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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: a break? Yes? Are you ready for a break? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: Ready for a break? Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, July twenty second, twenty twenty one, Season seventeen,

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Speaker 1: episode number one. Welcome to the latest edition of The Break.

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Speaker 1: We are here in Oxnard, California, is day one of

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Speaker 1: training camp two thousand twenty one, presented by American Airlines.

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Speaker 1: I got Nick, I got Dave with me. Amber's out

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Speaker 1: for a little while. I'm taking care of some business,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna hold it down. And I'm just happy

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Speaker 1: to be back around football on a day to day basis,

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Speaker 1: with no mask and just enjoying this beautiful weather. What

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Speaker 1: about you, guys, I am standing grindin premiere to year.

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Speaker 1: You got some new gear here. He got like a

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Speaker 1: it's like a Colin Cowherd situation. Well, you know that

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Speaker 1: kind of happens that, like the more experienced you get

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Speaker 1: he's like, it's got to go out for episode one

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Speaker 1: of next year. You can't like laid it out the

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Speaker 1: I gotta give all credit our producer Chris Beam. He

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Speaker 1: hooked me up. He surprised me with this beautiful microphone

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Speaker 1: Looks great, happy to be here, a thrilled football It's

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Speaker 1: it's actually ball season. It's it's interesting because you said

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Speaker 1: news for September. Yeah. One of the interesting things. I

428
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Speaker 1: don't know if you guys saw it, I assume you did.

429
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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin had some comments last week I think it was,

430
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Speaker 1: or maybe even earlier this week, where he was talking

431
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Speaker 1: about his idea of or his impression of players that

432
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Speaker 1: decide not to get vaccinated. His argument was he doesn't

433
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Speaker 1: think they're completely committed to winning. And Jerry was asked

434
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Speaker 1: about this yesterday, and Jerry's retort really was around the

435
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,920
Speaker 1: idea that, yeah, he says he thought he was spite

436
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,159
Speaker 1: on spot on, He thought it was influential, But he

437
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Speaker 1: also believes that the point of what Michael was saying

438
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,679
Speaker 1: is that players expect one another to do things that

439
00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 1: are above and beyond for the purposes of the team.

440
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: And this is one of those things that gets beyond

441
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Speaker 1: whatever your selfish desire might be. And I don't want

442
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 1: to say it in the wrong way when I say selfish,

443
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: I'm not meaning that a negative terms. I'm just saying

444
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Speaker 1: whatever your desire is as a person, as an individual

445
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 1: has to be in a lot of instances for the

446
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: purposes of football in the NFL, and how teammates look

447
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: at one another has to sometimes we put to the

448
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 1: side and you have to do what's good for the team.

449
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,480
Speaker 1: And as you were saying, this has some benefits for

450
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Speaker 1: the team if more people are vaccinated. My question for

451
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Speaker 1: you guys is do you agree with michael stance on this?

452
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 1: I do absolutely, which, again, like you know. I'm sorry

453
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,840
Speaker 1: if it offends people that are listening, Like I don't.

454
00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 1: I don't see this as a political issue. I just

455
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,800
Speaker 1: think it's smart and easy and the American healthcare system

456
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: has put like crazy resources into making this thing available,

457
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:51,440
Speaker 1: and like buy and large, there's going to be risk

458
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,159
Speaker 1: for all of this stuff. There always has been, by

459
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Speaker 1: the way, for like every vaccine. But it's minuscule and

460
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Speaker 1: it does wonders to I've had it since March and

461
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 1: I've been out living my life a lot more than

462
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Speaker 1: I have been the last year. No complaints so far. Um,

463
00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: you have a little extra growth over there. Yeah, yeah,

464
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,439
Speaker 1: I have an extra I have an extra appendage. Yeah. Um,

465
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see it as a debate. And

466
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Speaker 1: that's I mean, if you do, I hope, Okay, I

467
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 1: got nothing for you. I don't know, but it's a

468
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 1: minor thing that you can do to make your life

469
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: easier and the team's life better and you know, give

470
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Speaker 1: your team a better chance. I went the fuller context

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Speaker 1: of Michael's quote. I thought it was interesting too, because he's, uh,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, he said, this could be a healthy guy

473
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Speaker 1: missing two games because of this, and in this league

