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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys like d Lamb and now your hosts Dane Brugler,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, Kevin Turner and Kyle Yeomans on we are

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Speaker 1: just fifty five days away from the NFL Draft as

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Speaker 1: we continue on this long off season journey that is

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. It's a brand

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Speaker 1: new Thursday edition. We're glad you're along with us here

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Speaker 1: on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Kyle Yeoman's alongside Dame Brugler,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Cavanaugh, and the great Kevin kat Turner as always

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Speaker 1: here on this Thursday. Guys were starting to get close.

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Speaker 1: We talked about it on Tuesday with the other group

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Speaker 1: of guys. But the combine now should be quote unquote

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Speaker 1: in the rear view mirror. But there's still a lot

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Speaker 1: of information gathering to be done because protas are on

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Speaker 1: the horizon, Dane, and it continues to be an offseason

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Speaker 1: and a draft process really unlike any other. Yeah, that continues.

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Speaker 1: We had the combine list come out this week, which

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Speaker 1: is interesting because it means not quite as much this

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Speaker 1: something because you know, a you in terms of the medicals,

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Speaker 1: that's that's something that will be funneled through the process

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Speaker 1: and then you know, be it gives us a better

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Speaker 1: idea of some of the players that are a lot

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Speaker 1: And you know, we have around thirty uh non combine

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Speaker 1: this year even though it is a little different. Um.

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's just everything's unprecedented. And as we

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Speaker 1: those gonna run all the way through April, and you know,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's really interesting. They're gonna kind of break

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Speaker 1: So um, you know, we're still gonna get all the height, weight, speed,

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Speaker 1: a really really interesting part of this weird draft process. Jeff,

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Speaker 1: how tough do you think it is to kind of

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Speaker 1: now it's tougher on these scouting departments to really kind

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Speaker 1: those are definitely fun guys. Obviously, Coromla from Notre Dame

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Speaker 1: Washington the best safety in this draft class. Who's gonna

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Speaker 1: to safeties Sweet Sweet or Darius Washington aka Safety one

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Speaker 1: and Divine Diablo da quickly before we move on. I

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Speaker 1: want to hear your thoughts on Divine Diablo as well,

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Speaker 1: because I liked him going into the Senior Bowl. He

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Speaker 1: was one of my players to watch. Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. I think he's probably early Day

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Speaker 1: you know, a linebacker safety, But yeah, he runs well.

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Speaker 1: He's a former wide receiver. That's that's what he was

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Speaker 1: I have more of an early fourth, fifth, sixth somewhere

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Speaker 1: of them. I really like the Travon Merrick to Jesse

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Speaker 1: Bates um comparison, because you're talking about guy's tall, linear,

427
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Speaker 1: a little a little leaner, than you want, and that'll

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Speaker 1: show in the run game. But guys that are proven

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Speaker 1: ballhawks or you know, they got range, they know how

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Speaker 1: to make plays on the ball, you know they're probably

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Speaker 1: not gonna be first rounders. I mean, maybe Mary gets

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Speaker 1: in the first round, but I think probably more early

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Speaker 1: second you know, kind of like Jesse Bates for for

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Speaker 1: a lot of the same reasons. And then a linebacker

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Speaker 1: Jamie and Davis at a Kentucky who's a Day two

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Speaker 1: player in this draft. He is a carbon copy, a

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Speaker 1: clone of Zach Cunningham, who at a Vanderbilt went to

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Speaker 1: the Texans. I just think they're the exact same player

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Speaker 1: that it was. It just hit me over the head

440
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Speaker 1: watching Davis's tape how how similar they were. So those

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Speaker 1: two really stood out as easy comps for me, Katy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm gonna go a little off the beaten

443
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Speaker 1: path here. When I watched Notre Dame tight end Tommy Trimble,

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Speaker 1: I was kind of getting Joe Daguarra vibes, if you remember,

445
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Speaker 1: from Cincinnati, kind of lined up everywhere. You can line

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Speaker 1: him out at ax you could play him as the

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Speaker 1: h back, and I know you can do it with

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Speaker 1: a lot of tight ends, but just kind of the

449
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Speaker 1: way they moved and the way they played. I kind

450
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Speaker 1: of kind of had that as my my cops that

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Speaker 1: I that I liked. Um, Tommy Trimble and Joseph Daguira,

452
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Speaker 1: I think went went the third round and then he

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Speaker 1: tore his acl um. You know, I think I always

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Speaker 1: get uncomfortable with comps with quarterbacks because there's so much

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Speaker 1: going on at the quarterback level that I'm I'm really

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Speaker 1: really uncomfortable doing that. Um, So I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna stay away from the quarterbacks. One guy, and I

458
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Speaker 1: do not like his tape really at all from this year,

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Speaker 1: I mean, his most recent tape. But I do see

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Speaker 1: the running style. When I watched Cuba Hubbard, I see

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Speaker 1: that kind of upright style that Darren McFadden had. Now

462
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Speaker 1: way different obviously, H McFadden All American first round pick

463
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Speaker 1: Chuba Hoverard. You know, I don't think it's crazy to

464
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Speaker 1: say that he might not get drafted, but I think

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Speaker 1: he probably goes in the fifth, sixth, seventh round something

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Speaker 1: like that. But when I watched it, I typed that

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Speaker 1: on my note right there, like, hey, it's kind of

468
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Speaker 1: like that mcfaddened style. But there's a lot going on

469
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Speaker 1: with Cuba Hoverard. When I watched him, I was not impressed.

