Speaker 1: This is How Men Think with brooks Like and Gavin
Speaker 1: to Grab and I heard radio podcasts. Welcome to another
Speaker 1: episode of How Men Think. My name is brooks Like
Speaker 1: and I'm super excited. I always say that every show,
Speaker 1: but I'm super excited about this one. I'm really excited
Speaker 1: about this one for two reasons. One, we have a
Speaker 1: wonderful co host who will get to in a second.
Speaker 1: And I love having co hosts on who are also
Speaker 1: hosts because I actually just get to learn from them,
Speaker 1: and it's great to have great to have people that
Speaker 1: actually have skills there, whereas Gavin has no idea what
Speaker 1: we ever do on this show. And then too, we
Speaker 1: are diving into your guys thoughts. You have sent us
Speaker 1: emails and questions. These are the top things that people
Speaker 1: are thinking the most about right now, and we are
Speaker 1: going to get into all of these questions and thoughts
Speaker 1: and we are going to give you the male perspective
Speaker 1: on these. So joining me today. He's best known as
Speaker 1: the host of NBC's four time Emmy Award nominated hit
Speaker 1: competition series American Inja Warrior, which I have never been on,
Speaker 1: but I'm dying to go on. And so he's gonna
Speaker 1: invite me on this show. Welcome to the show, Mr
Speaker 1: Matt Eisman. How are you doing, Buddy Brooks. I'm good
Speaker 1: to be. I'm super excited too. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you only said you were excited, I would have been.
Speaker 1: I would have known that doesn't mean anything. You need
Speaker 1: to be super excited every if I if I listened
Speaker 1: to like any show, if I go back and listen
Speaker 1: to any show, it's like, I'm super excited for the show.
Speaker 1: You find your Yeah, you say that a lot. People
Speaker 1: always pointed out though. That's the wonderful thing is the
Speaker 1: people listening love to point out the things we do right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's just honest. It's it's like going I used to
Speaker 1: go back and review game tape and you'd see like
Speaker 1: patterns and tendencies. Now when I go back and I
Speaker 1: listened to podcasts and like, oh, I say that a lot. Oh,
Speaker 1: I say that a lot. It's because we do one
Speaker 1: podcast a week and I kind of forget about it,
Speaker 1: get to the next show, and then it's like, I
Speaker 1: haven't done a podcast in a week. I'm super excited.
Speaker 1: You are super excited. It's genuine. Also, Buddy, um, your
Speaker 1: boy bar has been on the show, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have you. Yeah, he's actually hosting Miss USA, uh coming up.
Speaker 1: He's out in Graceland. Yeah, he's he's doing it out
Speaker 1: there in uh In, in Memphis. So he's busy out
Speaker 1: there and I'm here. But I'm telling you how men
Speaker 1: think right now? This This is why we're here, buddy,
Speaker 1: that's what we're here for. Um. Also a question for you,
Speaker 1: because you have done everything in TV, how did you
Speaker 1: pivot from having a medical degree to I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: do TV. Ken Jong and I are the two. We're
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. I have no we certainly
Speaker 1: wasn't planned. I mean I was so, I'm a doctor.
Speaker 1: I went to medical school, I was practicing medicine, and
Speaker 1: then honestly, it came down to I realized my heart
Speaker 1: wasn't in medicine. And it's not a job. It's a calling.
Speaker 1: It's not a job that you just punched the punch
Speaker 1: the clock and do. So I decided I gotta take
Speaker 1: a break. I have to figure out what's going on
Speaker 1: because I'm not helping my patients, I'm not helping myself.
Speaker 1: I've done stand up a couple of times in med school,
Speaker 1: and I thought, all right, I could go be a
Speaker 1: scheme bum, I could go travel the world or whatever.
Speaker 1: And I thought, no, I'm gonna go to l A
Speaker 1: do comedy for a year, grow up, go back be
Speaker 1: a doctor and being a responsible human being. And instead,
Speaker 1: twenty years later around here in l A like live
Speaker 1: in the Green, How did that? I love? I love
Speaker 1: that for so many reasons. One, you bet on yourself
Speaker 1: and you went and you made it happen. I love
Speaker 1: That's what I always encourage people, bet on yourself. Um,
Speaker 1: but too was everybody in your world be like you're crazy, Matt.
Speaker 1: You crazy? You have you have a medical degree, you're
Speaker 1: a doctor. You're going out to l A to do
Speaker 1: stand up my uh my friends were all like, no,
Speaker 1: you're at least the seventeenth funniest one of us, Matt.
Speaker 1: This makes total sense that you're gonna go be a comedian. Honestly.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing was I think my friends probably thought
Speaker 1: you'll outgrow this. The hardest part. My dad's a doc.
Speaker 1: He's uh, he's a professor medicine, world renowned physician. He
Speaker 1: used a professor at the University of Colorado. Right was
Speaker 1: doing my residency and that That was the hardest part
Speaker 1: was telling him because I thought I thought my dad
Speaker 1: was just gonna be devastating, just disappointed, heartbroken, right or
Speaker 1: think you're nuts, you're not gonna go. But when I
Speaker 1: told him, I was leaving, and then I wanted to
Speaker 1: try comedy. First words, he said, where life is short,
Speaker 1: do what makes you happy, and it's it was. It
Speaker 1: was a weight was lifted, but it's it's been. The
Speaker 1: best advice I got is is to go after it.
Speaker 1: And what you said is something I always say too,
Speaker 1: is bet on yourself, because you could bet on a
Speaker 1: career like health care is always going to be stable.
Speaker 1: You could bet on you know, living, working in the
Speaker 1: family business, whatever it is, or bet on your passion,
Speaker 1: bet on yourself. And I always felt like, if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna if I'm gonna take a swing, you gotta you
Speaker 1: gotta go for it. And and I love that. I
Speaker 1: think betting on yourself is the way it motivates you.
Speaker 1: And it's also it's the way you put your head
Speaker 1: on the pillow at night and go, all right, I'm
Speaker 1: doing I'm doing what I'm passionate about. So how did you?
Speaker 1: I love it, buddy, and I hope our listeners like
Speaker 1: really received that when they hear that UM question for you? Then,
Speaker 1: how did you get from stand up comedy to like,
Speaker 1: then you won the Apprentice and now you host, you
Speaker 1: host American Ninja Warrior, American Ninja Warrior June. You're UM
Speaker 1: and you have an extensive like TV career? How did
Speaker 1: you pivot from comedy into that? So I think you
Speaker 1: know another. Another thing I say is say yes to everything,
Speaker 1: and my my approach has been UM. There are so
Speaker 1: many talented people in any industry, but particularly in entertainment.
Speaker 1: And if you're sitting on your ass thinking I'm so talented,
Speaker 1: people are gonna find me. They're not gonna come knocking
Speaker 1: because there are other people beating the doors down. And
Speaker 1: the thing I found was I initially came out. I
Speaker 1: thought he was gonna do stand up comedy, that I
Speaker 1: was doing some sketch comedy and thought I'd be a
Speaker 1: sitcom actor. But somebody came in and said, hey, we
Speaker 1: want to submit you to host this show. And this
Speaker 1: was back in two thousand four, and I said yes.
Speaker 1: And that show only lasted a season, but it led
Speaker 1: to UH it was a game show, and it led
Speaker 1: to a home makeover show, and it led to Sports
Speaker 1: Supersports comedy show, and that led to Ninja. Whereas that
Speaker 1: first hosting job I got led to the job I
Speaker 1: have now and and you know that got me on
Speaker 1: Celebrity Apprentice, and and so many things have come about
Speaker 1: from from saying yes, and and and and being being
Speaker 1: the kind of person people want to work with, and
Speaker 1: and that is showing up working your ass off, being
Speaker 1: professional when things don't work out, saying hey, I appreciate
Speaker 1: the opportunity, or if it doesn't work out right, then
Speaker 1: realize life is a marathon. So something might not work
Speaker 1: out in the short term, but it could come to
Speaker 1: you know, six months later, five years later, ten years later,
Speaker 1: that can come back. And so I think for me,
Speaker 1: I've always tried to say every opportunity, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go in there and and hope that they would want
Speaker 1: to work with me again, because it's just been a gift.
Speaker 1: It's been awesome, but it's gonna go away, and I
Speaker 1: need to figure out how do I land that next show.
Speaker 1: I hope it doesn't go away for a long time.
Speaker 1: But it's that idea of you're always you're always kind
Speaker 1: of looking for the next thing, And I think the
Speaker 1: way to do it is to to try to find
Speaker 1: those people and that you really connect with because I
Speaker 1: think there's there really is a power in networking of
Speaker 1: of connecting with people and building relationships. Uh that can
Speaker 1: that can manifest in ways you don't even understand, but
Speaker 1: I think it's and and it's helping people out to
Speaker 1: like doing a favor for somebody and you know, not
Speaker 1: expecting anything, but but building that goodwill because I I
Speaker 1: see it. I've seen it. I've been out here for
Speaker 1: over twenty years now, and I've seen how those little
Speaker 1: kindnesses and those little efforts and those things overall, it
Speaker 1: just builds that momentum that you need to survive to
Speaker 1: any business, but particularly one that's as insane. Is this
Speaker 1: one right? And it's it's the same, it's no different
Speaker 1: in professional sports. Um intangibles. As you kept speaking, I
Speaker 1: kept thinking about intangibles. Is this person a good person
Speaker 1: in the locker room? Are they a good person to
Speaker 1: every single person in the building, the security staff, the
Speaker 1: dorm and everybody, the trainers, the medical staff, the intangibles?
Speaker 1: Are you respected? Do you show up? Are you on time?
Speaker 1: Are you played? Are you courteous? Just like do you
Speaker 1: invest in other people? Do you ask people about their day,
Speaker 1: their life, their family, and all of those intangibles come back.
