Speaker 1: Hi everyone, Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com.
Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my partner in crime,
Speaker 1: West had Kuwitz. Were coming to you here from our
Speaker 1: studios at lambeau Field and West. It's a Monday. The
Speaker 1: Packers obviously did not play over the weekend. The message
Speaker 1: from head coach Matt Lafleur as he dismissed his players
Speaker 1: and coaches for a weekend off after a tough Thursday
Speaker 1: night loss to the Philadelphia Eagles pretty simple in that
Speaker 1: you have to turn the page. I believe the phrase
Speaker 1: he used was hit the reset button, because as frustrating
Speaker 1: as the loss was, you have chances by the goal line,
Speaker 1: and you lose the turnover battle and all of these
Speaker 1: other things that went into it. You have to hit
Speaker 1: that reset button and move on because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of football left to be played. Yeah, I thought, least
Speaker 1: you know, yesterday in particular showed you where the Packers
Speaker 1: sit right now, three and one going into the second
Speaker 1: quarter of the season. That's a pretty good position to
Speaker 1: be in right now in the NFC. And it's tough
Speaker 1: because you know, and I know fans get like this
Speaker 1: to have already started to answer some Insider Inbox questions
Speaker 1: before we tape the show for what will be Tuesday's
Speaker 1: Insider Inbox, and everyone's so reactionary, you know, wins and losses.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest thing ever's the worst thing ever. The
Speaker 1: thing that always surprises me is that, and I think
Speaker 1: media myself is included in this very It's all about consistency,
Speaker 1: right the entire season is you know, the best teams
Speaker 1: that make the playoffs are the most consistent ones. It's
Speaker 1: very difficult just to dominate every single week in this league.
Speaker 1: It's not n c A football where if you're top
Speaker 1: five team in the country, you're just expected to blow
Speaker 1: everyone out. I mean, you had Baltimore looking like they're
Speaker 1: just going to be world beaters and destroying everybody, and
Speaker 1: then they go and have the performance that they did
Speaker 1: against Cleveland, and Cleveland was the worst team in the world,
Speaker 1: and now they're back at two and two. So from
Speaker 1: the Packers, you just have to look at everything at
Speaker 1: a high macro level. Right now you're three and one.
Speaker 1: You're gonna going into a tough environment in Dallas, no
Speaker 1: question about that. But now the Cowboys are coming off
Speaker 1: of a really close loss. So all those things, paired
Speaker 1: together are what makes the league so great. And it's
Speaker 1: also about showing which teams can weekend and week out,
Speaker 1: you know, find the way to win, regardless of whether
Speaker 1: everything goes correctly or not. Yeah, and shortly after we
Speaker 1: get done taping this episode, the Packers will be hitting
Speaker 1: the practice field for an unusual Monday practice, obviously the
Speaker 1: players coming back from the weekend. It'll be a short
Speaker 1: workout and getting ready for that Week five trip to Dallas.
Speaker 1: As the week goes along, we will see what the
Speaker 1: injury updates are with regards to Davante Adams and his toe,
Speaker 1: and Brian Blaga and his shoulder, and Kevin King and
Speaker 1: his growing Those are three prominent starters obviously in the
Speaker 1: Packers lineup that we will see how the week unfolds
Speaker 1: with them. But you said it was as I packed
Speaker 1: up my things and went to bed last night after
Speaker 1: kind of absorbing a day of NFL football, I think
Speaker 1: what struck me because it applies to the Packers and
Speaker 1: what happened on Thursday night against the Eagles. It's just
Speaker 1: how hard it is to get to four and oh
Speaker 1: in this league. I mean, you look at what happened?
