1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Ronan, I think about building a mechanic. Can you build 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 1: a mechanic the way you build a car? Musty a 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: man with parts made in the past. That I am 4 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: the car doctor. It's a thought that goes through my 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,319 Speaker 1: mind all the time because I keep thinking about who's 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: going to fix the cards up tomorrow. I'll never mind 7 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: the technology, just who's going to physically and mentally be 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: up to the challenge. Welcome to the radio home of 9 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: Ronanian the Car Doctor. 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I've got a couple 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: of emails from me in the past week that well, Um, 31 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: it's interesting to see what's going on out there, and 32 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: that's probably one of the main reasons I've enjoyed doing 33 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: the show for the past twenty five years, just to 34 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 1: see what's really going on out in the world. It's 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: always a little different from your perspective, from your side 36 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: of the counter. Do you like eating in a good restaurant? 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: Do you ever eating a good restaurant? Ever? Go to 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: a good steakhouse, Tony ever go to a good steakhouse? 39 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: And and you know, yes, I have. And the one 40 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: that you took me and Tom to, um earlier this year, 41 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: it was Hulahan's Calhoun and something like that, Yeah, one 42 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: of them, and it was a good meal, right, And 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,639 Speaker 1: you say to yourself, can I duplicate this at home? Right? 44 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Like you enjoyed that. I'm not an Emerald Agassi, so 45 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: I I know my limits, right, But if you were 46 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: going to duplicate that at home, you would really have 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: to have the same that have that chef that cooked 48 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: that steak for me, that at least or at least 49 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: you have to have that steak, that that caliber of meat. 50 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: And that's I was thinking about this this week that 51 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: you know, perhaps that's what all too repair is. You know, 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: you sort of need that caliber of of grocery, of meat, 53 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: of food that's prepared for you at that good restaurant. 54 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that what holds back regular repairs from 55 00:02:55,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: becoming good ones is the parts being used. But a 56 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: lot of it isn't the fault to the shop. It 57 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: is that the shop is choosing to use a poor 58 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: quality or a white box part, or you know, something 59 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: of of questionable substance. But a lotment has to do 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: with the marketplace. And we've been talking of latest matter 61 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: of facts. Somewhere in my pile of papers, I've got 62 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: an email that I want to talk about, uh this 63 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: week well from Rick and Lacrosse, Wisconsin. We're talking about parts, 64 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sort of addressed that a little bit this, Sarah, 65 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: But I also want to talk partly about you know, 66 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: from my perspective what I'm seeing two thousand five forward 67 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: f two fifty diesel, a eight foot bed cab over uh, 68 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: you know, extended cab came into the shop and it 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: needed a few things. It needed a gas tank or 70 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: a fuel tank I should say fuel tank diesel pardon me, 71 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: a fuel tank float sender replaced because the it had 72 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: a fault code for the level sensor and um, there 73 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: was an issue with the float assembly in the tank 74 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: and needs to be replaced. That part, which is just 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: it's a it's a metal plate with a tube, a 76 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: suction cup, and a regular fuel level sender four and 77 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: fifty almost five dollars as as the OE level forward part. 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: You start looking around at the aftermarket pieces and you 79 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: can get them, but for the money you're gonna save, 80 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 1: you have to question, you know, how long will it last? 81 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 1: What's the reliability? Will it work in this application because 82 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: in order to do that float, you're doing it one 83 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 1: of two ways. You're either pulling the tank off, pulling 84 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: the tank down, and you're lifting the bed up. In 85 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: the case of this f to fifty and this is 86 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: a common problem on these the bedrails rusted out and 87 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 1: they require replacement, and it's it's really fast becoming an 88 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 1: issue in that the the aftermarket seeing you know, you 89 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: guys want to know what I'm thinking. So the aftermarket 90 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: has come out with a kit that you can do 91 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: a bed repair and then have to fifty pickup truck. 92 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: So your choices are to do this. You're gonna I 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: think you're gonna use the best quality float you can get, 94 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: and for my money right now, it's gonna be that 95 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: fourd piece for five bucks. But then you've got to 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: either lift the bed off and put a new bed 97 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: on because it's so badly rotted and rusted, or you're 98 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: gonna do a bed repair kit. The bed repair kits 99 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: about four hundred bucks plus labor. A bed is five 100 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: grand to put a new bed on from four to 101 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: start pricing things out and all that's involved in that. 