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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in. We are rolling reacting to the big night

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Speaker 2: in Milwaukee. I am Clay Travis. You are listening to

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We have got so

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Speaker 2: much to discuss with all of you. Reminder that my

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Speaker 2: buddy Buck Sexton, he's got a great picture up from

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Speaker 2: the Scottish Highlands. He is in Scotland with his lovely

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Speaker 2: wife Carrie this week. He will be back with me

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Speaker 2: on Monday. I am sure both rested, probably nicely air

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Speaker 2: rated thanks to wearing a kilt for a week, and

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Speaker 2: filled with an abundance of things that we will dive into.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we have got a loaded show

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Speaker 2: for you, reacting to last night's big event, the first

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Speaker 2: Republican primary debate in Milwaukee. We are going to be

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Speaker 2: joined just so you know, because there could be some

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Speaker 2: fireworks from both of these interviews. Vivek Ramaswami is going

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Speaker 2: to join us at one, and then at two, Chris

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Speaker 2: Christie is going to join us, both fresh off of

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Speaker 2: their debate appearances. We may have other candidates joining us

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Speaker 2: before the week is out. But both of those guys

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Speaker 2: going to come on and discuss everything that took place

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Speaker 2: on the stage last night. We'll open up the phone

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Speaker 2: lines eight hundred and two eight two two eight eight two.

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Speaker 2: But I've got a ton of reaction that i want

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Speaker 2: to share with you. I love watching debates. I sat

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Speaker 2: down in my hotel room in New York City. I

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Speaker 2: pulled out my yellow legal pad. It was just me,

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Speaker 2: a grilled cheese sandwich and two plus hours of the debate.

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Speaker 3: That was what I did last night.

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Speaker 2: That was my wild night, just off Times Square in

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Speaker 2: New York City, grilled cheese sandwich, a glass of water,

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Speaker 2: and a yellow legal pad and a debate over the

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Speaker 2: future of the country. And so my big picture takeaways

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Speaker 2: were these. I thought it was a really good night

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Speaker 2: for the Republican Party. There was virtually nothing that occurred

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Speaker 2: on the stage from Candidate one all the way to

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Speaker 2: candidate eight. And I will rank them and tell you

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Speaker 2: how I believed each of these candidates did. But if

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Speaker 2: you compare the last time we had a big debate,

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Speaker 2: which was the Democrat debates that Joe Biden ended up

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Speaker 2: triumphing in to be the nominee. The Democrats are crazy.

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Speaker 2: They came out. If you remember the twenty twenty debates,

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Speaker 2: they all agreed that transgender taxpayer funded abortions should be

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Speaker 2: the law of the land. And I remember when that

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Speaker 2: conversation happened. Everyone agreed with it. I remember even trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out what that meant. So I was trying

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Speaker 2: to do as like a math equation when you're not

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Speaker 2: really that familiar with geometry or algebra two and you're

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Speaker 2: trying to figure out, now, what does the exponent do?

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Speaker 3: Where?

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Speaker 2: How did the how the parentheticals work here? Transgender taxpayer

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Speaker 2: funded abortions. I was like, I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: that means. And I had to go back and reconsider.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, that is dudes, Oh sorry, chicks that

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Speaker 2: are pretending to be dudes that actually are chicks that

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Speaker 2: have babies, and we should be paying for it. And

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't, like, everybody agrees that this is

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Speaker 2: something that should be going on. We should be paying

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Speaker 2: for abortions for chicks pretending to be dudes who got

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Speaker 2: I don't understand it all right, So that in and

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Speaker 2: of itself was a mess, and I thought it all

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Speaker 2: was a mess. But I think a primary takeaway for

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Speaker 2: all of you to keep in mind is the single

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Speaker 2: most ridiculed candidate from the twenty twenty Democrat debates was

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden, and he ended up the nominee. So I

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Speaker 2: know some of you were active on social media Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

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Speaker 2: talk maybe wherever you may be. Take everything with a

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Speaker 2: grain of salt. I'm being honest with you here. I

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Speaker 2: have not read one word of debate coverage because I

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Speaker 2: love to watch the event myself. If you're watching on video,

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Speaker 2: these are my notes. This is my trustee yellow legal pad.

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Speaker 2: All I need is a pen and a legal pad,

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Speaker 2: and I'll make sense of the world for you.

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Speaker 3: This is it.

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Speaker 2: So I'm not being artificially conditioned in some way by

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Speaker 2: the postgame chatter. I didn't watch Fox News. I didn't

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Speaker 2: watch Sean. No offense to Sean Hannity. I'm sure he

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Speaker 2: did a fabulous job. I went and did. Some of

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Speaker 2: you may have watched it an immediate video recap, because

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be influenced by what people say

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Speaker 2: about the debate. I want to be able to react

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Speaker 2: exactly to what I saw, and we're going to allow

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Speaker 2: you exactly what I saw. So one really good night

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Speaker 2: for the Republican Party. I thought there was a lot

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Speaker 2: of very impressive performances, but I would break the candidates

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Speaker 2: down in three different tiers. To me, it is indisputably

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Speaker 2: true that the three best candidate performances last night in

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Speaker 2: no particular order, because I think you can agree or

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Speaker 3: But I think the top tier, the best.

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Speaker 2: Three gold, silver, bronze as it were for the debate,

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Speaker 2: or viveg Gramaswami, Ron DeSantis and Nicki Haley. I thought

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Speaker 2: those were, without doubt the three best performances on the stage.

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Speaker 2: I thought the next tier, and I'll break down each

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Speaker 2: of these contenders over this hour and explain what I

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Speaker 3: The next tier.

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Speaker 2: I thought Mike Pence, Chris Christy, and Tim Scott all

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Speaker 3: Where you said, hey, you know what.

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Speaker 2: That was a strong inter play in inert exchange for them. Pence, Christy, Scott,

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Speaker 2: mid tier ASA Hutchinson and Doug Bergham had no business

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Speaker 2: don't know what we gained by their inclusion at all.

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Speaker 2: Doug Burgham, I think is probably a good guy. We

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Speaker 2: should invite invite him on the show if we haven't

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Speaker 2: had him already. I certainly can see why I would

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Speaker 2: want to invest in North Dakota's governor. When it comes

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Speaker 2: to business. I think he's really really good at it

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Speaker 2: based on my understanding and reading of his past. That

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Speaker 2: North Dakota seemed to be very happy with what he's

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Speaker 2: done as a governor. Here's what doesn't work for me,

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Speaker 2: and I'm gonna work my way up from bottom to

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Speaker 2: top here. As we moved through the show, here's what

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Speaker 2: doesn't work for me. I don't care that you like

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Speaker 2: to ride horses. I don't care that you live in

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Speaker 2: a small town. I don't care that you believe that

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Speaker 2: farmers should help other farmers. That's not something that really

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Speaker 2: appeals to me. As Oh, that guy has to be president.

