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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Thank

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Speaker 1: you Bill Barr, Thank you Jamie Comer. You heard me,

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Speaker 1: Trump's disgraced ex Attorney General Barr and Kentucky's ever disgrace

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Speaker 1: full which Hunter extraordinaire Comer have reignited the Trump's Stein

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Speaker 1: cover up scandal just as the Embers were about to

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Speaker 1: go out. Comber will now release what he has already

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Speaker 1: leaked that William Barr told Comber's Keystone Cops Oversight Committee

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Speaker 1: investigators about the avalanche of evidence linking Epstein and Trump

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Speaker 1: that quote he had never seen anything that would implicate

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Speaker 1: President Trump in any of this. Maga is thus braying

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Speaker 1: it is case closed. They have both released the Epstein files,

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Speaker 1: and they have cleared their lord and savior, slave Master

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Speaker 1: Trump about Epstein, except for one problem. The reason Bar

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Speaker 1: never saw the evidence that would implicate Trump with Epstein

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Speaker 1: is he has never shown it. The first Trump regime

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Speaker 1: US attorney for the Southern District of New York, the

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Speaker 1: one Trump personally interviewed and appointed, the former Trump transition

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Speaker 1: team volunteer Jeffrey Berman, says he didn't show the evidence

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Speaker 1: to Bar three years ago. Berman, whom Trump also fired

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Speaker 1: wrote a book about his experiences called Holding the Line.

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Speaker 1: Turns out one of the things he held was the

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Speaker 1: Epstein evidence. He held it back from bar Quoting mister Berman,

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Speaker 1: I never briefed bar on the investigation. The charges we

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Speaker 1: were seeking did not need main justice approval, and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't think of any way in which he would be

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Speaker 1: that if he had any concerns or objections, we didn't

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Speaker 1: have to deal with them. Unquote. So Trump's own guy

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Speaker 1: that prosecution. And when that attorney general says he didn't

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Speaker 1: see what, they never showed him, Trump's apologists and co

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Speaker 1: conspirators like Jamie Comer are now trumpeting that as an

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Speaker 1: exoneration as opposed to what it really is, which is

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Speaker 1: yet another Trump cover up of the Epstein crimes and

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Speaker 1: the Epstein network and whatever Trump did or did not

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Speaker 1: have to do with Epstein. But wait, there's more. In

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Speaker 1: that book, former US Attorney Berman also hints that the

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Speaker 1: whole matter of prosecuting Epstein under Trump was a third rail,

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Speaker 1: because it was former US Attorney in Florida, Alex Acosta,

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Speaker 1: let Epstein get away with it, that guaranteed Acosta's office

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Speaker 1: would not prosecute Epstein. That's Acosta, US attorney under President

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush and part of the Trump one cabinet,

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Speaker 1: again quoting holding the line by Trump's own US attorney

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Speaker 1: appoint Jeff Furman. Quote, as we started our work, there

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Speaker 1: have preferred we stay away from. I did not know

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Speaker 1: the answer to that then or even now. I also

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Speaker 1: didn't care. Unquote. If all this sounds structurally familiar to you,

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Speaker 1: Bill Barr doesn't legally or technically lie. He tells you

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Speaker 1: that everybody who worked for him told him to turn

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Speaker 1: was being committed. It is because this is the exact

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Speaker 1: same mo that Bill Barr used when Trump had him

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Speaker 1: serve as liar in chief washing the Muller Report, Barr

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Speaker 1: Muller Report, Trump and his minions that announced Barr had

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Speaker 1: this bar sleight of hand sticks. They had Comer leak

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Speaker 1: it in advance so that whenever more of Barr's testimony

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Speaker 1: about Trump and Epstein is released today, I know nothing

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Speaker 1: They can hammer home the lie that everything Bar saw

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Speaker 1: proves that Trump had nothing to do with it. This time, though,

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Speaker 1: there is another quote that should get similar play if

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Speaker 1: the stenographic pool that has replaced the White House Press

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Speaker 1: Corps does its job for once. The ranking Democrat on

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Speaker 1: Comer's Oversight Committee is Robert Garcia of California, and quoting

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Speaker 1: mister Garcia during his deposition with the committee, Attorney General

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Speaker 1: Barr could not clear President Trump of wrongdoing. Chairman Comer

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Speaker 1: should release the full unedited transcript of his interview for

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Speaker 1: the public. That's just as true as Comer's claim. Bar

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Speaker 1: They never showed him the evidence. That's another conspiracy. Other

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Speaker 1: than the fact that Barr's magic wand helped to make

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Speaker 1: the damning implications of the Muller report disappear, it is

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Speaker 1: in public office. The headmaster of the Dalton School in

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Speaker 1: same time that an inexperienced young man named Jeffrey Epstein

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Speaker 1: was hired to teach there at Dalton in the seventies.

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Speaker 1: That headmaster, who never saw any evidence about Epstein. That

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Speaker 1: headmaster was Donald Barr. Bill Barr's father, Barr the Elder,

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Speaker 1: was leaving Dalton to take over my alma mater, Hackley.

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Speaker 1: That was my last scoop as a student journalist, by

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Speaker 1: the way, and we students were told but did not print,

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Speaker 1: that Barr had not exactly left Dalton voluntarily. I graduated

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Speaker 1: before he started at Hackley. I do know that in

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Speaker 1: a few years there Barr nearly bankrupted the school. In

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Speaker 1: any event, Bill Barr perfect witness confirming there is a

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Speaker 1: up of the Epstein files. And as if they needed

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Speaker 1: she isn't covering up the Epstein case and renegging on

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Speaker 1: Richard Berman refused the request to unseal the testimony, which

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Speaker 1: It's meaningless anyway, even to the conspiracy theorists. The judge

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Speaker 1: slammed Trump for going back on the administration promise to

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Speaker 1: quote diversion. Quoting again, this time from the judge's ruling.

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Speaker 1: The government's one hundred thousand in pages of Epstein files

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Speaker 1: a real good job at it. Thank God for that.

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Speaker 1: White House still demanding we praise the fat fury for

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Speaker 1: solving Ukraine. But it turns out his deal with Russia

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Speaker 1: Ukraine or by anybody else. Swear to God. Art of

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Speaker 1: the deal Trump wants to get to Heaven, get working

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Speaker 1: one of the guaranteurs has to be Russia. The security

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Speaker 1: In fact, no country would be allowed to defend Ukraine

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Speaker 1: all a guarantee. Also, the summit with Zelenski and Putin,

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Speaker 1: the Trump thinks he's set up. Putin wants it in Budapest.

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Speaker 1: And if you think that's a coincidence, in nineteen ninety four,

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Speaker 1: Russia already attended a summit with Ukraine at which Russia

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Speaker 1: but I've never figured out Matt Drudge, even though it

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Speaker 1: feeding him stories from the far right. But there's something

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Speaker 1: else in play here with Matt Drudge and Ukraine and

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Speaker 1: This past week he ran out of nowhere. This headline

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Speaker 1: is the Dawn being blackmailed. The attached link not only

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Speaker 1: every possible position on Ukraine he'd resolve it immediately. He'd

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Speaker 1: you have fifty days, you have ten days. Again, we

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Speaker 1: That's the only possible explanation. Sure, it's a great side

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Speaker 1: idea that the Kremlin has compromot on Trump seems increasingly plausible.

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Speaker 1: If he capitulates to Putin on Ukraine, it will grossly

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Speaker 1: What is his real strategy? Is it to collapse the

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Speaker 1: a Corleone's style offer he couldn't refuse. Is the dictator

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Speaker 1: change as part of a capitulation to Russia? Or is

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Speaker 1: there some different hidden policy agenda in the White House?

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Speaker 1: I used to be skeptical. Mister McDowell writes about claims

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Speaker 1: that Putin had access to compromot on Trump that explained

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Speaker 1: his grubbling relationship with the Kremlin. But if such compromant

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Speaker 1: the White House is behaving as it does towards Ukraine. Unquote,

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Speaker 1: you know what this means. It rhymes with weeescape, doesn't it.