474
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: that could be it for you, like and if the

475
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Speaker 1: right person misses two weeks, that's it. Your ass is

476
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Speaker 1: out and the Lord knows that's true, and that would

477
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Speaker 1: be that would suck for the Cowboys or for anybody

478
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Speaker 1: else if you know you had an easy path to

479
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Speaker 1: making this all easier and didn't do it. So Nick,

480
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Speaker 1: I mean, I love Michael Irving. I mean he's passionate

481
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Speaker 1: about it, but I mean, I don't know. It's hard

482
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 1: to speak for everybody in this situation. I understand that

483
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 1: part right there. I do get it, but you gotta remember,

484
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 1: like everybody here knows three to four or five maybe

485
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: more people that haven't taken it. We all have a few.

486
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Speaker 1: When you think about that, what are the reasons why

487
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: they're not taking it? They're they're all over the map.

488
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,440
Speaker 1: There's different reasons. So it is hard to say, well, hey,

489
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Speaker 1: you know, why aren't you doing this? You should be

490
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: doing it all for the betterment of the team. In

491
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 1: some cases, you could say, well, I'm willing to do

492
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Speaker 1: all of these things. I have to test every day,

493
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Speaker 1: I wear a mask, I can't sit with my team,

494
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 1: I can't do certain things, So you're saying I'm not

495
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Speaker 1: all in and I'm sticking to my guns on what

496
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Speaker 1: I believe in. Maybe you could argue that I'm actually

497
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Speaker 1: more all in than any of them because I'm doing

498
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Speaker 1: all this despite that, because because I you know, they

499
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Speaker 1: believe in the reason why they're not taking the vaccine

500
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Speaker 1: or whatever, they're still willing to do all of the

501
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Speaker 1: other things. So but that's why this is so tricky,

502
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,400
Speaker 1: because that person could be doing everything right and their

503
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: wife and their kids to come home from school and

504
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: then they have it and next thing you know, you're

505
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 1: out two games. Yeah, so it's just hard to say

506
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 1: what not taking the vaccine is going, how it's going

507
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: to affect the team. I think it's very general for

508
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Michael to say that, and you know, it's I agree that,

509
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: you know, you should be kind of be all in.

510
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: We have to do things for their work. Some people

511
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Speaker 1: do it, some people don't, and you know, it comes

512
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Speaker 1: down to the different reasons. So it's very hard to

513
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Speaker 1: kind of say you're right you're wrong, because it's certainly

514
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: not a black and white issue, I guess, and good

515
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: reasons for not getting it do exist, and I'm willing

516
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Speaker 1: to listen to those, but buy and liar and not

517
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,719
Speaker 1: to go off on a tangent, but there's just so

518
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: much bad faith discourse around this thing at this point

519
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: in time, it gets frustrating. Yeah, I mean it is,

520
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: and not again, I don't want us to get too political,

521
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: but it's gone from being a medical question in some

522
00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: people's minds to being more of a political question, and

523
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,760
Speaker 1: so anytime that happens, then you're going to have just

524
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 1: splits because people ideologically and from a political standpoint are

525
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: split right and probably more now in our country than

526
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,360
Speaker 1: ever before. So that's a problem with all of this

527
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: is that it has become a political issue instead of

528
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: rather just a medical issue, where we may have had

529
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,680
Speaker 1: a lot less division on this if it was just

530
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 1: a medical question. And like you said, Nick, there's some

531
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Speaker 1: people that have some very legitimate medical concerns that preclude

532
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: them from wanting to be vaccinated. And some of those

533
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: I've heard from people, and I say, oh, yeah, kind

534
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: of get that. I kind of understand that. Yeah, let's

535
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: move on, though, I do want to talk about we

536
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 1: had mentioned a little earlier, Nikki. I think Dave might

537
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,960
Speaker 1: have thrown something out there talking about the championship level

538
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Getting back to that championship level of the nineties,

539
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: and Jarry was asking about that yesterday, and it actually

540
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:53,919
Speaker 1: it spun off into a thought that that Nick, I

541
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Speaker 1: think you were making or Dave you were making next. Okay,

542
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Speaker 1: So basically what happened was Jarry's asked about and you

543
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: get back to the nineties days, and the first thing

544
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned was, well, first thing, can you give me