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Speaker 2: That's a compelling story that might work in North Dakota

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Speaker 3: And it's beautiful. I don't disagree.

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Speaker 2: I like really pretty vistas too, but it doesn't to

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Speaker 3: So I don't know why Doug Bergham was there.

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Speaker 2: He had the one moment where he pulled out the

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Speaker 2: Constitution Save some chicks for the rest of us. Doug,

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Speaker 2: you didn't even need the prop. You can argue for

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Speaker 2: pull out a prop. It felt desperate, felt desperate to

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Speaker 3: You remember when he was on CNN for the town hall.

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Speaker 3: That was genius. That was unexpected.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you have a copy of something that

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Speaker 2: has existed for hundreds of years and somehow like, here's

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Speaker 2: my Constitution copy, Well, we know what it says. Make

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Speaker 2: your argument. I thought it was a week Asa Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: I don't I don't know who the forty thousand people

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Speaker 2: maybe you're listening to me right now and you're one

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Speaker 2: of those forty thousand, I think you might as well

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Speaker 2: no idea what he actually stands for. I question whether

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Speaker 3: And if you did, I think.

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Speaker 2: You would have spent your money more more favorably, using

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Speaker 2: it to put over a skewer and roasting marshmallows to

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Speaker 3: I think you used your money poorly. Pence.

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Speaker 2: Here's my issue with Pence, and I just told Alli, hey,

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence is a man of principle. He reminds me

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Speaker 2: reminds me of a deacon at church. There is nothing

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Speaker 2: try to do for their church. However, most deacons I

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Speaker 2: when I look at Mike Pence, if you're going to

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Speaker 2: a principled man who did what was right on January sixth,

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Speaker 2: if that is your campaign, that is your chief argument.

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Speaker 2: And this is the issue that I had with Mike

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Speaker 2: Pence when he came on the show. Stick to your principles.

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Speaker 2: I think Mike Pence believes Donald Trump should be in jail.

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Speaker 2: I really do. If you believe that, just tell us.

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Speaker 2: I think Mike Pence is trying to claim that he's principled,

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Speaker 2: but he's not willing to stick to his principles all

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Speaker 2: fact that he won't commit to giving Donald Trump a

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Speaker 2: pardon one hundred percent disagree. You've heard me talk about

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Speaker 2: Pence on the show and argue about it. I believe

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Speaker 3: I thought he had good.

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Speaker 2: Moments, but I think ultimately, when he won't commit to

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Speaker 2: I think he falls apart Chris Christy. Look, I respect

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Speaker 2: that fact that Chris Christy is willing to go into

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Speaker 2: to I respect the principles he's arguing for. Here's the challenge.

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Speaker 2: He can't win and I think you saw that last night,

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Speaker 2: and so I'll ask Chris Christy this in the third hour.

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Speaker 2: If you can't win, And I think deep down he

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Speaker 2: knows that he's not going to be the Republican nominee.

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Speaker 3: Why are you in the race?

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Speaker 2: And if Trump's not going to be on the stage

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Speaker 2: and you're not going to go after Trump because Trump's

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Speaker 2: To me, Chris Christy's in a position where he should

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Speaker 3: And then Tim Scott.

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Speaker 2: Tim Scott to me was the most disappointing candidate on

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Speaker 2: and it felt like to me he set back and

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Speaker 1: Off, inspiring you to seek out the truth. The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in hour number two Clay Travis, buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Buck Sexton over in Scotland. He'll be back with me

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Speaker 2: Mike Pence seems to genuinely dislike you. Did you get

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Speaker 2: I think Nicki Haley disagrees with you, And certainly I

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Speaker 2: You and I were two of the first people I

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Speaker 3: You're one hundred percent right on.

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Speaker 2: That, and you have continued to argue it, and I

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Speaker 2: I think you're right on the principle that our country

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Speaker 4: Well, I do stand on principle, But the principal I

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Speaker 4: And so I think a lot of what's going on

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Speaker 4: from the deep state on the gun charges or whatever

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Speaker 4: else to create a deflection from the real thing. I

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Speaker 4: think we have to have, I think impeachment inquiry on

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Speaker 4: the real question of whether or not these bribes are

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Speaker 4: affecting our foreign policy right now in ways that put

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Speaker 4: the United States of America at risk when you have

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Speaker 4: a potential compromised president of the United States. But I

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Speaker 4: will never preordain a result and assume what the rule

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Speaker 4: of what the fact finding is going to say, I

446
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Speaker 4: will never be them. I believe in the rule of law,

447
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Speaker 4: and that's what we actually need to restore. But that

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Speaker 4: gives you a sense for how I think about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good answer, interesting answer of the veg Garamaswami.

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Speaker 2: And I think one reason people enjoyed your performance is

451
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Speaker 2: you say what you think, even if you don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: make people happy in the traditional Republican establishment. And that's

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Speaker 2: why your performance last night in many ways to me,

454
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Speaker 2: seemed similar to Trump in fifteen when he was beginning

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Speaker 2: his run.

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Speaker 3: So let me ask you this.

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Speaker 2: You said Trump is the best candidate, the best president

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Speaker 2: in the twenty first century. If you are running to

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Speaker 2: beat Trump, that means that you think you would be

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Speaker 2: a better president than Trump. What would you do better

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Speaker 2: than what Donald Trump has.

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Speaker 4: Done unite the country? I mean, I think that's what

463
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Speaker 4: it comes down to. And I think that allows us

464
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Speaker 4: to take our America First agenda even further than Donald

465
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Speaker 4: Trump did. And I stand by what I said last night.

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Speaker 4: We have Bush, Obama, Biden, and Trump. Who is the

467
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Speaker 4: best president of the twenty first center. It's not even close,

468
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Speaker 4: hands down if you're judge by the results of that.

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Speaker 4: And yet It made a lot of people uncomfortable, including

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Speaker 4: on stage. You could palpably feel it when I said that. So,

471
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump sets a high ball. But we in this country,

472
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Speaker 4: we don't just aspire to normally. We aspire to excellence.

