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Speaker 1: the Giants Podcast. We're back with our final Giants Huttle

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Speaker 1: podcast before the NFL Draft, And I phoned a friend

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Speaker 1: these Paul Schwartz in the New York Post. He joins us,

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Speaker 1: But this morning and yesterday I was going through my

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Speaker 1: So I figured I'm gonna have Paul helped me answer

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Speaker 1: wish I wish I could do that. When my my

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Speaker 1: we're presented by Investors Bank. Let's go Dan's questions. They

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Speaker 1: favorite podcast questions. So, guys, this is gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna relax to her. Paul and I are ready

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Speaker 1: to do this draft thing. So we're just gonna kind

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Speaker 1: So A J and South Carolina Paul, If the Giants

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Speaker 1: I mean and unless they know something that no one

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Speaker 1: else does. Um, you know, Carlos Basham, no, Jason what's things?

425
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Speaker 1: Oh wait, I mean the guy had no sacks last year, right,

426
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Speaker 1: I mean you can't. You can't take him at eleven. So, um,

427
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,199
Speaker 1: all intriguing prospects, all those guys in round two you

428
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Speaker 1: want to go for it, go for it, not round one.

429
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Speaker 1: It's just you can't, you know. I I wrote a

430
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Speaker 1: series in the New York Post, a four part series.

431
00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,879
Speaker 1: A case can be made, right, you can make a

432
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Speaker 1: case for And I had one day just offensive line,

433
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 1: one day just edge rushers, one day just cornerbacks, one

434
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 1: day just receivers. I feel I could sit here and

435
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Speaker 1: pound the table for any of those four position groups

436
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Speaker 1: that you have to take an eleven um less of

437
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Speaker 1: a pound for cornerback, but you can pound the table. Okay.

438
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Speaker 1: And just because I'm pounding the table for an edge

439
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: rusher doesn't mean there's one there. I can't manufacture one.

440
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Speaker 1: There's not one of eleven who I can say, if

441
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Speaker 1: he's there, take him. So you can't do it, You

442
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Speaker 1: just can't. You have to marry it, right. This is

443
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Speaker 1: not a marriage, This is a This is a shotgun

444
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Speaker 1: wedding basically. So let's let's go to Norman, Florida. He asked,

445
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Speaker 1: can you see the Giants taking an edge or outside

446
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Speaker 1: linebacker with their first two picks and have them start

447
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Speaker 1: over Carter or Ziminez. We already talked about round one.

448
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Speaker 1: Pall round two. On the other hand, that might be

449
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Speaker 1: a sweet spot depending on how they viewed some of

450
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Speaker 1: these guys. Well, the thing I like is when when

451
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you hear this to John is when you

452
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Speaker 1: know I I do um web chats and I write

453
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Speaker 1: and I do you know the mail bags and you

454
00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 1: know when I when I tweet stuff, and people always say, yeah,

455
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 1: but he's not gonna be there. Yeah, he's not gonna

456
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Speaker 1: be there. And it's like, I can guarantee you this.

457
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Speaker 1: At eleven, there's only ten players who won't be there, okay,

458
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Speaker 1: And at forty two, the Paul Schwartz New York Post

459
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Speaker 1: guarantee is there's only forty one players who won't be

460
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Speaker 1: there if they stayed forty two, so not fifty five players.

461
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Speaker 1: So what they always said, well, he won't be there.

462
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Speaker 1: Somebody has to be there. And by the way, last year,

463
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Speaker 1: if I would have told Giant fans a couple of

464
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Speaker 1: days before the Jazz Avian McKinney would have been there

465
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Speaker 1: in the second round, they would have said the same

466
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Speaker 1: exact thing, which is why David Gentleman said he was

467
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Speaker 1: trading that pick right, he was gonna trade down, and

468
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Speaker 1: he said, I'm not trading. If Zavian McKinney's there, we

469
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Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be there. He was there, traders off,

470
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Speaker 1: we take the pick. So um, yes, and this look. Now,

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Speaker 1: now tell me who they took in the first round.