Speaker 1: Like you said, maybe it's not next year, maybe it's
Speaker 1: five years from now, maybe it's ten years. Maybe it doesn't.
Speaker 1: But you invested in people, and it's not what you know,
Speaker 1: it's who you know. And so many times I've actually
Speaker 1: got it. I've got opportunities from people from my playing life,
Speaker 1: from people I met ten years ago because I remember you,
Speaker 1: remember you. We had a really good connection. I just
Speaker 1: loved how you respected me and talked with me. And
Speaker 1: just like, things come back around, and uh, I think
Speaker 1: it's a you don't do it for that. You invest
Speaker 1: in people to be a good person and to discover
Speaker 1: their journeys. But be it does come back around, it's
Speaker 1: gonna find you again at some point. I've seen it
Speaker 1: in l a. I've seen it in friends. I've seen
Speaker 1: it in their lives. They've been on different projects and
Speaker 1: I see the same people on the different projects. I'm like, Wow,
Speaker 1: you guys all work together. I love each other. Adam
Speaker 1: sand is the prime example of a guy who works
Speaker 1: with his friends again. You see, you know, anytime you
Speaker 1: see one of his movies. It's like the Old Big
Speaker 1: Crossbones where it's like the same people again and again,
Speaker 1: but it's perfect. Someone He's like, these people make me
Speaker 1: my best. Um, they've they've been good to me. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be good in them. And I think when you
Speaker 1: help us. When the other thing is, you also learn
Speaker 1: a lot anytime you any experience you have, if you're
Speaker 1: if you're open, if you're earnest, if you invest in it,
Speaker 1: you learn things that inevitably imprint on you. And I
Speaker 1: think hopefully continue to elevate your game because we're all
Speaker 1: trying to grow. Right. If you're stat that you're you're dead.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's and it's a fun I mean
Speaker 1: entertainment is is it's a ridiculous a ridiculously fun job.
Speaker 1: And the opportunities that we get to do and and
Speaker 1: and and the other thing is I always try to
Speaker 1: appreciate it is to say, like I literally when I
Speaker 1: was in medicine, it's truly life or death. You see
Speaker 1: what really true? Life or death situations are an entertainment.
Speaker 1: We act like it's life and death, but you know
Speaker 1: we're talking about Ninja's or I'm on the shorts and
Speaker 1: those things. And I always try to step back and say,
Speaker 1: particularly growing I grew up in Colorado, it was always
Speaker 1: sports in school. Entertainment was never on the radar. But
Speaker 1: I loved I loved movies. I loved entertainment. And now
Speaker 1: I'm out here, and you know, I get to work
Speaker 1: at Universal Studios or you get to meet some of
Speaker 1: these people, and to always say I have an appreciation
Speaker 1: for it. And and to to also say I choose
Speaker 1: a career with a lot of risk and a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of issues, but you get some of
Speaker 1: these opportunities and never take those for granted. And and
Speaker 1: and just sit back. And the other thing I would
Speaker 1: love to do is to talk to my friends like
Speaker 1: I grew up with, and and to just remind yourself, man, like,
Speaker 1: remember where you came from. Remember be grateful. I guess
Speaker 1: is you know, have gratitude for the stuff you're getting
Speaker 1: to do, and not worry about what you're not getting
Speaker 1: or what you're missing, but then be grateful for you
Speaker 1: do have, which which is a challenge, particularly during the
Speaker 1: pandemic and everything. We're all a little for it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll get into that, because that's very much part of
Speaker 1: the listener questions, But, Um, you're inspiring me because there's
Speaker 1: there's been I never thought i'd want to get into TV.
Speaker 1: I never I wanted to play hockey. It didn't play
Speaker 1: hockey because it was on TV. I played hockey because
Speaker 1: I loved it. But there's been a there's been a
Speaker 1: couple of things that have come my way. Um, And
Speaker 1: I've thought about it, but kind of like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't want to give up a
Speaker 1: day at my lake house for that. I don't want
Speaker 1: to give up a day of like flying or doing
Speaker 1: something fun for that. But you're inspiring me to see
Speaker 1: the fun in it, to see the joy in it,
Speaker 1: see the opportunity in it. Um. And it's something that's
Speaker 1: been kind of a couple of things have landed in
Speaker 1: my inbox that I've I've thought about but ultimately not
Speaker 1: moved towards. I don't know if I was ready for
Speaker 1: it or I don't know if it was the right
Speaker 1: time for it. Um, But you're inspired maybe to give
Speaker 1: another look at it. It's what Yeah, Well I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, look, you you've got a great personality, you
Speaker 1: got a great look. And it's the thing I think
Speaker 1: when you go into it with the idea of there's
Speaker 1: no downside. Right where you go, people like, hey, you
Speaker 1: might look like a jackass or something. Well, look, I'm
Speaker 1: not afraid of embarrassing myself. And I also trust, I
Speaker 1: trust that I will do well enough to to be
Speaker 1: where I can hold my head up high. But when
Speaker 1: you start to when you start to go into it
Speaker 1: and say, hey, man, I could really have fun and
Speaker 1: expand something. And the thing I love about what I've
Speaker 1: created in TV is largely I get to be myself,
Speaker 1: which would really is a blast. Like I go on
Speaker 1: and I'm a naturally enthusiastic guy. I love I love
Speaker 1: meeting people. I love telling stories. Ninja. We got to
Speaker 1: tell these incredible stories that you know, I was an
Speaker 1: athlete growing up, or and and and just love seeing
Speaker 1: people push themselves past it and and when you get
Speaker 1: to when when you get to the secret I think
Speaker 1: to being good in Hollywood is very often figuring out
Speaker 1: how to be yourself and get out of the way
Speaker 1: because we all kind of put these things on. And honestly,
Speaker 1: that's where, like the first ten years of my career
Speaker 1: we're doing is you know, you you try to be
Speaker 1: will Ferrell, or you're trying to be Alex Trebek rest
Speaker 1: in Peace or any of these people, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're like, no, man, I want to
Speaker 1: be Brooks, like I want to be mad Eyes, but
Speaker 1: I want to be this person inside who I am.
Speaker 1: Because the thing you see, particularly when it is person
Speaker 1: when you're hosting, it's people want some authenticity. They want
Speaker 1: to know this is who you are. And I think
Speaker 1: once once you figure that out and you're able to
Speaker 1: deliver that, that's what people respond to. Okay, love it.
Speaker 1: I'll take that advice. Thank you, buddy. One last question
Speaker 1: then we're gonna get into our list. Your thoughts, um
Speaker 1: your favorite give me your absolute favorite thing about being
Speaker 1: on TV and the opportunities that you have said. Look,
Speaker 1: I would love to say Celebrity Apprentice was amazing because
Speaker 1: we got to raise a million dollars for the Arthritis Foundation.
Speaker 1: I have rheumatoid arthritis UH, chronic autoimmune disease that changed
Speaker 1: my life, diagnosed in two thousand two. So to get
Speaker 1: a raise a million dollars and and just as importantly
Speaker 1: to share my story and raise awareness was awesome. If
Speaker 1: I said that was my favorite part, that would make
Speaker 1: me a good person. My favorite part of was that
Speaker 1: I've become friends with Arnold Schwartzeninger. Like I my childhood bedroom,
Speaker 1: I'll be there for Thanksgiving. My parents still live in
Speaker 1: the house I grew up in. My bedroom hasn't changed
Speaker 1: since I graduated from high school. The Predator posters up there.
Speaker 1: I mean ever since ever six I've slept with Schwarzenegger
Speaker 1: in my bedroom. And now I'm friends with this guy.
Speaker 1: We've got the travel globe doing charity events and and
Speaker 1: my buddy, my buddy was just it was just he.
Speaker 1: I was so excited my last birthday anyway, we went
Speaker 1: to Austria together and on my birthday, Arnold brought a
Speaker 1: cake at We're having stogies, and I sent a photo
Speaker 1: to my buddy and he goes. He said, if everything
Speaker 1: went away, if if you had to leave it, you
Speaker 1: had to go whatever you know, jig ditches, do whatever
Speaker 1: you got, you made it. This is like sixteen year
Speaker 1: old that would have been like life is complete. And
Speaker 1: in that moment, I've got a photo. Let me see this.
Speaker 1: This photo Schwarzener hand me to his Christmas party was stallone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like and in this photo I was just like, that's
Speaker 1: it's next to like the photos I got with my parents.
Speaker 1: It's like that photo that that's it. That's why I
Speaker 1: came out here. And so like that moment was really
Speaker 1: one when when those two guys whose movies I can
Speaker 1: still quote to this day, when I got to meet
Speaker 1: them and like, you know, not be peers, but but
Speaker 1: but like work with him and hang out with him,
Speaker 1: it was that was amazing, And that's certainly made at
Speaker 1: this point, I'm playing with how some money in this career.