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams give up fifty five points at home,
Speaker 1: so they don't get to four. And oh, the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots got all they could handle from the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Bills and win by six, partly thanks to a blocked
Speaker 1: punt for a touchdown and knocking the starting quarterback for
Speaker 1: the Bills out of the game and the backup ends
Speaker 1: up throwing an interception in the end zone. So New
Speaker 1: England survives and gets to four. No, the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs get all they can handle from the Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: They barely survive on a touchdown with twenty seconds left
Speaker 1: to get to four. And oh, it's not an easy
Speaker 1: thing to do. And as you said at the outset
Speaker 1: three and one at the quarter pool, there's absolutely nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that. And right now in the NFC, nobody
Speaker 1: he has more than three victories. The only undefeated team
Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty Niners at three and oh
Speaker 1: because they were on a bye week. Yeah, absolutely, and
Speaker 1: and and we're gonna talk about some of these Sunday
Speaker 1: games here in a minute. But I thought the Kansas
Speaker 1: City game against Detroit showed you exactly where the bar
Speaker 1: is and It's weird because Kansas City, that is not
Speaker 1: going to be a performance at Andy Reid and those
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna put up as this is one of
Speaker 1: our best that we've ever had. But in an environment
Speaker 1: like Ford Field, you and I have been there how
Speaker 1: many times now, Mike, when you get that energy, they
Speaker 1: get that crowd excited. How difficult it is to pull
Speaker 1: back in Patrick Mahomes. Despite the fact he didn't throw
Speaker 1: a touchdown pass in that game, only the fourth time
Speaker 1: in his career that that's happened, they still found a
Speaker 1: path to victory late. That's what it takes to be
Speaker 1: a four oh team. And it's also underrated because it's
Speaker 1: such a tough, bitter taste in your mode to end September.
Speaker 1: But the Packers did a lot of solid things to
Speaker 1: get to three and one at this point, defensively, offensively,
Speaker 1: special teams. It's just it's trying to make sure that
Speaker 1: you shore up the leaks that showed in that game
Speaker 1: against Philadelphia get back on track now going into Dallas. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: looking at the NFC North, the Lions certainly having just
Speaker 1: as many regrets about their home loss to Kansas City
Speaker 1: as the Packers are with their home loss to the Eagles,
Speaker 1: because the Lions had I mean, my goodness, they have
Speaker 1: a touchdown overturned by replay, and then on the next
Speaker 1: play it's a sack fumble and they lose the ball.
Speaker 1: And then later on you have a running back who
Speaker 1: coughs it up at the goal line and the Kansas
Speaker 1: City Chiefs pick it up and run all the way
Speaker 1: down in the field for a defensive touchdown. And at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, the final score of that
Speaker 1: game is thirty four to thirty in in favor of
Speaker 1: Kansas City. And uh, the Lions are looking at this
Speaker 1: same boy, they were. They were right there to get
Speaker 1: to three oh and one and actually be on top
Speaker 1: of the NFC North at the quarter pole with the
Speaker 1: Packers and the Bears at three and one, with Chicago
Speaker 1: knocking off Minnesota. Yeah, and and the Lions again shows
Speaker 1: you how you really can't or predict anything week to
Speaker 1: week in this league, not only from how tough they
Speaker 1: played Kansas City. You give credit to them for that
Speaker 1: they were to to oh and one. I think you know,
Speaker 1: even if you didn't expect the Lions win the game,
Speaker 1: you expected them to have a really good performance. But
Speaker 1: they end up getting a rushing yards from Carrie on
Speaker 1: Johnson after they really haven't been able to establish the
Speaker 1: run very well during their first three victories. Kenny Gallady,
Speaker 1: who was shut down completely a week before in a win,
Speaker 1: well then he comes back and has two touchdowns, but
Speaker 1: it's still, you know, again, it all boils back together
Speaker 1: where you have to have a consistent performance, even though
Speaker 1: they didn't have Darius Slay. The one thing that I
Speaker 1: found peculiar and I mentioned this on Twitter, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if Matt I didn't see if Mat Patricia
Speaker 1: addressed it after the game. Detroit went with a lot
Speaker 1: of prevent defense on that final series where Kansas City
Speaker 1: ended up going down the field to not only you know,
Speaker 1: take the you know, to tie the ball game up,
Speaker 1: to take the lead at that point. Yeah, the fact
Speaker 1: that they only needed a field goal to tie and
Speaker 1: obviously a touchdown to win, it was it was an
Speaker 1: interesting defensive sequence and maybe the you know, the absence
Speaker 1: of Slay or whatever the case was, if that's if
Speaker 1: that's what it was, I don't know. That was Wesson
Speaker 1: don Hodkuwitz football in the back yard, give him five
Speaker 1: seconds to make the throw and then you know eventually
Speaker 1: you can rush. I mean they're going with a lot
Speaker 1: of three man looks. There was one play I think
Speaker 1: where they had a two man rush with two spies,
Speaker 1: and you know, if you're playing to protect a seven
Speaker 1: point lead, I get that, you know, if the field
Speaker 1: goal doesn't matter. But I mean all Kansas City needed
Speaker 1: was the field goal. And in credit to Patrick Mahomes too,
Speaker 1: when finally Detroit ended up going with an even man rush,
Speaker 1: they were able to collapse the pocket pocket pocket, and
Speaker 1: Mahome came out and just made a phenomenal pass. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, against some pressure that he found the receivers
Speaker 1: he needs to. We founded Travis Kelsey and that one
Speaker 1: and it was enough to find the victory. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: I think we're learning certainly through the first quarter of
Speaker 1: the nineteen season, and we've been talking about it all along.
