WEBVTT - Mass Extinction: Earth's Cycle of Annihilation

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind from how Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>Works dot com. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Robert Lamb. Hey, this is Christian Seger Christian.

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<v Speaker 1>Where do you stand on mass extinction? Well, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a good thing. Yeah, yeah, just sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>regular sort of cleaning out of the lent catcher of

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<v Speaker 1>the of civilis exactly Cosmos Earth changing its oil every

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<v Speaker 1>couple of million years. Okay, all right, Today we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about mass extinctions, and in particular we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it in relation to Anteine Knewitz, who used

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<v Speaker 1>to be the other in chief over at Iona and

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<v Speaker 1>she's now at Gizmodo, both under the Gawker banner, I believe, uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And she has this great book called Scatter Adapt and

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<v Speaker 1>Remember how humans will survive a mass extinction. And so

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<v Speaker 1>what we're gonna do today is we're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the five mass extinctions that have already happened on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>We've already gone through five of them before human beings

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<v Speaker 1>were even walking around. The sixth one that we're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much with no doubt living in right now, and then

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<v Speaker 1>what nuances and some of the other articles that we

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<v Speaker 1>researched for this episode. Recommendations are for surviving the sixth

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<v Speaker 1>mass mass extinction that's coming up on us right because

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<v Speaker 1>they can be survived based on the ones we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>so far. You have such creatures as say the earthworm,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a champion of surviving mass extinction events. Exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, let's keep in mind that for a mass extinction,

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<v Speaker 1>what qualifies as one is that seventy of all species

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<v Speaker 1>go extinct in less than two million years, So that

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<v Speaker 1>leaves you know which earthworms would fall under. There's also

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<v Speaker 1>a really interesting creature that Annally talks about in her

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<v Speaker 1>book called the Listosaurus, and we'll get to there. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But I should qualify this by saying that, uh, last

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<v Speaker 1>your fallen. For our How Stuff Works video channel, I

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed and Antale about this book, and you can go

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<v Speaker 1>and watch that episode on our HSW channel right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about twenty minutes long, and I get to talk

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<v Speaker 1>with her personally about the book and her ideas, and

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<v Speaker 1>she's much more eloquent and steeped in this material than

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<v Speaker 1>than we are. But this is a fun discussion I

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<v Speaker 1>think for us to kind of piggyback on and bring

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<v Speaker 1>some of our how stuff works knowledge to the table

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Indeed, if you want to watch that video,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll make sure that there is a link to it

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<v Speaker 1>in the landing page for this episode. It's stuff to

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<v Speaker 1>bow your Mind dot Com. So okay, we established what

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<v Speaker 1>a mass extinction is. Uh, what are the two basic

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<v Speaker 1>causes for mass extinction? Well, there's usually inanimate physical world events, right, volcanoes,

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<v Speaker 1>climate changes, outer space debris. We all think of this

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<v Speaker 1>massive massive asteroids striking the planet and killing all the dinosaurs, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's basically the one that everybody kind of imagines. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's also long term to inches to biological life that

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<v Speaker 1>are affecting the ecosystems around us and killing off species. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are responsible for some of those. And then

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<v Speaker 1>in those five previous ones, which will go through shortly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that there was a lot of versions of

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<v Speaker 1>an invasive species that were destroying habitats and and subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>the species that lived within them. Yeah. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>always important to keep in mind that yes, humans and

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<v Speaker 1>and are and various other creatures live on Earth, but

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<v Speaker 1>we all we live in a very slim portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the atmosphere here on Earth, and you can break that

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<v Speaker 1>down even further, especially you know, depending on the particular species,

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<v Speaker 1>very small pockets of even that layer of atmosphere, depending

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<v Speaker 1>mon climate and an environment, So it becomes less of

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<v Speaker 1>a we are the creatures who live on this planet,

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<v Speaker 1>as we are the creatures who live in often very

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<v Speaker 1>small areas of this planet, and the in areas of

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<v Speaker 1>this planet that are susceptible to catastrophic change. And keep

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<v Speaker 1>in mind too, that these environmental changes we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>take sometimes a billion years, like these are it's the

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<v Speaker 1>the the time that these go through. It's unfathomable. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know about you, but from my human consciousness, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a hard time. Once we get to a million years,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know, it's it's all, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>great terrain after that. But these are huge amounts of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why we're fairly confident that we can say

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<v Speaker 1>that we're living in one right now, because keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>they're two million years long, so, uh, it's happening at

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<v Speaker 1>an incredibly slow pace to our human lives. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot easier to comprehend that space collision situation where

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<v Speaker 1>something snacks into the Earth and it brocks everything out,

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<v Speaker 1>or a you know, the volcano going that's erupting in

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<v Speaker 1>the background of that dinosaur illustration in our childhood paleontology books.

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<v Speaker 1>But we have to think about the long term changes

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<v Speaker 1>that steadily alter the environment and killed off the species

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<v Speaker 1>that have found their their niche within that environment. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's a little harder to comprehend. Yeah, absolutely, So let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at our five examples here. The first one is

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<v Speaker 1>the order vichi and extinction event. Uh. And this occurred

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere between four hundred and nine million years ago and

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<v Speaker 1>four hundred forty five million years ago. And the ideas

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, the world before that was the Cambrian period.

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<v Speaker 1>It was basically multicellular life evolving over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>millions of years. But what happened was this catastrophe that

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<v Speaker 1>some think was caused by cosmic rays from outer space.

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's qualify this. This isn't like cosmic rays from

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<v Speaker 1>some science fiction novel or comic book or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>This is energetic sub atomic particles that let's say they

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<v Speaker 1>were blasting us today, right, they would damage our DNA

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<v Speaker 1>and probably cause cancer within us. But they more importantly,

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<v Speaker 1>they could also affect the atmosphere, and that's what the

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<v Speaker 1>theory is that happened here in the order Vichyan period

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<v Speaker 1>was that they affected the atmosphere. They basically turned coastal

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<v Speaker 1>habitats into deserts, and most of the life forms that

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<v Speaker 1>were out there, these multi cellular life forms were marine based.

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<v Speaker 1>They were living in water, so their entire habitat was destroyed.

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<v Speaker 1>And we see the ice age because the world is

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<v Speaker 1>covered in these you know cloud cover. Basically that makes

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<v Speaker 1>everything colder and it freezes. So we see a massive

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<v Speaker 1>not a complete reset, but it's kind of kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a massive reboot of life on Earth. Life is just

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<v Speaker 1>finally getting to the point where it's evolving, uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a couple of different cells, and and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets blasted with ice. Yeah. Yeah, it's easy to I

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<v Speaker 1>guess to think about these two in terms of like

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<v Speaker 1>economic comparisons. You know, there's an economic downturn and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and what happened suddenly you know a number of positions

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<v Speaker 1>have to disappear at a particular place of work, which

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<v Speaker 1>leads to different two roles changing, which leads sometimes to

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<v Speaker 1>bigger opportunities for those that remain. Yeah, absolutely, but it

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<v Speaker 1>but it changes the playing field. Yeah, and there's you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>let's keep this in mind too, there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of control that any of the players involved have over this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we get to the second one then, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the Late Devonian extinction, and this is four hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen million years to three hundred and fifty eight million

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, And the basic cause of this one was

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<v Speaker 1>what we were mentioning earlier, invasive species. So the world

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, it's often referred to as Annalee had

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<v Speaker 1>talked to me about in our interview as the age

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<v Speaker 1>of fishes and um, there's some plant life on land,

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<v Speaker 1>but for the most part, again we're talking about marine life.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get this combination of earthquakes and volcanoes that

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<v Speaker 1>start pushing habitats into different areas of the world together,

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<v Speaker 1>and the habitats smashed together because of these natural disasters,

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<v Speaker 1>and you get these inland seas where predators start taking

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<v Speaker 1>over habitats that they didn't previously exist in. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>massive invasive species take over and the killop seventy of

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<v Speaker 1>the species that are existing in these previous ecosystems. From

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<v Speaker 1>an economic standpoint, you can think of this as see

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<v Speaker 1>the merger of two companies, Suddenly there are redundancies that

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<v Speaker 1>have to have to be dealt with. These both of

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<v Speaker 1>these uh, these individuals have the same job. Which one

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<v Speaker 1>is going to eat the other one? Uh? Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>and let's stick with this metaphor. I like this, So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>new species do not evolve for a long time after

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<v Speaker 1>this Devonian extinction period. So from this corporate perspective, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no new jobs being created, right, there's no new positions.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a lot of creativity within the organization. That

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<v Speaker 1>leads us to the Permian period, which is two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>million to two hundred and fifty one million years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the big uh. They refer to it

