1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Let's turn back to this morning's jobs data. Jobs growth 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: accelerated in September, showing signs of a stabilizing labor market 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: before the government shutdown. Joining us to discuss we are 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: pleased to say, is the US Labor Secretary Lori Chavez Dreamer. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: Miss Secretary, thank you so much for your time this morning. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: Let me first ask you about the headline numbers. It 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: was a blowout. We were only expecting fifty one thousand 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: in our survey, and far more than double that is 9 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: what we got. How strong is this economy? 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 2: Well, one hundred and nineteen thousand new jobs. I think 11 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: that is a solid report for the American people and 12 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: for the workforce. We have seen over and over again 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: that we want to have these gains, and it's those 14 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: investments by this administration and this president. I think this 15 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: is what you're seeing come online. So this was a 16 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 2: solid report for the September numbers. We'll have to see 17 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 2: how November numbers come out in mid December, but I 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: think that this is good for the American people. We 19 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: know that more people are wanting to work and they're 20 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 2: actively seeking those jobs, and so it is my responsibility 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: to make sure that we have that skilled workforce, and 22 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 2: so I think that you're going to see consumer confidence. 23 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: And again with prices coming down energy prices, gas prices, 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 2: we're seeing real wages go up. Blue collar wages have 25 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 2: gone up over the last sixty years, and I think 26 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: that that's the exciting part of this is that we're 27 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: seeing people who are wanting to get on the ground, 28 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 2: have the skills that they need and get in the workforce. 29 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: Secretary Sharvis Drimer, you might sound very similar to those 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 3: who don't want this FED to cut that this is 31 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: a healthy labor market. The President, though even jokingly yesterday, 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 3: was saying Scott Bessen would be fired had he not 33 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 3: been able to get this FED to cut. So in 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: your view of this labor market, is it strong enough 35 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 3: that it doesn't need assistance from the Fed? 36 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think the President has been pretty clear on 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 2: this issue. We did see the two rate cuts. I 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: think the FED does need to go ahead and cut again. 39 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: You know, when I travel around the country talking to businesses, 40 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 2: which I have hit thirty six out of fifty states 41 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: on my fifty state tour before you know, the Democratics 42 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,959 Speaker 2: shut down happened, those business owners are wanting to borrow 43 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 2: more money at a cheaper rate to invest in their workforce. 44 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 2: That is what they're asking, and so I think another 45 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: rate cut is exactly what we need to really grow 46 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 2: this workforce. I mean, we see GDP is up four 47 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: point two percent. I think that that's positive growth. And 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: we want to see more private sector jobs come online. 49 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Out of the one hundred nineteen thousand jobs we saw, 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 2: ninety seven thousand of those jobs have been in the 51 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 2: private sector, which is way different than the Biden administration 52 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: when we saw they were all government jobs. So I 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: think we're on the right track. 54 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: It does seem like inflation is a concern. We heard 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: that from Walmart today that it's got to pass through 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: these tariff costs somehow. Are you not worried that we 57 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: have arise in inflation that hits lower income workers especially 58 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: hard if we continue to cut rates. 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: Well, I think what happens when you're talking to the 60 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 2: American families every day, they want affordability, so they look 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: for ways in order to provide for their families. As 62 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 2: a former congresswoman and as a former mayor, I know 63 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: how important that is each and every day. What we 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: want to do is grow this workforce so that they 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: can have more money in their own pockets. These policies 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,399 Speaker 2: that came forward with the working family tax cut are 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 2: going to start to hit. No tax on tips, no 68 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: tax on overtime, no tax on Social Security. I think 69 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: that that's what people want to see is more of 70 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 2: their hard earned dollars in their own pockets for their 71 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: own choices. We've seen again these real way to grow 72 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: up almost seven hundred dollars, and I think that that's 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: going to be key, way different than the Biden administration. 74 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, when wages were down almost three thousand and so, 75 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: you know, to we have seven hundred dollars more in 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: a family's pocket. That matters to the American people. 