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Speaker 1: I listen to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen.

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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackouts podcast. I'm

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Speaker 2: your host Rod, joined us always by my co host Kim,

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Speaker 2: and we're alive on a Sunday afternoon, easy, breezy Sunday

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Speaker 2: York Times bestselling author If what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I keep forgetting? How do I how do I

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Speaker 4: not echo?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I got to mute something right now?

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Speaker 2: I don't think Let me think on your side. I

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Speaker 2: want to say, it'll go away.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, I feel like I need to mute so

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Speaker 4: I can hear you from my headphones.

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Speaker 2: Oh so you got it set up where it's going

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Speaker 2: through your computer and not your headphones. Hello. Can you hear

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Speaker 2: a chef?

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Speaker 3: That's not working either? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: This is yeah, yeah, no, only goes away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 4: I thought I usually had to mute something so that

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Speaker 4: I wasn't hearing it through different It's been.

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Speaker 2: It's been. Honestly, what would it be without this? You know,

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Speaker 2: we don't do some but yeah, how you been? It's

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Speaker 2: I mean, it hasn't been like a long time since

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Speaker 2: we talked to you on the show. This time was

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Speaker 2: you know, we just kind of caught up with you

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Speaker 2: maybe a month or two ago. But you know, how's

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Speaker 2: house Tricks?

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Speaker 5: How is it?

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Speaker 3: How's tricks?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Hou'se tricks? How's things going?

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Speaker 3: Oh? Fine? No, things are? Things are okay because I

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Speaker 3: talked to you so much, but uh, things are better.

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Speaker 3: I think that they have been a little bit of

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Speaker 3: time and for that so I am I am dude.

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Speaker 4: Uh, Googie lost.

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Speaker 3: His sea and I took it very hard. I was upset.

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Speaker 3: I was like, why am I so upset they've lost games.

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Speaker 3: This team hasn't lost games before.

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Speaker 4: It was a bad loss, like they shouldn't have lost

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Speaker 4: or have lost, you know what I mean that feeling

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Speaker 4: where it's like, if they earned the loss, I'd be like,

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Speaker 4: all right, well, you know, whatever you win, somebody lose them.

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Speaker 3: But I was like, no, this is this is this

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Speaker 3: is not this is not right. It's like somebody made

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Speaker 3: like they were not supposed to lose.

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Speaker 2: It was and did you take it harder than he

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Speaker 3: Because because it's it was one of those things.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So he's he's in high school now and he's

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Speaker 4: a he's ah, he plays for his varsity high school team,

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Speaker 4: and he was playing against my old high school and

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Speaker 3: So it was like this, you know, cute little rivalry

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Speaker 4: Know, we're all friends, but we're you know, onto different teams.

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Speaker 4: And the first the first goal happened really quickly because

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Speaker 4: it was raining and the ball was wet, and it

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Speaker 3: You know, home field advantage, and.

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Speaker 4: It was it was stuff like that, like that they

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Speaker 4: didn't really earn the goals, like it was, oh, the

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Speaker 4: next goal. It was just like these weird things. It

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Speaker 4: wasn't like, oh, they're really like punishing.

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Speaker 3: Them, nothing like that. And so I couldn't even speak

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Speaker 3: And leave like four minutes before the game ended because

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Speaker 4: I was like, I can't even talk to y'all. And

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Speaker 4: and he says to me, he was like, it wasn't

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Speaker 4: a good game. We were off and then he says this,

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Speaker 4: and this is the thing that with him, Like his

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Speaker 4: last year. I would say, because he's a really talented player,

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Speaker 4: but he doesn't have but he just didn't have the mentality.

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Speaker 4: He got in the car and he was like, honestly,

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Speaker 4: they never should have taken me out of the game.

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Speaker 4: They never scored or came close to scoring when I

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Speaker 4: was in the gent I understand that I'm a freshman

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Speaker 4: and they need to get the upper class when you know,

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Speaker 4: more time on the field, but they need to figure

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Speaker 4: out a way to keep me on the field at

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Speaker 2: And I was like, well, I mean I feel like

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Speaker 2: that's a pretty healthy place. I mean, you know, for him.

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Speaker 2: You know obviously as parents, you know, people root for

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Speaker 2: their kids. And it's not like you're one of those

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Speaker 2: toxic parents just like you know, fuscinate him or some

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Speaker 2: shit like you should have fucking you should have kicked

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Speaker 2: all the goals. Like it's just one of those things

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Speaker 2: where losing does suck. But it's interesting how this will happen.

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Speaker 2: When we went to go watch my knees play basketball,

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Speaker 2: and it's just recreational. They're very young, they're still learning

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Speaker 2: the skills, like very basic stuff, and like Karen was

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Speaker 2: like literally rooting for them to like go out and

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Speaker 2: this isn't this is just like yay, you're making friends,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. You had you had the

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Speaker 2: confidence to try to dribble and shoot and and it

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Speaker 2: is that type of mentality that you have to approach

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Speaker 2: it with because the kids, I think the kids just

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Speaker 2: only absorb the adults pressure on them, and then that's

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Speaker 2: when the kids start turning bad.

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Speaker 5: Yes, and I had to learn by yeah, because I'm

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Speaker 5: used to watching like high schoolers and junior high schoolers

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Speaker 5: and adults play, you know, So I'm used to watching

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Speaker 5: things like when somebody double durbles the backcourt or three seconds.

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Speaker 5: I'm used to people calling those things. So at first, yes,

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Speaker 5: at first it was confused to me. I was like,

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Speaker 5: to come down. He's like, Karen is six thats just

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Speaker 5: not they got to play. You can't be fussing like

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Speaker 5: be like, and what's What's I understood that. It's like,

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Speaker 5: oh my expectations.

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Speaker 3: Lord.

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Speaker 5: I was like, oh, this is okay. It's okay if

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Speaker 5: they fuck up or don't play defense. It's okay if

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Speaker 5: she just stands there and let the girl run past her,

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Speaker 5: because she don't give a funk about being at the

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Speaker 5: first place. She only signed up because her parents like,

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Speaker 5: you gotta do this, gotta have something to do.

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Speaker 3: Today exactly, And that's what when he first, he started

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Speaker 3: playing when he was four, and I remember the first

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Speaker 3: time he got him on the field like my brothers and.

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Speaker 4: I think my sister was there too, and he was

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Speaker 3: Like like this, And then I was like, oh crap,

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Speaker 3: he's never seen soccer before. He literally has no idea

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Speaker 3: what he's supposed to do, right, he never seen this

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Speaker 3: game before this life. So to see him start there

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Speaker 3: And then but he's also like on that note, like

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Speaker 4: Plays club football with, and he played on the other

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Speaker 4: his and his dad was like, if you were where

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Speaker 4: you're supposed to be, you wouldn't have gotten hurt, like

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Speaker 4: yelled back.

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Speaker 3: From the from the.

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Speaker 4: Stands, And I was like, your child is hurt, right, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he's hurt like that, I don't that's more.

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Speaker 5: He was supposed to be on the field.

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Speaker 2: Is that thing too where you're like, because I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you are literally shaking and went to tweet it, but

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Speaker 2: it's also that thing.

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Speaker 3: Literally shaking It's also.

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Speaker 2: That thing where like, like I said, parents get caught

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Speaker 2: like to to the point where it is like you

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Speaker 2: know this, I remember we had my dad would coached

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Speaker 2: and the guy would coach his son. Oh like and

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Speaker 2: like he would coach his son over my dad. So

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Speaker 2: my dad's like, you know, demonte you know, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's his dad's like, just.

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Speaker 6: Shoot the ball, shoot the three, son, and then and

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Speaker 6: you're just like what everyone can hear you. You don't

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Speaker 6: even mind looking like a dick because you know everyone

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Speaker 6: here thinks you're a dick right now. None of us

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Speaker 6: were like, you know, that kid's gonna make it because

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Speaker 6: his dad yells at him.

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Speaker 5: Yes, nobody's going to get a scholarship at the end

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Speaker 5: of this game. Seven year olds. It's like, calm down.

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Speaker 4: The coaches, they're not gonna want like I understand, Like

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Speaker 4: I get caught up and we are like oh shoot

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Speaker 4: or dah da da, and then afterwards we're like you

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Speaker 4: can't see the angle, like you're saying shoot, but where

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Speaker 4: there's like four people behind us that you're not really like,

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Speaker 4: I can see the some ones coming up. So if

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Speaker 4: I do something like all this stuff, I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 4: well right whatever, I'm still gonna scream. But like coaches

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Speaker 4: don't want to, coaches will if your your kid would

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Speaker 4: Jordan's Yeah, as a sophomore in high school in order

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Speaker 4: for them to deal want to deal with a coach

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Speaker 4: with a father or a parent who was difficult to

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Speaker 4: rather just not deal with you if it's going to

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Speaker 4: be all that.

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Speaker 2: My favorite was during those games, they used to have

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Speaker 2: this one black lady that came and she just rooted

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Speaker 2: for everybody and she was like super loud. She's like

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Speaker 2: everyone's mom, but it was only positive things. And I

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Speaker 2: just remember every time soon with shoot a free throw,

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Speaker 2: she just go being their knees baby for everybody. Just

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Speaker 2: I was like, I can't wait to shoot free throws

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Speaker 2: be my knees. A positive because because it's so few

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Speaker 2: people that are gonna take sport to any level beyond

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Speaker 2: like maybe high school. If you're lucky, you know, hopefully college,

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Speaker 2: you know, especially if you can get something paid for.

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Speaker 2: But it's just it's so hard to make it. And

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Speaker 2: some of the stuff with soccer. So we're just like,

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Speaker 2: if you weren't on the list of people who are

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Speaker 2: good at soccer when you were fifteen, like people were

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Speaker 3: Wasted like when you were six, seven, eight, nine.

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Speaker 4: But I took that loss hard, and he understood why

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Speaker 3: And I tell the coach that I.

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Speaker 2: But than y'all yeah, Well, there's also like levels to it,

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Speaker 4: you have to know, Boogie is like the sweetest kid

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Speaker 3: But yesterday he said something. So he said something. I

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Speaker 5: I said, look you, mama, get your bitch ass off me.

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Speaker 2: You know, you don't need to know everything, So now

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Speaker 3: Respect that that kid.

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Speaker 2: like if it's any like, I'm me adjusted. Sometimes we

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Speaker 3: So once that energy goes up, they they want to

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Speaker 2: I always feel like, well, I'm an I love the

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Speaker 2: But I love it because the coaches always take out

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Speaker 2: that's such that's such a dope thing because it's about

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Speaker 2: for the kids who are quote unquote taking it seriously.

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00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,239
Speaker 2: But for like rec league people always kind of liked

436
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,959
Speaker 2: that idea because like it would feel weird to be like, well,

437
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,760
Speaker 2: first of all, your parents had to pay for this shit, right, right,

438
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,080
Speaker 2: so that's like that's so that's another thing that's funny.

439
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,679
Speaker 2: They'll put it on the kids on like you know

440
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 2: why they're giving trophies right because parents.

441
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 5: Had five hundred dollars and they refuse the fact that

442
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 5: their kids is not gonna get treated special.

443
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 2: But it's always interesting because at the end of the season,

444
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: it would be like, you know, hey, you, I remember

445
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: when you first got here and you couldn't even do this,

446
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: and now look at you. You're doing this and that's

447
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,679
Speaker 2: what this is. And everyone class for them and stuff,

448
00:21:55,880 --> 00:22:00,199
Speaker 2: and the kids never thought it for any second. My

449
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: participation trophy is the same as his MVP trophy. I

450
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 2: am the same. We are, like the kids.

451
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Speaker 7: Know who's good.

452
00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 5: You don't know why their studid.

453
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: And I tried.

454
00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: Are they doing anything for like ahead, sorry, well I

455
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 2: was gonna ask for real quick, are they doing anything

456
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 2: different under like the pandemic, Like have they had to

457
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 2: change any of the way they do stuff? Or is

458
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: it all kind of the same since as outdoors.

459
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Speaker 3: Are not.

460
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Speaker 4: This year, his school especially has been really good about

461
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 4: like eighty seven percent of the students are vaccinated.

462
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,800
Speaker 3: The ones who aren't vaccinated that.

463
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: It's like health reasons or just something like, but eighty

464
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 4: seven percent are vaccinated.

465
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,880
Speaker 3: They have to every literally every day before school.

466
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Speaker 4: There's an app on their phones that they have to like,

467
00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: I haven't you know all the standard COVID question students

468
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 4: that they.

469
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: Ask is on an app.

470
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 4: And if you answer anything and you have to put

471
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 4: your your temperature, everything, anything is weird, then you can't

472
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 4: come to school. They test students who want to be tested,

473
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 4: and the ones who aren't vaccinated have to be tested

474
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 4: every Tuesday. And so a couple of days ago we

475
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,479
Speaker 4: got an email because out of the one hundred and

476
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,919
Speaker 4: sixty seven students that were tested, two of them tested

477
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 4: positive no symptoms and not vaccinate, all that stuff. And

478
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: you know, they can't tell us who, but they're like

479
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: anybody who was in close contact, We've already notified them,

480
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,600
Speaker 4: so they already know who was around them. So they

481
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 4: shut it down. So all that to say, because of that,

482
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,120
Speaker 4: it's it's you know, we have to wear a mask

483
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,400
Speaker 4: to go inside the locker room or the sports complex

484
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: in order to you know, use the restroom or get

485
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 4: snacks or whatever.

486
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 3: But outside it's fine. But they're yeah, they're really doing

487
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,920
Speaker 3: their they're really doing their jobs. I don't know how they.

488
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: Did it or what I mean, because it's it's it's

489
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,440
Speaker 4: pretty much a black school. It's whatever the high school

490
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 4: equivalent of HBCU is. It's that it's the black private

491
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 4: school in this area. And so no games are being played,

492
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like they're not taking any

493
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 4: risk whatsoever.

494
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 2: So now that's dope man, that they care like that,

495
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,720
Speaker 2: because like I said, you know, we hear some nightmare

496
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 2: stories out there or you're just like, uh say what now,

497
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, just like what my rife? Yeah,

498
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: uh tuski And you're just like, I don't think that

499
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 2: is anything to do with what you're talking about. Balls,

500
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,159
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly my cousin. Have you heard about my cousin's balls?

501
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 2: Like this is this is not okay what's happening at

502
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 2: this school right now? So that is dope that you have,

503
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 2: Like you know, that's a positive experience because like I said,

504
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 2: there's been some nightmares out there are the like how

505
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 2: is having a kid in school right now? Because like

506
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 2: that's the last thing, right for everybody is to like

507
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 2: I mean not the last thing, but like when people

508
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 2: talk about vaccinations and stuff, it's like the kids, the

509
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 2: kids without how can my kid wear a mask? It'll

510
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 2: affect his mental health and all that type of stuff,

511
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 2: Like is that something you were ever concerned about or okay, so.

512
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: It's always concerned about in this area. Public school in

513
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 4: private schools, there's everyone had an option to do online,

514
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 4: you know, not like you know, the pharaoh coming in

515
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: and like forcing it the first born to like go

516
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 4: to school.

517
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Speaker 3: Like, it's not that if you weren't comfortable with if

518
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,200
Speaker 3: you weren't comfortable.

519
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 4: With it, if you didn't want to get vaccinated, you

520
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 4: didn't want to get tested, then you get to stay

521
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 4: home and and do virtual learning.

522
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: But I think that the issue is that kids wanted.

523
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 4: I mean one thing that that that the that the

524
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,120
Speaker 4: right wing gets right, I guess is that kids do

525
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 4: want to be in school, Like, they do want to

526
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 4: be around their friends, they do want to have like

527
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 4: a school experience. It's just up to like the adults

528
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 4: in charge.

529
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: To make it safe or make it make sense.

530
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 4: So if you're not going to ask people to get vaccinated,

531
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Speaker 4: and you're gonna turn it into like this big you know,

532
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:21,120
Speaker 4: political statement of like constitutional rights or whatever, then you're

533
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: now you're making it weird, you know, like you know

534
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,200
Speaker 4: how like when the little kid falls down and you're

535
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 4: not supposed to react or else they'll you know whatever.

536
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 3: It's like that, like you're making a big deal when.

537
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 4: Yes, the kids want to go to school, Yes they

538
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: want to be around their friends, but it's up to you.

539
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: As people in charge, to make it safe for them

540
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: to do that.

541
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 4: Right, So you can't be like if we were in Texas,

542
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: he wouldn't be in school, he would be he would

543
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 4: be at.

544
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: Home because I can't count any of y'all to do

545
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 3: what's necessary.

546
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 4: Whereas here we have a Republican mayor governor here, but

547
00:26:56,640 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 4: he's been his dumb ass voted for Ronald Reagan. Mm

548
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 4: hmmm anyway, because he didn't he wouldn't vote for Trump.

549
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: I was like, niggah, way, oh shit, okay, I like

550
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: I like in nineteen eighty.

551
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:20,359
Speaker 5: I was for I mean one to get some I know,

552
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 5: like I got a Twitter year grip.

553
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 3: Hold him grudges, I will never let it go good on.

554
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so he's yeah, he's a Republican governor, but

555
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 4: I think his he or his wife one of them

556
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: are immuno compromised, so they weren't playing any games when

557
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: it came to like getting things under under lock.

558
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 3: But but yeah.

559
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 4: So I feel I feel that everyone has taken I

560
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: trusted everybody.

561
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 3: I trusted the people that.

562
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 4: I'm around and the people that I made conscious decisions

563
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 4: to be around, and then conscious decisions to have either

564
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 4: him or his friends or whoever around. They feel the

565
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 4: same way I do. So no one's taking any like

566
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 4: any dune risks, right because I do believe it's important

567
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 4: for them to be in school, especially if and that's.

568
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 3: Another thing, and I think you and I talk about it.

569
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 3: It's a lot, right, people who are.

570
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 4: Already like predisposed to not wanting to be around people

571
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 4: make these restrictions about that as opposed to the fact

572
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 4: that there are some people who do want to go

573
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 4: to the office, and there are some people who work

574
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 4: better when they're outside of their house, who are not

575
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,719
Speaker 4: having a good time at home, and they're not weird

576
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 4: or abnormal or or putting everybody at risk. But you

577
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: have to understand that people have different ways of coping

578
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 4: with this thing, and your way of staying at home

579
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: and being with your cats and plants or whatever that's yours. Nothing,

580
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: but you would have on to that anyway, Like if

581
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: there was some other reason besides a pandemic for you

582
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 4: to have stayed home and never leave your house and

583
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 4: only order uber eats, you would have taken that too.

584
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: So don't make it about that, do you You know

585
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 3: what I mean?

586
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: So for me, I saw, especially last year when he

587
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 4: was in middle school, his grades, like he went from

588
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 4: from from honor student to like.

589
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 3: Failing, like failing math. He was failing everything, Like it

590
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 3: was like shocking.