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<v Speaker 1>as the Great Dying, which I particularly like that name.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like some Norwegian black metal band. Yeah. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is basically the mega volcano era, right, So the

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<v Speaker 1>world is all getting pushed together again. There's these land

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<v Speaker 1>masses that are basically forming what we call Pangaea, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's this massive climate change and mega volcanoes, and the

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<v Speaker 1>mega volcanoes are belching out these toxic gases that go

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<v Speaker 1>into the atmosphere again, you know, very similar to the

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<v Speaker 1>cosmic rays creating these this cloud cover the species on

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<v Speaker 1>the planet die off. It takes seventy five to qualify

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<v Speaker 1>as a mass extinction. Got twenty more percent here, No

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<v Speaker 1>wonder is called the Great Dyeing. Yeah, like this is

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those examples where you can say

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<v Speaker 1>it came pretty close, almost wiped everything out. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 1>the world afterwards is basically the the ocean becomes acidified.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got what we would think of today as pollution,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's you know, caused by mega volcanoes and and

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<v Speaker 1>this this is this horrible gas that's everywhere in the

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<v Speaker 1>air and h effects that are similar to what we

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<v Speaker 1>would call global warming today. But the five percent survival though,

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<v Speaker 1>that's kind of like the corporation has been reduced to

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<v Speaker 1>a mere startup right right after thee And this is

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<v Speaker 1>what the startup consists of. This is this is anally

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<v Speaker 1>really spelled this out for me, and I liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>She said that some scientists refer to this era as

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<v Speaker 1>slime world because the main creatures of the five percent

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<v Speaker 1>that survived, or what we would refer to as slimes. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So you've got these slimes that are moving around this

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<v Speaker 1>black sludge basically right, and then crocodiles. So this it's

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<v Speaker 1>not a friendly place. Is this barely breathable habitat full

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<v Speaker 1>of slime and crocodiles. Uh. And that goes on until

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<v Speaker 1>we've got the early Triassic period two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million to two hundred and twenty million years ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is where we start seeing the early evolution of

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<v Speaker 1>dinosaurs again. Egg of volcanoes come into play. They start

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<v Speaker 1>blowing up, pushing continents around, and you know, habitats are destroyed. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So as these habitats get pushed together, food webs, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the relationships between these different animals and and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the flora within their regions start unraveling essentially. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In Annally's book, she has a great example of the

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<v Speaker 1>one animal that survives this. This is this is the

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<v Speaker 1>survivor that we should look to as an example for

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<v Speaker 1>our own case of living through the sixth mass extinction.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called the listrous saurus and it's basically this is

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<v Speaker 1>the description from the book an ancestral or no, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you added this one an ancestral shovel lizard. Added a lizard. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love that description. Shovel lizards. So basically it's faces

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<v Speaker 1>a shovel, right that survived. It kind of looked like

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<v Speaker 1>it was about the size of a pig, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was mammal like reptile aisle, Right, it had like strands

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<v Speaker 1>of hair and stuff like that. But I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>qualified as a reptile. And but here's how it survived.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of its shovel face. It was able to burrow

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<v Speaker 1>its way underground and survive all of these you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pushing around of land masses and the various you know

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<v Speaker 1>problems with breathing in the air and also the the

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<v Speaker 1>invasive species. And uh so what they do is they

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<v Speaker 1>basically go underground, and they had this special way of

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<v Speaker 1>breathing so that they could breathe really well underground with

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<v Speaker 1>low oxygen levels, even if there was dusty airborne contaminants.

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<v Speaker 1>So they adapted essentially to survive in this world. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing that was really fascinating about the

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<v Speaker 1>listener store is not a picky eater would basically eat

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<v Speaker 1>anything that came across. So, you know, as it's shoveling

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<v Speaker 1>around under the earth, I'm picturing, Uh, what are those

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<v Speaker 1>creatures from D and D that that like, uh tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>around there? Like called land sharks or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I'm trying to now I'm thinking of all

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<v Speaker 1>the different under dark creatures. Number hulk lister source is

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<v Speaker 1>a good D and D monster. That we should add

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<v Speaker 1>that to somebody's campaigns someday. Yeah. I love the the

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<v Speaker 1>idea too, that it it survived because it was essentially

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<v Speaker 1>a generalist, because that also kind of that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>falls into the whole economic corporate structure as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>one that I often fall back on when I when I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, start thinking about, you know, where I am

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<v Speaker 1>in a particular place, and I'm thinking, all right, I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, make sure that I don't have all my

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<v Speaker 1>my tools in one basketing know, exactly a journalist because

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<v Speaker 1>jack of all trades, master of not Yeah. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the list of source for you. It's the long term employee. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you want to be when the when the

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<v Speaker 1>cuts come? Do you want to be the social media

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<v Speaker 1>specialist or the tumbler specialist? You know? Right? Yeah? Like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes it can behoove you to specialize, but

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<v Speaker 1>don't specialize so much that you're the you know, you're

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<v Speaker 1>essentially this one creature that has survived to live in

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<v Speaker 1>a very particular uh you know, tidle pool. And when

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<v Speaker 1>that title pool dries up your toast, you're the first

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<v Speaker 1>one to get the axe. In mass extinctions and incorporations,

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<v Speaker 1>life lessons from stuff to blow your mind. Uhl SOO,

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<v Speaker 1>then we get to the one. This is the one

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody knows about, right, that's the fifth one. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the one we all think of. It's the Cretaceous

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<v Speaker 1>period a hundred and forty five million to sixty five

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<v Speaker 1>million years ago. This is the meteorite impact striking basically destroying. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There's massive impact in what today is Baja California. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and it kills off the dinosaurs. Right. This is the

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<v Speaker 1>like Land before Time Jurassic Park, the one that's really

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<v Speaker 1>hammered it into our heads. And uh, there's an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>thing here though, that's going on. In Antalye's book, she

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<v Speaker 1>says that between scientists that study this particular era, there's

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<v Speaker 1>some contention that it, yes, there was definitely some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of impact in that area of the world, and yes

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<v Speaker 1>that probably contribute it did to, you know, an extinction

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<v Speaker 1>of of certain species. But they also think that there

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<v Speaker 1>were some more mega volcanoes going on more likely in India,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's easy to think about again, like let's

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<v Speaker 1>get to this idea of it's really easy to think

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<v Speaker 1>about this huge asteroid striking Earth and just killing everybody

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<v Speaker 1>in one fell swoop, right, but it Yeah, those that

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<v Speaker 1>were in the general area of impact were killed instantly.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not where we're seeing the extinction. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>where the sevent of species are dying off. It is

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<v Speaker 1>the world afterwards, because you get this again, slow process

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<v Speaker 1>of climate change makes it really hard for plants to grow,

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<v Speaker 1>subsequently makes it really hard for animals to find something

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<v Speaker 1>to eat, and then the carnivorous animals who are eating

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<v Speaker 1>the other animals subsequently don't have a lot to eat.

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<v Speaker 1>So again food food webs are unraveling. There's just not

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<v Speaker 1>a lot left. Yeah, I mean we're talking about for

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<v Speaker 1>the most part, with these volcano examples and the and

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<v Speaker 1>the impact examples, it's it's less about getting trapped in

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<v Speaker 1>the lava floor. We're getting hit by the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>collides with the earth as much as the material that's

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<v Speaker 1>dejected into the atmosphere. The sort of nuclear winter scenario

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<v Speaker 1>where where there's just less some light reaching the earth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting, Like, uh, I'm thinking about disaster movies right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and like we have this sort of obsession with them

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<v Speaker 1>in in in popular culture right now. Like I think

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<v Speaker 1>San Andreas comes out this weekend, which is the movie

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<v Speaker 1>that features the Rock rescuing his family from the Big

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<v Speaker 1>one in California. Uh and um yeah, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when there's a big earthquake like that, of course lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people are going to die, but the after effects

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<v Speaker 1>are what's going to really affect the larger community, the

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<v Speaker 1>entire ecosystem of the planet. Yeah, especially when you start

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<v Speaker 1>stealing seeing these these the spiraling collapse as the webs

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<v Speaker 1>begin to unravel. Yeah. All right, we've taken you on

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<v Speaker 1>just a roller coaster ride through the five extinction events

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<v Speaker 1>that have occurred so far. Uh. And now we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss the sixth great extinction event. Uh, one that

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<v Speaker 1>we may be living in right now that may not

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<v Speaker 1>you know, consists of some sort of cosmic calamity just

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<v Speaker 1>wiping things out, but rather the slow process that has

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<v Speaker 1>a lot, if not everything, to do with the human civilization. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the key, Like with those other ones, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much about the slow you know, again, a mass

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<v Speaker 1>extinction requires two million years for the breakdown. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we look at the sort of longitudinal uh, what

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<v Speaker 1>what is called the background extinction rate. So this is basically, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>all the time species are dying out right, not because

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<v Speaker 1>of mass extinctions. It's just part of the natural order

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<v Speaker 1>of things. You know, species die, new species come come forth. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's they're always going on. But the background extinction

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<v Speaker 1>rate has been higher. There's been a huge spike in

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<v Speaker 1>numbers since the Cretaceous period. So actually, if you go

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at at our how Stuff Works articles

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<v Speaker 1>on mass extinction, surviving mass extinction, things that are causing

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<v Speaker 1>the six mass extinction, there's some interesting stuff in there

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And our colleague Jonathan Strickland from tech Stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and Forward Thinking actually wrote one of those pieces, and

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<v Speaker 1>he cited a statistic that says that the background extinction

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<v Speaker 1>rate for speechies is somewhere between a hundred to a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand times greater than it should be. Uh. And he

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<v Speaker 1>cited Harvard biologist Edward O. Wilson as being somebody who

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<v Speaker 1>estimated that we're looking at thirty thousand species going extinct

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<v Speaker 1>every year. Uh, And so you know, we're still under

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<v Speaker 1>the seventy five percent threshold range. But that's faster than normal.