473
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Speaker 4: That is who we are as Americans. And so it

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Speaker 4: is my job to build on the foundation that Trump

475
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Speaker 4: laid to take us even further, not just building the wall,

476
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Speaker 4: but using the military to seal the border, not just

477
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Speaker 4: putting Betsy Devas on top of the Department of Education

478
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Speaker 4: and say reform it, shut it down, not just talk

479
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Speaker 4: about the importance of fighting wokeness, but actually end affirmative action,

480
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Speaker 4: which was created by Lyndon Johnson via executive order. We

481
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Speaker 4: can end affirmative action in this country and in our

482
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Speaker 4: economy on any government contractor that's currently required to adopt

483
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Speaker 4: race based quotas. That starts from the government, and any

484
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Speaker 4: Republican president could have taken a pen and crossed it out.

485
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Speaker 4: I will. But why am I able to go further?

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Speaker 4: It's because I'm doing it grounded in first principles and

487
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Speaker 4: moral foundations. And we go further if we're grounded in

488
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Speaker 4: principle and so a few things that a share in

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Speaker 4: common with Trump as I'm an outsider. He and I

490
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Speaker 4: are the only candidates in this race who are not

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Speaker 4: entirely bought and paid for. In fact, I am putting

492
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Speaker 4: immense amounts of my own money into this campaign to

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Speaker 4: avoid having to be somebody else's circus, which is the

494
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Speaker 4: way our politics works today. And that's what I admired

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Speaker 4: about Donald Trump and continue to admire about him as

496
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Speaker 4: an outsider. But I think it takes an outsider who

497
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Speaker 4: also has an understanding of the constitution, a deep understanding

498
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Speaker 4: of the constitution, so you're not duped by the managerial

499
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Speaker 4: class and the advisors who tell Trump that, no, you

500
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Speaker 4: can't fire civil servants because of the Civil Service Protection rules.

501
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: Read the law that only applies to individual firings. It

502
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Speaker 4: does not apply to mass layoffs and math layoffs are

503
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Speaker 4: absolutely what I am bringing to the DC bureaucracy, a

504
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Speaker 4: seventy five percent headcount reduction in federal employees. And so

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Speaker 4: I don't believe in incremental reform. I think the moment

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Speaker 4: for that is passed.

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Speaker 2: Do you think, by the way revolution do you think

508
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Speaker 2: Trump was duped by a lot of his advisors when

509
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Speaker 2: he went into office?

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Speaker 4: How so well, I think that day effectively came from

511
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Speaker 4: the same rot that he was going into cure. And

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Speaker 4: I'll also be honest with you, I'm not saying that

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Speaker 4: I would have been any better in twenty fifteen, Okay,

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Speaker 4: But I believe in learning from the foundation laid by

515
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Speaker 4: your predecessors to build on that. And so what I

516
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Speaker 4: expect to happen is I will be the next president

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Speaker 4: of the United States. Donald Trump will be my most

518
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Speaker 4: valued advisors, something of a mentor actually, because I don't

519
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Speaker 4: want to relearn those same lessons. I want to build

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Speaker 4: on the foundation he laid. But it will take someone

521
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Speaker 4: of a different generation. I'm thirty eight. I can reach

522
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Speaker 4: young people we already are. I want to build a broad,

523
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Speaker 4: multi ethnic, working class moral majority like Reagan did in

524
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Speaker 4: the nineteen eighty landslide. I think we truly have an

525
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Speaker 4: opportunity to deliver that in twenty twenty four. People will

526
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Speaker 4: say Trump can't beat Biden. I disagree. I think that

527
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Speaker 4: on current numbers and on the current trajectory of how

528
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Speaker 4: Biden's doing, Trump probably could beat him in a narrow election.

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Speaker 4: But I'm the only person who can win in a landslide,

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Speaker 4: and we are skating on such thin ice as the

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Speaker 4: country right now, Clay that I don't think a fifty

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Speaker 4: point one election doesn't where MSNBC and CNN trod out

533
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Speaker 4: who the winner is the Monday after the election. No,

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Speaker 4: this has to be a landslide, more majority moral mandate,

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Speaker 4: and I think that will take Yes, someone as the

536
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Speaker 4: new outsider in the race, someone who comes from that

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Speaker 4: different generation, someone who is not a super pack puppet

538
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Speaker 4: but a patriot who speaks the truth, to be able

539
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Speaker 4: to take the America First agenda even further. And I

540
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Speaker 4: do think I'm the best positioned candidate to actually do it.

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Speaker 2: The last question for you, and that's really a strong answer,

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Speaker 2: Vivek Ramaswami. A lot of strong answers here. The night

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Speaker 2: after the debate, your critics, and many of them were

544
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Speaker 2: on the stage. I think are going to start to say,

545
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Speaker 2: if they haven't already, and you probably have heard the whispers,

546
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Speaker 2: Vivik's not actually trying to win. He is trying to

547
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Speaker 2: protect Trump and as a result, end up his VP.

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Speaker 2: I think we asked you about this last time, but

549
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Speaker 2: I do think allowing you to address it directly is important.

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Speaker 3: Are you trying to be Trump or are you trying

551
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Speaker 3: to be his VP?

552
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Speaker 4: I'm trying to lead this country to a national revival

553
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Speaker 4: by being the next president of the United States. And

554
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Speaker 4: I don't think that that involves Trump. That involves taking

555
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Speaker 4: the agenda and the movement that he began to the

556
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Speaker 4: next level further than he can right now. And I

557
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Speaker 4: can only do that as the next president. If this

558
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Speaker 4: is about me and my political career and getting close

559
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: to the seat of power, sure that would be your

560
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Speaker 4: number two position as vice president at the age of

561
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Speaker 4: thirty eight, Another nice little mark for my resume. That's

562
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Speaker 4: not what this is about. This is about our country,

563
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Speaker 4: and I don't think we have that much time. I

564
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: got a three and a half year old son. If

565
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Speaker 4: he's in high school before we fix this, we're done.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we have a country left. I do

567
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Speaker 4: not want to see us march to some national divorce,

568
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Speaker 4: and that is the direction we're heading in today. I

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Speaker 4: think it will take somebody who is grounded in principle,

570
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Speaker 4: who is able to bring especially that next generation who

571
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Speaker 4: has lost any semblance of national pride in this country,

572
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Speaker 4: sixty percent of them saying they would sooner give up

573
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Speaker 4: their right to vote than to give up their access

574
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Speaker 4: to TikTok who can best bring them along to revive

575
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Speaker 4: conviction in this nation we call home. And even between

576
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Speaker 4: Donald Trump and myself, when I think about who can

577
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Speaker 4: best do that from the White House next, I think

578
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Speaker 4: that is my job to get done. I think it

579
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Speaker 4: will be Donald Trump's job to not put himself through

580
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: the hell of that presidency. Again, to me, I don't

581
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Speaker 4: relish the idea of sitting in that White House either.

