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Speaker 1: Hum, where were we? Oh right, Cardi B's world domination.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about it. Carti was not only breaking records,

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Speaker 2: she was making history.

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Speaker 1: Her name was everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But that was twenty eighteen. Carti needed to prove she

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Speaker 2: had what it took to continue staying relevant.

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Speaker 1: Honey was on top, and she wanted to stay on top.

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Speaker 1: If it's up, then it's up, Then it's up, then

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Speaker 1: it's stuck.

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Speaker 2: She was worried Bodak Yellow would be the end of

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Speaker 2: all the attention, but then she silenced all the critics,

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Speaker 2: even the ones in her own head, by dropping invasion

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Speaker 2: of privacy. The only thing harder than that first smash

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Speaker 2: is the second one.

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Speaker 1: I never died in my girl, Carti, but there were

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Speaker 1: definitely doubters out there.

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Speaker 2: But that makes it more exciting. Carti loves a challenge.

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Speaker 2: She loves proving people wrong. She loves doing what they say.

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Speaker 2: She can't wait.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I see what you did there? Those

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Speaker 1: are some good bars.

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Speaker 2: Last episode, we told you all about Carti's rise to

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Speaker 2: the top. Today it's about how she's managed to stay

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Speaker 2: perched on the throne and how her breakthrough makes a

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Speaker 2: statement to women everywhere to go after what they want

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Speaker 2: from the success of Bodak Yellow to Walk. This is

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Speaker 2: how Carti cements herself as the reigning queen of hip hop.

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Speaker 3: I'm your host Lilianavosquez.

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Speaker 1: And I'm Joseph Carrio and this is Becoming an.

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Speaker 2: Icon a weekly podcast where we give you the rundown

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Speaker 2: on how today's most famous LATINV stars have shaped pop culture.

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Speaker 1: And given the world some extra level.

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Speaker 3: Sit back and get comfortable.

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Speaker 4: Because we are going in the only way we know how,

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Speaker 4: with buena buenesriesas and a lot of opinions as we

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Speaker 4: relive their greatest.

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Speaker 2: Achievements on our journey to find out what makes them

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Speaker 2: so iconic.

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Speaker 1: So you already know what's up.

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Speaker 2: Carti received the most nominations in twenty eighteen at the

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Speaker 2: VMAs and the AMAS.

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Speaker 1: Girl was sweeping more than My Mama on a Sunday.

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Speaker 2: She was winning awards left and right. But there was

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Speaker 2: one award show that was a little more elusive, the Grammys.

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Speaker 2: But we're getting ahead of ourselves.

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Speaker 1: Good things were coming and.

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Speaker 2: More people kept wanting to collaborate with her, including Mosquito's Jeremy.

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Speaker 1: Scott Wait, Jeremy raps No.

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Speaker 3: Not on a track on a dress.

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Speaker 1: Oh and not just any dress, one for the met Gala.

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Speaker 1: Her first invite from Anna Wait, and she had a

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Speaker 1: plus one who her baby?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, how could I forget yourself?

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Speaker 1: Bababe?

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Speaker 2: Yo, you know how hard it is to get an

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Speaker 2: extra invite to the met Gala.

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Speaker 1: She smuggled in that, babe, like that baby could say

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Speaker 1: she was at the met Gala?

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Speaker 2: Can I just say that she deserves some kind of

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Speaker 2: mom metal because it is hard enough to wear stretchy

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Speaker 2: sweatpants and a sweatshirt when you are this pregnant. That

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Speaker 2: dress looked like it weighed a thousand pounds and she

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Speaker 2: carried it so effortlessly up like fifty steps.

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Speaker 1: It's true. I will say this about my opinion. I

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Speaker 1: have to say that my opinion only mine, Okay, I

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Speaker 1: only like Cardi when she's kind of dressed like this,

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Speaker 1: over the top. I think that when she tries to

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Speaker 1: of looks like a mobster's wife. That when she's dressed

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Speaker 1: like this, I feel like she can hold this. Her makeup,

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Speaker 1: her hair can hold a very couture or stagey look.

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Speaker 2: Well, you and I often disagree on what we like

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Speaker 2: when it comes to what someone is wearing. It's what

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Speaker 2: I love about our relationship. But I a thousand percent

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Speaker 2: agree with you on this, and I've noticed that when

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Speaker 2: Carti attends couture shows in Paris, it's when she looks

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Speaker 2: her absolute best, and I think you nailed it. It's

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Speaker 2: because she can pull off something that would read very

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Speaker 2: costume on Kendall Jenner or on Kim Kardashian. Carti, I think,

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Speaker 2: because so much of her personality is character driven, can

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Speaker 1: And the fact that she has now been to three

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Speaker 1: different metcalas it makes her even more iconic. Oh.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, For a long time she was a fashion outsider,

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Speaker 2: and now she's a staple at the Met Gala and

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Speaker 1: At the Met it was what Tom Brown and who

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Speaker 1: was the one.