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<v Speaker 1>Another another statistic here is that the background rate is happening.

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<v Speaker 1>They're on the average. It's point one extinctions per million

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<v Speaker 1>species per year. Okay, this is this is how people

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<v Speaker 1>have studied this. Look at it. It's actually quantified as

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<v Speaker 1>e over m s y extinctions per million species per

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<v Speaker 1>year UM. But the current rate is somewhere again, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, between a hundred and a thousand, so we're

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<v Speaker 1>far over what you know, the average is there. So okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we know that our background extinction rate is significantly

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<v Speaker 1>higher than it should be. Right. Uh, let's let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a look in the same way that we looked at

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<v Speaker 1>those other extinctions at the world before. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>we had, and you know what we're looking at now.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'll remember it all takes a seventy

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<v Speaker 1>five species in two million years. Uh, and we're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at you know, there's like roughly you know, five major signs,

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<v Speaker 1>but there's all kinds of other external reasons that could

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<v Speaker 1>cause our mass extinctions. Right, And do you want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk a little bit about the age of man and

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<v Speaker 1>how you know we're coming into that. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>this is a vital piece of the puzzle here because, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>many people refer to this age that we're living in now,

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<v Speaker 1>this age, potentially of the sixth grade extinction event, is

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<v Speaker 1>the anthropasyne era, the the age of man, because humans

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<v Speaker 1>are now the dominant force of change on Earth or

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<v Speaker 1>not just augmenting our physical selves, but but we're also

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<v Speaker 1>augmenting the land around us from ancient aqueducts and cloud seating, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know on up until you know the agricultural revolution. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you go back, you know, even before agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just look at us killing off the mammoths, right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're hunting the mammoths. And then when we kill off

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<v Speaker 1>the mammoths, it allows birch to grow unconsumed and erase

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<v Speaker 1>much of the grassland. Uh. And then and these and

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<v Speaker 1>the trees then change the color of the landscape, making

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<v Speaker 1>it much darker so that it absorbs more of the

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<v Speaker 1>sun's heat and this heats at the air. Um. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this process would have added to natural climate change,

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<v Speaker 1>making it harder for the mammoths to cope and helping

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<v Speaker 1>the birch tree spread further. Which I love this example

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<v Speaker 1>because it shows that even even primitive humans just doing

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<v Speaker 1>the most primitive thing possible, just spearing a bunch of mammoths.

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<v Speaker 1>Right in doing that, we we just dropped the balance

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<v Speaker 1>and we begin kind of paraforming the world into a

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<v Speaker 1>new form. It's the classic invasive species conundrum basics, because

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<v Speaker 1>we are the big invasive species we are, and not

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<v Speaker 1>only are we an invasive invasive species, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>also moving other life forms out of their natural habitats

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<v Speaker 1>and into other ones because we find them aesthetically pleasing. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, an example that is often used as the

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<v Speaker 1>kudzoo plant in Southern America where we live right now.

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<v Speaker 1>It was brought here and it's taking over chunks of

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<v Speaker 1>the entire United States since the late eight hundreds because

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<v Speaker 1>people brought it here. I thought that it was appealing,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's everywhere, right Like, man, I can't like

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<v Speaker 1>walk down the street in Atlanta without seeing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a house or a wall overgrown with kad zoo. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>there's even yeah, it's everywhere. Yeah, I mean even some

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<v Speaker 1>of the tolerated things in our neck of the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>The English ivy. People love English ivy, but it's it's horriful.

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<v Speaker 1>What you know kills trees, that it's it's invasive. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite examples. I actually did an episode

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<v Speaker 1>about this for Brain Stuff. Uh raccoons. So um, this

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<v Speaker 1>is I'll try to make this brief, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect example of human beings causing an invasive species

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<v Speaker 1>problems a problem. So in Japan in the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>there's this cartoon featured this cute cartoon raccoon Okay, and

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<v Speaker 1>Japanese importers said, wow, like people really love this cartoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start importing raccoons from the United States. They're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make great pets. And of course they're not domesticated animals.

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<v Speaker 1>So these families would go out and buy raccoons and

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, they were fairal animals basically, and they

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't domesticate them. They didn't they couldn't live with them,

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<v Speaker 1>so the raccoons either escaped or they were let out.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, Japan is facing this huge crisis of raccoon

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<v Speaker 1>proportions because they have raccoons all throughout the forests in Japan,

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<v Speaker 1>and there um in particular a problem because they're attacking

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<v Speaker 1>the historical landmarks in Japan like temples and such um

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<v Speaker 1>not attacking. It's not like these raccoons are like rising up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Planet of the Raccoons. But they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially as an invasive, invasive species moving in on this

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<v Speaker 1>territory and destroying this the habitat. They're destroying the buildings

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<v Speaker 1>that are around them, They're burrowing into them, making their

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<v Speaker 1>new homes there. And Japan has this huge problem where

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<v Speaker 1>they're just constantly trying to catch and unfortunately kill all

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<v Speaker 1>these raccoons because they just can't. The population is growing

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<v Speaker 1>so quickly just since the seventies that they can't deal

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<v Speaker 1>with it. It's the raccoons pushing it out. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean when it comes to invasive species, and it brings

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<v Speaker 1>to mind the earlier examples we were talking about where

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<v Speaker 1>you had to have like masses of land converging and

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<v Speaker 1>drifting apart for these kind of invasive situations to take place.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh literally mountains were being moved to facilitate this. But

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<v Speaker 1>humans have so altered life on this earth that they

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<v Speaker 1>just do it by just moving around, by transporting materials

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<v Speaker 1>bye bye, you know, sometimes accidentally, such as the lionfish

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<v Speaker 1>being an example, Well that was kind of a combination

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<v Speaker 1>because on one hand you have people saying, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>lionfish is beautiful, I want to keep it in an aquarium. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you also have people you just have international

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<v Speaker 1>shipping affecting it because even though it's a beautiful, delicate

0:24:46.240 --> 0:24:49.679
<v Speaker 1>looking creature, it's extremely hardy and it can survive, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>stuck away in the bulge of a ship. So on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>by accident, we end up just mixing everything around, and

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<v Speaker 1>uh in a number of species, a lot of species

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be unable to flow with that change.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a huge contributing factor to this this

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<v Speaker 1>current mass extinction that we're living in. It's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's happened before with invasive species moving in on other habitats,

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<v Speaker 1>but in this case it's you know, often because of

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.320
<v Speaker 1>our intervention that we're moving these things around and and

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<v Speaker 1>knocking out the the ecosystem that's in place. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>just to a couple other facts, we just drive home

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<v Speaker 1>how much we have influenced the world. Um By at

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<v Speaker 1>least eight of Earth's land surface had been directly affected

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<v Speaker 1>by humans, and as of two thousand five, humans had

0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>built so many dams the nearly six times as much

0:25:42.320 --> 0:25:46.760
<v Speaker 1>water was held in storage as flowed freely through rivers.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, listeners out there probably thinking, Okay, these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are on the blame the human train. It's all our fault, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I am at least, But well it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a compliment, right, I mean, because human humans here,

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<v Speaker 1>we are pilot successful at what we set out to

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<v Speaker 1>do exactly. But it's, uh, the thing we set out

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<v Speaker 1>to do was like by its very nature, um like

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<v Speaker 1>world shaping and world destroying, and when we get to it,

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.480
<v Speaker 1>this may be what saves us as well. But there

0:26:18.520 --> 0:26:21.080
<v Speaker 1>are other factors that are going onto that aren't necessarily

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.280
<v Speaker 1>caused by humans. And other is that our oceans are

0:26:23.400 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 1>changing again it's it's it's habitat loss, but it's not

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.359
<v Speaker 1>on the land, right, So there's these massive changes that

0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:32.719
<v Speaker 1>are happening. So, for example, half the coral reefs on

0:26:32.880 --> 0:26:37.320
<v Speaker 1>Earth have been destroyed h and about a third of

0:26:37.440 --> 0:26:41.439
<v Speaker 1>mangrove forest as of those like underground underwater forests that

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:44.480
<v Speaker 1>you know you see like a manateese swimming thread or

0:26:44.520 --> 0:26:47.439
<v Speaker 1>something like that. I don't know, Uh, those have been

0:26:47.440 --> 0:26:50.159
<v Speaker 1>destroyed as well, right there their home to land and

0:26:50.280 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 1>sea animals you're thinking of, I'm thinking of like otters.