591
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 4: We were like, what what is I don't want to

592
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: live at school? And that's what it feels like. I

593
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 4: feel like I live at school and and it just

594
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 4: wasn't a good thing for him.

595
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 3: So there are a couple of kids, like I.

596
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 4: Thought, staying at home because he's an only child. There

597
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: are forty eight computers here. He has no other people

598
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 4: that he's you know, he's not fighting for Wi Fi

599
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 4: right or quiet study space with anybody. So I thought, oh,

600
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 4: let the kids who need to be in school, be

601
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: in school.

602
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 3: And you be here. But I didn't. I took for

603
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: granted that he is a kid that needs to be

604
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 3: in school.

605
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 4: He does need the outside stimulus, he does need the

606
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 4: break between home and you know, school at home to

607
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 4: function and thrive, like he needs that. So all the

608
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: people who are like very adamant about kids can't be

609
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 4: in school right now. There's there's a there's a there's

610
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 4: a there's a there's another option, and there's another way

611
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: to think about it that isn't just about if you

612
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: want kids in school.

613
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 3: Then you want them to die or whatever like those extremes.

614
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: I think, and I think because the most extreme people

615
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: are the ones talking when I think if if I'm

616
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: told you told everybody to close their eyes and like

617
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: talk about like what what they were against, it's not

618
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: I don't think you will find that people are truly

619
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 2: against kids going to school. It's just this idea of

620
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,960
Speaker 2: they won't be safe. Yes, Like it's it's like because

621
00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: when I think of I know, when I hear the

622
00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 2: terms like kids going to school, I immediately think of

623
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: the places that are like and we're not wearing masks

624
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 2: and we ain't telling you if your kids get no restricts,

625
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 2: and we're not and we don't give a fuck. If

626
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: you're not coughing and dying, then come to work, you know.

627
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: And so I know, my mind goes that because I've

628
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: just been indoctrinated through the Internet of all these extremists

629
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: that are just you know, constantly spewing and shit where

630
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: you know, it is true that in a lot of

631
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: places they've had schools, they've had masks, they've had social distances,

632
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: those distancing and they've allotted for kids to be able

633
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: to learn from home if that, you know, like to

634
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 2: a certain amount, and you know, it seems to be

635
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: going fine without too many of these like we're not

636
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: reading a lot of like you know, six thousand kids

637
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: got got sick from those districts. But the but the

638
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: stories that I do read about kids getting sick are

639
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 2: from Texas. Yeah, no restriction and stuff like that, and

640
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: and like you know, I'm sure read yeah, Georgia. And

641
00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: so I think in my mind it's become a thing

642
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: where I'm associating school with that, whereas well where everyone's

643
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 2: kind of back in school and that's not the norm

644
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: for everyone. New York's back in school, and everyone thought

645
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: that was gonna be a terrible idea, but it seems

646
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 2: to be working. So yeah, yeah, you're absolutely right about

647
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: the panic. And then the other part is parents because

648
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: of how school functions is kind of like a babysitter,

649
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: and parents are being told to go back to work.

650
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: It's just not the option. It was a year and

651
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: a half ago when somewhere a lot of businesses closed

652
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: down because the school's closed down. A lot of businesses

653
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: are like, get vaccinated, Come you'll ask into work or

654
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Speaker 2: getting fired. That's not necessarily gonna leave you in a

655
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Speaker 2: position to be like my kid who's not old enough

656
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Speaker 2: to get vaccinated, can stay at home or come to

657
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Speaker 2: work with me. No, they're gonna have to go back

658
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Speaker 2: to school, and the only option for you is to

659
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Speaker 2: hope they do it safely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I mean I'm pro vaccine mandate.

661
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Speaker 4: I feel like if you are eligible, if like, okay, So,

662
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Speaker 4: so he can't take the flu vaccine because he's allergic

663
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Speaker 4: to egg yolk and I think that it's made with eggy.

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Speaker 3: Or something.

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Speaker 2: Egg yo not egg white.

666
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Speaker 3: Hits an omelet.

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Speaker 4: Uh uh So, so when they started making it, you know,

668
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Speaker 4: twelve and up could take it, I called.

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Speaker 3: His doctor, and I said, he's allergic to the flu vaccine.

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Speaker 4: You know, is there anything in this vaccine that he

671
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Speaker 4: should be worried about? Doctor said no, And so he

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Speaker 4: got it.

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Speaker 3: You know, yeah, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I didn't wait and start like, well, let me see

675
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Speaker 4: if there's anybody who died.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well you got it. You know, after that, you

677
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: gotta go on Facebook and then start following like celebrities

678
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Speaker 2: that say not to get it. I mean, that's you know,

679
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Speaker 2: that's the next step in your research, you know, the

680
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Speaker 2: first research you call your die.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'd have waited, if I would have.

682
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Speaker 4: Waited just four months, then Nicki Minaj could have saved

683
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Speaker 4: his life.

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Speaker 3: And his ball.

685
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like now you've got a son with small balls.

686
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Speaker 2: He can't play soccer that way, but nobody if he

687
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 2: ever hears he's gonna be like my mom was talking

688
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Speaker 2: about my balls on the podcast. And I don't.

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Speaker 4: I just I just I just feel like, uh, I

690
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Speaker 4: just feel like there was a there's there's a case

691
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Speaker 4: to be made about being as you know, as uh

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Speaker 4: hyperbolic as possible in order to to.

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Speaker 3: Illustrate the seriousness of what is that we've encountered.

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Speaker 4: But I also feel like two years in, I cannot

695
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 4: I cannot do this with y'all anymore. Like I just

696
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: can't do it with you guys. I'm not I can't

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Speaker 4: believe we're still having this conversation. I can't believe we're

698
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Speaker 4: still you know, I can't believe we're still doing this.

699
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Speaker 4: I know that we are, but like, I'm just not

700
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Speaker 4: going to be part of that conversation anymore. I was

701
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: in Texas last week for my first uh you know,

702
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Speaker 4: uh like speaking event in two years since it's all started,

703
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Speaker 4: and people in Texas just like it's like the the

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Speaker 4: masks are are required like a certain places like the

705
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Speaker 4: like the like the like the airport. But I was

706
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Speaker 4: watching these white people who look like they were prepared

707
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Speaker 4: to argue, do you know what I mean? You know

708
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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like like they had a mask on,

709
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Speaker 4: but they had a like like like just like like here,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, and.

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Speaker 2: Nostrils like okay, you just have it on your body exactly.

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Speaker 4: I was like, as soon as if somebody were to

713
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Speaker 4: come to you and say, put your mask on whatever,

714
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Speaker 4: you're ready to argue and you're ready to fight. You're

715
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Speaker 4: ready to talk about your rights and Trump really want

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Speaker 4: like you're.

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Speaker 3: Ready to do that. So me knowing that, I was like,

718
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna stand next to any of you.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to sit as far as possible. I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: have double mask. I'm gonna make sure blah blah because

721
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Speaker 4: you I'm not gonna argue with you. I'm just not

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Speaker 4: say I'm just not.

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna make sure that the people that I

724
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Speaker 3: spend the most time around are are vaccinated. It's like

725
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Speaker 3: I told you. Somebody came over and I was like,

726
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Speaker 3: I don't even know if y'all have vaccinated.

727
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm not looking for a viol on it,

728
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Speaker 2: Like I'm not. I don't want to go live on

729
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Speaker 2: Instagram and with my confrontation of the maskless care like

730
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: that's not my desire at all. My desires to get

731
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Speaker 2: groceries and to go back home. So like that's what

732
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Speaker 2: the fuck I'm gonna do. And I just lating to

733
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Speaker 2: the pandemic. There's no one who doesn't know. So if

734
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Speaker 2: someone's not wearing a mask, they made a choice. They

735
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 2: made a choice to come in that place seeing that

736
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Speaker 2: sign and saying fuck it, I'm not you know what

737
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: someone else's job. I'm not the vigilant. I'm not the

738
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Speaker 2: mask vigilante, and I think that's a you know, at

739
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Speaker 2: least for me, that's the reasonable way to be. But

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Speaker 2: I think some people, because it's not just the unvaccinated,

741
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,320
Speaker 2: vaccinated people are angry too, and people.

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Speaker 5: Have to tend me to forget that. They act like

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Speaker 5: the unvaccinated only people mad everybody to be with.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you can kind of pick up there's certain

745
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 2: people that want to fight about it, you know, even

746
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 2: online and stuff, and I think that's where a lot

747
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: of the conflict comes from. Where, you know, people were

748
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 2: blaming the CDC for shit that I was like, that's

749
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: not even close to the CDC's fault. Well why didn't

750
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 2: they Why did they say we should even take off

751
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,400
Speaker 2: the mask? Well, because at the time, the delta variant

752
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: wasn't here and the vaccines were ninety effective against the

753
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: current variants and science change, they had no fucking reason

754
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 2: to tell you not to put on the mask. But

755
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: you know what they told, you know what they told

756
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 2: people that weren't vaccinated to keep wearing a fucking mask.

757
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: Don't try to make that their fault. Because because the

758
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: science was the science. And then it was, well, how

759
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 2: come you told us put the mask back on? We'll

760
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: see now they have science that says that the delta

761
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 2: varians breads faster and puts out more. So they did

762
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Speaker 2: the thing you wanted them to do and say, put

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Speaker 2: the mask back on. And you know what, the people

764
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Speaker 2: who are unvaccinated and never put mask on in the

765
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: first place are doing the same shit they've been doing

766
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Speaker 2: that they don't care. They're not waiting on CDC guidance,

767
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 2: They're waiting on Donald Trump guidance. We can't be letting

768
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Speaker 2: the whole society rest on these people's ignorance. And uh,

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Speaker 2: it's why I love what Joe Biden did, because he

770
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: just asserted his full straight white man privilege and was like,

771
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Speaker 2: y'all gonna put on this motherfucking vaccine. I know that

772
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 2: much like, oh, put on a mask, put on a mask.

773
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Speaker 2: Oh that's too late for put on a mask. We

774
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: had put we had put in some vaccine. So everyone

775
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: getting this shot. I will turn this car around. God

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Speaker 2: help me.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Like he was like, you fed to realize I

778
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 5: am the federal government. If you are a federal worker,

779
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 5: get this shot, lose your job, you know, it's about

780
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 5: a federal worker, and.

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Speaker 3: Be mad about it.

782
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: Like be mad about it, like there are people who

783
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 4: are quitting and then wanting people supposed to be upset

784
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 4: with them. No, like you know, you know what this is.

785
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: You're supposed to do this or not do this?

786
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Speaker 5: Right then they shot because they was listening to their

787
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 5: friends online and they was like, I'm gonna get unemployment.

788
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Speaker 5: No bitch, you don't. You get no unemployment. You get

789
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Speaker 5: no insurance. You they don't even offer you that expensive

790
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 5: ass cobra. You get nothing.

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Speaker 2: My favorite higher, my high right now is the stories

792
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:28,399
Speaker 2: of people quitting and then coming back. So I look

793
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 2: for jobs and apparently everyone said you gotta have a vaccine.

794
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,879
Speaker 2: Apparently it's y'all still hiring cuz you know, I'm gonna

795
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 2: go ahnd and get it. And I'm like, yeah, let's

796
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: the fuck your ass get come your ass back. Oh man.

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Speaker 5: They started like Delta be like you know what, two

798
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: hundred extra more dollars a month. They was like, oh

799
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Speaker 5: word for some ship. This prey put this free ship

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Speaker 5: in my.

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Speaker 2: Own Yeah, it's really my jam right now. I love

802
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: these stories. Matter of fact, we got a bunch of

803
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Speaker 2: uh you know, since it hasn't been that long. We

804
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: can go ahead and get into some new stuff with Bossy.

805
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Speaker 2: You know, this is what I was telling right the

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Speaker 2: other day where she was like, we didn't get to

807
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 2: cover any news. Right, come back more often and we

808
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 2: get to talk bullshit. We don't have to like talk

809
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 2: to them like I got this project coming up. We

810
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: can just talk. Yeah, So let's do.

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Speaker 3: Some don't say that yeah I got I got opinions.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's get into these opine Let's talk about coronavirus news.

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Speaker 2: That'll do a little bit of this first.

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 7: Look, did we go again?

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Speaker 1: We got er Yans really need to keep a mesk

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Speaker 1: on hand and follow the plan. Get the vaccine in

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Speaker 1: second shots, whether woman the man black out who tips

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Speaker 1: is doing their part, but the dumbest expand niggas we'd

828
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Speaker 1: rather believe a bunch of misinformation. Sha fuck y'all idiots

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Speaker 1: not getting shots now. We gotta regrets. If we keep

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Speaker 1: going in this direction, we never can rest, never can't

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Speaker 1: get back to the last we be living the best.

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Speaker 1: Damn fool stopped the lion. Stop the intubation crying because

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Speaker 1: it's your fucking motherfucker's dying. Damn fool stopped the lion,

834
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Speaker 1: stopped the benilateated crying because it's your fucking motherfucker's dying.

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Speaker 2: I do not.

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Speaker 7: Understand this shit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of this.

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Speaker 7: We were like one win from the Pandemic Championship.

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Speaker 1: The fuckers want to leave it to Game seven with

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Speaker 1: Yanni stel to Coupo flocking forward progression.

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Speaker 7: And Chris Middle figures to your plans.

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Speaker 1: Man, dam looks like it's no Drew Holliday for you

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00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 1: and your man. Some sick of black people crying for real.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just writing this new piece to let you

845
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Speaker 1: know how I feel. Coronavirus, y'all. Fuck that COVID nineteen

846
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,239
Speaker 1: is unseen. It's creeping in the air for you to breathe. Yeah,

847
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Speaker 1: huh so, fuck that COVID nineteen.

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Speaker 7: It's unseen. It's creeping in the air for you to reading.

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Speaker 2: Coronavirus coronavirus news.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club hits Joy Reid for a vaccine scolding.

852
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:13,839
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj invokes MSNBC's host skepticism under Trump. Uh so,

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00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj, you know, of course said her cousin in

854
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Speaker 2: Trinidad's friend, uh got the vaccine and was impotent in

855
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: his testicle swoll up and uh.

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Speaker 3: And his wedding got yeah, and his wedding got.

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Speaker 2: I mean it literally sounds like a joke, you know.

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Speaker 2: And uh, she has twenty three million followers on Twitter,

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00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: and she was trending on Twitter, and everyone spending a

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Speaker 2: lot of time trying to correct her or you know,

861
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 2: coming at her to like educate her, or you know,

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Speaker 2: just kind of like scold her, because, like I said,

863
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 2: vaccinated people are angry too. I think I think I

864
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 2: think people believe that because being unvaccinated is so unreasonable,

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Speaker 2: that those are the only motherfuckers mad. And it's just

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00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 2: like have y'all seen when anyone expresses some bullshit, everyone

867
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: is very upset right now. You know my advice, if

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Speaker 2: you really do need to get educated on something or

869
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 2: you have questions, google that ship. Don't don't hit the

870
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 2: timeline with that if you truly genuine mean it. And

871
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: that's if you do. But I don't think Nikki does

872
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: mean it. But so Joy Reid basically went on her

873
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 2: show and did like a little segment where she talked

874
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: about how you know you got twenty two million followers

875
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 2: and you know, I'm disappointed in you. I'm a fan,

876
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: I'm a hip hop fan, and I'm sad that you

877
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: did that. And you know you don't think you don't

878
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: think on second, I wonder.

879
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: She's not She's not a what are they called a bar?

880
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 3: I don't think so are we.

881
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: Here's one thing. Are you a Nikki fan? Or do

882
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: you like her verse off a monster?

883
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 3: You know, like I called the monsters? Yeah, because that's

884
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 3: that's the only thing I can think of.

885
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 2: There's a difference, you know what I'm saying.

886
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 3: Different.

887
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: But but it is funny that, you know, Joy does

888
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 2: spend this time on her show doing this because of

889
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: course she then becomes she's now she's the bully, like

890
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: so then every like the Breakfast Club The Daily Show,

891
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: they kind of imply like, shame on Joy read for

892
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: addressing this and shaming this woman. And Joy Reid had

893
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 2: a tweet from a year ago where she was vaccine

894
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 2: hesitant because she said she didn't know she would trust

895
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: a vaccine that was made under the Trump administration, which,

896
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: while being a kind of valid, uh, I can understand

897
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 2: that one. It's that thing where once you express something

898
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 2: like that with the position you have, you do put

899
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: yourself in a position where you can later be that

900
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: can be called back, like you know, twitters forevers, Well

901
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 2: you said this too, so that they got she got

902
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 2: a lot of disused and shit like that. And I

903
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: think ultimately it worked out enjoys favor though, because the

904
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: next few days Nikki's just been on a tear saying

905
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: some like apparn shit like siding with white supremacists, retweeting

906
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson and the Niche de Zuza and all this

907
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 2: type of shit. So it you know, at the end

908
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 2: of the day, Joy I think ultimately was right, even

909
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: if part of the reason she was right is because

910
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 2: she kind of elevated Nikki into a serious person by

911
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 2: treating her seriously.

912
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that that that was my issue, Like

913
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 4: that's when because I feel like, and you know, you

914
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 4: said that vaccinating people are angry too, and I agree,

915
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 4: but I also think that there is a level of

916
00:45:55,760 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 4: self righteousness that always shows up when it comes to

917
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,359
Speaker 4: anything that's been politicized for any reason. Right, So you're right,

918
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 4: people should get vaccinated. You're right people should be educated

919
00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 4: on what it is that dah dah da da dad.

920
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 4: But the way that you that folks come at people

921
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,720
Speaker 4: turns it into an emotional response as opposed to because

922
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: you're telling people trust science, which you're coming at them

923
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 4: with an emotional response and a plea. And I feel

924
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 4: like that's more about you than it is about whatever

925
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 4: the conversation is supposed to be. Right, So my thing

926
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 4: was she lie about her cousin, like attack that, like

927
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 4: there's no you trying to educate her made her think

928
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 4: because she kept saying after a while, she was like

929
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 4: anybody who thinks for themselves and they don't like intelligent

930
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 4: black women. And it's like, nigga, you are stupid, like

931
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 4: you are dumb, like nothing you said was smart. But

932
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 4: because people are approaching you as though you had a

933
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 4: valid point, then that's when you. But I wanted more

934
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 4: people to be like, you are lying, which cousin, when

935
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 4: did that happen? Show us some Like I wanted people

936
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 4: to stay on that because that was the obvious thing

937
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: that she was lying about and that she could not dodge.

938
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 3: But they they, they they turned that into a joke,

939
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: into a meme, and then they took the rest of

940
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 3: it seriously trying to educate her. It's like, she doesn't

941
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 3: need to be educated because she's not. She's not. I

942
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 3: was gonna say she's.