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Speaker 1: You know, I don't think if they've taken Michael Parsons

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Speaker 1: in the first round, I don't think they're taking the

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Speaker 1: edge rusher in the second round, right, Or if they

475
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Speaker 1: took uh J. C. Horne in the first round, I

476
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Speaker 1: don't think they're taking edge rusher in the second round,

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Speaker 1: even though the cornerback is not the edge I think

478
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Speaker 1: I think that too A good question. Let me follow

479
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Speaker 1: up then, if they do go defense in the first round,

480
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Speaker 1: what do you think their second round targot would be?

481
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Speaker 1: Think they go a line You think they go wide receiver?

482
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Speaker 1: Stop there, stop there. I think I think you get

483
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Speaker 1: the best value there. You know, here, here's what I

484
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Speaker 1: think I think if they go defense in the first round. Um,

485
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Speaker 1: in the second round, it's not hard. You look at

486
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Speaker 1: the value board. Okay, who's our top right receiver ranked

487
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Speaker 1: receiver left at forty two? Who's our top ranked offensive lineman?

488
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Speaker 1: Are they really close? If they're really close, take whatever

489
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Speaker 1: you like better. If now the offensive lineman we have

490
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Speaker 1: ranked thirty eight and the receiver is ranked forty three,

491
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Speaker 1: take the offensive lineman, you know, take the person you

492
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Speaker 1: can make the biggest impact. Those are two positions of need.

493
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Speaker 1: As you said, you might be able to get a

494
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Speaker 1: good receiver in the third round or fourth, you know,

495
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean now, as I talked to someone

496
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Speaker 1: just the other day, scout, and I said, you know,

497
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Speaker 1: you can get a really good one in the second

498
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Speaker 1: round two and the guys and the guy said, yeah,

499
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Speaker 1: you can, but they're not they're not Waddle, No, absolutely,

500
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Speaker 1: So you know, so I can make the argument, Paul,

501
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Speaker 1: there's a smaller drop in the offensive line quality from

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Speaker 1: one to two than the wide receiver quality from one

503
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Speaker 1: to two. You can make that argument, you can, And

504
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. The Giants may say, well, no, respectively.

505
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 1: I think there are more receivers than their offensive linemen.

506
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Speaker 1: That's what their boards says. But there's no doubt at

507
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Speaker 1: forty two you can get a receiver who fans will

508
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Speaker 1: be excited about, who scouts will say, holy cow, this

509
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Speaker 1: we have a first let me ask you something. Do

510
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Speaker 1: you think it's possible or likely that at forty two,

511
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Speaker 1: they take a receiver that they have a first round

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Speaker 1: grade on. Absolutely close, right, because I think why I

513
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Speaker 1: think wide receivers get pushed down boards now, Paul, these

514
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Speaker 1: people like, oh, we'll just wait, there's so many of them. Yeah.

515
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: So so, um, it's like we said, it's not you know,

516
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Speaker 1: the problem is, it's not a problem. It's a fun.

517
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Speaker 1: Problem is that the first day is only the first day, right,

518
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 1: you know, so we say he's a Day one pick,

519
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: and then he's a Day two pick. You know, Day

520
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 1: two is is really the most fascinating day of the draft? Really?

521
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Is the second round? Third round? Um? If you ask

522
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Speaker 1: me what do the Giants have to get right, I

523
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Speaker 1: would say day two over Day one. Yeah, it's almost

524
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Speaker 1: hard to screw up day one if you're picking eleven.

525
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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I'm not going on with it

526
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Speaker 1: right now, because lord knows, we've seen it. But it's

527
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: a lot harder to screw up Day one. All right,

528
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Speaker 1: let's go to uh, Peter and California. For many years,

529
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Speaker 1: the Giants have made a practice the draft and the

530
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Speaker 1: best available player regardless of position in the first round,

531
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Speaker 1: then Phil needs later on. Um. This is resulted in

532
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: strengthening and strong areas more than uh, while still filling

533
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Speaker 1: needs later. What do are your experts? And that would

534
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Speaker 1: be you believe it will be the three best available

535
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Speaker 1: players still on the board when eleven comes up, and

536
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Speaker 1: your best guess you know what? I think this best

537
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 1: available player thing is a myth. I really you, because

538
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: it's best available player in a little window, you know

539
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: what I mean? You know, put it this way at eleven,

540
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Speaker 1: Right here, at eleven, if name me the quarterback? Um? Uh?