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Speaker 1: Let's party like it's two thy sixteen. Here's a question.

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Speaker 1: Is the army in the streets of Washington is that

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Speaker 1: connected to Trump's unconstitutional vow to usurp control of the

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Speaker 1: can only be counted that one night, and that's it. Quote.

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Speaker 1: government in counting and tabulating the votes. Bullshit. Maybe per

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Speaker 1: the interpretation of the terrorists at the Heritage Foundation, but

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Speaker 1: Any concern madam that people might think that, irrespective of

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Speaker 2: For example, just before Congress enacted the original Trump Chump

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Speaker 1: ninety seven. My memo in the interoffice mail envelope finally

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Speaker 1: got to the fifty second floor. MSNBC possibly the worst

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Speaker 1: name of any news network ever conceived in any language,

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Speaker 1: and they have now somehow found something worse to call it.

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Speaker 1: That's next. This is count Down, Countdown, which has outlasted

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Speaker 1: the name MSNBC. This is Countdown with Keith Oberman Oberman

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Speaker 1: with the.

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Speaker 2: Nobel Peace Prize.

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Speaker 1: Finally it dawns on me who she reminds me of? Who?

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Speaker 1: Caroline Lying Levitt Lying reminds me of? Ever seen SCTV

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Speaker 1: the original sc TV, and Katherine O'Hara playing in a

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Speaker 1: sketch about a TV quiz show high school students, high

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Speaker 1: School Challenge or something like that, the equivalent of what

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Speaker 1: we used to have in the US called the College Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the ge College Bowl, Perdue versus the University of somewhere,

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00:35:24,475 --> 00:35:27,235
Speaker 1: and people would show just how little they actually had

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Speaker 1: learned in school. And in this episode, in this sketch,

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Speaker 1: Katherine O'Hara plays this girl who talks like this, and

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Speaker 1: every answer she gives she buzzes in before the question

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Speaker 1: has been asked, and I think it's Eugene Levy of

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Speaker 1: all people as the MC, and he says in Nordway,

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Speaker 1: and she buzzes in and goes Dewey decimal system. And

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Speaker 1: then the next one is when the Titanic Dewey decimal System.

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Speaker 1: Every answer is Dewey Decimal System. That's Caroline Levitt. Death

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Speaker 1: of Noble Peace Pray still ahead on this edition of

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Speaker 1: Countdown the Nobel Peace Prize winning program. It's happened again.

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Speaker 1: Another colleague has announced he's done, He's finished. No more broadcasting,

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Speaker 1: the news is dead. And I said, sit down and

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Speaker 1: shut up for an hour while I recite to you

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Speaker 1: all the times I have been told that about my career,

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Speaker 1: because the most recent one was like six months ago,

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Speaker 1: and the first one, well, we will be coming up

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Speaker 1: on the forty first anniversary of it this November. Good evening,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the ends of my career one a

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Speaker 1: decade since the eighties. Next in things I promised not

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Speaker 1: to tell first, believe it or not, there's still more

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Speaker 1: new idiots to talk about. The roundup of the misgrants,

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Speaker 1: morons and Dunning Krueger effects specimens who constitute today's other

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Speaker 1: worst persons in the world. Do ey decmal system, the

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Speaker 1: Brons worse BBC News, as I always say when I

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Speaker 1: torch them. Look, the reporters are unmatched, probably in the

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Speaker 1: English language, maybe in the entirety of the world. I

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Speaker 1: don't speak French. I can't speak to the French news,

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Speaker 1: and their worst is still better than the best offered

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Speaker 1: by CNN or MSNBC, to say nothing of Fascist News channel.

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Speaker 1: But boy, oh boy, are there in studio editors and

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Speaker 1: producers naive and easily led. I mean sometimes it looks

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Speaker 1: like a high school newscast. The Big Second Day Story

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Speaker 1: on BBC World News, which they call that not as

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Speaker 1: a brand name. They actually show it all over the world.

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Speaker 1: That's why they call it that, their Big Second Day Story.

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Speaker 1: After Zelenski and friends went the White House, they interviewed

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Speaker 1: Zelenski's suit guy not not some lawyer, not lawsuit, Zelenski's stylist,

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Speaker 1: his wardrobe fella, about Zelenski's new suit, the one he

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Speaker 1: wore to the White House, about the idiot remark that

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Speaker 1: the bimbo Brian Glenn of the Rave News Network made

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Speaker 1: about Zelenski's fatigues from the meeting in February and comparing

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Speaker 1: it to the Zippier suit that Zelensky wore on Monday,

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Speaker 1: and then the punishment that Brian Glenn took when he

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Speaker 1: smarmily tried to suck up to Zelensky by apologizing to him,

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Speaker 1: and Zolensky vaporized him. An entire segment on BBC World News,

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Speaker 1: which I'd like to remind you is shown around the world.

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Speaker 1: Do he Decimal system? An entire segment with the anchor

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Speaker 1: Christian phrase who's a little holier than now at times

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Speaker 1: but otherwise okay, and the interviewee was speaking Ukrainian with

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Speaker 1: a translator. The whole segment on Zelensky's wardrobe, and not

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Speaker 1: once was the thing that tied the whole room together

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Speaker 1: ever mentioned the TV guy from rav Rave who insulted

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Speaker 1: Zelenski in the first place and got smashed up this time.

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Speaker 1: Brian Glenn is the boyfriend of the insufferable Marjorie Stupid Green.

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Speaker 1: To treat Brian Glenn as just some sort of ordinary

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Speaker 1: right wing conspiracy nut reporter is to miss the point.

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Speaker 1: There is not a vast right wing conspiracy. It is

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Speaker 1: still in this country only a couple of hundred people tops.

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Speaker 1: If they disappeared, tomorrow nature would begin to heal. But

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Speaker 1: they are all in the and I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it's coordinated. They don't have meetings. There isn't a rule book.

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Speaker 1: It's not like that they don't speak on some sort

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Speaker 1: of code. They didn't instill some sort of method of

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Speaker 1: making us do what they want to and tracking our

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Speaker 1: whereabouts other than to sell us all these thousand dollars

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00:40:24,075 --> 00:40:27,675
Speaker 1: phones that don't work and do track our whereabouts, but

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Speaker 1: they do coordinate to some degree. Maybe once a year.

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Speaker 1: That question was asked in February, and the phony apology

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Speaker 1: was spoken intentionally. Somebody thought about it in advance. How

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Speaker 1: to put Zelenski back on his heels ask him about

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Speaker 1: his jumpsuit. You have to make in covering this story.

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Speaker 1: If you're going to interview somebody about what Zelensky is wearing,

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Speaker 1: you have to mention that the alleged reporter. You have

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Speaker 1: to make some reference to the fact that the alleged

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Speaker 1: reporter actually is so deep in this pit of filth

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Speaker 1: that he is willing to put his hands on Marjorie

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Speaker 1: Taylor Green, I hope you weren't eating food, Speaking of

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Speaker 1: which the runner up worser MSNBC. Oh no, no, they

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Speaker 1: don't call it that anymore. Now it's called MISS now

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Speaker 1: or msnow or is it MS now as in M

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Speaker 1: and M's who the candy channel, M and M's now.

