WEBVTT - #444 Packers Unscripted: Constant challenge

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<v Speaker 1>Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,

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<v Speaker 1>West had Kuwitz. Were coming to you here from our

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<v Speaker 1>studios at lambeau Field and West. It's a Monday. The

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<v Speaker 1>Packers obviously did not play over the weekend. The message

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<v Speaker 1>from head coach Matt Lafleur as he dismissed his players

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<v Speaker 1>and coaches for a weekend off after a tough Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night loss to the Philadelphia Eagles pretty simple in that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to turn the page. I believe the phrase

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<v Speaker 1>he used was hit the reset button, because as frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>as the loss was, you have chances by the goal line,

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<v Speaker 1>and you lose the turnover battle and all of these

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<v Speaker 1>other things that went into it. You have to hit

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<v Speaker 1>that reset button and move on because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of football left to be played. Yeah, I thought, least

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yesterday in particular showed you where the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>sit right now, three and one going into the second

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<v Speaker 1>quarter of the season. That's a pretty good position to

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<v Speaker 1>be in right now in the NFC. And it's tough

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, and I know fans get like this

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<v Speaker 1>to have already started to answer some Insider Inbox questions

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<v Speaker 1>before we tape the show for what will be Tuesday's

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<v Speaker 1>Insider Inbox, and everyone's so reactionary, you know, wins and losses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the greatest thing ever's the worst thing ever. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that always surprises me is that, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>media myself is included in this very It's all about consistency,

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<v Speaker 1>right the entire season is you know, the best teams

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<v Speaker 1>that make the playoffs are the most consistent ones. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very difficult just to dominate every single week in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not n c A football where if you're top

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<v Speaker 1>five team in the country, you're just expected to blow

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<v Speaker 1>everyone out. I mean, you had Baltimore looking like they're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to be world beaters and destroying everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they go and have the performance that they did

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<v Speaker 1>against Cleveland, and Cleveland was the worst team in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're back at two and two. So from

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, you just have to look at everything at

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<v Speaker 1>a high macro level. Right now you're three and one.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna going into a tough environment in Dallas, no

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<v Speaker 1>question about that. But now the Cowboys are coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of a really close loss. So all those things, paired

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<v Speaker 1>together are what makes the league so great. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>also about showing which teams can weekend and week out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, find the way to win, regardless of whether

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<v Speaker 1>everything goes correctly or not. Yeah, and shortly after we

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<v Speaker 1>get done taping this episode, the Packers will be hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the practice field for an unusual Monday practice, obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>players coming back from the weekend. It'll be a short

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<v Speaker 1>workout and getting ready for that Week five trip to Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>As the week goes along, we will see what the

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<v Speaker 1>injury updates are with regards to Davante Adams and his toe,

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<v Speaker 1>and Brian Blaga and his shoulder, and Kevin King and

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<v Speaker 1>his growing Those are three prominent starters obviously in the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers lineup that we will see how the week unfolds

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<v Speaker 1>with them. But you said it was as I packed

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<v Speaker 1>up my things and went to bed last night after

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<v Speaker 1>kind of absorbing a day of NFL football, I think

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<v Speaker 1>what struck me because it applies to the Packers and

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<v Speaker 1>what happened on Thursday night against the Eagles. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>how hard it is to get to four and oh

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<v Speaker 1>in this league. I mean, you look at what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>The Los Angeles Rams give up fifty five points at home,

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<v Speaker 1>so they don't get to four. And oh, the New

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<v Speaker 1>England Patriots got all they could handle from the Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>Bills and win by six, partly thanks to a blocked

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<v Speaker 1>punt for a touchdown and knocking the starting quarterback for

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<v Speaker 1>the Bills out of the game and the backup ends

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<v Speaker 1>up throwing an interception in the end zone. So New

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<v Speaker 1>England survives and gets to four. No, the Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs get all they can handle from the Detroit Lions.