Speaker 1: I I once met Arnold but couldn't see me. You
Speaker 1: get it, you get it. My my one of my
Speaker 1: best buddies. That's his favorite line from that Get to
Speaker 1: the Chopper obviously, but then he couldn't see me. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: So okay, buddy, I love it. It's so good, so good. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's get to some of these. Let's do it. I
Speaker 1: want your input on these, so our listeners, our listeners
Speaker 1: are pouring out to us. A lot of people are struggling,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are uncertain with the future. Um
Speaker 1: COVID obviously is taking a massive impact from people's professional
Speaker 1: and personal lives. So they've reached out to you and
Speaker 1: I Matt, and we're going to do our best to
Speaker 1: try and help people. Let's do it. Um, here's the
Speaker 1: first one from our community. Where will I end up
Speaker 1: after college? Where do you think somebody in college right now,
Speaker 1: where are they going to end up? What's the world
Speaker 1: look like for somebody coming out of college? Why? I
Speaker 1: I think, Look, I have no idea. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what the world's gonna look like. I mean, we
Speaker 1: just heard news today of a vaccine that might be
Speaker 1: effect if it really is, that could really change the
Speaker 1: face of COVID. But I think this pandemic has been
Speaker 1: an extreme example of the reality that we don't know
Speaker 1: the future really, it's it's so unpredictable. Um. And we've
Speaker 1: been very fortunate to largely you know, I think back
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, the events nine eleven, uh, this pandemic,
Speaker 1: I I think are just those events. I think Reagan
Speaker 1: being shot, like the Space Shuttle blowing up, those kind
Speaker 1: of landmark events. Um. But but this pandemic and nine
Speaker 1: eleven particularly being ones that I think shifted the world
Speaker 1: moving forward. So I don't know what the world's going
Speaker 1: to be moving forward. But but the reality is, um,
Speaker 1: you if you're in college, you are still at a
Speaker 1: place where you are you are able to mold your future,
Speaker 1: and I think that that was one of the great
Speaker 1: things in college. Here's what I will say. When I
Speaker 1: was in college, I thought I knew what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do for the rest of my life. I thought
Speaker 1: I was going to become a doctor. I thought I
Speaker 1: had it all planned out. What I've realized since then
Speaker 1: is I had no idea. So I think there was
Speaker 1: always a lot of pressure though, when you were in
Speaker 1: college to feel like you had life figure it out.
Speaker 1: And I want to just tell people you don't. I
Speaker 1: said it before. Life is a marathon. Don't feel like
Speaker 1: you need to have all the answers. What I think
Speaker 1: you would want to do is to try to to
Speaker 1: try to build up your knowledge base, find something you're
Speaker 1: passionate about, but also be okay saying, you know, whether
Speaker 1: you take a job, whether you travel, whether you whether
Speaker 1: you choose something safe, or whether you choose to take
Speaker 1: that big risk or go to law school, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: to say, this might not be where it goes and
Speaker 1: that's okay. Things could change, and just to say what
Speaker 1: I'm going to do is to continue to search for
Speaker 1: that thing. Hopefully search for that passion that's something that
Speaker 1: really excites you, because again, I don't, I don't work.
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, obviously it's entertainment, so it's not
Speaker 1: that hard. But I love what I do and I'm
Speaker 1: so grateful to have found that. So if you're in college,
Speaker 1: I would say, just try to be okay realizing that
Speaker 1: you may feel all your classmates everyone around you has
Speaker 1: life figured out or has their plans out there. They don't.
Speaker 1: Most of them are just like me, where you thought
Speaker 1: you knew something or you kind of thought, hey, this
Speaker 1: is the right answer, but you're going to experience in
Speaker 1: the next you know, ten years out of college, I
Speaker 1: think is when you really start to grow up and
Speaker 1: find out who you are and just to be okay
Speaker 1: with that and to say that the world is changing,
Speaker 1: but it's really just that this has been a very
Speaker 1: surface realization of life so always changing. So I think,
Speaker 1: just be okay saying you don't have to have it
Speaker 1: figured out, um, but just kind of being able to
Speaker 1: live with that discomfort and to say I'm really going
Speaker 1: to commit to bettering myself, to betting on myself, to
Speaker 1: saying yes opportunities and to finding something you're passionate about.
Speaker 1: I like all of that. I love I love all
Speaker 1: of that. I love that you kept the door open
Speaker 1: for somebody to pivot. Um, because coming out of college
Speaker 1: that you might see your life one way and then
Speaker 1: there they might not be hiring with a degree that
Speaker 1: you have. Now maybe they just the world might be
Speaker 1: there the way, And so keeping the idea that it's
Speaker 1: okay that maybe you still want to do this, but
Speaker 1: also for the time being, I might have to pivot here,
Speaker 1: and actually that pivot, as it was in your life,
Speaker 1: could be the greatest blessing of your life. Um. The
Speaker 1: other thing that I keep in mind, I've I've never
Speaker 1: been to college, so I don't know what it's light
Speaker 1: coming out of college. But I don't want people to
Speaker 1: assume that now that they have a college degree, that
Speaker 1: they're going to have a job that I think the
Speaker 1: world is intensely competitive and even if you come from
Speaker 1: a great school, you are going to have to earn
Speaker 1: that job. Like it was like when I was trying
Speaker 1: to make the NHL, I had to unseed somebody who
Speaker 1: was already there to earn that job. It wasn't just like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been drafted they signed me to professional contract. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play pro. No, there are so many more
Speaker 1: people that don't make pro than do. Even once they
Speaker 1: are drafted and signed, they still never make it because
Speaker 1: they never unseed somebody. So UM would encourage those the
Speaker 1: people finishing up college to think of that too. World's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough. It's even gonna be tougher. Now you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to fight, You're probably gonna have to claw.
Speaker 1: I would also another thing that comes to mind is
Speaker 1: reach out to maybe somebody that um, some contacts that
Speaker 1: you have you know. Yeah, well, going back to networking
Speaker 1: for sure, and taking opportunities to say again, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of people make choices based on paper, like
Speaker 1: I want to do this career, but being okay, saying hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take an internship where I'm gonna you know,
Speaker 1: shadow somebody or really get to learn a career, because again,
Speaker 1: you might think you know what you want to do
Speaker 1: and then you get into it and say this isn't
Speaker 1: lighting my fire. Yeah, okay, great advice. Thanks. Next question,
Speaker 1: if you could, you're gonna be on CNN or Fox
Speaker 1: News or wherever you can answer this one. What does
Speaker 1: the future look like it's a very broad question, but
Speaker 1: let's go with it. Let's see where your mind goes. Well.
Speaker 1: I I think, look, I think our future is great.
Speaker 1: I think we've seen we've withstood worldwide pandemic and largely
Speaker 1: it seems that we are, you know, despite despite case
Speaker 1: numbers going up, it seems fatalities are going down. I
Speaker 1: think as a nation, we've we've been through a tremendous
Speaker 1: amount of growth with civil unrest and kind of an
Speaker 1: awakening and a reckoning on some of the racial past.
Speaker 1: I think, I I I think our future really isn't
Speaker 1: our hands though it's it's still really up to us
Speaker 1: what what we will shape. I think we're seeing this
Speaker 1: evolution to me with social media. Um with this, I
Speaker 1: think there has been a cheapening of kind of the
Speaker 1: national conversation when it happens online and people say things
Speaker 1: online that they wouldn't say face to face to people,
Speaker 1: and I think we we've lost some of that. But
Speaker 1: that's the reality of of of social media right now.
Speaker 1: I think our future is is it's it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a bright future for not just the world, but
Speaker 1: I think particularly for America. I think we're seeing you know,
Speaker 1: despite all the division in politics, it's like this is
Speaker 1: kind of how the nation has been back and forth.
Speaker 1: People say, we've never been so divided. We we had
Speaker 1: a civil war before, we've we've been divided, and I
Speaker 1: think we're What we're seeing here is is a real
Speaker 1: good challenge to democracy and and people feeling more. We
Speaker 1: had more people vote than ever before, which I think
Speaker 1: is a good sign for people feeling involved. Um, I
Speaker 1: think hopefully the news of the vaccine is great because
Speaker 1: I think I think we're never going to go back
Speaker 1: to where we were before COVID. I think there's any
Speaker 1: time we now have a viral outbreak of flu coming in,
Speaker 1: there's going to be fears of COVID two point. Now,
Speaker 1: I think masks are going to be a new part
Speaker 1: of our existence, particularly particularly if you're sick. So I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see some changes. But again we we
Speaker 1: we never underestimate humans ability to adapt to a new
Speaker 1: situation and still thrive. Oh I love that. I love that. Finished.
Speaker 1: So I have no idea what the future is gonna be,
Speaker 1: but I'm still optimistic. So I'm the same way. So
Speaker 1: when I when I think of this question, the first
Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind is, and I speak from experience,
Speaker 1: is that sometimes there there needs to be a disruption,
Speaker 1: an unchosen disruption, in order for better things to come
Speaker 1: into your life. UM. And it's hard, it's a hard
Speaker 1: way to receive this. There's been so much trauma. There's
Speaker 1: been so many deaths, so much hardship, loss of businesses,
Speaker 1: loss of relationships, loss of connection with one another, loss
Speaker 1: of family members, deaths. There's been so much loss in this.
Speaker 1: But I believe that from this I'm always I'm always
Speaker 1: an optimistic guy, and I'm always I always they see
Speaker 1: things as an opportunity. And I believe from this, though
Speaker 1: none of us chose this, this will some way, we
Speaker 1: will find a way to make this the best thing
Speaker 1: that happened to us. UM, my hockey career, this is,
Speaker 1: this is where I draw from the experience. I got
Speaker 1: a phone call one day that said, thirty four years
Speaker 1: of hockey boom is done. Off a cliff right now.
Speaker 1: You are released. My hockey career is done. I never wanted,
Speaker 1: I never chose that. I never I would have probably
Speaker 1: said no, I'll give anything to get it back. But
Speaker 1: that disruption in my life lead me to so many
Speaker 1: new opportunities, so many new friendships, so many new partnerships.