541
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Speaker 1: Who who? Who might not? Let's say this, who who's

542
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna come out of the top four and drop to five?

543
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: Quarterback wise? Let's say Trey Lance is still sitting there

544
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Speaker 1: at eleven. Yeah, let's say which he could be? I

545
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: mean he is Trey Lance, right, He's not Trevor Lawrence.

546
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 1: So if Trevor, if Trey Lance is there at eleven

547
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Speaker 1: and the Giants have him as the top rated guy

548
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Speaker 1: on their board, they're not taking him. They're not going

549
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: best player available. They're not. Um, let me think of

550
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: another position. If a defensive tackle, which he won't be,

551
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 1: is at eleven, I don't think they're taking him. They

552
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 1: just gave Leonard Williams sixty three million dollars. So now

553
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 1: now if he's if he's Aaron Donald, they are so

554
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,879
Speaker 1: best player available is kind of like yes, but in

555
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: a small thing, you know, you know, you know, the

556
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: shades are very you know, the grades are very close.

557
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: With these things. You have two or three guys in

558
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: a cluster. You know, sa Kroon Barkley's grade was different,

559
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: but most that that's different. These guys are different. They're

560
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: in a cluster. So who I think I think one

561
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks will be there. Okay, let's say J. C. Horne. Okay,

562
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: let's chalk, sir Tan, you know, maybe Horn goes maybe

563
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,160
Speaker 1: to go but I would say, right now, my it's

564
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Speaker 1: just a guess. I would say Horn, I'm gonna go

565
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: Smith and not Waddle. I don't know why. I just think, wa,

566
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Speaker 1: So you have Horn, Davanta Smith, And how about Parsons

567
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Speaker 1: Parsons perfect. Let's say Slater gets taken. I agree, Paul,

568
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: I would have gaven you that would have given the

569
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: exact same three guys. Yeah, yeah, that that that's I think.

570
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: I think. You know, the concerns for Parsons knocked him

571
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: down a little bit. And let's let's not forget he

572
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: is an inside linebacker, you know what I mean, There

573
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Speaker 1: is a positional value to weigh there. Now, he's terrific,

574
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, I mean I was, I was banging the

575
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: drums for Devin White, you know what I mean. So

576
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: you know I'm not saying inside line but you know,

577
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: the Bucks just won a Super Bowl, were too terrific

578
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 1: inside linebackers. So and and by the way, the Giants

579
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: have Blake Martinez and a bunch of guys right now

580
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: and inside linebacker you know, trade you know, you know,

581
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: uh take Crowder and Reggie Ragland. You know they have

582
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 1: guys who were not Okay, Absolutely, he's a starter there.

583
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: So if they draft Michael Parsons, he's coming in and

584
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: starting from day one. And the Giants have pursued inside

585
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: linebackers in the draft before. They didn't land them, but

586
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: they have valued that position in years past to something

587
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: to keep in mind. I'm with you. I think that's

588
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 1: I think that's a real good combination of guys. And

589
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: I think that's not the easiest decision, but I think

590
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: it's interesting. All right, Alex in Connecticut, any chance we

591
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,119
Speaker 1: land Parsons? Oh way, and Wyatt Davis, we've talked Parsons already.

592
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: I think it is interesting, Paul, to see which one

593
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: of those edge guys could fall to the second round,

594
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: like you mentioned earlier, always a guy with no sacks

595
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: but a ton of production. And then we get to

596
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: the guard question. Right when do you pull the trigger

597
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: on the guard if you're concerned with getting a guard,

598
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: do you decide to pick the guy in the second round?

599
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: Do you think maybe you could play tackle too and

600
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: you get that multiposition flex whether it's at Cosmi and

601
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 1: Eikenberg one of those guys, or do you wait to

602
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: the third round then you can kind of get that

603
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: straight guard, whether it's Big Deonte Brown at Alabama, Tray

604
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: Smith Tennessee, whatever, that's interesting. When do you want to

605
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: try to hit that guard spot to make sure you

606
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: bring in some more competition for Fulton, for Harrison, for

607
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: those are the two vets, and then obviously Hernandez and

608
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: Lemieule Right, Um, well, I think it comes down to

609
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: again your value board. You know, you know, I don't

610
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: think they can say, okay, second round, we gotta take

611
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,440
Speaker 1: that guard tackle. I mean it's it's how did they

612
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 1: value the prospect? Just like we were talking about, you know,

613
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: you know, Rashaan Slater, you always pay players, not positions.

