1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Hey, this is em This is John, your og Okay 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Storytime podcast host, and we got some delicious, juicy stories 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: coming up. 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 2: But if you want to hear that deliciousness, you know, 5 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 2: just stick around for a two minute break with a 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: word from our sponsors. 7 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 3: My friend's wife accused me of flirting with him. She 8 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 3: embarrassed me in front of everyone. 9 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 4: Oh nos, so good. 10 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 3: I'm so embarrassed right now. But I do not think 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 3: I did anything wrong. Let me explain the situation. I've 12 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 3: had the same mutual friend group since I graduated college 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 3: three years ago. It's a group of people I met 14 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: through my best friend Jenna female twenty five, who was 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,480 Speaker 3: my sorority sister in college. Included in the friend group 16 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 3: is her older brother male twenty nine, Joe and his wife, Diana, 17 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 3: female twenty eight. I considered both them my friends too, 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,639 Speaker 3: but would say I was closer to Joe as he's 19 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 3: Jenna's brother. By the way, this comes from direct Caterpillar 20 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: seventy seven on the Okay Storytime suppared it. So, Diana 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 3: hosted a birthday dinner for Joe over the weekend. Our 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: mutual friends were there, but so is Jenna and his family. 23 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 3: I was happy to get to know some of the 24 00:01:01,480 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 3: people I hadn't met. I know his parents well and 25 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: caught up with him too. Diana and Joe also had 26 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: a child recently, and I did see him a few times. 27 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,759 Speaker 3: He's adorable. When we were sitting down after dinner, Diana 28 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 3: freaked out on me. She yelled at me in front 29 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: of everyone to stop flirting with her husband, stopped touching him, 30 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: and did not come into her house and be disrespectful. 31 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: Whoa wow o, whoa. 32 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: That's a big accusation. 33 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and making a scene out of it too. Yeah. 34 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 3: People got quiet after this before my best friends started 35 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 3: talking about something else. I left shortly after. I wouldn't 36 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: want to stay. I'm gonna go cry. I truly don't 37 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 3: think I did anything disrespectful throughout the night. I of 38 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 3: course talked to the birthday boy a lot. Everyone was 39 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 3: I didn't remember touching him too much, but it was 40 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: close quarters, so I did brush up against him a 41 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 3: few times. I did give him a big hug when 42 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: I saw him, and later when I gave him his gift. 43 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 3: That's it, Jenna, and she said that I should talk 44 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 3: to Diana and Joe about it, but that I should 45 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 3: keep my distance from him for now, because she's never 46 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 3: seen Diana this angry. I was supposed to attend their parents' 47 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: anniversary party, but she told me that wouldn't be a 48 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: good idea right now. I am a very friendly person, 49 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 3: but I respect people's personal boundaries. If anyone had an 50 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 3: issue before, they could have mentioned it to me. I 51 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 3: have not changed this in the past three years since 52 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:26,279 Speaker 3: I've met both Joe and Diana. I am so embarrassed 53 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 3: that she basically accused me of trying to sleep with 54 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 3: her husband in front of all of her friends and 55 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 3: his family. I feel like I can't show my face now. 56 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: And there are some relevant comments. Dapple Gray says, do 57 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: you value salvaging your relationship with this woman? If so, 58 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 3: I give her a call and ask for a brunch 59 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: or coffee or some girls outing thing and explain to 60 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 3: her that you're really not into her guy, sorry that 61 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: you came off that way, how horrible it must have felt, 62 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 3: et cetera, etc. Showing empathy is the best way to 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 3: get people to soften up once you reach an understanding, 64 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 3: tell her that what she did was really jar for 65 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: you and hurt your reputation, and ask her to fix it. 66 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 3: Since she's the one that damaged it, she needs to 67 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 3: tell other people that she had the wrong idea and 68 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 3: clean up her own mess. I know it's a tall 69 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 3: order and most won't do this, but this would be, 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 3: in theory, the proper way to repair the relationship so 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: that everyone's happy and all the pieces are picked up. 72 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 3: An OP response, yes, because if I'm not good with her, 73 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: then I won't be good with Joe or his family 74 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: or his close friends. They were looking at me like 75 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:28,839 Speaker 3: I had five heads after she yelled at me. When 76 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 3: I left, His mom said that's for the best. Ooh, 77 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: Like these are people she's known forever. 78 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: Right, and everyone's just like believing her. 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: I asked Jenna today if she thinks she would apologize, 80 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 3: and she said not to expect that and to better 81 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: respect boundaries. I don't know, OPI says. Joe hasn't talked 82 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: to me since and didn't respond to my texts. No 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: one is going to apologize to me, and I didn't 84 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: do anything wrong. I feel like I'm in an alternate 85 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 3: universe right now. No one has ever complained about how 86 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 3: I act. Jenna all but told me not to attend 87 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 3: the party. I really want to go, I say, do 88 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 3: not have family near me and her parents have treated 89 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: me well, I don't know if I should push that 90 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 3: or not. And there is an update from Ope, But 91 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: what do you think? 92 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 2: I really am still stuck on, like I feel like 93 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 2: I want to see the other sides. 94 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 3: I believe you Ope. 95 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 2: Like everyone turning on you like that, like there's gotta 96 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: be something else going on. 97 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: Like there's me and well, you wouldn't help, but you 98 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 3: would hope that there was like some reason for Ope 99 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: to get this barrage of like maybe. 100 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 4: The why what is her name? Diana? 101 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 3: Diana? 102 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe she like really did see something that's like questionable. 103 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: But also it's like she could talk to her normally 104 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 2: about it. You don't need to like yell at her 105 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: in front of everyone. 106 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 3: Also, I think a lot of times in other stories 107 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 3: where we have like a person like Ope, they're like 108 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 3: touching another person's partner and they're being overly friendly and 109 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: blah blah blah, and then you have like the other 110 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: partner who steps in and says, hey, like that's inappropriate. 111 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 3: Can you stop? And then in those stories that person 112 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 3: like keeps going and that's when you have the big 113 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 3: blow up. But here it seems like there was no 114 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 3: previous conversations. It was just the big. 115 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 2: Blow up right right, and then I want to know 116 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 2: what he thinks about exactly, Like he's not even talking 117 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: to Opie like this is your friend and to say 118 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: like hey, either hey, you were being a little bit 119 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: overly touchy these you know in the future, or no, 120 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: I'd like, I'm. 121 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 3: Like, you didn't do anything wrong, like give ape something exactly. 122 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 3: Update Jenna and I just FaceTime for the past like 123 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 3: forty ish minutes. She said that she talked to her 124 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 3: sister in law, Diana, and her brother over the weekend. 125 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: This is what Diana said. I am always touching and 126 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 3: always flirting with Joe. I'm route to her, ignoring her 127 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 3: and not saying HI when I go over to their house. 128 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 3: I've texted Joe late at night, even though he had 129 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: a pregnant wife at home and now a young baby. 130 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 3: On his birthday. I went to their house, barely said 131 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 3: anything to her, went to see their baby. I hadn't 132 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: met him yet, got them all worked up, but had 133 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 3: enough time to take a picture for Instagram, and then 134 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: she had to spend the next fifteen minutes calming him down. 135 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: When she came back out. She saw us in a 136 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 3: corner alone, me giving him his gift and hugging him. 137 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: I touched him other times throughout the night, and no 138 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 3: one else had problem. I did not talk to her 139 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: at dinner. She was on the opposite end of the table, 140 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 3: so of course not yet. I was joking and flirting 141 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 3: with her husband. She said I am not welcome in 142 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: her home again. She said. Her brother said that he's 143 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 3: sorry his wife yelled at me, because he was the 144 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 3: one who she should have been yelling at. Diana asked 145 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 3: him multiple times to pull back on our friendship because 146 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 3: I was being rude to her and I was always 147 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 3: touching him, and he said nothing. He'll now be doing 148 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: that apparently. So this is something that Diana has brought 149 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 3: up multiple times to Joe, and this is the first 150 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: time that Ope's here's about her, Like, that's pretty disrespectful 151 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 3: for him not to put up any of those boundaries. 152 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 2: Like Diana should be more mad at Joe in this situation. Obviously, 153 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: Opite doesn't note. 154 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: By the way, you know what I know. You can 155 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 3: listen to full episodes of stories like this if you 156 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 3: go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcasts, app 157 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 3: and search. Okay, storry time, And. 158 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:51,119 Speaker 4: There is a little bit more. 159 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: If we are to believe what Opee is writing, which 160 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 3: is the only thing we can do. It seems like 161 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 3: Diana might be someone who is like my partner cannot 162 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 3: have or my husband cannot have female friends, and it's 163 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 3: like any any sort of contact, even a hug, is 164 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: too much, in which case it's like very hard to 165 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 3: be friends with the person like that, who has a 166 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: partner who is just like so controlling. 167 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: I don't know. We also have heard a lot. 168 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: Of stories where like the person that's accusing someone of 169 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: cheating is the one. 170 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: That is Yeah, maybe she's projecting. Maybe she has her 171 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 3: own thing going on, right, Like. 172 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 2: Maybe she thinks that this is a little suspicious because 173 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: she's doing the same spicious things. 174 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 175 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: No, but it is pretty ridiculous that they've had this 176 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: conversation multiple times and Opie's just hearing about it now. Ridiculous. 177 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: But there is a little bit left. No one ever 178 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 3: called me out about these things, and I still think 179 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: that Diana is reading a lot more into everything than 180 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: there was. I did not purposely ignore her. I always 181 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: talk to her. I just know Joe better and felt 182 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: more comfortable with him. She's always been preoccupied with her 183 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: pregnancy and now their son, so I haven't seen her 184 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 3: as much owls and Cardinal says, It's hard to say 185 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 3: whether you've been out of line or not. It is 186 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 3: clear you do not feel you of but I strongly 187 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: encourage you to see this as a learning experience. When 188 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 3: you're friends with the couple, it is good to nurture 189 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 3: the relationship with both, and perhaps especially with the female. 190 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 3: Women often are not completely comfortable with their husbands being 191 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 3: close with the female friends that seem to maintain distance 192 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 3: with the wives themselves, and the same goes for men 193 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: not being comfortable with wives being close to men that 194 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 3: the husband is not. And well, you may see that 195 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 3: as silly, but it is pretty standard in my experience, 196 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 3: knowing that it is to be expected. You don't want 197 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: to invite the situation again. It seems clear, at a 198 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: minimum that you considered her much more of a secondary 199 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 3: friend and didn't really try to connect with her. And yeah, 200 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 3: the late night texts are somewhat over the line. If 201 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 3: she raised this to him to set some boundaries first, 202 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 3: and he refused or failed her, her bigger issue should 203 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 3: be with him than with you, and it's too bad 204 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: you took the brunt of it. Try to see your 205 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 3: role in this only to try to avoid a similar 206 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 3: thing from occurring in the future. And Opie says, thanks. 