Speaker 1: But I think yester Day in a lot of ways
Speaker 1: confirmed just how tough this NFC North is going to
Speaker 1: be from start to finish this year. The Minnesota Vikings
Speaker 1: going to Soldier Field, the Chicago Bears lose Mitchell Drabinsky,
Speaker 1: they're starting quarterback on the opening drive of the game,
Speaker 1: and the Chicago Bears defense just completely throttles Minnesota a
Speaker 1: game that was sixteen to nothing until well into the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter before Minnesota got on the board, a sixteen
Speaker 1: to six final. An impressive victory. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you want to say about how ugly it was. That
Speaker 1: was an impressive victory by the Chicago Bears at home
Speaker 1: against a division rival. And Minnesota now is trying to
Speaker 1: figure out, you know, can they take their show on
Speaker 1: the road, because they've been really impressive in two home
Speaker 1: victories and extremely underwhelming in two road losses, both to
Speaker 1: division opponents. Yeah, Minnesota is definitely at a crossroads right
Speaker 1: now because their defense, while still you know, good, it's
Speaker 1: not to the level of where Chicago's at right now,
Speaker 1: not at all. I also thought that, you know, you
Speaker 1: look at the strip sack that Khalil mac had. The
Speaker 1: first thing that crossed my mind is it's like, that's
Speaker 1: why David bat makes the big bucks. That's why Brian
Speaker 1: Bulag I thought, as I've said numerous times now, is
Speaker 1: incredibly underrated. Riley Reef is not a nobody in this league.
Speaker 1: I mean he's played for a long time, he's established
Speaker 1: left tackle. I mean, that's the commitment that the Vikings
Speaker 1: made to him when they signed him two years ago,
Speaker 1: and Mac just made him look silly on that sack
Speaker 1: of m Cousins. I thought that was interesting. I didn't
Speaker 1: realize all the fumbles loss that Kirk Cousins has through
Speaker 1: the course of his career. I saw something. It was
Speaker 1: like twenty seven or something like that. Goodness, some kind
Speaker 1: of hit and turnovers there. And the reason I say
Speaker 1: Minnesota's at a crossroads because they gotta fair what kind
Speaker 1: of team they are. I mean, Adam Feeland after the
Speaker 1: game was talking about one in passing offense right now,
Speaker 1: just having a difficult time getting that going. Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: has had some really good performances. He gets bottled up
Speaker 1: in this one and then also misses a crucial past
Speaker 1: protection late that you know resulted a negative yardage and
Speaker 1: a negative play for the Vikings as well. So well
Speaker 1: and the and the Bears do this defensively without Rokuwan Smith.
Speaker 1: Nick Kwikowski steps in as a backup inside linebacker, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned the past protection with Dalvin Cook. This is why, folks,
Speaker 1: this is why we talk about how difficult it is
Speaker 1: for running backs coming from the college game to learn
Speaker 1: how to pass protect and pick up blitzes in the NFL,
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, a star running
Speaker 1: back in college, maybe once or twice in his entire
Speaker 1: college career, will he have to step up and block
Speaker 1: a blitzing linebacker who's the caliber of an NFL player.
Speaker 1: You get into the NFL, you have to do it
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. And Dalvin Cook couldn't do it
Speaker 1: against a backup linebacker. And there's nothing against Quitkowski, who's
Speaker 1: played for the Bears for a number of years and
Speaker 1: filled in admirably every time he's been asked to, but
Speaker 1: he's not a starter. And the one time he completely
Speaker 1: whipped Dalvin Cook for a sack and the other going
Speaker 1: around him, I mean to say, and the other time
Speaker 1: he just bull rushed him right back into the quarterback
Speaker 1: because couldn't set his feet and and uh and bow
Speaker 1: up and make the block. It's tough duty, and that's
Speaker 1: why we talk about it with young running backs coming
Speaker 1: to the NFL. Coaches need to be able to trust
Speaker 1: those guys to protect their quarterback against blitzing linebackers, and
Speaker 1: it's not an easy thing to do. I just this
Speaker 1: is the thing I always kind of love about fans too,
Speaker 1: and this isn't anything against Dexter Williams. Aaron Jones had
Speaker 1: to answer the same questions back in two thousand seventeen. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: but fans are always like, why isn't Dexter Williams playing more?