0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:55.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm assuming I don't know off the top of my head.

0:26:55.359 --> 0:26:59.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not a marine biologist, but some kind of air

0:26:59.119 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>breathing land animal that that works within this ecosystem together

0:27:02.560 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 1>with the marine life that's there. Right. Uh. And in addition, okay,

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 1>this is human beings. Over fishing has led to two

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 1>thirds of the world's marine fisheries being tapped to their limits.

0:27:13.200 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>So again we're missing with things a little bit. But

0:27:16.040 --> 0:27:21.000
<v Speaker 1>there's there's stuff going on at a long term rate

0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 1>that we're not necessarily affecting either. Right. And another one

0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>that I here is of course a loss of biodiversity,

0:27:27.119 --> 0:27:32.400
<v Speaker 1>which has everything to do with agriculture. Uh. We we have. Agriculture,

0:27:32.400 --> 0:27:36.240
<v Speaker 1>of course, is by its very nature an artificial you know,

0:27:36.320 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>manipulation of vegetation to say, hey, we really like that

0:27:40.480 --> 0:27:42.280
<v Speaker 1>a little potato crop that's grown over there. We really

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like these red berries. They're pretty delicious. Let's have an

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:48.760
<v Speaker 1>entire portion of land that grows nothing but that in

0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>an artificially maintained scenario. And uh, And then you end

0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:57.399
<v Speaker 1>up depending on one particular strain of that species, and

0:27:57.440 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that becomes the dominant um uh, you know, basically the

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.919
<v Speaker 1>dominant life form on huge pieces of land. Yeah. Anally

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.520
<v Speaker 1>uses as an example for for this. Uh. You know,

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it seems like a long time ago, but the Irish

0:28:11.080 --> 0:28:14.399
<v Speaker 1>potato famine of eighteen forty five within the grand scheme

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of two million years, it's not a whole lot of

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.840
<v Speaker 1>time has past. But cheese is an example to show

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:25.359
<v Speaker 1>how habitat loss and extinction or at least uh death

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you know by famine uh, can be caused by two

0:28:29.920 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 1>things that are going on. You've got a lower population, right,

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and then there's class divisions that are going on that

0:28:37.119 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>are sort of deciding who gets access to the food, right,

0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>and then that subsequently leads to airborne fungus that spreads

0:28:46.840 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>disease and so on. So you know, we're really looking

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:54.640
<v Speaker 1>at industrial farming nowadays as playing a huge role in this.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 1>It's replacing this diverse population of plants that we have

0:28:58.800 --> 0:29:01.320
<v Speaker 1>with a single crop that were raising for you know,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the purposes of selling them the grocery store basically, which

0:29:04.000 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>means you're highly susceptible to one microbe one of these

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>coming along and just wiping that out. What if something

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>takes up corn? Yeah, because we increasingly depend on one

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:16.920
<v Speaker 1>strain of corn. I mean, that's why there are efforts

0:29:16.920 --> 0:29:21.480
<v Speaker 1>to maintain these additional strains of corn in the protected

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:24.080
<v Speaker 1>places so that we have that genetic diversity to fall

0:29:24.080 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 1>back on. Yeah. Yeah, that's scary just on its own, right,

0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:30.720
<v Speaker 1>But um, let's add a fourth one to the mix.

0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:36.360
<v Speaker 1>And this is again, this is not a human a

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 1>human error here. This is the one that we know

0:29:39.200 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>from the Cretaceous period, the asteroid impact. Right, this is

0:29:42.080 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>your arm again, this is your deep impact movie scenario. So, um,

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>we're actually do for one of these. NASA essentially says

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.520
<v Speaker 1>that asteroids that are you know, that are big enough

0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 1>to cause the Cretaceous period extinction event. They're supposed to

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>strike the Earth every million years. In our dou dates

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>come up, we haven't had one, and um, so we're

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>just kind of crossing our fingures waiting to get hit

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.160
<v Speaker 1>by a big rock from outer space. The one of

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 1>the thing about this particular threat, this particular extinction events scenario,

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>is that we increasingly have the ability to to to

0:30:20.840 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>track these these near Earth objects. We increasingly have the

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:29.040
<v Speaker 1>ability to launch the kind of countermeasures that could prevent

0:30:29.080 --> 0:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>them once spotted. Uh, neither neither of those efforts are

0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>are funded to the extent they should be, which is

0:30:36.680 --> 0:30:38.800
<v Speaker 1>crazy when you realize that that of all these things

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.680
<v Speaker 1>like these this is in the movies, there's always a

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>hero of saving the world, doing something heroic to save

0:30:44.240 --> 0:30:48.320
<v Speaker 1>the world. Historically, like no living actual person has ever

0:30:48.440 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>saved the world. But this is a scenario where we could,

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.560
<v Speaker 1>like like a particular effort, a particular organization could save

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:57.920
<v Speaker 1>the world or a whole lot of people in it

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 1>from annihilation by a near Earth object. Yeah, but we're

0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>not there yet. Yeah, no, we're not. I mean, that's

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>all episode for another time. But obviously, you know, the

0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 1>NASA and other national space organizations aren't getting the funding

0:31:13.280 --> 0:31:16.760
<v Speaker 1>they need to sort of defend US, I guess at large.

0:31:16.800 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 1>But this is you know, something that analegue gets into later,

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:23.920
<v Speaker 1>is that outer space is really going to be uh

0:31:23.960 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>the long term goal here for us development of travel

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>throughout space, paying attention to what's going on around the

0:31:31.160 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>planet Earth. That's going to be a huge factor in

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.520
<v Speaker 1>making sure that the human species survives. Yeah, and also

0:31:37.560 --> 0:31:39.840
<v Speaker 1>in terms of just like moving up the Cardassian scale,

0:31:39.920 --> 0:31:43.080
<v Speaker 1>like we have to master the planet and in a

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in a real and meaningful sense and not just oops,

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.960
<v Speaker 1>we screwed everything else up on the planet. So there's

0:31:51.080 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>a fifth one here that I think is a pretty

0:31:52.840 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 1>big one, and you know, we'd be remiss if we

0:31:55.080 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 1>ignored it, which is the rising temperature caused by dun

0:31:57.680 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>dun dune global warming. Um. And we're not going to

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>get into the debates of its origin. You know, obviously

0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of conflicting reports back and forth of

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>what scientists say or politicians say about this one way

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>or the other. But let's just stick with this one fact, okay.

0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>So it all it takes is a shift of one

0:32:18.040 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 1>degree celsius, which is for us in America one point

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 1>degrees fahrenheit one point eight sorry, one point eight degrees fahrenheit.

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:29.360
<v Speaker 1>That alone would lead to thirty percent of Earth's species

0:32:29.400 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>being wiped out forever. So uh, you know, depending on

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.239
<v Speaker 1>where you stand on global warming, just know that, you know,

0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 1>all it takes is that one little nudge on the

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:44.760
<v Speaker 1>temperature scale and boom, it's just gone. Because again, like

0:32:45.120 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>so many creatures, essentially live in a metaphorical tidal pool,

0:32:49.920 --> 0:32:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and it doesn't take much to make that pool just vanish. Entirely.

0:32:54.120 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So you've got a couple of examples that are like

0:32:57.120 --> 0:33:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the asteroid one outer space kind of cosmic events. Let's

0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 1>let's let's think a little bigger. Let's think Jack Kirby here.

