker 1: the Year. I think has a good chance. But La 2272 01:57:01,080 --> 01:57:03,520 Speaker 1: Fleur man, I think he might get a lifetime achievement 2273 01:57:03,600 --> 01:57:06,400 Speaker 1: for that thirteen, you know, the thirteen wins three straight years, 2274 01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,880 Speaker 1: and I think he deserves it. And and I know 2275 01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:10,920 Speaker 1: Burrow is the fun pick and he might put up 2276 01:57:11,000 --> 01:57:13,320 Speaker 1: some numbers next week, but I still would give it 2277 01:57:13,400 --> 01:57:15,640 Speaker 1: to Rodgers. Or even Rocks. I would actually give it 2278 01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:19,720 Speaker 1: the cup maybe um over over if I had to vote, 2279 01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,000 Speaker 1: But you like a three pack, but you can't, so 2280 01:57:22,080 --> 01:57:24,920 Speaker 1: I'd give it to Dan's point, that's the third time 2281 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,760 Speaker 1: in his career that he's thrown five d plus attempts 2282 01:57:27,800 --> 01:57:30,800 Speaker 1: with four fewer interceptions. He is the m v P. 2283 01:57:30,920 --> 01:57:33,120 Speaker 1: And to top what happened last year, I you know, 2284 01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:35,800 Speaker 1: I would want to dock him a few points for um, 2285 01:57:36,040 --> 01:57:38,840 Speaker 1: you know, six months of absurd offseason drama, but that 2286 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:41,520 Speaker 1: that's gone at this point. He is the best player 2287 01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:44,040 Speaker 1: on the best team in football right now. I wonder if, 2288 01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,880 Speaker 1: because it's such a it seems like a closer race 2289 01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:49,440 Speaker 1: this year, I wonder if him not playing and he's 2290 01:57:49,480 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 1: not going to play next week against the Lions for 2291 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,320 Speaker 1: several reasons, um, but that inability to pat pat his 2292 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:59,080 Speaker 1: stats and get up to thirty touchdowns. You know whether 2293 01:57:59,200 --> 01:58:03,000 Speaker 1: voters will hold that against them, even subconsciously, because thirty 2294 01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:06,560 Speaker 1: five touchdowns one doesn't jump at out you like it 2295 01:58:06,640 --> 01:58:09,760 Speaker 1: did maybe ten ago. I think he wanted for me 2296 01:58:09,880 --> 01:58:13,000 Speaker 1: at least he won my theoretical vote in the first 2297 01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,360 Speaker 1: eight to ten games when he was managing those games 2298 01:58:16,400 --> 01:58:19,000 Speaker 1: almost like he was the coach, Like even when the 2299 01:58:19,120 --> 01:58:22,160 Speaker 1: numbers weren't popping off, he did the necessary place to 2300 01:58:22,200 --> 01:58:24,000 Speaker 1: win in each one of those weeks, and like he 2301 01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:27,280 Speaker 1: calculates risks and avoids mistakes. So and was like making 2302 01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,120 Speaker 1: up for the guys that weren't gone. It was a 2303 01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,600 Speaker 1: it was a great season, all right, let's spend forward. Okay, 2304 01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:33,960 Speaker 1: So the Eagles did. They clinch a playoffs butt in 2305 01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:36,880 Speaker 1: the NFC with the Vikings loss and the Packers win. 2306 01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:40,160 Speaker 1: So the Eagles are officially in uh the schedule for 2307 01:58:40,240 --> 01:58:45,560 Speaker 1: week eighteen. Uh, they dropped it Chiefs, Broncos, UH and Cowboys. 2308 01:58:45,640 --> 01:58:48,720 Speaker 1: Eagles will play on Saturday, the Sunday night game as 2309 01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,800 Speaker 1: it should be as Chargers versus Raiders, which is most 2310 01:58:51,880 --> 01:58:54,320 Speaker 1: likely going to be a win and in game, so 2311 01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:58,720 Speaker 1: the playoffs start early. Any other final thoughts, gentlemen before 2312 01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:02,880 Speaker 1: we say goodbye. Mm hm. The Eagles will probably rest 2313 01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,240 Speaker 1: their starters in that game. But they were in a 2314 01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:08,920 Speaker 1: tough spot the NFL because they wanted to keep all 2315 01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:11,360 Speaker 1: the I was thinking that there's a lot to consider there. 2316 01:59:11,400 --> 01:59:13,920 Speaker 1: They're playing the a f C East games all at 2317 01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:16,320 Speaker 1: the same time. In the afternoon, they're playing the in 2318 01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:18,880 Speaker 1: the Sunday afternoon. That is, the NFC West games at 2319 01:59:18,920 --> 01:59:21,920 Speaker 1: the same time Sunday afternoon and the n in the 2320 01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,080 Speaker 1: Saints are being moved to the afternoon to the NFC 2321 01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:28,160 Speaker 1: wild Card spot. So basically the Sunday morning is all 2322 01:59:28,240 --> 01:59:30,840 Speaker 1: but dead. Uh, And so they had it was tricky. 2323 01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,520 Speaker 1: There wasn't any perfect choice, but I would guess the 2324 01:59:33,600 --> 01:59:36,960 Speaker 1: Eagles are probably gonna arrest their starters. They're almost certainly 2325 01:59:37,000 --> 01:59:39,000 Speaker 1: going to play the Bucks or there's a very high 2326 01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,440 Speaker 1: percentage chance that it's Eagles at Bucks almost no matter 2327 01:59:42,520 --> 01:59:46,360 Speaker 1: what happens, I think Chiefs forty Broncos seven will be 2328 01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:49,400 Speaker 1: a real juicy piece of fruit to dig your teeth 2329 01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,200 Speaker 1: into on Saturday to at least that game has meaning. 