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Speaker 1: Jeff oh or Darius Washington honey Badger. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I have to say it over and over again. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my five eighth safety, he's honey badger and that's awesome,

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Speaker 1: And the other one is a bad comp I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: throw that out before I give you the comp just

475
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Speaker 1: because the size is so much different. But ken Darius Tony,

476
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Speaker 1: the Florida wide receiver, his tape reminds me of when

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Speaker 1: I was ten years old or however old, I was

478
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Speaker 1: watching Dante Hall with the Kansas City Chiefs, because it's

479
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Speaker 1: like three people will run into each other or run

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Speaker 1: into him, and somehow he's still going and they're all

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Just the change of direction and the

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Speaker 1: contact balance and how in the hell did he squirt

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Speaker 1: out of that? So Canarius Tony reminds me of every

484
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Speaker 1: great punt returner ever, and he does it while he's

485
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Speaker 1: playing wide receiver or taking handoffs. But yes, Ardarius Washington

486
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Speaker 1: TCU safety, honey badger. Do you I thought you were

487
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Speaker 1: comparing Kadarius Tony to yourself at ten years old? That's

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Speaker 1: what I thought it was. I will tell at ten,

489
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Speaker 1: At ten, I had wiggle. I was ahead athletically at ten.

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Speaker 1: It was at about fifteen that people caught up. Should

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Speaker 1: you also want a rapping career like Kadarius Tony? And

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Speaker 1: I would like it? Yeah, that'd be great. I could

493
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Speaker 1: go country music or rap. I would go either one,

494
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Speaker 1: but I'll take it. I mean, if anybody out there's offering,

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Speaker 1: I need to update my report on Tony to change

496
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Speaker 1: my compform. It's a ten year old Jeff Kavanaugh. Yes,

497
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Speaker 1: I like it. I think that'd be fun. Jeff. I

498
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Speaker 1: think you're you're witty and like quick witted enough to

499
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Speaker 1: be a like a freestyle rapper. Like if you had

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Speaker 1: to sit down and write it, I don't know if

501
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Speaker 1: you could do it, but I think if you're sitting

502
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Speaker 1: there and just rattling it off the top of your head,

503
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Speaker 1: I think you could get it done. I thought so too, Kyle,

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Speaker 1: And then I tried. You tried? How did that? It

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Speaker 1: didn't go? Well? Not? Well, that's unfortunate. Well, I like

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Speaker 1: your comp of Kadarius Tony. I had him with Percy Harvin.

507
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Speaker 1: That was who I had him tabbed as kind of

508
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: once again, another nice returner, somebody that is lightning quick

509
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Speaker 1: and shifty. So plenty of comps to go around, and

510
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Speaker 1: of course that's one of the fun parts about the draft,

511
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Speaker 1: is trying to look for those comps. And we just

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Speaker 1: gave a couple of our favorites. We might do this again, Dane,

513
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Speaker 1: I think we should do this again, maybe when we

514
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Speaker 1: get real close to the draft and kind of go

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Speaker 1: up and talk about it again, kind of our favorites,

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Speaker 1: our hardest since then, and maybe even our comps since

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Speaker 1: then as well. But when we come back here on

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Speaker 1: Chris being back in studio. We've got Dan Brugler, Kevin

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Speaker 1: All right, starting things off with a very quick rapid

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Speaker 1: fire question for you, and I'm going to direct this

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Speaker 1: toward Dane Brugler. Jason Bruitt asked yearly question that has

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one weirdness kind of added to it.

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Speaker 1: But even though there wasn't a traditional combine this year,

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Speaker 1: of course that being snubbed and moved to pro days.

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Speaker 1: Who do you see as some of the snubs and

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Speaker 1: surprises from the list that came out of the quote

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Speaker 1: unquote combine invites Dane. Yeah, there were three hundred and

564
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Speaker 1: twenty three names on the list that they released yesterday.

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Speaker 1: A few of the guys that I thought were it

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Speaker 1: was a little surprising they were left off. Running back

567
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Speaker 1: Spencer Brown from UAB is a good player, UM. A

568
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Speaker 1: couple of wide receivers like Marlon Williams from UCF, Demonte

569
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Speaker 1: Coxey Memphis. A couple of Senior Bowl guys bowling green

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Speaker 1: tight end Quentin Morris, uh Riley Cole the lineback from

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Speaker 1: South Alabama. UM, Terek Thompson, the safety at a San

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Speaker 1: Dieo State. So there were a few. I don't I

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Speaker 1: didn't think any were you know, necessarily egregious. Um. You know,

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Speaker 1: the names I just mentioned are borderline draft picks. So uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, not a not a huge surprise, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I thought it's it's always interesting when you know, you

577
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Speaker 1: get to get the combined list and some of the

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Speaker 1: players that are left off, and you know it's because

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Speaker 1: it just you know, peak behind the curtain. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: the National NFS they put this combine on terms and

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Speaker 1: they they vote on, you know, which players they want

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Speaker 1: to see, and you know, obviously teams have their input.