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Speaker 1: I've kind of like that. I don't know what it's called.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how to pronounce it. I guess I

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Speaker 1: guess this comes from the fact that internally people think

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Speaker 1: that anybody outside of thirty Rock or the place they

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Speaker 1: kicked them out of, thirty Rock two in Times Square,

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Speaker 1: the people who work there think that they're not the

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Speaker 1: only ones who refer to it as MS. No one

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Speaker 1: watching MSNBC has ever referred to it as MS. People

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Speaker 1: who work their call it that, but they have not

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Speaker 1: thought this through. Why would you want to call your

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Speaker 1: network something that is the same acronym for a devastating

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00:42:24,275 --> 00:42:30,635
Speaker 1: and heartbreaking physical ailment and disease? Why would you do that? Internally,

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Speaker 1: it's just an abbreviation to differentiate from CNBC or NBC. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's say they have the they have the box of

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Speaker 1: macaroons over there at MS. Yeah. No, there's cake. There's

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Speaker 1: cake in the MS newsroom. That's fine. But the keeping

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Speaker 1: the MS part, it's just madness. Anyway, They claim that

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Speaker 1: MSNOW is an acronym standing for my Source News Opinion World,

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00:43:04,315 --> 00:43:08,595
Speaker 1: which is actually somehow worse than what the original MSNBC

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Speaker 1: acronym stood for, which was Microsoft NBC now the background

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Speaker 1: to the name MSNBC when I went to work there

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven, and they're year two. NBC News

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Speaker 1: president Andy Lack, who's nuts, warned me before taking me

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Speaker 1: into a meeting with the guy from Microsoft. It's top

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Speaker 1: Microsoft exec who thought he was running the place. He said, Lack,

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Speaker 1: that is, we agreed to call it that MSNBC so

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Speaker 1: that the Microsoft would give us their money and their

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00:43:45,515 --> 00:43:49,715
Speaker 1: computer terminals for free. Just not at whatever this asshole says.

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00:43:50,355 --> 00:43:52,835
Speaker 1: And then and just ignore him. And if you're not

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Speaker 1: sure what to say, look to look to me or

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00:43:54,915 --> 00:43:57,635
Speaker 1: Phil Griffin, and we'll give you an indication what to say.

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00:43:58,235 --> 00:44:01,475
Speaker 1: Just humor. We just need his money. That's all he

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00:44:01,515 --> 00:44:03,835
Speaker 1: gets in this deal. He didn't read the fine print.

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00:44:05,035 --> 00:44:08,835
Speaker 1: So it was Microsoft NBC and they thought they were

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00:44:08,915 --> 00:44:12,355
Speaker 1: merging cable and the Internet. And the solution to that

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Speaker 1: was to call the eight o'clock show inter Night, you

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Speaker 1: get it instead of Internet. That was Phil Griffin's idea

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Speaker 1: he was the president of MSNBC. Not only was that

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Speaker 1: Phil Griffin's idea, it happened in nineteen ninety six, and

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Speaker 1: it was Phil Griffins's most recent idea, just not at

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Speaker 1: whatever he says. So with MSNBC, I'm sorry, it's now

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Speaker 1: called Miss Magazine has merged with the National Organization for Women,

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Speaker 1: with MSNBC changing its name as it is spun off

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Speaker 1: by Comcast and kicked out of the house before Comcast

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Speaker 1: sells it off and the new owners destroy it like

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Speaker 1: they did to CNN. I'd like to point out that

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Speaker 1: the first time I suggested it would be a good

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Speaker 1: idea to dissociate itself from NBC News and create its

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Speaker 1: own identity, because people who were watching US on MSNBC

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Speaker 1: had already decided they did not want to watch NBC News,

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00:45:15,275 --> 00:45:17,435
Speaker 1: which is exactly the reverse of the logic of the

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Speaker 1: Andy Lacks, who thought, well, people who like NBC News

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Speaker 1: will certainly want to watch US twenty four hours a day. No,

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Speaker 1: you don't understand. They have just as much MSNBC over

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Speaker 1: here and as much NBC News over there as they

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Speaker 1: could possibly use. They don't want to go from one

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Speaker 1: to the other call it something else. You'll never get

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00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:42,355
Speaker 1: away from the idea that it's just NBC Junior. You'll

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Speaker 1: never get away from the idea that this is the

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Speaker 1: triple A team for NBC News. And Andy Lack of

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Speaker 1: course thought, well, that's great. We like to have a

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Speaker 1: triple A team for NBC News, which is all he wanted,

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Speaker 1: a place for Brian Williams to practice. Well, he practiced

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Speaker 1: a lot, but he wasn't practicing what they thought he

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00:45:59,995 --> 00:46:06,315
Speaker 1: was practicing. I invented air. The first time I asked

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00:46:06,355 --> 00:46:08,955
Speaker 1: them whether or not it was a good idea to

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00:46:09,115 --> 00:46:12,395
Speaker 1: rename the place was like the week I started in

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Speaker 1: October nineteen ninety seven and in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 1: and I still have the memo, and maybe I'll sit

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Speaker 1: down and read the whole thing on here one day.

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00:46:20,155 --> 00:46:24,035
Speaker 1: I propose they rebrand it and make it simple. I said,

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Speaker 1: you want to have a news network, call your new

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00:46:26,955 --> 00:46:29,355
Speaker 1: news network name, and you can get away with this

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00:46:29,395 --> 00:46:33,355
Speaker 1: because nobody was watching MSNBC. I mean literally a few

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00:46:33,355 --> 00:46:35,435
Speaker 1: more people were watching it in two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: than there are watching it now. That's how bad things

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00:46:38,155 --> 00:46:44,395
Speaker 1: were in two thousand and three. Call it NWS. This

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00:46:44,635 --> 00:46:51,755
Speaker 1: is NWS news. That's it. You want to use an acronym,

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00:46:52,235 --> 00:46:55,835
Speaker 1: use that one co opt not just the brand name,

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Speaker 1: but an entire industry like Time magazine. Boy, that pretty

601
00:47:01,875 --> 00:47:07,075
Speaker 1: much covers it. Huh, what's your magazine about? Time or

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00:47:07,555 --> 00:47:10,395
Speaker 1: Life magazine? You have to admit you can't get better

603
00:47:10,515 --> 00:47:15,595
Speaker 1: name recognition than if you called your magazine Life or Time,

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00:47:16,595 --> 00:47:23,915
Speaker 1: or if you called your news network News. By the way,

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00:47:23,955 --> 00:47:28,795
Speaker 1: who did they send out to convince the deeply suspicious

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Speaker 1: viewers that this dumb name is not a dumb name,

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Speaker 1: that it isn't the TV equivalent of Edsel or New

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Speaker 1: Coke or Max instead of HBO or any of the

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Speaker 1: drug brand names that you can't remember or spell exactlia

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Speaker 1: for you know when you have that thing xnactlia. The

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00:47:54,715 --> 00:47:56,515
Speaker 1: point of the TV ads is to get you to

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Speaker 1: remember how to remember and spell the names of the

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Speaker 1: drugs and you can't remember what they're called. You know

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Speaker 1: who they sent out to, say, eld the most credible

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00:48:06,715 --> 00:48:15,555
Speaker 1: person on MSNBC now, No, it's MSNBC earlier and ms now.

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Speaker 1: You know who they sent out to pitch this, The

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Speaker 1: most credible person they have the most believed, the guy

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Speaker 1: whose word you can depend on whose opinion, whose position

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Speaker 1: never changes. Joe Scarborough, who said the new name is

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Speaker 1: perfect and in solidarity. Joe then changed his name to

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Speaker 1: Vidcan Quizzling look it up. But the winner the worst

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Speaker 1: el Trump Bellini again needs any distraction he can find

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Speaker 1: from Trumpstein. But this is still something he has written

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Speaker 1: as President of the United States, and thus we can

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Speaker 1: believe he really believes this. The museums throughout Washington, but

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Speaker 1: all over the country. Okay, I don't know what you

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00:49:04,395 --> 00:49:09,235
Speaker 1: mean that, Sonny, are essentially the last remaining segment of woke.

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Speaker 1: The Smithsonian is out of control. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you've been to the Smithsonian, or in fact to any

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Speaker 1: major museum in this country, but the last thing they

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Speaker 1: are is out of control or woke. The museums are

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Speaker 1: there to invoke the year eighteen ninety eight, supposedly the

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Speaker 1: year Trump enjoyed the most. The Smithsonian is out of control.

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Speaker 1: Where everything discussed is how horrible our country is, how

635
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Speaker 1: bad slavery was, and how unaccomplished the down trodden have been.

636
00:49:44,275 --> 00:49:48,155
Speaker 1: Nothing about success, nothing about brightness, nothing about the future.

637
00:49:50,555 --> 00:49:53,515
Speaker 1: It's a museum, af face, It's not about the future.