943
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 4: Not uneducated, but clearly she is. But like, it's not

944
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 4: even about that with her at this point. Her ego

945
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 4: is fighting now, she's she's not going to back down

946
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: at all because now people are coming, and then she

947
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 4: has like, and I believe this of everybody, no matter

948
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: what side you are on, if you have people who

949
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 4: are only there yes man, you, then you're never going

950
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 4: to listen to anybody that has anything right to say.

951
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to get into like some

952
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 4: of the other stuff we talked about, but like, no

953
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: matter what the issue is, if you have a group

954
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 4: of people who only and always tell you that you're

955
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 4: doing the right thing for the right reasons, you're never

956
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 4: gonna back down, and you're never gonna back down. You

957
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 4: can't back down, so people cannot come at you, and

958
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 4: they can't attack you, or they can't they can't confront

959
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: you with truth because truth was never the issue.

960
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 3: The issue was your ego, So attack that not attacking.

961
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 4: But you know what I mean, Like, that's the angle

962
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 4: that I feel like people should have, because people turned

963
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 4: the cousin thing into a meme and then took the

964
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 4: rest of her serious.

965
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 3: I was like, none of this is serious, None of

966
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 3: this is serious. Call her a liar, because what is

967
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: she gonna do with that?

968
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: Like she can she can sidestep and you know, duck

969
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 4: duck and dodge all that other stuff. But if you're like,

970
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 4: you're lying about your cousin because this is not true,

971
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 4: then what is she left to do?

972
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

973
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 4: And that's what was bothering me about this whole thing.

974
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 5: And I think too, for a lot of people. I'm

975
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 5: with Roderick and with you, there are people mad at

976
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 5: both sides. And when you're talking about emotional the thing

977
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 5: is a lot of the unvaccinated people, they come from

978
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 5: an emotional place with their arguments. In the first place.

979
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: So the vaccinated people are coming with emotions too.

980
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: You mad, I'm mad.

981
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 5: Let's all be mad. Let's all be emotionally attacking each other.

982
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 5: Because it's like I said, I think that how you

983
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 5: approach people matter a lot, particularly on social media. A

984
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 5: lot of unvaccinated people. They're loud, they're wrong, they don't

985
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:29,319
Speaker 5: want to hear nobody. They talk condescending, they call y'all

986
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 5: types of they try to ain't like you're stupid. Well,

987
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 5: then when I come back and reach at you with

988
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 5: the same energy that you put out, why am I

989
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 5: considered wrong for telling you and using the same energy

990
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 5: that you put out, I'm not wrong. We can both

991
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 5: be loud in the room. And I think that's what's

992
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 5: happening online.

993
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 2: I think the initial framing of it with Joy and

994
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:53,360
Speaker 2: Trevor and even the breakfast club is this idea of like,

995
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 2: but she wants to be educated, like she's so she's

996
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: just had some questions. And then the second thing that happens,

997
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: and this happens when anybody's mad at anybody, you go

998
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: what their platform, because it becomes a platform. The second

999
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: you don't like what somebody's doing, it's just like you

1000
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 2: have a platform. But I'm like, is Nicki Minaj a

1001
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 2: source of vaccine information for twenty two million?

1002
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: Any information? Has she ever been the voice of reason

1003
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: in any situation?

1004
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 4: What makes you think that this is where she was.

1005
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 3: Going to start?

1006
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like if some of the people.

1007
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 3: Who follow her are going to always agree that she

1008
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: could have said anything and they would have agreed with her.

1009
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: Her platform is nothing. We all have platforms, and.

1010
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 2: If someone is reaching out to her because of her

1011
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 2: vaccine hesitancy or anti VAC statements, that person is literally

1012
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 2: doing that because they already believe that. Like, they're not

1013
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: doing it because they they were on the fence and

1014
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 2: then Nikki said something. They were like, oh, scientist Minage, No,

1015
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: they're doing it literally because they're just like, Okay, well

1016
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: I already didn't believe this shit, So thank you Nikki

1017
00:50:59,200 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: for speaking up.

1018
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 3: It's confirmation bias, Yah, confirmation bias.

1019
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 2: I actually have to use the restroom real quick, y'all. Okay,

1020
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 2: so y'all talking about yourselves. Here's the next article. Chris

1021
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 2: Rock test positive for COVID nineteen. Go BOSSI ain't Karen.

1022
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 5: I did not know that.

1023
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 3: Really, Yeah, I didn't know that either.

1024
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 5: You said it's vaccinated. Yeah, he was vaccinated with Johnson

1025
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: and Johnson. So for me, that's understandable because they said,

1026
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 5: you know, because the thing is with it for the vaccines,

1027
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 5: they're like ninety nine point nine percent, So that means

1028
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: it's like a one to two percent chance that you

1029
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 5: have these breakthroughs.

1030
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 2: And the thing about the breakthroughs.

1031
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 5: The reason why you have the breakthroughs is because of

1032
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 5: the delta variance, because you know this ship like.

1033
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: Condoms, you're protected, but you're only protected to a point,

1034
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,280
Speaker 3: and I think that people keep missing.

1035
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: And then this is what happened in the Nikki conversation

1036
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 4: as well, where she was like, well, Drake said he

1037
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 4: got it forty seven times and he's vaccinated.

1038
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 3: Well, Drake is doing reckless shit.

1039
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: And if no one ever said you wouldn't ever get

1040
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: it if you're vaccinated, they said, the fact that he

1041
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 4: is able to have had it as many times as

1042
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 4: he did means the vaccine works because it could have

1043
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,839
Speaker 4: been that one time he had it and he never

1044
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: recovered from it.

1045
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: And I failed to understand especially and we're going back

1046
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 3: to like people having these emotional emotional arguments, and I mean,

1047
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 3: people are on our side. If you come to me

1048
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 3: if I'm anti vaxxed and I have all.

1049
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: These ridiculous conspiracy theories about it, you coming and clearly

1050
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 4: lying that you know your entire family was vaccinated and

1051
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,479
Speaker 4: then your daughter went to step practice and came back

1052
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: and now everybody in your family is dead. That's not

1053
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 4: true either. I'm sorry, that's hyperbolic as well. Just say

1054
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 4: the facts. Stick to the facts. Yes, you can still

1055
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: get it, but the chances of you dying increases exponent sorry,

1056
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 4: decreases exponents. Like why are we why are we like

1057
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 4: selective about when we attack with facts and when we

1058
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 4: attack with hyperbole and and all these stories like I

1059
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,239
Speaker 4: read these tweets, these tweet threads all the time where

1060
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 4: people have these like and you know this, it's the

1061
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 4: same people who will have a long ass tweet thread

1062
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 4: about literally anything, yes, anything happens in the world, and

1063
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 4: now they got a story about it and it takes.

1064
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: Seventeen tweets for them to tell it. And it's the

1065
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: same exact people. And for me, it's just like, you

1066
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: are also not telling the true man, sir, You are

1067
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 3: also not telling the truth because it's truth, because it's

1068
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: about you, because it's about you, so now you understand

1069
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 3: why an unvaccinated person is making it about them too.

1070
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 4: It's always about ego. It's always about being the lobdest

1071
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 4: room in the voice. It's always about that. And I

1072
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 4: wish Rob is here because he knows how much I hate,

1073
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 4: I loathe. I cannot stand sorry that happened to you,

1074
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 4: Like anybody, as soon as somebody, if I tie, if

1075
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 4: I tweet something and somebody responds, i'm sorry that happened

1076
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 4: to you, I delete the tweet because clearly you know

1077
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 4: I'm not saying it right because I cannot because it's

1078
00:54:08,719 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 4: such a nothing phrase. And so many people you can

1079
00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 4: see when they're tweeting, they want that. They're tweeting for

1080
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 4: that like that, I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm

1081
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 4: s so sorry that happened to you. I'm so sorry

1082
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: that happened to you. Like so, a lot of the

1083
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: people who are on our side are tweeting for that.

1084
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that happened to you. I'm sorry that happy,

1085
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 4: I'm sorry that happens. You're also not being honest about

1086
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 4: what's going on. You can't attack Nicki Minaj for not

1087
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: having facts, and then you so not using scientific facts

1088
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 4: to make your case. Stick to the truth, stick to

1089
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 4: the facts, stick to the science. That's all we all

1090
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 4: need at this point. Like, I'm so tired of hearing.

1091
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 5: No, no, and I do I understand that. And the

1092
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 5: thing is, what's funny about when you when you were saying,

1093
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,719
Speaker 5: people say I'm sorry to happen to you. There might

1094
00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 5: be a small percentage of people that actually might have compassion,

1095
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,719
Speaker 5: and they truly might feel that way, But like you say,

1096
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 5: the phrase has been taken so much out of context

1097
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 5: to you go, Oh, a lot of people they're fishing

1098
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 5: for this response, which is different than people sincerely meaning it.

1099
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 4: And there are some people who use the phrase who

1100
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 4: probably are sincere when they say that it happens. But

1101
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 4: I can always tell from the tweet itself that that

1102
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: person created it in order to get that.

1103
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 2: Chris Rock tweeted, trust me, you don't want this.

1104
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 5: Oh I believe him?

1105
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah he so. I think he's using his platform to

1106
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 2: try to tell people like, even though I'm vaccinated and

1107
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 2: I had a breakthrough infection, the shit still sucks, so

1108
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: you know, and who knows, maybe he got comfortable. I

1109
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,640
Speaker 2: think comedians are in a weird place right now because

1110
00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: depending on where you do your comedy. A lot of

1111
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 2: those places are like you can't come in unless you're

1112
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,399
Speaker 2: vaccinating it, right, and you know, New York City, LA

1113
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 2: and stuff, there's a lot of like vaccine passport type stuff.

1114
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,520
Speaker 2: So then never comes just like feeling of safety where

1115
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 2: you see pictures with comedians and you know, it's a

1116
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: lot of like the audience has no mass they have

1117
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 2: no masks, They're taking pictures with everybody, they're hanging out,

1118
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: and it's like, we're not there yet, you know what

1119
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 2: I mean. So that's the whole Like Dave Chappelle and

1120
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: Joe Rogan posting group selfies with everybody, and you're like, bro,

1121
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 2: we're It's not a coincidence that a few weeks later

1122
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 2: both of them are like I got COVID. It's like, yes,

1123
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 2: we're not at a range of vaccinations or just pure

1124
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 2: you know, instances of the virus that you can be like,

1125
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 2: I'm taking this mask off because I got vaccinated and

1126
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,960
Speaker 2: everything's normal, so uh, but.

1127
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some precautions that people need to say. What's

1128
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 4: interesting to me is that, and I might be wrong,

1129
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: but I seem to notice it, like even from the

1130
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 4: very beginning The most people that I heard getting it

1131
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 4: were comedians because they never stopped, like they were still toring,

1132
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,040
Speaker 4: they were still on the road, they were still doing.

1133
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,240
Speaker 3: Like all these different things.

1134
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 4: Like if I remember correctly, it just feels like it

1135
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 4: was it was mostly comedians as far as like celebrities.

1136
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 3: They were getting it, like not mostly celebrities mostly, but

1137
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: like at a rapid rate. Does that make sense, Like

1138
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 3: that's where I feel like it was.

1139
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 2: It did feel like that, and its doubt that like

1140
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 2: a comedian will be popping up like yeah, I got it,

1141
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 2: you know so, And that was before we had a vaccine.

1142
00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 2: They were kind of on the front lines of trying

1143
00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 2: to find safe ways to do shit without a vaccine.

1144
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: And of course you also had that brand of comedian

1145
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 2: who's literally just like I'm gonna get coronavirus. I'm rooting

1146
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 2: for coronavirus. You know, those coronavirus teams like Jim Brewer

1147
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 2: and and Joe Rugan and them. Speaking of Minaj, though

1148
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: I forgot, there's a couple more stories she had fails

1149
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 2: go out and do They took it upon their own volition,

1150
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 2: of course, but she had fans that went and like

1151
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:15,800
Speaker 2: did a protest Oh, yeah, this article wants me to

1152
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 2: pay for it. I don't think so, but I'll find

1153
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 2: it elsewhere internet. But but yeah, she had little like

1154
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: fans go out and they had like flags and ship.

1155
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 3: Oh.

1156
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 2: I was just like, fam is the music this hot?

1157
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 3: Is it?

1158
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 2: Has it ever been?

1159
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 4: Like? Uh?

1160
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: She lied about the White House inviting her to talk

1161
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 2: to her about the vaccine.

1162
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: And they was like it was a phone call?

1163
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 2: What is this?

1164
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1165
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 2: And my guess is.

1166
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: That phone call to get her educated?

1167
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,360
Speaker 2: Right right? Everyone was taking it too serious or taking

1168
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 2: her too serious. I shouldn't say taking it too seriously,

1169
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: because I think there is obviously some benefit to countering

1170
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: her lies, you know what I'm saying. So I think

1171
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 2: there's been. But but this whole like we're gonna talk

1172
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 2: to you on the phone to see it. No, not her,

1173
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 2: and nothing about her says that she would be willing

1174
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: to talk about it and hear you out. There's there's

1175
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 2: never been a reasonable solution of anything she's been involved in.

1176
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 2: And of course a lot my conspiracy is I think

1177
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: she just did this because her husband just confessed to

1178
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: being guilty for not rechis as a sex offender. And

1179
00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 2: you know this will get that story a little less Sean.

1180
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: But here's the protest.

1181
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 3: She got an stupid me, you know, fancying, you know, fancy.

1182
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: You know Fulcy's live, You're not you're.

1183
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 5: Fancy love you know.

1184
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 2: Now I have to say, this looks to be about

1185
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 2: twelve people. This does not look like a lot of

1186
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: people that just protests.

1187
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 5: They act like the CDC itself, that.

1188
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: There's anybody out there. It could be.

1189
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 2: This is insane and this is a different type of

1190
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 2: anti vaccine crowd because they're all wearing masks. Because this

1191
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 2: this crowd is pro mask anti vaccine, which is a new,

1192
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,840
Speaker 2: a new strain. It's a new variant, Yes it is.

1193
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: It's a new variant of anti vaccine, is real. Yeah,

1194
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 2: this is the monster the barber, the bar the barbie variant.

1195
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: So yeah, So they had like a little little protest thing.

1196
01:00:56,800 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: A reporter who was trying to get A reporter who

1197
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 2: was trying to verify the story was reaching out to

1198
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: Nicki Minaj's family, like texting them and stuff and being

1199
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 2: like are you the cousin? Like who, like, is there

1200
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: any proof that this happened. We're just trying to document

1201
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: this and see where the story came from. And Nicki

1202
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,000
Speaker 2: Minaj decided to dox this person and said they were

1203
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: threatening her family, so and then threatened her, Yeah, and

1204
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 2: then threatened her and had.

1205
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 3: Her days are numbered.

1206
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 4: And then what's hilariousing is that her and her husband

1207
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 4: have been served for harassing.

1208
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 3: Her husband's.

1209
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 4: Harassing and threatening the man the woman her husband raped.

1210
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: So I know that her lawyers are like.

1211
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 4: Because she's making the case for them, for the for

1212
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 4: the for the prosecution fam. But here's the thing that

1213
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 4: I don't understand, and I don't know where I was

1214
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 4: when this happened. I truly, truly do not know when

1215
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 4: this happened. But when did stand culture become this? I

1216
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 4: would say, when did you enjoying somebody's music or yeah,

1217
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: just enjoying their music made you make you this level

1218
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 4: of an apologist for them, because I see it often

1219
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:26,480
Speaker 4: because I bet you tomorrow if Beyonce came out with

1220
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 4: some anti vax stuff, there would be one hundred people

1221
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 4: outside the CDC.

1222
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 3: So when did that happen? I don't understand when that happened.

1223
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 5: It was a slow turn, and I think within the

1224
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 5: past I want to say, seven to five years, and

1225
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 5: maybe longer than that. But social I think these people

1226
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 5: I've always been around, but I think social media has

1227
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 5: allowed them to collectively get together. And so now instead

1228
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 5: of me being the only person that will be out

1229
01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 5: there protests, and now I can get online and get

1230
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 5: it with some other people. Then we get all twelve

1231
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:00,520
Speaker 5: of us out there kissing.

1232
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 2: Now. Yep, I think Karen knocked it out the park.

1233
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 2: That's exactly I was gonna say. And uh, I just

1234
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: find it interesting because, uh, the identity of the stand

1235
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:15,320
Speaker 2: is not really about logic sense or even necessarily loyalty

1236
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: to that that person. Because I remember Beyonce's case, that

1237
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 2: lady that was like the wife of the own co

1238
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 2: owner of the Warriors leaned over her to ask because

1239
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,479
Speaker 2: jay Z was asked trying to talk to her about

1240
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 2: a drink or something. People, and I remember people that

1241
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 2: I know acting crazy and thinking that it was justifying,

1242
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 2: like people harassing that woman and everything and writing long

1243
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 2: ass threads and Facebook post about female white woman aggressiveness

1244
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 2: and all this shit, and Beyonce, through her spokesperson, had

1245
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,120
Speaker 2: to put out like a hey, can y'all chill the

1246
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 2: fuck out? And you know that takes a lot, because Beyonce,

1247
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: don't she normally just act like nothing's happening. Like Beyond

1248
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 2: Beyonce had a whole as elevator video leak and didn't

1249
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:03,680
Speaker 2: say shit about it till she made a song goal

1250
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:08,520
Speaker 2: a year later. So she ain't really prone to exactly,

1251
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 2: She's not really prone to get involved in internet shenanigans.

1252
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,520
Speaker 2: It's one of the things I actually really like about

1253
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: her as a as a as a celebrity is how

1254
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 2: little she shares, Like it's I'm selling you this thing.

1255
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: Here's some pictures from my Instagram. Go buy this thing.

1256
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 2: Me and my family don't. You don't even worry about it.

1257
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:30,440
Speaker 2: That's that's our business. And it's kind of interesting to

1258
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 2: see like quote unquote reasonable people justify treating somebody horribly

1259
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:39,880
Speaker 2: when it was literally just an instant and it was

1260
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 2: and no one involved was offended. So that's why I

1261
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 2: say they're not even beholding to the celebrity like because

1262
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: cause you know what I'm saying to me. I used

1263
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: to think Stan was like like what's happening with Nikki?

1264
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,040
Speaker 2: Where she's like, I'm docting this person and the people go, okay,

1265
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: we'll go harass him. This is some other ship with

1266
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 2: a person like I don't want this, and they're like,

1267
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:01,360
Speaker 2: this is how we love you. It's an abusive type

1268
01:05:01,360 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 2: of very abusive. Eighteen out of twenty gorillas at the

1269
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: Atlanta Zoo contracted COVID. Oh no, yeah, I wonder what

1270
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: happened with the.

1271
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 5: Other vaccine animals, because animals can catch it, Like.

1272
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: How did the other two not get? Oh? Okay, hold on.

1273
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 2: So the reason they tested them is because they have

1274
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 2: been coughing, having running noses, and showed changes in appetite,

1275
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 2: so they got sick.