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<v Speaker 1>They barely survive on a touchdown with twenty seconds left

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<v Speaker 1>to get to four. And oh, it's not an easy

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<v Speaker 1>thing to do. And as you said at the outset

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<v Speaker 1>three and one at the quarter pool, there's absolutely nothing

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<v Speaker 1>wrong with that. And right now in the NFC, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>he has more than three victories. The only undefeated team

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<v Speaker 1>is the San Francisco forty Niners at three and oh

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<v Speaker 1>because they were on a bye week. Yeah, absolutely, and

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<v Speaker 1>and and we're gonna talk about some of these Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>games here in a minute. But I thought the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City game against Detroit showed you exactly where the bar

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<v Speaker 1>is and It's weird because Kansas City, that is not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a performance at Andy Reid and those

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<v Speaker 1>coaches are gonna put up as this is one of

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<v Speaker 1>our best that we've ever had. But in an environment

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<v Speaker 1>like Ford Field, you and I have been there how

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<v Speaker 1>many times now, Mike, when you get that energy, they

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<v Speaker 1>get that crowd excited. How difficult it is to pull

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<v Speaker 1>back in Patrick Mahomes. Despite the fact he didn't throw

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown pass in that game, only the fourth time

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<v Speaker 1>in his career that that's happened, they still found a

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<v Speaker 1>path to victory late. That's what it takes to be

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<v Speaker 1>a four oh team. And it's also underrated because it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a tough, bitter taste in your mode to end September.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Packers did a lot of solid things to

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<v Speaker 1>get to three and one at this point, defensively, offensively,

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<v Speaker 1>special teams. It's just it's trying to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you shore up the leaks that showed in that game

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<v Speaker 1>against Philadelphia get back on track now going into Dallas. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at the NFC North, the Lions certainly having just

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<v Speaker 1>as many regrets about their home loss to Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>as the Packers are with their home loss to the Eagles,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Lions had I mean, my goodness, they have

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown overturned by replay, and then on the next

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<v Speaker 1>play it's a sack fumble and they lose the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And then later on you have a running back who

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<v Speaker 1>coughs it up at the goal line and the Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City Chiefs pick it up and run all the way

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<v Speaker 1>down in the field for a defensive touchdown. And at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, the final score of that

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<v Speaker 1>game is thirty four to thirty in in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City. And uh, the Lions are looking at this

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<v Speaker 1>same boy, they were. They were right there to get

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<v Speaker 1>to three oh and one and actually be on top

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<v Speaker 1>of the NFC North at the quarter pole with the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers and the Bears at three and one, with Chicago

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<v Speaker 1>knocking off Minnesota. Yeah, and and the Lions again shows

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<v Speaker 1>you how you really can't or predict anything week to

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<v Speaker 1>week in this league, not only from how tough they

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<v Speaker 1>played Kansas City. You give credit to them for that

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<v Speaker 1>they were to to oh and one. I think you know,

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<v Speaker 1>even if you didn't expect the Lions win the game,

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<v Speaker 1>you expected them to have a really good performance. But

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<v Speaker 1>they end up getting a rushing yards from Carrie on

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<v Speaker 1>Johnson after they really haven't been able to establish the

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<v Speaker 1>run very well during their first three victories. Kenny Gallady,

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<v Speaker 1>who was shut down completely a week before in a win,

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<v Speaker 1>well then he comes back and has two touchdowns, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's still, you know, again, it all boils back together

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<v Speaker 1>where you have to have a consistent performance, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't have Darius Slay. The one thing that I

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<v Speaker 1>found peculiar and I mentioned this on Twitter, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if Matt I didn't see if Mat Patricia

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<v Speaker 1>addressed it after the game. Detroit went with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of prevent defense on that final series where Kansas City

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<v Speaker 1>ended up going down the field to not only you know,

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<v Speaker 1>take the you know, to tie the ball game up,

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<v Speaker 1>to take the lead at that point. Yeah, the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they only needed a field goal to tie and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously a touchdown to win, it was it was an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting defensive sequence and maybe the you know, the absence

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<v Speaker 1>of Slay or whatever the case was, if that's if

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was, I don't know. That was Wesson

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<v Speaker 1>don Hodkuwitz football in the back yard, give him five

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to make the throw and then you know eventually

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<v Speaker 1>you can rush. I mean they're going with a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of three man looks. There was one play I think

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<v Speaker 1>where they had a two man rush with two spies,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, if you're playing to protect a seven

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<v Speaker 1>point lead, I get that, you know, if the field

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<v Speaker 1>goal doesn't matter. But I mean all Kansas City needed

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<v Speaker 1>was the field goal. And in credit to Patrick Mahomes too,

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<v Speaker 1>when finally Detroit ended up going with an even man rush,

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to collapse the pocket pocket pocket, and