638
00:49:55,155 --> 00:49:57,315
Speaker 1: We are not going to allow this to happen. I

639
00:49:57,355 --> 00:50:02,635
Speaker 1: have instructed my attorneys to go through the museums and

640
00:50:02,715 --> 00:50:05,235
Speaker 1: start the exact same process that it has been done

641
00:50:05,235 --> 00:50:09,715
Speaker 1: with colleges and universities, where tremendous progress has been made. Yes,

642
00:50:09,795 --> 00:50:12,155
Speaker 1: we've cut back the number of Ivy League schools from

643
00:50:12,155 --> 00:50:16,315
Speaker 1: eight to six. This country cannot be woke, because woke

644
00:50:16,515 --> 00:50:19,035
Speaker 1: is broke. We have the hottest country in the world,

645
00:50:19,155 --> 00:50:21,395
Speaker 1: and we want people to talk about it, including in

646
00:50:21,475 --> 00:50:25,715
Speaker 1: our museums. He'll be asking people to shout in the

647
00:50:25,795 --> 00:50:30,915
Speaker 1: libraries next and to wear their underwear on the outside.

648
00:50:32,275 --> 00:50:36,875
Speaker 1: He's going to sue the museums over covering history because

649
00:50:36,915 --> 00:50:40,235
Speaker 1: there's not enough stuff about the future in the museums,

650
00:50:41,075 --> 00:50:49,795
Speaker 1: because museums are about the past. Yeah, he's not crazy,

651
00:50:49,995 --> 00:50:55,115
Speaker 1: new new new. Also, the Smithsonian mentioning slavery is woke,

652
00:50:56,315 --> 00:50:59,195
Speaker 1: and once again the line about the exact same process

653
00:50:59,195 --> 00:51:01,875
Speaker 1: that has been done with colleges and universities. Again, my

654
00:51:01,955 --> 00:51:05,555
Speaker 1: congratulations to Penn and Columbia and especially my ex friend

655
00:51:05,595 --> 00:51:08,995
Speaker 1: Claire Shipman. I really think Claire and the idiots who

656
00:51:09,075 --> 00:51:12,475
Speaker 1: run Pen ought to be selecting where they're going to

657
00:51:12,555 --> 00:51:17,555
Speaker 1: move to which country, not out of a fear of

658
00:51:17,595 --> 00:51:22,155
Speaker 1: an uncomfortable life full of public shame or danger under Trump,

659
00:51:22,355 --> 00:51:25,475
Speaker 1: but because of fear of an even more uncomfortable life

660
00:51:25,635 --> 00:51:30,435
Speaker 1: full of even more public shame after Trump. This is

661
00:51:30,675 --> 00:51:36,195
Speaker 1: your fault, Claire. You folded and the rest of them

662
00:51:36,635 --> 00:51:41,755
Speaker 1: folded behind you, and you gave this mealy mouthed, eighty

663
00:51:41,875 --> 00:51:47,235
Speaker 1: year old, stupid mother effort, the belief that he can

664
00:51:47,355 --> 00:51:51,995
Speaker 1: bully anybody and that everyone will appease him because you

665
00:51:52,235 --> 00:51:59,715
Speaker 1: appeased him. Congratulations, Wake up with that every morning. Also,

666
00:51:59,915 --> 00:52:06,075
Speaker 1: Trump is now pro slavery, and he's forever two day's

667
00:52:07,075 --> 00:52:32,595
Speaker 1: worst person. Or over the weekend, a colleague of mine

668
00:52:32,635 --> 00:52:36,195
Speaker 1: explained that his career is over. It's done. He's had

669
00:52:36,235 --> 00:52:38,955
Speaker 1: all the chances, there are no more jobs to get.

670
00:52:39,235 --> 00:52:42,555
Speaker 1: It's all over. The business is dying, his career is dying.

671
00:52:42,715 --> 00:52:45,715
Speaker 1: It's finished. He's going to look into something else, maybe

672
00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:49,955
Speaker 1: selling used cars. And I said, boy, oh boy, if

673
00:52:49,995 --> 00:52:53,235
Speaker 1: I had ten million dollars for every time I have

674
00:52:53,355 --> 00:52:56,675
Speaker 1: been told my career was over, I'd have a lot

675
00:52:56,795 --> 00:53:00,595
Speaker 1: less money than I actually do. To our number one

676
00:53:00,635 --> 00:53:03,235
Speaker 1: story on the countdown, and good evening, and welcome to

677
00:53:03,275 --> 00:53:06,995
Speaker 1: the end of our career years or more, particularly the

678
00:53:07,075 --> 00:53:10,755
Speaker 1: end of my career. No, I'm not retiring. I'm just

679
00:53:10,875 --> 00:53:14,115
Speaker 1: quoting myself from nineteen ninety three in the launch of

680
00:53:14,355 --> 00:53:19,395
Speaker 1: ESPN two and the subject of career ending announcements career

681
00:53:19,555 --> 00:53:23,315
Speaker 1: ending announcements. Recently a colleague of mine told me he

682
00:53:23,435 --> 00:53:26,195
Speaker 1: was done, and I had to go through all of

683
00:53:26,235 --> 00:53:30,395
Speaker 1: the times I have been told I was done. The

684
00:53:30,475 --> 00:53:34,315
Speaker 1: first one was in nineteen eighty four. This would be

685
00:53:34,355 --> 00:53:36,715
Speaker 1: in a previous century that I know. To a lot

686
00:53:36,755 --> 00:53:39,515
Speaker 1: of younger listeners, seems like it might as well be

687
00:53:39,635 --> 00:53:42,155
Speaker 1: eighteen eighty four. I have told before the story of

688
00:53:42,195 --> 00:53:45,955
Speaker 1: my limited career in Boston, for which I waited about

689
00:53:45,955 --> 00:53:48,795
Speaker 1: a year to start and lasted about half as long

690
00:53:49,315 --> 00:53:51,915
Speaker 1: because I went to work at the wrong place, in

691
00:53:51,955 --> 00:53:55,315
Speaker 1: the wrong city, outside in the wrong suburb of Boston,

692
00:53:55,595 --> 00:53:59,435
Speaker 1: with the wrong boss, where they said, don't make any jokes,

693
00:53:59,435 --> 00:54:01,075
Speaker 1: and I said, what did you hire me for? And

694
00:54:01,115 --> 00:54:03,915
Speaker 1: I left very very quickly, and then they tried to

695
00:54:03,955 --> 00:54:07,195
Speaker 1: fire me while I was filling out the terms of

696
00:54:07,195 --> 00:54:09,795
Speaker 1: my contract and staying there until they could get a replacement,

697
00:54:09,835 --> 00:54:12,235
Speaker 1: and the whole thing went up in flames. And the

698
00:54:12,275 --> 00:54:15,275
Speaker 1: result of this was that the news director of the

699
00:54:15,315 --> 00:54:18,835
Speaker 1: station Channel five in Boston, a man who actually answered

700
00:54:18,835 --> 00:54:22,915
Speaker 1: to the name Philip Scribner. Balboni went to the Boston

701
00:54:22,955 --> 00:54:26,595
Speaker 1: Globe TV Sportswriter when they had such things as TV Sportswriters,

702
00:54:27,035 --> 00:54:29,915
Speaker 1: and said, Oh, such a shame about Keith. He was

703
00:54:29,955 --> 00:54:34,355
Speaker 1: potentially such a major talent. I will not deny that

704
00:54:34,395 --> 00:54:37,435
Speaker 1: the use of that phrase did inspire me to some

705
00:54:37,515 --> 00:54:40,715
Speaker 1: degree to get cracking on my career. On the other hand,

706
00:54:40,715 --> 00:54:42,995
Speaker 1: I didn't work for nearly a year later, as I

707
00:54:43,035 --> 00:54:45,675
Speaker 1: was taking care of some family business back home and

708
00:54:45,755 --> 00:54:48,195
Speaker 1: sort of put everything about my own interest on the shelf.

709
00:54:48,835 --> 00:54:51,995
Speaker 1: Off the record, The general manager of the station I

710
00:54:52,035 --> 00:54:54,795
Speaker 1: had worked for, a man named James Coppersmith, said to

711
00:54:54,835 --> 00:54:58,075
Speaker 1: my agent something that made Balboni's statement look like a compliment.