1276
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 5: Okay.

1277
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 2: So they weren't just like they they weren't just randomly

1278
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: like let's check the gorillas. But yeah, speaking to them,

1279
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 2: they were doing anti vaccine language, like.

1280
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 5: They coming up and telling them, wear your mask, taking

1281
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 5: my mask?

1282
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 2: Oh fuck y'all. It's like, oh wait a minute, wait

1283
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 2: a minute, this gorilla's been watching too much Fox News.

1284
01:05:57,960 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, they said that treatment were like those monoclonal antibodies.

1285
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 2: So we'll see what apples at that.

1286
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,320
Speaker 4: Giving animals I've been met or whatever it's called.

1287
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:11,120
Speaker 2: They're not even giving, you know, they're not.

1288
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 5: They're not. And uh, didn't they say they were working

1289
01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 5: on vaccines for animals too.

1290
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, they haven't and they vaccinated some animals as well.

1291
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 2: But it's just interesting that.

1292
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 3: We can can get it from animals from people.

1293
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, animals, animals can't get it, it is possible. Yeah,

1294
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 2: dogs can get it done.

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Speaker 3: They can give it to people. Mm hmm yeah, can

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Speaker 3: dogs give it to humans?

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Speaker 2: Yes? So don't you know, yeah, don't be up here

1298
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:41,080
Speaker 2: letting other people's dogs lick on y'all and ship all right,

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01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 2: there was a hostess they got attacked for asking donners.

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01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: There was a hostess. They got attacked for asking dinners

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01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 2: for proof of vaccination. And that's in New York where

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01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 2: they are asking people to to to have be vaccinated

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01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 2: in order to go out. They just did the vaccine passport.

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01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,600
Speaker 5: It's a lost. So you came to fire Texas yep,

1305
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 5: oh they're from Texas.

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01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, so these people imported their foolishness. But most importantly,

1307
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 2: these some of these motherfuckers are doing this on purpose,

1308
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: because you have to think about the logicians of this.

1309
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: They knew they were going to New York City. There's

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01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 2: been nothing but news of vaccine mandates and ship the

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01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:25,080
Speaker 2: whole time. They got up there and was like, we're

1312
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 2: going out to eat. They knew that some of these

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 2: establishment people be like, hey, are you vaccinated? So they

1314
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 2: were planning to fight somebody that, Like that's the only

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01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 2: thing that makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 2: Like anyway, poor waitress, I think I.

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Speaker 4: Told you, I told you what what the people in

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:44,120
Speaker 4: Texas were doing? Like I told you they looked like

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01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 4: they were purposely wanting some kind of confrontation to somebody,

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Speaker 4: like they wanted that.

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Speaker 3: M hm.

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Speaker 4: So I don't I don't doubt for a second that

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Speaker 4: they that they showed up wanting to fight.

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01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 2: Right and the way the waitress got punched in the

1326
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: face and her necklace got broken, one patient, one unspecified patient,

1327
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 2: was taking them outside the hospital. So yep, there you go.

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01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 5: That they don't they don't pay you enough because she'd

1329
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 5: been wrong, or she'd have whooped their asses for fucking

1330
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 5: attacking her.

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Speaker 2: We have an update on that Bob in your dude

1332
01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 2: who is an anti bass conservative radio host in the

1333
01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 2: pastor he was in the hospital with complications of from

1334
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: COVID like a week or two ago. Uh, he has

1335
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:34,080
Speaker 2: now died from COVID.

1336
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Speaker 5: That sounds about right. COVID, don't be playing.

1337
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,799
Speaker 2: He fucked around.

1338
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: COVID.

1339
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 2: COVID is like you rang he found out.

1340
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:46,919
Speaker 3: She said, it's wild.

1341
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 5: Because real everybody be like, I don't know about this COVID.

1342
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 5: COVID just show up.

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01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 2: It's wild because they talk all that ship and then

1344
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 2: do we still get the same like pray for me,

1345
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,639
Speaker 2: here's my GoFundMe shit. And it's just like fam who

1346
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:01,040
Speaker 2: who are people given it?

1347
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 3: This?

1348
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 2: Like? Who is wasting these thoughts in these prayers?

1349
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 3: Dog?

1350
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 2: Like there's so many people that need thoughts and prayers.

1351
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,839
Speaker 2: You know, it's thoughts and prayers is at a premium

1352
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 2: right now. I don't know if you've been looking around.

1353
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,120
Speaker 2: It's a lot of thoughts. It's not a lot of time,

1354
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 2: and there's a lot a lot of thoughts and lots

1355
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 2: of prayers. Doesn't need it? Yeah, here damn throwing them away.

1356
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 4: I will say that I don't blame I don't blame

1357
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:28,760
Speaker 4: doctors for saying I'm not treating people who are unvaccinated. Like,

1358
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,360
Speaker 4: I don't blame that people have to people are jumped around.

1359
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 4: It's like throwing around the constitution. It's illegal, blah blah blah.

1360
01:09:35,240 --> 01:09:38,879
Speaker 4: But like people are allowed to protect themselves from harm.

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01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 4: So the unvaccinated are harmful. So a medical doctor or

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01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:50,640
Speaker 4: a medical professional has every right to refuse to treat you.

1363
01:09:50,720 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 3: They act like it's some sort of God given a navy.

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01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 4: In the same way, they're like, it's against hipo violations

1365
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 4: and they have no idea what that means.

1366
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 3: They have no idea that a di doctor can refuse

1367
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 3: your treatment. Like I don't know.

1368
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: Again, maybe I just haven't paying attention, but this, like,

1369
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, where did y'all come from? Where did y'all

1370
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 4: like interpreting the constitution and hippo every way you feel

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 4: like it, And then just kind of throw I've never

1372
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 4: in my life said something with a hippo violation because

1373
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is, really.

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01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, I don't know

1375
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:22,720
Speaker 3: what that is.

1376
01:10:23,040 --> 01:10:28,960
Speaker 4: So whatever newsletter, newsletter, probably radio or podcasts consider a

1377
01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 4: podcast like it just it's just it's just fucking ridiculous

1378
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 4: to me.

1379
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So what I think is interesting about what I

1380
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 2: think is interesting about that shit is you have you

1381
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: have people that clearly are learning this language from social

1382
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 2: media like Reddit, Facebook groups, and that's why they all

1383
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 2: talk like that. They all talk the same because so

1384
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,880
Speaker 2: when they say a hip of violation, someone in some

1385
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 2: groups somewhere told them say it's a hipp of violation,

1386
01:10:57,200 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 2: and then the doctors, of course, there's reasonable to refuse

1387
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 2: service to these folks because they're not even taking the

1388
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:09,720
Speaker 2: bare minimum precautions. And I know somebody on Facebook who

1389
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,920
Speaker 2: was posting some shit this week when she came out

1390
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 2: of the closet because she loves Nicki Minaj apparently, so

1391
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 2: she came out of the vaccine has in the closet

1392
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,040
Speaker 2: and one of her things is like, uh, so, y'all

1393
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 2: tell it, saying that you know it's okay, you got

1394
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: to make people get vaccines and all this stuff. That's

1395
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 2: like a doctor saying they won't treat somebody who got

1396
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 2: diabetes because their diet or something, they won't give them insolent.

1397
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: I was like, no, the vaccine is the insolent in

1398
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: this scenario. So that doesn't even pass a logic test.

1399
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,320
Speaker 2: Number one, but they're number.

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Speaker 5: Two doesn't kill, Like diabetes doesn't.

1401
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,360
Speaker 2: Kill everyone in the school because someone it was a diabetic.

1402
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,879
Speaker 5: You don't breathe on somebody and they catch the beats.

1403
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just such a it's such a ridiculous

1404
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 2: thing for people to be saying. Even on that.

1405
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:06,000
Speaker 4: Note, Even on that note, my my son's school serves

1406
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 4: sunflower and jelly sandwiches in case somebody has a peanutalergy. Right,

1407
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 4: No one has an issue with that, right, No, they

1408
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 4: don't even know if there's somebody who has who has

1409
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:25,200
Speaker 4: a peanut allergy. Just actually thought that a thing called

1410
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:27,519
Speaker 4: a peanut allergy exists out there in the world, that

1411
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 4: somebody might have it. So we're going to take all

1412
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:35,440
Speaker 4: peanuts off the table. Yep, it's not a foreign concept.

1413
01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 2: And everybody in your that school is vaccinated against everything else.

1414
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 2: Just the one thing everybody's like, not this one, the

1415
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 2: one we're currently living through in the pandemic. This is

1416
01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:46,640
Speaker 2: the one we're going to stop.

1417
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 3: Exactly allergy shots.

1418
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 4: You have, you have polio shots.

1419
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:53,639
Speaker 3: People.

1420
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 4: Anti vax has been around for a while. I've never

1421
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 4: been anti vax because I'm just not. But when I

1422
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 4: went to Nigeria and I saw tuberculosis and.

1423
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 3: Polio and measles and all these things that are are

1424
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:14,640
Speaker 3: aren't didn't at that time exist in America because of vaccinations.

1425
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 3: It exists in the world.

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01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 4: There are people who still get that, who'd have who

1427
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 4: hadn't done anything for the vaccination, and y'all refusing it right.

1428
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,759
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate expression of person see.

1429
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 3: Anybody with polio.

1430
01:13:28,160 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 4: It is not It's not like I'm I'm still like

1431
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 4: the first time I saw somebody who had legit.

1432
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 3: Polio, I like I could not get the image out

1433
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,559
Speaker 3: of my mind. That's how like disturbing it was.

1434
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 4: It's not like we don't even fully even know what

1435
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 4: these things are and what they're capable of because we've

1436
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 4: never seen them, right, watching people.

1437
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 2: It's the ultimate expression of American privilege, right, because what

1438
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 2: they're really saying is I'm not going to participate in

1439
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,000
Speaker 2: this solution, but I do expect y'all to resolve it

1440
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,599
Speaker 2: for me. I expect everyone else to do the right

1441
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 2: things until there's a point where I feel where I

1442
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:09,280
Speaker 2: feel like participated. But until then, I'm going to continue

1443
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: to do things as if this isn't happening. Because when

1444
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 2: you look at the anger that people have where unvaccinated

1445
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 2: people have, it's a lot of like service me anger.

1446
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 2: It's a lot of like I want my many petty,

1447
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 2: I want to go out and eat, I want to

1448
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 2: go to the football game. It's not just like I

1449
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 2: want to be of service to listen, I hate to

1450
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 2: have a job where I need to help people. No,

1451
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 2: it's all this, it's all complete selfishness, and they're expecting

1452
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,240
Speaker 2: everyone else to finish the group project for him, and

1453
01:14:38,280 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 2: then they'll come in at the end and be like

1454
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,960
Speaker 2: we got a a oh yeah. And that is what

1455
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 2: has happened with the anti vaxx movement over the last

1456
01:14:46,280 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 2: like thirty or forty years, which is exactly people going

1457
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,480
Speaker 2: in America. I don't know nobody that died of measles,

1458
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 2: so I'm not getting no measles vaccine.

1459
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:56,280
Speaker 3: Come on.

1460
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:59,720
Speaker 2: Essentially, it worked, so why do it anymore? It's the

1461
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 2: vote right, Sack arguments, it's working, why do we need it?

1462
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 2: It's like, because we're gonna go right back to the

1463
01:15:04,680 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 2: dark ages. The thing I was gonna say the next

1464
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 2: the last story for coronavirus, and we'll move out of

1465
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:15,639
Speaker 2: this so we can talk about some gossip. The states

1466
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 2: that cut benefits because people weren't getting they weren't taking jobs,

1467
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 2: these under low paying jobs, and they said it's Joe

1468
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,520
Speaker 2: Biden's fault and the government's fault for giving people unemployment.

1469
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 2: With those those states cut unemployment, right, they've seen no

1470
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:32,560
Speaker 2: boost in hiring.

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Speaker 5: Right, because people are like pay us and me, and

1472
01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 5: right they talked about this. When you have people that

1473
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 5: was barely making it anyway, they lost their job, got

1474
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 5: a little bit of unemployment. Guess what they was like,

1475
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 5: I moved back home my mom. I'm good. I look

1476
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,080
Speaker 5: we can roommate up. You know, people have found these alternatives.

1477
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 5: They was like, why would I go back to a

1478
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 5: job that underpaid me? And a lot of times, the

1479
01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 5: biggest thing about these jobs they don't tell people is

1480
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 5: not a consistent schedule. Your own three days off, four days.

1481
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 5: They put your time all over the place. You don't

1482
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 5: have a set schedule. So let's say you want to

1483
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:08,120
Speaker 5: try to go to school, Let's say you want to

1484
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:10,559
Speaker 5: try to look for another job, you could not do it.

1485
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,400
Speaker 5: And they purposely and strategically do this shit to keep

1486
01:16:13,400 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 5: you in these jobs so that you don't have the

1487
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 5: time or the convenience to look anywhere else. And that's

1488
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 5: the part that I want to tell you about. They don't

1489
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 5: want to put you on that for thirty two to

1490
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:23,519
Speaker 5: forty hours week because they don't want to pay for

1491
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 5: your health care. They want to pay your seven forty

1492
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 5: five an hour. But yet they want you to be

1493
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 5: the bouncer for the coronavirus. They and they want you

1494
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,320
Speaker 5: to be out there and smile and tell the customer

1495
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:34,120
Speaker 5: that they ran all the time. And people are like, no,

1496
01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 5: pay me, pay me.

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01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then also a lot of these jobs

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01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 2: are front facing jobs. So a lot of these jobs

1499
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: are the ones where you're going to probably come in

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01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: contact with somebody with coronavirus or the kind of people

1501
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 2: that lead a house and be like, I ain't wearing

1502
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 2: no mask and shit.

1503
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 5: And there's not a lot of people that want to

1504
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 5: do those jobs.

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01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 2: Man, not for less than fifteen dollars, right, So, yeah,

1506
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: that shit didn't work that they've been tracking it since May.

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01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 2: And yeah, them cutting that unemployment shit didn't change anything.

1508
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: People still not getting jobs.

1509
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:11,240
Speaker 5: And I wonder if they have done the study about

1510
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 5: how them cutting the benefits rocked the economy, because you

1511
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 5: know what that unemployment meant. That mean them people was

1512
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,600
Speaker 5: going out and spending money. What's the difference between the

1513
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:21,600
Speaker 5: money they was spending and now they don't have that

1514
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:24,320
Speaker 5: money to spend. How has this affected the local community

1515
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 5: around them because that money drive up that shit they

1516
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 5: ain't talking about either.

1517
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 2: True, let's get into some mess, BOSSI tell everybody what's

1518
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 2: going on with Karen Silvil? Who Karen Silvil? What's going

1519
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 2: on with that? What's going on with Karen Silvil? Okay, Oh,

1520
01:17:42,200 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 2: the people need to know. I don't have a clubhouse

1521
01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: on my phone anymore, so I figured you could be

1522
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 2: the Karen Civil Courts in that club rooms.

1523
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 4: I was in that clubhouse room for fifteen minutes. Maybe

1524
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,280
Speaker 4: I have no idea what they were talking about. And

1525
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 4: I only went in there because people were like vague

1526
01:18:02,600 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 4: tweeting it. They're like, you know, you know how people are.

1527
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:10,120
Speaker 3: Like when they're tweeting, but they're like responding, so they're

1528
01:18:10,160 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 3: not really like saying what's going on? So I was like, ooh,

1529
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:16,800
Speaker 3: I was like, I have no idea what's going on?

1530
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 5: Okay, it's more like I don't know.

1531
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 4: I know she scammed people, or she didn't scam people

1532
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: know she did scam people, but she's always that's what

1533
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 4: I've always known.

1534
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 3: I didn't even know what she did. Apparently she's in PR.

1535
01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,679
Speaker 4: I didn't know that because every time her name comes

1536
01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:34,759
Speaker 4: up on social media, she's it's because she did something

1537
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 4: to someone or or she was around when mac Miller died,

1538
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,080
Speaker 4: and around when when when Nipsey died or something like.

1539
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 2: I don't well. I call her caring civil losses because

1540
01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: apparently there's a lot of people that are trying to

1541
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,200
Speaker 2: take her to court. She uh got into it with

1542
01:18:57,360 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 2: a couple of people. First, comedian and singer Jesse Will

1543
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 2: took the Instagram where she shared court documents from her

1544
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 2: lawsuit against Karen Silvill, who's a famed hip hop marketing consultant,

1545
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 2: for attempting to book her. That's what to say for

1546
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:17,559
Speaker 2: attempting to book her for a fake event by using

1547
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: a non existent company name. Earlier this year, Wow, the

1548
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,040
Speaker 2: Love and Hip Hop reality star accused Silvil of using

1549
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 2: bogus Jesse Woo's on Love and Hip Hop Now huh

1550
01:19:27,720 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 2: Okay accused Silvil of using the bogus company as a

1551
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,640
Speaker 2: way to obtain personal information to use against her in

1552
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 2: the extortion case for some of three million dollars. Wu

1553
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 2: also alleged the fictitious appearance was created by civil to

1554
01:19:41,040 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 2: embarrass and intimidate her, adding that the Superior Court of

1555
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 2: California sided with her motion to toss Sivil's case. Wow,

1556
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 2: this shit gets got pretty deep. She put on her

1557
01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 2: She put a she put like a couple of screenshots

1558
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 2: of the lawsuit, which honestly I don't know. I'm not

1559
01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 2: reading all that shit. But then she put her long

1560
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 2: Instagram description earlier this year at Karen Sivil, so she atner,

1561
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: I want to just ain't no subtweet. This is like

1562
01:20:13,120 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 2: I want you to see this at Karen Silvil fake

1563
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: booked me using a non existent company in order to

1564
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 2: obtain personal information, served me with an extortion case for

1565
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,000
Speaker 2: the summer three million dollars at the fake booking, and

1566
01:20:25,120 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 2: had it recorded in order to pass the video around

1567
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 2: the industry with the golda embarrassing intimidate me. Today ahead

1568
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,160
Speaker 2: of our hearing, the Superior Court of California sided with me.

1569
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,920
Speaker 2: I want to thank my attorneys Amanda and Billy no

1570
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 2: last names, stand by the course decision, and I look

1571
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 2: forward to my check being cut by miss uncivil. Her

1572
01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:50,759
Speaker 2: Live to ah Her Live today where she pressed about

1573
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:54,680
Speaker 2: Haitian women empowerment was no coincidence. She's a loser in

1574
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 2: real life and in court she lost. She's scrambling run

1575
01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 2: me my coins at Karen Sivil. Oftentimes people go silent

1576
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,240
Speaker 2: in this industry because they cannot afford to defend that

1577
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:08,760
Speaker 2: factual truth. Keep this in mind before you attack the underdogs.

1578
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: She thought I wouldn't defend myself. I am a master's

1579
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 2: degree holding from the FIU Instagram. I guess Florida International.