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: So what are you gonna do. You're gonna try and 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,480 Speaker 1: do the bed repair kit, right, I mean, that kind 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: of makes sense. But here's where the after market misses 105 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: the mark. There's five rails underneath the underneath the bed. 106 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: The kid only has four. So when we called them 107 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: up and spoke to them. We said, you know, so, 108 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, here's this kit you're advertising, as you know, 109 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: bolts on complete kit does everything we're supposed There's only 110 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: four rails here, how come? And the answer we got 111 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: was because the fifth rail, the one that runs with 112 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: wise across the front of the bed, is physically part 113 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: of the body and it can't be detached, and it 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: can't be covered over, and it can't be repaired. I 115 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: don't understand. You know, one hand, you're telling me this 116 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: is the perfect piece and this is you know, this 117 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 1: is gonna work, and the other hand you're telling me 118 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: what you're giving me is an incomplete kit. And I 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: don't have to go and buy five more pieces anyway. 120 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: And that's just typical of what we run into. And 121 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: that's my point. I want to go back to the 122 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,839 Speaker 1: two thousand seven Dodge Van. We talked about that last 123 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: week and that's what generated Rick's email. Um he was 124 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: asking me about price of parts and when to use, 125 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: what parts from where. In the case of this Dodge Van, 126 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: it was eleven d dollars for two rear shocks. As 127 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: they were a load level of shock. They were a 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: much heavier shock and the question became, do I use those? 129 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: Do I use the aftermarket? Didn't find anything in the 130 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 1: aftermarket that really gave me warm fuzzies. And the fact is, 131 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:02,039 Speaker 1: when you're a hundred dollars apart a piece different from 132 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: the OWE part to the aftermarket part, I think you 133 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: kind of go with the OI piece. I don't think 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: saving a hundred dollars justifies the possibility of having to 135 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: go through this all over again. Not to mention it's 136 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: a handicapped vehicle and trying to get it, trying to 137 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: get it um uh in for repair becomes difficult, which, 138 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: by the way, you know, just just talking repairs, like 139 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: we are right here now, you and I. So I 140 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: finished the shocks on the on the Dodge Caravan, and 141 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: I did the inspection. I was on the other side 142 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 1: of the shop, and you hear it was like one 143 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: of those movies. It was. It was like a three 144 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: Stooges movie. Here pce the valve stem blew out of 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: the tire, shot across the shop and the car got 146 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 1: a flat sitting there. You can't make it up. Now, 147 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: it's an aluminum TPMs sensor because it's a two thousand seven, 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: and it was just erosion, and it must have clipped 149 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: the end of the stem just enough that it weakened it, 150 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 1: and eventually it just blew the stem right out, which 151 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: made me certainly, which made me ask the question, Thanks Tom, 152 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: which made me ask the question, what happens if the 153 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: the owner who's driving these handicaps, and you know what 154 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: happens to him? How does he change a flat tire 155 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: on the side of the road and he can't, so, 156 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, thank gosh, it failed in the shop. My 157 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: point is that picking parts today is not easy, and I, 158 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: as a shop owner and I as a technician, always 159 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: weigh location, how easy, how easy is it to replace accessibility, 160 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: the price of part, how it's being used, the age 161 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: of the vehicle, the environment it's working in. It's not 162 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: as simple as just walking up and buying everything off 163 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: the counter from an OE or from an independent parts source. 164 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: A lot of consideration has to be put into that, 165 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: looking at overall cost. Yeah, because to a large degree, 166 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: and you know, Rick's questions and comments were he doesn't 167 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: want to be trapped having to use OI parts because 168 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: of the expense. You're right, But part of the problem too, 169 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: is like eating in that good restaurant, you can only 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: continue to produce a good steak dinner as long as 171 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: you have good steak available. And the way things are 172 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: going with more and more manufacturing disappearing, if there's any 173 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: here lift at all, with more and more parts in general, 174 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: as these vehicles get older disappearing, I wonder when the 175 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,200 Speaker 1: next count is going to become extinct, When when the 176 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: next pile of parts is not going to be available. 