Speaker 1: Why didn Aaron Jones play more in two thousand seventeen.
Speaker 1: There's more to the position than just running the ball.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to protect, pass protect, you
Speaker 1: have to be able to be accountable on third downs.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to go out and become
Speaker 1: a pass catcher when you need to. And that's not
Speaker 1: to say that Williams couldn't or Jones couldn't, but there
Speaker 1: is equity built up in Jamal Williams and Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: in his third season, even you know Danny Vitally there
Speaker 1: in his fourth season to be in those roles, to
Speaker 1: be in those situations, because you just can't risk it
Speaker 1: in those moments. You need to have your most experience
Speaker 1: or most accountable play years, your veteran players on the field. Now.
Speaker 1: A lot of times what happens is injuries will occur,
Speaker 1: and then that's when a player gets thrown in the
Speaker 1: spotlight and you really find out what they can do.
Speaker 1: But until that moment arrives, it's very difficult to throw
Speaker 1: someone out there that isn't ready for that moment, isn't
Speaker 1: proven in that moment if you have the other options available.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that to be
Speaker 1: honest with you, I think that the Vikings are kind
Speaker 1: of learning this year where they don't have that Latavious Murray,
Speaker 1: that that number two guy here in that spot where okay,
Speaker 1: that's that's you know, a veteran that can step up
Speaker 1: in that situation. Because their number two guy, Madison is
Speaker 1: younger than than Dalvin Cooks. So yeah, they're you're you're
Speaker 1: right there in a there in an interesting spot there.
Speaker 1: And as as Theland said, I mean Adam Theland had
Speaker 1: what one catch for six yards or two catches for
Speaker 1: six two catches for six yards? Which one zero? He
Speaker 1: had a catch for zero yards? Yeah, I mean, um,
Speaker 1: the Vikings we talked about it. Mike Zimmer wants to
Speaker 1: be able to run the football. He wants to be
Speaker 1: a run oriented offense. But a game like yesterday just
Speaker 1: shows you if you if you cannot protect the quarterback
Speaker 1: and you cannot establish any kind of a passing game
Speaker 1: in the NFL, it's very difficult to win. And also,
Speaker 1: I gotta be remis if I didn't say this, Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel really stepped up in that game. A terrible injury
Speaker 1: early on from Mitchell true Bisky did not look good.
Speaker 1: We'll see what exactly the m R S or whatnot
Speaker 1: show with that. But the way that his uh, his
Speaker 1: shoulder kind of you know, move there, Yeah, it wasn't
Speaker 1: It was an awkward deal for sure. So but Chase
Speaker 1: Daniel has been playing in this league for a long time.
Speaker 1: I've always felt like he's sort of one of those
Speaker 1: underrated kind of backup quarterbacks. He's kind of had chances
Speaker 1: to be a starter, but not really right. I mean,
Speaker 1: he went to Philadelphia, they paid him a lot of money,
Speaker 1: but then they end up drafting Carson Wentz. They make
Speaker 1: the moves that they did, and he ends up kind
Speaker 1: of falling out their Kansas City Chiefs for a while.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you what, if you're in that position
Speaker 1: and you feel like you're just the quarterback, a consistent
Speaker 1: quarterback away from being a contender, you can do a
Speaker 1: lot worse than Chase Daniel. I thought he really showed
Speaker 1: a lot in that game, especially considering Chicago still hasn't
Speaker 1: been able to really get the running game going here,
Speaker 1: even though they've been featuring David Montgomery the last few weeks. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: in better. Okay, as the week goes on, we'll obviously
Speaker 1: talk a lot more about the Dallas Cowboys, but I
Speaker 1: do think we need to address what happened in the
Speaker 1: Superdome in New Orleans on Sunday Night football. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: trying to get to four and oh and Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: is shut down. The Dallas Cowboys offense really has one
Speaker 1: drive opening the third quarter where they go down and
Speaker 1: get a touchdown. But the New Orleans Saints with Teddy Bridgewater, uh,
Speaker 1: they post the victory without even scoring a touchdown. They
Speaker 1: get four field goals and win the game twelve to ten.