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Speaker 1: So just it's interesting to see which players got the

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Speaker 1: most votes to be represented at the combine. All right, Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean even in a year like this, to be

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Speaker 1: snooped from the combine. I feel like it's not necessarily

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Speaker 1: it's not as big of a deal. And like you

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Speaker 1: said in the first segment, there's usually thirty or forty

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Speaker 1: guys or in between that mix that end up going

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Speaker 1: and getting drafted that did not end up at the combine,

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Speaker 1: and some a little bit higher than others. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to Jeff already answered this question on Twitter, but I

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Speaker 1: want to answer it on the show as well. But

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Speaker 1: Tom Downey asked what prospect do you not want the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys to draft at ten out of the ones that

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Speaker 1: are realistic for the Cowboys to draft at ten? And

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Speaker 1: he did say, Jeff Cavanall, you're not allowed to say

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Speaker 1: Gregory Rousseau because we knew that would probably be the answer.

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Speaker 1: But Jeff, who else would you not want the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: to select the ten Oh, that is a really good question.

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Speaker 1: Tempted to say Micah Parsons, but I'm going to say

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Speaker 1: any edge rusher. I just don't think there's one eligible

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Speaker 1: to me to be picked at ten, and as zaz

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Speaker 1: Asulari is my top one out of Georgia U, I

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Speaker 1: don't think there's a pass rusher worth the tenth pick.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a good answer because I mean what,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what the other answer would be,

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Speaker 1: because for me at least, I mean I would be fine,

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Speaker 1: even though I wouldn't be my preference. I wouldn't be

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Speaker 1: mad if they drafted Jalen Waddle. Um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be mad if they drafted Kyle Pitts. Wouldn't be mad. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know if they drafted um, you know, any any

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Speaker 1: of these top linebackers later. Yeah, I mean you don't

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Speaker 1: you it might not be your first choice. You might

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Speaker 1: not love it, but I don't. I wouldn't. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like upset about it. So yeah, I think that's

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Speaker 1: a good answer. Any of the edge rushers, maybe Christian Barbore,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a little early for him. Um yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe you know, I like j C. Horn,

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Speaker 1: but even ten feel a little early for him. But

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Speaker 1: I still wouldn't be like, you know, let's be up

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Speaker 1: in arms about it. So yeah, that's I think any

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Speaker 1: any any of the EDG dresser is probably a little

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Speaker 1: too early for them at that tenth pick. And I

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Speaker 1: want to weigh in, like if where they're at a

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Speaker 1: ten if for now and it's maybe a bad assumption.

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Speaker 1: But if you can assume that four quarterbacks are going

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Speaker 1: in front of you at ten, or just for the

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Speaker 1: sake of this discussion, let's say that, then we know

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Speaker 1: that we have six players coming down down your way.

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Speaker 1: If five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, right, stack that

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Speaker 1: board up, and if you really want to focus on defense,

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Speaker 1: then maybe you can move things around. But like, stack

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Speaker 1: that board up, you can easily know who you want

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Speaker 1: and you will have every scenario lined up. You need

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Speaker 1: six picks that you have to deal with right here,

637
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: six players, and you should have one, two, three, four

638
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: scenarios lined up. I think where I think where the

639
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: discussion gets interesting is if you trade back, and that's

640
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: where you start pitting Osilary against jac Horneum or dres

641
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: against you know, maybe it's Derris against yeah against Barmore

642
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: or Vara Tucker or however you want to play it.

643
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: If you're thinking offensive line there, like if there's a

644
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 1: trade back and you're in that seventeen to twenty region,

645
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 1: that's where I think it gets a little more difficult.

646
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: I actually think it's pretty simple to draft someone you

647
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: like at ten when you know that three or four

648
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have been going in front of you. I really

649
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: don't think you can go wrong there if you've done

650
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 1: your work and you have it stacked the way that

651
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: you want to want to go. And I'm saying the problem, well,

652
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying that in terms of picking the guy you want, Yeah,

653
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Speaker 1: I would say the only problem with that is when

654
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Speaker 1: you said stack up your next six guys. I think

655
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Speaker 1: my next six guys play offense, and I think that

656
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: that's not ideal for the Cowboys because to me, the

657
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: best six guys would be some combination of Pena Suel,

658
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: Rashaan Slater, Kyle Pitts, Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddle, Davante Smith.

659
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: So four quarterbacks go. I think the six next best

660
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: players all play offense, well, at least maybe seven and

661
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Speaker 1: eight might be Defensean Farley and certain might be there

662
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: maybe if that, If that's where you have him ranked,

663
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: my easy answer to this question would be Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Please don't ever talk to me about drafting Mac Jones

665
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: at ten, even if he is the only quarterback available

666
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: at that point. You haven't signed Dak Prescott because I feel,

667
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: like Katie, you're talking about all these big scenarios. But

668
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: even with the scenarios that are outside of the draft itself,

669
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Speaker 1: in Dak Prescott's contract negotiations and everything that's going on there.