712
00:54:58,555 --> 00:55:02,675
Speaker 1: Coppersmith said, he will never again work in our business.

713
00:55:03,355 --> 00:55:06,795
Speaker 1: That got me motivated. I believe I read recently that

714
00:55:06,795 --> 00:55:11,155
Speaker 1: Coppersmith died. In any event, I worked again in his business.

715
00:55:12,395 --> 00:55:15,155
Speaker 1: The punchline to this one, and they all have punchlines,

716
00:55:15,555 --> 00:55:18,955
Speaker 1: is that at some point around two thousand and seven,

717
00:55:19,475 --> 00:55:23,595
Speaker 1: I got an email at MSNBC and the return address

718
00:55:23,835 --> 00:55:27,755
Speaker 1: was Philip Scribner. Balboni, And there was a great email

719
00:55:27,755 --> 00:55:31,395
Speaker 1: from my old brief news director Boston Channel five in Boston,

720
00:55:31,675 --> 00:55:34,075
Speaker 1: who explained that I had been potentially such a major

721
00:55:34,115 --> 00:55:36,595
Speaker 1: talent and was quoted on the record as saying that.

722
00:55:37,155 --> 00:55:39,315
Speaker 1: And now he was saying how he watched Countdown every

723
00:55:39,395 --> 00:55:42,155
Speaker 1: night and was so proud to have been in there

724
00:55:42,195 --> 00:55:46,195
Speaker 1: at the start of my career. Not a word about

725
00:55:46,235 --> 00:55:49,835
Speaker 1: the other part about the oh, potentially such a major talent.

726
00:55:50,235 --> 00:55:53,875
Speaker 1: I guess he meant it in the past future, perfect

727
00:55:53,915 --> 00:55:57,555
Speaker 1: sense of the I don't know, my grammar education is

728
00:55:57,595 --> 00:56:00,235
Speaker 1: not what it should be. But he managed to wriggle

729
00:56:00,235 --> 00:56:02,155
Speaker 1: out of it. Never made any reference to it. And

730
00:56:02,315 --> 00:56:06,475
Speaker 1: the one thing about surviving repeated announcements that your career

731
00:56:06,555 --> 00:56:10,955
Speaker 1: is over is to never really go back and criticize

732
00:56:10,995 --> 00:56:13,555
Speaker 1: the people who were wrong about it, because they know

733
00:56:13,635 --> 00:56:17,835
Speaker 1: they were wrong and your success is the best answer. Nevertheless,

734
00:56:18,115 --> 00:56:20,475
Speaker 1: this all came up, and I thought i'd retell it

735
00:56:20,515 --> 00:56:22,875
Speaker 1: to you because I had to retell it to a

736
00:56:22,875 --> 00:56:26,035
Speaker 1: friend who recently told me his career was over. But

737
00:56:26,115 --> 00:56:28,195
Speaker 1: as I said, that was just the first time that

738
00:56:28,235 --> 00:56:31,515
Speaker 1: had ever happened in a fully professional setting. In two

739
00:56:31,595 --> 00:56:34,515
Speaker 1: thousand and one, and I was just reading this. I

740
00:56:34,555 --> 00:56:38,555
Speaker 1: guess about a year ago. I came across it somewhere online.

741
00:56:39,315 --> 00:56:42,395
Speaker 1: I was reading it for a punchline in and of itself.

742
00:56:42,515 --> 00:56:44,915
Speaker 1: It was a piece in Sports Illustrated by a man

743
00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:48,635
Speaker 1: named Chris Ballard, I believe, and Chris Ballard wrote an

744
00:56:48,715 --> 00:56:51,915
Speaker 1: article about my being fired by Fox Sports, which he

745
00:56:52,195 --> 00:56:56,395
Speaker 1: wrote as I had resigned from Fox Sports, and went

746
00:56:56,435 --> 00:56:58,755
Speaker 1: on to explain that I did not respond as Sports

747
00:56:58,795 --> 00:57:02,715
Speaker 1: Illustrated's request by emails and phones for comment. I never

748
00:57:02,755 --> 00:57:04,675
Speaker 1: received any of them because it never occurred to me

749
00:57:04,795 --> 00:57:07,915
Speaker 1: him that when they fired me and told everybody I

750
00:57:07,955 --> 00:57:11,395
Speaker 1: had resigned, they cut off my access to my email

751
00:57:11,435 --> 00:57:14,275
Speaker 1: and my phone, and they said to him when he

752
00:57:14,315 --> 00:57:17,235
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to me, oh, just send him an email,

753
00:57:17,275 --> 00:57:19,195
Speaker 1: he'll get back to you. And I didn't, and thus

754
00:57:19,235 --> 00:57:21,915
Speaker 1: he made me look like a jerk. In any event,

755
00:57:21,955 --> 00:57:24,995
Speaker 1: the article explained in two thousand and one that having

756
00:57:25,035 --> 00:57:30,075
Speaker 1: gone through ESPN and now ESPN's sort of mini me rival,

757
00:57:30,195 --> 00:57:33,595
Speaker 1: Fox Sports News, that there was nothing left for me

758
00:57:33,635 --> 00:57:36,355
Speaker 1: to do in the business. I had tried news briefly

759
00:57:36,355 --> 00:57:39,275
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety seven and nineteen ninety eight. Clearly my

760
00:57:39,395 --> 00:57:42,195
Speaker 1: career in both fields was over. I could not possibly

761
00:57:42,235 --> 00:57:46,035
Speaker 1: work again in television, in news or in sports. We're

762
00:57:46,035 --> 00:57:49,595
Speaker 1: now coming up next year if I get to it. Well,

763
00:57:49,635 --> 00:57:54,595
Speaker 1: it's been twenty three, twenty four year. Okay. I recently

764
00:57:55,035 --> 00:57:57,635
Speaker 1: saw this article and was inspired to look for it

765
00:57:57,675 --> 00:58:03,195
Speaker 1: online because Chris Ballard was retiring from Sports Illustrated and

766
00:58:03,355 --> 00:58:07,995
Speaker 1: I'm still One question that came up as I was

767
00:58:08,035 --> 00:58:11,315
Speaker 1: retelling the story of my various career ending moments that

768
00:58:11,395 --> 00:58:14,155
Speaker 1: did not in fact end my career from my friend

769
00:58:14,155 --> 00:58:18,115
Speaker 1: who's very worried about this, was how I managed not

770
00:58:18,315 --> 00:58:22,755
Speaker 1: to have my career And when Ballard's premise was not

771
00:58:22,915 --> 00:58:27,275
Speaker 1: completely wrong, he was certainly looking at what he thought

772
00:58:27,595 --> 00:58:30,675
Speaker 1: happened in television. He was not the TV sports writer

773
00:58:30,755 --> 00:58:32,835
Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated for very long. It was not a

774
00:58:32,955 --> 00:58:36,035
Speaker 1: natural subject for him. Most people who did this job

775
00:58:36,875 --> 00:58:39,755
Speaker 1: thought that it involved simply watching sports on TV and

776
00:58:39,755 --> 00:58:42,555
Speaker 1: then writing what they thought as opposed to understanding an

777
00:58:42,555 --> 00:58:46,635
Speaker 1: industry or its complexities, or its parameters or its sort

778
00:58:46,675 --> 00:58:51,635
Speaker 1: of weird voodoo customs. In any event, I said, well, look,

779
00:58:51,675 --> 00:58:54,715
Speaker 1: it's not very difficult to survive these things. You just

780
00:58:54,795 --> 00:58:58,355
Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that perhaps your next job after some

781
00:58:58,355 --> 00:59:02,115
Speaker 1: sort of cataclysmic departure from an ESPN or a Fox

782
00:59:02,155 --> 00:59:05,675
Speaker 1: Sports or an MSNBC or wherever else, perhaps it's not

783
00:59:05,715 --> 00:59:08,235
Speaker 1: going to pay you quite as much as the last

784
00:59:08,315 --> 00:59:12,275
Speaker 1: one did. And so when my agent and I began