Speaker 1: This is one of those results West that obviously the
Speaker 1: Saints are going to be waiting another four or five
Speaker 1: games whatever it is to get Drew Brees back. But
Speaker 1: this is one of those results the Saints beating the
Speaker 1: Cowboys at home with Bridgewater at quarterback, that we might
Speaker 1: be looking back on in December when we're looking at
Speaker 1: playoff positioning and everything else. This could be a really,
Speaker 1: really keyball game in the whole mix well, and it
Speaker 1: shows one thing we talked so often about quarterback play
Speaker 1: and without a shadow of a doubt, the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Saints are at their best when Drew Brees their quarterback.
Speaker 1: But getting back to that, Mike Spofford, let's be a
Speaker 1: real moment of the week. This game is completely different
Speaker 1: if that's the two thousand fifteen two thousand fourteen New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints defense. Absolutely the job that they did against
Speaker 1: Zeke Elliott. I mean, eighteen carries for thirty five yards
Speaker 1: along of six and also a force fumble that was incredible.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten had a fumble in that game that was lost.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten has like eight career fumbles in twenty years.
Speaker 1: Got the ball punched out from behind just the way
Speaker 1: that they had tacked the ball. I'm just so impressed.
Speaker 1: I know mars Shawn Lattimore has been kind of hit
Speaker 1: or miss at points this year. But I thought he
Speaker 1: played a pretty solid game. They just made it really
Speaker 1: difficult on the Cowboys. And the one thing I learned
Speaker 1: from that performances and again this is going to be
Speaker 1: super Oh tell me something I don't already know. If
Speaker 1: you are able to contain Ezekiel Elliott, that is the
Speaker 1: domino that sets off everything for the Cowboys. It sets
Speaker 1: off Prescott's play action, it sets off the downfield passing game.
Speaker 1: The more people that you have to get committing to
Speaker 1: the run, the better chances that the Cowboys offense is
Speaker 1: really going to expand they had a very difficult time
Speaker 1: doing that because they just were unable to get Elliott going.
Speaker 1: Prescott didn't really have any big plays and you know,
Speaker 1: there was a dearth of touchdowns in this game. New
Speaker 1: Orleans Saints credited him the first time the Sean Payton
Speaker 1: era win a football game without its scoring without scoring
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and Teddy Bridgewater did exactly what he needed
Speaker 1: to do with the weapons that he had to get
Speaker 1: a victory. Yeah, this Saints team, to me is so
Speaker 1: impressive what they're doing defensively and really their their history.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, you go into that New Orleans Superdome
Speaker 1: in a primetime game. I don't know what their winning
Speaker 1: streak is or what their record is over the last
Speaker 1: you know, even when they were a seven and nine
Speaker 1: team for those couple of years there. If you have
Speaker 1: to play in the Superdome in prime time, that might
Speaker 1: be the toughest road assignment in the NFL. They're they're
Speaker 1: winning percentage in home night games is u is astounding.
Speaker 1: And they did it again. And the Cowboys, who everybody
Speaker 1: was questioning them because of their first three games, the
Speaker 1: sch the schedule that they had beating the Giants before
Speaker 1: the Giants turned it over to Daniel Jones at quarterback.
Speaker 1: They beat the Redskins, who don't have any wins this year.
Speaker 1: They beat the Dolphins, who don't have any wins yet
Speaker 1: this year, so that everybody was criticizing the Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are saying, Okay, we're gonna come out and
Speaker 1: prove you know who we are. And then they go
Speaker 1: into New Orleans and score only ten points and uh
Speaker 1: and they're sitting at three and one just like the Packers,
Speaker 1: which really sets up an intriguing matchup um at a
Speaker 1: T and T Stadium on Sunday, a pair of three
Speaker 1: and one teams that both feel like they should have
Speaker 1: could have gotten to four and oh, but they didn't
Speaker 1: do it. And now you're looking at the difference between
Speaker 1: four and one or three and two for these two
Speaker 1: ball clubs, and there's a massive hole potentially there for Dallas,
Speaker 1: depending on what happens with Tyron Smith. Right at the
Speaker 1: end of the game the game, Jerry Jones telling the
Speaker 1: reporters and afterwards it's a high ankle spring. So we
Speaker 1: have to see exactly how the week plays out with Smith.