207 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 3: I don't have too many friends who are married and parents, 208 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: so it's different than when I hang out with other 209 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: people who are in a friend group. The late night 210 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 3: texts are something I've sent to other people too. I 211 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 3: know now I shouldn't do that, but it isn't like 212 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 3: I was hitting on him. I was wasted when sending 213 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 3: some of them. I now know to hide my phone 214 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 3: when that happens. I should have maybe tried harder with her, 215 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: but we were closer in the beginning. Since she's gotten 216 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 3: pregnant and had her child, she's been busy with all 217 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 3: these pregnancy things and taking care of the baby. It's 218 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: hard to be friends. Test user name says, wasted texting 219 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 3: a married man late at night is sketch af not 220 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: trying to be friends with his wife because it's too hard, 221 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: is too I think her call out was probably justified. Oh, 222 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: he says, I can see why you think that, But 223 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 3: to me, he wasn't a married man but a friend. 224 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 3: He isn't the only person I've wasted texted. The list 225 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 3: is pretty long and someone hilarious. I have tried to 226 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 3: be friends with her, she has been busy and not 227 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 3: around his off as Joe has. I do think she's 228 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 3: reading too much into it. I'm closer to Joe than 229 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: I am to her. That doesn't mean I'm flirting with 230 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 3: her husband or trying to get him. And test Username 231 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 3: says Joe seems to think her complaints of some basis 232 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: in reality. Maybe you are the one not seeing things 233 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 3: clearly slash in denial being one hundred percent honest with yourself. 234 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 3: Are you attracted to Joe even if you've never acted 235 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: on it? Opie says he's an attractive guy. Sure, that 236 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: doesn't mean I'm flirting with him or trying to sleep 237 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: with him or anything. That is the end A little 238 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: bit more of a suspicious reply at the end, right, And. 239 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: It's just normal for you to like drunk text your 240 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 2: friends and give them compliments and stuff like. 241 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, it really depends on the context, but that's the 242 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 3: end of that story. 243 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: My best friend is a cheater, so I sided with her. 244 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,599 Speaker 4: Ex husband when they got divorced. 245 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: Good. 246 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's good. 247 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: My best friend thirty five female, Emily and I thirty 248 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: five female, have been friends since college and lived together 249 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 2: for three years. Since then, we've both been married, had jobs, 250 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 2: had kids, and plenty of moves, but we have. 251 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 4: Been very close friends through it all. 252 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 2: When she got married, I was her maid of honor, 253 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 2: and when I got married, my only sister was my 254 00:10:58,840 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: maid of honor. 255 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 4: But she's still right next to her. 256 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,079 Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from Primary Possession twenty one 257 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: on the r slash Okay story time separad it. So 258 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 2: I have always valued Emily as a friend. She was 259 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 2: always my practical friend. 260 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 4: I was always the. 261 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: Mom of the group, making the plans, planning the itinerary, 262 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: keeping our friends safe, et cetera. But I wasn't alone 263 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 2: when she was around. She was a good time, but 264 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: level headed. She was there for me throughout college and 265 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 2: through the many ups and downs. One of those friends 266 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 2: that can pick up at any time right where. 267 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 4: You left off. 268 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 2: Three years ago, we did a couple's vacation to wine Country. 269 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: It was supposed to be a fun weekend away without 270 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 2: kids and all of us like wine. Emily was a 271 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: mess got super wasted by the second vineyard and was 272 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: practically falling over herself, broke some of the wine glasses 273 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:48,439 Speaker 2: and threw up. 274 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 4: Oh hey, Emily. 275 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: I've never been like wine tastes or anything, but I 276 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: have heard that it's like really easy to get dr well. 277 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 3: I mean, you're like jess is so many sip it up. 278 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: I had one glass of shame pain on. I was like, that's. 279 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Whoa, But still like you should probably understand when like 280 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: you're getting there. You know, we're in our thirties and 281 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: I've done tastings in wine trips before, so it's not 282 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 2: like she didn't know how. 283 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: To pace herself. 284 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 2: It was weird, but we tried to just go home 285 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: and to bed and try again the next day. 286 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,439 Speaker 4: But the whole trip was just weird. 287 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: Emily picked fights with me and with her husband, wound 288 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: up crying and literally laying on the lawn of the 289 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: house we stayed at for a while. Her husband told 290 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: me at one point that she threatened to divorce him 291 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: if he didn't agree to another kid. WHOA, that's not 292 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 2: how you want to go into planting. 293 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 3: I kind of led to my parent's divorce right well. 294 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 2: I told him their family planning is private and between them. 295 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 2: I also said that ultimatums had no place in a 296 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: marriage and advised marriage counseling instead of coming to me. 297 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: The last day of our trip, I pulled her aside 298 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 2: and said that I was worried about what I was. 299 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 4: Seeing and that she might want to consider talking to someone. 300 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: I told her therapy helped me so much and I 301 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: think she might really benefit from it considering everything she 302 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: had going on. She also revealed a bunch of family 303 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: trauma during the trip that was very dark. She flipped 304 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: out at me and told me that there was nothing 305 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,640 Speaker 2: wrong with her, that if I needed a shrink, that 306 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: was on me, but that she didn't need that. 307 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 4: And I should mind my own business. 308 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 2: I put my hands up and said, okay, no problem, 309 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: my bad, and left it alone. Our friendship wasn't the 310 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: same after Mind you, this is three years ago. She 311 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,959 Speaker 2: lives about thirty minutes from me and has seen me 312 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 2: a handful of times since I reached out to her 313 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 2: two years ago when my second son was born and 314 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 2: having postpartum, asking to spend some time together since I 315 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 2: was really struggling. And while she was empathetic and would 316 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: text me back, we didn't send any time together, nor 317 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 2: did she reach out or support me in any way 318 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 2: not directly requested. We were invited to the big things, 319 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: birthday parties, et cetera, but the texting, calling, and everyday 320 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: friend stuff pretty much stopped. She invited me to a 321 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: concert about a year ago with another friend, Brie, and 322 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: during the concert accidentally revealed that she had asked every 323 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 2: single other one of her friends to go before she 324 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 2: asked me because they had an extra ticket. 325 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: Why want you reveal that. It's like, yeah, you were 326 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 3: my last choice, but. 327 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: Like, so glad you're here. 328 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 4: All that to say we're not super close anymore. 329 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 2: Fast forward to three months ago, her husband text me 330 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: at six am asking me to call. 331 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: He told me that he found. 332 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: Out while on vacation with Brie and her husband that 333 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 2: Emily had been cheating on him. She told him that 334 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 2: she never loved him, wanted a divorce, and had planned 335 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 2: to stay together until after the holidays. Brie called me 336 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 2: the same day and said that her husband found out 337 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 2: because Bree's husband knew the details of their girls strip 338 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 2: the weekend before, where Emily slept with two random men 339 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 2: connected with her ex boyfriend from college, and asked me 340 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 2: to keep this all secret until after the holidays, oh man, 341 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 2: right before they were all going on vacation together. 342 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 4: It was a total mess. Dang. 343 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: Sorry, I know this is really long, but I'm trying 344 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: to include the details so people get the whole picture. 345 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: Since this happened, she has lied continuously to her now 346 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 2: ex husband, her friend Brie, and to me. She called 347 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: me the day all of this happened and said that 348 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 2: she was sorry for our falling out, but I had 349 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 2: seen things during the trip that she wasn't ready to face, 350 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: and that she realized that she's unhappy in her marriage 351 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: and motherhood two months prior, and that she missed her 352 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: ex so she decided to leave. 353 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 3: Like what, Yeah, that's a lot of info. Seems like 354 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 3: she does this trauma dumping thing a lot. I'd happened 355 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 3: on the wine trip too, Yeah, I guess. So he's like, hey, 356 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 3: you should get that checked out, and she's like, I'll. 357 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 5: Let a problem. 358 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: She's like, let me lay in the lawn just because 359 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 4: I want to. Yea, nothing's wrong. 360 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 3: Literally, nothing's wrong. I just am touching grass. 361 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 4: I'm just cheating on my husband with multiple people. 362 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 3: Including my ex. 363 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 2: We talked for a while and I asked if she 364 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 2: would try counseling or anything to save their marriage, especially 365 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 2: considering the kids. And she said absolutely and that she 366 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: didn't want to throw her life away but realizes it's 367 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: not worth. When she got home to her husband, she 368 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 2: said she wouldn't do counseling, already had a boyfriend and 369 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: wanted a divorce. 370 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 4: Dang, that took a whole one eighty. 371 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: Well, it seems like she's just trying to say whatever 372 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 3: op he wants to hear. So she's like, because she 373 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: doesn't want to lose this friend. I guess I don't know. 374 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, she gave him the house as long as he 375 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 2: would pay for her tummy tuck. She moved into an 376 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: apartment and is thrilled to be on her own, booked 377 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: about five vacations in the first couple of weeks on 378 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: her own. She has no job, no prospects, no applications 379 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: out the door, and the only money she had after 380 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 2: their divorce was final is gone already. I guess you 381 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 2: can get a divorce in thirty days if uncontested. Anyways, 382 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 2: this brings me to now. Several of her friends, including 383 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 2: brit You, have talked to me since expressing their dismay 384 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: for the whole situation, and we. 385 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 4: All feel so bad for the kids. 386 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 2: She was superbombed that imploded and is basically gone. She's 387 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: up one minute and down the next. We all strongly 388 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 2: suspect there was something very wrong, but Emily, he has 389 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: not been receptive to me in the past, and a 390 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 2: few others have recommended therapy or at least to put 391 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 2: on the breaks before changing anything to no a veil. 392 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: Emily and I have talked once in the last few months, 393 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 2: and then when she told me to come visit her 394 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 2: at her new apartment and to let me know she 395 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 2: and her husband got divorced, at which point I told 396 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 2: her I knew that since he and my husband are 397 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 2: friends and have talked several times while all of this 398 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: was going on. Her husband, my husband, and I have 399 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 2: all been friends for now ten years, and this is 400 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: just so unlike the Emily we knew. So we all 401 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 2: have whiplash and have been in touch with him a 402 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 2: lot throughout all of this because he's completely devas stated 403 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: and very much in the place of is this seriously 404 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 2: who I'm married? We also want to be a support 405 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 2: for the kids as much as possible. We've been talking 406 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 2: to her ex husband now for months and have gotten 407 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 2: together a few times with the kids without Emily to 408 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: give him support and have our kids who are all 409 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:01,160 Speaker 2: friends and little like all under the age of eight, 410 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: some happy fun times. I haven't said anything to her 411 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: about it, and while on one hand, I feel I 412 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: don't really owe her anything at this point, on the 413 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:12,200 Speaker 2: other hand, I feel incredibly guilty and like I'm going 414 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: behind her back since we have been friends for a 415 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: long time. By the way, you never have to feel 416 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 2: incredibly guilty if you just listen to full episodes like 417 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: these with stories like this, just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts. 418 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: Or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, do it. 419 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 4: There is a little bit more, but I think we 420 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 4: need to unpack. 421 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 3: So oh, he has been with a couple other friends. 