614
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. You have to pick the player. He said, well,

615
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: well this this guy is terrific. But yeah, I know,

616
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: but we have the receiver, or we have the the

617
00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: the cornerback rated way ahead of him. You gotta take

618
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: the better player. Now. Like I said, I'm not I'm

619
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 1: not playing at both sides with this best available player thing,

620
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 1: because it's position is important. Look, every guy they pick,

621
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: before they pick him, Joe Judge and his offensive and

622
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: defense coordinator are thinking, okay, we have him day one

623
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Speaker 1: depth chart, Where does he fit? Where are we putting him,

624
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: where we're lining up, what are we thinking about with him?

625
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: So it's not just like we we draft these guys

626
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: in a vacuum and then oh shoot, we put all

627
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: the now what do we do with them? You know,

628
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: they have specific plans for all these guys. So I

629
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Speaker 1: think you're right as far as receiver, offensive line, guard, tackle,

630
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: and edge rusher, those are the three sweet spots for

631
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Speaker 1: the Giants. And I don't and and as we said,

632
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't think edge rusher at eleven. Okay, So that's

633
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: the three spots I think you want to address. On

634
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: day one and two. And I don't care how you

635
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: do it, as long as at the end of day

636
00:29:55,800 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: two you have three players. It's a cohesive, smart approach.

637
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: And after the three plays, oh, I get it. I

638
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: see where he fits. I see where he fits. I

639
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 1: see where he fits, and I could see all three

640
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: of them making an impact in some way, shape or

641
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: form on day one. I don't care if it's the first, second,

642
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: or third round. It just has to be in the

643
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120
Speaker 1: mix there. Yeah, And to your point on best available

644
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 1: player pull at eleven, you're probably gonna have guys stacked

645
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: with very similar glide grades close to each other. Once

646
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: you get into like the forties and fifties, you might

647
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: have one outlier that is standing alone, right, And that's

648
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: the guy you can't pass on because you know fit

649
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 1: or need might influence grades that are You know that that,

650
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 1: but it's not going to influence grades that are separated.

651
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: And that's why that's why the third, the fourth, fifth,

652
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: sixth round, maybe fourth and fifth. More so, your team

653
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: picks a guy and you look up in your guide, right,

654
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: and you look up what you hear, and you say,

655
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: what the heck are they doing? That guy is supposed

656
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: to go in the sixth round. Why do we we

657
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: could have got him in the sixth round. Why are

658
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: we taking in the fourth because because you did you

659
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Now, if you do out all

660
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 1: the time, you're just reaching for guys. You know, you're

661
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: just playing fantasy football. But the Giants will take a

662
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: guy in the fourth round who some other team has

663
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: as a sixth round pick, and vice versa. That's just

664
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: the way it is. That's why what you have to

665
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 1: do is you have to trust that your team puts

666
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 1: together a really really good board and that team and

667
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: I'm not saying, look, you have to trust the Giants board.

668
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: You have to trust at his gospel. What you have

669
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 1: to do is say, does my team have a track

670
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: record of doing smart things in the draft and we

671
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: draft well, if you say by and large yes, then

672
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: you have to trust the board. If you have a

673
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: fan of a team and you said, you know what,

674
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: I can't stand the way we draft, and and the

675
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: facts kind of bear that out, then when they say

676
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: he was the best on our board, you can rightly say,

677
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: get a darned get a new board. Okay, your board stinks,

678
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: right and and yeah, you're absolutely right to your point,

679
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Albert Brier had in his Monday Morning quarterback on Monday,

680
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: I think that from my six in. This draft is

681
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: a mess, and it's much different from team to team,

682
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,239
Speaker 1: so much different grades. So you're gonna see guys kind

683
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: of all over the play. Probably they cut more left here.

684
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 1: Why did they draft him right? What did they drift him?

685
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: He should be in the third round. It's like, well, no,

686
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: they had him at the bottom of the first round.