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Speaker 3: Versaes my god.

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Speaker 1: Days?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you.

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Speaker 2: Imagine a better pairing than Donatella and Cardi?

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Speaker 1: No, that's the gold chains she is giving you rap

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Speaker 1: Dominicana realness.

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Speaker 3: But back to the music soon enough.

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Speaker 2: DJ Snakes Thaki Taki blessed our car Radio.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. I loved Saki Taki so so so much,

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Speaker 1: but for one major reason, Cardi. I know we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Cardi, but no Selena.

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Speaker 2: Gomez, Baby Selena, Little Selena.

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Speaker 1: Little Selena. G mm hmm.

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Speaker 3: Wait.

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Speaker 1: So that's that's how I remember that song. I remember

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Speaker 1: being like, wait, Selena Gomez has a new song. That's

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Speaker 1: the first thing that came to my head. So that's

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Speaker 1: why I remember it. But that song was one of

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Speaker 1: my summer songs, Like I listened to it for like

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Speaker 1: seven months. It was like in my most played Spotify.

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Speaker 2: I think it was in a lot of people's most

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Speaker 2: played Spotify. Whether you're an Azuna fan or a Cardi

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Speaker 2: fan or Selina fan, it didn't really matter because there's

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Speaker 2: certain songs that are so catchy and it's hard to

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Speaker 3: Why is it the beat, is it the lyrics? Is

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Speaker 2: For whatever reason, Daki Thaki was infectious the court like

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Speaker 2: Daki Taki Rumba.

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Speaker 3: It's just it just I don't know. It was so good.

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Speaker 2: Daki Thaki made Cardi b the first female rapper to

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Speaker 2: chart on Spotify Global fifty.

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Speaker 1: And Entertainment Weekly declared her a freaking pop culture phenomenon.

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Speaker 3: Is that a direct quote?

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Speaker 1: I think guess I want to.

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Speaker 3: Be a freaking pop culture phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: According to Apple Music and Billboard, I Like It became

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Speaker 2: the best song of twenty eighteen, while Time magazine and

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Speaker 2: Rolling Stone named Invasion of Privacy the Album of the Year.

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Speaker 1: She was also named one of the Time one hundred.

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Speaker 2: She more than earned her title as the new reigning

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Speaker 2: Queen of Rap. At the sixty first Grammy Awards, Cardi

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Speaker 2: b was nominated for five categories Album of the Year,

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Speaker 2: Best Rap.

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Speaker 5: Album, Record of the Year for I Like It, Best

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Speaker 5: Rap Performance, and Best Pop Duo Group Performance for her

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Speaker 2: This made her the third female rapper ever to be

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Speaker 2: nominated for Album of the Year, behind Lauren Hill in

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine and Missy Elliott in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 1: Exki Yows Me, Super Dupa Fly Missy the very same

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Speaker 1: she went from idolizing Missy Elliott to becoming her equal.

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Speaker 1: Maybe one day that'll be me and my bestie Anna

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Speaker 1: Wintur Joseph. No, I'm not letting it go.

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Speaker 6: I can dream That night, she tore up the stage

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Speaker 6: and became the first female rapper to win Best Rap

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Speaker 6: Album as a solo artist.

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Speaker 2: She toorked on that piano like her life depended on

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Speaker 2: it and made all of us at home go damn.

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Speaker 1: Literally, when you said twerked, I heard. I thought you

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Speaker 1: were gonna say tore it up, and then you said twerked.

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Speaker 1: But she tore worked. She tore it up, She torked,

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Speaker 1: She laid it all out there, and she had her

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Speaker 1: clothes on. What do you mean, just a bodysuit.

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Speaker 3: Oh you mean you.

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Speaker 1: Weren't seeing flesh, right, She just had a bodysuit like

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Speaker 1: everything was covered. She was giving you the feeline Wakanda.

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Speaker 3: Cat, right, a feline Wakonda cat.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you were getting?

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Speaker 3: No, it's definitely not where I was going with it.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay.

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Speaker 2: This show is all about your personal interpretation of music,

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Speaker 2: performances and our icons. I just remember thinking, as always,

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Speaker 2: the Grammys can be a little dull blame not always,

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Speaker 2: I think, one of the most memorable Grammy performances to date.

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Speaker 3: She had like thirty dancers, which.

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Speaker 1: There were stripper velveteen sofas.