422 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: I guess she's been helping out Emily's ex husband with 423 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: the kids because they're friends too, and is not told 424 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: Emily about any of us, And that's what she's kind 425 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: of asking. No, I don't think you're the ahole for 426 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 3: helping out this ex husband who's also your friend and yeah, 427 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: his kids, because it's clear that you and Emily just 428 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: have very different values and more rooms and stuff. 429 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 2: Right, and you have come to Emily, like you been 430 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 2: there for Emily and like talk to her about it, but. 431 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 3: She pushed you off. 432 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 2: She's yelled at you, right or like when she does 433 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 2: take your advice and like agree with you, then like 434 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: behind your back, you'll. 435 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: Switch us up. 436 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 2: And I mean you can still have the idea of like, listen, 437 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 2: if she comes to me she needs help, like I'll 438 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 2: be there for her, but right now I'm not gonna 439 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: come to her. 440 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 4: I think that's totally reasonable. 441 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, but there is a little bit more, so 442 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 2: let's get on into it. That said, my husband now 443 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 2: pretty much hates her for everything she's done to her 444 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: husband and children and wants nothing to do with her. 445 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 2: Her ex husband has been floundering through all of this 446 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 2: and has been isolated, So I do think a connection 447 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: with him and the kids through this is where the 448 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 2: support is needed. And I really don't think that you 449 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 2: can or should be friends with both sides in a 450 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: situation like this. 451 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 4: I haven't posted pictures of our kids together or. 452 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 2: Hinted at seeing them in any way, but it all 453 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: just feels icky and like I'm abandoning her. 454 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 4: So am I they ajo? And that is it? 455 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 2: So why do we think. 456 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 3: I don't think you're abandoning her. I think that she 457 00:19:57,119 --> 00:20:00,119 Speaker 3: has kind of pushed you to the side multiple times, yeah, 458 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 3: when you try to help. 459 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: So, yeah, I think she's the one that's like not 460 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 2: putting in the effort into the friendship or any of 461 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 2: her relationships. Obviously, I think it's okay to have a 462 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,439 Speaker 2: friend that you don't agree with what they're doing and 463 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 2: try to urge them to do the right thing. 464 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: And be like, you know what, they're going to figure 465 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 4: it out. 466 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: But in this situation, it seems a little extreme for that, Yes, 467 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: and also to the point where she's like, you know, 468 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 2: attacking you and not really like listening. 469 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 3: That's the end of that story. My entitled friend kicked 470 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: my dog, so I kicked her out? 471 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 2: There you go, very fair response. 472 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 3: As the title says, last week, I kicked what I 473 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 3: thought was a good friend out of my house because 474 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 3: I could no longer handle her antics. Just want to 475 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: write it here just to distress and deal with the 476 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,120 Speaker 3: grief of losing a friend. By the way, this comes 477 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 3: from Uncle Barnacle on the Okay Storytime Severed It. So Kendall, 478 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 3: twenty five, female and I met in university in twenty sixteen. 479 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 3: We studied different majors, but we're from the same department, 480 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 3: so we share many classes together and bonded over our 481 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 3: passion for gaming and memes. Upon graduation, Kendall moved back 482 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 3: to her hometown due to COVID and found a job there. 483 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 3: We kept in touch online through Instagram. About three years later, 484 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,399 Speaker 3: Kendall told me she found a better paying job in 485 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: the city, so she's planning to move out from her 486 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 3: parents place. When I asked her about her plans on 487 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: her accommodations, she replied with that's the thing I was 488 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: gonna ask if you have an extra bedroom that I 489 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 3: could move into. Very presumptuous, right was It hadn't even 490 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 3: like was like, yeah, I'm planning to move to the city. 491 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 3: Didn't really think about where I'm gonna live beyond your 492 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: I'm gonna live with you. For a context, I have 493 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 3: inherited an apartment from my late grandfather, which is a 494 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 3: nice three bedroom, two bath near the city center last 495 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 3: year or January, and I currently live alone there since 496 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 3: it's closer to my workplace and it has all the 497 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 3: convenience of public transport. After some thinking, I thought there's 498 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 3: no harm in living with Kendall. Since I considered us 499 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 3: close friends, we just gus the terms and of course 500 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 3: the rent. A week later, Kendall moved into my apartment. 501 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 3: It was great at first. My home felt more lively 502 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: than usual, and the thought of going home to a 503 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 3: close friend warmed my heart and gave me a sense 504 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 3: of security. Things were okay for a while, and then 505 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 3: crap goes downhill super quick. Kendall started complaining about many 506 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 3: things at home, about her work, her savings, and how 507 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: she felt homesick. At first, I was very accommodating, thinking 508 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: maybe she just needs time to get used to the 509 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 3: city life. I offered as much help as I can, 510 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,359 Speaker 3: even to the point of if she's low on money, 511 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 3: I don't mind voiding a month's rent if it meant 512 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: I could help her to achieve financial stability. I taught 513 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 3: her how to save money, how I live off with 514 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 3: my then low salary with several commitments like my car, 515 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: my dog, and a student loan. I grew up where 516 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: my parents expect me to be independent, so I told 517 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 3: her things I do when I'm low in cash, how 518 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 3: to get freelance jobs, et cetera. But she always seems 519 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 3: to have an excuse for every suggestion I have finding 520 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 3: a freelance's job is too hard, or how she couldn't 521 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 3: let go of her premium junk food that she isn't 522 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 3: willing to cook or meal prep. And I eventually decided 523 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 3: to leave it as it is. And after two months 524 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: of living together, I realized Kendall started treating me as 525 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 3: some kind of competition. She would constantly ask me things 526 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: like how much money I make a month, how many 527 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 3: job hoppings did that take? Anything that she thinks she's 528 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 3: better than me, She'll definitely pop that question. She boasts 529 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: about how she's loyal to her crappy paying company and 530 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: how I would never be able to move up the 531 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: corporate ladder, as she called me an industry frog. What 532 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 3: hopping from? What does it even mean? I have no 533 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 3: idea like you're hopping from one job to the next, 534 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: or something like you can't move up. She once snooped 535 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 3: my savings balance and asked how the f did I 536 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 3: have so much saved up with commitments, et cetera. Mind you, 537 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: she didn't have a lot of commitments, since her parents 538 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: paid off her student loans and fully paid off a 539 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 3: brand new car for her and maybe I should stop 540 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 3: collecting rent from her. I got mad and told her, 541 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: if she isn't happy living with me, maybe she should 542 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 3: move out. Que crocodile tears, and she said it was 543 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 3: a joke. I didn't have to take her seriously. She 544 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 3: begged for forgiveness and promised to never snoop my personal 545 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 3: items and details. Again. I let it go once, but 546 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 3: she kept bringing things up like well, you have the 547 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 3: cash and a credit card every time. I told her 548 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 3: I'd rather stay home because I no longer have the 549 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 3: budget to go out and have fun. Comments like these 550 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 3: became more frequent when I got a new job six 551 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 3: months ago. On top of that, she doesn't clean up 552 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: after herself, tried to flirt with my boyfriend, and at 553 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 3: times parked in my parking space when our initial agreement 554 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 3: was that she had to find her own parking space 555 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: if she's moving in with her own car, because my 556 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 3: apartment only is one parking lot per unit. The straw 557 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 3: that broke the Camel's back was when I caught her 558 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 3: kicking my dog in his abdomen when I got home 559 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: from work. I yelled at her and rushed to check 560 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,920 Speaker 3: my dog. Luckily, he was fine, but I still rushed 561 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 3: him to the vet for safety measures. I got home 562 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 3: and she sneered that it was just a dog, and 563 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: as a friend, I shouldn't treat her like that. I 564 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 3: asked why she kicked my dog, and she didn't answer me. 565 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 3: She just shrugged and tried to escape into her room, 566 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 3: pausing for a second. 567 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is the first time that Opee's 568 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 2: caught that. When we were read the story, or like 569 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 2: the title, I was imagining like, okay, maybe some sort 570 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 2: of like argument broke out and then she got mad 571 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 2: and just like kicked the dog once. She just got 572 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 2: home from work and happened to catch her doing this, Yeah, 573 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: which to. 574 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: Me implies that she's done this more than once. 575 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, and kicking too like it could have been you know, 576 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,680 Speaker 2: more than one, just like quickly little, which still would 577 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 2: not be good. 578 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 579 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: If she closed the door and wouldn't open it and 580 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: like locked or something, guess who's kicking down that door. 581 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 2: I'm kicking it down, barging. 582 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 4: In out here, dude. 583 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 3: At this point, it was already about a year since 584 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Kendall moved in with me. I lost my cool and 585 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: told her off, bringing up her problems and how I 586 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,719 Speaker 3: tried to be nice and accommodating. Then I told her 587 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 3: I'm giving her a week to move out and that 588 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: from then on, I rather we keep our relationship casual 589 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 3: or we don't even talk at all. Kendall cried and 590 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 3: begged me not to kick her out, but soon it 591 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 3: turned into her screaming back at me, calling me a 592 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: bad friend because apparently, in her words, I didn't tell 593 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,320 Speaker 3: her off on how badly she was behaving, like WTF. 594 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: There was a lot of back and forth, which I 595 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 3: don't remember what I said, but I remember eventually calling 596 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 3: her an entitled bratt. She cried again, saying it was 597 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 3: uncalled for, and stormed off to her room. The next day, 598 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: I was bombarded with text from other UNI friends, some 599 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 3: calling me selfish and other sympathizing with me. Apparently Kendall 600 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 3: posted our argument on Facebook, Classic Move and Instagram, painting 601 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 3: me to be the bad guy. I was upset at first, 602 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 3: but I decided that after Kendall moved out, we would 603 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 3: no longer be friends, as well as those who took 604 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 3: her side of the story and condemned me. Anyone's posting 605 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: any personal information or personal fights and stuff on Facebook 606 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 3: is already the bad guy to me. Honestly, if I 607 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,120 Speaker 3: ever see someone like being like and then they did 608 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 3: this bah on like a public story, I'd be like, 609 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,640 Speaker 3: so you're the problem, right. 610 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 2: It's like, I feel like the only reason you're trying 611 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: to get the public's opinion on this is because you 612 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,399 Speaker 2: think that you know different I think from Reddit stories. 613 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: Well one, because those are usually anonymous, right, But also 614 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 3: it's just like a different Reddit is not usually geared 615 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 3: towards people in your circle. 616 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 4: Yeah. 617 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 3: Last week Kenda left and I have changed the locks 618 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 3: on my apartment. I curled up in my bed and 619 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 3: cried myself out, probably from the sadness of losing a friend, 620 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 3: or maybe I'm finally letting out all the frustrations. I'm 621 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: definitely still grieving about this loss of a friend, as 622 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 3: I've had many good times with Kendall. For now, I 623 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 3: want to focus on myself and hopefully I eventually get 624 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: over this at it. The whole teasing that I have 625 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,600 Speaker 3: more money than Kendall got worse when I told her 626 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 3: I was given an offer by MNC as a senior designer, 627 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: and I disclosed her the offered salary as we always did. 628 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 3: Like I know how much year its two, which was 629 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 3: about fifty percent more than hers. That was dumb on 630 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 3: my part. I now understand why my parents told me 631 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 3: to never disclose slash discuss salaries the moment I started working. 