687
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: Who was the I can't remember the guy's name. Who

688
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: was the safety from Texas Paul who ended up tearing

689
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: as achilles in training camp that the Giants draft in

690
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: the fifth round. I'm trying to remember the darn kid's name. Xus. Yeah,

691
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: he was a Texas safety and they popped as achilles

692
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: and training camp and not Phillips. It was something like that. Though,

693
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: I shoot, I could picture the guy's face. I just

694
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: can't pull his name. Um, it'll come to me. That

695
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 1: was one of the guys that, you know, why are

696
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 1: you picking this guy here? You got picked there. If

697
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: you finally let me know, I think it's killing me.

698
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I'm gonna be distracted. What was it about?

699
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: It was, gosh, there was like maybe something like that.

700
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: It's I know what you're saying. I think it was

701
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: before that. It wasn't that Burhey from San Diego. No,

702
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: it was it was not he. Not Bury had all

703
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: the concussions. The missile, not Burrhey. Yes, the missile. Yes, Okay,

704
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: I have to look this up now, because now is

705
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 1: bothering me. All right, let me see Giants drafts history

706
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: here I'm looking for. I know as soon as I

707
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: see it, I'm gonna say, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yes,

708
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: Mickel Thompson, thank you, Mickel Thompson him, Yes, he was

709
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Exactly use this scar. I'm like, wow,

710
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: mickem was one of those guys when they draft him

711
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: on draft night, I am not happy with the Giants

712
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: because he has a funky spelling of his first name.

713
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: And then and on deadline I have to look down

714
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: too many times, you know, after like the third round.

715
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: I want John Smith, Sam Jones, Bill Thompson. That's what

716
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: I want. I want straight names. I don't want the

717
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: names of guys that I can't spell. Okay, lord knows.

718
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,239
Speaker 1: In that second preseason game, we're just trying to all

719
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: get out of there as fast as we possibly can. Yeah, absolutely,

720
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,719
Speaker 1: I really got a couple more left here. Pull, We're

721
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: we're rolling through these pretty good here. Um, let's see,

722
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Oh this is a good one. Robert and South Carolina.

723
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: I think that this is from back in February. I

724
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: think the Giants would trade down if Slater or Pits

725
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: are not there to select. Well, Pitts is not gonna

726
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 1: be there. We'll see about Slater. This would help the

727
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: Giants get extra picks possible, like possibly second round pick.

728
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: Is this the year, Paul? Do they install the right

729
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: term on the NASCAR track because they've got a trade back?

730
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 1: What do you think? Um? First of all, why are

731
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: we so many questions from South Carolina? Is this some

732
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: kind of a Giant's hotbed that? Yeah, it's a really

733
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 1: good question. I that's three of them. I don't know.

734
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: I gotta tell the New York Post to start doing

735
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: a targeting, uh web traffic targeting in South Carolina. And

736
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: perhaps the biggest upset is that three of them from

737
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: South Carolina. Not one of them had a J C.

738
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 1: Horn question. Yeah, um is it? I mean, my my

739
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 1: betting self would say they don't trade back, but this

740
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: is the year to do it now? It's easy to

741
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: say trade back. You have to have someone to trade up,

742
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And who are you trading

743
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: up for eleven? Quarterback? I mean quarterback probably, you know,

744
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: maybe one of the top receivers or one of the

745
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: top offensive lineman. Maybe maybe Slater is there, and the

746
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Giants are willing to trade back, and you know, someone says,

747
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: we've gotta get Slater. Maybe if J. C. Horne is there,

748
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: and someone says, oh, are you taking more? No, uh,

749
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 1: we gotta go up and get Horn. We have him

750
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: as the fifth best player in his draft. Um, you know,

751
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: Dave Gettiman said, I'm I'm I'm content to only have

752
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: six picks. You know. It's and you know, really last

753
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 1: year they had what ten picks, So you know, they

754
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: have a lot of young, you know, bottom roster guys.

755
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like they need, oh geez, they

756
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: need another seven or eight or nine to kind of

757
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: fuel the bottom of the roster with the salary coup.

758
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: They don't have to. They have a lot of those guys.

759
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, the bottom round there, so there's

760
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: draft is gonna be a mess because it's a smaller

761
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: player pool and it's the small school guys that they

762
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: really have less information on through this whole process anyway. So, so,

763
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: and the Giants don't have a seventh round pick, so

764
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 1: that means they're they're undrafted. Free agency starts very early.