Speaker 1: I'm only doing this podcast, having this conversation with you
Speaker 1: because of that disruption, and it's and I've my my
Speaker 1: eyes have just widened to the entire world, whereas before
Speaker 1: they were stuck inside a hockey rink. And so I
Speaker 1: just hope people can draw something from that where I
Speaker 1: know we're going through tough times. I know people are hurting,
Speaker 1: but tough times don't last. Tough tough people do, and
Speaker 1: so there is some sort of an opportunity. I think
Speaker 1: the future of work has forever changed. I think people
Speaker 1: are really assessing what true happiness is to them, not
Speaker 1: what professional happiness is, what true happiness is. I think
Speaker 1: there's so many good things that are going to come
Speaker 1: from this. I do still think we're in this for
Speaker 1: a little while still hopefully, like you said that, the
Speaker 1: news of the possible vaccine just came out today, Hopefully
Speaker 1: that comes sooner than later. But I'm always always going
Speaker 1: to find an opportunity at something. I think that's I
Speaker 1: think that's a that's a great way of of phrasing
Speaker 1: it is is that idea of right, there's there's nothing
Speaker 1: happens good or bad. But thinking makes it so where
Speaker 1: you really you know, in these times of of challenge,
Speaker 1: that to to to say I will, I will get
Speaker 1: through this. And and you're right, I think when you've
Speaker 1: had a previous experience, For me, I think leaving medicine.
Speaker 1: But but you know, being diagnosus with rheumatory arthritis and
Speaker 1: I had cancer as well. When you go through those
Speaker 1: those health scares and you realize, wow, I'm not invulnerable
Speaker 1: and life, life is precious, I think it it does
Speaker 1: prepare you for these things. And and for you know,
Speaker 1: for people who this is that first kind of shock,
Speaker 1: you know, God, that's very fortunate. But but this is
Speaker 1: what life is, right is We're going to have these
Speaker 1: challenges and this is a particularly big one. But hopefully
Speaker 1: you know, people learn we can thrive through this and
Speaker 1: thrive coming out of it. And it's it's a challenge
Speaker 1: and it really I think we've all been shaken. Uh
Speaker 1: you know, has been right, the most historic year of
Speaker 1: my lifetime, without a doubt. Yeah, Um, okay, next question. Um,
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm gonna preface this with I'm not going
Speaker 1: to ask you if you voted. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: ask you who you voted for, um, anything political in
Speaker 1: regards to you. Just this is the question, how will
Speaker 1: the presidency be different? How will this presidency be different?
Speaker 1: I I don't know. I I think one of the
Speaker 1: things we've seen is communication has shifted. Where you realize
Speaker 1: that the president was always almost once removed, right, we
Speaker 1: would see them speak when they would give the State
Speaker 1: of the Union, or occasionally on UM if they would
Speaker 1: do a press conference, or or or be in the
Speaker 1: the White House. But I think we're seeing now there
Speaker 1: is a much more line of direct communication now with
Speaker 1: social media and almost an expectation of to to hear
Speaker 1: from them more immediately and more frequently. So I think
Speaker 1: for the presidency, I we'll see, we'll see more communication
Speaker 1: UM and I I think that's it's it's I don't know.
Speaker 1: I I think it's I who could have predicted what's
Speaker 1: going on in the past, in the past year. So
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know what the future holds,
Speaker 1: but I think we're I think we've seen people more
Speaker 1: involved with politics, and I am hoping that people will
Speaker 1: also get out of the tribalism of politics and get
Speaker 1: more into the the you know, when life is at
Speaker 1: its best. We don't you don't think of politics because
Speaker 1: everything is going well and obviously we haven't had that
Speaker 1: luxury of late. But I'm hoping that we, you know,
Speaker 1: we as a country can start to move out of
Speaker 1: and go back to two. I think, I think just rediscovering,
Speaker 1: rediscovering our passion and our connection and and and you
Speaker 1: know unity is a country. Yeah, I um so. I
Speaker 1: did a post yesterday on my social media about um
Speaker 1: or two days ago, think about hope for the future. UM.
Speaker 1: I am a Canadian. I have my U S Green card,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a US citizen. I cannot vote. I
Speaker 1: do not have voting rights. I am not and I
Speaker 1: am not and do not identify with a Democratic party
Speaker 1: or a Republican party. UM. I can only bear witness
Speaker 1: to what goes on in this nation that I've lived
Speaker 1: in now over half my life. I've lived in the
Speaker 1: US nineteen years. I've lived in Canada for eighteen years,
Speaker 1: so I've spent more time in the US. But I
Speaker 1: do not have voting rights. And I did a post
Speaker 1: about leadership, about the change in leadership, um, but merely
Speaker 1: about leadership and how my my hope for leadership. Any leader,
Speaker 1: whether it's of a nation, a company, a team, a family,
Speaker 1: that their number one priority. My my belief is that
Speaker 1: a leader's number one priority is to unite people under
Speaker 1: a common goal. You have very different people. You have
Speaker 1: a group, your your people, or the tribe that you lead,
Speaker 1: whether it's a nation, whether it's company, a team, family,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. Community. You have very different people
Speaker 1: in a very diverse group of people, and your job
Speaker 1: as the leader is to unite all of those people
Speaker 1: under a common goal and a common goal of and
Speaker 1: I voiced on a common goal of unity and of love.
Speaker 1: And that's what I hoped for for this leadership. UM.
Speaker 1: That being said, I did not choose them. This is
Speaker 1: not my elective president. I hope to one day be
Speaker 1: able to vote. But that's just what I hope for
Speaker 1: from this president. UM. Also, I hope UM that we
Speaker 1: get back to a total state of transparency. I think
Speaker 1: transparency would be wonderful, UM, just to receive that, to
Speaker 1: to know where we are and COVID testing, like when
Speaker 1: when are we looking at like like we could? I
Speaker 1: think humans can take bad news as well as they
Speaker 1: can take good news. We can take both as long
Speaker 1: as it's honest I've received so much bad news in
Speaker 1: my life, but when it's delivered honestly, I'm okay. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for being honest. It's good to know. So
Speaker 1: whether it's like if they could tell us, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we're probably not going to have a vaccine until June,
Speaker 1: like that's that's just being transparent. That's what it looks
Speaker 1: like right now, best case scenarigent. Okay, Like that's tough news,
Speaker 1: but at least like we know. Um so I hope
Speaker 1: for some transparency as well with the new leadership. It's
Speaker 1: funny I think as you were talking about sports and leadership,
Speaker 1: I was just having a conversation with my mind of
Speaker 1: lifelong friends. We were just talking about coaches and you know,
Speaker 1: having to me my high school coaches just in terms
Speaker 1: of molding you as a person. And and but I
Speaker 1: always say the lessons of sport, of the lessons of life,
Speaker 1: how to lose, how to handle bad news, how to
Speaker 1: be how to have feedback, how to work with teammates,
Speaker 1: how to give yourself up for the greater good of
Speaker 1: the whole. And and I just we were just talking
Speaker 1: about how, you know, the old school Bill Belichick or uh,
Speaker 1: Nick Saban, these kind of these old school real dictator types.
Speaker 1: It seems to be kind of going the way now
Speaker 1: of more people who are, you know, Pete Carroll or
Speaker 1: Dable Sweeney. You seem to be a little more I'm
Speaker 1: going to motivate you, I am going to try to
Speaker 1: unite you. And I think that's kind of what I
Speaker 1: think in politics, we're seeing some of that. I think
Speaker 1: politics is a very challenging field where unfortunately it does
Speaker 1: often become very us versus them. And I think the
Speaker 1: reality is when you walk around the streets, you see
Speaker 1: it is we. It's we the people right when, and
Speaker 1: so often on social media, we we we get more
Speaker 1: focused on those those differences instead of the great uh
Speaker 1: commonalities that we have. Yeah, And I think one thing
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing right now, and I actually challenged my
Speaker 1: my community yesterday with this, I'm seeing a lot of
Speaker 1: confirmation bias going on. So people that voted for Biden
Speaker 1: are only talking to people that voted for Biden, and
Speaker 1: Trump supporters are only like talking to Trump support There's
Speaker 1: no like, hey, I understand your president your choice didn't
Speaker 1: get elected, like how are you feeling, or like there's
Speaker 1: there's none of that going on. It's like it's like
Speaker 1: uh red and the Blue team. It's like we're completely separated.
Speaker 1: And I encourage people to have conversations with people who
Speaker 1: don't think, look dressed, vote or act like them. You
Speaker 1: know what books I think it is going on, it's
Speaker 1: just not happening on social media. And unfortunately, so often
Speaker 1: if we're on social media, you only see the yelling,
Speaker 1: and you often see people I think where it is
Speaker 1: very much an echo chamber even and how you follow
Speaker 1: you may obviously, you know, kind of crop out opposing views.
Speaker 1: But when I was out, you know, when I when
Speaker 1: I'm out and I hear people from both sides talking,
Speaker 1: and and I I think it does happen. It's it's
Speaker 1: I I really when when so often, particularly because of
Speaker 1: the pandemic, we're often living virtually or living on our phones,
Speaker 1: are living through social media, I think we really see
Speaker 1: the divide so amplified. And when you get out into
Speaker 1: public um by and large, when you're out, if you're
Speaker 1: out at the food court or wherever shopping, you know,
Speaker 1: you really see people getting along and people do avoid
Speaker 1: the political discussions, probably particularly this strangers. But I know,
Speaker 1: like this weekend we were all you know, friends, and
Speaker 1: we were all talking. There were lots of different views
Speaker 1: going on, and we did add that your history. I
Speaker 1: hope it's going on more. Um. I I think social media,
Speaker 1: you know, that's something I really think that it's a
Speaker 1: place where I've actually pulled back a lot from social
Speaker 1: media just in terms of the time that I'm on there,
Speaker 1: because I did find so often, um, even before the politics,
Speaker 1: I found there was there's just so often negativity is
Speaker 1: very cheap on social media. It's very easy and there's
Speaker 1: no real costs because it's not face to face, and
Speaker 1: I just found sometimes it can be a very draining
Speaker 1: place that I don't always feel is really representative of
Speaker 1: how we are as people. I hope it's not. Um.