177 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: And I often think to myself, I wonder if just 178 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: being able to know where to source parts from and 179 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: whose parts to use in what application is going to 180 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: be a required skill going forward of all mechanics and 181 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: something that's going to make this industry really stand up 182 00:09:58,200 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: and take notice as to who's got the buying this 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: visions and we'll see where that goes. Zero nine zero zero, 184 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm run nading the car doctor. We are giving away 185 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 1: a Wicks die cast car this hour. I know Tom 186 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: and Tony have been eyeing it up. It is a 187 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: thirty nine scale hot rod, it is a period correct piece. 188 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: We've done this before and um, yes Tom has uh 189 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 1: is is yeah okay, and um we're gonna be giving 190 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: that away this hour to a lucky winner. So you 191 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: want to stay tuned for that told you and I 192 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: told you he wasn't gonna let us have that. Listen, guys, 193 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: we have to give that away. It's it's for the listeners. 194 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: It's not for you to So is that okay? Saturday, 195 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:42,439 Speaker 1: that's it and you get to see me. Just remember, 196 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: just remember in our relationship, you're positive. Is at least 197 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: you have me And we'll leave it there. I have 198 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: a headache. I've heard that. Zero nine zero zero The 199 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: Car Doctors coming back right after this, right, welcome back. 200 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: We're on the niving Car Doctor. Eight five zero nine 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,439 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Keep in mind that number is seven. 202 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: You can give us a call, leave a message if 203 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: we're not here on the air. We're live Saturdays to 204 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 1: to four pm Eastern Time, and I'll leave a message 205 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: at eight five zero nine nine zero zero and we'll 206 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: call you back and put you in the line up 207 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: and talk to you about your car problem and helps 208 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: solve it for you, because that's what we do. That's 209 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: what we've done here on the Car Doctor for the 210 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: past twenty five plus years. Let's get and talk to 211 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,319 Speaker 1: Carlton and Virginia Big Park. You have some questions on 212 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: training fluid and synthetic carton. Welcome to the car doctor, sir. 213 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: How can I help you? Sound real good it today? Run? 214 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,959 Speaker 1: I just acquired another eighty nine Great Park Avenue, and 215 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: I've been using what the car manufacturers started recommended. And 216 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: since I'm older and wiser now, I thought I did 217 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: your advice, since you turned me onto a number of 218 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: other things, I thought you're the expert I need to 219 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: talk to. Well, I'll tell you what you know. What 220 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: are you looking for? Information on what trans fluid to 221 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: putting that? Yes? Um, what what years are they cart 222 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: And you've got an eighty nine and ninety anything newer 223 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: or anything older? I got the ninety nine, and I've 224 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: got about ten friends of mine that they you know, 225 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: they got eighty nines up to two thousand two. So 226 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,560 Speaker 1: I just got this when then it's seventy nine thousand 227 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: miles on it, and I got to the mt amounts. 228 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: So I want to know about the transmission to it 229 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: so I can go ahead and and you know, keep 230 00:12:55,760 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 1: that going. I'm as fussy as on transmission fluid as 231 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: I am on engine oil. Carlton, you know, in the 232 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: in the sense that, yeah, you know what oils are created? 233 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: The same to a degree. Trans fluids are created the 234 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: same to a degree, but in both of them, in 235 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: my mind, you're still buying the engineering that the company 236 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: puts into them. And you know, when you look at 237 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: training fluids today, you know, we were just talking about 238 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: this in the shop the other day. We still we 239 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 1: still hand mix are green coolant, which is conventional cooling 240 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: for cars that you know, conventional green cooling cars probably 241 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: haven't been manufactured for ten years now. We still hand 242 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: mix it. But we're talking about we're not gonna mix 243 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: it anymore because we're gonna keep it on hand. We're 244 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: not gonna keep it in a big drum. Because Toyota 245 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: is specific, Honda specific, Ford specific. Everybody's got a specific cooling, 246 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: everybody's got everybody's got a specific trans fluid too, and 247 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: there's there is a large degree of specificity. Is that 248 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: a word specifics um to transmission fluid? They want certain 249 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: things in there to a certain level, to an exacting standard. 250 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: I often think that we don't give the automatic transmission enough. 