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<v Speaker 1>Mahome came out and just made a phenomenal pass. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, against some pressure that he found the receivers

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<v Speaker 1>he needs to. We founded Travis Kelsey and that one

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<v Speaker 1>and it was enough to find the victory. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're learning certainly through the first quarter of

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen season, and we've been talking about it all along.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think yester Day in a lot of ways

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed just how tough this NFC North is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be from start to finish this year. The Minnesota Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>going to Soldier Field, the Chicago Bears lose Mitchell Drabinsky,

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<v Speaker 1>they're starting quarterback on the opening drive of the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Chicago Bears defense just completely throttles Minnesota a

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<v Speaker 1>game that was sixteen to nothing until well into the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter before Minnesota got on the board, a sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to six final. An impressive victory. I don't care what

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<v Speaker 1>you want to say about how ugly it was. That

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<v Speaker 1>was an impressive victory by the Chicago Bears at home

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<v Speaker 1>against a division rival. And Minnesota now is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out, you know, can they take their show on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, because they've been really impressive in two home

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<v Speaker 1>victories and extremely underwhelming in two road losses, both to

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<v Speaker 1>division opponents. Yeah, Minnesota is definitely at a crossroads right

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<v Speaker 1>now because their defense, while still you know, good, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not to the level of where Chicago's at right now,

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<v Speaker 1>not at all. I also thought that, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>look at the strip sack that Khalil mac had. The

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<v Speaker 1>first thing that crossed my mind is it's like, that's

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<v Speaker 1>why David bat makes the big bucks. That's why Brian

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<v Speaker 1>Bulag I thought, as I've said numerous times now, is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly underrated. Riley Reef is not a nobody in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's played for a long time, he's established

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle. I mean, that's the commitment that the Vikings

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<v Speaker 1>made to him when they signed him two years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mac just made him look silly on that sack

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<v Speaker 1>of m Cousins. I thought that was interesting. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>realize all the fumbles loss that Kirk Cousins has through

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<v Speaker 1>the course of his career. I saw something. It was

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty seven or something like that. Goodness, some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hit and turnovers there. And the reason I say

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota's at a crossroads because they gotta fair what kind

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<v Speaker 1>of team they are. I mean, Adam Feeland after the

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<v Speaker 1>game was talking about one in passing offense right now,

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<v Speaker 1>just having a difficult time getting that going. Dalvin Cook

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<v Speaker 1>has had some really good performances. He gets bottled up

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<v Speaker 1>in this one and then also misses a crucial past

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<v Speaker 1>protection late that you know resulted a negative yardage and

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<v Speaker 1>a negative play for the Vikings as well. So well

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<v Speaker 1>and the and the Bears do this defensively without Rokuwan Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Kwikowski steps in as a backup inside linebacker, and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned the past protection with Dalvin Cook. This is why, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>this is why we talk about how difficult it is

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<v Speaker 1>for running backs coming from the college game to learn

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<v Speaker 1>how to pass protect and pick up blitzes in the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>because at the end of the day, a star running

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<v Speaker 1>back in college, maybe once or twice in his entire

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<v Speaker 1>college career, will he have to step up and block

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<v Speaker 1>a blitzing linebacker who's the caliber of an NFL player.

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<v Speaker 1>You get into the NFL, you have to do it

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<v Speaker 1>on a regular basis. And Dalvin Cook couldn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>against a backup linebacker. And there's nothing against Quitkowski, who's

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<v Speaker 1>played for the Bears for a number of years and

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<v Speaker 1>filled in admirably every time he's been asked to, but

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<v Speaker 1>he's not a starter. And the one time he completely

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<v Speaker 1>whipped Dalvin Cook for a sack and the other going

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<v Speaker 1>around him, I mean to say, and the other time

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<v Speaker 1>he just bull rushed him right back into the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>because couldn't set his feet and and uh and bow

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<v Speaker 1>up and make the block. It's tough duty, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we talk about it with young running backs coming

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<v Speaker 1>to the NFL. Coaches need to be able to trust

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<v Speaker 1>those guys to protect their quarterback against blitzing linebackers, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not an easy thing to do. I just this

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<v Speaker 1>is the thing I always kind of love about fans too,

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<v Speaker 1>and this isn't anything against Dexter Williams. Aaron Jones had