1580
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,519
Speaker 2: My undergrads and political science and journalism, my master's and

1581
01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 2: Strategic Communications. I had every intention of going to law school,

1582
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:29,599
Speaker 2: but baby, the way that lsat that el sat wasn't

1583
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 2: my ministry. Even if I could afford my lawyers, I

1584
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,960
Speaker 2: would have stayed. I couldn't afford my lawyers. I would

1585
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:39,839
Speaker 2: have stayed up day and night defending myself by drafting

1586
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: my emotions. Don't ever play yourself at Karen sivil. The

1587
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,200
Speaker 2: devil works hard, but Jessica just works harder. In Jesus'

1588
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,959
Speaker 2: name of strong fist post emoji and a heart emoji

1589
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 2: hashtag running my coins hashtag all karens Ain't white. Oh,

1590
01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 2: and special shout out, A special shout out to my

1591
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 2: honorary lawyer, the ak AG for always steering me legally.

1592
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:08,879
Speaker 2: So and I don't know who some dude named Andrew

1593
01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 2: so yeah, man, that's one of them. And then the

1594
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: other person is Joiner Lucas, who y'all may know from

1595
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:24,200
Speaker 2: his his video where it was like kind of Quenton

1596
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: being racist with Black Lives Matter.

1597
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I was like, I thought you did to

1598
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 4: say the Will Smith song.

1599
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:33,479
Speaker 3: I didn't know that was him too.

1600
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that video. I've never I never write

1601
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 2: about ship on my medium blind me. I'm going who Karen,

1602
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,240
Speaker 2: we covered it on the show. I never. All right, well,

1603
01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 2: then let's just move on to the finish, Okay, all right, cool.

1604
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 2: I was hoping you say that, But yeah, Joynan Lucas

1605
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: did a video about racism called I'm not something like

1606
01:22:57,400 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: I'm not racist or something, and it was like, from

1607
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: the perspective of these of like white white dude saying

1608
01:23:06,280 --> 01:23:08,719
Speaker 2: it was just bad, it was just equating a bunch

1609
01:23:08,720 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 2: of bad shit and that's and like that was enough

1610
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:13,040
Speaker 2: for me to be like, I'll never check for this guy.

1611
01:23:14,520 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 2: Like it wasn't even on somebody active dislike or hate, like, oh,

1612
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 2: whenever I see his name, I'm gonna say. It was

1613
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 2: just like me and this guy not even closer on

1614
01:23:24,240 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 2: the same page. So good luck with whatever you're doing

1615
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:31,520
Speaker 2: over there, buddy. I hope it works out. But apparently

1616
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: he got caught up in some shit, so he said,

1617
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 2: what was it? Joiner said, He hired the always Civil

1618
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 2: founder for marketing and branding consultation twenty fourteen when he

1619
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 2: began developing his rap career. In a series of tweets,

1620
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: Joiner explained that he paid Civil sixty thousand dollars for

1621
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:58,880
Speaker 2: her services, but never received an ounce of what was promised.

1622
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 2: I was it's desperate for help, and you knew that,

1623
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,720
Speaker 2: and you was paid. After you was paid, you went

1624
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 2: ghosts and didn't expect me to pop here. I am,

1625
01:24:07,920 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 2: he wrote in with an attachment to a twenty fifteen memo.

1626
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 2: After you got the money paid up front, you stopped

1627
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 2: answering my calls, and every time I hit you, you

1628
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 2: answered the phone with an attitude like I was messing

1629
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,640
Speaker 2: up your day. I sent you held the message is

1630
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 2: pleading with you to do your job. Because my back

1631
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 2: was against the wall. You took advantage, he said. The loss,

1632
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: he said the theft cause of financial strain, and that

1633
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,560
Speaker 2: he just welcomed his first child at the time of

1634
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:38,320
Speaker 2: the incident, shaking my head. I was broken down to

1635
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:41,280
Speaker 2: my last leg. Bro That sixty k was literally my

1636
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:43,719
Speaker 2: last effort to help me get on, and you stole

1637
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: that from me. When my son was born, the media

1638
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 2: protects you, but wrong is wrong. All this time I

1639
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,600
Speaker 2: had like five K followers. Oh, at this time I

1640
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: had five K followers. I had no idea how this

1641
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,559
Speaker 2: industry shit works, and I ain't wait. I ain't want

1642
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 2: you to drag my name through the mud. So I

1643
01:24:59,320 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: had of fear. I still quiet until at mister Cameron

1644
01:25:03,720 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: killer Cam got involved. I guess spoke up a few

1645
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: years ago on Twitter, and then I did, so, yeah,

1646
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:14,200
Speaker 2: she's she's in the frying pan now. She did release

1647
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:20,520
Speaker 2: a statement and it said his management called me directify

1648
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 2: the situation. At the Joiner made his first tweets claims,

1649
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: in which I responded, we can happily move forward after

1650
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 2: public apology was made, since he used that same platform

1651
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,160
Speaker 2: to live about the funds being taken from him, I

1652
01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 2: recorded the call just for future circumstances like this. Unfortunately,

1653
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 2: six years later, he's now utilizing a separate disagreement moment

1654
01:25:39,479 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 2: to amplify and create a social momentum around himself. He

1655
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:45,519
Speaker 2: and I both had separate conversations with Charlemagne this morning

1656
01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 2: where he passed up his phone number so we can

1657
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: have a discussion directly, but instead he took the social

1658
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 2: nothing was stolen or taken from joining Lucas. Unfortunately, certain

1659
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,800
Speaker 2: artists are under the impression that they have twenty four

1660
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,959
Speaker 2: to seven access to you. That's not feasible or possible.

1661
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 2: But it sounded like he had zero access. But okay,

1662
01:26:04,600 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: she's like, he wont twenty four to seven access. He

1663
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,439
Speaker 2: was like, she never answered no calls.

1664
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,679
Speaker 5: I had no access.

1665
01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: All the work done on his behalf were for philed, subcontracted.

1666
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: Invoices were made that said the management Sean McDonald of

1667
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 2: Dead Silent CEO this which my team also kept records for.

1668
01:26:20,840 --> 01:26:24,840
Speaker 2: So that that sounds like why she's oh and then damn.

1669
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:30,640
Speaker 2: She also had supposedly had the blogger Jason Lee. She

1670
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:37,439
Speaker 2: supposedly had his Yeah, she had his Instagram hacked, and.

1671
01:26:37,479 --> 01:26:39,840
Speaker 4: Then he said he lost three hundred thousand dollars in

1672
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 4: revenue while I was trying to fix it. How But

1673
01:26:43,479 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 4: then what I did hear in that clubhouse was that

1674
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 4: because she was in there that.

1675
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,759
Speaker 3: She I don't know.

1676
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 4: She said that she paid somebody to hack his site,

1677
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 4: but that person didn't go through with it.

1678
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,760
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so it's like I hired a hit but

1679
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 2: the hitman didn't actually take go kill you. So I'm

1680
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 2: not really a bad person. You know, if they would

1681
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,960
Speaker 2: have killed you then't obviously. Yeah, here's a clip I

1682
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:15,720
Speaker 2: talked to Scott Zoop. Scott by the way, remember when

1683
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 2: Clubhouse started and the whole thing was like it's private

1684
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:22,599
Speaker 2: conversations that well not And I was like, won't people

1685
01:27:22,680 --> 01:27:27,759
Speaker 2: just screen recorded? And it was like, uh, we'll figure

1686
01:27:27,800 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: that out. I'm like, no, you won't.

1687
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: As said you were solid.

1688
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,160
Speaker 4: He was like, yo, Karen solid, that's a good Oh.

1689
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,040
Speaker 2: This is joint of Lucas. I don't care about his story.

1690
01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 3: Uh your faith.

1691
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 4: Can I just say that I'm so glad that I

1692
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:44,639
Speaker 4: don't have the type of name that if I ever

1693
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 4: fucked up publicly, they could do a pun for the

1694
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: headline like Karen uncivil uncivilized, Like, I'm just so glad.

1695
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:57,000
Speaker 5: Oh, I would get out of a joke. I'll get

1696
01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,720
Speaker 5: out of Joe Karen Karen myro like too road, Yeah,

1697
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 5: I would get it. I would get all all that

1698
01:28:02,520 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 5: they would be joking.

1699
01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 2: Karen Silvil. Yeah, Karen Silvil does leaders lend herself. But

1700
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:10,879
Speaker 2: she also used it the name to all her businesses

1701
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,240
Speaker 2: and stuff too, so like it was good on the

1702
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 2: way up, but then on the way down it's gonna

1703
01:28:15,160 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 2: be kind of bad. But then also the other thing too,

1704
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,040
Speaker 2: is like if that's even her name, right, like you

1705
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 2: know Hollywood name, so like you know, if you blow

1706
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: up enough, you know, maybe you will change your name

1707
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:32,879
Speaker 2: to something more snazgy, and then it'll be like, you know, uh, bossy,

1708
01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 2: I don't know bossy heart love, and then people will

1709
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 2: be using that, they will be using that shit again.

1710
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 2: She's like, oh, she didn't have no heart or love

1711
01:28:44,840 --> 01:28:50,040
Speaker 2: for me, took my money, hearts right, that can happen,

1712
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: all right, here's the club I need to write.

1713
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 9: And then what you did as a result of me

1714
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 9: not taking a story down. You hired that kid to

1715
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 9: hack Hollywood unlock in the twenty thousand. You sent him

1716
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 9: all the receipts. You said it was you and Punch

1717
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:05,080
Speaker 9: from TDE that were gonna help him become a rapper.

1718
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,920
Speaker 9: This kid don't know nobody in the industry, He don't

1719
01:29:07,960 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 9: know nothing. All you know is he poor and you

1720
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 9: want to get out the hood. And you promised you

1721
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 9: was gonna help him. If you took me down, you

1722
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 9: totally take down all my personal shit too. The only

1723
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 9: thing is you didn't pay the back end, so he

1724
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:17,679
Speaker 9: got at me and he gave me that information.

1725
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,760
Speaker 3: You know, I called you, do you guys hear me? Cool?

1726
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:25,960
Speaker 3: And te that was somebody.

1727
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 10: Yeah, this kid is And to a point of me, Jason,

1728
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,240
Speaker 10: you you playing this game? Yeah, I hit this nigga.

1729
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,439
Speaker 10: Nobody promised him twenty thousand dollars, nobody promised him a

1730
01:29:36,479 --> 01:29:39,840
Speaker 10: rap career, nothing like that. To double back and tell

1731
01:29:39,880 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 10: you some stuff.

1732
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:47,720
Speaker 2: You called Jason, hmmm, yeah, I don't know. I don't know.

1733
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 2: That sounds weird. So my conspiracy theory is that this

1734
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: is all just promotion for like love and hip hop,

1735
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,280
Speaker 2: like this is just this is just all like trying

1736
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,200
Speaker 2: to get us to come back to clubhouse, because this

1737
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 2: shit don't make no sense. It just randomly popped up

1738
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,719
Speaker 2: on a Saturday. But she's almost have been dirty for years.

1739
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 2: And then everyone that had grievances aired them all out

1740
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,760
Speaker 2: at the same time, and then people on Twitter is

1741
01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: live tweeting for over twenty four hours. At this point,

1742
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 2: you're seeing people. I'm like, did you sleep, Yeah, did

1743
01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: you go to bed last night?

1744
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 4: Outside now, So there's nothing this is not interesting enough,

1745
01:30:25,160 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: like during pandemic or during the quarantine or what I've lockdown.

1746
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 3: Anything was interesting.

1747
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:33,280
Speaker 4: We were in the house riveted by Tiger King and

1748
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:37,200
Speaker 4: like anything that was remotely interesting we were involved in,

1749
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:40,759
Speaker 4: Like we can go outside now, why is this happening?

1750
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:41,479
Speaker 3: I think you're right.

1751
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,720
Speaker 2: It feel like a love and hip hop pride. It's

1752
01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:47,320
Speaker 2: too it's too straightforward, because who's a lawyer but also

1753
01:30:47,439 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 2: admits to some shit like that?

1754
01:30:49,640 --> 01:30:50,720
Speaker 5: That don't make sense?

1755
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:55,160
Speaker 3: Everyone involved? Everyone involved is like an entertainment business.

1756
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, like scamming some regular people, right, and then no

1757
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,759
Speaker 4: one regular was saying that they something happens.

1758
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:04,679
Speaker 2: Right If somebody like I gave you sixty thousand dollars,

1759
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, I mean, why are you admitting to that?

1760
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,200
Speaker 2: That's is that how you got on? So you aren't

1761
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 2: You aren't really talented and earned your way up? You

1762
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,519
Speaker 2: you was paying cavern symbol. How did you end up

1763
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 2: getting on and she stole the money?

1764
01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:17,160
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1765
01:31:17,200 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 2: This doesn't feel I just feel like Steve Stevie. Yah.

1766
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 3: I feel like I used to.

1767
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 4: But I back in the day when I used to

1768
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 4: watch like American Idol and Top Model, there's always somebody.

1769
01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 3: Who's like I spent my last two hundred dollars to

1770
01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:38,519
Speaker 3: come here. I really mean this opportunity, and I'm so

1771
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 3: I was like, you're stupid, like you had you had

1772
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:43,920
Speaker 3: sixty thousand dollars, which is not which is a lot

1773
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 3: of money, right, But if it's the only money you have,

1774
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 3: it's not a lot of money, right.

1775
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 4: And you just had a baby and you gave that

1776
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 4: off to this rand person who didn't even take your calls. Like,

1777
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:58,519
Speaker 4: I can only feel so far from so sorry for you.

1778
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:00,920
Speaker 4: I feel bad for you because no one should be

1779
01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:04,160
Speaker 4: taking advantage up, but you're also really stupid, Like how

1780
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 4: important is it to be put on that you would

1781
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:06,639
Speaker 4: go through.

1782
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:06,840
Speaker 3: All of this.

1783
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 2: That was my kid's college fund and you took it.

1784
01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: And of course I was using itselfishly to try to

1785
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,320
Speaker 2: get on in the music industry, but still you stole

1786
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:17,920
Speaker 2: money from my child.

1787
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I can understand if it was like a pyramid scheme,

1788
01:32:23,240 --> 01:32:25,479
Speaker 3: because you think you're gonna get some money out, Like

1789
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 3: this is not even you thinking I'm gonna put the

1790
01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:30,360
Speaker 3: sixty thousand in and get money. It's like I'm gonna

1791
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:31,880
Speaker 3: put sixty thousand.

1792
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:35,719
Speaker 4: In and get a billboard? What was she supposed to know? Okay,

1793
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 4: I'm not defending her. I don't know or care like her,

1794
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:40,720
Speaker 4: but I hate stories like that. Don't tell me you

1795
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:42,840
Speaker 4: spent your last sixty K and you had a baby.

1796
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:43,600
Speaker 4: I don't feel sorry for you.

1797
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: I think you're dumb.

1798
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 2: TikTok. TikTok debuts mental health help as Instagram faces criticism

1799
01:32:51,479 --> 01:32:55,920
Speaker 2: for its effects on teams. TikTok is unvela new mental

1800
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,320
Speaker 2: health resources on this platform to address the well being

1801
01:32:58,360 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 2: of it's nearly sixty five point nine million monthly active users.

1802
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,240
Speaker 2: This new initiative is the latest in TikTok's efforts to

1803
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:08,479
Speaker 2: offer help to users who may be struggling. These tools

1804
01:33:08,479 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 2: include in app guides to address body image topics, signs

1805
01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:15,000
Speaker 2: of struggling, and more. TikTok is also altering search results

1806
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,320
Speaker 2: for self harm terms such as suicide instead of seeing

1807
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 2: harmful clips or users promoting suicide or even committing to act.

1808
01:33:21,680 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 2: TikTokers will we met with support and treatment resources. We

1809
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 2: care deeply about our community and we always look for

1810
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,639
Speaker 2: new ways in which we can nurture their well being.

1811
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:35,080
Speaker 2: TikTok's at in a statement, and this comes after Facebook

1812
01:33:35,160 --> 01:33:37,680
Speaker 2: has been exposed by The Wall Street Journal for their

1813
01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 2: failure to address is to address Instagram's negative impact on teenagers'

1814
01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:45,640
Speaker 2: mental health, despite the tech giants' own studies that confirm

1815
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 2: that the issue we make body image issues worse for

1816
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 2: one in three teen girls, and internal Facebook presentation admitted, Facebook,

1817
01:33:55,000 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 2: which owns Instagram, may largely attribute this conclusion to the

1818
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,479
Speaker 2: rise of social media influencer in particularly the Instagram model,

1819
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 2: which often promotes undertainable beauty standards and body types. So, yeah,

1820
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:09,240
Speaker 2: what do you think about TikTok trying to help with

1821
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 2: mental health? I mean, I think the idea of I mean,

1822
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:15,599
Speaker 2: it does sound weird that you will be able to

1823
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 2: type in suicide and see people come into like, you know,

1824
01:34:18,479 --> 01:34:21,960
Speaker 2: dying by suicide. That does seem like a no brainer.

1825
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,640
Speaker 2: That should not be a thing that you allowed to

1826
01:34:23,680 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 2: happen on your app. If you can control that. Oh yeah,

1827
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 2: but you know, and I always feel a little conflicted

1828
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,799
Speaker 2: because it's like it is an app, and the app's

1829
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:33,720
Speaker 2: job is really just to keep you on there.

1830
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I okay, I feel great, fantastic one. I'm

1831
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: glad that you are thinking about that, and I'm glad

1832
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:51,080
Speaker 3: that that's something. It feels a little reactionary because Facebook

1833
01:34:51,120 --> 01:34:58,040
Speaker 3: isn't so, but that's that. But I feel like if

1834
01:34:58,040 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 3: you are at a point in your life where where.

1835
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 4: TikTok is the only thing keeping you together or holding

1836
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 4: you together, and I feel about any social media outlet

1837
01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:14,519
Speaker 4: anything like that, I don't think that you're a healthy

1838
01:35:14,560 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 4: person to start with, so you.

1839
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:16,960
Speaker 3: Shouldn't be on there.

1840
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,760
Speaker 4: So if you are on there and that helps, then

1841
01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:24,160
Speaker 4: I don't think it was that serious. I don't know

1842
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 4: if that's yeah, I'm gonna I'll explain that, but it

1843
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 4: makes sense, right, And then if it is.

1844
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 3: That serious that you're on there, this isn't gonna stop you.

1845
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 4: So so it's like you're targeting the people who are.

1846
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:43,680
Speaker 3: And I mean this not in a mental health.

1847
01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 4: Like blanket statement, but in a specific social media narcissism way.

1848
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 4: If you are the type of person who channels their

1849
01:35:53,640 --> 01:36:00,360
Speaker 4: narcissism through social media, then to me, the mental health

1850
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,519
Speaker 4: issue that this is addressing is not the one you

1851
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 4: actually have.