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 1>So what have we got? Well for starters, if a

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.080
<v Speaker 1>sufficiently large nearby star or to burn out, the resulting

0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>hyper nova could theoretically blast the Earth with enough gamma

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:17.479
<v Speaker 1>radiation to destroy our ozone layer, and that would expose

0:33:17.520 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>us to deadly doses of solar radiation. So that's uh,

0:33:20.800 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that's a potential factor there. So okay, so another reason

0:33:24.240 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>for us to be paying more attention to what's going

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:29.160
<v Speaker 1>on matter space. Yeah, yeah, I mean this this would

0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:34.240
<v Speaker 1>be an example of one that would be less uh less,

0:33:34.320 --> 0:33:37.440
<v Speaker 1>less easily diverted. It's not a matter of incoming object.

0:33:37.520 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Can we just sort of nudge it off course? But

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously the more we know about it, the better position

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:46.200
<v Speaker 1>we are to understand what's happening. Then maybe we would

0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.680
<v Speaker 1>be able to devise some means to shield the planet.

0:33:49.640 --> 0:33:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Another similar event, Uh, there's an orange dwarf dubbed Glease

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>seven ten, and it poses another threat. Astronomers predicted that

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 1>this rogue star may barrel into our corner of the

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>galaxy roughly one point five million years from now, So

0:34:04.400 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 1>we're looking out a little um shredding the Orc cloud

0:34:08.280 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 1>on the outskirts of our Solar system and pelting us

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 1>with comets formed from the impact. So it's not the

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>star itself, but it's the resulting commets that are going

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 1>to basically hit us like mortar fire basically, and indeed

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.680
<v Speaker 1>the stress that we put on leaving the planet. And

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:28.319
<v Speaker 1>that's in roughly seven point six billion years, the Sun

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>will burn through the last of its fuel and swell

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 1>into a red giant, and in this form, the Sun's

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 1>diameter will encompass Earth's current orbit and vaporize the planet awesome. Now,

0:34:38.680 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>before that occurs, however, scientists predicted the Sun's a slow

0:34:42.719 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>expansion will raise temperatures and boil the oceans dry, uh

0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>essentially turning Earth into a desert world in a mere

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>five hundred million years, And some estimations are predicted that

0:34:54.800 --> 0:34:58.680
<v Speaker 1>the Earth, unbound by the Sun's decreased mass, will actually

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 1>then drift out into an out or orbit safe from

0:35:01.719 --> 0:35:04.719
<v Speaker 1>the expansion of the Sun. But again, yeah, what the

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>catastrophic effects there are are pretty staggering, like the ocean's

0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 1>freezing solid. Uh and you know life on Earth consisting

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:15.520
<v Speaker 1>of only you know, some creatures huddled around up a

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:18.600
<v Speaker 1>hyperthermal vent. So we'll have have to have gotten off

0:35:18.640 --> 0:35:21.719
<v Speaker 1>the planet well before then, yeah, or or figure out

0:35:21.719 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>a way to move it, which is another sort of

0:35:24.600 --> 0:35:27.239
<v Speaker 1>far future possibility, like what can you do in terms

0:35:27.239 --> 0:35:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of moving us, moving the planet and rolling with these

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 1>long term cosmic catastrophes that are just a part of

0:35:35.160 --> 0:35:38.319
<v Speaker 1>the life cycle of a solar system. Okay, so let's

0:35:38.320 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>get into next. What we'll talk about is how we're

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:43.759
<v Speaker 1>going to survive this thing, what strategies are in place,

0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 1>and in particular, Knewances book really you know, focuses on

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:49.160
<v Speaker 1>this and the title of her book is is um

0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 1>useful here? Scatter? Adapt? And remember, those are the strategies

0:35:53.400 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 1>at hand. We've we've talked about the five extinction events

0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>that have occurred, We've talked about the sixth that we're

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:03.799
<v Speaker 1>involved in right now, the steady um transformation of the

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>planet into a less hospitable form, as well as some

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:12.840
<v Speaker 1>of the you know, truly cosmic cataclysms that potentially await

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.799
<v Speaker 1>us and in some cases definitely await us in the

0:36:15.840 --> 0:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>far future. So all right, looking at all of this

0:36:20.120 --> 0:36:23.080
<v Speaker 1>death and destruction that's happened on Earth, that is happening

0:36:23.160 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>on Earth and that will happen on Earth really makes

0:36:27.239 --> 0:36:29.319
<v Speaker 1>me kind of back up. And you know, you hear

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the term cosmic horror get thrown a lot, especially in

0:36:33.200 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>the wake of love Crafts contribution to literature. This is

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.760
<v Speaker 1>cosmic horror. When you think about this on the scale

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:44.120
<v Speaker 1>and the magnitude that it's happening at, it makes you

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:49.120
<v Speaker 1>feel utterly insignificant. There's nothing we can do to stop it. Yeah,

0:36:49.160 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean I actually when when we were researching this,

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.759
<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking back to um uh to Lovecraft and

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Clark Ashton Smith and in some of their stories like

0:36:56.800 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about like well, first came the lizard men, and

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>then came the you know, this cosmic entity you know,

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:04.320
<v Speaker 1>just talking about like life forms that were in habiting

0:37:04.840 --> 0:37:07.600
<v Speaker 1>uh some you know, fictional version of the Earth, and

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in dealing with such like long periods of time that

0:37:10.760 --> 0:37:14.879
<v Speaker 1>the human life and human accomplishments were just so insignificant. Yeah,

0:37:15.040 --> 0:37:16.960
<v Speaker 1>and that you kind of feel the same way when

0:37:17.000 --> 0:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you start looking at these extinction events that have come

0:37:19.480 --> 0:37:23.400
<v Speaker 1>before and the extinction events to come. Absolutely it reminds

0:37:23.440 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 1>me of m have you ever heard of? This is

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 1>an English professor, uh, well known Marxist philosopher. I guess

0:37:30.800 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>you could call him Frederick Jamison, uh, and he has

0:37:34.200 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>this This isn't an exact quote, but this is one

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.680
<v Speaker 1>of these things that they throw at you in graduate school,

0:37:39.239 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>is that the apocalypse is easier for us to imagine

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>something like this, right than living in a post capitalist society.

0:37:47.440 --> 0:37:50.799
<v Speaker 1>So it's easier for us to imagine this mass extinction

0:37:51.360 --> 0:37:57.000
<v Speaker 1>this world without us, these uh, huge scenarios where we're

0:37:57.040 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>completely insignificant than than his This is his Marxist argument obviously.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:04.879
<v Speaker 1>Then then in a world that's like a that's not

0:38:05.080 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>based on this sort of capitalist economy that we currently

0:38:08.800 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>live within, right, So like uh, I guess the counterpoint

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>to him would be like the Star Trek world where

0:38:14.719 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>everybody's got access to the replicators and they can just

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>make food and there's no problems. They're able to fly

0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:27.879
<v Speaker 1>away from their mass extinction events and perfectly survive them. Yeah,

0:38:27.920 --> 0:38:29.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean it kind of plays into our

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>our love affair with apocalypse, right, that we were often

0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:36.800
<v Speaker 1>drawn to these tales of some catascostic, some cataclysmic event,

0:38:37.560 --> 0:38:42.160
<v Speaker 1>setting the reboot button on on life as we know it. Um,

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, if nothing else, you know, you have a

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:45.960
<v Speaker 1>bad day of work and you're like, I wish an

0:38:45.960 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>asteroid would hit my employment. Yeah right, Well, turns out

0:38:52.520 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>all that cosmic horror isn't necessarily as bad as we

0:38:55.840 --> 0:38:59.200
<v Speaker 1>think it is. Okay, We're not as insignificant as it feels.

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 1>So from Antaline Knewitz his book, there are some recommendations

0:39:03.800 --> 0:39:07.000
<v Speaker 1>for how we might you know, look back and learn

0:39:07.120 --> 0:39:10.680
<v Speaker 1>from species like the Lister source that had survived extinctions

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.920
<v Speaker 1>and learned from them like directly, like live underground. We

0:39:13.960 --> 0:39:16.759
<v Speaker 1>could we could like make shovel faces and attach them

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>to to our heads and just dig underground. I don't

0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:21.840
<v Speaker 1>know that that would help us with every type of

0:39:21.880 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>extinction event, especially when the Sun swallows the Earth and

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of millions. Well, you know, I think we should,

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>we should consider even the most mad science of Well, definitely,

0:39:31.440 --> 0:39:35.000
<v Speaker 1>we'll have the shovel Head Division get on it. At

0:39:35.000 --> 0:39:37.799
<v Speaker 1>the same time that we're in our ideal world, we

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:42.239
<v Speaker 1>have taxes funding two things, NASA and shovel heads. You know,

0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 1>I feel like this was a sadly unexplored to a

0:39:46.239 --> 0:39:50.160
<v Speaker 1>certain extent plot in the second season of American Horror Story.