Speaker 1: So sometimes I think when when you when you put
Speaker 1: down the phone and go out and interact with with people,
Speaker 1: I think I find I'm a lot more optimistic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and what's interesting there. We're gonna move on to the
Speaker 1: next question shortly, but um, you can interact with somebody
Speaker 1: just at a market or wherever and have a great
Speaker 1: interaction with them, and then you could find out that
Speaker 1: they're actually they actually voted the different different way than
Speaker 1: you voted and you're like, oh, interesting. Yeah, but but
Speaker 1: because you met them as a human first and didn't
Speaker 1: identify them with the political party, you have a connection.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, that's actually okay that you voted opposite
Speaker 1: of what I voted. Yes, anyway, we're gonna leave that one.
Speaker 1: We go on for days on that one. Okay, next question, um,
Speaker 1: this one is this one is really interesting. This is
Speaker 1: a complete pivot. There's two part questions. Okay, why are
Speaker 1: guys worse during COVID and who will my next significant
Speaker 1: other be? Why are guys worse? Is this from a
Speaker 1: woman or from a guy? I'm assuming this is from
Speaker 1: a woman. What's going on? First? I don't appreciate these
Speaker 1: generalizations here. Uh, just because for the first ten days
Speaker 1: of the pandemic, I sat in bed ordering take out,
Speaker 1: playing video games. I don't know. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: haven't noticed that guys are worse during the pandemic. I
Speaker 1: don't know on on what criteria. Maybe, Look, I think
Speaker 1: there is certainly I know for me, when I don't
Speaker 1: have to be on camera, I don't have to be
Speaker 1: dressed up. You know, I'm wearing my devor broncos Zubaz
Speaker 1: pants and my you know, I let things go a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I definitely think they're there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I will say for me, I find that
Speaker 1: if I am left to my own devices, I do
Speaker 1: get I like to be lazy, I like to sit around.
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe this is my girlfriend actually writing and
Speaker 1: she's just really being subtle here and trying to say,
Speaker 1: why don't you clean your act up? I think I
Speaker 1: think there's there's I know. I know for me, one
Speaker 1: of the things I found about myself is I'm not
Speaker 1: a great self starter. I'm very enthusiastic about things. But
Speaker 1: when I really I love having a challenge. I love
Speaker 1: having a deadline. I love getting into a goal. I
Speaker 1: love I loved having a coach. I love being a
Speaker 1: part of the team where it's like, here's our goal,
Speaker 1: let's go for it. When I'm left to my own devices,
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of wandering around, chasing butterflies and looking
Speaker 1: at bubbles. So I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that's it where I've I've always been uh challenge based
Speaker 1: or task based, and even my career now, it's like
Speaker 1: when we're doing Ninja Warrior or whether I'm doing live
Speaker 1: rescue or doing my podcast, my game show podcast. It's
Speaker 1: like I can focus on that and then the other
Speaker 1: time is me nol Yeah it is. I can say
Speaker 1: I'm selfish. You're right, men are selfish? What can I say? Um? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What was the second part? So? Where will my next
Speaker 1: who will my next significant other be? What do we
Speaker 1: what do we car that? Fortune tellers? You know it's
Speaker 1: going to be the best friend that you've never looked
Speaker 1: at that way, But maybe you will learn the pandemic
Speaker 1: about that. That's a little rom calm twist. So you're
Speaker 1: you're you're encouraging our community that if they like they
Speaker 1: can't see something like I have no hope of a
Speaker 1: romantic partner to maybe think of like the person that
Speaker 1: they really get along with them, maybe they've overlooked. I
Speaker 1: will say very often, I think we have an ideal,
Speaker 1: right that we look for. And I think when you
Speaker 1: start to say, hey, what, why don't I look for
Speaker 1: who makes me happy? Instead of saying what I think
Speaker 1: I want? I think, Look, I've never been married, I'm
Speaker 1: closing in on fifty. I'm not the right person to
Speaker 1: give relationship advice. Um, but I think there is something
Speaker 1: to saying, Hey, I want to look for someone kind
Speaker 1: of with shared values and someone who makes me happy.
Speaker 1: I love. That is wonderful. Um. Next question, do men
Speaker 1: it's kind of on the same things. Do men have
Speaker 1: a larger pool of women to date from now that
Speaker 1: now than before? Is it easier for men to date
Speaker 1: now than before in a man's perspective, Um, so I'm
Speaker 1: dating someone, So I would say, I think with COVID
Speaker 1: is particularly hard, just because you don't have any random interactions.
Speaker 1: Right You're not in the workplace, you're not out at stores,
Speaker 1: you're not you know, your masks are on, You're not
Speaker 1: running into people. So it's either I'm on a dating
Speaker 1: site or it's someone I'm pursuing intentionally. So I think.
Speaker 1: I think for anybody, the pool is probably slim, I think.
Speaker 1: And even then it's hard to say what are you
Speaker 1: comfortable with? Like do you want to go on a date?
Speaker 1: But you know the six ft apart as we walk
Speaker 1: outside with the de humor air purifier in between us.
Speaker 1: So I think for everyone right now, relationships are tough. Um.
Speaker 1: I think this is a particularly tough time to be dating.
Speaker 1: And because you know it's it's hard to be casual right,
Speaker 1: anything you do anytime you go out now it has
Speaker 1: to be intentional in the mask and kind of being
Speaker 1: sensible about it. So just the idea of, hey, we'll
Speaker 1: go for a coffee at Starbucks where you know, we
Speaker 1: we figure it out. So I think, I think women
Speaker 1: it sounds like she may be frustrated with the dating prospects.
Speaker 1: I think my buddies are, you know, and some of
Speaker 1: them they're all on dating sites though, the ones who
Speaker 1: are dating right now, and that's how they're meeting people. Um,
Speaker 1: I wonder if some of this is baked into that
Speaker 1: that when the world was open pre COVID, the world
Speaker 1: was open, there was somewhat of a There was some
Speaker 1: like what of a standard for guys to like take
Speaker 1: a woman out on a date, right, Like to go
Speaker 1: on a date, let me pick you up, Let's go
Speaker 1: to a restaurant, whatever it is, concert, let's go on
Speaker 1: a date. Now that kind of standard is kind of
Speaker 1: not so much there, and so so men might have
Speaker 1: got really lazy and you could plan a picnic, or
Speaker 1: you could plan a hike or like some other kind
Speaker 1: of date. But they turn on your Netflix, I'll turn
Speaker 1: on mine and FaceTime it's yeah, So maybe men have
Speaker 1: just gotten lazy and they're like, I don't need to date.
Speaker 1: I don't need to take you on dates, but I
Speaker 1: want everything that comes from that too, And I don't
Speaker 1: know I have I have friends. That's the last question
Speaker 1: we just asked. Is they're a bigger dating pool for
Speaker 1: women or for men than there are for women. I
Speaker 1: have a friend who says, I have actually two friends
Speaker 1: that say dating in l A and their girls dating
Speaker 1: in l A is awful. There's no man, there's no man.
Speaker 1: And they're like, there's so many girls but there's no man.
Speaker 1: They feel like there's so much competition, but they feel
Speaker 1: like there's no man. And I'm like, we live in
Speaker 1: a city where there's nineteen million people. My hometown is
Speaker 1: six hundred people. My grad class had nine boys and
Speaker 1: seven girls. If you think dating in l A is hard,
Speaker 1: you have no idea what hard dating is. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. There's dating possible for me. There's
Speaker 1: dating possibilities all around, but they don't see it as such.
Speaker 1: But do women do women tend to see that like
Speaker 1: there's a lot of women and only a few men. Well,
Speaker 1: I think if you're single. If you're single, of course
Speaker 1: you feel like there's not enough pool, right because otherwise
Speaker 1: you'd be you'd be with somebody, and you you see,
Speaker 1: I I think, you know, she probably has all her
Speaker 1: friends who are single too, and so they they're all
Speaker 1: they're not realizing guys are in the same boat. I think.
Speaker 1: I think there are plenty of people out there. It's
Speaker 1: hard to meet the right one, and I think often
Speaker 1: we look for the wrong things. And you know, are
Speaker 1: you trying to meet somebody at the bar where you're like,
Speaker 1: is this really the place you want to meet someone
Speaker 1: you want to take home to your parents when you're
Speaker 1: both doing to well? Not now? But so I think
Speaker 1: there's you know, you you you what are you looking for?
Speaker 1: You know? Are you are you looking for a hook up?
Speaker 1: Are you looking for someone who's hot to day? Or
Speaker 1: you're looking for someone who I really want to build
Speaker 1: a future with, because I think all three of those
Speaker 1: put you in a very different mindset of of you know,
Speaker 1: how you're approaching what you're looking for. Mhm, Okay, let's
Speaker 1: let's kind of stay along the science particular, how do
Speaker 1: or what do I get my significant other for Christmas?
Speaker 1: So Matt you're a man. Let's let's from a male's perspective.
Speaker 1: What is something that you're you want to experience. I
Speaker 1: want to experience, especially right now where you know, things
Speaker 1: or whatever it's it's you know, a sweater or a
Speaker 1: golf clubs whatever. I just would and play Pebble Beach
Speaker 1: with with three of my college roommates and you know,
Speaker 1: we we we've been planning a massive birthday part we
Speaker 1: couldn't so it's just we four of us went and
Speaker 1: we did this, and the whole day I just kept saying,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest day. This is the greatest day.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be with my friends. I just
Speaker 1: had we you know, we ended up having drinks outside
Speaker 1: at the end. I was just like, this was so happy.
Speaker 1: So I think, you know, particularly during this year when
Speaker 1: we've all been locked down, when we haven't been traveling,
Speaker 1: and you know, one of the things I was gonna
Speaker 1: say that that I think all of us have been
Speaker 1: missing is face to face interactions. Because this is great.