545
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: another Charles Haley? And then he went on and he said, okay,

546
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: and you know that Dion Sanders, I'll take another one

547
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: to him too. And by the way, absolutely great players,

548
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame players, some of the best to do

549
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 1: it at their positions. For what they did, I think

550
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: you'd be I think it's a fair statement to say

551
00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: Charles Haley is one of the best pass rushers in

552
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 1: the history of the NFL. And I think it's fair

553
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: to say Deon Sanders may be the very best cornerback

554
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. Coach prime, careful, coach

555
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240
Speaker 1: prime here. I can't call him Deon anymore in particular

556
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 1: about that. That's what I've heard. Well, he can come

557
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: and talk to me about that if he has a

558
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: problem with it. But anyway, those two things I get

559
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: all that. But my question for you is do you

560
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys have done all that they can do

561
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 1: in order to get that caliber of player, because those

562
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 1: are both free agent signings. Have they done all they can? Know?

563
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: They haven't at all. CJ good one, I think was

564
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 1: their best free agent signing this year. No offense to him, crazy,

565
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 1: he takes a good specialties player exactly he is. He's like, no,

566
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I'm very special he is. But to like try to

567
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 1: even jokingly, but like it's a great you know, but

568
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: the huge step and that was a great signing. It

569
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: was that was good. That was their best one. That

570
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 1: that's what they do. They have taken a different approach

571
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: to this. They they were they were going to get

572
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: those guys, uh, you know, Don and Charles Haley. And

573
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: now last year they signed a bunch of names. That's

574
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 1: all they were were names former first rounders, Don Tari

575
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: Poe ha ha. I mean, you know we knew who

576
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: was laughing at the end of all that. And that's

577
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: that's the fans that don't like the Cowboys and Mills

578
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: are from really bad. But they're not making splashes. They

579
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,080
Speaker 1: don't do that in free agency. They haven't gone to

580
00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: do that. They haven't gone all in to do that

581
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,719
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. So there's no way you're going to

582
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: get a d on Charles Haley those type of guys

583
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: in free agency, because that's not their approach. That is,

584
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: it's ironic with and I'm young, I'm sorry, Like they

585
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: Charles Haley was a trade, right, so they took a

586
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,560
Speaker 1: big swing to get Charles. And then how many times

587
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: have we heard the story Stephen Jones was so incensed

588
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: at what Jerry wanted to pay Dion to get him

589
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 1: here that they like thought he pushed him up against that,

590
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: like that's it's like, are you crazy? It turned out?

591
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 1: It turned out, it turned out great. But I'm what,

592
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: when have the Cowboys done something like that. I've been here.

593
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: This is year nine, by the way, I still think

594
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: of myself as the new guy, and it's just not

595
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: true anymore, and they haven't done anything like that in

596
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: the whole time I've been here. But in all fairness,

597
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: I think they would probably say we took shots they

598
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 1: didn't work out there, took shots at Galliwae, they took

599
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: shots at Roy Williams, who they thought were great players.

600
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: It didn't work out. Those things happened like twenty years ago.

601
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I get that I'm saying, but the ones that Greg

602
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: Hardy was close. But listen to point. My point is

603
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: that doing those things back back to back in the

604
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: early two thousands, late nineties, maybe that made them say,

605
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can keep doing this right,

606
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: we can't. Maybe it's not the same day as us

607
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: being able to get it Charles Haley, us being able

608
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: to get a Dion Sanders. We just like, that's not

609
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: working for us. We got to do something a little

610
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: steadier than doing that and then screwing ourselves for years

611
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: after that because it doesn't work out right but right.

612
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's what I'm saying though, that you

613
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: can't You can't say every morning that I hope I

614
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: win the lottery and you don't ever play. That's what happens.

615
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: People say, God, if I win the lottery one day,

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: it's like, have you ever bought a scratch off ticket?

617
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: Like no, not really, so you're not gonna win. They

618
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: don't knock on your door. It's not publisher's clearinghouse. And

619
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't work that still, I don't know even if

620
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: it does, I think you had to sign up for

621
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: something to get the guy coming in here and the

622
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: bottom I was sorry, go ahead, photo, that's gotta be

623
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 1: ready for the right the crushers coming by. Bone crusher. Um,

624
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: I don't even where we were talking about, just oh oh,

625
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: the drafts. I mean, that's just not the approach. The

626
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: approach isn't to go and get that guy and so

627
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: they can luck into it and they're always looking for bargains.