251 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: Do we don't take care of it enough. We were 252 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: all so hyped up about changing our engine oil every 253 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: three thousand or five thousand or ten thousand miles or 254 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: whatever we want to do. Nobody really talks about changing 255 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: transmission fluid. A lot of times when I when I 256 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: tell people it's time to change your transmission fluid, I've 257 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: actually had people say change it into what. So, you know, 258 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: it just goes to show you the lack of respect 259 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: and an automatic trans gets. We can make an engine 260 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 1: go three hundred thousand miles, it's to be expected that 261 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: an automatic trans a buck and a half two hundred 262 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: thousand is probably the end of its limit. And I 263 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: think I think a lot of that is due to 264 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: the fact that we don't change it, and or when 265 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: we do change it, we don't use the right or 266 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 1: a good quality fluid that beings. That being said, your 267 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: car originally came with decks three, you know, General Motors. 268 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: It was a standard. It was a nonsynthetic fluid. Uh. 269 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: It worked for the longest time. General Motors has now 270 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: gone to a the next level of decks, which I 271 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: believe is synthetic and it is a it is a 272 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: better grade of fluid. All right, So you know, nothing 273 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: wrong there. One of the things one of the things 274 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: to switch it up for a minute. One of the 275 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: things I like about Penn's Oil is as an oil company, 276 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: they also have a line of transmission fluids. And to 277 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: my point about engineering and specifics, if trans fluid didn't 278 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: have to be that specific and accurate in the way 279 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: it's composed, then I don't think a company like Pens 280 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: Oil would get together and you know, make an exact 281 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: trans fluid for your vehicle and the other guy and 282 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: the next guy, and the next guy and the next guy. 283 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: So you know, and obviously you know. You can read 284 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: more at penns Oil's website pens oil dot com and 285 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: get down to the transmission fluid section. I think, I 286 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: think what I would be thinking about is you have 287 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: an old school trans you know I would be I 288 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: would I have no fear of putting a better grade 289 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: of trans fluid into synthetic, changing the fluid every thirty 290 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: thousand miles depending on how you use it, changing the 291 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: filter um if you can, if you can find a 292 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: shop that's got a fluid exchange machine, absolutely positively you know, 293 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: doing a fluid exchange, and I think you'll get a 294 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of life out of that trans Do you remember, 295 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know how long you've been 296 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: a listener to the show. Do you or does anybody 297 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: remember me talking about my friend carpenter Bob. I always 298 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: call him with his remember that right, do you know? 299 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Do you know we did fluid exchanges on that transmission 300 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 1: starting around the two thousand mile mark, no, the one 301 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: eight mark, and that trans held together for four until 302 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty eight thousand miles we started doing 303 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: trans fluid ex He got almost a half a million 304 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:14,959 Speaker 1: miles out of that transmission before he finally had He 305 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: finally had to take the vehicle off the road when 306 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: I walked up to it one day and I said, 307 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: what's this rust blister over the right wheel? Well? And 308 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: I was able to take the fender and peel it 309 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: out and hold it. I said, Bob, I think it's 310 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: time to take the truck off the road. I think 311 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: it's done. And and and that was probably seven years ago. 312 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: So there's something to be said for doing trans fluid 313 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: changes with a good quality fluid and doing a fluid 314 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: exchange versus just changing what's in the pan, because you 315 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: only get out, you know, four or five courts versus 316 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, ten to twelve, fourteen, uh, you know, whatever 317 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: the vehicle's got So does that answer it for you? Yeah, 318 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna do that because I've been using 319 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: my pens all, you know, all my life and I 320 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: was born in nineteen Yeah, and you know it's it's 321 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: just a better all. And I've never had any trouble 322 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 1: when I re build, uh you know three and uh 323 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 1: you know you've you've you've getten the good all. You 324 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: know you can get the good service. Right, that's right. 325 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,440 Speaker 1: And you know what, you hit the nail on the head. 326 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: If they're making a good oil, they're making a good 327 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: transfer with get out the penzoil dot Com. Hey, Carl, 328 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Stay on the line, babe. Tom 329 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: gave me the thumbs up. You, sir, are getting the 330 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: week seventy fifth anniversary scale Rod. We're gonna send that 331 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: down your way. Stand on the line so Tom can 332 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: get your information. And we appreciate you being part of 333 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Nation. I'm on any of the Car Doctor. 