785
00:59:12,315 --> 00:59:14,595
Speaker 1: to look around for more work in two thousand and one,

786
00:59:14,635 --> 00:59:16,955
Speaker 1: and I might add that after Fox fired me, they

787
00:59:17,035 --> 00:59:18,635
Speaker 1: had to pay me for another eight months at one

788
00:59:18,715 --> 00:59:21,915
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars a year. And if you can't survive

789
00:59:22,595 --> 00:59:25,275
Speaker 1: on a job that requires you to do nothing for

790
00:59:25,355 --> 00:59:28,235
Speaker 1: eight months and pays you eight hundred thousand dollars that

791
00:59:28,275 --> 00:59:31,355
Speaker 1: you can salt away. If you can't survive on that

792
00:59:31,475 --> 00:59:34,315
Speaker 1: and enjoy your life while you're doing it, you're doing

793
00:59:34,395 --> 00:59:38,955
Speaker 1: things wrong. In any event, what I said was just

794
00:59:39,115 --> 00:59:41,835
Speaker 1: the next job. Just take a job that allows you

795
00:59:41,955 --> 00:59:43,755
Speaker 1: to do what you can do and do it well,

796
00:59:44,235 --> 00:59:47,435
Speaker 1: and you will succeed in it. You have talent a

797
00:59:47,475 --> 00:59:50,515
Speaker 1: lot of other people don't. You will be low cost,

798
00:59:50,595 --> 00:59:52,875
Speaker 1: so they're much more likely to overlook anything that happened

799
00:59:52,915 --> 00:59:56,475
Speaker 1: in the past, and most importantly, if it is successful,

800
00:59:56,515 --> 00:59:59,395
Speaker 1: you can then hold them up on the second contract negotiation.

801
00:59:59,875 --> 01:00:03,075
Speaker 1: So I went first to CNN after the Fox Sports

802
01:00:03,075 --> 01:00:06,235
Speaker 1: experience started to work for them for not a lot

803
01:00:06,275 --> 01:00:10,315
Speaker 1: of money, and although they did not ultimately exercise this,

804
01:00:10,395 --> 01:00:12,275
Speaker 1: they signed me to a contract to do the eight

805
01:00:12,315 --> 01:00:15,595
Speaker 1: pm show on CNN for a certain large amount of money,

806
01:00:15,595 --> 01:00:17,955
Speaker 1: and there were two finalists they wanted us lined up

807
01:00:17,955 --> 01:00:20,475
Speaker 1: in advance, and they made the clever decision to choose

808
01:00:20,555 --> 01:00:25,075
Speaker 1: Connie Chung instead of me. But they had sort of

809
01:00:25,315 --> 01:00:28,675
Speaker 1: reauthorized me. They had re established me by it was

810
01:00:28,715 --> 01:00:30,995
Speaker 1: well known within the industry that I was the runner

811
01:00:31,075 --> 01:00:33,635
Speaker 1: up for the job at eight o'clock and within six

812
01:00:33,675 --> 01:00:36,555
Speaker 1: months of them saying, nah, we think Connie's the right

813
01:00:36,555 --> 01:00:39,235
Speaker 1: person to lead us into the future here, within six

814
01:00:39,275 --> 01:00:41,715
Speaker 1: months of that, I was doing the eight o'clock show

815
01:00:41,755 --> 01:00:45,715
Speaker 1: on MSNBC for in fact, twice what the agreement had

816
01:00:45,755 --> 01:00:48,355
Speaker 1: been at CNN, And within three years they'd signed me

817
01:00:48,395 --> 01:00:50,355
Speaker 1: to a new deal that was worth three times that,

818
01:00:50,635 --> 01:00:52,835
Speaker 1: more than I had ever made in my life. So

819
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:55,435
Speaker 1: the key thing to it is to be flexible financially.

820
01:00:55,995 --> 01:00:58,395
Speaker 1: You socked them for the money while you're successful, and

821
01:00:58,435 --> 01:01:01,915
Speaker 1: then by the way, once again, if you can't succeed

822
01:01:02,035 --> 01:01:05,155
Speaker 1: in the business, if you can't succeed in life, when

823
01:01:05,235 --> 01:01:10,835
Speaker 1: you have received in one year, anything north of three

824
01:01:10,875 --> 01:01:14,035
Speaker 1: million dollars in one year. Four million dollars. Maybe I

825
01:01:14,035 --> 01:01:16,875
Speaker 1: forget what the actual financial floor is. But if you've

826
01:01:16,915 --> 01:01:19,835
Speaker 1: made that much money in one year and can't live

827
01:01:20,155 --> 01:01:25,155
Speaker 1: basically off that and simply interest from the bank that

828
01:01:25,155 --> 01:01:29,035
Speaker 1: that will provide you. If you can't do that, you

829
01:01:29,155 --> 01:01:32,995
Speaker 1: must have some sort of addiction to drugs, because guess what,

830
01:01:33,235 --> 01:01:36,395
Speaker 1: you can go a long way still. I mean, yeah,

831
01:01:36,515 --> 01:01:39,515
Speaker 1: it's true, four million dollars is what it used to be,

832
01:01:39,595 --> 01:01:42,395
Speaker 1: but guess what it is now. It's still really good.

833
01:01:43,515 --> 01:01:45,795
Speaker 1: I never failed to see one of these articles in

834
01:01:45,835 --> 01:01:48,955
Speaker 1: which somebody who's lost a job paying in you know,

835
01:01:49,035 --> 01:01:52,115
Speaker 1: the tens of millions of dollars, and it's I always finished. Now.

836
01:01:52,155 --> 01:01:55,835
Speaker 1: It's like, yes, he's finished. Now he can sit on

837
01:01:55,915 --> 01:01:59,075
Speaker 1: a beach, he can hire somebody to do his exercise

838
01:01:59,235 --> 01:02:01,755
Speaker 1: for him. He can sit on a beach and and

839
01:02:02,635 --> 01:02:05,155
Speaker 1: eat the money, and it won't make it difference. He

840
01:02:05,195 --> 01:02:08,315
Speaker 1: doesn't have to do it again in any event. So

841
01:02:08,555 --> 01:02:12,035
Speaker 1: the pattern here that I have described already has continued

842
01:02:12,075 --> 01:02:15,035
Speaker 1: in subsequent years, even after I came back from the dead,

843
01:02:15,075 --> 01:02:17,875
Speaker 1: after my experience in Boston, where I was dubbed the

844
01:02:17,995 --> 01:02:21,635
Speaker 1: Dark prints of TV Sports and was winning awards in

845
01:02:21,715 --> 01:02:25,475
Speaker 1: Los Angeles the next year. Although, to be fair, after

846
01:02:25,515 --> 01:02:27,755
Speaker 1: that quote in nineteen eighty four about how I was

847
01:02:27,795 --> 01:02:30,795
Speaker 1: potentially a great talent, I did get down to about

848
01:02:30,835 --> 01:02:34,035
Speaker 1: my last one hundred dollars in the bank. And actually

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Speaker 1: I actually had to borrow money from my dear sister

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Speaker 1: to get on the bus to take me to the

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Speaker 1: airport in New York so I could take the flight

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Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to start my job there. That's how

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Speaker 1: close I cut it. Another week and I would have

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Speaker 1: been borrowing money for food. That's where I was. But

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Speaker 1: you have to be willing to walk that tight rope

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Speaker 1: to pull this off in any event. So that was

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Speaker 1: Boston became the Los Angeles job. In the Los Angeles job,

858
01:03:01,755 --> 01:03:03,835
Speaker 1: when they eliminated that, it's like, well, his career is

859
01:03:03,835 --> 01:03:08,915
Speaker 1: over now. Job was ESPN. ESPN led to NBC. When

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Speaker 1: that didn't work out and I pushed to get out

861
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Speaker 1: of there. They sold me to Fox for a million

862
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Speaker 1: dollars and they paid me a lot of money and

863
01:03:14,755 --> 01:03:16,515
Speaker 1: continued to pay me a lot of money even after

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Speaker 1: they stopped putting me on TV. And that led to

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Speaker 1: a doldrum period where I got to read about the

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Speaker 1: guy who's now retired from Sports Illustrated explaining what network

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Speaker 1: will sign him now, what team will sign him now?