0:39:50.719 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 1>You had the Mad Scientists character who I loved, uh,

0:39:54.200 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and he was making these mutants James Cromwell to James

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>Cromwell character. His character's name eludes me, but yeah, like

0:40:01.239 --> 0:40:04.680
<v Speaker 1>a former Nazi doctor, and he wanted to make this

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:09.920
<v Speaker 1>race of mutants that would survive comic becoming Atomic Apocalypse. Um,

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I think we should keep all options on

0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:16.040
<v Speaker 1>the table. Yeah, alright, well I'm writing down shovel head. Shovelheads,

0:40:16.480 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 1>just consider it everyone. But in the more more more immediately,

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.400
<v Speaker 1>what knew its recommends is that we look at her first.

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:27.879
<v Speaker 1>Phrasing for this is scattering. Essentially. The example for this

0:40:28.080 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>is ethnic diasporas right, So, a diaspora, the aspora is

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>a geographical dispersion of people separated from their homeland. Right.

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>And then one of the most often used examples of

0:40:40.000 --> 0:40:43.520
<v Speaker 1>this is the Jewish diaspora. Um that's told through the

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.120
<v Speaker 1>holiday of Passover. Right. The story is passed on every generation.

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the story of Moses and the ten plagues within

0:40:49.920 --> 0:40:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Egypt and how Jews fled from Egypt for forty years

0:40:53.600 --> 0:40:56.279
<v Speaker 1>wandering throughout the desert until they eventually found Israel. So

0:40:56.360 --> 0:40:59.360
<v Speaker 1>people are displaced, their force to go to different geographic

0:40:59.400 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>corners of the Earth. They're forced to, to a certain extent,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>merge without a cultures while also retaining some level of

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>their own cultural And so her recommendation is that this

0:41:09.120 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is something that we as a species human beings should

0:41:13.080 --> 0:41:15.839
<v Speaker 1>start coming to terms with and and thinking about as

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a strategy. Right, it's scattering essentially, whether it is across

0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the globe or out into the stars somewhere. Uh. And

0:41:25.560 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>so even you know, her recommendation here is, you know,

0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:32.520
<v Speaker 1>look at Passover as an example that even if whatever

0:41:32.680 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 1>ethnic group or or species in this case has unwillingly

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>been torn apart by disastrous events or what have you, Um,

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>your children will remember where they came from hundreds of

0:41:44.520 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 1>years down the road. Okay, So, um, Passover has passed

0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>down this this this tradition of memory essentially. Okay, So

0:41:52.600 --> 0:41:56.319
<v Speaker 1>even though you were a mutated shovel head creature that

0:41:56.400 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>we genetically modified to live on an extraterrestrial world, doesn't

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 1>mean you can't celebrate past them exactly. Yeah, They'll be

0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like a new holiday that the shovel heads can celebrate

0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>and and remember you know what life was like on

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Earth when we recorded ye old podcasts. Yeah, I think

0:42:13.800 --> 0:42:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I love this idea because a lot of it is

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:18.799
<v Speaker 1>about just recognizing, like the change is part of life

0:42:18.800 --> 0:42:21.080
<v Speaker 1>on Earth in a central part. And you can't take

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.800
<v Speaker 1>any particular phase and evolution or even in human culture

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:27.000
<v Speaker 1>and say this is we want to stick right here.

0:42:27.040 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>We don't want to draw any more cards into our hand,

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and we don't want to discard. We want to stick

0:42:31.000 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 1>with this hand. No, you have to keep playing the game. Essentially,

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.399
<v Speaker 1>what she's saying is is exactly that, right, Like, we

0:42:37.480 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>can't just sit on our laurels and be satisfied with

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the exact world that we live in now and think

0:42:45.000 --> 0:42:47.000
<v Speaker 1>that that's going to go on forever, because it's not

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:51.680
<v Speaker 1>regardless of extinction level events or not. Uh, we have

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:54.560
<v Speaker 1>to change in order to survive. It's just the ebb

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 1>and flow of nature and of humanity. And this is

0:42:57.719 --> 0:43:01.600
<v Speaker 1>why so many scientists most no doable. Stephen Hawkings argue

0:43:01.640 --> 0:43:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that the long term survival of human life depends on

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:08.360
<v Speaker 1>our ability to expand beyond our planet, to expand beyond

0:43:08.400 --> 0:43:11.319
<v Speaker 1>our solar system. I mean, even if you're talking about

0:43:11.320 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>the just ultimate long gain, uh, expanding beyond the universe itself. Uh.

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So in that sense, the answer is, hey, if you

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 1>really want to survive humans, you have to transcend humanity

0:43:24.080 --> 0:43:27.680
<v Speaker 1>and become some sort of uh, you know, multiverse walking

0:43:27.760 --> 0:43:30.560
<v Speaker 1>god species. And this gets into the you know, her

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>second argument essentially, which is the adaptation one. Right, we

0:43:33.520 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 1>need to adapt, We have to change. We have to

0:43:36.200 --> 0:43:39.799
<v Speaker 1>first of all, like uh, come to grips with that

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.399
<v Speaker 1>idea in itself that we have to change in order

0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to survive. Um. And and this isn't just you know,

0:43:46.080 --> 0:43:48.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not just talking about like becoming gods here. We're

0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>talking about like, uh, making just small changes in are

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:55.720
<v Speaker 1>realizing what's not working. UM. Daniel Quinn in his book Ishmael,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:58.439
<v Speaker 1>which is often you know, the book about the talking

0:43:58.480 --> 0:44:02.799
<v Speaker 1>gorilla that tells us what's wrong with human culture and

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:04.640
<v Speaker 1>uh and how bad agriculture is. But it makes a

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>lot of strong compelling arguments. And one of the um

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.480
<v Speaker 1>examples that's thrown out is that the human civilization as

0:44:10.520 --> 0:44:13.080
<v Speaker 1>we know it is like a guy in an old

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>timey uh airplane, you know, the kind of a push

0:44:16.239 --> 0:44:18.359
<v Speaker 1>off the side of a hill and the guys in there,

0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and he's peddling as hard as he can, and he's

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like pulling levers to flap the wings and it's not flying.

0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:28.040
<v Speaker 1>It's plummeting, but he feels like it's flying. But but

0:44:28.120 --> 0:44:30.719
<v Speaker 1>but part of our responsibility is to realize, Hey, the

0:44:31.080 --> 0:44:33.760
<v Speaker 1>plane that we think is soaring and flying and ascending,

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>it's actually descending. And then realizing and then making the

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:41.400
<v Speaker 1>realization we can we can do things to change this airplane.

0:44:41.440 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>We can make it a little less of a loadstone.

0:44:43.920 --> 0:44:45.680
<v Speaker 1>It may be a little more of a of an

0:44:45.680 --> 0:44:50.040
<v Speaker 1>actual vehicle. And you know, touching on this is of course,

0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll get this is touching back into the

0:44:53.120 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 1>preachy sort of global warming aspect of this conversation, which

0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.279
<v Speaker 1>is that, you know, we really have to come to

0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>terms with the fact that human beings are causing climate change,

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that's the first thing. And how we're going to reduce

0:45:07.320 --> 0:45:10.600
<v Speaker 1>that basically, right, reduced greenhouse emissions. They have to be

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:16.239
<v Speaker 1>reduced by fifty by twenty fifty, that's theoretically within our lifetimes,

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:20.920
<v Speaker 1>has to happen for us to stave off that that

0:45:20.920 --> 0:45:24.799
<v Speaker 1>that one degree shift in temperature change that we're talking

0:45:24.840 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 1>about earlier. Um, and there's easy ways to do this.

0:45:28.200 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna spend you know, the rest of our

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:34.799
<v Speaker 1>time here rattling it all off, but you know, look

0:45:34.840 --> 0:45:37.080
<v Speaker 1>it up online. Combine trips in your car, you know,

0:45:37.080 --> 0:45:40.440
<v Speaker 1>car pooling, buy more efficient cars, adjust your thermostat in

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the winter, bike to work, or cycle. All of these things, CANNA,

0:45:43.680 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, essentially help with reducing greenhouse emissions. Uh. Basically

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 1>just just look at this one example here, So if

0:45:52.719 --> 0:45:56.040
<v Speaker 1>every American replaced one incandescent bulb with one of those

0:45:56.160 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>energy saving ones, the reduction in greenhouse gas emissions would

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:03.879
<v Speaker 1>be the equivalent of taking eight hundred thousand cars off

0:46:03.880 --> 0:46:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the road. So that's you know a small thing. We

0:46:06.560 --> 0:46:09.680
<v Speaker 1>we talked about this love crafty and sense of insignificance,

0:46:09.680 --> 0:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>but that's a relatively small thing that everybody can do

0:46:12.160 --> 0:46:17.520
<v Speaker 1>that's gonna you know, slightly stave off the coming apocalypse.