334 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back. We're on any 335 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor rolling along at eight five five 336 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Happy to be 337 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: here with you this afternoon as we kind of cruise 338 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,199 Speaker 1: on out into the automotive world. More information about us 339 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 1: at Car Doctor show dot com. And keep in mind 340 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: eight five five five zero zero seven call leave a message, 341 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 1: we'll call you back and get you in the lineup 342 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: for the following show and solve your automotive problem. And 343 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: there's always podcast at tune in my heart and iTunes 344 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: dot com. Let's go back to the busy phones. Let's 345 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: go over and talk to Carl and over New Jersey 346 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 1: with a Mercury Mariner and some questions on belts. Carl, 347 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help hi? 348 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: Long time listener, me and my dad, great show, Thank you, sir. 349 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: I have a Mercury Mariner three point oh leader V 350 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:34,439 Speaker 1: six and three thousand miles, and I was curious of 351 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: when I should replace the belts. The manual shows the 352 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,120 Speaker 1: routing of the belts, but it doesn't tell you make 353 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: some mention of one day should be replaced. You know, 354 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: it's it's six years old, Carl, and it's got a 355 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 1: hundred thousand miles on it. Belts today last a long time, 356 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: and chances are you could probably squeeze a little bit 357 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: more out of that belt. You know, it was probably 358 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: the better part of fifteen years ago, they stopped producing 359 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: what we call a chlora chlora prene belt and they 360 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: went to an e p d M e p d 361 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: M UM. It's a little bit of a tongue twister. 362 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: It stands for ethylene propylene dean monumor belts and and 363 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: basically the way they explain it to us, and we 364 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 1: always explain it to people at the counter, is if 365 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: you look at a belt, it's got those grooves in it. Well, 366 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: in the old days we looked at a belt to 367 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,239 Speaker 1: see if it was cracking. On the e p d 368 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,679 Speaker 1: M belt, we're looking at them to see what is 369 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: there where because they wear just like a tire, like 370 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 1: the tread on a tire goes down. And they've actually 371 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: provided us with gauges where we can sit there and uh, 372 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: you know, put this pointed gauge into the tread and 373 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: look to see do we see air underneath the points? 374 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: If so, then you know a gap. Then that means 375 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: that the belt is warning needs to be replaced. But 376 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: the thing I always think about at a hundred and 377 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: three thousand miles whatever you've got on this is how 378 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,199 Speaker 1: how are the rest of the pulleys that was another question. 379 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: A right, So you know I love technology. Look, look 380 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 1: look what it's done, right, I mean, I could go 381 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: through the list. The car has gotten better. We don't 382 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,159 Speaker 1: do valve jobs anymore. We hardly do tune ups. We 383 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: don't do points to cars don't have points anymore. There's 384 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: no carburetors, there's no adjustments. You know. I'm getting ready 385 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: to go to a I'll tell you a side story. Uh, Carl, 386 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: if you got two seconds, Um, I'm gonna go to 387 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: a seminar. There's a seminar coming up in Paramus, New 388 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: Jersey on ignition for technicians UM put on by a 389 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: company called Parts Authority. And I signed up for the 390 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: class and I don't have an account with Parts Authority. 391 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: So they said, hey, you gotta get an account with us. 392 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: And it's fine whatever, you know, I'll do whatever you 393 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: want to do. And the guy said, well, you can 394 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: start buying parts from us, and I said, well, you know, 395 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: I've already got a couple of parts houses and I 396 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 1: don't know how many more I really need. And he's like, 397 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: what do you mean. I said, start thinking about what's 398 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: left that we can really legitimately, honestly replace on the car. 399 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 1: In a regular basis. What does it? What do most 400 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: shops sell? Belts? Maybe hoses, Yeah, okay, brakes. Brakes are 401 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: always gonna Brakes are always gonna be a big seller. Tires, 402 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: wiper blades, air filter, cabin filter or trans service oil change. 403 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,320 Speaker 1: You do spark plugs. At a hundred thousand, you should 404 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: be doing a fuel injection cleaning every eighteen once to 405 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,320 Speaker 1: two years, throttle body cleaning occasionally in a c service. 