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Speaker 1: Whither Keith? This is two thousand and one. I was

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Speaker 1: forty two years old. It's like I get nostalgic reading that, going, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you were forty two years old. They fired you at

871
01:03:38,875 --> 01:03:41,635
Speaker 1: that point people thought your career was over. Yeah, but

872
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Speaker 1: I was forty two. My hair was dark most places

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Speaker 1: in any event, So that led into the MSNBC job,

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Speaker 1: and the MSNBC job, as sort of messy as that ended,

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Speaker 1: the second one, anyway, led to the Current TV job,

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Speaker 1: and as disastrous as that was, since it was kind

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Speaker 1: of a confidence trick, there was a day where between

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Speaker 1: the money I got for leaving NBC and the money

879
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Speaker 1: I got for joining Current TV, I made sixty eight

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Speaker 1: million dollars in one day. I had to sew a

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Speaker 1: lot of people afterwards to get all of it, but

882
01:04:14,355 --> 01:04:17,675
Speaker 1: I got just about all of it. In any event,

883
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Speaker 1: I'm now boasting back to the point of this whole story.

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01:04:21,355 --> 01:04:23,315
Speaker 1: An old friend of mine came in when I was

885
01:04:23,355 --> 01:04:26,955
Speaker 1: doing the videos for GQ The Closer and The Resistance

886
01:04:26,955 --> 01:04:30,075
Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, in twenty seventeen, came in to watch

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Speaker 1: me do this and started to ask, very very graciously

888
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Speaker 1: and very gently about, well, isn't this something of a

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01:04:36,515 --> 01:04:40,435
Speaker 1: come down for you from the MSNBC experience where you

890
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Speaker 1: had a staff? And I said, well, first off, the

891
01:04:43,315 --> 01:04:48,275
Speaker 1: MSNBC experience consisted of two cameramen and a floor director

892
01:04:49,235 --> 01:04:53,235
Speaker 1: and me and sometimes a guest in a studio. The staff,

893
01:04:53,635 --> 01:04:57,395
Speaker 1: whereas they were all certainly dedicated to the project, consisted

894
01:04:57,435 --> 01:05:00,795
Speaker 1: of basically a core of six or seven people. It

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Speaker 1: never really felt like a big deal. I know it

896
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Speaker 1: had more influence than then I was ever led to understand.

897
01:05:07,075 --> 01:05:10,995
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like, oh, well, you know those movies

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Speaker 1: that you did with Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor and

899
01:05:13,675 --> 01:05:16,715
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. Now you're just sitting at home with a camera.

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01:05:17,755 --> 01:05:20,475
Speaker 1: It didn't have that feel in the slightest. And I

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01:05:20,515 --> 01:05:23,155
Speaker 1: said to him, did you see the thing from CBS

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01:05:23,195 --> 01:05:24,875
Speaker 1: News the other day? And he went, what thing from

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01:05:24,915 --> 01:05:27,475
Speaker 1: CBS News? I said, don't you have the Google at

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Speaker 1: the New York Times? And he said yes. I said, Google,

905
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Speaker 1: Social Flow, Facebook, and he did on his phone and

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01:05:35,635 --> 01:05:38,395
Speaker 1: he read this political pundit Keith Alderman found a way

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01:05:38,435 --> 01:05:41,835
Speaker 1: to channel concerns about mister Trump. This is July twenty seventeen,

908
01:05:42,035 --> 01:05:44,715
Speaker 1: started hosting a series of political commentary and special interviews

909
01:05:44,715 --> 01:05:48,275
Speaker 1: titled The Resistance with Keith Olderman, with the first episode

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Speaker 1: featured on GQ on November sixteenth, twenty sixteen, reaching fifty

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01:05:53,315 --> 01:05:58,195
Speaker 1: four million people, equivalent to one in six Americans. And

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01:05:58,235 --> 01:06:01,795
Speaker 1: I said, look, I understand that if you measure things

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01:06:01,835 --> 01:06:06,035
Speaker 1: solely by the idea that I'm on your TV every night, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that the doing a video and coming into a studio

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01:06:08,835 --> 01:06:11,155
Speaker 1: that isn't really designed for TV and there's an echo

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01:06:11,195 --> 01:06:13,355
Speaker 1: in it might seem like the end of my career.

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Speaker 1: Fifty four million people saw that video and interacted with

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Speaker 1: it in some kind. They either forwarded it, or watched it,

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01:06:21,315 --> 01:06:24,195
Speaker 1: or put a comment on it, or sometimes all three.

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01:06:24,275 --> 01:06:29,115
Speaker 1: That was, in fact the number one political video or

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01:06:29,195 --> 01:06:32,635
Speaker 1: story on Facebook in the period of time after Donald

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01:06:32,675 --> 01:06:36,195
Speaker 1: Trump's election. I think that's something of a success. And

923
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Speaker 1: I said, by this point, I don't need the damn money.

924
01:06:38,635 --> 01:06:41,275
Speaker 1: The money I'm making from doing this is going to

925
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Speaker 1: dog charities. Okay, So we could go on at length

926
01:06:45,315 --> 01:06:48,235
Speaker 1: about other small versions of that. I once went back

927
01:06:48,275 --> 01:06:50,075
Speaker 1: and forth with this guy who now is one of

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Speaker 1: the people at Puck News, who insisted that I had

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Speaker 1: not been negotiating with the then chairman of NBC, Jeff Schell,

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Speaker 1: about returning to MSNBC in twenty nineteen, twenty and twenty one,

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Speaker 1: because NBC News had insisted it wasn't true. And I said,

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Speaker 1: who told you that? And they said, a spokesman. And

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Speaker 1: I said to this guy, his name was Dylan Byers,

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01:07:11,275 --> 01:07:13,555
Speaker 1: I said, well, who was the spokesman. Well, it's just

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01:07:13,795 --> 01:07:15,595
Speaker 1: supposed to be a spokesman, I said, so. They wouldn't

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Speaker 1: even put their own name on it, not even a

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01:07:18,035 --> 01:07:21,875
Speaker 1: made up name Jim Jones, NBC News spokesman, which would

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Speaker 1: have been, by the way, an appropriate name for a

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Speaker 1: series of NBC News spokespeople. They didn't even do that.

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Speaker 1: And he said no, they were insistent, there's never been

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Speaker 1: any contact between you and Jeff Shell. And I went

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Speaker 1: hang on, and I called up from my phone twenty

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Speaker 1: three emails and texts from Jeff Shell. I photo shot

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Speaker 1: at them, I screen shotted them and gave him to

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Speaker 1: the guy. And I don't think this guy Buyers has

946
01:07:45,275 --> 01:07:50,715
Speaker 1: recovered since his worldview was totally destroyed. He was writing

947
01:07:50,715 --> 01:07:53,555
Speaker 1: a story about how I had deteriorated to the point

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Speaker 1: where I was hallucinating about being in contact with Jeff

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Speaker 1: Shell from NBC News or from NBC about returning to

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Speaker 1: NBC News and MSNBC, when we were deep into negotiations

951
01:08:04,395 --> 01:08:07,835
Speaker 1: about and we're delayed only by the pandemic. And as

952
01:08:07,875 --> 01:08:11,195
Speaker 1: I pointed out here before, the vetos of certain people

953
01:08:11,275 --> 01:08:13,875
Speaker 1: working on the air at MSNBC, most of whose careers

954
01:08:13,915 --> 01:08:16,835
Speaker 1: I started. But that's another story which I've already discussed.