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Speaker 2: She brought a strip club to the stage at the

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Speaker 3: Yep, it was good. It was really good.

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Speaker 1: It was really good. I would encourage you guys to

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to say appreciate, appreciate well.

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Speaker 2: And make sure while you're appreciating the performance, you also

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Speaker 2: of address and Cardi b was la perla.

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Speaker 1: Right. I'm going to say two words, Botta Celli. That

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Speaker 2: I love that you were gonna say extra smarch and

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Speaker 2: I was like birth of Venus botta cellist.

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Speaker 3: Our brains work in such different ways.

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Speaker 1: Seriously.

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Speaker 2: That night at the Grammys, she tore up the stage

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Speaker 2: and more importantly, became the first female rapper to win

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Speaker 2: Music Awards nominated her twenty one times, the most in

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Speaker 2: a single year ever by a woman, and the third

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Speaker 1: What the f are the chain Smokers? Do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Who are the chain Smokers?

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Speaker 1: Are they a band?

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Speaker 2: I feel like a band is a stretch because they

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Speaker 3: They play buttons? Is that fair?

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Speaker 2: Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? So if they were in front of you

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Speaker 1: with name tags, would you know who they were? Oh?

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Speaker 2: Definitely No, not a chance, No, exactly. CARTI Well, she

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Speaker 2: wasn't done another collab, another hit.

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Speaker 1: It's your boy. He's back from the penthouse and that's

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Speaker 1: where he keeps his pens.

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Speaker 2: We're talking Bruno Mars, please meet. It was the second

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Speaker 2: time they had worked together, and if the first one

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Speaker 2: was steamy, what did we think of?

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Speaker 1: Please me? The video was so good. Do you remember

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Speaker 1: the video? They were dancing at the diner and honestly,

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Speaker 1: I kind of just wanted some of those fries.

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Speaker 3: How did I know that?

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Speaker 2: Out of everything that that video gave you, from the

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Speaker 3: You were like, we can I get an order of

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Speaker 3: cheese fries?

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Speaker 1: Can I get some of those fries?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: But Carti did look amazing. She was giving you that

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Speaker 1: kind of bronx video vixen again still clothed.

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Speaker 2: As we've seen so far, Carti is no stranger to collapse.

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Speaker 2: Wop debuted at number one on the Hot one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Shit that boy ain't never been near No damn Wop.

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Speaker 2: You know what I think also supports Carti's liberation and

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Speaker 3: Get with it. People have sex, women have pussies. We're

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Speaker 1: The secret mastermind behind it all was Brooklyn Johnny, Cardi

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Speaker 2: When asked by Billboard how it all started, he replied,

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Speaker 1: Don't remind me.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know.

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Speaker 2: For Carti and her team, it was like, well what now.

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Speaker 3: In this business.

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Speaker 2: We know it's all about looks. As we've learned with

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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. You listened to the song and

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Speaker 2: According to Johnny, it was like butter. The whole experience

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Awa, what was your first impression of watching just

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Speaker 2: The first time I heard the song, I think I

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Speaker 2: They just put out a great track. You cannot take

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Speaker 2: take away from the song, and it felt fresh, and

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Speaker 2: you know what else, it felt it felt like fun

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Speaker 2: and we deserved fine.

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Speaker 1: Compared to some of her other videos, We're very criminal

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Speaker 1: and killing this someone was sexy and fun. And their

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Speaker 1: hair it was like zebra.

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Speaker 3: Everything was so good.

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Speaker 2: And when you got to actually watch the video, twenty

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Speaker 2: six million of you watched it in its very first day,

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Speaker 2: it broke the record for the biggest twenty four hour

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Speaker 2: debut for an all female collaboration on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: I just remember thinking wow, well.

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Speaker 1: During COVID and it was Black Lives Matter and seeing

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Speaker 1: these black women really take control over their image, blackness

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Speaker 1: and femininity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and exert dominance that way.

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Speaker 2: Over an industry that typically has it reversed, right, it's

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Speaker 2: the guys that are usually rapping about this stuff. They're

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Speaker 2: the ones singing about this, and all of a sudden

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Speaker 2: they spun that idea on its head and we're like, no,

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Speaker 2: if anyone deserves to talk about sexuality, it's us, because

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Speaker 2: it's our.

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Speaker 3: Sexuality that you're speaking of. So I was just ready

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Speaker 3: for a little walp fun. I was here for it.

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Speaker 3: I was ready for that song.

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Speaker 1: And now naming all those girls that were in the video,

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Speaker 1: A two were just such powerful women.

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Speaker 3: Who was your favorite cameo in WOP?