406 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: But cars today are all maintenance. We're not We're not 407 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: doing cylinder heads and engines and not at not if 408 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: the car has been taken care of, not if it's 409 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: had proper maintenance. So you know, technology has made it better, 410 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: but I think it's also lulldess. And this is my 411 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: point into a full sense of security. And I think 412 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: you're very wise asking the question at a hundred and 413 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: three thousand miles, when do I change the belt? You know, 414 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: if I was gonna be sarcastic, I could say, way 415 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: you could change it now are you can wait till 416 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: you're on the side of the road and change it there, 417 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,480 Speaker 1: But then that becomes a problem. Um, I just didn't 418 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,479 Speaker 1: want to change it, and Pat, now I don't think 419 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: you're premature. I think you're right. I think you're You're 420 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: probably a little on the early side, but I think 421 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: early is better than later. And you're you're, you're, you're 422 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: right in the groove there, I would, Well, you know 423 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: the same same argument, right, hoses are six seven years old? 424 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: Which which which engine is in this carl? Say so 425 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: you know hoses? How about a thermostat if you know, 426 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: if we're gonna talk maintenance, if you put a thermostat 427 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: in this car yet? All right, but there's there's two 428 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: belts and I'm thinking this small belt is water pump. 429 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, this is the three leader a Mercury Mariner. 430 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to picture a Mariner. Okay, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, 431 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So right, so you have you have okay, 432 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: so my engineer's head is going to explode in about 433 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: two seconds. You have the belt that sits on the 434 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: passenger or the driver's side of the engine that has 435 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: no adjustment. It is a it is a non adjustable 436 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: belt and off, well there's a special tool involved for that, 437 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: all right. And you know that belt never ever, ever, ever, ever, 438 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: ever ever goes bad until it does. Okay, so you know, 439 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: change that belt changed the belt on the other side, 440 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: put an upper and lower radiator hose in it, pap 441 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: a thermostat into this thing, put a radiator cap on it. 442 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: Absolutely time for some maintenance and driving another hundred thousand miles. 443 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: And that's exactly and that's exactly what I did to 444 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: Tom rays Escape and his daughter's I don't know where 445 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: she is with it now, she's somewhere in upstate New 446 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: York or now she she's home. But it went up 447 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: to Upstate New York, it went through college, it went 448 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: Tom's gonna jump on the mic. Here where is that 449 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: car now? No, she lives at home and she drives 450 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: back and forth to work every day with it. And 451 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,120 Speaker 1: she's planning on going back to Canton for a continuing education. 452 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: She's a text and how many miles around that now? 453 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: So it's got almost two miles on it. So maintenance 454 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: does pay off. UM. Maintenance does pay also, but by 455 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: all means, and obviously you know good quality parts, UM. 456 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: And now here's a case. We're using a stant thermostat 457 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: and a stant radiator cap. Absolutely positively, UM, A stand 458 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: superstat would be wonderful in a car like this. That's 459 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: what I put Tom's and it works well. I'll get 460 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: out the stand dot com for more information. Alright, Carl, 461 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,320 Speaker 1: all right, thank you, you're very welcome. Thanks for being 462 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: a long term listener to the Car Doctor. Zero zero. 463 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Let's pull over, take the pause, and when we come back, 464 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: we'll go talk to Maury with some questions about Hansa 465 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 1: CVT transmissions and telling um, I'm sure this will be 466 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: a good time. Stay put, I'm on ending the card Doctor. 467 00:25:41,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. You get flcome back run the 468 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: Car Doctor at five zero nine zero zero. Car Doctor 469 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: seven phone number eight five zero zero. Call leave a 470 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: message if we're not on the ear and we'll call 471 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 1: you back. Let's go and talk to Maury, who's winning 472 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: the very patiently in glenn Burn. Made some questions about 473 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: a Honda CVT trans and other stuff. Marie, welcome to 474 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Thank you 475 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: very much. I have two questions for you. For first, 476 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I'm planning along crip okay, and the oil. The computer 477 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: will tell me when I need to change the oil, 478 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 1: and I'm concerned what's going about ten thousand miles? Should 479 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: I change the oil before that? Yes? Zero? And the 480 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: mobile one filter yeah, and you know, well, my first 481 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: question is, then, what's the Mobile one filter rated for? 482 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: What does Mobile one say it's rated at. I don't 483 00:26:55,480 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: know the answer to that. It's the extended performance oil gas. Okay, 484 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: so the oil will make it. The question is will 485 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 1: the filter and you know, if the if the filter 486 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: is only good for five then it doesn't matter what 487 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: the oil does. And that's that's always been my art, 488 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: right That's always been my argument for it. Right now, 489 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: it just doesn't necessarily mean it's an extended range filter. 