632 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: And there is an update. But man oh man, man 633 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 3: oh man, Yeah, this is not a person that you 634 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: want to be friends with at all. 635 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: The money thing is like one thing too. 636 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 2: Like we've said in other stories, it's like you can't 637 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: tell someone how to spend their money, you know, you 638 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: just can't, and then literal like abuse to your dog 639 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: and just saying, oh, it's just a dog, and then 640 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 2: shruggling about why you did it. 641 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 4: It's like this person is like deranged. This person is psychotic. 642 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 3: Literally, It's like when I was watching Planet of the Apes, 643 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:35,959 Speaker 3: they're all like all the humans are like being all 644 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: like kicking the monkeys and stuff, and I was like, 645 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 3: even if you don't think that they're like smart or anything, 646 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 3: why are you mistreating them? Why are we doing that? 647 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: Something's not right? 648 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 3: Update? Hello everyone, I'm here with some updates about me 649 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 3: and my DOGO, as well as my now ex friend Kendall. 650 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 3: Let's start off with the update about myself. I've been 651 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 3: doing well, and surprisingly, as some of you mentioned previously, 652 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: I've gotten over the loss of this friendship rather quickly. Well, 653 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 3: I mean, she's been awful this whole time, it's not. Yeah, 654 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 3: my boyfriend planned a trip to a pet friendly beachfront 655 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: hotel and I spent a few days with just my 656 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 3: boyfriend and Doggo. We played in the seawater and I 657 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 3: watched my dog play in the sand. Overall, had a 658 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: great time, and we even grilled fish together while watching 659 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: the sunset. Doggo had a d bone fish file at 660 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 3: What a nice time. I am also grateful for my 661 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: friends who stood by my side regarding this issue. They 662 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 3: check in on me from time to time and sent 663 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 3: me funny content to watch during my free time. Some 664 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: of them even told me their stories about Kendall and 665 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 3: their discontentment with her behavior, which I will list some below. 666 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: Friend A Kendall ridiculed Friend A several times because Friend 667 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 3: A earned less than Kendall despite working a year longer 668 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 3: than Kendall. Friend B Kendall talked trash about friend Bee's 669 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 3: company via Instagram just because Kendall flunked her interview with 670 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: said company with Flying Colors. Friend see Kendall always demanded 671 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: Frenzy to be her personal driver during our college days. 672 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 3: If Frenzy refu use, Kendall would guilt Tripper Friendy. Ruined 673 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 3: Friendy's assignment by pranking him. She actually formatted his laptop 674 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: when the project was due in two weeks. When confronted, 675 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 3: all Kendall said was oopsies, there are many more, but 676 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:17,080 Speaker 3: these are the more icky ones I've received from my friends. 677 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 3: And now, at that out of the way, here is 678 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 3: today's main course. After I kicked Kendall out of my house, 679 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: one of my unie friends, let's call her Anne, stood 680 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 3: by Kendall's version of events and has allowed Kendall to 681 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 3: move in with her instead. Ooh boy, she's about to 682 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 3: have a wake up call Kendall, like your kettle's the 683 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 3: been totally wrong. She's the victim here. And then she's 684 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 3: gonna live with Kendall and she's gonna be like, oh, Anne, 685 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 3: call me out of the blue this afternoon, and her 686 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 3: first question to me was, how on earth did you 687 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 3: manage to put up with Kendall for a year. She's 688 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 3: driving me crazy. Long story short, whatever Kendall did when 689 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 3: she was living with me, she now does to Anne. 690 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: Snooping Anne's personal items, leaving dirty laundry around, generally being 691 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 3: a prick in the butt, and told me she's planning 692 00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 3: to force Kendall out of her house too. I didn't 693 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 3: comment much since Anne was among those who called me 694 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 3: a cruel person. But now it's come back to bite her. Yeah, 695 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 3: by the way, you know what never comes back to 696 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 3: bite you? 697 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 4: What listening to full episodes with stories like this. 698 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast 699 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: app and search. Okay, storytime, but there is a little 700 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 3: bit left to the story, but you have any final thought. 701 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 2: It's like just another one of those stories where it's 702 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 2: like you are being bad mouths to people, but you 703 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 2: know you're in the right. And then soon enough, those 704 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:36,719 Speaker 2: people who believe the bad mouth thing they understand and 705 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: they finally come around. 706 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 3: You don't have to do anything. All what this does 707 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 3: is it shows you who your true friends are exactly. 708 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 3: They'll eventually realize that you were right, which is its 709 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 3: own reward. But there is a little bit left. But wait, 710 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 3: that's not all. According to Anne, Kenda lost her job 711 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: because she tried to ask for one hundred percent increment 712 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: and attacked her supervisor When the increment request was turned 713 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 3: down two weeks ago, she was immediately escorted out of 714 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 3: the office building by security. WHOA, And she just texted 715 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 3: me twenty minutes ago saying she needed a favor from me, 716 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 3: that she wants a job at my workplace. Oh, he 717 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 3: already kicked you out. Why would she ever want to 718 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 3: give you. 719 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: A job even if she didn't kick you out, Like, 720 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: just off of that, Like, what if. 721 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 4: You don't get a job, now you're attacking everyone? Is 722 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 4: that happy with the dog? He didn't give you a. 723 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,520 Speaker 3: Job, I replied, stating, ooh, there isn't any vacancy tbh. 724 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 3: Even if there was, I wouldn't hire her out my 725 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 3: own So yeah, I hope this is the last time 726 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 3: I'll hear from Kendall, and I'll only update if somehow 727 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 3: something interesting happens that involves Kendall. And that is the 728 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:41,440 Speaker 3: end of that story. 729 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: Hey, it's Sam. We get back to the stories. But 730 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: here's three minutes of ads from our sponsors. 731 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 5: I refuse to rekindle a relationship with my ex wife 732 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:51,719 Speaker 5: because she had an affair. 733 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: There's a reason she's your ex. 734 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 5: I know what you're gonna say, it's fake and that 735 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 5: you saw this in a Wholemark Christmas movie, and I'm 736 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 5: right there with you. Honestly, I wouldn't believe it either 737 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 5: if it didn't happen to me. So if you can't 738 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 5: believe it, then just pretend and give me advice anyways, 739 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 5: Like I'm a real person, because. 740 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 1: I am, you are a real person, Opie. 741 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from amazing a Hole on 742 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 5: the r slash Okay story time, so I read it. 743 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 5: So I thirty two, mal met Sarah, thirty female. That's 744 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 5: where you went wrong in grade school in our small town. 745 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 5: She was my first everything, girlfriend, love, and eventually wife. 746 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 5: We both went to college together, and after I graduated, 747 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 5: we got married when I was twenty three, she was 748 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 5: twenty one. Sarah was still finishing her degree and I 749 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 5: worked hard to support both of us while she completed 750 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 5: her studies. When she got her first job, I was 751 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 5: so proud of her. It felt like all her sacrifices 752 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 5: and hard work were paying off, and I thought we 753 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 5: were on our way to building a life together. For 754 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 5: two years, everything seemed fine. 755 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: Or at least I thought so done done. 756 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 5: Then one day I came home from work and found 757 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 5: her packing a bag. She sat down and told me 758 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 5: she had been having an affair with a coworker. I 759 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 5: was completely oblivious. She was crying and apologetic. She just 760 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 5: loved me, but that she was in love with the 761 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 5: coworker and they had this chemistry and a deep connection 762 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 5: that she never felt this level of excitement and attachment 763 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 5: with me. 764 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm happy for her to find that reasoning during your relationship. 765 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 5: At the same time, she seemed to be really apologetic 766 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: and acted very guilty. She moved in with the coworker 767 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 5: that night. Oh wow, she felt guilty, Riley. She felt 768 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 5: guilty that she was cheating on her husband, her first love, 769 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 5: her first everything. That's so funny. Sarah made the divorce 770 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 5: quick and as easy as possible. She didn't contest anything 771 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 5: and took almost nothing. In the state we live in, 772 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 5: you can get a divorce in ten days if there 773 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 5: aren't any children involved. We found the papers ourselves. I 774 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,880 Speaker 5: was no lawyer, couldn't afford one. After it was final. 775 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 5: If she asked if we could be friends, and I 776 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 5: am ashamed to say that, I just broke down and 777 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 5: sawved like a baby in front of her, said nothing 778 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 5: and left. At that point, she was twenty three and 779 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 5: I was twenty five. A couple of years later, in 780 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,320 Speaker 5: early twenty twenty, while riding out COVID in my hometown, 781 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 5: my mom casually mentioned that Sarah had married the guy 782 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 5: she left me for. Apparently, Sarah's parents and mine had 783 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 5: talked about it since they were longtime friends, and Sarah's 784 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 5: parents were hesitant about the marriage but supported her. Hearing 785 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 5: that stunk. I had done everything I could to move on, 786 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 5: but knowing she had married her a fair partner felt 787 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,120 Speaker 5: like reopening the wound. I told my mom as kindly 788 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 5: as I could that I didn't want to hear about 789 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 5: Sarah anymore. She understood and never brought it up again. 790 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 5: That's good, dude. You know how many guys I met 791 00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 5: at church near here that have been divorced, and they're 792 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 5: under like twenty three three. 793 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: That's still a lot. Well, divorce rates are going even 794 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: more up. 795 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 5: I want to change that me too. I was broken 796 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 5: and depressed at first, but I went to see a 797 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 5: therapist and got some meds. I got some certifications, and 798 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 5: through a friend from college, I got an interview with 799 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 5: a global consulting company. My friend was married and couldn't 800 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 5: do the amount of travel that job. Required, so he 801 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 5: pushed hard for me to get the position. 802 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 1: Good friend. 803 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 5: I started traveling around the world and pretty much worked 804 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 5: all the time. At first, on any Giving Day, I 805 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 5: was either in the gym working or having a virtual 806 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 5: therapy session at three am. I was a dull boy. 807 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 5: I got into incredible shape thanks to lifting and running. 808 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 5: Eventually got a long term project in Romania and was 809 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 5: able to meet and have relationships with women. 810 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: Nice Okay, I feel like this is the distraction OP 811 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: needed after. 812 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 5: Every bad break up. I hit the gym so hard 813 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 5: I lost twenty five pounds. 814 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: There you go, good for OP. On all of this 815 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: like this is the distraction that they definitely needed. 816 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 5: Oh heck, yes, dude. Fast forward a few years. Recently, 817 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 5: I had a few weeks of vacation saved up and 818 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 5: I wanted to spend Christmas in Iceland. I went to 819 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 5: my parents' place in my hometown for Thanksgiving with my 820 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 5: sister and brother. Last Thursday, I was at the local 821 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 5: independent drug store in what passed for downtown in my hometown. 822 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,360 Speaker 5: It was a lunch counter, like an old fashioned drug store. 823 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 5: I got a cup of coffee and sat down at 824 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 5: the counter drinking it. When Sarah sat down beside me 825 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,799 Speaker 5: and said hello. No, she was super nervous and red 826 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 5: in the face. I was shocked and just sat there 827 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 5: looking at her. I was exploding inside, but I kept 828 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 5: my cool Outwardly. She was still beautiful. She was very 829 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,760 Speaker 5: fit herself and had lost her baby face and became 830 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 5: maybe even more beautiful. She started off by apologizing for 831 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 5: the way she ended her marriage. I told her she 832 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 5: already apologized like one hundred times when she dumped me, 833 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 5: but she insisted that she was young and stupid, and 834 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,239 Speaker 5: over time she realized how much she had hurt me. Dude, 835 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 5: she's trying to come back to the honey. 