670
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: If mac Jones is the presumed pick at ten, I

671
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 1: would be lived. I would hate that. It'd be better

672
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 1: than not picking a quarterback if you haven't signed your

673
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: quarterbaw no, no, I don't want it. I don't want

674
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 1: it to drift. I would rather drift. I would kick

675
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: that can down the road before I would I would

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: draft mac Jones. You know that down the road is

677
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: like the next draft having Keaton Slovis and who knows

678
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,280
Speaker 1: what else. We'll figure it out. There's a lot of quarterbacks.

679
00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: Quarterback now I'm just saying, I'm just saying quarterback. I'm

680
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: saying I'm saying we will figure it out rather than

681
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: having mac Jones. Because I don't want mac Jones at

682
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: like really at all. That's my one thing. But I

683
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: could be wrong. I've been wrong before. I'm going out

684
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: on a limb to say that I think mac Jones

685
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: would be a terrible pick of ten. But kind of

686
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: I want to go back to what Kat was just

687
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: saying because it is intriguing to me because last year,

688
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 1: when we were picking at seventeen, there were conversations about

689
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: pretty much anybody, and we thought, of course Ceedee Lamb

690
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: wasn't even a part of that conversation, and he was

691
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: the one that fell. I think this could be a

692
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: whole segment in itself, and we may do this next week.

693
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: But if we do trade down, or if the Cowboys

694
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: do trade down, then what is the what are the scenarios?

695
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: What are those different players, like you said, stacking up

696
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: a horn versus in Ozolari and talking about these different

697
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: prospects that aren't top ten prospects but are still really

698
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: good players. And what would you get in return for

699
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: maybe the second in the third round to kind of

700
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: add onto your draft. I think that might be a

701
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: fun segment we do next week. Overall, Kat, I like

702
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,799
Speaker 1: your heads out in that regard, looking for my page refreshed.

703
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: This is bad radio looking. I do that every day, brother,

704
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: I know it's the worst hours of it. Yeah. Adam

705
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 1: asked what or what prospects get under opponent's skin the

706
00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: best in this draft class because he wants Dallas to

707
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: end up with some dogs, some guys who can trash talk,

708
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 1: bring some personality, honey badger like intensity, who are some

709
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: guys that could potentially bring that. Kelvin Joseph the Kentucky

710
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: corner and Jac Horn South Carolina corner. Those are the

711
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 1: two guys that they don't stop. It's fun because when

712
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: you can see that on tape, you just get to

713
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: imagine what's happening. But those are the two guys by

714
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 1: far that jump out as they're gonna talk to you.

715
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: They're gonna play hard, they're gonna make you mad, and

716
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 1: then they're gonna tell you they made you mad, and

717
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: then they're gonna make a play, and then they're gonna

718
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: tell you they made a play. Yeah, Jac Horn, Kelvin Joseph.

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00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: But the one thing that I'd worried about with Horn

720
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: is how much is a good the other way? How

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00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: much is uh you know for how easy is it

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00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: for receivers to get underneath his skin? Um? You know,

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00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: because he does play so emotional and so aggressive and

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00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: that that is a that is a tough one. Oh.

725
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: I got Gil Brent calling Meoul. Should I answer that

726
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: and put him on? Yes? Yes, no, hold on all rightly? Um,

727
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: you know he's he's a missed opportunity for the show

728
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: right there. I wouldn't do that to Gil, but he

729
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 1: uh not not the Godfather, come on. Um. So with

730
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: JC Horn he plays still emotional. That does worry me

731
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: both ways because yeah, he will get after it, he

732
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 1: will talk. He's not as flashy as his dad, you know,

733
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: Joe Horn, but he's still you know, you could see

734
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 1: that alpha mentality in him. But I also think it

735
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,879
Speaker 1: goes the other way too, where when the receiver might

736
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: might have a few wins against him, it starts to

737
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: go south a little bit. And so, uh, you know

738
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,440
Speaker 1: when you see that in on some of these tapes

739
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: where some of the receivers they'll go right at them

740
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: because they try to get under a skin early, try

741
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,479
Speaker 1: to kind of set the precedent early in that game.

742
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: So it just horns an interesting one when you talk about, uh,

743
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, wearing his emotions on his sleeves and being aggressive.

744
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: I would to point out something that I'm not sure

745
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: we've talked about on this show, Like we all will

746
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: talked about how, hey, Jacy Horns a little grabby down

747
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: the field sometimes right things like that, So is Patrick

748
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: Curtan No one really talks about it. The big difference though,

749
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 1: is Patrick Curtain will grab a guy down the field,

750
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 1: and he'll just put his head down and run back

751
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: like get back into you know, go out to the

752
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: huddle or whatever, like jac Horn. This is why it's

753
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: just he's just so demonstrative every time he'll hold a

754
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: guy and then he'll turn around and go what non

755
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: non non, Nope, and it's like, hey, man, Curtan like

756
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 1: very pro about it. Hey, I'm gonna hold you, I'm

757
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: gonna grab you. I'm gonna grab you. I'm gonna grab

758
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: Just go back to the huddle, normal, normal day at

759
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: the normal day at the office. I do think it's

760
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: interesting because it stands out way more when you watch

761
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: Horn than it does with Certain It maybe Horn's a

762
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: little more grabbier than Certain but like st act like

763
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: Curtan's not getting his hands in there a little bit.