Speaker 1: I can see you, but it's not the same as
Speaker 1: being in person, and the idea of if you could
Speaker 1: do a trade, just even in escape, even if it's
Speaker 1: just driving, you know, twenty minutes outside of town and
Speaker 1: and and getting a hotel or an airbnb or something,
Speaker 1: but an experience where you say, hey, we are going
Speaker 1: to kind of create, you know, a carve out a
Speaker 1: little bit of normalcy, or carve out of time to
Speaker 1: make a memory. Because I think we, you know, in
Speaker 1: this past year, we've seen material things are are not
Speaker 1: what motivate us. You know, you're you're sitting in your
Speaker 1: big house, but if you don't have your friends and family,
Speaker 1: everything feels a little empty. So I think trying to
Speaker 1: trying to get someone you know, some experience, or trying
Speaker 1: to get them some special some special day, even if
Speaker 1: it is like you were saying, just a picnic where
Speaker 1: you drive an hour out, you just make it where
Speaker 1: it's I just wanna, I really want to shift shift
Speaker 1: your setting being you know, where we're out of the house,
Speaker 1: where we've all spent way too much time, and just
Speaker 1: get get me out, give me someplace and and hopefully
Speaker 1: you know, try to have a couple of people there,
Speaker 1: friends or family, whatever you feel safe with, and just
Speaker 1: connect with people, because I feel like that's what all
Speaker 1: of us are craving right now. Yes, I love that answer.
Speaker 1: I wasn't sure how I was going to answer that. Um,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna piggyback yours. Um. One thing I've been
Speaker 1: focusing a lot on in my life is surprises. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to do a lot of surprises for people. UM.
Speaker 1: And what I think would be a great I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with you, like, as a man, what would I
Speaker 1: want to receive for Christmas? Um? And I want what
Speaker 1: is yours? What is the one thing you want? It
Speaker 1: would an experience? Is it? And one thing I think
Speaker 1: we're all missing of a lot of in our lives
Speaker 1: is laughter. So if you if here's here's like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna gift wrap with a gift for people
Speaker 1: to give to your significant other. Uh. Book and Airbnb,
Speaker 1: I don't know, an hour or two out of town.
Speaker 1: Like you said, let's change our environment setting talk to
Speaker 1: my three best friends or the three couples that we
Speaker 1: love the most or something. Say hey, I got this
Speaker 1: Airbnb booked. It's a surprise for Brooks. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: these three days. Everybody get a COVID test three days
Speaker 1: before and then isolate and then we're gonna show up
Speaker 1: here and we're gonna have three days together with all
Speaker 1: eight of us, and we're gonna laugh and play and
Speaker 1: just be together in a safe place and just laugh, laugh, laugh.
Speaker 1: The two words, the two words on my mind are
Speaker 1: just laughter and love. And that's I think we've been
Speaker 1: missing a lot of the laughter. And so at this time,
Speaker 1: like you said, a material thing, like, what's this gonna do? Whatever,
Speaker 1: it's a material thing. But what's gonna feed my soul? Oh?
Speaker 1: Some laughter with my closest friends. So planning some sort
Speaker 1: of surprise like that where we go somewhere and my
Speaker 1: favorite people in the world are there. Oh, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a hell of a gift. Okay, well we we
Speaker 1: crushed that brother who we did? Oh yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1: There is Okay, we're gonna get some very good gifts
Speaker 1: courtesy of Brooks and Ice. Okay, here can go. Now
Speaker 1: here's a Oh man, this one's gonna hurt. We're gonna
Speaker 1: flip into one eighty. We're in such a we're in
Speaker 1: such a good mood. Why do I got to do
Speaker 1: this to us? How do I stay smart about finances
Speaker 1: during COVID? Wow? Um, you know the reality is, I
Speaker 1: mean we all curbed our spending a Ton, but we
Speaker 1: also likely current curbed our our earnings. I I think
Speaker 1: it's it's it's, uh, you know, this is this really
Speaker 1: is another time where you reevaluate what's important to you
Speaker 1: and looking at you know, the the gym membership or
Speaker 1: those nights you know, the big nights out, or you know,
Speaker 1: the getting the biggest car possible, whatever it is. I
Speaker 1: think it's kind of making those choices about all right,
Speaker 1: what are those things that really fuel you, really really
Speaker 1: bring you the happiness and putting your money there, um
Speaker 1: and and uh, I think you know this, this is
Speaker 1: this is the black Swan event, right. I'm hopeful that
Speaker 1: the economy is going to come back, that jobs will
Speaker 1: come back, that people are gonna start to be able
Speaker 1: to feel more comfortable about their earning prospects, and you know,
Speaker 1: feel a little more comfortable than that they'll have some
Speaker 1: wiggle room. But but I think it's it's, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we we all are probably you know, I've been on
Speaker 1: Amazon and bought some things that I really didn't need
Speaker 1: because I was just sitting at home and going, all right,
Speaker 1: and you start to go, all right, where where do
Speaker 1: I want to if if if I've got you know,
Speaker 1: a hundred bucks, What do I want to do? You
Speaker 1: know what am I gonna do with that? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be I will really want to get some
Speaker 1: nice food or maybe cook some meals. I I think
Speaker 1: it's you know, I don't I'm not the finance guru,
Speaker 1: but I think it's it's starting to say where do
Speaker 1: you get the most return for your money? Um and
Speaker 1: and and bring you that joy and and cutting out
Speaker 1: those things that before you know you didn't have to
Speaker 1: make those hard decisions, but saying you know, I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people are cutting out you know, TV
Speaker 1: and cable and got don't cut out A and E
Speaker 1: or N d C because I need to keep a job.
Speaker 1: But I think starting to say, uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: can cooking more meals. And I think foods. Foods a
Speaker 1: big one where you know, as soon as you start cooking,
Speaker 1: boy you start and the other thing you eat so
Speaker 1: much better when you cook, Oh my god, a lot healthier.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think it's just try to
Speaker 1: say I'm spending money where it gives me the maximum happiness. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I would The first place I would encourage people
Speaker 1: to look at, too, is how many subscriptions do you have, Um,
Speaker 1: people subscribe to Netflix, who lose Amazon Prime, Apple TV,
Speaker 1: Disney Plus like whatever? And then how many musical on Spotify,
Speaker 1: fit Radio? Like? How many subscriptions? How many times? Is
Speaker 1: there just an automatic debit coming out of your bank account? Um?
Speaker 1: That adds up. Then you can look at like you said,
Speaker 1: look at things like look at what is necessary for you?
Speaker 1: Do you have to have the upgraded cable package? Do
Speaker 1: you even need to have cable if you have all
Speaker 1: of those subscription packages? Um? One thing too is do
Speaker 1: you need to have to be a is if you're
Speaker 1: if you're a double like if you're a husband wife,
Speaker 1: for if you're a two person home, do you have
Speaker 1: to have two vehicles at this time? Could you sell
Speaker 1: one because hey, we're not both driving to work, we
Speaker 1: work from home during this time. Um, if we need
Speaker 1: to pull back, could we sell a vehicle? We save
Speaker 1: on insurance, we save on gas, maintenance, the car payment, Like,
Speaker 1: there's a way to it s some money? Um. And
Speaker 1: then like we probably don't need to spend a lot
Speaker 1: of money on dress clothes or new clothes right now.
Speaker 1: You probably can just like flying with what you got there.
Speaker 1: I think there's ways. I think There really are ways,
Speaker 1: when we actually really look at it where our money
Speaker 1: is going, that these aren't necessities. A lot of these
Speaker 1: are excess and abundance of your life. They really aren't necessities.
Speaker 1: Like you said, good food, Yeah, spend money on on
Speaker 1: good food so that you have good energy, so you're
Speaker 1: eating clean yourself. Yeah, that's where you know. The other
Speaker 1: thing I'm seeing is a lot of people are reevaluating
Speaker 1: where they live. Yes, particularly cities like New York in
Speaker 1: l A, where you know, you're your monthly nut is
Speaker 1: is not small and people, as as we're seeing, work
Speaker 1: is so much more portable than I think anybody envisioned
Speaker 1: for a lot for a lot of careers. People are saying,
Speaker 1: do I need to live in you know, in the city,
Speaker 1: or could I be out in the suburbs, or could
Speaker 1: I be in a different state, or could I be
Speaker 1: closer to family and other places? And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: that's been a big change. I've seen a lot of
Speaker 1: people considering are actually making is relocating to places where hey,
Speaker 1: my you know, I'm cutting it by you know, a third,
Speaker 1: I'm cutting a third and I'm really you know, frees
Speaker 1: up a lot of financial gives them a lot of
Speaker 1: financial mobility. Yeah, um, okay, you touched on this. Next question,
Speaker 1: you touched on this, Um, how do I find the
Speaker 1: motivation to cook during quarantine? So? How do I stay
Speaker 1: away from that? Postmates? How? This has been my biggest struggle.
Speaker 1: I actually so I've never cooked. I you know, grilla
Speaker 1: steak every now and again. But I I took um,
Speaker 1: there's a master class if you've ever seen it online
Speaker 1: with Gordon Ramsey's cooking, and it was absolutely riveting. And
Speaker 1: I started cooking and was cooking breakfast every day and
Speaker 1: cooking most meals. And then I started getting back to
Speaker 1: work and I've I've fallen off of it. So I'm
Speaker 1: not the best one to ask, but I will say
Speaker 1: when I was doing it, it was a lot cheaper,
Speaker 1: I was eating a lot better. I felt better. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm I live alone, my girlfriend comes over. Sometimes cooking
Speaker 1: for myself has been a real challenge. I think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, finding the things I found that helped me,
Speaker 1: we're making sure. I tried to have the supplies that
Speaker 1: I needed for a few days, so I had a
Speaker 1: couple of meals planned out and you know, I kept
Speaker 1: it basically simple. Um. And then sometimes what I would
Speaker 1: try to do is is do you know, cook a
Speaker 1: couple of pieces of meat and then just be able
Speaker 1: to throw them on the pan for a few minutes
Speaker 1: instead of given the you know, twenty minute love and treatment.