836 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, is she? Like? Oh? He go, he worked out, 837 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: he looks good, he's traveling, he's enjoying life without me. 838 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: He no, he can't do that. 839 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, because the parents are talking. He said, stop 840 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 5: talking about Sar to me. But Sarah didn't say stop 841 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 5: talking about Op. 842 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: Okay, Oh look at us, And I'm not taking her 843 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: back the way Op's writing about it. He wants her. 844 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,879 Speaker 5: Oh, this is the first time he's seen her since 845 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:25,400 Speaker 5: the divorce. 846 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,359 Speaker 1: I think you've done it. I've done it. Like, oh, 847 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: what happens if you saw your ex and like, what 848 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: would you say? Like I would say this, I would 849 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: say that, And then when it happened, she. 850 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 5: Wanted to meet me later in a last crowded spot 851 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 5: with fewer spies small town. Remember, I shook my head 852 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 5: no and told her frankly that I didn't see what 853 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 5: I could possibly get out of the meeting with her again. 854 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: Nice. 855 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 5: That kind of took the wind out of her cells, 856 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 5: and she kind of deflated. She admitted that it was 857 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 5: probably more for her than for me. She said that 858 00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 5: I'd get closer not only for how she ended things, 859 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 5: but for the kind of person she was back then. 860 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 5: She wanted to tell me about how she changed and 861 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,920 Speaker 5: what she learned about herself and what real love is. 862 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,720 Speaker 5: She wanted me to see that the person she become 863 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,800 Speaker 5: is someone that I could respect and maybe be friends with. Again. Nope, 864 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 5: I wanted to get the heck out of there, so 865 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 5: I just told her I think about it. She gave 866 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 5: me her number and went home. Apparently my mother and 867 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:28,719 Speaker 5: sister had already heard about it from Sarah's mom. So 868 00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 5: I am a big dumb victim of some kind of 869 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 5: big dumb Hallmark Christmas movie hit job. My sister twenty 870 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 5: nine female and mom fifty five female told me that 871 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 5: they kept up with Sarah since our divorce and they 872 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,880 Speaker 5: know that she's changed and that I should hear her out. 873 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 5: My dad fifty six male, just shook his head and 874 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 5: walked off. My brother twenty two mail, thought all of 875 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 5: this was hilarious. I asked if he wanted to chime in, 876 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 5: and he just shrugged his shoulders and said that since 877 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 5: Sarah and I knew each other from when we were kids, 878 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 5: I should at least hear her out just to keep 879 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 5: the peace between our families, since we live in a 880 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:09,760 Speaker 5: small town. 881 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: If I were OPI, I don't owe her a d thing. 882 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 1: I don't care about people's peace. I don't care about 883 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 1: her piece. You have no idea what trauma Opie's gone for. 884 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 5: And dude, she cheated on him. No one's like hearing 885 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 5: that part. 886 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, why is everyone like kind of like, Oh, let's 887 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: hear her out like she deserves it. You guys have 888 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: been like lifelong friends. You guys should hear it out, 889 00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: like No, she burnt that bridge long ago when she 890 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: moved in with the person she was having an affair 891 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: with that night. That too, she had an affair on you, 892 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: and she was like, oh, sorry, it's not you, it's me, 893 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: And now she's giving you the peace of day that 894 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: oh I've grown as a person. I was young and naive. 895 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: I want you back in my life. 896 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,279 Speaker 5: Gosh, dude. Personally, I do think that her family would 897 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 5: feel insulted if I didn't at least talk with her. 898 00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 5: I know for a fact that she's living with her 899 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 5: parents now, so it seemed like her life completely crap 900 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,880 Speaker 5: the bed. I kind of like to get the gory 901 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 5: details as maybe a form of shade and fro, but 902 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,320 Speaker 5: it's all behind me now, and I think it would 903 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 5: all just make me sad. I guess I'm a better 904 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,360 Speaker 5: man now that I'm more mature, more wealthy, and fitter 905 00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: than I was when I was with her, But I'm 906 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 5: still the same guy that she didn't have chemistry or 907 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 5: connection with back in the day, So I think whatever 908 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,880 Speaker 5: comes out of her mouth would be bull crap. I 909 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 5: think she's probably a dragon cosplaying as a princess and 910 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 5: wants me to be her White Night. My mom and 911 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,759 Speaker 5: sister are pushing hard for me to meet her, and 912 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 5: my mom says that she's afraid if I didn't at 913 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 5: least hear Sarah out that Sarah's mom will resent her 914 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 5: and make her social life more complicated. Let me make 915 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 5: it clear that I have no intention of getting back 916 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 5: with Sarah. Sarah's beautiful, but so are the women of Romania, 917 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 5: Iceland and elsewhere, and they have the added bonus of 918 00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:00,480 Speaker 5: not breaking my heart. I'm interested in going just to 919 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,000 Speaker 5: hear about what happens to her after she dumped me, 920 00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,960 Speaker 5: to smooth things over for my folks. What do you 921 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,399 Speaker 5: think right it? Should I go? I kind of want 922 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 5: to talk me down off the ledge. Would I'd be 923 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 5: the a hole if I ghosted my ex wife and 924 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 5: we got a freaking day. Are we going or not? 925 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,359 Speaker 1: She doesn't deserve you, OPI. That's the thing. I do 926 00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,680 Speaker 1: believe in hearing people out. She wants to give you 927 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: the closure that you so called deserve. You don't deserve it. 928 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 1: You already had your closure, you already moved on. But 929 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 1: I would hear her out. I like giving people second chances. 930 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, you changed, I'll hear you good, good 931 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 1: for you, and that's it. We go our separate ways. 932 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, it definitely will close that chapter of. 933 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: Your life completely. Yeah. I think that you get the 934 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: closure that that person wants to give you. You don't 935 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: not saying she deserves it, but you get that closure. 936 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,439 Speaker 1: She gets that closure. Finnay, it's done. 937 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,560 Speaker 5: I think I got closure from my ex whenever I 938 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,680 Speaker 5: moved out of my home. Sound. 939 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got distance. You're not getting reminded of her. 940 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 1: You're like, now I can move on. That's what OPI did, Like, 941 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about it from my family, 942 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,319 Speaker 1: don't talk about it, don't talk about her. I'm gonna 943 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,040 Speaker 1: go travel the world. And at the first maybe a 944 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 1: couple of months, he's like, oh, I'm sad. He's like, 945 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,480 Speaker 1: why am I sad? I'm traveling the world, enjoying life. 946 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 1: I should enjoy it to the fullest. 947 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, this probably will help OPI out in some ways. 948 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 5: Therapy session talk to him. 949 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's going to bring up some like 950 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: internal trauma, but I think that's gonna be the best 951 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:19,720 Speaker 1: for just like the full closure. 952 00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 5: We got an update, folks, Hi, I'm apparently known as 953 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 5: the horror Mark Christmas movie guy. I'm currently writing this 954 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,120 Speaker 5: from Iceland. I have some friends I met while doing 955 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 5: some consulting work here. This time of year, the days 956 00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 5: are very short and the northern lights are visible. Unfortunately, 957 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 5: it's supposed to be cloudy and rainy for this foreseeable 958 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 5: future here, so I'm out of luck with the Aura 959 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,760 Speaker 5: boy alas we're doing a Christmas pub crawl among other things. 960 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 5: Reg Vic is very single friendly during the holidays. After 961 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 5: I posted, for the next couple of days, my mom 962 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 5: and sister kept bugging me about it until I caved. 963 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 5: I know. I made it clear to them that I 964 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,400 Speaker 5: had no intention of getting back with Sarah and that 965 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 5: I was pissed that they thought there was a chance 966 00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,919 Speaker 5: I'd get back together with someone who stabbed their son 967 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 5: and brother in the art. Finally, I told Sarah i'd 968 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 5: meet her at the playground at our old school. It's 969 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 5: a small town, so there's only one school that's K 970 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 5: through twelve. When we met, I told her upfront that 971 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 5: I'm just there as a favor to our parents and 972 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,799 Speaker 5: my sister. She acknowledged that and we engage in a 973 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 5: little small talk. She told me that she had started 974 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,840 Speaker 5: following me on social media. I've since made it friends 975 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,600 Speaker 5: and family only, and she saw how I've been all 976 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 5: over the world and even commented on the girlfriend I 977 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,120 Speaker 5: had in Romania. I told her the name was Monica, 978 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,080 Speaker 5: and we had a great time together. Then she started 979 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 5: in with the juicy stuff I wanted to hear. Unfortunately 980 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 5: it wasn't very juicy, just regular boring relationship craft. She 981 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 5: started living with the guy, and it quickly became a 982 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,879 Speaker 5: parent that once she was with him, the relationship went 983 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,919 Speaker 5: from exciting affair to regular home drum relationships. 984 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: I haven't seen that one coming. Like that happens every time. Oh, 985 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,200 Speaker 1: the affair so spicy, I'm cheating. I can't do this. Oh, 986 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,720 Speaker 1: and you get caught and you're like, uh, now it's boring, 987 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: not just a standard relationship. 988 00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 5: She might have a type for married men. Now she's 989 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 5: just She said she knew the forbidden sparks were gone 990 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,320 Speaker 5: the first time she had to pick up and launder 991 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,799 Speaker 5: the guy's skid mark underwear. Yep, she left me for 992 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 5: a guy who was barely toilet trained. She said that 993 00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:29,440 Speaker 5: she was into now that she couldn't have thrown me 994 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,960 Speaker 5: away for a guy who is no good, so she 995 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 5: doubled down by marrying him. Sarah was always very stubborn. 996 00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 5: He was apparently a good salesman and earned a lot 997 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 5: in commissions but he was really bad with money. They 998 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,920 Speaker 5: had a lot of fights about money and household chores, 999 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 5: and finally she caught him cheating with a coworker. Oh 1000 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 5: the irony. 1001 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 1: Wow, what goes around comes around. 1002 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 5: She left him with a wrecked credit score. She was 1003 00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 5: pregnant with his kid at the time, so she terminated it, 1004 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 5: trying to avoid the filter. This was something no one 1005 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,839 Speaker 5: in her families know about. She's been living with her 1006 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:10,280 Speaker 5: parents and working at the same feedstore her dad works at. 1007 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,560 Speaker 5: She said she wanted to reconnect with me due to 1008 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 5: the fact that we were childhood friends and had been 1009 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,400 Speaker 5: each other's best friends for seventeen years and she missed me. 1010 00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 5: She started on about how much therapy she's been through 1011 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,960 Speaker 5: and she is a completely different person now. She wants 1012 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 5: to know how much she cares about me, and that 1013 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 5: girl I was best friends with is still there. Blah 1014 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 5: blah blah blah blah. I can't even write this manipulative 1015 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,760 Speaker 5: crap anymore. I guess I'm not a nice guy anymore. 1016 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,960 Speaker 5: I didn't want to start any kind of beef with 1017 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920 Speaker 5: her family and mine, so I just told her that 1018 00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 5: I also changed since she dumped me. I told her 1019 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 5: that when I touched something and get burned, I don't 1020 00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 5: touch it anymore. I told her that it's great she 1021 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 5: worked on herself, but some new guy idiot will have 1022 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,080 Speaker 5: to benefit from that. When I look at her, all 1023 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 5: I see is her crying, telling me she's leaving me, 1024 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 5: holding a proverbial knee with my blood all over it. 1025 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 5: In my mind, she's a person who says, honey, I 1026 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 5: love you, but I also love stabbing. No, thank you, ma'am. 1027 00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:11,000 Speaker 5: I told her that if we got together, the resentment 1028 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 5: would make me treat her like crap all the time, 1029 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,680 Speaker 5: and that she didn't want or deserve that. I told 1030 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 5: her good luck in her future endeavors, and I hope 1031 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,960 Speaker 5: she keeps up with her changes, and that I had 1032 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,080 Speaker 5: to leave to go to Iceland for Christmas. Yes, I 1033 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 5: was bragging. She was tearing up and trying not to 1034 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:32,240 Speaker 5: let me see her cry, and I pretended to not notice. 1035 00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 5: By the way, you can notice us on all the 1036 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 5: similar stories like this on our podcast platforms. Join us 1037 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,879 Speaker 5: on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. 