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Speaker 1: Ohugh, I hate myself. I hate myself for what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to say.

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Speaker 3: I already know, I already know who.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I'm going to say?

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Speaker 3: You're going to say Kylie Jenner?

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Speaker 1: It was Kylie Jenner. It was just I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, And you know how I feel

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Speaker 1: about that situation, which we won't touch on.

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Speaker 2: We won'te but I think that every cameo had its

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Speaker 2: own moment wow.

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Speaker 1: And it's like Normani was good.

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Speaker 2: Normani is incredible, Drosalia is incredible. By the way, Sukihana,

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Speaker 2: I didn't know about her who she was until this video,

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Speaker 2: because of course you watch the video and then you're like, who.

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Speaker 3: Were all the women in wop video?

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Speaker 2: Which I think is a credit to Megan and Cardi

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Speaker 2: because they also know how powerful they are as voices

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Speaker 2: in the industry that they allowed these other women to

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Speaker 2: step in. They shared the spotlight from WOP with other

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Speaker 2: female artists and created a whole legion of fans for

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Speaker 2: all of these other artists. And that's what I love

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Speaker 2: about them. They are here to share the shine. So

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Speaker 2: it was for me just such a moment and I'm

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Speaker 2: so happy that it happened, and thank god we had

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Speaker 2: that during covid. Neil Shaw of The Wall Street Journal

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Speaker 2: deemed Wop a big moment for female rappers and a

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Speaker 2: historic sign that women artists are making their mark on

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Speaker 2: hip hop like never before.

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Speaker 1: The song also became the first number one single in

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Speaker 1: the inaugural Billboard Global two hundred.

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Speaker 2: In December twenty twenty, Cardi B became the first female

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Speaker 2: rapper to be named Women of the Year at the

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Speaker 2: Billboard Women in Music Awards. With her win for Wop

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Speaker 2: at the American Music Awards, she became the first artist

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Speaker 2: to win the American Music Award her Favorite Rap hip

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Speaker 2: Hop Song multiple times. Following her win for Bodak Yellow

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Speaker 2: in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Cardi B was no one hit Wonder Mama. She was

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Speaker 1: pure talent. Here to stay baby. Cardi B is a

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Speaker 1: different kind of icon. She was on vine a stripper,

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Speaker 1: a reality star, and then became this full blown sensation.

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Speaker 1: And she's also an inspiration. Wouldn't you say.

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Speaker 2: Yeah when we were discussing who would make the Icon's List.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, I don't know that Cardi B was

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Speaker 2: on it right from the start, Right because we're talking

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Speaker 2: about women like Jennifer Lopez who's.

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Speaker 3: Had a career that's lasted thirty years.

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about Glodias thephon, and then all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, we're like, wait, But if you think

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Speaker 2: about the impact that Carti's success and her path to

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Speaker 2: success has had on women, especially women of color, who

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Speaker 2: tend to be excluded and marginalized, she absolutely deserves a

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Speaker 2: place on this list because, in some way, at least,

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Speaker 2: I think she's kind of this beacon of.

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Speaker 3: Hope that regardless of your past, it doesn't necessarily dictate

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Speaker 3: your future.

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Speaker 2: There is a space for you if you want it

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Speaker 2: and are willing to work really, really hard.

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Speaker 1: She always had her sights set on so much more,

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Speaker 1: and now she is so iconic because she grew up

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Speaker 1: poor and now she is just making money in her sleep.

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Speaker 3: She truly is.

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Speaker 1: That is just an inspiration for anyone.

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Speaker 3: She loves to cash checks. We know this about her

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Speaker 3: her favorite thing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, you're absolutely right, And I just feel with Carti

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Speaker 2: more so than with older artists, and Bad Bunny also

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Speaker 2: made me think this too. There is an unapologetic authenticity

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Speaker 2: to who they are, and I think that audiences now,

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Speaker 2: especially younger generations, not that we're old, but younger generations

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Speaker 2: demand that of their icons, and they demand that from

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Speaker 2: their artists, and it's really refreshing, like they're not this

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Speaker 2: manufactured rapper or this manufactured pop star. The reason they

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Speaker 2: have global success in what feels so fast, is because

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Speaker 2: they are no one but themselves.

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Speaker 1: And they are real and now that is iconic.

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Speaker 3: On the next Becoming an Icon, we aren't quite done

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Speaker 3: with Cardi b just yet.

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Speaker 2: On our next episode, we're joined by Times Moys has

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Speaker 2: Men This to chat one more time about this Dominican

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Speaker 2: queen and how she keeps changing the game. Becoming an

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Speaker 2: Icon is presented by Sonoo and Iheart'smichaelthuda podcast network. Listen

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