628
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: I think one of the best free agent signings that

629
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: they've had since I was here. I've been here twenty

630
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: something years, Leroy Glover. Even Leroy Glover was a two

631
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 1: week into free agency, his number went down, they went

632
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: and they got him, you know, trying to be a

633
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: phenomenal player. I mean Brandon car so much Saints fan Dave, Yeah, yeah,

634
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: I would imagine, you know, they went out and made

635
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: a splash for Brandon car That's what that's one of

636
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the that's one of the few that they've gone, you know,

637
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: right off the start of free agency. And Brandon Carr

638
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: was a good player. He was a good player. People

639
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Speaker 1: remember for Odell making a ridiculous catch around him, by

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Speaker 1: the fact that he didn't get interceptions or whatever. He

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Speaker 1: was a good player. He's an outstanding person in the

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Speaker 1: community and all that. No one cares about that, but

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Speaker 1: they they cared about him making plays and all that,

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Speaker 1: and he was just he was Okay, it really wasn't

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Speaker 1: worth the ten million a year. They tried, they put

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Speaker 1: it out there. But again, those are those a kind

647
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Speaker 1: of things that maybe make them say, we have tried,

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Speaker 1: it just didn't we didn't get the result. That's that's fine,

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Speaker 1: and and you know what, and it comes with the dinner.

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Speaker 1: We love to say that, like Jerry Jones has a

651
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Speaker 1: lot of great things going for him. He's he runs

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. He's got a boatload of money, he's

653
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Speaker 1: got an actual boats. I mean, he gets to be

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Speaker 1: like he you know, he's the most powerful owner in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. But the one bad thing of all of

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Speaker 1: that is until he gets back to the mountaintop that

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Speaker 1: it's just you're gonna get anytime you say anything like that,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get dogged because generations, like how many generations

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Speaker 1: of Cowboy fans now are just rolling their eyes at

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Speaker 1: this point saying like, yeah, we hear this every July

661
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 1: and that's just that's just the story. That's just what

662
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Speaker 1: it's gonna be. Until you do it. Hey, it wouldn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They could have gone out, they could have gotten Earl Thomas,

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Speaker 1: and if they still had the same results, people be like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're stupid. You should have known Earl Thomas was washed up.

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Speaker 1: So it's just you're it's not damned if you do

667
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: and damned if you don't. Well it is, you're but

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Speaker 1: you're just damned until you do it. It's the result doesn't.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay though, I mean, like you wouldn't really

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Speaker 1: want to be the way you could roll your eyes

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Speaker 1: and say, I've heard this before, but I mean think

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Speaker 1: about it, like like even for us working stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: everybody's even if they know you guys know how I

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Speaker 1: am or how you are. You know, like I'll get

675
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Speaker 1: mad about the stupidest stuff, right, the little things that

676
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Speaker 1: have it'll it'll annoy me the day that stops annoying me,

677
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Speaker 1: and get me out of here. Get me out of here.

678
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: If I stop caring, then then it's over. And that's

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00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: the thing. If Jared didn't keep that thing that's saying,

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Speaker 1: if if he comes to train camp one year and said,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know, I don't know William,

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00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's gonna be kind of tough this year.

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Speaker 1: Then you know, maybe it's like, all right, this this

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Speaker 1: isn't time, which is ironic because one of the best seasons,

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Speaker 1: one of the years memories. I knew you were gonna

686
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: say that. Jerry was like, we got an uphill battle,

687
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: that's probably not gonna be a very good team. And

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Speaker 1: then thirteen and three, No. Twelve and four, twenty fourteen,

689
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: Romo could have been MVP and just a great year

690
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: all around. So maybe he should try to help man,

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it's he did say is the most

692
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Speaker 1: challenges they've ever faced before entering a season. I don't

693
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Speaker 1: know if he said, yeah, yeah, no, that was protocol

694
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: stuff or whatever. Probably a little bit of everything, yeah,

695
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Speaker 1: find everything, But I would I would suspect that's you know,

696
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: it's hard for me to think that anything was worse