1852
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:08,080
Speaker 3: Right, does that you see what I'm saying? So I

1853
01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:09,920
Speaker 3: don't know.

1854
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like when people say, like send

1855
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 2: me pictures of cats because I'm feeling depressed or whatever.

1856
01:36:15,400 --> 01:36:17,800
Speaker 5: You're like, oh god, yeah, You're like that.

1857
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:21,479
Speaker 2: I mean that maybe that may help somebody. I'm not

1858
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:26,000
Speaker 2: saying it's impossible, but the idea of that being the

1859
01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,680
Speaker 2: only thing that's stopping you is means there was a

1860
01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: lot that had to like not happen before you got

1861
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:36,000
Speaker 2: to that point that the last bastion was pictures of cats,

1862
01:36:36,280 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And if it's and then

1863
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:43,080
Speaker 2: it also of course, it also lends itself to a

1864
01:36:43,120 --> 01:36:46,240
Speaker 2: certain type of narcissistic personality disorder where people are like,

1865
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:49,760
Speaker 2: I want to see what my influence and reaches and

1866
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 2: this is a great way to see that in real time,

1867
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: how many people I have in my thrall at all times,

1868
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 2: and so it could so And you know, I think

1869
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,400
Speaker 2: social media feeds that because if you look at the

1870
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,400
Speaker 2: tools that make people good at social media, they're all

1871
01:37:03,439 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 2: the same warning signs of dealing with a malignant narcissists,

1872
01:37:07,600 --> 01:37:10,639
Speaker 2: which isn't good, you know. So, uh yeah I do.

1873
01:37:10,840 --> 01:37:12,680
Speaker 2: But every time I see something like this on a

1874
01:37:12,720 --> 01:37:16,040
Speaker 2: social media app, I've part of me just wonders, like,

1875
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 2: what's the catch to it? Because these aren't altruistic endeavors.

1876
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,000
Speaker 2: It's you know, are they trying to with a lawsuit?

1877
01:37:23,120 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Are they they see the bad press. Facebook is getting

1878
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:27,759
Speaker 2: in and go we want the good press, Like what

1879
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:31,559
Speaker 2: what was the impetus? Still released us right now? And

1880
01:37:31,640 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 2: I hope it does help, to be honest, you know,

1881
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 2: I'd much rather you do something than nothing. But you

1882
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 2: know this, I think a lot of times on social media,

1883
01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 2: this is it's the it's the something that's the closest

1884
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 2: to nothing you can get.

1885
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 3: Yeah and yeah.

1886
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:50,519
Speaker 5: And the thing is, like y'all said, the sites are

1887
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 5: designed to keep you on there. And going back to

1888
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:56,000
Speaker 5: what BOSSI was saying, for a lot of people, the

1889
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,240
Speaker 5: help they need is actually off the site like that,

1890
01:37:58,439 --> 01:38:01,000
Speaker 5: Like like the help they need is she's somewhere else.

1891
01:38:01,439 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 5: So os are are they going to actually lead you

1892
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,719
Speaker 5: to get to somebody to get you off the site,

1893
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 5: to get you to actually offline help that you actually need,

1894
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:14,760
Speaker 5: or is it all gonna cycle you back? So if

1895
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:16,800
Speaker 5: I go in here, we are we gonna get the

1896
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:21,600
Speaker 5: three second clip of somebody that's a therapist talking in

1897
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 5: this situation may or may not apply to me because

1898
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 5: they don't know my files, they hadn't looked at my

1899
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,000
Speaker 5: case or anything like that, versus you going here's a number,

1900
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 5: call this number. Contact these persons. Here are the sites

1901
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,080
Speaker 5: that shit. Take you off the site, and that's the

1902
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 5: last thing they want you to do is to leave

1903
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 5: the site.

1904
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 4: Yes, And it's like it's almost like I just don't

1905
01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 4: do it here type of thing, which I don't.

1906
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 3: And I think that here's the thing with TikTok. I

1907
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,479
Speaker 3: enjoy TikTok. I mean, TikTok is a lot of fun.

1908
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:53,680
Speaker 3: It's funny. You know.

1909
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 4: I've curated it so that I see the stuff that

1910
01:38:56,160 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 4: I want to see. I don't see any mental health

1911
01:38:58,520 --> 01:39:01,920
Speaker 4: stuff because I don't want that on my on my page.

1912
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,320
Speaker 4: I don't like anybody who gets on there and just

1913
01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:07,799
Speaker 4: you know, just tells all these long stories about terrible

1914
01:39:07,800 --> 01:39:10,720
Speaker 4: things that have happened to them or or you know.

1915
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 3: I know that.

1916
01:39:12,720 --> 01:39:16,680
Speaker 4: And as somebody who lives with mental health issue, I

1917
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:20,320
Speaker 4: always always go back to your mental health is your responsibility,

1918
01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 4: meaning that you're the only person who has the power

1919
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:28,479
Speaker 4: to do something about how you feel about you and

1920
01:39:28,640 --> 01:39:31,440
Speaker 4: and and get the help that you need for yourself.

1921
01:39:32,120 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 4: And I think that over the years, I've noticed that

1922
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:39,800
Speaker 4: people who are outward about it, there's no real incentive

1923
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 4: to do the work because the validation is external and

1924
01:39:44,600 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 4: I don't agree with that.

1925
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:47,920
Speaker 3: I don't agree with that, But just going back.

1926
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 4: To to TikTok, TikTok has this thing where if you're

1927
01:39:51,640 --> 01:39:53,680
Speaker 4: like I said it so that if I'm on for

1928
01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:56,160
Speaker 4: forty five minutes, it'll pop up and be like you've

1929
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Speaker 4: been on, you know, in order to continue pin code

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Speaker 4: or whatever. Every single time, I just put my pin

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Speaker 4: code and keep going.

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Like, it does nothing

1933
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Speaker 3: to deter me.

1934
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Speaker 4: It doesn't say now we're gonna deny you access for

1935
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Speaker 4: fifteen minutes or now you know whatever. It doesn't do anything.

1936
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Speaker 4: It just pops up, I put the pin keep going

1937
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Speaker 4: if I feel like it. If I'm like, oh yeah,

1938
01:40:20,640 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 4: I've been on here too long, and I make the

1939
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:24,880
Speaker 4: decision to put it away or say the next time

1940
01:40:24,920 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 4: this pops up, I'm gonna put it away.

1941
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Speaker 3: All that, it's still up to me.

1942
01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:31,879
Speaker 4: I'm still the one who has to make the decision

1943
01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 4: to keep going or to ignore it. Right, So it

1944
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:41,639
Speaker 4: just feels very empty. And I think that, and I've

1945
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 4: said this so often, like the more over the years,

1946
01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:52,640
Speaker 4: the happier I am that people are more aware of

1947
01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 4: having these conversations and talking about mental health.

1948
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Speaker 3: And taking it more seriously.

1949
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 4: The less I am to believe that that was a

1950
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:07,320
Speaker 4: good thing, because now it becomes about only the language

1951
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Speaker 4: and only the facade of doing the thing, and no

1952
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 4: real work into the rest of it. Like I've seen

1953
01:41:16,120 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 4: tiktoks and tweets and all these things where people are

1954
01:41:19,320 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 4: only listing and talking about all the things that are happening,

1955
01:41:22,920 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 4: but when things get better, they don't come back and

1956
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 4: talk about what happens there, Like there's no there's no

1957
01:41:28,720 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 4: counter to that, And I feel like, to me, the

1958
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Speaker 4: better counter would be as soon as one of those

1959
01:41:34,120 --> 01:41:37,360
Speaker 4: videos comes up and the algorithm right behind it is

1960
01:41:37,400 --> 01:41:43,080
Speaker 4: something that's far more not toxic positivity, because I think

1961
01:41:43,080 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 4: people always get off, you know, weird about that, but

1962
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Speaker 4: just something that says, this is the other thing that

1963
01:41:49,120 --> 01:41:50,640
Speaker 4: pops up, This is the alternative.

1964
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Speaker 3: This is what it looks like when you're healthy.

1965
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:56,280
Speaker 4: This is what it looks like from somebody who's actually

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01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:59,840
Speaker 4: experiencing it, and not necessarily a professional, because what happens

1967
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 4: on social media is that even the most trained professional

1968
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 4: starts falling into the social media mindset, and then everything

1969
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 4: becomes about clips, and everything becomes about these short equips

1970
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:16,719
Speaker 4: that that that are ultimately empty, so that a real

1971
01:42:17,240 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 4: or or uh uh, a psychologist or therapist outside of

1972
01:42:21,240 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 4: therapy has so much more to say that's not going

1973
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:25,680
Speaker 4: to fit in one minute, and it's not going to

1974
01:42:25,720 --> 01:42:28,839
Speaker 4: fit in four hundred and eighty characters. So you're forced

1975
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 4: to condense your your teaching into whatever, into the into

1976
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 4: the into the culture of whatever uh social media site

1977
01:42:38,439 --> 01:42:41,439
Speaker 4: that you're using, and that completely dilutes it, and that

1978
01:42:41,479 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 4: completely loses the point of why you're supposed to be

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Speaker 4: there in the first place.

1980
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, of course it makes sense. It's also

1981
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,200
Speaker 2: that thing too, where like we talked earlier about the

1982
01:42:53,360 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 2: vaccine and vaccine hesitancy and stuff, and one of the

1983
01:42:57,240 --> 01:43:00,080
Speaker 2: things I forgot to mention was, like, the thing that

1984
01:43:00,080 --> 01:43:03,559
Speaker 2: that really harm, that's really scary about that shit is

1985
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Speaker 2: a death of expertise. Right, it's I'm going to Nicki minaj,

1986
01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,679
Speaker 2: I'm gonna avoid ninety You said when you talked about

1987
01:43:10,680 --> 01:43:12,840
Speaker 2: getting your son vaccinated, the first thing he did was

1988
01:43:12,920 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 2: call his doctor, right, which is what people say, call

1989
01:43:15,680 --> 01:43:18,760
Speaker 2: you talk to your physician, because we know ninety nine

1990
01:43:18,760 --> 01:43:20,639
Speaker 2: point ninety nine percent of them were gonna say, yeah,

1991
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:23,720
Speaker 2: go get vaccinated. Here's I know your specific health chart

1992
01:43:23,760 --> 01:43:27,160
Speaker 2: and your issues, and here's why. But the same thing

1993
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: with social media when it comes to like so many

1994
01:43:29,680 --> 01:43:32,439
Speaker 2: other issues that really do affect people's lives outside of

1995
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: just their phone. The people on the people inside the

1996
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:39,120
Speaker 2: phone can be the yes people like they can be

1997
01:43:39,240 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 2: like those people you talked about with Nikki, where they're

1998
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: just like, I got your back. What I know is

1999
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,040
Speaker 2: support is to be a quote unquote stand And if

2000
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 2: it's a stand for you and your dozen followers, then

2001
01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:52,880
Speaker 2: then I'm this is what I believe is support. Sending

2002
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,800
Speaker 2: you a cat that's support, telling you I'm sorry that

2003
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,960
Speaker 2: happen to you is support. Retweet support, you know, that

2004
01:43:59,080 --> 01:44:01,880
Speaker 2: kind of thing to the point where you know, someone

2005
01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:06,000
Speaker 2: says your doctor told you you may need to lose

2006
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,240
Speaker 2: weight because your blood pressure is hot, and they're like,

2007
01:44:08,479 --> 01:44:11,439
Speaker 2: your doctor's fat phobic and hates that they don't really

2008
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 2: know what's happening, and you're like, well, you didn't see

2009
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,519
Speaker 2: my chart. No, like the person that's on my chart,

2010
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 2: this is what they told me, you know, And I

2011
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,400
Speaker 2: think that can happen. The point being that can happen

2012
01:44:22,439 --> 01:44:25,320
Speaker 2: with TikTok too. Like TikTok is there to make you

2013
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Speaker 2: feel good. So is Facebook, so's Instagram. The side effects

2014
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,599
Speaker 2: may make you feel bad, that's not their intention, but

2015
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 2: they're there to give you the click, the thing that

2016
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 2: the dopamine hit that keeps you going, and it is

2017
01:44:40,520 --> 01:44:43,599
Speaker 2: not designed for every type of brain, to be honest,

2018
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,160
Speaker 2: So to them, they're like, there's a certain amount of

2019
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:47,920
Speaker 2: people that are gonna see the same thing, and some

2020
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,439
Speaker 2: people are gonna be like, oh my god, I love

2021
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 2: this the greatest thing, and then some people's brains are

2022
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,479
Speaker 2: gonna be like this, this makes me feel terrible about

2023
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 2: my body and I don't like this, and they're gonna

2024
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: but you know what, the the site is gonna keep

2025
01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 2: you clicking and you go to click the next thing

2026
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:04,839
Speaker 2: that makes you feel bad about your body and stuff

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01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,559
Speaker 2: because everyone else is there. So I do think that

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Speaker 2: there's my point being, I don't think there's a way

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01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:15,360
Speaker 2: for these sites to completely fix or address these issues.

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Speaker 2: It has to be surface level because the site essentially

2031
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 2: is surface level. The good they do the good they

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01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:24,040
Speaker 2: do with surface level, and the bad they do is

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Speaker 2: service level. So there is no fix that we can

2034
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,680
Speaker 2: look at coming from these websites that were started with

2035
01:45:31,800 --> 01:45:35,400
Speaker 2: venture capitalist money and white dudes, straight white men like

2036
01:45:35,479 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 2: that ain't happening.

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01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 3: But think about this. Think about this, like going back

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01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 3: to the Instagram giving people blah blah blah. Imagine if

2039
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:47,000
Speaker 3: Instagram said, and this happened with OnlyFans. But imagine if

2040
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:50,960
Speaker 3: Instagram said, Okay, we're no longer going to allow profiles

2041
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 3: of scantily cloud women or people with UH or or

2042
01:45:58,240 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 3: or shirtlessless gym selfies or blah blah blah blah. Then

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01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 3: it'd be a conversation about body shaming and trying to

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01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,160
Speaker 3: control people and and and and making people feel bad

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01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 3: about their own bodies and dah dah dah dah.

2046
01:46:10,200 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 4: So there's no there's no winning for losing at all.

2047
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:16,240
Speaker 4: So they You're right, the only thing they can.

2048
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 3: Do is make these cosmetic, uh, surface level changes, because

2049
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 3: anything that is more substantive what really needs to be done,

2050
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:28,120
Speaker 3: is going to be It's going to it's going to

2051
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 3: force uh, it's going to have resistance for people.

2052
01:46:31,520 --> 01:46:37,720
Speaker 4: Who have decided that any good thing has a downside.

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01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,679
Speaker 11: Yeah, it'll be it will actually be work at that point,

2054
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 11: Like at that point they will it will require them

2055
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,040
Speaker 11: to actually go into a business they didn't plan on

2056
01:46:48,120 --> 01:46:50,800
Speaker 11: going into like you know, the best they got for

2057
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:54,200
Speaker 11: you is like I don't know on the better help that.

2058
01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 2: App like we can direct you to this place, but

2059
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 2: they can't. I don't think they can fix these things

2060
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Speaker 2: from it.

2061
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can't. And I really wish that, I really wish.

2062
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:07,800
Speaker 4: That that that that there is more of an emphasis

2063
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 4: on taking responsibility for your own health. I know that

2064
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 4: that's not popular to say. I know that it's not

2065
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 4: you know, someone's gonna listen to this and you know

2066
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:23,439
Speaker 4: at me to death on Twitter, but your mental health

2067
01:47:23,520 --> 01:47:26,519
Speaker 4: is your responsibility. You can ask for help, you can

2068
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:29,920
Speaker 4: get help, you can be helped, but ultimately it is

2069
01:47:30,040 --> 01:47:32,920
Speaker 4: only up to you to make the changes or make

2070
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,960
Speaker 4: the movements necessary to make your life healthier, to live

2071
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 4: a healthier life. In what you said, Rod too is

2072
01:47:40,560 --> 01:47:47,280
Speaker 4: super important. Everything isn't for everybody, right, It's not. Twitter

2073
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:51,320
Speaker 4: can be very unhealthy. I've seen people spiral out. Nicki

2074
01:47:51,360 --> 01:47:55,000
Speaker 4: Minaj is spirally on Twitter right now. It would it

2075
01:47:55,040 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 4: would benefit her to put her phone down, not because

2076
01:47:59,200 --> 01:48:01,280
Speaker 4: someone said, oh I said, someone take her phone, but

2077
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 4: because it is.

2078
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,160
Speaker 3: Not helping her. Clearly it's not helping her.

2079
01:48:04,400 --> 01:48:08,559
Speaker 4: She's spiraling we've seen other people who would benefit from

2080
01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 4: putting their phone down, not on some like on some

2081
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,920
Speaker 4: you know, trite like dismissive shit, but just like it

2082
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 4: is clearly not healthy for you to be in a

2083
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 4: place that only reinforces everything that you do and does

2084
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:26,080
Speaker 4: not challenge you in any meaningful way. Or if you're challenged,

2085
01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:28,600
Speaker 4: you've decided that person is hater, is a hater, or

2086
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:30,680
Speaker 4: is hating you, or doesn't want you to succeed, or

2087
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 4: or is your enemy and disguise or or all these

2088
01:48:33,680 --> 01:48:38,120
Speaker 4: different things. Like it is your responsibility and your responsibility only.

2089
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:39,479
Speaker 3: To make sure that you're okay.

2090
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:42,479
Speaker 4: And if you take that, if you remove the owners

2091
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:44,799
Speaker 4: from yourself and place it in the hands of other people,

2092
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:49,160
Speaker 4: you will never be okay because there's never any incentive

2093
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,080
Speaker 4: for the world at large, the world at large, to

2094
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:54,040
Speaker 4: be protective of you.

2095
01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,400
Speaker 3: It just doesn't work that way. It just doesn't right.

2096
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,479
Speaker 5: And to pick it back on what you was saying,

2097
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 5: so social media is the opposite of responsibility if we're

2098
01:49:03,439 --> 01:49:07,200
Speaker 5: gonna keep it real. And so that's why they want

2099
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:09,040
Speaker 5: you to be there, and they want you to stay there,

2100
01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:12,080
Speaker 5: and they want you to get immos immersed in their world,

2101
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,880
Speaker 5: and it's up to you to determine how much you

2102
01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,400
Speaker 5: consume is up then it's sad, but it's up to

2103
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 5: you to determine. If it's an addiction, it's up to

2104
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 5: you to determine if it fees your depression, if it

2105
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 5: fees your anger, if it fees your sadness. It's like

2106
01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:28,720
Speaker 5: you have to pick up on these things on your

2107
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 5: own accord. And the thing is the site was never

2108
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:39,160
Speaker 5: designed to be responsible for human behavior, and now people

2109
01:49:39,200 --> 01:49:42,920
Speaker 5: are demanding that the site be responsible for human behavior,

2110
01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,439
Speaker 5: which is something a calculator cannot predict because humans are

2111
01:49:46,479 --> 01:49:49,160
Speaker 5: always in X factor. You do not know how humans

2112
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 5: are ever gonna respond to anything, so there's no way

2113
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:55,559
Speaker 5: they could put a calculator behind to calculate how people

2114
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:58,519
Speaker 5: are going to respond to things. And the thing is

2115
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 5: social media allows people to use the excuse of social

2116
01:50:02,479 --> 01:50:05,680
Speaker 5: media to run away from responsibility.