490 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, um, you know, I used to go I 491 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: used to go into the local radio shack here. It 492 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean it was corporate headquarters. Uh, you know, just 493 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 1: just because it's got the name over the door. So 494 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: it's just a fair question to ask them, Hey, what's 495 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: the I'm sure it's it's an extended range filter. I 496 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 1: would hope it's an extended range filter. But if it's not, 497 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: let's find out before we do any damage, all right, 498 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: If they're going to rate the filter, if well, if 499 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna rate the filter ten thousand miles, it says 500 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: on the box, what I just say, it is a 501 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,239 Speaker 1: higher capacity than the other filters. Okay, higher capacity of 502 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: what endurance? Or higher capacity to filter more particulate? Um? 503 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, So what do they mean? And keep in 504 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: mind what you're reading on the box is marketing. I 505 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: want to know, down and dirty what the answer is. 506 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: Will it work or won't it? Will it go? If 507 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: the oil is rated for fifteen thousand, will it go 508 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand? Now, if you on that on that point, 509 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: if you have a fifteen thousand mile filter and fifteen 510 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: thousand mile oil, where would I change it? Is that? 511 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: Because if that's going to be your next question, I 512 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: don't know. I probably still change it at town because 513 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 1: you know I'm not I'm not one to let it 514 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: go the distance, and after five thousand miles I would 515 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: be checking the oil every thousand just to see what 516 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: sort of issues I might be having with burnoff and 517 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: what the condition of the oil is and what does 518 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: it look like? Okay, right, thank you on that one. 519 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 1: All right? UM. The other question I have is to 520 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: deal it tells me you do not tow with this 521 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: two thousand fifty hundres Civic LX. It's got to one 522 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: point leader engine with a CVT. But the owners man 523 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: that says, I can talk a town some pounds. Could 524 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: I tell a four or five hundred pounds trailer being 525 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: a very light toss of aluminum boat and a small trailer, 526 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: I don't see why not if if, if the manufacturer 527 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: is telling you, you know, the vehicles rated for it, 528 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: then I'm not sure why the dealer is saying it's not. 529 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 1: And that's a question for the dealer. They're the one 530 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: saying you can't do it. You know, what's on what 531 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: grounds are they saying you can't do it? Here? It 532 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: is in the book. The book says I can do it. 533 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: Why do you guys say no? Right? Thank you? You know? Um, 534 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: I would I would take that up with them. But 535 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: if if one says you can and the other says 536 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: you can't, you got to find out. I would tend 537 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: to I would tend to question the dealer because perhaps 538 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: they're misinformed or they're just not understanding the question. Better. Sure. Yeah, 539 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: it's not like I'm going to tell a camper trailer. 540 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm simply going to tell a small lightweight boat. You 541 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: know that towns and whatever the trailer ways. So you know, 542 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: like I said, if the manufacturers saying yeah, go ahead, 543 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: and the dealers saying no, all right, I would tend 544 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 1: to believe the manufacturer. They designed and built the car, 545 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: so I would I would have to give it. Right, 546 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: they wouldn't put it in the book if you couldn't, right, Yeah, 547 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: they wouldn't put it in the book. Right, they wouldn't 548 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: put it in the book. We live in a litigious society. 549 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: People love to sue people. So I'm holding me, I'm 550 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: holding me, those are box in my hand. And it 551 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,719 Speaker 1: just says three times capacity. It does not say anything 552 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: about capity times more capacity, right, So what's you know 553 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: if it's three times and and and think of it 554 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: like this, let's say three times more capacity. Maybe what 555 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: they're saying is three times the mileage, three times the 556 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: mileage from what from a three thousand mile filter, a 557 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: five thousand mile filter, a ten thousand mile filter, right, 558 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, marketing, maybe I should change, you know, I 559 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 1: should not run that ten thousand miles. We got three 560 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:05,080 Speaker 1: point nine. Well, and then there's that, and and then 561 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: I would read the owner's manual and see if it 562 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: says anything about checking the oil after so many miles. 563 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: Because their concern is about burnoff, which does occur in cars. 564 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: I'll never forget and I haven't seen that guy. Actually, 565 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: I haven't seen this guy in about two and a 566 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: half years now since I told him about his out. 567 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: He didn't like my answer, but uh, we had an 568 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: out he to change the oil on and I thought 569 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: it was kind of ridiculous that they wanted fifteen thousand 570 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: mile oil change generval and he was going to ten. 571 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: We checked it at we checked it before we changed it. 572 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: The oil had nine thousand miles on it. It It was 573 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: down two and a half, almost three quarts. And you know, 574 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: he was asking me why, and I showed him in 575 