1038 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,239 Speaker 5: Just search Okay, story Time and Kean, how are you 1039 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 5: feel about this? Do you think she wrote this out 1040 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,319 Speaker 5: scripted it and memorized her thoughts and like. 1041 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 1: She recited it now in the shower as well, and 1042 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,919 Speaker 1: that's what she wanted to say, and she got it out. 1043 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: But guess what Op is doing one the right thing 1044 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: of hearing her out, hearing her sob story, like you 1045 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: kind of brought this upon yourself. And he's gonna go 1046 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,880 Speaker 1: to Iceland and go enjoy Christmas pub brawl. And this 1047 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 1: is great for Obie. He's not rubbing it in too 1048 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 1: much to like hurt her, but he's like, I have 1049 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: my life and honestly, because of you dumping me, I 1050 00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,319 Speaker 1: wouldn't be enjoy enjoying my life now. And look how 1051 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: that's changed. You left me for this guy who literally 1052 00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: isn't great. You can't even wipe his own. 1053 00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 5: At that's crazy. Yeah, hope he made it work out. 1054 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna make Op feel so much better about himself. 1055 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,480 Speaker 1: It's sorry for the girl. I mean, you brought this 1056 00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: upon yourself, But guess what sucks for you, Sarah. You 1057 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: brought this upon yourself. You left a great man and 1058 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 1: you made him even greater. 1059 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 5: Sarah's of the world. Stop ruining men's lives. 1060 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: Opyrooting lives back to the story. 1061 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 5: My dad was disappointed. I cave to my mom and sister. 1062 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 5: He made it feel like I failed the test of manhood. 1063 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 5: I told my mom and sister not to expect any 1064 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 5: wedding bells or grandchildren's flash and nephews anytime soon. My 1065 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 5: brother called me a simp, so I had to wrestle him. 1066 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 5: He got me to headlock. The guy's getting too big 1067 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 5: and I held back too much. I love for ies 1068 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,879 Speaker 5: in the next day and I'm there until the new year. 1069 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:08,760 Speaker 5: I'm headed to Budapest for a following up project. Sarah 1070 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:09,760 Speaker 5: is not invite. 1071 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: This was great, good job, Oop, no matter how you 1072 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: perceive it, Like if Sarah was the one that got 1073 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,879 Speaker 1: cheated on and Op was, It's just one of those 1074 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: like sweet stories of like you got cheated on, they 1075 00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,960 Speaker 1: left you for someone they thought was better, and you did. 1076 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 5: The best revenge by working on yourself. 1077 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: You worked on yourself, you did therapy, you worked out, 1078 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,560 Speaker 1: you traveled the world, and you bet cool people and 1079 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,799 Speaker 1: they come back into your life, crawling back into your 1080 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: life asking you, oh, like I messed up, you were 1081 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,360 Speaker 1: the one, and you're just like, okay, well that's I 1082 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,960 Speaker 1: was the one. You're not my one anymore. I love 1083 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: this story. 1084 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,279 Speaker 5: You do also. I hate that you had to go 1085 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,760 Speaker 5: through Sarah Op for you to find your best life. 1086 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: But sometimes you got to go through those obstacles, you know, 1087 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 1: to get to the load to enjoy the high. 1088 00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 5: My ex best friend is having an affair with a 1089 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:55,680 Speaker 5: married man. 1090 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: Get I'm unmarried. 1091 00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:56,799 Speaker 2: Now. 1092 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,719 Speaker 5: The events in this post are all real, but since 1093 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 5: some some events include have made our local news, names 1094 00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 5: and details have been excluded or changed. This is a 1095 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,440 Speaker 5: long story, so we'll have three parts. Hello, you can 1096 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 5: call me Grace. My best friend we can call her Anna. 1097 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:14,359 Speaker 3: By the way. 1098 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 5: This comes from disabled Pan on the r Slish. Okay, 1099 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,839 Speaker 5: story time, self about it. Anna and I have been 1100 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,360 Speaker 5: friends since high school. She was one of those girls 1101 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,480 Speaker 5: who had always needed to have a boyfriend, leading to 1102 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 5: many bad relationships. She mostly met guys through Xbox, Snapchat, 1103 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 5: and tendered. Her sourcing is spot on crazy Xbox. 1104 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, are you actually really a girl? Yeah? 1105 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: Meet me here at that seven eleven. We'll get out 1106 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: those slurpace. 1107 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 5: Sometimes. She wasn't very into the guys she was with, 1108 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,239 Speaker 5: and our friend group had to convince her to break 1109 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 5: it off of them other times she was obsessed with 1110 00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 5: the guys who just did not want the same things 1111 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 5: from her. Being teenagers, I chalked this up to her 1112 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 5: low self esteem. In other areas of life, she was kind, supportive, 1113 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 5: and very honest, so I thought I always matched her 1114 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 5: energy and we were never afraid to speak our minds. Eventually, 1115 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,320 Speaker 5: other drama led us to breaking off from the friend group, 1116 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,719 Speaker 5: and we became best friends since graduating high school. In 1117 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,760 Speaker 5: her late teen slash early twenties, Anna started riding motorcycles. 1118 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,040 Speaker 5: I did not, but I did my best to be supportive. 1119 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 5: She joined a local riding group, not a gang, and 1120 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 5: found people to meet up with rides, which I thought 1121 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 5: was great until a few months later when she started 1122 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,000 Speaker 5: talking a lot about this one guy and his wife. 1123 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,759 Speaker 5: This couple was in their forties at three kids, and 1124 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:41,160 Speaker 5: frequently hung out together in motorcycle group with Anna. But 1125 00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,799 Speaker 5: the guy who called Jack had a very specific and 1126 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 5: very cool motorcycle that they Anna and Jack would ride 1127 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,240 Speaker 5: on together. I was skeptical, but didn't go off yet, 1128 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 5: so it continued. Jack was showing her some new tricks. 1129 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,320 Speaker 5: Then Jack was helping her repair her bank at her house. 1130 00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,480 Speaker 5: Jack was paying for parts and gears for her riding, 1131 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 5: and for some reason his wife was acting jealous. 1132 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is all reasonable and gross. 1133 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,640 Speaker 5: At this point, I assumed it was obvious that Jack 1134 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,360 Speaker 5: was hitting on Anna and she was either oblivious or 1135 00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 5: being witfully ignorant to get some perks. She laughed it 1136 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 5: off and said not to worry, nothing was going to 1137 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 5: happen between them. Little did I know by this time 1138 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,760 Speaker 5: she was completely used to lying to me. Weeks later, 1139 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,120 Speaker 5: when I had not changed my opinion, Anna finally confessed 1140 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:37,280 Speaker 5: to me that she and Jack had been doing a 1141 00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 5: lot more than what she was saying. She had hidden 1142 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 5: her full blown affair with Jack from me because she 1143 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,279 Speaker 5: knew I wouldn't approve, and also because Jack had instructed 1144 00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,279 Speaker 5: her to keep their little secret ill. She tried to 1145 00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 5: defend the affair by admitted that she had also cheated 1146 00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,279 Speaker 5: in many of her Xbox Slash Snapchat relationships in the past, 1147 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 5: and had hitten it from me. Shocked, baffled, since everyone cheated, 1148 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 5: it wasn't that big of a deal, right, Well, call 1149 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,759 Speaker 5: me a luxury Vinyl plank. Because I was floored. She 1150 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:18,040 Speaker 5: also gave excuses on his part, all the usual ones. 1151 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 5: His wife was awful. She didn't want to sleep at 1152 00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 5: ham as much after their three children. She apparently turned 1153 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:29,880 Speaker 5: the kids against him too, But he didn't want to 1154 00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 5: have a broking home, so obviously his only option was 1155 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 5: to have an affair with this girl who's less than 1156 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 5: two years older than his oldest child, his still minor child. 1157 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,640 Speaker 5: So I'm guessing Anna is like eighteen or nineteen. 1158 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,720 Speaker 1: I would assume she's in the late teens. I hope, 1159 00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:51,759 Speaker 1: I really hope. 1160 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 5: What's like keep kids being minors if they're their twenty one? 1161 00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:55,279 Speaker 1: I don't like you. 1162 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,960 Speaker 5: I didn't feel like I was adult until I was 1163 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:57,400 Speaker 5: like twenty. 1164 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: I feel like there's times where I'm like, oh, I'm 1165 00:53:59,440 --> 00:53:59,880 Speaker 1: an adult. 1166 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 5: I can imagine being anywhere like this until I was 1167 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,760 Speaker 5: like twenty. I made my feelings very clear to Anna. 1168 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,680 Speaker 5: This whole situation was not okay and this was not 1169 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,279 Speaker 5: a good man. When she pushed back, I tried to 1170 00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 5: empathize with her because she was my best friend. Maybe 1171 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,640 Speaker 5: he made her feel desirable, gave her advice, and bought 1172 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,359 Speaker 5: her stuff, but none of that mattered because of all 1173 00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:26,319 Speaker 5: the obvious ways that he was a terrible man. She 1174 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 5: would not hear any of it. He was a great 1175 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,040 Speaker 5: guy who did great things for her. She was an 1176 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,839 Speaker 5: adult who could make her own choices, and he just 1177 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,440 Speaker 5: wanted what was best for his kids. Yeah right. She 1178 00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 5: also refused to tell his wife, shocking. Ope ultimatum, you 1179 00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 5: tell the wife, or she tells a wife, or he 1180 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,479 Speaker 5: tells a wife. Someone's telling the wife in a week. 1181 00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,640 Speaker 1: At this point, in an hour, I'm over there. 1182 00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 5: If I get any small sniff of a cheatings affair happening, 1183 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 5: I'm letting the partner. 1184 00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: Up, even if you don't know them, even if. 1185 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 5: I don't know them. It was like on train and 1186 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,120 Speaker 5: I hear it, okay, whatever, but it's like I hear 1187 00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,759 Speaker 5: your friend of a friend and I'm like, oh, I 1188 00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 5: kind of know her in some way or know him. 1189 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, hey, I'm gonna stop this tomfoolery. 1190 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, as a human, you cannot allow that. For the 1191 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:16,360 Speaker 5: next several months, Anna and I also had a strain 1192 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,719 Speaker 5: of relationship. We fought, but I was also busy with 1193 00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,799 Speaker 5: college and work, so I mostly wanted to ignore the 1194 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 5: whole situation. I had never met those people and had 1195 00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,479 Speaker 5: no proof of anything, so there wasn't much I could 1196 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 5: have done. Anyways, During this time, Jack proved to be 1197 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:37,120 Speaker 5: a complete d bag. He constantly degraded Anna, calling her 1198 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,640 Speaker 5: a stupid child, and getting pissed when she wouldn't drop 1199 00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 5: everything to wait on him hand and foot. For example, 1200 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 5: if he forgot to bring lunch for work, she was 1201 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 5: expected to make something and bring it to him immediately, 1202 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,160 Speaker 5: no matter what she was doing. I continue to tell Anna, yeah, 1203 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 5: he's awful, get rid of him. But after all his 1204 00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,800 Speaker 5: love bombing, she was attacked. Eventually, the inevitable happened. 1205 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:05,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, gross, maybe she's into that. 1206 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,640 Speaker 5: I think she's super young. She doesn't know what love 1207 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,920 Speaker 5: bomby is or what this looks like. 1208 00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,000 Speaker 1: Who is the worst here, Jack the forty year old 1209 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:16,600 Speaker 1: who's cheating on his wife and his family, or Anna 1210 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,480 Speaker 1: the one that's going into it and like just enabling it. 1211 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,120 Speaker 5: I don't think she knows any better, dude. 1212 00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,760 Speaker 1: So it's Jack. Jack's using Anna for sure, and Anna's 1213 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,319 Speaker 1: just like this is what it's supposed to be, right, 1214 00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:28,759 Speaker 1: Like he's the good guy and I love him, love 1215 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: him because she doesn't know what love is and she 1216 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: doesn't want to listen to anyone, like you just want 1217 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 1: to hear anyone about it. She's like I'm in the 1218 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: right there, Jack tells me, I'm right. 1219 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,279 Speaker 5: It's sad Jack you His wife had been moving in 1220 00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,960 Speaker 5: the shadows and somehow sinked his phone to their laptop 1221 00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,160 Speaker 5: so she could read all the messages he had been 1222 00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:49,680 Speaker 5: leading She had all the proof she needed. She kicked 1223 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,320 Speaker 5: him out and changed the locks. This man actually broke 1224 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 5: the door handle trying to get into the house to 1225 00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,960 Speaker 5: just have a conversation, and this led to the wife 1226 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,120 Speaker 5: getting a restraining war and filing for divorce. Jack and 1227 00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 5: Anna were also banned from the writing group. Why do 1228 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 5: I know this information? Anna told me about it because 1229 00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 5: she and Jack had decided to move in together and 1230 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 5: she wanted me to meet him. 1231 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:16,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's such a great guy. He just broke off 1232 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,120 Speaker 1: a handle because he just wanted to talk. 1233 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 5: I would never want to meet Satan. 