Speaker 1: But Fleming was the one I think that stepped in
Speaker 1: there at the end. That's the thing. I mean. Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith is still at twenty years old, is still one
Speaker 1: of the pre eminent left tackles in this game, and
Speaker 1: for whatever reason he's unable to go or is severely
Speaker 1: limited by that. That is going to be a big
Speaker 1: question mark for Dallas going into this game. I know
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith and Preston Smith last week, they're disappointed they
Speaker 1: didn't get to the house. But if Smith is, if
Speaker 1: that's Smith isn't there for that, we had to deal
Speaker 1: a lot of Smith's here this this week. That's going
Speaker 1: to be problematic. Yeah, I mean, and uh, this is
Speaker 1: one of those. And I know we'll talk about this
Speaker 1: later in the week, but the type of game that
Speaker 1: Elliott is coming off of, you have to believe that
Speaker 1: the emphasis and practice for the Cowboys is gonna be
Speaker 1: everything it takes to get Elliott going against the Packers. Certainly,
Speaker 1: the Packers have shown their leaks in run defense, and
Speaker 1: you said it earlier that Elliott and what he does
Speaker 1: on the ground is, uh, you know, is the key
Speaker 1: to open the door to everything else in this offense.
Speaker 1: The passes to Cooper, the passes to Wit, and the
Speaker 1: passes over the middle to Randall Cobb coming out of
Speaker 1: the slot. All of that is predicated on on Elliott
Speaker 1: getting defenses to pay so much attention to him in
Speaker 1: order to prevent him from controlling things. And that's the
Speaker 1: type of game that the Cowboys are going to be
Speaker 1: focused on getting back to with a Packers defense that
Speaker 1: struggled to stop the run coming into Dallas. Yeah, definitely.
Speaker 1: And Elliott, I mean you have to imagine he's going
Speaker 1: to just be champing at the bit trying to come
Speaker 1: back and have a solid performance after that. Um, the
Speaker 1: other thing I want to mention too, and again we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to talk about the actual preview
Speaker 1: later this week. But Elvin Kamara didn't have the type
Speaker 1: of game that it's like, Okay, it's gonna jump off
Speaker 1: the page. That was a quintessential Elvin Kamara game, but
Speaker 1: he was effective enough where they needed him to be effective.
Speaker 1: We'll have to see how this week shuffles out for
Speaker 1: the Packers. Certainly, Jamal Williams ended up going to the
Speaker 1: hospital was you know, scene overnight for observation, but had
Speaker 1: a pretty funny little moment with the nurse saying that,
Speaker 1: you know, she wanted to listen to his stomach, and
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones recounted this where he's like, you just want
Speaker 1: to see you know, I don't even hungry I am
Speaker 1: right now. However it was he said it in his
Speaker 1: Jamal Williams voice. Um, you know, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: see what Jamal Williams availability is. But what God, regardless
Speaker 1: of what his outlook is, I think Aaron Jones, potentially
Speaker 1: Danny Vitally, those guys are going to be critical in
Speaker 1: this matchup because Dallas's defense is pretty darn good to
Speaker 1: Jay and Smith is an incredible inside linebacker in this league.
Speaker 1: It's it's funny to me, Mike that we are now
Speaker 1: at a point in time where Sean Lee is a
Speaker 1: rotational player. I remember a time where Shaun Lee was
Speaker 1: their only defensive player that like, if you brought him
Speaker 1: up on a depth chart, that was the only guy
Speaker 1: you looked at when Yeah, he scares me. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if he was injured and out of the game, you
Speaker 1: felt like you could score thirty five points against the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy And that that is no longer the case.
Speaker 1: And they have vander esh I mean, they have so
Speaker 1: many talented linebackers there regardless. Will see exactly what happens
Speaker 1: with Jamal Williams. You hope for the best for him.
Speaker 1: But whatever combination of running backs it is, it is
Speaker 1: going to be critical for the Packers to be getting
Speaker 1: those guys going against that defensive front. Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: tell you just one quick thought that Alvin Kamara. That
Speaker 1: guy is so slippery it's incredible. He is so he
Speaker 1: is so tough to tackle. He's he's whether Drew Brees
Speaker 1: quarterback in the Saints or not, Like, it is fun
Speaker 1: to watch the Saints just for when that guy gets
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands because he's something else. And someday,
Speaker 1: if we're talking, you know, you and I are doing
Speaker 1: this in twenty years or whatever, and he's going into Canton.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be like Mike Spofford was the first one
Speaker 1: to say, Alvin Kamara is going to be a player
Speaker 1: in this league, man, and he has held something else. Yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely underdrafted for what he has produced thus far in
Speaker 1: his NFL career, but we gotta go, so with that,
Speaker 1: we'll call it a wrap on this edition of Packers
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