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 1: the owner's manual because I knew where it was. I 576 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: think it's page forty nine of a two thousand ten 577 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: OUTI A six sort of rings a bell um after 578 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: four thousand miles? How do he wants you to check 579 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: the oil once a month? And I'm sure everybody is 580 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: pulling into the gas station saying, hey, can you fill 581 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: it up and check the oil? Because we live in 582 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: a society it's more concerned about their cars than getting 583 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee from Starbucks. So you know, it's um, 584 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 1: it's it's an issue. I think you're I think you're 585 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: on the right track more I really do. I don't 586 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: think there's a free lunch. I've been fixing cars a 587 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: long time. UM, I tend to be more cautious than not, 588 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: and I've learned that that ounce of prevention goes a 589 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: long way to preventing a problem. All right, sir, you're 590 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,040 Speaker 1: very welcome, Very good luck to you. Zero. I'm running 591 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: eating of the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 592 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back on an of the card oculus to a 593 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: quick piece of email. UM, you know this came. We 594 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 1: were talking about this last week and I thought I 595 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 1: would point this out. We're talking about engine oil and 596 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: what it does and what it's all about, and it's 597 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: so so beyond just lubrication. Now we were talking about 598 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: this piece of tech information came to us from Matt Ericson, 599 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: he's the technical product manager in the passenger car side, 600 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: from the folks over at amaz Oil and amas oils 601 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,880 Speaker 1: messages all about engine protection and it's it's providing engine 602 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 1: protection against worst powerless and ware and and their thought processes. 603 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: It's not just lubrication, it's everything oil does within the engine. 604 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: Matt wrote an article about the different things that oil does. 605 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 1: Variable valve timing province as another complexity for motor oils 606 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: to overcome, and in this article he talks about Toyota's VVT, 607 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: or variable valve timing system how it varies the valve 608 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: motion by adjusting the timing of the cam shaft and 609 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: relation to engine speed oil pressure. Actuated devices commonly called 610 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: cam phasers are used to control that motion. Look at 611 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: what they're doing. They took us whole thing as a 612 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: cam shaft, as simple as that is, and made it 613 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: so much more complex by now giving the computer the 614 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 1: ability to just position in relation to the crankshaft and 615 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: change the way the engine runs. Look at the demands 616 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 1: and the stress that oil is put under, and you 617 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: have to stop and say to yourself that oil is 618 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: not just oil anymore. Just tumps us from the folks 619 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 1: over at Amazoil. I'm sure you get out of their website, 620 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: amazoil dot com or whatever it might be, and you'll 621 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: find more there. But very ill. Valve timing is a 622 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 1: big deal, and the folks at amaz Oil are recognizing that. 623 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: Kudos to them. Let's get over and talk to Mike 624 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: East Hartford, Connecticut. Some questions about any nine GMC. Mike, 625 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: I got two minutes. What's going on, Yes, sir, yeah, 626 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,959 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my call. You're welcome. What do you got? 627 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: I got an old but good shape five on the 628 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 1: floor right and uh uh two wheel drive and uh 629 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 1: dave they have bad h transmission. So what happened was 630 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: hired a transmission mechanic and we did it. We took 631 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: the the old the clutch, um m hmm, excuse me. 632 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: The clutch was no good, so uh dropped the training, 633 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: took the old clutch out, put the new clutch in 634 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: and brand new clutch. And you know, this guy's an expert. 635 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm a mechanic too, but submiss is enough 636 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: my fortaste. This sounds like this sounds like an ever 637 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: since quickly, I'm sorry, this sounds like something you're gonna 638 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: stay here ever since? Go ahead quick because we're of time, 639 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 1: all right. So the and then we put the clutch 640 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: slave cylinder on the outside of it, and then inside 641 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: if you took the case out the case, um, inside 642 00:35:52,120 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: the case there's a pivot exactly. So that broke. Kay, 643 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: and put the new trans and put the news clutch 644 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: in there and it won't go. Okay, Well did you 645 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: did you replace that? I get that clutch? Ley I 646 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: mean the cylinder. I would think any GM dealer is 647 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: still gonna make it. I'm sure there's sources for drive 648 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 1: training around the country. I can't think that's the hardest 649 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: thing in the world. Don't you Just google eighty nine 650 00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: g m C two speed and you'll find it from there. 651 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: I gotta go to the clocks against me. Good mechanics 652 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: are expensive, that places to see it