2330 01:59:52,320 --> 01:59:55,360 Speaker 1: But you're right at a it's not much of a game. 2331 01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:59,840 Speaker 1: And one last note, we watched the Vikings tonight. The 2332 02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:03,880 Speaker 1: most famous Vikings loss of the last thirty years came 2333 02:00:03,960 --> 02:00:07,600 Speaker 1: at the hands of the Atlanta Falcons INNC Championship game. 2334 02:00:07,640 --> 02:00:09,839 Speaker 1: The head coach of that Falcons team was Dan Reeves, 2335 02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:14,120 Speaker 1: who appeared in nine Super Bowls, nine as a player, 2336 02:00:14,200 --> 02:00:17,120 Speaker 1: assistant coach, head coach. He died at his home in 2337 02:00:17,160 --> 02:00:21,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta on Saturday. He was seventy seven years old. Um, Reeves, 2338 02:00:22,160 --> 02:00:24,360 Speaker 1: you know this comes right on the heels of John Madden, 2339 02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:28,160 Speaker 1: and this is another guy like he's the face of 2340 02:00:28,240 --> 02:00:30,840 Speaker 1: an entire generation of football. He came into the league 2341 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,280 Speaker 1: with the Cowboys and had a great playing career, went 2342 02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:36,560 Speaker 1: into coaching, had that great run with the Broncos, obviously 2343 02:00:36,720 --> 02:00:41,200 Speaker 1: that produced multiple Super Bowl appearances. UM went to Atlanta. Well, 2344 02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:44,080 Speaker 1: went to the Giants, had some success there in the 2345 02:00:44,240 --> 02:00:47,720 Speaker 1: post parcels era of that franchise. Then of course went 2346 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:50,560 Speaker 1: to Atlanta and got them to one of the more 2347 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:53,920 Speaker 1: unlikely Super Bowl, UM making them one of the more 2348 02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:57,280 Speaker 1: unlikely Super Bowl teams ever. Two wins in his NFL 2349 02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,600 Speaker 1: coaching career, including the postseason, one of only nine coaches 2350 02:01:00,640 --> 02:01:04,520 Speaker 1: in NFL history with twos. Rest in peace, Dan Reeves, 2351 02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean Dan Reeves. I'll say one quick thing, like, 2352 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:11,720 Speaker 1: when I became a football fan, he was paired at 2353 02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:14,400 Speaker 1: the hip with John Elway as I watched the drive, 2354 02:01:14,520 --> 02:01:16,400 Speaker 1: the fumble, and then two years later a third a 2355 02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,160 Speaker 1: f C title game against Cleveland and a blowout, and 2356 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:21,280 Speaker 1: I was like, I really want to dislike this guy more, 2357 02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:25,040 Speaker 1: but he's not. He's likable, and here's something about him 2358 02:01:25,080 --> 02:01:26,880 Speaker 1: that kind of seemed to come from a different world 2359 02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:30,480 Speaker 1: of coach classy coach behavior. So I think he was 2360 02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:32,440 Speaker 1: just as about as well liked around the league as 2361 02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,680 Speaker 1: possible by players and the people that coached with him. 2362 02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Dan Reeves, Okay, thank you for listening. We're grinding through it. 2363 02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:46,280 Speaker 1: The whole world's grinding right now. We'll be back on 2364 02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Tuesday with another edition of Around the NFL to make 2365 02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:53,040 Speaker 1: sure you're there for that. As we begin to look 2366 02:01:53,080 --> 02:01:56,960 Speaker 1: ahead towards an unprecedented event in the history of our league. 2367 02:01:57,680 --> 02:02:04,440 Speaker 1: We buckle up, baby, all right? Are you excited? Mark? You? You? 2368 02:02:04,600 --> 02:02:07,520 Speaker 1: You know you you forgot that that big Week eight 2369 02:02:07,520 --> 02:02:10,520 Speaker 1: team back in when they had a couple of bye weeks, 2370 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:14,800 Speaker 1: remember that that was a fun time. Damn yeah. But 2371 02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,200 Speaker 1: that that also, that's different. That was two weeks off 2372 02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:19,440 Speaker 1: for every team and probably week off, you know, weeks 2373 02:02:19,480 --> 02:02:22,040 Speaker 1: off for various good little nugget there in a big 2374 02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,360 Speaker 1: spot there, Greg, I deserved to be corrected there, and 2375 02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,520 Speaker 1: you did it. I was gonna hold off if you 2376 02:02:26,680 --> 02:02:29,400 Speaker 1: just powered through. But then no, no, that's good. And 2377 02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,000 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we gave the listeners the 2378 02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:36,400 Speaker 1: correct information. This is not unprecedented. Week eighteen's back Baby 2379 02:02:36,680 --> 02:02:40,400 Speaker 1: with a vengeance, all right, this is Dan Hansis signing 2380 02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:44,400 Speaker 1: up for the old Boss, the Quiet Storm, the grave digger, 2381 02:02:44,600 --> 02:02:48,840 Speaker 1: taking shots behind that bulletroof glass. That's what the Titans 2382 02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,600 Speaker 1: are all about. That fan base coming after everybody now, 2383 02:02:52,600 --> 02:03:02,920 Speaker 1: and Ricky Hollywood until Tuesday even called s