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 1>That's not going through life with a gas mask or

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>some sort of a weird alien tentacle creature or like

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.880
<v Speaker 1>attached your spinal column or anything. That's that's very doable. Yeah,

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:29.200
<v Speaker 1>and you know, new Its touches on this in her

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:32.040
<v Speaker 1>book as well by talking about these, she went and

0:46:32.320 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 1>talked to a lot of really interesting, kind of future

0:46:34.440 --> 0:46:38.440
<v Speaker 1>oriented scientists at universities around the country. One in particular

0:46:38.880 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>was looking at how we could use photosynthesis as like

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 1>a method that we could replicate within our solar cells,

0:46:46.520 --> 0:46:52.080
<v Speaker 1>essentially by building artificial photosynthesis. Uh. It's called biomamesis, and

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:55.200
<v Speaker 1>the practice is basically you're imitating biological life forms to

0:46:55.280 --> 0:47:00.279
<v Speaker 1>make artificial systems as efficient you know, biomamic right. Yeah,

0:47:00.360 --> 0:47:02.359
<v Speaker 1>So there's this idea that you know, if we can

0:47:02.400 --> 0:47:05.400
<v Speaker 1>switch over to some kind of uh energy system that

0:47:05.520 --> 0:47:10.240
<v Speaker 1>utilizes photosynthesis instead of you know, carbon emitting fuels such uh,

0:47:10.280 --> 0:47:12.200
<v Speaker 1>that that you know, would be in much better shape.

0:47:12.400 --> 0:47:15.279
<v Speaker 1>And they she even looked into the um. There's this

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 1>algae called ciano bacteria I believe, uh, And there's this

0:47:20.640 --> 0:47:23.239
<v Speaker 1>scientist I believe it's at the University of Washington that's

0:47:23.280 --> 0:47:26.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at mutated versions of this that release hydrogen instead

0:47:26.800 --> 0:47:29.439
<v Speaker 1>of oxygen, you know, like like like normal plant life does.

0:47:29.840 --> 0:47:32.760
<v Speaker 1>And it would allow for this clean fuel production because

0:47:32.760 --> 0:47:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you would have hydrogen being released, you'd be utilizing the

0:47:36.080 --> 0:47:38.799
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen for your energy, and the only byproduct that would

0:47:38.800 --> 0:47:41.839
<v Speaker 1>be releasing is water essentially. You know, so we're talking

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 1>about biofuels essentially here. Okay, so we touched upon this earlier,

0:47:46.680 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>that memory is really important to our survival, right, the

0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.879
<v Speaker 1>idea that yes, we can scatter as a species, whether

0:47:52.920 --> 0:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>it's across the world or it's across the planets of

0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the universe, but there needs to be some kind of

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 1>built in memory system for the human species to learn

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:05.560
<v Speaker 1>from its previous mistakes, learn from history essentially, right, Yeah, yeah,

0:48:05.560 --> 0:48:07.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's I can see it's sort of being

0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.000
<v Speaker 1>a two sided thing. Like one is just the pure

0:48:09.080 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>vanity of saying, hey, this is like we have a continued,

0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:15.719
<v Speaker 1>continued line here um, and we have the memories of

0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>what came before. But then on the other hand, science

0:48:18.640 --> 0:48:21.840
<v Speaker 1>itself is about knowing, you know, what has come before,

0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.759
<v Speaker 1>having this accumulated knowledge and knowing what works and doesn't work,

0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:28.160
<v Speaker 1>and for humanity to survive. I mean, it's worth the

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>point now where science is essentially humanity, if not something greater. Yeah,

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean this begs the question why do we want

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:40.719
<v Speaker 1>to survive? Right? Like, why what is our urge to

0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.480
<v Speaker 1>make it through this sixth mass extinction? Why do we

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 1>need to do that? I would argue that you know,

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>so that our people endure for the long term, and

0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that you know, the legacy of our species is carried on.

0:48:54.680 --> 0:48:57.920
<v Speaker 1>All these memories are brought throughout time. This understanding of

0:48:57.960 --> 0:49:02.879
<v Speaker 1>the world, this understanding of ourselves, it's not lost. Yeah,

0:49:02.960 --> 0:49:05.319
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it comes down to two things.

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:07.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, on one hand, you have, like the basic

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:09.840
<v Speaker 1>genetic mission in any organism is to pass its seed

0:49:09.880 --> 0:49:13.040
<v Speaker 1>on and see the continuing the continuation of that particular

0:49:13.080 --> 0:49:16.480
<v Speaker 1>genetic line, and so far so that becomes extrapolated in

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.600
<v Speaker 1>this quest for the survival of the human race. But

0:49:19.680 --> 0:49:23.120
<v Speaker 1>then also it ties into the problem of immortality that

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:26.799
<v Speaker 1>that on you not a very basic level. A lot

0:49:26.840 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 1>of what goes on in our culture is about us

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:32.080
<v Speaker 1>struggling with the reality that we are, each individual. Each

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 1>person listening to this today, he's going to die, right, Absolutely.

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.919
<v Speaker 1>The idea that we as individuals are going to die

0:49:39.200 --> 0:49:41.719
<v Speaker 1>is horrible to think of. The idea that we as

0:49:41.719 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 1>a species are all going to die is practically unthinkable. Yeah,

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>or is it? I don't know. I guess the thing is,

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:51.520
<v Speaker 1>it's like, you can come to terms with your your

0:49:51.560 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>own personal mortality, but it it can make a bit

0:49:54.440 --> 0:49:59.480
<v Speaker 1>more sense if there is a larger cultural, even species

0:49:59.520 --> 0:50:03.239
<v Speaker 1>wide in mortality, because maybe, just maybe your memory could

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.040
<v Speaker 1>survive in there. Maybe you'd be one of the few

0:50:05.200 --> 0:50:08.480
<v Speaker 1>lucky individuals like, uh, you know, you'll be You'll be

0:50:08.520 --> 0:50:11.799
<v Speaker 1>an Aristotle, You'll be uh, you'll be a confused to see,

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:15.759
<v Speaker 1>you'll be somebody whose name actually resonates to a meaning,

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:20.919
<v Speaker 1>meaningful degree throughout the long term. Yeah, you'll have a legacy. Yeah.

0:50:20.960 --> 0:50:23.120
<v Speaker 1>And so like, let's let's pull back from this for

0:50:23.160 --> 0:50:25.960
<v Speaker 1>a second and just look at like a I say small,

0:50:26.000 --> 0:50:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say a smaller example, but it's actually for

0:50:27.960 --> 0:50:31.520
<v Speaker 1>a much bigger animal than us. Okay, so whales, take

0:50:31.560 --> 0:50:35.360
<v Speaker 1>whales for example. Memory is important to all animals survival,

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and whales are a perfect example of this, right they

0:50:37.800 --> 0:50:43.879
<v Speaker 1>teach one another the maps for their migration patterns throughout generations.

0:50:44.239 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 1>This is just a simple example of why memory is important.

0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.120
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have to do necessarily with the vanity of

0:50:49.160 --> 0:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>wanting to have a legacy right and be remembered forever.

0:50:52.200 --> 0:50:54.919
<v Speaker 1>Although I can certainly relate to that. I'm sure most

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:57.200
<v Speaker 1>human beings have a certain amount of ego inside of

0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>them that resonates with that, right, but uh, more importantly,

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>just this idea that like, this is the route to survival,

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 1>This is the way that we've done, This is the

0:51:06.680 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>way to go, and it will get you know, lead

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to the continuation of our family and of our species. Yeah,

0:51:14.160 --> 0:51:16.040
<v Speaker 1>this is the way you use your shovel head to

0:51:16.120 --> 0:51:20.879
<v Speaker 1>dig exactly right. You can't just expect them to know

0:51:20.960 --> 0:51:23.160
<v Speaker 1>how to shovel their way under the earth with their face.