582
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Speaker 4: It is just a sense of duty that I'm the

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Speaker 4: best position to do it. I will rely on Trump

584
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Speaker 4: as my mentor and my advisor to do it. And

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Speaker 4: that is I think, how we each do our part

586
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Speaker 4: to lead a revival of our nation. Because America first

587
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Speaker 4: and Maga, it is bigger than Trump. It is bigger

588
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 4: than me. It is about the people of this country.

589
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: This movement is not about one man. It's not about

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Speaker 4: any of us. It is about this nation and that

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Speaker 4: is what we need to revive. And once we see

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Speaker 4: it that way, I think it will become clear. I

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Speaker 4: hope as I make my case that the voters will

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Speaker 4: put me in the office as their next president, and

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Speaker 4: when I leave office in January twenty thirty three, we

596
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Speaker 4: will look back and look at this moment we were

597
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Speaker 4: in skating on thin ice. We will laugh at it,

598
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Speaker 4: say we were going through our version of adolescence, and

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Speaker 4: maybe take the young guy to say this, maybe our

600
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Speaker 4: nation is really just a little young. Actually, maybe we're

601
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Speaker 4: all just going through our own version of adolescents, figuring

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Speaker 4: out who we're really going to be when we grow up.

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Speaker 4: And I do think it takes somebody who God willing

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Speaker 4: let me hope that my best days are ahead of me.

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Speaker 4: I don't take any day for granted, but I hope

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Speaker 4: and pray that my best days are ahead of me

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Speaker 4: in life at the age of thirty eight. Well, it

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Speaker 4: might just take someone who sees their own life that

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Speaker 4: way to see a nation in its own life that

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Speaker 4: way too. And I do believe that our nation's best

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Speaker 4: days can still be ahead of us. Maybe it has

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Speaker 4: to be a nation in decline, but that's not going

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Speaker 2: Hey, my wife's a better athlete than me too, so

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Speaker 2: country during summer. And we are joined now by one

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Speaker 2: of the men who was on the stage last night

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Speaker 2: for the Republican debate on Fox News. He is former

657
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Speaker 2: New Jersey Governor Chris Christi and Governor. I don't know

658
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Speaker 2: if you grew up like I did. Maybe you still

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Speaker 2: are a fan of WWE, but I felt like last

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Speaker 2: night you were playing the heel role, and I actually

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Speaker 2: thought you played it pretty well. Did you feel a

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Speaker 2: bit like, I don't know, Andre the Giant back in

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Speaker 2: the day walking in when he was about to take

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Speaker 2: on hault Cogan, Andre.

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Speaker 5: The Giant, or the Iron Chic or the executioner.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's a few of those. There's a few

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Speaker 6: of those possibilities. Say now, you know, look, I knew going.

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Speaker 5: In there last night, because this isn't my first rodeo

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Speaker 5: that if the issue of Donald Trump came up, you know,

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Speaker 5: because you've interviewed me a number of times before that

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Speaker 5: I'm going to say what I really believe and I'm

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Speaker 5: not going to worry about, you know, what some folks

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Speaker 5: in the in the audience may or may not do.

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Speaker 5: And so I felt fine walking in there last night.

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Speaker 5: I felt even better walking out.

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Speaker 3: So here's a question I want to I want to

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Speaker 3: start off something positive.

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Speaker 2: If you had to vote for someone on that stage

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Speaker 2: other than yourself, who have you been impressed by since

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Speaker 2: you started the campaign and said, Hey, this guy or

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Speaker 2: this gal they could be a good president.

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Speaker 3: I would be willing to vote for them.

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Speaker 2: We know you're not going to vote for Trump or

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Speaker 2: don't want to vote for Trump, but who has actually

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Speaker 2: impressed you?

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Speaker 3: So far during the campaign.

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Speaker 5: Well, I got to tell you part of it is

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Speaker 5: a bias because I know him so well. But I

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Speaker 5: really like Doug Burnham and I think Doug has been

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Speaker 5: a really successful governor in North Dakota. His wife Katherine

691
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Speaker 5: is a really solid, smart partner who's done a lot

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Speaker 5: of extraordinary work in the drug addiction area. And I

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Speaker 5: think they'd be a very good first couple.

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Speaker 6: And if I.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't vote for myself, I would love to vote for Doug.

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Speaker 5: I think he's a good man.

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Speaker 2: All right, So let's talk about the debate that happened

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Speaker 2: last night. You really went after Vivey Ramaswami. Obviously we

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Speaker 2: know you went after Trump, but let's start with the veke.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of him? What do you think

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Speaker 2: of his candidacy?

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Speaker 5: Well, look, I think when what offended me is ifitly

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Speaker 5: have a responding to a bake. You Now, when a

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Speaker 5: guy who's who's barely ever voted gets on the stage

705
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Speaker 5: and says everybody but me on this stage is bought

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Speaker 5: and paid for, I don't know how you take him seriously.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know you've got folks up.

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Speaker 5: There like Tim Scott and Nicky Haley, who have done

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Speaker 5: great things for the state of South Carolina and selflessly served.

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Speaker 5: And Nicky's husband is serving right now in the military

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Speaker 5: and on deployment. Mike Pence, you know, you can like

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Speaker 5: Mike Pence, not like Mike Pence, but the idea that

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Speaker 5: Mike Pence is bought and paid for is ridiculous. Asa

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Speaker 5: Hutchinson is bought and paid for, you know, Doug Bergham

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Speaker 5: bought and paid for.

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Speaker 6: You know, I just I found it offensive and I find.

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Speaker 5: It hard, and that's why I used the phrase I

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Speaker 5: did about chat GPT. He sounds like a guy who's

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Speaker 5: looked up and researched all the buzzwords that will light

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Speaker 5: somebody up, strings them all together, say something that says

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Speaker 5: them as fast as he can without any type of

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Speaker 5: you know, thought about what those policies would mean.

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Speaker 6: And so.

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Speaker 5: I can't take him all that seriously when the first

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Speaker 5: thing he does, when he comes up there, is accused

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Speaker 5: the other seven of us of being bought and paid for, when,

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Speaker 5: by the way, there's no evidence of that. And quite

728
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Speaker 5: to the contrary, he defends Donald Trump, who you know,

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Speaker 5: his family is on the grip so deep that you know, uh,

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Speaker 5: they're they're at least.