764
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: He just he just has a good way of not

765
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: showing it after the play and a good timing to

766
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: just kind of pull it back at the right time

767
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: and not like play to the refs. It's very fun.

768
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: The differences is that it's Horn's primary coverage technique. Yea, yeah,

769
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: he does it a lot more. I mean it happens

770
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: with a lot of corners, but I more so with

771
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: JC Horn. Every time he gets up he is looking

772
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: for the official, either to make sure he didn't throw

773
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 1: a flag or to complain because the flag wasn't thrown.

774
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: It's just it's amazing when you're watching him every time

775
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: after a play he gets up and meanly finds the

776
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: official for one reason or the other. It's it's just

777
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: fascinating with him, even with like the grabbiness and the

778
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: hands And I've always had trouble kind of deciphering this myself,

779
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: so I'll pass this question onto you guys. But when

780
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 1: does it become a problem whenever there is a corner,

781
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: like like you're you're differing even certain and far or

782
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: excuse me in Horn here, But when does it become

783
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 1: a problem whenever they are handsy downfield? Because it is

784
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: a technique thing and it is something that can be taught, right, Yeah, No, No,

785
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: it's a problem when it's in the super Bowl and

786
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: the rest want to throw a lot of flags. True,

787
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 1: but I'm more of saying I agree, But I'm I'm

788
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: kind of trying to say, when is it more of

789
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: a draft issue? When are you going to knock a

790
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: guy for being handsy as opposed to another guy for

791
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 1: being handsy, because everybody's gonna be physical in some sense

792
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: whenever they're in a cornerback position. But what is the

793
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: threshold of it being a problem and it being fixable?

794
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: From a draft prospect, I think you just have to

795
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: figure out is he doing that because he's incapable of

796
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: covering or is he doing that because it gives him

797
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: an added advantage and he knows he can get away

798
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: with it at the college level. For JC Horn, I'll

799
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: tell you this, at the moment, he's my cornerback number one.

800
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: And that's while acknowledging that he is the graviest corner

801
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: I've ever studied. Because I also see that his athleticism

802
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't require that. So if it becomes a big

803
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: issue and he's getting flagged twice a week in the NFL,

804
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: then you're gonna have to take it away. But I

805
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: also view it as the positive of that's that aggressive mindset,

806
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: that's that you're not you get nothing from me like

807
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm going to be with you every step of

808
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: the way. You're gonna feel me. I'm going to be here.

809
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: So unless it's to cover up for a lack of something,

810
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: I won't kill you yet. It's just a matter of

811
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,439
Speaker 1: in the league. If you start getting flagged every week

812
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: then and we can't take it away from you and

813
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: have you still be good. But I think his athleticism

814
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: is good enough that it's not required. I think the

815
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: other thing too with that is I'd rather give me

816
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the aggressive guy and we'll try to scale it back

817
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: as opposed to the non aggressive guy, the passive player,

818
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: and try to crank it up with him. You know,

819
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: I'd rather give me the JC Horns of the world,

820
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: and we'll manage it and work on it as opposed

821
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: to the opposite. So you know, that's that's another reason

822
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 1: why I think Horns. You know, even though he is

823
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: grabby what five penalties and seven games this year, you

824
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: know you still feel comfortable with him as a first

825
00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: round pick. No. I like that a lot. I mean,

826
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,480
Speaker 1: that's a great answer. If it relies if his athleticism

827
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: relies on the fact of him being hanzy to be successful,

828
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: then that's an issue. And if not, then hey, it's

829
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: a teachable thing and hopefully professional coaches could make an impact.

830
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 1: I like that a lot. That's a good answer from

831
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: both of you, guys. Let's go ahead and take our

832
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: second break. When we come back, there's some offensive lineman

833
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: that we need to talk about on this show, because

834
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: we don't talk a whole lot about the offensive line,

835
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: especially on the interior. We'll talk about it next the

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Speaker 1: hog Miley's up front when we return here on the

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys dot Draft Show final segment to hear

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874
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,000
Speaker 1: with us, Everybody, just take a moment and say a

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00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: quick prayer for Jeff Cavanall's phone batteries, so that way,

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00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: hopefully he stays with us the entirety of this final segment,

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00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 1: but if not, he'll join us next week. I guess

878
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: if if we can't get him back up and go him.