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<v Speaker 1>to answer the same questions back in two thousand seventeen. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>but fans are always like, why isn't Dexter Williams playing more?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn Aaron Jones play more in two thousand seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more to the position than just running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to protect, pass protect, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be able to be accountable on third downs.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to be able to go out and become

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<v Speaker 1>a pass catcher when you need to. And that's not

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<v Speaker 1>to say that Williams couldn't or Jones couldn't, but there

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<v Speaker 1>is equity built up in Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>in his third season, even you know Danny Vitally there

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<v Speaker 1>in his fourth season to be in those roles, to

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<v Speaker 1>be in those situations, because you just can't risk it

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<v Speaker 1>in those moments. You need to have your most experience

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<v Speaker 1>or most accountable play years, your veteran players on the field. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of times what happens is injuries will occur,

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's when a player gets thrown in the

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<v Speaker 1>spotlight and you really find out what they can do.

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<v Speaker 1>But until that moment arrives, it's very difficult to throw

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<v Speaker 1>someone out there that isn't ready for that moment, isn't

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<v Speaker 1>proven in that moment if you have the other options available.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's one of the things that to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, I think that the Vikings are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of learning this year where they don't have that Latavious Murray,

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<v Speaker 1>that that number two guy here in that spot where okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's you know, a veteran that can step up

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<v Speaker 1>in that situation. Because their number two guy, Madison is

0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.360
<v Speaker 1>younger than than Dalvin Cooks. So yeah, they're you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>right there in a there in an interesting spot there.

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<v Speaker 1>And as as Theland said, I mean Adam Theland had

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<v Speaker 1>what one catch for six yards or two catches for

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<v Speaker 1>six two catches for six yards? Which one zero? He

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<v Speaker 1>had a catch for zero yards? Yeah, I mean, um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Vikings we talked about it. Mike Zimmer wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to run the football. He wants to be

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<v Speaker 1>a run oriented offense. But a game like yesterday just

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<v Speaker 1>shows you if you if you cannot protect the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and you cannot establish any kind of a passing game

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, it's very difficult to win. And also,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta be remis if I didn't say this, Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel really stepped up in that game. A terrible injury

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<v Speaker 1>early on from Mitchell true Bisky did not look good.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see what exactly the m R S or whatnot

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<v Speaker 1>show with that. But the way that his uh, his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder kind of you know, move there, Yeah, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>It was an awkward deal for sure. So but Chase

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel has been playing in this league for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always felt like he's sort of one of those

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<v Speaker 1>underrated kind of backup quarterbacks. He's kind of had chances

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<v Speaker 1>to be a starter, but not really right. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he went to Philadelphia, they paid him a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they end up drafting Carson Wentz. They make

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<v Speaker 1>the moves that they did, and he ends up kind

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<v Speaker 1>of falling out their Kansas City Chiefs for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what, if you're in that position

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<v Speaker 1>and you feel like you're just the quarterback, a consistent

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback away from being a contender, you can do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot worse than Chase Daniel. I thought he really showed

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in that game, especially considering Chicago still hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been able to really get the running game going here,

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<v Speaker 1>even though they've been featuring David Montgomery the last few weeks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in better. Okay, as the week goes on, we'll obviously

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<v Speaker 1>talk a lot more about the Dallas Cowboys, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do think we need to address what happened in the

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<v Speaker 1>Superdome in New Orleans on Sunday Night football. The Cowboys

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get to four and oh and Ezekiel Elliott

0:14:38.640 --> 0:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>is shut down. The Dallas Cowboys offense really has one

0:14:44.080 --> 0:14:46.400
<v Speaker 1>drive opening the third quarter where they go down and

0:14:46.400 --> 0:14:51.640
<v Speaker 1>get a touchdown. But the New Orleans Saints with Teddy Bridgewater, uh,

0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:54.440
<v Speaker 1>they post the victory without even scoring a touchdown. They

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<v Speaker 1>get four field goals and win the game twelve to ten.