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Speaker 6: In the same league as Hunt Bikes. So that's the

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Speaker 6: guy he defends, and the seven of.

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Speaker 5: Us, you know, are are bought and paid for. So

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Speaker 5: that's my problem with to Clay the fact don't back

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Speaker 5: up what he's saying. And that goes with a lot

736
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Speaker 5: of the stuff that he said last night. And so

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Speaker 5: at one point I was tired of having his feet

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Speaker 5: on me and everybody else on the stage without getting

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Speaker 5: responded to. So you know you want to smack me

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Speaker 5: on from Jerseys, smack me. You're gonna get a smack

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Speaker 5: or two back.

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Speaker 2: I thought you did a good job, by the way,

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Speaker 2: responding on the UFO question and turning it into an

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Speaker 2: interesting answer about the importance of trust, loyalty, and decency

745
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Speaker 2: when it comes to leaders and people who are talking

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Speaker 2: to the people that they are attempting to lead. You

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Speaker 2: and look, part half of our audience is in favor

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump. The other half is rooting for somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you clearly are anti Trump. At what point

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Speaker 2: do you look around. There were eight people on the

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Speaker 2: stage last night. Trump is not one of them. Trump

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Speaker 2: has obviously opened up a substantial lead. At what point

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Speaker 2: do you look I'm sure you've read the Wall Street

754
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Speaker 2: Journal make this argument that their needs to be a

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Speaker 2: thinning of the herd, so to speak, in order for

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Speaker 2: Trump not to win. If your goal is Trump not

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Speaker 2: to be the nominee, at what point do you look

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Speaker 2: around and say the anti Trump faction has to coalesce?

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Speaker 3: Are we there? What's that time look like in your mind?

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Speaker 5: You know, my goal is to be elected president the

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Speaker 5: United States, not to see Donald Trump not elected president

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Speaker 5: the United States. So that's the first thing. Secondly, I

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Speaker 5: think there will be a natural coalecting of it. But

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Speaker 5: I think you know, the Wall Street Journal editorial page

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Speaker 5: trying to force that in August of twenty twenty three

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Speaker 5: has never been successful in any race they've tried to

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Speaker 5: do that in or other media.

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Speaker 6: Folks try to do that in and it's going to

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Speaker 6: take some time.

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Speaker 5: For people to get to know us and for it

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Speaker 5: to become obvious to us as to who they should

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Speaker 5: collect behind. But I will say this, you know, I've

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Speaker 5: been in the race for two and a half months.

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Speaker 6: I'm now at fourty teen percent in New Hampshire. I'm

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Speaker 6: ahead by five.

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Speaker 5: Points of Ron DeSantis, who was the far and away

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Speaker 5: front running challenger when he got into this race.

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Speaker 6: He's now in fourth place in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 5: So, you know, I feel like we've made enormous progress

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Speaker 5: in just two and.

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Speaker 6: A half months. And I will remind you also that

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Speaker 6: these national polls mean absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 5: We don't have a national primary, and the race will

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Speaker 5: change when Ioland's vote. The race will change again when

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Speaker 5: the residents of New Hampshire vote, and again when the

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Speaker 5: residents of South Carolina and Nevada vote, and those first

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Speaker 5: four will cull the herd significantly, and we'll see how

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Speaker 5: it goes from there. And I think you might even have,

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Speaker 5: you know, a smaller stage in late September, given that

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Speaker 5: the criteria increase and some of the people who were

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Speaker 5: on stage last night, you know, may not make it

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Speaker 5: to next month.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the people that you didn't think were bought

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Speaker 2: and paid for in terms of the ak Ramaswami going

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Speaker 2: after that allegation that he made last night during the debate.

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Speaker 2: You didn't mention Ron DeSantis. Do you think Ronda Santis

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Speaker 2: has bought and paid for?

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Speaker 6: But what I think is he's rented.

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Speaker 5: I think he's rented by big money interests in Florida.

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Speaker 5: You know, you don't raise eighty three million in Florida

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Speaker 5: and have that happened, it transfers to your presidential account,

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Speaker 5: then raise more money, more soft money. I think that

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Speaker 5: and when you see that that super packed structure dictates

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Speaker 5: your debate strategy.

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Speaker 6: And we watched last night.

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Speaker 5: As he repeated, sometimes effectively sometimes that's effectively memorized soundbites

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Speaker 5: from you know, those those memos. The memo is so

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Speaker 5: effected that even Vivese was using a never back down memo.

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Speaker 5: And so you know, that's what makes me laugh about

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Speaker 5: you know, Viveke accusing everybody else. And this is a guy,

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Speaker 5: you know who wrote a book, you know, condemning Donald

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Speaker 5: Trump and his activities on January sixth, and then when

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Speaker 5: I call him on it on the stage last night,

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Speaker 5: he says he never said it. Well, he wrote it

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Speaker 5: in a book or his ghostwriter wrote it in the

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Speaker 5: book under his name. So look, I think that Ron

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Speaker 5: has a lot to answer for in terms of the

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Speaker 5: concept of his super pack and the conduct of you know,

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Speaker 5: his own campaign in the in there what appears to

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Speaker 5: be very very close coordination between the two, and that

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Speaker 5: makes everybody a little bit squirrely.

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Speaker 2: I think you mentioned vivecan now he is the ardent

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Speaker 2: and most ardent. I think it's fair to say defender

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Speaker 2: of Donald Trump on that stage last night. Is Theveke

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Speaker 2: in your mind? And we just had him on so

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Speaker 2: people can go listen to the interview that we did

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Speaker 2: with him.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the Veke.

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Speaker 2: Is running to beat Trump and become president of the

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Speaker 2: United States or do you think he's auditioning to be

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Speaker 2: as vice president.

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Speaker 5: I think he's auditioning for something. I don't think, knowing

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump as well as I do, I might have

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Speaker 5: as good a chance to be.

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Speaker 6: Vice president as Vivek.

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump's not going to pick somebody who shoots their

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Speaker 5: mouth off like Theveke did last night in the number

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Speaker 5: two spot. He's going to pick someone who is much

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Speaker 5: more controllable than somebody like the Veke. So I think

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Speaker 5: Veke may be, you know, auditioning for a cabinet position.

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Speaker 5: I think it would be honestly kind of silly for

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Speaker 5: him to be thinking that he'd be picked for vice

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Speaker 5: president over a number of other people that I think

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Speaker 5: the president, the former president believes he has better relationships

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Speaker 5: with and might be more of his prototypical type of

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Speaker 5: vice president. Remember Mike Pence was selected as vice president

847
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Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, and in part because, as he told

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Speaker 5: Lee at the time, Mike Pence was out of central casting.