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Speaker 1: But Dane Burglar, Jeff Cavana, Kevin, Katie Turner, I'm Kyle Yeomans,

880
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,919
Speaker 1: and well, Dane, there are some offensive linemen we need

881
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: to talk about. Katie. You put this in our group

882
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: message as well this past week, and I know Jeff

883
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: has been hitting up on these these offensive lineman too,

884
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of offensive line talk and

885
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna go gonna go through that quite a bit

886
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: here over the next couple of moments. But Katie, what

887
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: were some of the topics that you wanted to hit

888
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: whenever it came to the front five and how we

889
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: could potentially be shaped out in this draft class. Well,

890
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's a lot of things to

891
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: talk about with these guys, and anytime Jeff is tweeting

892
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: him out offensive lineman, you know that you're in good

893
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: shape to talk about this. You want to take advantage

894
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 1: of Jeff because generally Jeff didn't like to talk about

895
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 1: offensive lineman with me. So I liked the Jeff sitting

896
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: out so well, look, there was a time where I

897
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: didn't need to worry about it on the Cowboys, and

898
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: so I grew to not care about watching offensive lineman

899
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: because you didn't need them. And now it might be

900
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: time to turn that page. So I have to do

901
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: the annoying work of watching offensive line. Now we've talked

902
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: so much about Pinney Sewell and Rashawn Slater. I don't

903
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 1: want to spend a tole lot of time on those

904
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 1: guys today, but I think there is a conversation to

905
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: be had about what happens after that, and day I'll

906
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 1: go to you dry saw as I think a lot

907
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: of people's offensive tackle three. You start to get Vera

908
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 1: Tucker from USC in there, Oklahoma State's Tevin Jenkins, and

909
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,719
Speaker 1: there's lots of guys Eikenberg, if you want to talk

910
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: about him, there's tons of guys. I start to think,

911
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: you know the Cowboys success, I do know. I feel

912
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: like I know how the Joneses operate a lot. I

913
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 1: feel like they feel comfortable taking first round off. It's

914
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: a lineman, and I do think that's in play if

915
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: they traded back. And I don't know if that's the

916
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: right thing to do, but if there was a trade back,

917
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 1: I still think offensive lineman would be in play. But

918
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: the other thing that I've been thinking about is if

919
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: you're sitting there at forty four and you're trading up

920
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: into the back of the first round, or you're trading

921
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: up into the top of the second round, and it

922
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Speaker 1: was for a player, who would it be? And I

923
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,759
Speaker 1: know you can look the names are limitless, But for me,

924
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 1: I start to think about, do they even know that

925
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: they needed offensive tackle? The answer is probably yes, but

926
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: they might need a guard just the same way they

927
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: need a tackle, And I think those are questions they're

928
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: gonna be balancing. And the easy answer is find a

929
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: guy who can play both. Yeah, And that's obviously easier

930
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 1: said than done, but you know, it's if you're gonna

931
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: find one. I think this is a class to do it.

932
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: There's this week on the Athletic I posted my top

933
00:49:56,239 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: twelve offensive tackles, top ten guards, top eight centers, um.

934
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of future NFL starters in there,

935
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: a lot of them, and uh several of them do

936
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: have the position flexibility that you're looking for, whether it

937
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 1: be tackle, guard, guard, center. Um. So you know this

938
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: this draft is. I don't think we talk enough about

939
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: the offensive line and how uh strong of a group

940
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: it is. You know, it's it's it's I don't think

941
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: it's up there with you know, necessarily wide receiver or um,

942
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: you know, even even Ed Dresser I think is up there.

943
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: Corner is up there. But the offensive line is it's

944
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: a really strong group. And you could pull Coles in

945
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, Christian Derris saw it bugs the

946
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 1: heck out of me. How he just doesn't he plays

947
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: for like ninety percent of the play and then he's good,

948
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, like just just finish, man, come on, give

949
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 1: me give me a killer instinct here. Um. You know,

950
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:51,600
Speaker 1: like that drives me nuts. But that's why that's why

951
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I put Tevin Jenkins ahead of Derrissaw on mine because

952
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: I think that he plays harder, like he wants to

953
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: finish you. He plays with that mentality. And Derrissaw plays like,

954
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, this is easy. You know, he gets the

955
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: job done, he does his job, and he's just kind

956
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 1: of like cool. And Jenkins is like, I want to

957
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: kill you, yeah, and I'm not no no arguments for

958
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: me on that. They three and four are very close

959
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: from me. I went Derris saw Jenkins, but if if

960
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: you flip those no issue with that at all. Jenkins

961
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: is so uniquely powerful, um, and he does have that

962
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 1: killer instinct that you want to see more from from

963
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Derris Saw. Jenkins a little short armed, and that worries

964
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 1: me a little bit. UM. But I do think both

965
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: of these guys, I don't see why either of these

966
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: guys wouldn't be able to move inside to guard if

967
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: you needed him too. So you know we're talking about

968
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: a trade back situation from from ten. You know, maybe

969
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: either of those two guys are on the radar um

970
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: and if they wait until day two to address the position,

971
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,640
Speaker 1: I think there's there's gonna be options. Dylan Radins from

972
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: North Dakota State Deante Smith, East Carolina. Um, you know

973
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: guys with tackle and guard experience, who you know your

974
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: your football team is going to be better if you

975
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 1: draft these guys. Your offensive line depth is going to

976
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:05,359
Speaker 1: be better. And it's just it's it's going to help

977
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: your entire offense. So it might not be the sexiest pick,

978
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 1: but I think it would make sense for this team.