Speaker 1: So I I think trying to any any planning you
Speaker 1: can do, which I'm lous yet, but if you can
Speaker 1: plan a little bit, I think that really helps You're cooking. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: one thing that helps me if I cook for myself,
Speaker 1: I just like throw something together and eat it. I
Speaker 1: just want something extremely clean and healthy, but it probably
Speaker 1: doesn't taste that good. I just cook for performance basically.
Speaker 1: But one thing that helps me is if I have
Speaker 1: a friend come over. Now it's like an experience versus
Speaker 1: just like just cooking for myself. Um. So I'm sure
Speaker 1: we all have like that, really close friends. Somebody we
Speaker 1: know is social distancing, somebody that we probably still see
Speaker 1: that if they have COVID, we have COVID because it's
Speaker 1: just our lives are that intertwined. I have friends where
Speaker 1: I would see them every day or two. Um, and
Speaker 1: our big thing was having suffer together. That was our
Speaker 1: like we were all socially distancing and that was our pact.
Speaker 1: Like hey, we're gonna social distance anytime public it's masks everywhere,
Speaker 1: And because we still want to be able to see
Speaker 1: each other during this time, we don't want to have
Speaker 1: to not be able to see each other. So that
Speaker 1: level of dedication to it from each other allowed us
Speaker 1: to see each other and have supper together almost every night.
Speaker 1: And then cooking was such a better experience. I was
Speaker 1: with people I love, We put love into the food.
Speaker 1: We tried new foods, we tried new recipes. We have
Speaker 1: probably more time on our hands. Nobody's compute commuting to
Speaker 1: and from work. Like you might have a little bit
Speaker 1: more time in hance parents maybe not. You probably have
Speaker 1: kids to look after and teach. But that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But look up. So I want to get better at cooking.
Speaker 1: I actually would love to take a cooking class. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here was my other tip that that would apply
Speaker 1: probably to you, but for most people maybe not. But
Speaker 1: the thing I found that really helped me with my
Speaker 1: cooking was I was doing I did Instagram live. I
Speaker 1: was doing it every morning, looking breakfast and the accountability
Speaker 1: of going, hey, I'm gonna be there at eight thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning, but having an audience I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the chef now because an audience. So
Speaker 1: that was something that that helped me cook and really
Speaker 1: you know, continue to find new recipes in new ways
Speaker 1: to make breakfast and so that was that was really
Speaker 1: fun and hopefully it has worked well. I hopefully it
Speaker 1: worked on slow down. But I'll get get back into
Speaker 1: that because that was really I did Mornings with Matt
Speaker 1: and I just I just loved it. I love it.
Speaker 1: I loved cooking in the morning with with and just
Speaker 1: having like a couple of people chiming in. That's a
Speaker 1: great It's actually a great thing, right, make it a thing.
Speaker 1: Make it, make it a thing. I actually have an
Speaker 1: apron that has my name on it. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: like mornings with Like pancakes is there? It is breakfast
Speaker 1: because I supposed to say pancakes. I love making pancakes.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a breakfast with Brooks Instagram Live. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna bring you on it. Have you raped my Kodiak cakes? Uh? Right,
Speaker 1: and make just this stunning breakfast. But like, make it
Speaker 1: a thing. If I just do something, if I'm just
Speaker 1: like I should cook, it's not that fun. But if
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to make this a thing, whether
Speaker 1: it's an Instagram live or you want to start your
Speaker 1: own little cooking sequence on Instagram or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: make it a thing by yourself. I bought myself, dude,
Speaker 1: I bought myself a beautiful, like the most expensive spatula
Speaker 1: from work, just for my pancakes. It's okay, nobody gonna that, boy,
Speaker 1: Nobody can touch my spatula. My spatula cannot be used
Speaker 1: for anything else other than pancakes. What's this? What kind
Speaker 1: is it? Williamson? What is it? I don't Oh, it's
Speaker 1: got this like he won't even he won't even tell
Speaker 1: us folks he's had his spatul the game, dude, you
Speaker 1: gotta you just you'll have to turn into Breakfast with
Speaker 1: Brooks and check out the spect Okay, let's go where
Speaker 1: I know where we've been on here, like fifty five
Speaker 1: minutes we got Let's find one more. Here's a great one, right, Um?
Speaker 1: How do I get in shape and lose weight during COVID? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 1: So this is something again that I struggled with. Where
Speaker 1: when I was eating Postmates and playing video games, I
Speaker 1: gained about fifteen pounds and you know what I did.
Speaker 1: I I downloaded the Peloton app because they made it
Speaker 1: free for like three months. And what I loved about
Speaker 1: it again is I said, I'm not a great self starter,
Speaker 1: and I struggled working out on my own. I would quit,
Speaker 1: but this app is fantastic because it had classes where
Speaker 1: they were talking to most most of them you could
Speaker 1: do them live, but they were prerecorded, but it still
Speaker 1: felt like your in a class, You're gonna complete it,
Speaker 1: and you could do some of the work. Guts were
Speaker 1: short as five minutes. Most of them I would do
Speaker 1: would be thirty minutes, but once I started, I would
Speaker 1: finish everyone. And then it also gamifies it where it
Speaker 1: keeps track of them. So finding I think Peloton just
Speaker 1: the classes are spectacular, They're well done, the qualities great,
Speaker 1: the music is great, and I think it's like twelve
Speaker 1: bucks a month now, but I'm sure there are some
Speaker 1: that are even cheaper. But I think that is a
Speaker 1: fantastic thing. And you could literally most of the stuff
Speaker 1: could be body weight or maybe a couple of dumbbells
Speaker 1: or resistance fans. I was doing it in my bedroom,
Speaker 1: So I think having an app or having something where
Speaker 1: I gave you that sense of you could select classes
Speaker 1: ahead of time to kind of hold yourself accountable. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm scheduling this eight am class, so I know I
Speaker 1: could not do it, But I think when you make
Speaker 1: that commitment to yourself, you're a lot more likely to
Speaker 1: keep it. Um and that that it would track and
Speaker 1: you could see, hey, you've worked out, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: days this month. Good job. It was a good job.
Speaker 1: So I think finding an app or something that gives
Speaker 1: you some buy in, uh is really helpful. Yeah. Um.
Speaker 1: The first place I go with this is a lot
Speaker 1: of people their gym is closed. So our facility that
Speaker 1: we would go to is now closed, which means we
Speaker 1: don't have a place to work out. So I've I've
Speaker 1: always encouraged people designate a spot in your home, whether
Speaker 1: that's in your basement and your grad whether it's like
Speaker 1: a mat that you roll out or you clear the
Speaker 1: coffee table or whatever, find a spot in your home
Speaker 1: where that is your designated little fitness area. Um. And
Speaker 1: so that because every day if it's just if home
Speaker 1: just looks the same and you don't have a spot
Speaker 1: to go to, it's just easy to miss. You're like,
Speaker 1: I want to work out, and that then the motivation
Speaker 1: has gone. So set up your environment where you have
Speaker 1: a designated spot where like this is this six ft
Speaker 1: by six ft area. This is where I do my
Speaker 1: working out, at my water bottle, my towel, my my
Speaker 1: matt here, maybe a couple of dumbells. This is where
Speaker 1: I do it. UM. And then the other thing UM
Speaker 1: that really helps is putting some sort of challenge to
Speaker 1: it with a friend. Right, if you bring in a friend,
Speaker 1: say hey, I've been I've been really struggling, Matt, I'm
Speaker 1: really struggling. I'm not working out. Have you been doing
Speaker 1: the same, Yeah, I've just been eating paintza. Like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's do something together, man, Like let's let's don't let's
Speaker 1: commit to thirty days and let's be workout buddies, accountability
Speaker 1: partners and UM. And then like you said, join an app. UM,
Speaker 1: I have a training app. UM, I have a fitness
Speaker 1: training app called open Gym. And I made I just
Speaker 1: made a code when I saw this question before the show,
Speaker 1: I made a code. Hm T. So if people go
Speaker 1: to open hyphen Jim dot com and sign up for
Speaker 1: any program and when you sign up for any of
Speaker 1: the programs, UM if you enter the code h m T,
Speaker 1: you'll get fift off for the first three months. I
Speaker 1: just want to give it to people I'm just like
Speaker 1: and and we have a body weight program. My mom
Speaker 1: does the body weight program every day. It's a fantastic program,
Speaker 1: so you need no equipment. It's twenty minutes or less.
Speaker 1: We have a program that has weights. Then we have
Speaker 1: like the professional level program which I had, which I do.
Speaker 1: And then we also have an app program for people
Speaker 1: that just want to like work up app. So go
Speaker 1: to open hyphen gim dot com, sign up for any
Speaker 1: program entered h m T. When you're signing up, you
Speaker 1: get off for three months. Um, but start moving and
Speaker 1: bring a friend in. Bring a friend in on this
Speaker 1: with you, keep you accountable. I think the the the
Speaker 1: the added benefits of exercise. Aside from the fact that
Speaker 1: you'll you'll be feeling better, it also will give you
Speaker 1: that structure of you know, in so many times our
Speaker 1: days are much more fluid. But to say, hey, every
Speaker 1: day at eight am or nine am or whatever, at
Speaker 1: five pm, I'm getting that work at it and giving
Speaker 1: your days the structure. But it's also I think when
Speaker 1: when days are fluid and flow into each other to
Speaker 1: have said, ah, I did I there's a check check
Speaker 1: that I worked out and and you just see it
Speaker 1: with the endorphins. Working out is the surest way to
Speaker 1: to get your mental health right. Yeah, I agree. I
Speaker 1: I I'm my most creative, I'm my most grateful. I
Speaker 1: solved my problems. I like my energy gets blown out.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm just like vibrating. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: do with myself. Um, it's there's so many ways that
Speaker 1: that I sleep better. So many people are struggling with
Speaker 1: sleep right now. But it's not it's sleep isn't the issue.