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Speaker 5: You know, a quiet vice president that would not cause

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Speaker 5: any trouble. I don't think anyone could describe the vake

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Speaker 5: that way.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Chris Christy, he was on the stage last

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Speaker 2: night in Milwaukee. Governor Christie, when you look now going forward,

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Speaker 2: you mentioned it's only August, though there's another debate in

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Speaker 2: a month. You mentioned some of those people may not

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Speaker 2: be on the stage. One of the things that's going

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Speaker 2: to continue to loom is Trump. And you came on

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Speaker 2: with us before right as some of the alley, right

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Speaker 2: as the Hunter Biden investigation blew up, and I thought, candidly,

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Speaker 2: your strongest argument all night was that if you were

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Speaker 2: president of the United States, Hunter Biden would be in prison.

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Speaker 2: When you see, and I'm sure you've seen this, because

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Speaker 2: it's headlines everywhere that Fanny Willis is asking for that

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Speaker 2: Rico case to go to trial now October twenty third,

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Speaker 2: that's basically two months from today.

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Speaker 3: How crazy is that? What do you think this is

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Speaker 3: going to look like?

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Speaker 2: Do you think the odds are based on your knowledge

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Speaker 2: as an assistant, as a district attorney, state's attorney. Sorry,

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Speaker 2: all the time that you spent prosecuting people. Do you

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Speaker 2: think Trump is going to be able to avoid these

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Speaker 2: cases going to trial? How many of you think would

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Speaker 2: go to trial between now and election day twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: Well, let me say this first off. That case is

875
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Speaker 5: in Atlanta, is not going to trial on October.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, no shots, No.

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Speaker 5: Shots, Maybe October of twenty five.

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Speaker 2: Governor, I asked, yeah, I said, when the October date

879
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Speaker 2: went up, they didn't put the year, and I asked

880
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Speaker 2: my staff. I was like, are they talking about October

881
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Speaker 2: of twenty four? That surely she doesn't mean two months

882
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Speaker 2: from now. So sorry to cut you off, But that

883
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Speaker 2: was my initial reaction too.

884
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Speaker 3: I thought it was crazy, there's no shot.

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Speaker 6: Look, I think that there are two cases that have

886
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Speaker 6: the chance to be tried.

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Speaker 5: At or before the Convention, the New York case and

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Speaker 5: the January sixth case. I think that the classified documents case,

889
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 5: which I think is the strongest case against it, It's

890
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Speaker 5: going to take time to get people cleared to review

891
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Speaker 5: those classified documents, to get a jury selected, and all

892
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 5: the rest. I have a hard time, believing that they'll

893
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Speaker 5: be able to try that case, you know, before the

894
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Speaker 5: late fall of twenty twenty four. So I think your

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Speaker 5: maximum play would be the New York case, which I

896
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Speaker 5: think very well could happen this spring, not a complicated case,

897
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Speaker 5: and the January sixth case because Donald Trump's the only defendant.

898
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Speaker 5: And I think that's the reason that Jacksmith did it

899
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Speaker 5: that way. He didn't please this big case like Fanny

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Speaker 5: Willis did because he wanted it to actually have a

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Speaker 5: fast track to trials.

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Speaker 6: So I think that could happen.

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Speaker 5: Anywhere from like mid spring of twenty four into the

904
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Speaker 5: early summer of twenty four. So I think he's going

905
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Speaker 5: to be facing two trials, and Republican primary voters have

906
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Speaker 5: to ask themselves, is that really our best foot forward

907
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Speaker 5: to beat Joe Biden.

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Speaker 6: That's kind of what I said in my closing last night.

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Speaker 5: Like you think that Joe Biden and the Democrats are

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Speaker 5: going to be afraid of Donald Trump, who very well

911
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Speaker 5: could be convicted felon in two different matters before the

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Speaker 5: fall election, And that's who we're saying is our best

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Speaker 5: candidate put up against Joe Biden. Let's not make this

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Speaker 5: a grudge match. The stakes are too high because Clay,

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Speaker 5: let me tell you, if the Democrat, if Biden wins.

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Speaker 6: He's going to take the house back.

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Speaker 5: That means we're going to have Supreme Court packing.

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Speaker 6: That means we're going to eliminate the filibuster.

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Speaker 5: This is going to be a cataclysmic loss for the country.

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Speaker 6: If we don't nominate someone who can win.

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Speaker 5: And Donald Trump, given what he's facing and e they're

922
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Speaker 5: going to be hearing before trial, he's got to show

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Speaker 5: up in.

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Speaker 6: All that stuff. He's out on bail, Clay, you're not

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Speaker 6: allowed not to show up. And that's going to be

926
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Speaker 6: the circus we're going to be seeing between now and then.

927
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Speaker 6: And the shame of it is that.

928
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Speaker 5: It is all self created, all of it. And I

929
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Speaker 5: can't imagine that Republicans are going to look at that

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Speaker 5: and say, yeah, that's two times felon. That's our best

931
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Speaker 5: shot to beat Joe Biden. Joe Biden wants Donald Trump,

932
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Speaker 5: and if we are dumb enough to give him Donald Trump,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna really arm the country.

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Speaker 2: Chris Christy, right off the debate stage onto the show,

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Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 6: Clay always great being on the program, and please tell

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Speaker 6: Buck I sick. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Great work for sure, he's having a good time in

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Speaker 2: Scotland and he and his new bride are continue to

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Chris Christy.

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Speaker 1: The Truth Compass Pointing Do Right every Day, The Clay

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Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Welcome Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. The Aker

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Speaker 2: Amaswami I thought one of the best interviews we've had

959
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Speaker 2: with a candidate so far on this show. As we

960
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Speaker 2: have been in the process of doing this show over

961
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Speaker 2: the past couple of years, we got now I'm here

962
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Speaker 2: in New York.

963
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Speaker 3: We have got a guy who.

964
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Speaker 2: Has seen a few debates over the years, who was

965
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Speaker 2: getting ready to do his own show in about an

966
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Speaker 2: hour and a half, and then we'll do another show

967
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Speaker 2: later in the evening. And also, I don't even know

968
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Speaker 2: when you got in. Were you in Milwaukee last night?

969
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Speaker 2: I think I was in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 4: Guy.

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Speaker 7: Let's say I didn't sleep a lot. But I love

972
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Speaker 7: this stuff. So for me, it's just a lot of fun.