979
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: Do you think it would be easier to address the

980
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: offensive line issues in Day two than it would be

981
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: to add safety or a corner or somebody on the

982
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the football if you didn't

983
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: go offensive tackle at ten? Dane, riddle me this, tell

984
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 1: me if you think I'm too early on this. But

985
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: you talk about having him play both or having the

986
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: ability to. What if you took Alex Leatherwood in the

987
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 1: second round, Alabama's left tackle that I think some are

988
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: going to view him as a guard and maybe he

989
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: could do both. Is that too early for Leatherwood? Yeah?

990
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: I think that's that's later what they picked forty four.

991
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: I mean to me, that's exact right right where Leatherwood

992
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: should be drafted, you know, somewhere between thirty five and fifty,

993
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think he's in that range. Personally, I

994
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: grat him as a guard. He's just he's not the

995
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: most blusive guy. He's got a little bit of stiffness

996
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: in his lower body, and so I think that he's

997
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Speaker 1: going to be better inside a guard. He played it

998
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 1: what as a sophomore before he moved back to left

999
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: tackle as a junior and senior, so we do have

1000
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 1: some tape of him at guard. But yeah, I think

1001
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,960
Speaker 1: he wants to be a tackle, and so I think

1002
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: he's shown enough that you feel okay with him if

1003
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: you want to keep him outside. But again, I think

1004
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: he's better inside. And again that's why we're talking about

1005
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 1: a second round pick and not a first round pick

1006
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,879
Speaker 1: with some of his issues. But in the second round, yeah,

1007
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: I think you feel good about Alex Leatherwood. And the

1008
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: way they operate is like free agency clean up holes

1009
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: for the draft. So do they bring Cam Irving back?

1010
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,399
Speaker 1: Do they bring Joe Looney back? Do they add any

1011
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: depth that you know, guard or tackle to make make

1012
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 1: you go okay? Now, we just need to focus on tackle,

1013
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: and if you're doing that, you're just folks on tackle.

1014
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: That's where your names like Leam Eickenberg of Notre Dame

1015
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: come into play. Maybe on day two, maybe Samuel Cosmi

1016
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: from Texas, maybe that comes into play, or if you

1017
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: need a guard. I mean I mentioned him earlier. He's

1018
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,439
Speaker 1: my guy, and he may not fit what they want

1019
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: to do on offense. They might want to play a

1020
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,160
Speaker 1: little faster um. But man, I am a big, big

1021
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: fan of Deontay Brown. I know I mentioned earlier, and

1022
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 1: maybe you can get him on Maybe you can get

1023
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: him at seventy five in round three. You know the

1024
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: other guy, it's a very interesting name if you need

1025
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: it interior offensive line help. And who knows how far

1026
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,360
Speaker 1: he'll drop is Landed Dickerson of Alabama. After the ACL

1027
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: they'll knock him a little bit, but I don't think

1028
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna drop him too far. So maybe there's a

1029
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,560
Speaker 1: little day two value, maybe a guy who sides a

1030
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,799
Speaker 1: little bit just because he might be a little late

1031
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: to the party. You know, maybe he's ready to start

1032
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: training camp. He should be at least pretty close to

1033
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 1: that is that's a great name because you know, we

1034
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: know this team in the second round, they're not they're

1035
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 1: not scared to take an injury guy or a character guy.

1036
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 1: And Landard Dickerson, that's that's that's a great point. I

1037
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,439
Speaker 1: mean he would be if he fell at a forty four.

1038
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: Scoop him up. I mean, this, this guy. The injury

1039
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: history is long, extensive and worrisome, but he's also an

1040
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: easy first round talent. I actually like him better at guard,

1041
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 1: even though he played almost primarily center at Alabama, but

1042
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: he could play both. He brings that culture that you

1043
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:26,880
Speaker 1: want his football characters outstanding on the field outstanding. Um,

1044
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: it's just you worry about him staying on the field,

1045
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: and you know, the greatest predictor of future injury is

1046
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: past injury, and he has you know, more than enough

1047
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: of that. So but if he's gonna be there a

1048
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: forty four, it might be worth the risk. Dane. You

1049
00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 1: say all of these great things about about him and

1050
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 1: about his character and his on the field talent and everything,

1051
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: and then you say the injury history and how it's

1052
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: extensive and now it's a predictor, and then like I'm

1053
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: all out again on him. I mean all I'm already

1054
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: out because I don't want the same offensive line trouble

1055
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys had this past year, because that's exactly

1056
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: what it was. It was a lot of Bama evolving door.

1057
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 1: A lot of Bama hate out of you opens today.

1058
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm just no Jones, no Landon Dicker. Where did they

1059
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:09,399
Speaker 1: do to you? That's true? Yeah, I don't know. Maybe

1060
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 1: it is just Alabama. I just I also hate DeVante Smithton. No,

1061
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I don't hate you. Oh No, Kyle, No, No,

1062
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: he's really good. No, he's really good. I promise, I promise, Kyle,

1063
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: real quick, real quick. I got a question for you then,

1064
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: because if you don't want at the injury history bothers

1065
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: you there, does round four Walker a little from Stanford

1066
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: do anything for you? Yes, because it's less. I mean

1067
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: what would we already have had four picks before that,

1068
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: a first round pick, a second round pick, and potentially

1069
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,399
Speaker 1: two third round picks, So he'd be your fifth pick

1070
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: in the draft. I would take that. I would take

1071
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:44,319
Speaker 1: Walker a little at that point. Yeah. I think he'd

1072
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: be a steal at that point too. Yeah. He's he's he.