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<v Speaker 1>This is one of those results West that obviously the

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<v Speaker 1>Saints are going to be waiting another four or five

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<v Speaker 1>games whatever it is to get Drew Brees back. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of those results the Saints beating the

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys at home with Bridgewater at quarterback, that we might

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<v Speaker 1>be looking back on in December when we're looking at

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<v Speaker 1>playoff positioning and everything else. This could be a really,

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<v Speaker 1>really keyball game in the whole mix well, and it

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<v Speaker 1>shows one thing we talked so often about quarterback play

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<v Speaker 1>and without a shadow of a doubt, the New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>Saints are at their best when Drew Brees their quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>But getting back to that, Mike Spofford, let's be a

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<v Speaker 1>real moment of the week. This game is completely different

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<v Speaker 1>if that's the two thousand fifteen two thousand fourteen New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans Saints defense. Absolutely the job that they did against

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke Elliott. I mean, eighteen carries for thirty five yards

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<v Speaker 1>along of six and also a force fumble that was incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten had a fumble in that game that was lost.

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<v Speaker 1>Jason Witten has like eight career fumbles in twenty years.

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<v Speaker 1>Got the ball punched out from behind just the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they had tacked the ball. I'm just so impressed.

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<v Speaker 1>I know mars Shawn Lattimore has been kind of hit

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<v Speaker 1>or miss at points this year. But I thought he

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<v Speaker 1>played a pretty solid game. They just made it really

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<v Speaker 1>difficult on the Cowboys. And the one thing I learned

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<v Speaker 1>from that performances and again this is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>super Oh tell me something I don't already know. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are able to contain Ezekiel Elliott, that is the

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<v Speaker 1>domino that sets off everything for the Cowboys. It sets

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<v Speaker 1>off Prescott's play action, it sets off the downfield passing game.

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<v Speaker 1>The more people that you have to get committing to

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<v Speaker 1>the run, the better chances that the Cowboys offense is

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<v Speaker 1>really going to expand they had a very difficult time

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<v Speaker 1>doing that because they just were unable to get Elliott going.

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<v Speaker 1>Prescott didn't really have any big plays and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a dearth of touchdowns in this game. New

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<v Speaker 1>Orleans Saints credited him the first time the Sean Payton

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<v Speaker 1>era win a football game without its scoring without scoring

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown, and Teddy Bridgewater did exactly what he needed

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the weapons that he had to get

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<v Speaker 1>a victory. Yeah, this Saints team, to me is so

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<v Speaker 1>impressive what they're doing defensively and really their their history.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you, you go into that New Orleans Superdome

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<v Speaker 1>in a primetime game. I don't know what their winning

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<v Speaker 1>streak is or what their record is over the last

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<v Speaker 1>you know, even when they were a seven and nine

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<v Speaker 1>team for those couple of years there. If you have

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<v Speaker 1>to play in the Superdome in prime time, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be the toughest road assignment in the NFL. They're they're

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<v Speaker 1>winning percentage in home night games is u is astounding.

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<v Speaker 1>And they did it again. And the Cowboys, who everybody

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<v Speaker 1>was questioning them because of their first three games, the

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<v Speaker 1>sch the schedule that they had beating the Giants before

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants turned it over to Daniel Jones at quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Redskins, who don't have any wins this year.

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<v Speaker 1>They beat the Dolphins, who don't have any wins yet

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<v Speaker 1>this year, so that everybody was criticizing the Cowboys, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys are saying, Okay, we're gonna come out and

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<v Speaker 1>prove you know who we are. And then they go

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<v Speaker 1>into New Orleans and score only ten points and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and they're sitting at three and one just like the Packers,

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<v Speaker 1>which really sets up an intriguing matchup um at a

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<v Speaker 1>T and T Stadium on Sunday, a pair of three

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<v Speaker 1>and one teams that both feel like they should have

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<v Speaker 1>could have gotten to four and oh, but they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And now you're looking at the difference between

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<v Speaker 1>four and one or three and two for these two

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<v Speaker 1>ball clubs, and there's a massive hole potentially there for Dallas,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on what happens with Tyron Smith. Right at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the game the game, Jerry Jones telling the

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<v Speaker 1>reporters and afterwards it's a high ankle spring. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have to see exactly how the week plays out with Smith.