973
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Speaker 7: And I get to see it twice today. How great

974
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Speaker 7: is that?

975
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

976
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Speaker 7: I like the debate. Thing that stood out to me

977
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Speaker 7: big picture more than anything else is you know, I'm

978
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Speaker 7: looking listening to these people, and then I'm thinking of

979
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Speaker 7: Joe Biden, the corpse that is really cognitively is deteriorating

980
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 7: before our eyes. And we've all discussed that, we all

981
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Speaker 7: see it. But now he was an unmitigated disaster beyond

982
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Speaker 7: the fact that he was cold and callous, out of

983
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Speaker 7: touch on vacation. No comment. I don't want to be

984
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Speaker 7: a distraction, Okay, You're not going to be a distraction

985
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Speaker 7: when you're flying over what is a desolate area that

986
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Speaker 7: has been burned to the ground. So I'm looking at

987
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Speaker 7: these candidates. I did think some people have had a

988
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Speaker 7: particularly better night than others. And I'm looking at these

989
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Speaker 7: candidates and I'm like, oh my gosh, any one of

990
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 7: them looks that. Maybe Chris Christy and yeah, if he

991
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Speaker 7: was not so obsessed with Trump, Trump Trump. I can't

992
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 7: stand Republicans that love to be and become dupes of

993
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 7: the liberal media and they are their great champion and

994
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 7: they love him. John McCain went down that road and

995
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 7: the media loved him when he was criticizing his own party.

996
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 7: The minute that guy became a candidate for president, a

997
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 7: real candidate. Yeah, they took every knife out of the savage.

998
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 7: They savaged them. Same with Mitt Romney, and then Mitt

999
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 7: Romney goes back to trying to kiss theirs.

1000
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Speaker 3: I can't.

1001
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Speaker 7: I just can't take it. And that's how I view

1002
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 7: Chris Christy in this race. And frankly Asa Hutchinson. Seriously,

1003
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 7: so why are we wasting time on these people?

1004
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: The vag we just had him on, people are reacting

1005
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 2: to him. He was incredible on this on the hit

1006
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 2: he just did with us. Is he in it in

1007
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 2: your mind to actually beat Trump? Because I asked him

1008
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Speaker 2: directly he said he is, or do you think really

1009
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,120
Speaker 2: he wants to be Trump's VP?

1010
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Speaker 7: It's I think you bringing up an interesting point. I

1011
00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 7: think probably the latter, if he has realistic experts. One

1012
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 7: thing that I've learned about presidential candidates over the years

1013
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 7: is that they all think they're gonna win, and when

1014
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 7: they lose, they were not expecting to lose. Al Gore

1015
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 7: lost the election and then he lost his mind. Hillary

1016
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 7: lost the election. Hillary kind of lost his mind. John

1017
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Speaker 7: McCain I would say the same thing. Mitt Romney went

1018
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 7: off the Relves and I it just is because I

1019
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 7: think they believe in their mind they're gonna win.

1020
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Speaker 3: Fiers.

1021
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Speaker 2: That's a good point because you have to have a

1022
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,960
Speaker 2: certain level of delusion. You think, right, I'm going to

1023
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: run for president and I'm gonna win. I'm the greatest

1024
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 2: possible contender to get the most important job in the world.

1025
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 2: That requires a level of delusion, like a lot of

1026
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: athletes have.

1027
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 3: You know you'll lose the super Bowl.

1028
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,319
Speaker 2: It takes sometimes the starting quarterback who loses for a

1029
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: long time to recover because you have to convince yourself

1030
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,440
Speaker 2: you can do it, and then dealing with that failure

1031
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: when you put everything in is very difficult.

1032
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Speaker 7: It is, but it shouldn't be.

1033
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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

1034
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Speaker 7: I like, for example, Djokovic when he when he lost

1035
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 7: so what's his name, Alvarez in Wimbledon, right, Okay, there's

1036
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 7: no doubt he thought he was gonna win that match.

1037
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Speaker 7: He won the first set. I thought he was on

1038
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Speaker 7: his way to winning and get another title. Yes, And

1039
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Speaker 7: first of all, the guy's his opponent was young, amazing, gifted, talented,

1040
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 7: rising star for sure, and uh and then they're probably

1041
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Speaker 7: going to face each other if I had to guess

1042
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Speaker 7: in in the finals of the US Open. And you know,

1043
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 7: but but I saw a graciousness. He had been through

1044
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Speaker 7: the experience of battling Federer and Nadal and and those guys.

1045
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 7: But you know, it's a lot, it's a lot like

1046
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 7: professional sports. What I find fascinating now is every every

1047
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:51,920
Speaker 7: single sports show now is all about betting. It's all

1048
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 7: about betting.

1049
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Speaker 2: This one too soon, I think we're gonna have something advertised. Well,

1050
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 2: you know, rush, back in the day before sports gambling

1051
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: was legal, was one of the best people at signing

1052
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Speaker 2: up people for DraftKings and FanDuel out there in the day.

1053
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Speaker 3: You guys did some of this too. He did some

1054
00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 3: of it to a ton of success.

1055
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Speaker 7: I do worry because I think some people that have

1056
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Speaker 7: addictive personalities, this is going to be an epidemic of

1057
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Speaker 7: people getting addicted to gambling that bothers. There's no doubt,

1058
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Speaker 7: and so I think there's a danger of it. But

1059
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Speaker 7: I'm also a person that believes in freedom. You believe

1060
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 7: in freedom. If you want to mess up your life,

1061
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Speaker 7: mess it up.

1062
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Speaker 2: What do you think by the way Trump is thinking?

1063
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 2: You may have already talked to him. What do you

1064
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Speaker 2: think Trump is thinking in the wake of last night's debate.

1065
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Speaker 7: You know, I didn't talk to him, yet I'm guessing

1066
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Speaker 7: he thinks that's it.

1067
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Speaker 6: Maybe.

1068
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 7: Look, I didn't get involved in whether he should or shouldn't.

1069
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Speaker 7: I understand why he didn't. And when you're up thirty

1070
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 7: forty forty five points in a primary, you know it

1071
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 7: was a good opportunity for him to look at the

1072
00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 7: competition and size it up. Who could actually challenge him?