2117
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:08,320
Speaker 2: And the other thing a truly if you're finding the

2118
01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,160
Speaker 2: reason I don't that the reason I'm hesitant about it

2119
01:50:11,479 --> 01:50:14,439
Speaker 2: when it comes to people being supportive via social media

2120
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 2: is that the social media people that make it up

2121
01:50:19,479 --> 01:50:24,519
Speaker 2: as zeitgeist is fickled. So I like, I don't want

2122
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 2: you to you need to find your footing within yourself

2123
01:50:27,240 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 2: because if you find it there, I've seen it change

2124
01:50:31,200 --> 01:50:35,719
Speaker 2: so quickly. Yes, literally one thing changes. People go from

2125
01:50:35,800 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 2: like I'm rooting for you, you're the best, I love you,

2126
01:50:39,760 --> 01:50:42,720
Speaker 2: and then they find out you said something twenty years

2127
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 2: ago and then they're like, kill yourself. If your confidence

2128
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:49,760
Speaker 2: is coming from there, then that means the things that.

2129
01:50:50,120 --> 01:50:52,280
Speaker 5: That are negative are going to come from there too.

2130
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:55,640
Speaker 2: So you do want to find some more solid foundation,

2131
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's why you for me, you know,

2132
01:50:58,080 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 2: I find that with my friends and my offline relationships

2133
01:51:01,880 --> 01:51:06,320
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, because that's solid. There's a there's

2134
01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:11,080
Speaker 2: a there's a buy in there between me and my

2135
01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:14,280
Speaker 2: friends that's like, hey, if we disagree on something, you

2136
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:16,080
Speaker 2: don't become the worst person in the world to me.

2137
01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:20,559
Speaker 2: And there's a and and and you actually do exist.

2138
01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 2: You don't go away right when when something like when

2139
01:51:25,160 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 2: when something happens in your life and I'm not a

2140
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,360
Speaker 2: part of it, it's not like, well fuck it, you

2141
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:31,200
Speaker 2: know what I mean, they got nothing to do with me.

2142
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,800
Speaker 2: So I think that's a big that's a big difference

2143
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:37,439
Speaker 2: in uh in the in and one of the reasons

2144
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:40,519
Speaker 2: that I'm always a little hesitant to see social media

2145
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:43,760
Speaker 2: as a solution because I've seen it be the downfall

2146
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:45,000
Speaker 2: way too often.

2147
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 5: You look at what support looks like online.

2148
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:52,640
Speaker 2: It's Shikari Richardson mom died. She's self sabotaged with marijuana,

2149
01:51:52,720 --> 01:51:55,920
Speaker 2: and we're like, there should be no rules on marijuana.

2150
01:51:55,960 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 2: We don't care about her. It's Naomiosaka says, hey, I'm

2151
01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:04,360
Speaker 2: having a mental fucking breakdown. I've had anxiety for years.

2152
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:07,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel excited when I win at the thing

2153
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:10,439
Speaker 2: I'm the greatest in the world, that I only feel relieved.

2154
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,560
Speaker 2: We don't go that sounds like signs of possible clinical depression,

2155
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 2: and we don't say that. We go, uh, Lee, stop

2156
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,519
Speaker 2: asking her courses at the press conference so she can

2157
01:52:20,520 --> 01:52:22,400
Speaker 2: go beat these white women and we can all pretend

2158
01:52:22,439 --> 01:52:26,240
Speaker 2: that everything's everything makes us feel good, and that kind

2159
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:30,800
Speaker 2: of stuff isn't really support. And when you watch, when

2160
01:52:30,840 --> 01:52:33,320
Speaker 2: you watch the Internet turn on these people, you know,

2161
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:37,200
Speaker 2: because the same Internet that makes Chloe Bailey feel like

2162
01:52:37,280 --> 01:52:39,400
Speaker 2: super happy is the same internet that makes her cry,

2163
01:52:39,680 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 2: same thing with Lizo. So so no, I don't think

2164
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 2: it's a good place to get a foundation. And like

2165
01:52:45,160 --> 01:52:49,040
Speaker 2: I said, I'm not against TikTok for bonism resources, but

2166
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 2: I'll be damned if I think like, oh, well, then

2167
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:56,000
Speaker 2: obviously this will fix everything. Dum No, it won't even

2168
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:57,120
Speaker 2: be a step in the right direction.

2169
01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I think we talked about this all the time,

2170
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:08,760
Speaker 3: like being honest about why you're on these platforms, you know,

2171
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 3: Like I've been tweeting a lot the last couple of

2172
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:14,800
Speaker 3: weeks because there's stuff having in my private life and

2173
01:53:14,880 --> 01:53:17,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, I want to talk about sad lasso,

2174
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,080
Speaker 3: I want to talk about, you know whatever. I want.

2175
01:53:20,160 --> 01:53:24,320
Speaker 4: I want this space to provide a place for me

2176
01:53:24,360 --> 01:53:27,479
Speaker 4: to put some stuff that isn't personal, because I know

2177
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 4: it's not safe there, right and I know it's not

2178
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 4: safe there. I do not want it to live in

2179
01:53:33,720 --> 01:53:36,240
Speaker 4: this in this in this place. So I'm going to

2180
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:40,640
Speaker 4: do with this space what makes sense for me and

2181
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:44,599
Speaker 4: not put my my my well being good or bad

2182
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,800
Speaker 4: into it. And I think that a lot of times

2183
01:53:46,840 --> 01:53:51,120
Speaker 4: when people come online and they say, oh, this is

2184
01:53:51,120 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 4: the only place that I feel blah blah blah, and

2185
01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 4: I have to think about Okay, So that's a problem.

2186
01:53:57,120 --> 01:54:02,000
Speaker 4: If this thing that could literally go down like Jack

2187
01:54:02,080 --> 01:54:03,559
Speaker 4: could be like, fuck it, I don't want to do

2188
01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:07,759
Speaker 4: Twitter anymore and take this whole side down, or whoever

2189
01:54:07,800 --> 01:54:11,879
Speaker 4: owns TikTok, I can just take that down or whatever.

2190
01:54:12,360 --> 01:54:14,479
Speaker 4: If that is the only place that you have found

2191
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,400
Speaker 4: in order to be or do anything, be it personal

2192
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,200
Speaker 4: or business wise, then you really don't have anything. And

2193
01:54:22,200 --> 01:54:24,679
Speaker 4: that's something that you need to figure out for yourself.

2194
01:54:24,920 --> 01:54:27,639
Speaker 4: You need to figure out why you do not have

2195
01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 4: friends outside of Twitter, why you don't have you know,

2196
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:34,000
Speaker 4: a business or social life outside of that.

2197
01:54:34,320 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 3: It's no longer.

2198
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 4: I think it's gone from making fun of people who

2199
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,840
Speaker 4: are always on the computer to making fun of people who.

2200
01:54:42,360 --> 01:54:49,200
Speaker 3: Who don't, you know, live their entire lives online. Right, Yeah,

2201
01:54:49,280 --> 01:54:50,560
Speaker 3: there's there's there's a middle place.

2202
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:53,840
Speaker 4: If you're telling me that the only place that was

2203
01:54:53,920 --> 01:54:55,320
Speaker 4: something that I don't know what it was, and I

2204
01:54:55,320 --> 01:54:56,760
Speaker 4: think I might have shared it with you, right, Like

2205
01:54:57,040 --> 01:55:01,800
Speaker 4: somebody said something about like like they only oh it

2206
01:55:01,920 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 4: was that article I sent you about the woman who

2207
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:07,840
Speaker 4: wrote about how she isn't a when to disclose all

2208
01:55:07,920 --> 01:55:14,520
Speaker 4: her chronic mental and physical issues on Hinder and yeah,

2209
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,760
Speaker 4: and like my thing was like you are not entitled

2210
01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:23,600
Speaker 4: to people understanding or wanting to deal with you mentally

2211
01:55:23,680 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 4: or physically, it would be nice, but to put it

2212
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:29,240
Speaker 4: on other people and say, if you don't want to

2213
01:55:29,280 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 4: deal with my borderline personality disorder, there's something wrong with you.

2214
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:42,520
Speaker 3: But if I don't want deal with you, be come still.

2215
01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 3: Like being in a bubble where people agree with a

2216
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 3: statement like that is not healthy because you can't take that.

2217
01:55:48,840 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 2: Out of.

2218
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,760
Speaker 4: Your article or Twitter and put it into real life

2219
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 4: because you're not going to get that support in real

2220
01:55:56,240 --> 01:56:00,280
Speaker 4: life because it is it's untenable and it's unreasonable to

2221
01:56:00,360 --> 01:56:02,160
Speaker 4: want that from the world at large.

2222
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, I think I agree with you. Now

2223
01:56:05,520 --> 01:56:09,280
Speaker 2: I agree with you because I think that's but that's

2224
01:56:09,320 --> 01:56:12,200
Speaker 2: the environment we can create for ourselves online. So we

2225
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,360
Speaker 2: can just make a world where it's like, yeah, everyone

2226
01:56:15,520 --> 01:56:21,800
Speaker 2: understands that if you're if you're having an outburst because

2227
01:56:22,080 --> 01:56:24,400
Speaker 2: of you're not taking care of your mental health and

2228
01:56:24,480 --> 01:56:27,919
Speaker 2: something happened and you did some horrible shit to somebody,

2229
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,240
Speaker 2: they should just understand that's part of the deal. And

2230
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,480
Speaker 2: we love you. We forgive you because we don't know

2231
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:34,960
Speaker 2: this other person. We won't give a funk about them.

2232
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 2: We love you, and so everyone should love you and

2233
01:56:37,480 --> 01:56:41,600
Speaker 2: everyone and anybody that tells you that that they're not

2234
01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 2: willing to deal with that they're ablest, or they're racist,

2235
01:56:44,240 --> 01:56:47,640
Speaker 2: or they're bigger or so you're like, yeah, but that

2236
01:56:47,640 --> 01:56:52,320
Speaker 2: then denies the entire real world, the real human experience,

2237
01:56:52,440 --> 01:56:55,200
Speaker 2: or just you know, that person might not be able

2238
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,360
Speaker 2: to handle that, and there should be something there's something

2239
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:01,040
Speaker 2: about the honesty of saying I can't handle that that

2240
01:57:01,120 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 2: should be respected anybody else. We call it a boundary,

2241
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,240
Speaker 2: right because there's a lot of people. The thing that

2242
01:57:07,240 --> 01:57:08,840
Speaker 2: bothers me is there's a lot of people online that

2243
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 2: have the solutions, but that and my solutions, I mean

2244
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:14,360
Speaker 2: had quotes that have all the solutions, but it never

2245
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:15,160
Speaker 2: works right.

2246
01:57:15,160 --> 01:57:17,480
Speaker 5: It's always like I would know how to handle that.

2247
01:57:17,640 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 3: You know.

2248
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:21,240
Speaker 2: You always see like, here's this hypothetical situation. See what

2249
01:57:21,320 --> 01:57:24,520
Speaker 2: I would do is I would go. Then you're like that, Okay,

2250
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 2: you've never been in this situation, you know, because this,

2251
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, this also happens whenever someone does die by suicide,

2252
01:57:32,040 --> 01:57:36,240
Speaker 2: everyone posts all this subli like this is everyone else's fault.

2253
01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:39,600
Speaker 2: You don't check on your strong friends, or you weren't

2254
01:57:39,680 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 2: doing this, or someone dies from like addiction issues.

2255
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:43,040
Speaker 3: This is.

2256
01:57:43,160 --> 01:57:46,480
Speaker 2: This is this person, this famous person is puff Daddy's fault.

2257
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:50,000
Speaker 2: This is And you're like, I don't think you understand

2258
01:57:50,040 --> 01:57:53,560
Speaker 2: how any of that works. That like, puff Daddy can't

2259
01:57:53,640 --> 01:57:58,480
Speaker 2: make someone not do heroin. He can't make someone do heroin, right,

2260
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:01,000
Speaker 2: So as long as we're just looking for someone to blame,

2261
01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:08,000
Speaker 2: we're not really addressing anybody's issues. Anyway. I think might

2262
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 2: have dropped. Oh hello there, Yeah, okay, your picture out,

2263
01:58:13,080 --> 01:58:16,240
Speaker 2: but you're there. Yeah, but don't worry about it. Don't worry.

2264
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm about to wrap it up. Anyway. We've been talking

2265
01:58:18,160 --> 01:58:21,760
Speaker 2: two hours already, we had let's just we get to

2266
01:58:21,800 --> 01:58:22,440
Speaker 2: talk to them.

2267
01:58:22,640 --> 01:58:24,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the time go by fast.

2268
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,480
Speaker 2: We get to talking, we're having such a great time,

2269
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,720
Speaker 2: and uh, next thing, you know, I look up and

2270
01:58:28,760 --> 01:58:30,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't keep you here all day?

2271
01:58:32,160 --> 01:58:34,640
Speaker 3: But uh seen that long?

2272
01:58:34,840 --> 01:58:37,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't, it doesn't. I had, like, guess the race

2273
01:58:37,480 --> 01:58:39,760
Speaker 2: queued up and all this stuff, but I don't know that.

2274
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 2: We'll be probably getting to like two and a half

2275
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 2: hours by then. But listen, BOSSI, it's always so lovely

2276
01:58:46,960 --> 01:58:50,400
Speaker 2: to talk to you, and it's always I feel like

2277
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:54,040
Speaker 2: I love you too, and I feel like, you know,

2278
01:58:54,160 --> 01:58:56,560
Speaker 2: sometimes I think people think because we don't we're not

2279
01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:00,640
Speaker 2: doing a podcast, we're not talking, and it's like, no,

2280
01:59:00,720 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping all the bossy to myself.

2281
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:10,000
Speaker 3: He talks literally every single day, all day every day,

2282
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:13,360
Speaker 3: Like Rod is my for real friend.

2283
01:59:13,400 --> 01:59:16,160
Speaker 4: We've never met, so all the shit I just.

2284
01:59:16,120 --> 01:59:19,280
Speaker 3: Said, ignore it. Yes, we've never ever met in person.

2285
01:59:19,480 --> 01:59:21,160
Speaker 2: And I support everything.

2286
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 4: All the time. He's a person I support.

2287
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,440
Speaker 2: I support everything she does, even when it's bad. I

2288
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:27,480
Speaker 2: tell her it's good.

2289
01:59:27,960 --> 01:59:31,680
Speaker 3: And everything that I say.

2290
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:35,640
Speaker 4: He never goes against anything. I'm always forcing him to.

2291
01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 3: Retweet me.

2292
01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:42,120
Speaker 2: Her behalf like he does.

2293
01:59:42,920 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 4: He goes into people's d MS, cuts him out for

2294
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:50,480
Speaker 4: he dos his people for me. No, but like whatever,

2295
01:59:50,800 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 4: Like there's always a moment when I'm like getting too

2296
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:57,200
Speaker 4: caught up in something and I will take the tweet,

2297
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,480
Speaker 4: send it to Rod and be like should delete this

2298
01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:03,760
Speaker 4: and He'll be like yeah, deleted or and I'm like

2299
02:00:03,840 --> 02:00:06,160
Speaker 4: all right, Like that's that's the kind of friends we are,

2300
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 4: Like there's never gonna be some dumb shit that get

2301
02:00:08,800 --> 02:00:11,640
Speaker 4: caught up in because because we won't allow it.

2302
02:00:11,880 --> 02:00:15,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like honestly, and plus I think when you have

2303
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:18,800
Speaker 2: all the incriminating screen shots on each other. It's like

2304
02:00:18,960 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 2: mutual understanding. It's like mutually assured destruction.

2305
02:00:22,760 --> 02:00:24,760
Speaker 5: We don't need y'all know, we really think about these

2306
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 5: mother fuckers, y'all. Y'all gonna be going down, all right.

2307
02:00:28,120 --> 02:00:31,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, but no, obviously, it's always a joy to

2308
02:00:31,920 --> 02:00:36,680
Speaker 2: talk to you, and we do plan on recap and insecure,

2309
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 2: so you will get some more of this too much.

2310
02:00:40,840 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 2: I know we've been getting a lot of questions and

2311
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,520
Speaker 2: and all that stuff, but you know what, it's fine.

2312
02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:50,640
Speaker 2: We'll look forward to the future when we're back and

2313
02:00:50,680 --> 02:00:54,160
Speaker 2: we're talking about condoling that damn baby.

2314
02:00:54,360 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Well, how often I forget and then

2315
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,040
Speaker 3: I remember, like I wh yeah, if.

2316
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:06,720
Speaker 2: I hit me, I'm like, you want to recap this?

2317
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:10,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, you want to recap this because I do,

2318
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:13,480
Speaker 2: you know, I'm always down the clown, but I'm like,

2319
02:01:14,200 --> 02:01:16,400
Speaker 2: you show because I feel like we're gonna have a

2320
02:01:16,440 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 2: lot of like our long rants about.

2321
02:01:21,440 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 3: Honestly, honestly, I might not even say I'd be like,

2322
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,880
Speaker 3: all right, this is a condola section, and Rod is

2323
02:01:28,920 --> 02:01:29,440
Speaker 3: gonna take that.

2324
02:01:29,720 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 2: It's just gonna be me describing it, and you will

2325
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,160
Speaker 2: get back. Yeah, so she brought the baby by Lawrence's

2326
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,720
Speaker 2: house and then he wasn't home, so then she had

2327
02:01:38,760 --> 02:01:40,840
Speaker 2: to go home. She seemed pretty upset. So then in

2328
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:43,640
Speaker 2: this scene he said, Lawrence go out to dinner.

2329
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,720
Speaker 5: It's like, it's like, oh, Bossie's back, all right, we'll

2330
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 5: be back.

2331
02:01:49,520 --> 02:01:52,440
Speaker 4: Well, you know what, go ahead, we have Insecure and

2332
02:01:52,480 --> 02:01:55,800
Speaker 4: then Atlanta, Yes, and come back when it comes back,

2333
02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:56,520
Speaker 4: comes back.

2334
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,760
Speaker 3: So we're like, is what Atlanta comes back?

2335
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 4: And twenty twenty two, but so does by the time

2336
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 4: Insecure finishes, then Atlanta and this is us we'll start

2337
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:08,360
Speaker 4: let's go.