955
01:08:17,555 --> 01:08:21,955
Speaker 1: His whole worldview was shattered by this because should do

956
01:08:22,035 --> 01:08:26,635
Speaker 1: be he could not comprehend that an NBC News spokesperson

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01:08:26,795 --> 01:08:29,755
Speaker 1: would lie to him, And he really said this. He said,

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01:08:29,795 --> 01:08:32,115
Speaker 1: I don't understand why would they lie to me? And

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01:08:32,155 --> 01:08:34,475
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to understand that the idea

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01:08:34,515 --> 01:08:36,195
Speaker 1: that they would not put their own name on this

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01:08:36,275 --> 01:08:38,875
Speaker 1: statement might have suggested to you that they were lying

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01:08:38,955 --> 01:08:41,635
Speaker 1: to you. Oh, I'll keep that in mind. Well he

963
01:08:41,675 --> 01:08:43,755
Speaker 1: didn't keep that in mind. But that's again another story

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01:08:43,755 --> 01:08:45,835
Speaker 1: about Dylan Byers, and we'll get to him someday some

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01:08:46,155 --> 01:08:51,235
Speaker 1: day two somewhere soon. Somebody asked towards the end of

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01:08:51,315 --> 01:08:55,035
Speaker 1: July twenty twenty four about my recent comeback and how

967
01:08:55,075 --> 01:08:57,915
Speaker 1: I had just gotten back into political commentary now with

968
01:08:57,955 --> 01:09:02,275
Speaker 1: the new podcast, and I said, it's two years old.

969
01:09:02,395 --> 01:09:07,835
Speaker 1: On August first, it was approaching five hundred episodes. We're

970
01:09:07,875 --> 01:09:12,275
Speaker 1: doing like a million listens a week, a million audience

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01:09:12,795 --> 01:09:18,035
Speaker 1: participants a week. I mean, it's challenging certain hours on

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Speaker 1: CNN for total audience. Good God, what do you mean

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01:09:21,595 --> 01:09:25,475
Speaker 1: recent comeback? But this is, as I said, if I

974
01:09:25,515 --> 01:09:28,115
Speaker 1: had ten million dollars for every time somebody told me

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01:09:28,395 --> 01:09:34,515
Speaker 1: my career was over, A career is sort of over

976
01:09:34,635 --> 01:09:38,555
Speaker 1: because I'm now of advanced years and now I've done

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01:09:38,555 --> 01:09:43,235
Speaker 1: something that I really didn't understand until the year twenty eleven,

978
01:09:43,955 --> 01:09:47,835
Speaker 1: until I left MSNBC to go to Current TV, and

979
01:09:47,875 --> 01:09:51,115
Speaker 1: there was built into this transfer a three month period

980
01:09:51,155 --> 01:09:54,155
Speaker 1: of time where I could not work anywhere in television.

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01:09:55,195 --> 01:09:58,155
Speaker 1: I had not had such a period of time except

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Speaker 1: for the aforementioned period when I was taking care of

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Speaker 1: family members who were in trouble in nineteen eighty five

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Speaker 1: after the Boston experience, I hadn't had such a length

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01:10:06,595 --> 01:10:09,635
Speaker 1: at time without being on the air somewhere, And in fact,

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01:10:09,755 --> 01:10:11,755
Speaker 1: during that period in nineteen eighty five, I did a

987
01:10:11,755 --> 01:10:14,195
Speaker 1: lot of freelance work just to you know, get the

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01:10:14,195 --> 01:10:16,715
Speaker 1: cash that I didn't have to borrow from my sister,

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01:10:16,755 --> 01:10:20,275
Speaker 1: who was, by the way, seventeen years old at the time. Yeah, Jen,

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01:10:20,475 --> 01:10:24,595
Speaker 1: have you got a twenty Yeah? Thanks, I need to

991
01:10:24,595 --> 01:10:28,155
Speaker 1: go buy a cigar. In any event, I believe we

992
01:10:28,195 --> 01:10:31,555
Speaker 1: had that conversation. In any event, the point of this was,

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01:10:31,755 --> 01:10:34,675
Speaker 1: until twenty eleven, I'd really not had a day or

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01:10:34,715 --> 01:10:38,555
Speaker 1: at least a week without deadlines. Media deadlines. You have

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01:10:38,635 --> 01:10:40,555
Speaker 1: to have this written by eight o'clock because the show

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01:10:40,595 --> 01:10:43,115
Speaker 1: is starting with or without you. I hadn't had a

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01:10:43,275 --> 01:10:46,155
Speaker 1: day or a week without those since I was sixteen

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01:10:46,235 --> 01:10:49,435
Speaker 1: years old. I was to my shock. I found I

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01:10:49,595 --> 01:10:52,635
Speaker 1: really enjoyed not having those deadlines. And when we went

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01:10:52,675 --> 01:10:54,715
Speaker 1: back on the air in Current TV in June of

1001
01:10:54,715 --> 01:10:59,235
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, I was kind of disappointed, not because the

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Speaker 1: studio was actually not a studio but more like a

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Speaker 1: you know, a portal to hell. Not that part of it,

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01:11:05,595 --> 01:11:08,835
Speaker 1: which was disappointing, but not as much as I really enjoyed,

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Speaker 1: you know, not shaving every weekday and not having to write,

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01:11:14,275 --> 01:11:17,515
Speaker 1: you know, ten thousand words a day and not having

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Speaker 1: to read the twelve seconds of script inside the twelve

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Speaker 1: second window before the sound hit, and just the number

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Speaker 1: of deadlines I suddenly didn't have. So since twenty eleven,

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Speaker 1: I decided to cut back to four days work a week,

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01:11:31,195 --> 01:11:37,195
Speaker 1: generally speaking, that's my concession to my mid sixties. And

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Speaker 1: as I was preparing this to tell you this story

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01:11:40,795 --> 01:11:43,275
Speaker 1: in light of the experience I had with my friend

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Speaker 1: who thought his career was over, and I was reciting this,

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01:11:45,835 --> 01:11:48,515
Speaker 1: I realized that I had left out in telling him

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Speaker 1: the story, and I have deliberately left it out of

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Speaker 1: the chronological order of these tales of the actual first

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01:11:54,955 --> 01:11:57,155
Speaker 1: time I was told my career was over. I had

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01:11:57,155 --> 01:12:01,755
Speaker 1: forgotten completely about the day that the sports director what

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Speaker 1: was then a prominent radio station told me that not

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Speaker 1: only would he and the news director there not hire me,

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Speaker 1: even though I had been told I was a candidate

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Speaker 1: for a sports job there, but he told me that

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Speaker 1: I would never get a job in radio or television

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Speaker 1: of any prominence because of my attitude. No one will

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Speaker 1: ever hire you. His name was Ernie Jackson, and I

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01:12:26,315 --> 01:12:29,835
Speaker 1: believe he left the town we were in to get

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Speaker 1: a job selling airtime on a radio station in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: and after that, I don't know what the hell happened

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Speaker 1: to him. The news director was a guy named Bob Lynch,

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Speaker 1: and he shortly thereafter moved to a job that I

1032
01:12:41,195 --> 01:12:45,275
Speaker 1: think he spent his entire professional career at traffic reporter

1033
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Speaker 1: in a plane above the beautiful city of Rochester, New York.

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Speaker 1: The date that mister Jackson on mister Lynch's behalf told

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Speaker 1: me that my career was over, the first time I

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Speaker 1: was told you will never again work in this business,

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Speaker 1: the first good evening and welcome to the end of

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Speaker 1: my career was October nineteen seventy seven. I've done all

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Speaker 1: the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Most of our Countdown music was arranged, produced, and performed

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Speaker 1: by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanel, our musical directors

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Speaker 1: of Countdown. It was produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray

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Speaker 1: Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis

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Speaker 1: announcer today was my friend Larry David. Everything else was,

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Speaker 1: as always my fault. Do we decimals? It's countdown for today,

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Speaker 1: Day two hundred and fourteen of America held hostage again

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Speaker 1: by a pro slavery guy, just forty eight days until

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Speaker 1: the scheduled end of his lane duck and lame brained

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Speaker 1: term unless he is removed sooner by MAGA and Jeffrey

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Speaker 1: Epstein or the actuarial tables. Always be suspicious of a

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Speaker 1: guy who starts asking whether or not he's going to

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Speaker 1: get into heaven. I'm Keith Oldraman. Good Morning, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: good night, and good luck. Countdown with Keith Olreman is

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