697
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: than or harder than last year. Like last year probably

698
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: was the hardest that any of us, including the team,

699
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: including the coaches, have ever experienced. It for me of

700
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Speaker 1: doing your job here in the inn, and yeah, I

701
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Speaker 1: just it reminded, you know, we live in Dallas. I

702
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: know not everybody listening does, but you know, the Mavericks

703
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: are kind of in a similar situation where they have

704
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: a very hands on owner and everybody's stressed out about

705
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Speaker 1: how Mark Cuban's gonna handle putting a good team around Luca,

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Speaker 1: And it's Mark cuban Or problem. Does he talk too

707
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Speaker 1: much and for like drive people away? Like It's very

708
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Speaker 1: similar for Jerry Jones. And I've always said, give me

709
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Speaker 1: the guy who cares too much over the guy who's

710
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Speaker 1: just using this as a way to make money and

711
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Speaker 1: have a tax right off, Like, give me, give me

712
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones every single time in terms of like, I

713
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714
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Speaker 1: I do. But at the same time, you're gonna get

715
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: criticized until you get the results. It's just it just

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Speaker 1: is what it is. Parted And at this point, is

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Speaker 1: it twenty six years now, I don't even know it's

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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty six, Yeah, something like that. With the

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Speaker 1: best intentions doesn't matter. Whatever you say is just gonna

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Speaker 1: get an eye roll at this point, You're just the

721
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Speaker 1: fans are just gonna roll their eyes until you proved

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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't. It is what it is. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a final break when we come back from that break,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna jump a little bit farther into this nineties conversation.

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Speaker 1: He said there were there were some things that he's

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Speaker 1: news there. Nick, you're hearing some things well, I mean

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Speaker 1: this is the time where they first press commers. They're

787
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Speaker 1: gonna announce some injury. You know, a designation's pup physically

788
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Speaker 1: unable to perform. It's an active pup list, which means

789
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Speaker 1: it's not the list that they'll be out for six

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Speaker 1: games or something like that. They can always like count

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Speaker 1: to the ninety man roster. They're not going to be

792
00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: able to practice until they're healthy. Then they get off

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00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: the pups. So there's gonna be some names like that,

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Speaker 1: guys that are coming off some injuries, some surgeries. I

795
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: think Amari Cooper will be in there. D law Um

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Speaker 1: didn't really hear a lot in the summer about Greg Zirline,

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00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: but I think Greg Zerline is dealing with a back injury.

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: It's going to keep him on there. Which you know,

799
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot there's backups at receiver, in defensive line.

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Speaker 1: There's not a backup. Kick gonna say that's yeah, that's

801
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: so yeah, looking for a hunter. Nice wonder to be

802
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: doing some of that. Um, he can do everything, kickoff,

803
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: punt and all that. Um, we'll see if he's a

804
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Speaker 1: jack of all trades, master of none, or he can

805
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Speaker 1: be a jack of all trades everything. So that's wonderful

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Speaker 1: to battle with with anger for the pun and all

807
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Speaker 1: of a sudden he has to kick off and who's

808
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Speaker 1: holding anger? I don't you know, Like I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna be interesting to how that how

810
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: that plays in. And I guess we'll see on the

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Speaker 1: severity of it, because I mean, people get worked up

812
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: about pup and training camp, but like and and sometimes

813
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: it is serious. But sometimes you're on it for like

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Speaker 1: four days, Like they just don't want you out there

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Speaker 1: until you're ready. Sometimes it's because you're out Yeah, exactly,

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00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: you have the yesterday they had. They're they're testing where

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00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: they kind of figure out where everybody is physically, and

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00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: so you might come out of that and there may

819
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: be some things they're like, get him some work with

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00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: the trainers, just just kind of getting him in shape,

821
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll put him out on the field. But

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Speaker 1: if it is serious with zirline, again, you know, I

823
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: don't I don't care. If Amari Cooper's practicing, he's fine,

824
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: he'll be good to go. And there's eight other receivers,

825
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: but Zeroline, you only have one kicker, and they also

826
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: have a roster spot right now. They waved a receiver

827
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Speaker 1: when we got here, or like the day we left,

828
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Speaker 1: and so I wonder if they would bring a guy

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Speaker 1: in to help with that, because that's awesome that Hunter

830
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: can do everything, but probably don't want him to, yeah,

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Speaker 1: or maybe want to see what somebody else can do.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, that's interesting, zirline. He's been in the

833
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: league for a while. If he's a too, yeah, he's

834
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Speaker 1: he's an older guy. I guess he's thirty three. Yeah,

835
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: that just you know. I've said this before on this show,

836
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Speaker 1: and it was typically we were talking about offensive lineman.