2338
02:02:09,080 --> 02:02:13,880
Speaker 2: So and if listening, if you're down to recap any

2339
02:02:13,880 --> 02:02:15,160
Speaker 2: of it, you know, I'll make the time.

2340
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 3: So I wish we could have done ted Lasso, but

2341
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:19,440
Speaker 3: there's not enough black people in it.

2342
02:02:20,840 --> 02:02:25,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that joint. And I started the other two and

2343
02:02:25,520 --> 02:02:28,120
Speaker 2: I was like, it's a lack of melon and on

2344
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:30,520
Speaker 2: the show. But I still enjoy I still enjoy both.

2345
02:02:30,520 --> 02:02:32,360
Speaker 5: Oh so, so y'all got a rude and it got

2346
02:02:32,360 --> 02:02:33,040
Speaker 5: to be Melanitz.

2347
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 3: When did you start? When did you start the other two?

2348
02:02:35,720 --> 02:02:39,000
Speaker 2: Today? I just started watching like the first couple of ourselves.

2349
02:02:39,360 --> 02:02:41,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, and obviously.

2350
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:43,480
Speaker 3: One of the shows this sneaks up on you. It

2351
02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:44,240
Speaker 3: sneaks up on you.

2352
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh no, I heard nothing but good things. And I'm

2353
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:52,160
Speaker 2: I don't mind white people shows, honestly, I'll be low key.

2354
02:02:52,760 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 2: I honestly like them a little bit better sometimes because

2355
02:02:55,640 --> 02:02:58,840
Speaker 2: the lack of stress is gone. Like with black s

2356
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 2: is always like this weird kind of representational, Like even

2357
02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:05,680
Speaker 2: if I don't feel it, does this like what these

2358
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:08,400
Speaker 2: niggas gonna say about it on Facebook or whatever, and

2359
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:10,560
Speaker 2: it's this way. I don't have to feel that way.

2360
02:03:10,600 --> 02:03:13,440
Speaker 2: I'm just like, Okay, Emily's in Paris. Okay, we're doing this.

2361
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Let's move on.

2362
02:03:17,320 --> 02:03:20,360
Speaker 3: We talked about The Morning Show and like people were

2363
02:03:20,360 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 3: telling me not to watch it was.

2364
02:03:21,600 --> 02:03:23,920
Speaker 4: So traumatic, and I was like, did I not watch it?

2365
02:03:23,960 --> 02:03:25,880
Speaker 3: I thought I watched the first season, but y'all are

2366
02:03:25,880 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 3: telling me there was traumatic. And then I went back

2367
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:29,640
Speaker 3: when I started watching the.

2368
02:03:31,160 --> 02:03:35,160
Speaker 4: Recapitalist season premiere, I was like, I remember all the

2369
02:03:35,200 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 4: shit that happened. It just happened that Like it's like

2370
02:03:38,160 --> 02:03:40,760
Speaker 4: we want representation, like we want to just be in

2371
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:43,520
Speaker 4: some shit, but then when we were in it, we

2372
02:03:44,280 --> 02:03:47,520
Speaker 4: ascribe all this racial politics to it. When it's like

2373
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,680
Speaker 4: if a white bitch was in this role and died,

2374
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:52,320
Speaker 4: nobody would say anything.

2375
02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 3: It's just the way that it is like part of

2376
02:03:54,640 --> 02:03:57,200
Speaker 3: the plot, Like why does it? Why are we putting

2377
02:03:57,240 --> 02:03:59,640
Speaker 3: extra sauce on it to make it traumatic for us?

2378
02:03:59,640 --> 02:04:02,360
Speaker 3: Like why be traumatized so bad? Yeah?

2379
02:04:02,400 --> 02:04:06,280
Speaker 2: I don't, Yeah, I don't think people really want representation

2380
02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:09,960
Speaker 2: as much as they want aspirational roles for people they

2381
02:04:09,960 --> 02:04:13,960
Speaker 2: want they want Like if like this happens so often

2382
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 2: with Twitter, I just now just laugh at it and

2383
02:04:16,400 --> 02:04:19,520
Speaker 2: I don't even engage. But it's if you introduce a

2384
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:23,040
Speaker 2: black character on any level in a show and they're

2385
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:27,040
Speaker 2: not the main character, people will then attach themselves so

2386
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:29,600
Speaker 2: much to that character that they're like, this is the

2387
02:04:29,640 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 2: main character. Regardless of everything, the writing, the plot, the billing,

2388
02:04:33,760 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 2: the casting, the pay, everything, everything is saying, this person

2389
02:04:38,240 --> 02:04:40,480
Speaker 2: is the B or SEA level character in this show.

2390
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 2: No longer I'm black and I've decided that this is

2391
02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:46,800
Speaker 2: her show or his show. And then it becomes like

2392
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,720
Speaker 2: they can't have a B or C level plot, like

2393
02:04:50,640 --> 02:04:52,840
Speaker 2: you know, which happens in everything. We're like the main

2394
02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:55,360
Speaker 2: character has an arc, but then the supporting characters have

2395
02:04:55,400 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 2: different arcs, and there's not They're not gonna ever put

2396
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 2: as much time in their arcs. They're never gonna get

2397
02:05:00,480 --> 02:05:03,320
Speaker 2: the same level of resolution as the other characters. They

2398
02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:08,240
Speaker 2: will be uh there to to assist in the role

2399
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:10,800
Speaker 2: in the in the in the title characters thing right,

2400
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,840
Speaker 2: and these niggas do It's like they never heard of

2401
02:05:13,840 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 2: a TV show before. They really be like, what she

2402
02:05:17,080 --> 02:05:20,720
Speaker 2: didn't win? And then tell her, white bitch, this is

2403
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:22,840
Speaker 2: my show actually, And I'm really.

2404
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:27,080
Speaker 3: No, what gets me? What gets me?

2405
02:05:27,240 --> 02:05:29,920
Speaker 4: Just when they're like, oh, so, she's only there to

2406
02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:34,360
Speaker 4: make sure that the white main character her storyline gets resolved.

2407
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:38,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, what a meek And you know what else?

2408
02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 2: So is so is every other character. Like, it's not

2409
02:05:43,680 --> 02:05:46,360
Speaker 2: just something that only the black character does. It's like

2410
02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 2: and so does the boyfriend, and so does her boss

2411
02:05:50,240 --> 02:05:52,080
Speaker 2: at work, and so does.

2412
02:05:51,840 --> 02:05:55,480
Speaker 5: Her like up to the roommate.

2413
02:05:55,720 --> 02:05:59,000
Speaker 2: Every character that is not the main character is there

2414
02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:01,600
Speaker 2: to impart art some sort of thing to the story

2415
02:06:01,600 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 2: of the main character. That's just what it is. And

2416
02:06:03,680 --> 02:06:07,680
Speaker 2: I think when it's all black people sometimes people relax more.

2417
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:11,360
Speaker 2: Where it's like, well, I can be mad at Molly,

2418
02:06:11,800 --> 02:06:14,040
Speaker 2: but there's twenty seven black people on this show. But

2419
02:06:14,120 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 2: when there's one black person, it's almost said about Kelly.

2420
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:18,640
Speaker 3: They get upset about Kelly.

2421
02:06:18,680 --> 02:06:22,400
Speaker 4: How many times people decide that Kelly should have should

2422
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 4: be the main character when she's not, And the and.

2423
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:28,480
Speaker 3: The actress who is also the writer, has said, this is.

2424
02:06:28,400 --> 02:06:31,440
Speaker 4: Not Kelly's story, this is about Molly and Issa, But

2425
02:06:31,480 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 4: it doesn't stop people from deciding that she should be

2426
02:06:33,960 --> 02:06:36,280
Speaker 4: the one who has all the storylines and right teaching

2427
02:06:36,480 --> 02:06:39,360
Speaker 4: horticulture children, or I don't never forget that.

2428
02:06:39,440 --> 02:06:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when those kind of people watch a

2429
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:48,080
Speaker 2: black show, they get mad about every character. When they

2430
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:50,160
Speaker 2: watch a white show with a black person, they get

2431
02:06:50,200 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 2: mad about the black persons. Where you're just like, oh,

2432
02:06:52,960 --> 02:06:54,919
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I thought I was talking to a reasonable

2433
02:06:54,920 --> 02:06:57,600
Speaker 2: person who had watched TV before. I actually don't want

2434
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:00,560
Speaker 2: to talk to you about this at all. I'm gonna

2435
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 2: keep my thoughts to myself about The Morning Show. But yeah,

2436
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,080
Speaker 2: I forgot that it was back. I love season one

2437
02:07:07,160 --> 02:07:09,120
Speaker 2: so much, so I gotta get back on that, and

2438
02:07:09,160 --> 02:07:11,920
Speaker 2: I gotta start watching this season to ted Lasso, because

2439
02:07:12,080 --> 02:07:15,160
Speaker 2: I was behind everybody else and Binge the first season

2440
02:07:15,240 --> 02:07:18,360
Speaker 2: and thought it was brilliant. I hear this season is

2441
02:07:18,360 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 2: week by week.

2442
02:07:19,000 --> 02:07:20,800
Speaker 3: It only get better, is it?

2443
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:23,000
Speaker 2: So it's week by week it's.

2444
02:07:22,920 --> 02:07:23,920
Speaker 3: Always been week by week.

2445
02:07:23,960 --> 02:07:28,360
Speaker 4: I didn't Roger's seen it the first season of the

2446
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:31,120
Speaker 4: Morning Show, so I just thought, oh, it's coming back,

2447
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 4: I'm gonna watch it all. But it's week by week?

2448
02:07:35,600 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 2: Is it? Is it over already? No?

2449
02:07:39,360 --> 02:07:41,120
Speaker 3: It's uh the Ted Last.

2450
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:47,080
Speaker 4: Ted Lasso is I think we just did episode nine.

2451
02:07:47,920 --> 02:07:51,440
Speaker 3: It's almost and there's three more. There's three more episodes.

2452
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:54,120
Speaker 4: There's three more episodes because they had a ten season.

2453
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:57,480
Speaker 4: They had ten ten episodes mapped out, and then Apple

2454
02:07:57,600 --> 02:08:00,000
Speaker 4: asked for two more, so there are a couple of

2455
02:08:00,440 --> 02:08:03,160
Speaker 4: bottle episodes with The show is so well done that

2456
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:05,920
Speaker 4: even the battle episodes are connected, and like you would

2457
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,280
Speaker 4: never think that they didn't have these already planned out,

2458
02:08:08,640 --> 02:08:09,520
Speaker 4: but there.

2459
02:08:09,200 --> 02:08:11,520
Speaker 3: You can, you'd be able to tell. But it just

2460
02:08:11,600 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 3: it connects so well.

2461
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:16,800
Speaker 4: People were talking about like episode five, people were talking

2462
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:18,440
Speaker 4: about it wasn't as good as the first, but it's

2463
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:22,080
Speaker 4: like your expectations are exactly what this show is about.

2464
02:08:22,520 --> 02:08:25,560
Speaker 4: Like you wanted it to be about something else and

2465
02:08:25,600 --> 02:08:28,040
Speaker 4: they're telling you it's not. But you can't deal with that,

2466
02:08:28,200 --> 02:08:30,560
Speaker 4: Like you want to say it's bad instead of going

2467
02:08:30,560 --> 02:08:32,640
Speaker 4: with what it actually it is.

2468
02:08:32,680 --> 02:08:35,200
Speaker 3: But it's so it's such a good show. It quickly

2469
02:08:35,240 --> 02:08:36,320
Speaker 3: became my favorite show.

2470
02:08:36,800 --> 02:08:38,920
Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I love. I watched the season one

2471
02:08:38,920 --> 02:08:40,680
Speaker 2: and was like in love with the show. I was

2472
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:43,040
Speaker 2: just like, oh, this is amazing, this is even that.

2473
02:08:43,040 --> 02:08:44,800
Speaker 2: This one of a few times y'all said something was

2474
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:48,680
Speaker 2: good and you're delivered, you know what I mean, Like

2475
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,880
Speaker 2: like it was like, it actually is good. It's not

2476
02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:55,200
Speaker 2: just like preachy bullshit, although I do. I really wish

2477
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,840
Speaker 2: the people who loved it would stop just selling it

2478
02:08:57,880 --> 02:09:01,480
Speaker 2: as this kind of weird tox positivity thing because it's

2479
02:09:01,480 --> 02:09:04,440
Speaker 2: it's actually not. Yes, it's not.

2480
02:09:05,760 --> 02:09:07,280
Speaker 3: People are like, oh, it's so wholesome.

2481
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, I mean, I guess I'm like a

2482
02:09:11,600 --> 02:09:12,720
Speaker 2: lot of fucked up. It's not.

2483
02:09:13,160 --> 02:09:14,160
Speaker 3: It's like if I told.

2484
02:09:13,960 --> 02:09:16,040
Speaker 2: You the plotline and left out all the jokes, it's

2485
02:09:16,080 --> 02:09:18,879
Speaker 2: not wholesome at all, like at all.

2486
02:09:20,920 --> 02:09:21,560
Speaker 3: At all.

2487
02:09:22,240 --> 02:09:25,640
Speaker 2: It's like this Nigga is dealing with like the denial

2488
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:29,120
Speaker 2: of his divorce and fucking his family separating.

2489
02:09:29,840 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 6: Uh.

2490
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:33,760
Speaker 2: The owner of the team is a woman who's also

2491
02:09:33,840 --> 02:09:37,520
Speaker 2: going through a womanizing divorce, like a divorce of a

2492
02:09:37,560 --> 02:09:42,160
Speaker 2: womanizer who who is really low key rubbing her nose

2493
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:46,360
Speaker 2: in this ship, and Roy is dealing with aging and

2494
02:09:46,440 --> 02:09:48,440
Speaker 2: a sport that gets rid of you as soon as

2495
02:09:48,440 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 2: you like your knees creak a little bit. Jamie's a

2496
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:55,840
Speaker 2: fucking raging narcissist who's trying to learn some level of it.

2497
02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:57,840
Speaker 3: Has has an abusive father.

2498
02:09:58,160 --> 02:10:00,760
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, what are.

2499
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:01,560
Speaker 2: You talking about?

2500
02:10:01,640 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 5: I don't know what they had like.

2501
02:10:03,800 --> 02:10:04,920
Speaker 2: This ship is telling Tubby.

2502
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:07,040
Speaker 4: The first couple of episodes, I will let you get

2503
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:09,240
Speaker 4: away with it. But after a while it's like, are

2504
02:10:09,280 --> 02:10:11,160
Speaker 4: you joking? This show is dark?

2505
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:15,960
Speaker 2: Right, it's so good? Oh man, all right, that's someone asked.

2506
02:10:16,160 --> 02:10:19,480
Speaker 2: Someone said, when we get into this rabbit hole, And uh, honestly,

2507
02:10:19,520 --> 02:10:21,360
Speaker 2: I didn't think we would, but I was wrong and

2508
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,000
Speaker 2: you were right. So if you're on Twitter, go ahead

2509
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:26,040
Speaker 2: patch yourself on the back. You know us better than

2510
02:10:26,040 --> 02:10:28,920
Speaker 2: I knew ourselves. And we'll be back tomorrow. Justin will

2511
02:10:28,960 --> 02:10:30,880
Speaker 2: be the guest, and then Tuesday, Mike Lawrence will be

2512
02:10:30,880 --> 02:10:34,320
Speaker 2: the guest. Wednesday is our Walking Dad recap, and Thursday

2513
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:37,480
Speaker 2: is our live show. Don't forget. You can get tickets

2514
02:10:37,560 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 2: in the show notes. Okay, come out support, look at

2515
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,000
Speaker 2: it virtually.

2516
02:10:41,720 --> 02:10:43,520
Speaker 5: And y'all are getting them tickets.

2517
02:10:43,560 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Yes, y'all, thank you.

2518
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:50,520
Speaker 3: I told Rod that they should fly me out. That's

2519
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:51,360
Speaker 3: a surprise guest.

2520
02:10:51,440 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 2: They really should. But I was like, we already had

2521
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:55,840
Speaker 2: invited to.

2522
02:10:55,880 --> 02:11:01,880
Speaker 4: Guests, but maybe maybe next time, you know, going down

2523
02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:02,480
Speaker 4: him down.

2524
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:06,840
Speaker 2: Because listen, they like, we're selling enough tickets for them

2525
02:11:06,880 --> 02:11:09,840
Speaker 2: to be treating us nice and ship they.

2526
02:11:09,440 --> 02:11:13,160
Speaker 5: Wave we sell enough tickets, but they waving feed. Don't

2527
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:13,680
Speaker 5: worry about that.

2528
02:11:13,800 --> 02:11:15,840
Speaker 2: They were like, they were like because I was like,

2529
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:17,840
Speaker 2: don't forget we need the projector and the guy. The

2530
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:20,240
Speaker 2: guy was like, yeah, that's five hundred dollars fee and stuff.

2531
02:11:20,240 --> 02:11:22,320
Speaker 2: I was like, out of our side. And then I

2532
02:11:22,360 --> 02:11:23,920
Speaker 2: was like, I was like, let me ask one of

2533
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 2: the guys and he's like, oh no, we got that.

2534
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,360
Speaker 2: And he was like anything y'all need backstage? I was like,

2535
02:11:28,440 --> 02:11:30,960
Speaker 2: I guess just water and snacks, and I thought about

2536
02:11:30,920 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 2: I was like, actually, you know, how about some some

2537
02:11:33,160 --> 02:11:35,240
Speaker 2: crime royal. He's like, yeah, we got that.

2538
02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:38,720
Speaker 3: Get a writer, you gotta get I'm about to be eating.

2539
02:11:39,960 --> 02:11:41,800
Speaker 3: Come on, let's go, come on.

2540
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:43,720
Speaker 5: Put him M and M's on a missed Rail. I

2541
02:11:43,760 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 5: love missing M and MS.

2542
02:11:44,800 --> 02:11:48,760
Speaker 2: Now all right, y'all, we'll talk to you tomorrow. Until then, Bossie,

2543
02:11:48,920 --> 02:11:52,440
Speaker 2: I love you, I love you, Bossy we love you,

2544
02:11:52,600 --> 02:12:00,440
Speaker 2: and Karen I love you. Love you. Oh, because we

2545
02:12:00,480 --> 02:12:03,880
Speaker 2: threw Bossy up and it became like a way kind

2546
02:12:03,880 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 2: of hairlin worst of joint.

2547
02:12:07,920 --> 02:12:09,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is like you woul't want to dream.

2548
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:12,880
Speaker 2: It became some weird, it got it got too awkward

2549
02:12:12,960 --> 02:12:16,280
Speaker 2: and weird. The whole the whole orgy is called.

2550
02:12:16,240 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 5: Yeah we we Yeah, we don't know how to act

2551
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:20,280
Speaker 5: when other people get involved. My bad bossing.

2552
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:21,840
Speaker 2: Okay, until next time. I love it.

2553
02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:22,800
Speaker 5: I love it, dude, fly