1234 00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,479 Speaker 1: Never, no, no, but he's great. 1235 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,000 Speaker 5: Apparently, now that she was separating from his wife, he 1236 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:30,360 Speaker 5: supposedly wanted to meet some of Anna's friends and family. 1237 00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 5: He was somehow always busy and never met her family. 1238 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 5: I told her that based on his actions and how 1239 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,919 Speaker 5: he has treated her in the time, since I would 1240 00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 5: never willingly put myself in a room with that man. 1241 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 5: She was upset with me and we had a major 1242 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,480 Speaker 5: fight where she says some completely hurtful things about me 1243 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 5: and my fiance. This was the straw that finally led 1244 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,160 Speaker 5: to me blocking her on social media and we didn't 1245 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,960 Speaker 5: talk for months. Part three The Rest That's a New Time. 1246 00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: I like that title. 1247 00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,400 Speaker 5: This is the final act climax. Oh boy. The only 1248 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 5: thing I never actually blocked was Anna's phone number, because 1249 00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,880 Speaker 5: part of me held out to hope that she would 1250 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:13,800 Speaker 5: come to her senses and eventually want to apologize. Boy, 1251 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,960 Speaker 5: was I wrong. Months after our fight and a cause 1252 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 5: I decided to answer. She tells me that she and 1253 00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 5: Jack had been riding a motorcycle in the next town over, 1254 00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 5: but something happened and Jack was arrested. She might need 1255 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 5: to ride to a place to stay. I asked if 1256 00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 5: she had anyone else to call, finally gaining a spine, 1257 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 5: and she ended up getting a ride from her dad 1258 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 5: back to her place with Jack. I get on the 1259 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:41,640 Speaker 5: Facebook page for our local police scanner and found out 1260 00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,960 Speaker 5: what actually happened instantly. These idiots had been riding with 1261 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,440 Speaker 5: Anna on back, going over one hundred miles an hour 1262 00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 5: when they passed a state trooper instead of stopping, they 1263 00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 5: started an hour long police chase, trying to outrun several 1264 00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 5: officers and police helicopter, but he ran out of gas 1265 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:07,320 Speaker 5: in the next town over and was immediately arrested. 1266 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:08,280 Speaker 1: He's just a good guy. 1267 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:11,720 Speaker 5: At first, they arrested Anna too, but the cops assumed 1268 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:16,440 Speaker 5: she was his daughter and let her go. Jack is 1269 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:20,440 Speaker 5: now facing several charges, including felonies, and it is almost 1270 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,520 Speaker 5: certainly going to prison. Even if he doesn't. This has 1271 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 5: cost him his career as a car salesman. As for Anna, well, 1272 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:31,520 Speaker 5: I'm still a recovering people pleaser, so I gave her 1273 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,640 Speaker 5: a spot on my couch for two days before she 1274 00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 5: was supposed to move to her grandparents house. During that time, 1275 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,800 Speaker 5: I got filled in on all the horrible ways he 1276 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,800 Speaker 5: treated her. The house was never clean enough, she was 1277 00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:46,160 Speaker 5: lazy and stupid. He had even gotten her fired from 1278 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,840 Speaker 5: one of her jobs by showing up at her work 1279 00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 5: trying to fistfy a mal coworker who had invited her 1280 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 5: out for drinks. All of this made me feel really 1281 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 5: bad for Anna, and though I thought she was done 1282 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,960 Speaker 5: with him for good. Maybe we can recover from this. 1283 01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 5: I honestly should have learned my lesson by now. A 1284 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:08,800 Speaker 5: few days later, Anna calls me crying. Even after that arrest, 1285 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 5: she continued speeding and ended up getting two separate tickets 1286 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 5: in less than twenty four hours by the same cop. 1287 01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:21,200 Speaker 5: That's even more embarrassing because of her driving history. She 1288 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,439 Speaker 5: will have to go to court for these and will 1289 01:00:23,560 --> 01:00:27,479 Speaker 5: almost certainly lose her license. And apparently Jack was mad 1290 01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 5: at her about it. Why does he even know about it? 1291 01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,720 Speaker 5: We should all know by now, because instead of going 1292 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 5: to her grandparents, she went back to him. I hung up, 1293 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,760 Speaker 5: But if you're not done reading this story, you don't 1294 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,440 Speaker 5: have to hang up the phone, and you can go 1295 01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 5: to our spodcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts wherever you listen 1296 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 5: to your podcast. Just search up Okay story Time for 1297 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:49,880 Speaker 5: more stories like this. What's wrong with her? Keon? 1298 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:52,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say therapy, but this is not good. 1299 01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: I don't think there's any excuse here. This girl has 1300 01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: been manipulated and emotionally and mentally. I guess you can 1301 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: say I feel bad for her, but like nothing is 1302 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,160 Speaker 1: gonna fix her. It seems like you gotta just take 1303 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: her away from this guy. I think you gotta put 1304 01:01:07,240 --> 01:01:10,000 Speaker 1: her somewhere where it's just like she can't really do. 1305 01:01:10,040 --> 01:01:12,360 Speaker 5: Much back to the story, so she and Jack are 1306 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,720 Speaker 5: completely screwed. Since he's going to jail and lost his job, 1307 01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:19,120 Speaker 5: he is sure to lose the kids and just about 1308 01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 5: everything else in the divorce. Apparently his wife is trying 1309 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 5: to take his very cool motorcycle, and I hope she 1310 01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 5: gets it. Anna will have nowhere to live because she 1311 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:31,480 Speaker 5: was never actually on his lease, and her job is 1312 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 5: at a different car dealership parking cars, so she will 1313 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:38,360 Speaker 5: probably lose that too, But I won't know because the 1314 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 5: next time she calls she will find out I finally 1315 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,640 Speaker 5: blocked her number. Ope, he got a spine and is strong. 1316 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,080 Speaker 1: I feel bad for Anna because that's just a terrible 1317 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,360 Speaker 1: life to live, but you brought that upon yourself, and 1318 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: you keep doing, keep going back. You're just gonna have 1319 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 1: to learn the hard way. And looks like she is. 1320 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 5: Hit the fire's hot. Stop touching it. 1321 01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: John here og host, We're gonna get back to these stories, 1322 01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 1: but a quick three minute break from hous from our sponsors. 1323 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: My ex confessed her feelings for me, but we are 1324 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:05,360 Speaker 1: both married. 1325 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,640 Speaker 5: That's why you don't go to high school reunions. 1326 01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 1: So this will be a weird one. I made a 1327 01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,320 Speaker 1: throwaway for it as I think it's a pretty unique 1328 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 1: situation that this person in question could very easily figure 1329 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,960 Speaker 1: out is about them. I don't want them knowing my man, 1330 01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 1: even if they have or use Reddit. I thirty five male, 1331 01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:26,080 Speaker 1: am happily married with two children. My wife thirty two female, 1332 01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,439 Speaker 1: and I have been together for eight years, married for four. 1333 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: By the way, this comes from user thrown away Underscore 1334 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:34,400 Speaker 1: Rebound on the ar Slash showcase Storytime Separate. So we 1335 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: were out shopping in our hometown when we ran into 1336 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,040 Speaker 1: my ex friend, her parents, and her children. She moved 1337 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 1: out of the state over ten years ago and I 1338 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen her since, nor have we had any contact 1339 01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,600 Speaker 1: other than Facebook happy birthday wishes? Do you do that 1340 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 1: with your exes? 1341 01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:50,040 Speaker 5: Nope? 1342 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: Sorry, she's married with two kids of her own. Anyway, 1343 01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,960 Speaker 1: onto the situation, My father in law and her father 1344 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,760 Speaker 1: are friendly with each other. They're both retired military, and 1345 01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,040 Speaker 1: they they occasionally have breakfast together with their other retired friends. 1346 01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:07,160 Speaker 1: When we ran into each other, her aka my ex 1347 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:10,640 Speaker 1: dad congratulated my wife and I on our children. We 1348 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 1: figured my father in law told them we were expecting 1349 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:15,160 Speaker 1: our third child. I saw my ex friend look at 1350 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,680 Speaker 1: my wife's belly and then acted distant for the rest 1351 01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,080 Speaker 1: of the exchange, whereas she was friendly starting off. We 1352 01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:24,400 Speaker 1: trade pleasantries and said goodbye. My wife and I continue 1353 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,840 Speaker 1: our shopping. By the time we're done, I checked my 1354 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,040 Speaker 1: phone and see I have a Facebook message from that 1355 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: ex friend. Ex friend says, it was good to see 1356 01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:35,440 Speaker 1: you again. I say you too. The family looks good. 1357 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 1: Ex friend yours too? Would you want to grab coffee 1358 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: and catch up. I'm in town for a couple more days. OP, 1359 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:46,760 Speaker 1: We're actually pretty busy, otherwise I would be down. I'm sorry, 1360 01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: ex friend, I understand adulting. Can I ask you a question? OP? Sure? 1361 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:56,080 Speaker 1: What's up? Ex friend? Was I just not your type? OP? 1362 01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,640 Speaker 1: What do you mean? Ex friend? I'm asking? What did 1363 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I do wrong? OPI didn't respond, as this was out 1364 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: of nowhere? 1365 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 5: Facts all right? I like that. 1366 01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:10,160 Speaker 1: Ex friend says, I pursued you for years. We were 1367 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,400 Speaker 1: inseparable for years, and you never gave us a real chance. 1368 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:17,840 Speaker 1: I loved you, our families loved us, our friends loved 1369 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 1: us together. You just never committed all the way for us. 1370 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 1: You wouldn't even have spicy sleep with me, and I 1371 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:26,240 Speaker 1: need to know. Why was I not good enough? Could 1372 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you not see yourself married to me and having a 1373 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: family together? 1374 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:34,920 Speaker 5: Hey, what does your husband Greg think about this? 1375 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 1: Let's talk to your husband about that. I didn't respond 1376 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:40,440 Speaker 1: and showed the messages to my wife. She knows of 1377 01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:43,560 Speaker 1: this girl and my reasoning for her and I growing apart, 1378 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,960 Speaker 1: mostly because we see her family everywhere, and she asked. 1379 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,920 Speaker 1: My wife told me to be honest with her, but 1380 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that's right. It feels mean. I'm 1381 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,480 Speaker 1: going to give my point of view on our friendship, 1382 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,439 Speaker 1: and I'm hoping I can get some advice on where 1383 01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,120 Speaker 1: to go from here. So basically, she and I I 1384 01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,080 Speaker 1: met through friends in high school. I was very interested, 1385 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: but she was dating someone at that time. She ended 1386 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: up asking me out a month or so later, and 1387 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:10,439 Speaker 1: we went on dates and kissed a few times, though 1388 01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:13,040 Speaker 1: we never had any conversation of being official, hence me 1389 01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: calling her friend and not girlfriend. One night, while riding 1390 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,360 Speaker 1: in the car, her who I thought was her ex boyfriend, 1391 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 1: called her and asked her when she'd be over. She 1392 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,320 Speaker 1: didn't have it on speaker, but I can still hear 1393 01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: the conversation. She told him. I can't talk right now, 1394 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: and he asked, who are you with. She didn't tell him. 1395 01:05:30,680 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: He later figured it out and messaged me on Facebook 1396 01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:36,280 Speaker 1: asking if I knew they were still together. I apologized 1397 01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,880 Speaker 1: and said I didn't, and I would cut things off. 1398 01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:41,919 Speaker 1: I called her and she started crying, saying she didn't 1399 01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,000 Speaker 1: have the courage to tell me they were still together, 1400 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,440 Speaker 1: but she liked me so much and was going to 1401 01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:49,240 Speaker 1: break up with him. I cut her off anyway. Woo. 1402 01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:52,240 Speaker 1: It's one of those things where, oh, wow, you're cheating 1403 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,920 Speaker 1: on two guys and you don't get either of them. Yeah, 1404 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:55,840 Speaker 1: she just wants more. 1405 01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:56,960 Speaker 5: I need more attention. 1406 01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,120 Speaker 1: I like you so much. Guess what, I guarantee you. 1407 01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,800 Speaker 1: She saying that to the other guy too. Oo, I 1408 01:06:01,960 --> 01:06:03,880 Speaker 1: like you so much. He's just a friend. 1409 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 5: He's just a friend. Don't worry about him. 1410 01:06:06,040 --> 01:06:08,440 Speaker 1: Fast forward a few more months and she reaches out 1411 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,360 Speaker 1: and we go through the same motions, her wanting to 1412 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:14,480 Speaker 1: be with me, but always having another guy messaging her 1413 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: that I would catch out of the corner of my eye. 1414 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:22,320 Speaker 1: This lasted embarrassingly for years throughout college in our early twenties. 1415 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,160 Speaker 1: It was always the same, She'd reach out, we'd reconnect, 1416 01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: and things begin getting series again. I'd check her social 1417 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:31,120 Speaker 1: media and see she just broke up with someone. We 1418 01:06:31,160 --> 01:06:33,480 Speaker 1: even went on vacation to the mount together for a 1419 01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 1: weekend and the same thing she had literally just been 1420 01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,840 Speaker 1: there a month ago with her ex. The trip with 1421 01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:41,800 Speaker 1: me was her idea. 1422 01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:45,240 Speaker 5: Maybe she wants you, but needs to make sure that 1423 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 5: with other guys she doesn't want that. She would like 1424 01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 5: to do the activity with you by checking with the 1425 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,480 Speaker 5: other guys first and then do them with you. That's 1426 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:52,920 Speaker 5: what I think. 