837
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Speaker 1: But I get really nervous when when players start having

838
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 1: back issues because it's that's not something that necessarily, necessarily,

839
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, gets better over time. Even if you

840
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Speaker 1: get you know, whatever you're going to get done to it,

841
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily get better over time. And so that's

842
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: something worth keeping an eye on. If he's starting the

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00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 1: starting on pup and and uh, you know, just seeing

844
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Speaker 1: where that all develop, seeing what there they think the

845
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Speaker 1: prognos is, and I think we also should follow the

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Speaker 1: t leaves they start bringing in guys. Oh yeah, then

847
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Speaker 1: you really start wondering kind of what's the long term

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Speaker 1: just the Uh this is important to note too. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know how many practices are going to be unpadded,

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Speaker 1: because that's it's a normal total of thirteen practices and

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Speaker 1: the first padded practices next Wednesday, the twenty eight. So

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Speaker 1: they have a practice today, Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, So they're

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Speaker 1: four practices that are unpadded. Back in the Garrett tenure,

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Speaker 1: it was normal to do two unpadded just to kind

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Speaker 1: of get everybody acclimated. It's gonna be more than that.

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Speaker 1: And so that's not a league because I know, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it's it's not. I just I designated it by Garrick

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Speaker 1: upcake care. Now it's a league rules, right. Yeah. But

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Speaker 1: the point is we're gonna have a much longer wait,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a much longer way than we're used

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Speaker 1: to for the real deal. And so I'm even less

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Speaker 1: worried than I normally would be about this and one

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Speaker 1: of these injuries I bet is actually significant just playing

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Speaker 1: the numbers, but I'm not gonna sweat about it until

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Speaker 1: we have a chance to see some practices and see

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Speaker 1: what's going on. Okay, we will also u and I

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Speaker 1: think that the conversation we were going to get into

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Speaker 1: is going to be a little bit deeper than the

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Speaker 1: four men said. We have little stuff, so we'll say that,

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Speaker 1: but I do want to give everybody an idea of

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Speaker 1: what they can expect during the time that we're your

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Speaker 1: training camp. We will be doing a podcast like this

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Speaker 1: one every morning at nine am Pacific time, that's eleven

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Speaker 1: am back Central time. It will alternate between our group

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Speaker 1: and Talking Cowboys. Talking Cowboys with Kyle Yeomans will host

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: that show with Rob Phillips and with Mickey Spagnola. We

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Speaker 1: will also in the afternoons or actually it's afternoon back

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Speaker 1: in Dallas, will be ten thirty here after Coach McCarthy's

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Speaker 1: press conference. Every day, we will have two shows that

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Speaker 1: are that will also be alternating. We'll have Players Lounge

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Speaker 1: and we will also have Hanging with the Boys. Those

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Speaker 1: two will alternate at ten thirty Pacific time every day.

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Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, and then in the afternoon, we have

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Speaker 1: a new show we'll be rolling out for you guys

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Speaker 1: at three pm. It'll be a show about practice. It'll

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Speaker 1: only happen on days that there is practice, and it

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Speaker 1: will be a recap of what the sights and sounds

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Speaker 1: were at practice, the guys that played well, any highlight moments,

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Speaker 1: anythings that may have gone wrong for the team during

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Speaker 1: those practices. But that's kind of the layout of the

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Speaker 1: type of content we're gonna be putting out for you

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Speaker 1: guys from a podcast standpoint here every day on Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and all of our channels. So we're

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Speaker 1: gonna wrap this thing up. We will be back with

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Speaker 1: you again our crew on Saturday. We will talk a

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Speaker 1: lot about some more things that we have from that

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Speaker 1: opening press conference that we didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 1: get to today until then. For Gateman and Dave Helmet,

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Speaker 1: I'm Derek Eagleton. This has been the Break live on

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