765
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: Um Um, I think there's a chance. I think they

766
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,359
Speaker 1: trade back only if they see an edge rusher. They

767
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: can get a few spots down, you know, they and

768
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: they get a trade back and get you know, Christian

769
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 1: Dy saw the play right tackle. I mean maybe right,

770
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,439
Speaker 1: you know, maybe if they look at him and say,

771
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: you know, he's terrific, but maybe not at eleven. We

772
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: can get him further down. Elijah Vera Tucker would be

773
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: in that neighborhood to right. And then and then you know,

774
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't think you're getting a second round pick out

775
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: of that. I think you're getting a third round pick

776
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 1: out of that from eleven to fifteen. I don't know

777
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: if you're getting it too, that would be there. I

778
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 1: don't think you are, no, um unless the team watch

779
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback and then you can kind of hold them

780
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: at um. So, but hey, get your third round pick

781
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: is terrific. You know it will be great. So how

782
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 1: far back would you be willing to go? Paul, Well,

783
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: see it depends on what. You can't go back too

784
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: far and which Well, how about twenty, that's where the

785
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: Bears are if they want their quarterback? Would you go to?

786
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: Uh twenty? You better give you better get get a

787
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: second round pick this year and a one next year

788
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: and a one next year, and then there's a chance.

789
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 1: Now you know, this front office is on the hot

790
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: seat here, and you know you don't want to start

791
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: getting first round draft picks for the next general manager either,

792
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you want to you

793
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: want to kind of you know, make hay while the sunshines.

794
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: UM twenty is twenty is like two tiers down from

795
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: the player that you're getting. So that that's UM at twenty,

796
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: I think then you're really going for an edge rusher,

797
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 1: because you said, you know what, there's four or five

798
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: of them, and and they're not all gonna be gone

799
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: by twenty, and we'll we'll find with them. That would

800
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a stretch for me. Here,

801
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: I got two more here. If Wattle and Slater are

802
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,240
Speaker 1: both available to pick, Paul, which one would you choose?

803
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: I would choose Waddle. I would not fight you if

804
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: you choose later. I mean, that's the short answer. You know,

805
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,320
Speaker 1: I would choose Waddle. I think he's I think Waddle

806
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: has the bigger upside to be great, Okay, to be great,

807
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: to be a difference maker. Um. Do I think Slater

808
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: can be a starting tackle or guard for ten years?

809
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: I do? But you know what I thought, Will Hernandez

810
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: was going to be a starting guard for a decade

811
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 1: for the Giants and not be Christnee, but be a

812
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: really good player. Okay, like a Richie Cybert, right, something

813
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: like that. Maybe even I think it's still better, right,

814
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: a little better. You know Richie. I love Richie, but

815
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: Richie was undrafted, you know. So, Um, a guy you

816
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler for ten years, okay, you know that, a

817
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 1: guy who maybe you'll make a Pro Bowl, maybe won't,

818
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: but you don't worry about him for ten years. That

819
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: has not happened. I'm not throwing him out the door,

820
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: but that has not happened. So um, you know, I

821
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 1: could be wronging or right on Slader. I just like well,

822
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: I think Waddles upside is tremendous. And and you know what, selfishly,

823
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: I love watching you know when when training camp starts

824
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: and I'm a I'm a writer and I'm sitting there watching.

825
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: I'd rather write about Waddle and the things he does

826
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 1: than write about, you know, a left guard, selfish, selfish man.

827
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: That was That was a jack in Florida, by the way,

828
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: And he asked about parent and Lemier already touched on

829
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 1: those guys earlier. All Right, here we go Christ and Pennsylvania.

830
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: Last question, Paul, who do you think we can steal

831
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: late in this upcoming draft? Personally, he likes Diami Diami

832
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: Brown excuse me from North Carolina actually like Dammy Brown too.

833
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: I think that forty two might be a little rich

834
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: for him, but I think he's a really good player.