Speaker 1: It's the fact that we haven't moved during the day,
Speaker 1: so we're not tired enough really to sleep. So like,
Speaker 1: there's so many Also, we make better nutritional choices when
Speaker 1: we're working out. We're less likely to eat junk food. Um,
Speaker 1: there's so many added benefits, fringe benefits even that come
Speaker 1: from working out. So I'm a huge advocate for people
Speaker 1: to find a way to move. Doesn't need to be inside. Also,
Speaker 1: you don't need a gym. Today I went for a
Speaker 1: four mile run and then it did a bunch of
Speaker 1: lunches on a picnic bench or like a just like
Speaker 1: stic plan to come back. Just yeah, like just I
Speaker 1: love I love moving outside. Like it's just fitness. There's
Speaker 1: many different ways to do fitness, not just in the
Speaker 1: gym that you were going to get creative, get moving,
Speaker 1: get healthy. It'll show up in many, many areas of
Speaker 1: your life. So um, buddy, one last one, last one
Speaker 1: for you, I want you to just give to our
Speaker 1: community your last thoughts and just some inspiration and motivation
Speaker 1: for people that are really struggling, really going through a
Speaker 1: tough time right now. What are some positive words that
Speaker 1: you can share with them. Yeah, you're not alone. We're
Speaker 1: all struggling. We are all having tough times during this
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm certainly one when I come on,
Speaker 1: I prefer to emphasize the positive. But this has been
Speaker 1: a challenge for all of us. Meet me too. And
Speaker 1: there's certainly been moments where you know, you you you
Speaker 1: feel the despair and you feel kind of the weight
Speaker 1: of this pandemic and being locked down. But I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we're seeing there's light at the
Speaker 1: end of the tunnel. And I think it's also been
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to find the silver lining in this,
Speaker 1: and I think it is to me, the greatest gift
Speaker 1: of this has been a forced slowing down where I
Speaker 1: felt society but I know my life was going so
Speaker 1: fast I wasn't I wasn't stopping to kind of look
Speaker 1: up and to say, you know, what is all this for?
Speaker 1: Where are we going? And with it? And to to
Speaker 1: to start to say what is really important you know
Speaker 1: now and and moving forward? And I think we've all
Speaker 1: kind of had a chance to reflect on what we
Speaker 1: do for a living, where we live, who we're with,
Speaker 1: what makes this happy, and to look at it is
Speaker 1: all right, now, what are you gonna do about it?
Speaker 1: Because you you you know, we didn't ask for it,
Speaker 1: but we've been given this how to mirror held up
Speaker 1: to how we were living our lives. And I know,
Speaker 1: I I think I hope we all take this time
Speaker 1: and come back to as we re enter the world
Speaker 1: to say, all right, I'm gonna do this a little
Speaker 1: more intentionally. And I think we've got an opportunity here
Speaker 1: to make those choices and to really start crafting that
Speaker 1: life you want. I mean, this is this is kind
Speaker 1: of a reset button for everybody where you know things
Speaker 1: are going to be changing, and it's it's like how
Speaker 1: are you going to respond? And this is where you're
Speaker 1: gonna choose how this next phase your life goes. So
Speaker 1: you know, every it's an opportunity. Let's look at this
Speaker 1: as an opportunity. And here is this global opportunity. We
Speaker 1: have to kind of come out of this hopefully stronger, happier,
Speaker 1: more motivated, more connected, and and to figure out how
Speaker 1: we do that. Mat That was wonderful. That was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing. Um. When I look at that question,
Speaker 1: the first thing that comes to my mind is because
Speaker 1: we talk about this last week with Hanna Um speak
Speaker 1: and listen. Um. We're not meant to go through this
Speaker 1: world alone. We're not. That's that's the like. We are
Speaker 1: not meant to be alone or to go through this
Speaker 1: world alone. And so many of us that are struggling
Speaker 1: are choosing to struggle alone because we're not willing to
Speaker 1: speak about it. Um, so speak, call, call somebody and
Speaker 1: open up. That's why I wanted to do this show.
Speaker 1: That's why part of my mission with How Men Think
Speaker 1: is I want to be a man that opens up
Speaker 1: and shares because I'm not good at that, and this,
Speaker 1: this show holds me accountable to do that. So, whether
Speaker 1: you're a man, whether you're a woman, where you're young
Speaker 1: or old, whatever, you're allowed to struggle. You're human. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: you are human. You are going to struggle, we all do.
Speaker 1: So have the courage to open up and to speak
Speaker 1: and to share that with people. You are not meant
Speaker 1: to go through this world alone. And then also listen
Speaker 1: when somebody does. Don't say oh yeah, I'm struggling to
Speaker 1: that's all like my life's m as to just listen.
Speaker 1: Just be there for somebody that's opening up to you.
Speaker 1: You'll have your time to speak another time too. But um,
Speaker 1: connect with people. Connect, connect, connect, find ways to open up,
Speaker 1: find ways to share your heart, find ways to share
Speaker 1: things you're struggling with, find where ways to share things
Speaker 1: that are exciting to you, find ways to laugh and
Speaker 1: still make memories. Just don't stop life is what I
Speaker 1: would advise people, or hope to give to people. Uh, well,
Speaker 1: said Bud, So my dude, Um, where can people find
Speaker 1: more of you? Because you're such an inspiration. I love
Speaker 1: your message, man, I'd love to have you back on
Speaker 1: the show. Maybe we get maybe we get you and
Speaker 1: and our boy bar back. I've seen this, Um, But
Speaker 1: where can people find already hang out social media, social media.
Speaker 1: I am on their way too much. At Matt Eisman
Speaker 1: m A T T I S E M A N.
Speaker 1: We just wrapped season twelve and injin Wayer we're in
Speaker 1: talks for thirteen. Figure that out. And every Friday night
Speaker 1: I'm on A and E Live with Live Rescue, where
Speaker 1: we're following firefighters, paramedics and mt s. And every Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Factorious the game show podcast that's dropping, so you can
Speaker 1: check it out. Um, and I'm around. I'm always around
Speaker 1: and and always happy to hear from people and get
Speaker 1: feedback on these things. I love hearing when people say, hey, man,
Speaker 1: I heard you on that podcast and just wanted to
Speaker 1: reach out. It's really cool because so often you do
Speaker 1: these things and you, you know, I feel like I've
Speaker 1: had some having a conversation with you, and then you realize,
Speaker 1: hopefully a whole bunch of people are listening to this
Speaker 1: and they take something from it and they share that
Speaker 1: with us. Tell me about Factorious. So it's a game
Speaker 1: show podcast. It was just it's it's a ton of fun.
Speaker 1: It's it's actually we give you the way it works,
Speaker 1: and we give you a clue and that clue is
Speaker 1: the letter or letters the initials of the answer, and
Speaker 1: then we give you facts about it, and then teams
Speaker 1: you have to people buzz in when they think they know.
Speaker 1: If you get it right, you get the points. If
Speaker 1: you get it wrong, you're out for the question. But
Speaker 1: what's cool is they really give me a lot, a
Speaker 1: lot to do where they're like, make it yours, have fun.
Speaker 1: And so I'm you know, I'm a jackass. I'm all
Speaker 1: up in it, and uh, we're actually gonna be and
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna be shooting the pilot for it
Speaker 1: for TV. So yeah, and it's the dream I wanted.
Speaker 1: I wanted that ring. I'm like, who can I go
Speaker 1: up again? So you're competitive? I like it. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna also because like I consider myself
Speaker 1: something you crushed Gavin to grow. We'll get we'll get
Speaker 1: here in there with you. You'll just put them in
Speaker 1: the matt Oh, GAF won't even have a clue. I
Speaker 1: will sniff that thing out in one clue. It'll take
Speaker 1: Gavin nine, Like, what are we talking about? I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna go write another song about this. Yes, we should
Speaker 1: do a how man think fact some of the other dudes.
Speaker 1: Um dope, awesome brother Matt. I appreciate you so much.
Speaker 1: It's been a ray of sunshine and a breath of
Speaker 1: hope for our community. Checkout Match, check out American Ninja Warrior.
Speaker 1: Have you done the obstacle course? You must broken foot,
Speaker 1: broken ankle. I'm banned from looking at an obstacle. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't like I've run into it. I thread as my
Speaker 1: bones are like Rice Christmas. I shouldn't have tried it,
Speaker 1: but uh, I couldn't help it, and I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick to the host thing. Okay, it's all
Speaker 1: it's all upper body strength. Hey, those guys, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have like six four to now, so I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm really the host stand man. It can hold me. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It doesn't that that the obstacle course doesn't set up
Speaker 1: for you, not at all. It's like it's it's finally
Speaker 1: it's biased against big guys. It's really I'm not going
Speaker 1: to stand for this anymore. Yeah, yeah, right, five muscle.
Speaker 1: It's brutal, but you're the man. Um wishing you and
Speaker 1: your family everybody the best happiness and health, and I'd
Speaker 1: love to get you in our far back on here. Anytime,
Speaker 1: we'll do it again. Everybody listening, we wish you the
Speaker 1: same happiness, health, stay active, stay safe, stay healthy until
Speaker 1: next week, Take care of one another, love one another,
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