1073
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Speaker 7: Conventional wisdom is that you're gonna have to whittle this

1074
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 7: field down and make it a one on one and

1075
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Speaker 7: Republicans that don't want Donald Trump. And look, the guy's

1076
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 7: good at making a lot of enemies. Yes, the establishment

1077
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 7: hates him and they will they have to call us

1078
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 7: around one other person. However, don't underestimate his magabase. What

1079
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,560
Speaker 7: I worry the most about for Donald Trump is that look,

1080
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Speaker 7: these these these indictments, another arrayment, Tonight, fulland County. I mean,

1081
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Speaker 7: that's a heavy, heavy load. That's a big burden that

1082
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 7: he's carrying with him. Now. You could say that his

1083
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 7: entire presidency he had similar circumstances. He was working under

1084
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,479
Speaker 7: the Trump Rush, a collusion lie. It takes us five

1085
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 7: years to figure out the whole thing was total bs.

1086
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 7: There's something wrong with our system. And Joe Biden up

1087
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 7: to his eyeballs and lies and involvement and in tens

1088
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Speaker 7: of millions of dollars from many hostile regimes, you know,

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Speaker 7: enriching his entire family, nine family members. Nobody in the

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Speaker 7: media wants to talk about it. Clay the way, where's.

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Speaker 3: Buck Buck is in Scotland? He and Carrie.

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Speaker 2: He's not a golfer, but he and Carrie had never

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00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 2: been to Scotland before his wife. They are over there.

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Speaker 2: I saw a picture from the Scottish Highlands. He is

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00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 2: having it seems an awesome time. Have you been to Scotland.

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Speaker 7: I've not been to Scotland.

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Speaker 3: I've not even been.

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 7: I have relatives in Ireland, and my sisters have been

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Speaker 7: over there, and they're pissed because they know that all

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Speaker 7: four of my grandparents came from Ireland at the turn

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Speaker 7: of the last century. Yeah, and they came here dirt poor.

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Speaker 7: I mean study you know, lived in poverty. My parents

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00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 7: grew up really poor, and so you know, I really

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00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 7: have a lot to be thankful for. I know, I

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00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 7: stand on their.

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Speaker 3: Shoulders, no doubt. Same here if.

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Speaker 7: Even if even anyone would think I'm successful anyway, you know,

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Speaker 7: I don't know how do you define success? Clay.

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Speaker 2: You have got a show tonight that will be live.

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Speaker 2: Who want to come may and check it out.

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Speaker 3: I'll be on it.

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Speaker 7: They gets sold out, But yeah, there you go. That's

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00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 7: a good problem to have. That's a good problem to have.

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Speaker 7: Congratulations to your OutKick is growing by leaps and bounds.

1115
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 7: We use you a lot. Uh, Tommy Laren has really

1116
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 7: she's killing it. She's really come into her own I

1117
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 7: think it's done a phenomenal job as a guest on

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00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 7: our show, Charlie. You know instantaneously she's been you know,

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00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 7: a huge addition for you.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 7: You got a great team around you, and congratulations.

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00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,919
Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that. And we're doing an OutKick show

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Speaker 2: that will air Sunday at ten pm, which I'm grateful

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Speaker 2: to be able to check out.

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Speaker 7: Yeah on Fox News, you should have gotten it at

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00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 7: nine right after Levin. Levin leaded Well then, man, he

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00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 7: is five, as you well know.

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Speaker 3: Uh, let's fire it up.

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00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 7: This is the only guest in the history of television

1130
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 7: that tells the host that's it.

1131
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 4: I'm done.

1132
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 7: Listen to those radio shows. Oh yet got off my phone,

1133
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:54,680
Speaker 7: your big dope.

1134
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 2: I was his guest talking about the book. I know

1135
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 2: it came on your show too, Uh, and it was

1136
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. Hey, you're killing.

1137
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 7: It, by the way, congrats on the book, too, huge

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Speaker 7: bestseller number one.

1139
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Speaker 2: You know they hate us, so we have to do

1140
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,960
Speaker 2: infinitely better than any Yeah else, you.

1141
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 7: Have to about double the sales of everybody else. But

1142
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 7: that's awesome.

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Speaker 3: Hey, I appreciate it.

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00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,560
Speaker 7: All right, I'm going to get ready and do some

1145
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 7: prep and actually try and be prepared. He'll be on

1146
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 7: after yours.

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00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, in about an hour and fifteen minutes on many

1148
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Speaker 2: of these same stations.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, my man.

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00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 7: All right, brother, God bless everybody.

1151
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Speaker 3: Thank you.

1152
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: We'll go to break here, I'll take your calls and

1153
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 2: we come back. I've been promising that I will do

1154
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 2: it for a while. You can react to Vivak, who

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00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: I thought was incredible at the top of the hour. Reminder,

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00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 2: Chris Christy will be on with us at the top

1157
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 2: of the next hour. A lot going on, a little

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00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 2: bit of an information out there, and this is crazy,

1159
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why it's crazy when we come back.

1160
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 2: But Fanny Willis, the prosecutor in Atlanta, has requested now

1161
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Speaker 2: remember initially she requested a March fifth trial of next year.

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00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: She now as requested October twenty third, that is two

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Speaker 2: months from today, to start the Trump trial in Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy. We'll talk about it in the meantime.

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Speaker 2: If you're holding on to old family memories, videotape, tape, film,

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Speaker 2: you know what, it's It's Christmas before long, believe it

1167
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 2: or not, You're gonna start to see things set up

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Speaker 2: for Christmas soon.

1169
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Speaker 3: The end of summer is here.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you're sitting around and you're thinking to yourself, Hey,

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Speaker 2: what am I gonna do to preserve these family memories forever.

1172
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 2: Maybe you're sitting around and you're thinking, hey, we've been

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Speaker 2: going to the same place as a family for summer

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01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 2: vacation forever. Maybe you go to the beach, maybe you

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Speaker 2: go to the mountains. There's some place out there. I

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Speaker 2: bet for many of you that just evokes family memories

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Speaker 2: because you go there all the time. Have you preserved

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01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 2: all those those family memories from the past, several generations

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 2: of the beach or the mountains, or the amusement park,

1180
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 2: wherever you may go and have gone over the past

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Speaker 2: couple of generations with your family. It's time to preserve

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Speaker 2: those memories forever. Make sure your pictures, your videos, they

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Speaker 2: don't go away. They are preserved forever. Legacy Box does it,

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Speaker 2: The great thing is when you get the digital files back,

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Speaker 2: you can easily share them with family members by just

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Speaker 2: forwarding a link. Don't wait to do it. Keep your

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Speaker 2: family memories preserved. Go to legacybox dot com slash clay.

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Speaker 2: That's the legacybox dot Com slash Clay. You get to

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Speaker 2: know the guys outside the issues. Sunday Hang with Clay

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Speaker 2: and vod on you podcast. Find it on the iHeart

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