0:51:23.880 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>So alright, So Nuance has got these two recommendations that

0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:29.880
<v Speaker 1>she really advocates for at the end of her book,

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:33.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think these these are kind of where she's

0:51:33.440 --> 0:51:37.400
<v Speaker 1>a saying something new, saying something that hasn't necessarily been

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>brought to the community before. The two things are this

0:51:40.440 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 1>that we as a species needs to invest more in

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>our cities. Uh and I'll explain more about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the first one, and the second is what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been hinting at all along, which is we need to

0:51:52.840 --> 0:51:57.760
<v Speaker 1>explore beyond this planet because no doubt about it, sometime,

0:51:57.840 --> 0:52:00.640
<v Speaker 1>whether it's in the next hundred years, are the next

0:52:00.680 --> 0:52:03.359
<v Speaker 1>fifteen million years, there's going to be an event that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to wipe out life on Earth. Uh. So the

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<v Speaker 1>city part this is a really interesting thing. So check.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a great statistic that she pulled out in

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<v Speaker 1>the past decade. Okay, so we're just talking about, like,

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:22.000
<v Speaker 1>from two thousand five to now, the number of people

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>on Earth that live in cities has surpassed those that

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<v Speaker 1>live outside of them. I didn't I didn't expect that

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<v Speaker 1>when I read that in her book. I thought I

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<v Speaker 1>would have thought that there were more people living in

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>rural communities, but I guess not. Uh, And it's it's

0:52:35.920 --> 0:52:40.400
<v Speaker 1>expected to rise. United States. Uh sorry, the United Nations

0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Population Division estimates that sixty seven percent of humanity is

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<v Speaker 1>going to live in urban areas by So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's why she's advocating, we really need to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>a way to make our cities sustainable, right, So that

0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:59.240
<v Speaker 1>means the cities need to be able to sustain damage

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:01.600
<v Speaker 1>such as from Earth quick. They need to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to feed everyone in that that city. You need the

0:53:04.239 --> 0:53:10.040
<v Speaker 1>city to actually uh be less susceptible to the ravages

0:53:10.040 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>of disease, which, of course cities have you know, since

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<v Speaker 1>really the emergence of major metropolitan areas have served as

0:53:16.800 --> 0:53:21.120
<v Speaker 1>as of incubators, incubators for diseases such as as syphilis.

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 1>And then there's what we were talking about earlier, which

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:27.359
<v Speaker 1>is that they have to offer sustainable energy to their citizens. Right.

0:53:27.400 --> 0:53:29.959
<v Speaker 1>So this idea that we were talking about earlier about

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:34.480
<v Speaker 1>biofuels and you know, utilizing photosynthesis, whatever it is, whatever

0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 1>method that we end up using for for clean energy

0:53:38.480 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>that's sustainable and that we can keep using it for

0:53:41.160 --> 0:53:43.640
<v Speaker 1>a long period of time. Cities have to figure out

0:53:43.640 --> 0:53:46.439
<v Speaker 1>a way to make that happen. Right, Um, they can't

0:53:46.480 --> 0:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>exist without agriculture. Uh, and they're also you know, so

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:56.919
<v Speaker 1>we can't just you know, abandoned rural areas. We need

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.120
<v Speaker 1>them as well. So yeah, we need the food that

0:53:59.200 --> 0:54:01.279
<v Speaker 1>comes from them, you feed the city. So there needs

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:04.319
<v Speaker 1>to be you know, cooperation between these communities. And then

0:54:04.600 --> 0:54:06.720
<v Speaker 1>this is an interesting aspect that I hadn't thought about,

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.200
<v Speaker 1>but she points out that cities in and of themselves

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:14.520
<v Speaker 1>are monuments, their constructs of human memory. So, you know,

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 1>our cities, depending on who's in power at the time

0:54:17.160 --> 0:54:21.640
<v Speaker 1>that they're built, whether it's you know, the churches or

0:54:22.000 --> 0:54:27.360
<v Speaker 1>nationalistic organizations or or corporations. You see in the architecture

0:54:27.400 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 1>throughout a city. What was the dominant force at the

0:54:30.360 --> 0:54:33.360
<v Speaker 1>time that it was built right, whether it's extravagant churches

0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 1>or the beautiful large buildings that are built to sustain

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.200
<v Speaker 1>the government, or the skyscrapers that we work in here

0:54:41.200 --> 0:54:45.360
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta, you know, working for big companies. You know it.

0:54:45.680 --> 0:54:47.480
<v Speaker 1>You know when you look at the vanity that goes

0:54:47.520 --> 0:54:50.719
<v Speaker 1>into a city, when you look at the disease incubation,

0:54:50.760 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>when you look at the the energy drain and and

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the amount of energy it takes to feed individuals in it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it really makes it seem like the city,

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<v Speaker 1>the modern city is kind of a tumor of human culture,

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:06.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it's the the human culture as tumor um. It

0:55:06.640 --> 0:55:09.480
<v Speaker 1>brings to mind. I believe it was in Grant Morrison's

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<v Speaker 1>The Invisibles, where there's at one point one of the

0:55:12.200 --> 0:55:14.960
<v Speaker 1>characters has a vision of planets. They are just nothing

0:55:15.000 --> 0:55:18.520
<v Speaker 1>but like empty cities. Yeah, like where the the idea

0:55:18.600 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>of city has just completely ravaged an ecosystem. Yeah, that's

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>a classic Morrison thing that he revisits over and over again,

0:55:24.600 --> 0:55:29.440
<v Speaker 1>the the the idea of humans as disease as cancer

0:55:29.520 --> 0:55:33.680
<v Speaker 1>and then subsequently using that as a way to some

0:55:33.680 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>somehow survive. Right, So like harnessing that somehow. Um. I

0:55:37.120 --> 0:55:38.839
<v Speaker 1>think he had this story once. I don't. I don't

0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>know if it was ever published, but where there was

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<v Speaker 1>a person who had had a tumor, I believe it

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:48.959
<v Speaker 1>was in their lung and they had learned they turned

0:55:48.960 --> 0:55:51.960
<v Speaker 1>it into a familiar, like a magical familiar, and so

0:55:52.000 --> 0:55:54.880
<v Speaker 1>the their their tumor was was helping them instead of

0:55:54.920 --> 0:55:59.120
<v Speaker 1>hurting them. It's interesting metaphorical ideas, but that's essentially that

0:55:59.320 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, you get getting back to the reality of

0:56:02.040 --> 0:56:04.120
<v Speaker 1>notes as premise here, Like that's the argument, how do

0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.919
<v Speaker 1>you keep this this idea of city and this idea

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>of human civilization entirely? How does it become less of

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:16.640
<v Speaker 1>a disease and more of a sustainable like hybrid existence exactly? Yeah,

0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And then you know the last one is essentially you know,

0:56:19.760 --> 0:56:21.799
<v Speaker 1>what we've been talking about all along here is that

0:56:21.880 --> 0:56:25.959
<v Speaker 1>we need a long term plan to get off planet Earth.

0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.719
<v Speaker 1>That's it, plain and simple. We've got to build, we've

0:56:28.719 --> 0:56:32.160
<v Speaker 1>got to explore. We should probably be investing more in

0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:37.000
<v Speaker 1>uh simply just observing space around us, even if it's

0:56:37.040 --> 0:56:40.000
<v Speaker 1>not uh, you know, in terms of figuring out a

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.799
<v Speaker 1>way to propel ourselves outside this galaxy or not like

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:45.600
<v Speaker 1>you were saying earlier, you know, just in terms of

0:56:45.640 --> 0:56:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the asteroid impact thing. We need to be on top

0:56:48.640 --> 0:56:52.279
<v Speaker 1>of our game. Yeah, especially as we increasingly play this

0:56:52.440 --> 0:56:54.880
<v Speaker 1>long game of survival. I mean just in terms of

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:58.280
<v Speaker 1>the odds because we've been around such a short time

0:56:58.880 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>and we've seen the five I have extinction events that

0:57:01.400 --> 0:57:04.280
<v Speaker 1>have preceded us. So in order to keep those odds

0:57:04.280 --> 0:57:06.960
<v Speaker 1>going to remain in the sort of you know, cosmic

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Vegas game of survival, we've got to we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>to learn to bend the rules to our favor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so, I mean I don't have a whole lot

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<v Speaker 1>more to add to that other than that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if you want to know more about

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<v Speaker 1>both her recommendations for making cities better and for coming

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<v Speaker 1>up with long term solutions for space travel, I would

0:57:27.240 --> 0:57:31.600
<v Speaker 1>highly recommend reading her book. Again, it's a scatter adapt

0:57:31.720 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 1>and remember how humans will Survive a mass extinction, And

0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that's by Anneleine new It's you can order it on Amazon,

0:57:37.880 --> 0:57:40.880
<v Speaker 1>probably buy it in your local bookstore. I've been reading

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 1>it off of my kindle. Cool. All right, Well, there

0:57:44.560 --> 0:57:47.520
<v Speaker 1>you have it, um A quicker run through the five

0:57:47.520 --> 0:57:50.960
<v Speaker 1>extinction events that came before and uh, you know, preview

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<v Speaker 1>of the ongoing extinction event and possible events to come

0:57:54.400 --> 0:57:57.200
<v Speaker 1>and how we can survive it. Uh. In the meantime,

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