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<v Speaker 1>But Fleming was the one I think that stepped in

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<v Speaker 1>there at the end. That's the thing. I mean. Tyron

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<v Speaker 1>Smith is still at twenty years old, is still one

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<v Speaker 1>of the pre eminent left tackles in this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason he's unable to go or is severely

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<v Speaker 1>limited by that. That is going to be a big

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<v Speaker 1>question mark for Dallas going into this game. I know

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<v Speaker 1>Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith last week, they're disappointed they

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get to the house. But if Smith is, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's Smith isn't there for that, we had to deal

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of Smith's here this this week. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be problematic. Yeah, I mean, and uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those. And I know we'll talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>later in the week, but the type of game that

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<v Speaker 1>Elliott is coming off of, you have to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>the emphasis and practice for the Cowboys is gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>everything it takes to get Elliott going against the Packers. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers have shown their leaks in run defense, and

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<v Speaker 1>you said it earlier that Elliott and what he does

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<v Speaker 1>on the ground is, uh, you know, is the key

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<v Speaker 1>to open the door to everything else in this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>The passes to Cooper, the passes to Wit, and the

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<v Speaker 1>passes over the middle to Randall Cobb coming out of

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<v Speaker 1>the slot. All of that is predicated on on Elliott

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<v Speaker 1>getting defenses to pay so much attention to him in

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<v Speaker 1>order to prevent him from controlling things. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>type of game that the Cowboys are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>focused on getting back to with a Packers defense that

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<v Speaker 1>struggled to stop the run coming into Dallas. Yeah, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>And Elliott, I mean you have to imagine he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to just be champing at the bit trying to come

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<v Speaker 1>back and have a solid performance after that. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>other thing I want to mention too, and again we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get a chance to talk about the actual preview

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<v Speaker 1>later this week. But Elvin Kamara didn't have the type

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<v Speaker 1>of game that it's like, Okay, it's gonna jump off

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<v Speaker 1>the page. That was a quintessential Elvin Kamara game, but

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<v Speaker 1>he was effective enough where they needed him to be effective.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll have to see how this week shuffles out for

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers. Certainly, Jamal Williams ended up going to the

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<v Speaker 1>hospital was you know, scene overnight for observation, but had

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty funny little moment with the nurse saying that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she wanted to listen to his stomach, and

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Jones recounted this where he's like, you just want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you know, I don't even hungry I am

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<v Speaker 1>right now. However it was he said it in his

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<v Speaker 1>Jamal Williams voice. Um, you know, we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 1>see what Jamal Williams availability is. But what God, regardless

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:52.000
<v Speaker 1>of what his outlook is, I think Aaron Jones, potentially

0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:54.840
<v Speaker 1>Danny Vitally, those guys are going to be critical in

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<v Speaker 1>this matchup because Dallas's defense is pretty darn good to

0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Jay and Smith is an incredible inside linebacker in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's funny to me, Mike that we are now

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<v Speaker 1>at a point in time where Sean Lee is a

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<v Speaker 1>rotational player. I remember a time where Shaun Lee was

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<v Speaker 1>their only defensive player that like, if you brought him

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<v Speaker 1>up on a depth chart, that was the only guy

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<v Speaker 1>you looked at when Yeah, he scares me. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>if he was injured and out of the game, you

0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.520
<v Speaker 1>felt like you could score thirty five points against the

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboy And that that is no longer the case.

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<v Speaker 1>And they have vander esh I mean, they have so

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<v Speaker 1>many talented linebackers there regardless. Will see exactly what happens

0:21:32.720 --> 0:21:34.520
<v Speaker 1>with Jamal Williams. You hope for the best for him.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever combination of running backs it is, it is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be critical for the Packers to be getting

0:21:40.680 --> 0:21:43.040
<v Speaker 1>those guys going against that defensive front. Yeah. And I

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<v Speaker 1>tell you just one quick thought that Alvin Kamara. That

0:21:46.640 --> 0:21:49.280
<v Speaker 1>guy is so slippery it's incredible. He is so he

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>is so tough to tackle. He's he's whether Drew Brees

0:21:53.000 --> 0:21:55.120
<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the Saints or not, Like, it is fun

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.080
<v Speaker 1>to watch the Saints just for when that guy gets

0:21:57.080 --> 0:21:59.600
<v Speaker 1>the ball in his hands because he's something else. And someday,

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<v Speaker 1>if we're talking, you know, you and I are doing

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<v Speaker 1>this in twenty years or whatever, and he's going into Canton.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be like Mike Spofford was the first one

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Alvin Kamara is going to be a player

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<v Speaker 1>in this league, man, and he has held something else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely underdrafted for what he has produced thus far in

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<v Speaker 1>his NFL career, but we gotta go, so with that,

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