77 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: Don't we lose some of those dollars? If we continue 78 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: to see three percent plus inflation on top of the 79 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: inflation that we saw during the Biden administration, prices can 80 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: continue to climb for everything from food to housing. Isn't 81 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: that a concern if we continue to cut rates that 82 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: we throw more fuel on that inflation fire. 83 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: Well, Actually, food prices have been down, energy prices have 84 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: been down. We've heard over and over again our Thanksgiving 85 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: meal is going to be less than it was under 86 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: the Biden administration. So while we have seen oftentimes that 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 2: some prices have gone up, whether it's in beef and 88 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: some of the other sectors, we have seen housing. We 89 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 2: certainly want to address the housing costs because people want 90 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 2: to be able to afford their homes. I think the 91 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 2: FED rate cutting will give us exactly that. So I'm 92 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 2: standing behind the President on this. I think we need 93 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: another rate cut. It's been a. 94 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 3: Little bit Secretary again, Preto long. 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: Down that runway, but we need to cut that rate. 96 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: Part of what you're saying, you want to cut the 97 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 3: rate because you want more private sector hiring. We hear 98 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: you loud and clear on that. But we have to 99 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 3: say this latest job support government jobs grew. Do you 100 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: want to see that reverse? Why is it growing when 101 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 3: this is a government that's been trying to cut back 102 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: on what you say was a Biden administration that only 103 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 3: supported the economy through hiring via the government. 104 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 2: The government jobs haven't grown. The only portion of government 105 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: jobs that has grown in this last report that is 106 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: showing have been at the state and local level, not 107 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: at the federal level. Over two million private sector jobs 108 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 2: have come online, and that has been for Native born. 109 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: We are seeing massive amounts of the private sector. Out 110 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 2: of these one hundred nineteen thousand jobs, ninety seven thousand 111 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 2: of those were in the private sector. We're going to 112 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 2: do more and more with the private sector to grow 113 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 2: this economy, opposite than what the Biden administration did, where 114 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: they were all federal jobs. That isn't what the mandate 115 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: was when they elected President Trump. It was to grow 116 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 2: the private sector economy, and that is exactly what's happening. 117 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: One of the other things the President is talking about 118 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: is sending middle to lower income Americans rebate checks from 119 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,840 Speaker 1: the tariffs, which have been behind a lot of the 120 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: inflation that we've seen. So giving some of that money 121 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 1: back to those earning a little bit less. Do you 122 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: support that, you know, two thousand dollars check push. 123 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: Well, certainly. The President has been in consultation with his 124 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 2: economic team. I think this is one way to give 125 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 2: back to the American people. You know, people work hard 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 2: for their money and when they provide that to the government, 127 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: they have a contract that that's going to be spent wisely. 128 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: These dollars, though, are coming in from tariffs to give 129 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: back to the American people, and I think that that 130 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 2: is a good plan that the President has set forth. 131 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: He will continue in consultation with his economic team and 132 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: what he determines. You know, he's a man of the people. 133 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 2: I say this. You see on my building I hang 134 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 2: his banner because he is the president of the working family. 135 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 2: He is the president for the men and women of 136 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 2: this country. Every decision I make at the Department of 137 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 2: Labor is through the lens of the men and women 138 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: who have built this country, and they deserve to be 139 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: taken care of. And that's exactly what the President has 140 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 2: been doing. 141 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:00,160 Speaker 3: Miss Secretary. Before we let you go, just quickly, I 142 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 3: know we're looking for a little bit of guidance on 143 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: some of the tax code changes, specifically who's going to 144 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 3: be exempted from overtime tax or who's going to get 145 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 3: that overtime tax exemption. Do you have any clarity on 146 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 3: that or at least a timeline of when we can 147 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: expect the Labor Department to come out with those clarifications. 148 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'll be working with Treasury Secretary and certainly through 149 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 2: the Department of Labor. I would imagine that with those 150 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: policies in place from the Working Family Tax cut, that 151 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: we'll start to see stuff in the first and second quarter, 152 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 2: but any specifics I don't have on an actual release date. 153 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 2: But again, one hundred nineteen thousand jobs I think is 154 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 2: a solid report. I'll be looking forward to see what 155 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: the numbers are for November, which will be released in 156 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: mid December. And I know the economists all got it 157 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 2: wrong on this, and so this is a good for 158 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: the American people that we saw a solid report of 159 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 2: one hundred and nineteen thousand jobs. 160 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: Miss Secretary, thank you so much for joining us this morning. 161 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: That is the Labor Secretary, Laurie shavesder Rima. And of 162 00:07:55,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 3: course tomorrow, don't miss another important conversation Fed Governor been 163 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: my Ron on Bloomberg surveillance that will happen at eight 164 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 3: thirty am Wall Street Time,