835
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I think he's kind of similar Darius Slayton though in

836
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: terms of Billy will win deep. So, Paul, there's a

837
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: guy you like, second, third, fourth round, you know whoever

838
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 1: you want it to be. Give me a name. Day

839
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,439
Speaker 1: three guy. I have a Day three guy for you,

840
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: which I will pound the table for late. Okay, I

841
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: will pound the table for him. I want him. He

842
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: should be a giant. Anthony Schwartz, Okay, he is without

843
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: a doubt. You listen to me, You're getting this, John,

844
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,919
Speaker 1: Is this being taped right? Now, yes, I have it. Yes,

845
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: he is the best available Schwartz in this draft. Okay,

846
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, best player available, best possible Schwartz in this raft.

847
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: Now he can run like the wind, unlike most Schwartzes

848
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: and unlike all Schwartzes in my family. He ran a

849
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: four to five. Okay, So is the sixth round the

850
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: right spot to go for speed? Right? He's a speed guy.

851
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: He played at Auburn. What are you laughing? This is legitimate,

852
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: I know it is. That's just funny. I think he

853
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: picked the perfect guy. I love it. And and and

854
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: who's the head coach of the Giants? Did we forget?

855
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: Who's the head coach of the Giants? U? Joe Judge? Okay? Um,

856
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: you know I'm his favorite beat rider pull. Okay, maybe

857
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: that might be a stretch, but there are some people

858
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: think that Anthony Schwartz can be a hell of a gunner. Okay, right,

859
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: he's fast as hell. He he he doesn't catch everything

860
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: for him to him. But if you line him up

861
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: on the slot or outside and you have him run

862
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,280
Speaker 1: down the field, someone has to run with him, Okay.

863
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 1: And if they can't run with him, then maybe there's

864
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,439
Speaker 1: a fifty chance if you get on the ball, hook

865
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: catch it, Okay, So he it's a guy in the

866
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: sixth round you can take a chance on. He can

867
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: be a gunner. He can he has speed, all the

868
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: speed in the world, and he's a schwartz, so it's

869
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: he's got every component to be a giant. I love it. Um,

870
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give a guy that I've kind of fallen

871
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: in love with watching him and there no there is

872
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: And I tried to find a smell. There is not.

873
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: There's no Anthony Schmilk. Now there is, there's not what

874
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:26,400
Speaker 1: we call him Tony Schmilk, right, but um, this is

875
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: one of the Tino's guys too. I hate to steal him.

876
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: But watching it, Paul, I really like Tommy tremble Out

877
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: a Notre Dame. He would probably have to be around

878
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: three picks, so he's maybe he's not a sleeper, but

879
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 1: he just reminds me so much of Kyle used Chick,

880
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: and I think a guy that they can use as

881
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: a movable weapon as an h back, fullback and tight

882
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: end Ingram was on the last year of his deal.

883
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: Rudolph just has a two year deal. I feel like

884
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: that's someone that Judge would like to use in a

885
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: lot of different ways as a movable piece. And you

886
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 1: know these Notre Dame guys, they're very usually very good

887
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: for the culture. So that would be I got that.

888
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, does that player seriously, does that

889
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: player did? Did that have a piece in the Jason

890
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 1: Garrett offense? Um? He did not use a lot of

891
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: that in Dallas? Did he? You know? Um? You know,

892
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: so I know what you mean. You know the fullback

893
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: you know the past catching uh past protecting fullback move?

894
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,439
Speaker 1: Um is you know some teams use some some teams don't. Yeah,

895
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: we see judge, Judge did it. The New England did,

896
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: which is why I think it might be you know,

897
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: something he would like. But you're right, we did not

898
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 1: see Garrett do that much in Dallas. You're right about that.

899
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: You know, so we have to see you know, look,

900
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: we're just projecting here, we're just having fun. We know

901
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett could use Anthony Schwartz that we know. You

902
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: know that, we know, no question, all right, And now

903
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: my final question for you, Paul, I'm not gonna let

904
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: you get off the hook here. Give me a prediction.

905
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: Who to the giants. I'm not gonna make you pick

906
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: the second round because that's crazy. But who do you

907
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: think the Giants pick a number eleven? Well, uh, Jaitlyn

908
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: Waddle is who I'm gonna pick. Okay, I'll give you

909
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 1: a sleep to you that's who I'm gonna pay in

910
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: the New York Post. But there's always a butt, right.