1073
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: He had a missed opportunity by not playing at the

1074
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He had his invite, he declined it. I

1075
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 1: mean that's a big missed opportunity for him. Um, we

1076
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 1: just haven't seen him on the fuel. No, you know,

1077
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: almost two years, so you know, he's a really talented player.

1078
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,439
Speaker 1: It's just tough he would have qualified for that first

1079
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: segment when we went over guys that are just tough

1080
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: to figure out, and with him, it's just because the

1081
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: lack of sample size and just haven't seen him in

1082
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: a while. And just to be clear on Dickerson specifically,

1083
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: I still have him as a as a top five

1084
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: lineman or wait no, he is seventh on my list

1085
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: at the moment in terms of interior offensive lineman. He's

1086
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: seventh at the point. So I still think very highly

1087
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 1: of him, and I think he's a He's an incredible

1088
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: player and an incredible leader. You saw that just from

1089
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: the SEC Championship game and the reaction that he had

1090
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: and then of course whenever he came back in and

1091
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: took the final neel down of the Natty. I mean, overall,

1092
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: he's he's he was the heart and soul of that offense.

1093
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: But I want to go back to a question, or

1094
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: not even a question, but something that Bucky Brooks said

1095
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: on Tuesday show, and he said, if you're going to

1096
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: be in a position that the Cowboys are in and

1097
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: you want to get an offensive tackle, go get him

1098
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: at ten. Don't don't wait and go get a Duke,

1099
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: Go get a Slater, Go get a deisol or even

1100
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: if Sools somehow miraculously fell, I mean it happens every year.

1101
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 1: If he somehow fell, get one of these top guys

1102
00:58:14,800 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: at tackle, and then worry about the rest of your

1103
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: team later on. Do you agree with this standpoint from

1104
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: an overall look of the Cowboys, because I mean, have

1105
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: that kind of my rebuttal to that would be, well,

1106
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you say the same thing about corner? You know,

1107
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: why why would it? Why wouldn't you say the same

1108
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: thing about well, you know, go get you know you

1109
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: the Cowboys may have a chance to draft the best

1110
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: corner in this in this class. You know, why wouldn't

1111
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: you say that also about corner instead of, you know,

1112
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: waiting to see what's available for you in the second round. So,

1113
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't necessarily disagree with it. I just

1114
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: think you could say that about several positions for this

1115
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: team and for this class. Dane Slater, Rashawn Slater and

1116
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: Greg Newsome or Patrick Certan and Alex Sletherwood, U Slater

1117
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: and Newsome Well Newsom make forty four. No. I mean,

1118
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: he's he's going in the first round. The only the

1119
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: only thing you worry about Newsome is yeah, again, a

1120
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: guy that's missed at least three games each year. Um,

1121
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: and so he's got a very lean, wiry frame. Um.

1122
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: His him not holding up would be the only reason

1123
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: he isn't going the first round in my opinion, just

1124
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: a really I comped in the Kyle Fuller. I think

1125
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: he's a top four corner in this draft. It just

1126
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: comes down to, you know, do you trust him to

1127
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: stay out there? And if you do, I think he's

1128
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: gonna go in the first round. Okay, Slater and Newsome

1129
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: or Sir Tannon Jenkins said again, now, what was it?

1130
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: Slater and Newsome or Sir Tan and Tevin Jenkins? Tevin

1131
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: Jenkins at forty four would be amazing, that really nice. Yeah,

1132
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 1: he might have held up a convenience. If you got

1133
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 1: something something, it would be a ton of thing. He's

1134
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 1: still still a huge Yeah. I would still go with

1135
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: the Northwestern route, just because I think I would too.

1136
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm that high on Newsome, but that definitely makes you

1137
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: think more. I guess Jenkins is really good and obviously

1138
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,480
Speaker 1: Curtains a really good player. So that I mean, if

1139
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 1: if if you're choosing between those two scenarios, the draft's

1140
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: working out okay for you, I think he would be

1141
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: happy with either one of those. I would be bumped

1142
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: about either one of those if you're the Cowboys, because

1143
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,760
Speaker 1: you're fixing your offensive line or at least adding some

1144
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: depth and then adding some potentials there and then you're

1145
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: turning around, then you got yourself a starter on defense

1146
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: in each of those realms at cornerback. But we're running

1147
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: out of time. That's gonna do it for us here

1148
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 1: on the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Be sure

1149
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: to follow all of these guys on Twitter. They have

1150
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,479
Speaker 1: great work throughout the week DAYE on the Athletic of course,

1151
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: Katie and Jeff in the local radio markets as well,

1152
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 1: and continue to do fantastic work. But until then, until

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Speaker 1: next Thursday, ten am Central Time, We'll see you next

1154
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: time for Dan Burglar, Kevin, kat Turner, for Jeff Kavanaugh,

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01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 1: Chris Bean Back in studio, I'm Kyle Yeoman. Thanks for

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01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,720
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