1427 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to say this right now. She's but also 1428 01:06:55,880 --> 01:06:59,400 Speaker 1: o piece for falling for this many times. This seems 1429 01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 1: like it happened more than three times, where it's like 1430 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,680 Speaker 1: he's like this happened countless times. It's the same emotions 1431 01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,120 Speaker 1: over and over again. So you're kind of enabling her 1432 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:09,480 Speaker 1: and following her in her footsteps. She's treating you like 1433 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,880 Speaker 1: a little puppy. The worst part is both of our 1434 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: families really did love us together. My parents were never 1435 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:18,200 Speaker 1: rude to my girlfriends, But what asked me how ex 1436 01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: friend is doing these days? Or Snyder remarks about how 1437 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 1: her parents miss me. Heck, even my now father in 1438 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,920 Speaker 1: law at one point mentioned that X's dad brought up 1439 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,520 Speaker 1: how he really thought I'd be his son one day. 1440 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: I confide it in my friends years ago that I'm 1441 01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:35,960 Speaker 1: always just a rebound or backup plan, and that's why 1442 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: I can never commit or get more physical with her. 1443 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:39,880 Speaker 1: They told me just to sleep with her when she 1444 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,040 Speaker 1: comes calling, and don't pursue anything more. No, don't do that. 1445 01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: The problem was I wanted more but felt used. Anyways, 1446 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,640 Speaker 1: every time we would plan things out where spicy sleep 1447 01:07:51,920 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: was more than likely on the table, I'd see a 1448 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,200 Speaker 1: guy message her and or I'd see a post on 1449 01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,080 Speaker 1: social media, and it just ruined my enthusiasm. When I 1450 01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,640 Speaker 1: say that, I mean literally it crushed my confidence every 1451 01:08:03,800 --> 01:08:07,080 Speaker 1: single time. Again, like I said, you're like her little 1452 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,320 Speaker 1: puppy dog. She just wants you as a little lap 1453 01:08:09,360 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: dog and just like, oh yeah, let me play with 1454 01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: you for a little bit. No, don't give her the satisfaction. 1455 01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,080 Speaker 1: Don't keep doing it. But it seems like, oh, he 1456 01:08:17,160 --> 01:08:19,200 Speaker 1: keeps doing it. One of my best friends told me 1457 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have to pay attention to all of that 1458 01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:24,160 Speaker 1: nonsense and could have just had my fun with her. Also, 1459 01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:26,080 Speaker 1: don't do that. Didn't mean I had to chase a 1460 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,599 Speaker 1: relationship with knowing I was always a rebound that felt 1461 01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,320 Speaker 1: crappy to me. I had other girlfriends here and there, 1462 01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,080 Speaker 1: but I wanted this girl. We just clicked, you know. 1463 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: But it's like some sort of god dang mystical being 1464 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 1: was showing me a sign every single time things were 1465 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: going to progress our relationship. So every time he was like, 1466 01:08:44,320 --> 01:08:46,479 Speaker 1: oh I should do this, a guy's messaging her, or 1467 01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 1: like he sees like, oh, she just broke up with someone, 1468 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,680 Speaker 1: but like there's something something, It's always something. I just 1469 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,160 Speaker 1: didn't want her to be getting over someone else or 1470 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,400 Speaker 1: having someone on a back burner when we'd reconnect, and 1471 01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 1: that's what she does. She sees you as her plan 1472 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:00,880 Speaker 1: B or C. 1473 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 5: Yeah you're not second choice, buddy. 1474 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:04,280 Speaker 1: Your first choice. 1475 01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,240 Speaker 5: I think she likes to do this thing where she's 1476 01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:09,280 Speaker 5: always going after her next guy. So whenever she's with you, 1477 01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 5: she's always after her next guy. 1478 01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 1: She has you in like her back pocket. Whenever he's like, 1479 01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,840 Speaker 1: oh that's speed dial, like oh I need you, like 1480 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:17,559 Speaker 1: I just need comfort, I need a motion, I need 1481 01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: someone to talk to. 1482 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,400 Speaker 5: She's after her next guy, calling me her next guy. 1483 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:23,840 Speaker 1: And guess what, op he's feeding into it. Every single 1484 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: time I think he wants to be her friend, but 1485 01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: also he's like, I really like you, I really like her. 1486 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:29,360 Speaker 5: That's the one I need to see a picture of 1487 01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 5: these people. That's what I need. 1488 01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe she's just super hot. Maybe that's my own insecurity, 1489 01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:36,759 Speaker 1: but I know how I felt, and it didn't feel good. 1490 01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:40,600 Speaker 1: So I slowly distanced myself. After a short amount of 1491 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,240 Speaker 1: time passed, I met my wife, she met her husband, 1492 01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 1: and our lives moved on with little to no contact 1493 01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,520 Speaker 1: until the other day. I haven't responded to the messages 1494 01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,320 Speaker 1: and it's been two days. I was thinking of just 1495 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,680 Speaker 1: lying and saying it's not her fault, or just not responding, 1496 01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,800 Speaker 1: but my wife is insisting I tell her the whole thing. 1497 01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 1: I know this is a word wall, but I'm on conflicted. 1498 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Why are you conflicted? You are married and you have children. 1499 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,599 Speaker 1: She is married and she has children. 1500 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,639 Speaker 5: I mean, if your wife's excited about this, she can 1501 01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:11,360 Speaker 5: like type up a message and send it for you. 1502 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 1: I mean I would just be like, yeah, ghosting her 1503 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: is one thing. 1504 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 5: He's like, I'm done with this, Why are you doing this? Still? 1505 01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't think that's why he's conflicted. 1506 01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:18,679 Speaker 5: Ooh, he still has those like Dyleen. 1507 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,080 Speaker 1: I told my wife I was going to ask others 1508 01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: for their opinion, and I'm considering the internet as my others. 1509 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: We have some relevant comments here the Taco life. Ope, 1510 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: she's doing exactly the same thing she always did with you. 1511 01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,680 Speaker 1: I would bet all the cash in my wallet if 1512 01:10:35,720 --> 01:10:38,679 Speaker 1: you were able to look into her life. Her marriage 1513 01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,720 Speaker 1: is crumbling or her husband isn't paying enough attention to her. 1514 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: You were the great white whale that got away, and 1515 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,559 Speaker 1: she is trying to test the water to see if 1516 01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:50,000 Speaker 1: you're down to do the same old song and dance. 1517 01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:53,000 Speaker 1: Now even more of a challenge since you have a 1518 01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:57,479 Speaker 1: happy family and marriage. Don't engage with her. This sounds 1519 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,760 Speaker 1: exactly like the same cycle you described from your young 1520 01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: dad adulthood. Like I said, little puppy, what do you think? 1521 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, just keep living life. I wouldn't respond. 1522 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,240 Speaker 1: I wouldn't respond. I would tell her like, that's gross. 1523 01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:10,800 Speaker 1: And if you keep pursuing, I'm gonna tell your husband. 1524 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 5: I'm a screenshot away from ruining your marriage. Please stop 1525 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:14,240 Speaker 5: talking to me. 1526 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: We have an update. Thank you everyone for your responses. 1527 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,040 Speaker 1: I decided to listen to the majority and responded to 1528 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,960 Speaker 1: ex friend, let's call her a Ava, let's call her Eva. 1529 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,439 Speaker 1: The response was well received, and we chatted the rest 1530 01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:29,719 Speaker 1: of the week and met up on the weekend before Easter. 1531 01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,960 Speaker 1: The short of it is, we're both leaving our partners. 1532 01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,439 Speaker 5: What dude, that was none of my bingo part. 1533 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Where's the referee? 1534 01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 3: Like? 1535 01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,320 Speaker 1: No yellow flag? Ava and I are gonna try this 1536 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,920 Speaker 1: relationship again now that we completely open up to each 1537 01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 1: other about our true feeling. Thank you all for the 1538 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,200 Speaker 1: encouragement to do this. Couldn't have done it without you. 1539 01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: April fools, I would never I hate when they do that. 1540 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,599 Speaker 1: It really had us in the first half there they 1541 01:11:55,640 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: always do, They're so good at that. 1542 01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,959 Speaker 5: And then we went to the cabins. This all bigfoot 1543 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:00,240 Speaker 5: in the Lautinus monster. 1544 01:12:00,280 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 1: And the aliens abducted us. The real update is pretty 1545 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:07,400 Speaker 1: anti clomactic. Unfortunately, I ended up just never resplying to Ava. 1546 01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:07,920 Speaker 5: Nice. 1547 01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,240 Speaker 1: It had already been five days by the time I 1548 01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: read through every response and decided just to let it go. 1549 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:15,640 Speaker 1: My wife was fine with that, but told me to 1550 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,599 Speaker 1: block her if she messages me again. Smart. We did 1551 01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:21,600 Speaker 1: a couple Easter icons with different family members yesterday, including 1552 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,360 Speaker 1: at my father in law's. They have a decent sized 1553 01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:27,120 Speaker 1: property and host quite a few people, so I wasn't 1554 01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,679 Speaker 1: surprised to see non family members. I was, however, surprised 1555 01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,599 Speaker 1: when Ava's parents were there with her children. After all 1556 01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:37,080 Speaker 1: the adults scattered and hid the eggs. When the kids 1557 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,040 Speaker 1: started their search, Ava's dad came over to chat with me. 1558 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:42,559 Speaker 1: Nothing out of the ordinary, and we shot the craft 1559 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,080 Speaker 1: for a few minutes. By the way, you could shoot 1560 01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 1: the crap with us for more than a few minutes 1561 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,920 Speaker 1: because you can listen to full episodes with stories just 1562 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 1: like this. Just go to Spotify, Apple Podcast, or your 1563 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,280 Speaker 1: favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, there is a 1564 01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,719 Speaker 1: little bit more to this. But what do you think 1565 01:12:58,960 --> 01:12:59,920 Speaker 1: was that the right thing to go to? 1566 01:13:00,360 --> 01:13:03,760 Speaker 5: Yeah? It was. It was Okay, he's already done, Tom 1567 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,600 Speaker 5: and tell me again. He's married now, in a committed relationship. 1568 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:08,800 Speaker 1: He really had me with that. I was like, oh, no, 1569 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:11,200 Speaker 1: I hate when you people do that, but like it's fun. 1570 01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:12,880 Speaker 5: I should have called it. I should have been like, yeah, 1571 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,320 Speaker 5: that happened to me once before. 1572 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:16,280 Speaker 1: No, you did the right thing, you have a family, 1573 01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:19,559 Speaker 1: you're happy. Good on you. This never happens. But Opie 1574 01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,040 Speaker 1: communicated this with his wife that is true. He was like, look, 1575 01:13:23,160 --> 01:13:25,320 Speaker 1: and she was like, okay, well, what do you do 1576 01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:26,839 Speaker 1: about it? You have my full support. 1577 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 5: True. 1578 01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:29,000 Speaker 1: But back to the story. Towards the end, I asked 1579 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:30,920 Speaker 1: if the kids were staying with them for Easter, and 1580 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:33,400 Speaker 1: he basically told me Ava and her husband were having 1581 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,439 Speaker 1: some troubles and they needed some time alone to sort 1582 01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 1: things out. 1583 01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:38,280 Speaker 5: Who would have called it? 1584 01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:41,200 Speaker 1: We're not shocked here. He didn't go into specifics, so 1585 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,440 Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what the troubles were, but congratulations 1586 01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,559 Speaker 1: to those of you who called that one. For now, 1587 01:13:47,800 --> 01:13:50,680 Speaker 1: this should conclude the story. If she does happen to 1588 01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: reach out again and I feel it's worth letting you 1589 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: all know, then I will Otherwise thank you again. We 1590 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,639 Speaker 1: have a one more elevant comment and it's the same person, 1591 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,559 Speaker 1: the talc of Life. Oh my god, I knew it. 1592 01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:02,880 Speaker 1: I called this on the original post, that she and 1593 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,080 Speaker 1: her husband were having trouble and she was just trying 1594 01:14:05,080 --> 01:14:07,720 Speaker 1: to get the same old ego boost slash even more 1595 01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:11,639 Speaker 1: of one, because you are clearly very happily married. Congrats 1596 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: on the baby, by the way, Op, you win the 1597 01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,840 Speaker 1: Reddit gold Star of the Month for handling this like 1598 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: a god dang hero, excellent husband, and your wife is 1599 01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:24,000 Speaker 1: an awesome teammate slash bad but herself. Good job, Op. 1600 01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: She clearly just needed some attention, and even though you 1601 01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:29,400 Speaker 1: were married, had moved on and she'd be a home wrecker, 1602 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:32,640 Speaker 1: she didn't care, even asking why didn't you want me? 1603 01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 1: WAW after ten freaking years. This is obviously fishing for 1604 01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,320 Speaker 1: compliments and an ego boost, especially since she was the 1605 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: reason you never worked out. Maddening. You did the right 1606 01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,880 Speaker 1: thing one hundred percent edit spelling error that annoyed me, 1607 01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,760 Speaker 1: OP says, thank you. I know it's on the original post. 1608 01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,639 Speaker 1: You talked about it possibly being competitive. My wife said 1609 01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 1: the same based on her reaction to the pregnancy news, 1610 01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:56,640 Speaker 1: either competitive or possibly fertility issues after two children. To 1611 01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:59,519 Speaker 1: be honest, she's put a lot more thought into reasoning 1612 01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 1: than I have. And that's the end of that story. 1613 01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:02,720 Speaker 5: That's a good teamwork right there. 1614 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:05,360 Speaker 1: I like this good job, you did the right thing, 1615 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:06,160 Speaker 1: congrats 1616 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:07,719 Speaker 5: And that's it for that story.