911
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,399
Speaker 1: We can't just say I have a sneaking suspicion he's

912
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: not going to be there. I just think you know

913
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 1: we're not We're not brain surgeons here. So we're talking

914
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: about him as the next Tyreek Kill. Somebody out there

915
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 1: is gonna say, in the top ten, you know what,

916
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,720
Speaker 1: he could be our Tyree Kill. It's a copycat league.

917
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have it we wanted, and so I think

918
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: he's gonna go ahead of Davanta Smith. But I can't

919
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,280
Speaker 1: take everyone off the board. So I'm gonna say him.

920
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: I would love to see him with the Giants. He's

921
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 1: he's he's supposedly a great kid. Um. You know, hey,

922
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: we saw what he did in the championship game, right,

923
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: you know he had what one leg? Would you say?

924
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say he was Yeah? I said

925
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I made I think his knee was okay, maybe one

926
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 1: and a half one and a half legs. He went

927
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: out there and caught a slant over the middle and

928
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, wanted to be a part of it. Um.

929
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: You know, if I was his agent or his father,

930
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: I probably would have said, uh, don't do it. Suit up,

931
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: but don't do it. But he did it. Um, you know.

932
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: And I think that's gonna resonate with the Giants too.

933
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: You know, people opted out, not questioning anybody opting out,

934
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: but um, this guy opted in on a bad ankle.

935
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: So if he's there, I think he'd be a tremendous pick. Yeah.

936
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: I will give my disclaimer that this obviously has no

937
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: knowledge of what the Giants are actually going to do.

938
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: Just my opinion. Um, I'm gonna go the other way.

939
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Devonte Smith, it's the combination that the

940
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 1: guy I think is most likely to be there. It

941
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: fits a need, the connection to Joe Judge, Alabama production,

942
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. He checks every box except

943
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 1: for the fact that he's the hundred sixty six pounds.

944
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: And I think the way the NFL is now poll

945
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: it's not like when artist Gibbins was with like Houston

946
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: back in the day and people were like leveling that

947
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: poor man every time he caught the ball in the

948
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: middle of the field. That doesn't happen anymore. And you

949
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: watch the tape with Davonte Smith, you don't see it,

950
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: Like you don't see that weight. Only the only possible

951
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: knock you can have on him is his weight. That's

952
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: the only knock. Productivity, attitude, um, like I said, production,

953
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 1: uh nothing, skills are He is a better route runner

954
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: than than Jalen Waddle. He's a better I mean hands

955
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean I I would have to

956
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: ask the Alabama guy. You know, one's of a plus,

957
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: one's an a A minus plus, I don't know. But

958
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: he's a better route runner. He is a great route runner.

959
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 1: If you put him in the slot and you put

960
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:16,360
Speaker 1: your third cornerback on him, he will win eight percent

961
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: of the time. So you can play him outside. You

962
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 1: can run jet suites with him too. The only thing

963
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: is that us thinking a hundred sixty six pounds You

964
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: know what who said once that you know you can

965
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: have exceptions. You know, he is an exception, A hundred

966
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,399
Speaker 1: and sixty six pound guy who's gonna play ten great

967
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: years in the NFL. He's an outlier. Yeah, he's an outlier,

968
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 1: and that's fine. But you can't have a team of exceptions,

969
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: but you can have a few of them. He's an exception,

970
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: but he's also exceptional. So, like I said, we could

971
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: talk for two hours about I want while you want Smith. Fine. Fine,

972
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: it's like saying I want pizza and you want lasagna.

973
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll have I'll have both. I'll have either.

974
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter to me as long as you're paying.

975
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 1: And of course, and of course now he just jinks

976
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: the fact that all the offensive players are gonna be

977
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 1: wiped out when the Giants get to eleven, and I'll

978
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: have to pick a defensive guy, but they'll have to

979
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: take Anthony Schwartz if they want used guy in the

980
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: first round. Such as life when you're selecting eleven eleventh

981
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft, Paul, A lot of fun, my friends.

982
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Enjoy the next couple of days, and we'll talk to

983
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: you after the draft. All right, all right, we'll have

984
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,439
Speaker 1: all the answers. Oh yeah, all the time. That's poll

985
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: shworts of New York folks. You thank you for joining

986
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,799
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987
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,520
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00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,520
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