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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Tirec dot Com Studios. Jason Martin in Nashville.

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Speaker 2: Busy Saturday, Jason, what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: How you doing?

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Speaker 1: It is a busy Saturday. You're right watching the braves orioles,

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Speaker 1: hopefully hoping it ends better than one yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Did Hey, real quick, what happened with the magnet? What

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Speaker 2: happened with the magnet? So for people who missed it, yes, Jason,

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Speaker 2: got what did you print out the schedule and post it?

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Speaker 2: Or did you have an actual man?

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Speaker 1: You had?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I printed out the schedule and posted it. So actually,

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Speaker 1: so just like maybe it is going to turn around.

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Speaker 1: I was a little behind in the game, so I

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Speaker 1: did so if you could go ahead and set it up,

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Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what I ended up doing.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So for people who missed it, about three weeks

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Speaker 2: ago or so, Jason Martin comes on air and he says, Torres,

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Speaker 2: I got a quandary I need your help with. And

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Speaker 2: I said, of course, that's what I'm here for, you know,

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Speaker 2: part part radio host, part therapist, always here to listen.

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Speaker 2: He says, Aaron, I'm a huge Braves fan. Everybody knows that,

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Speaker 2: and I'm so dedicated that I want to make sure

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Speaker 2: I don't miss anything. So I actually went ahead and

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Speaker 2: printed out the schedule so I can have it on

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Speaker 2: the refrigerator so I never miss a game, never miss

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Speaker 2: a first pitch, never miss I thought this was a

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Speaker 2: seven o'clock start, but it was a one o'clock start whatever.

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Speaker 2: So I bring it up because just as soon as

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin put that that schedule on the on the

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Speaker 2: on the refrigerator, what happened. They take a loss, and

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Speaker 2: then they take another loss, and then another one, and

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Speaker 2: they were on a three or four game losing streak.

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Speaker 2: As we logged on air a few saturdays ago, and

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Speaker 2: we basically had the hard conversation. Does Jason Martin have

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Speaker 2: to take down the schedule. Is it impacting his team's

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Speaker 2: performance on the field, And what has the result been, Jason, Result's.

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Speaker 3: Been all right.

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Speaker 1: Like what I ended up doing was they lost again,

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Speaker 1: and so I moved it to the side of the refrigerator. Ok,

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Speaker 1: I moved it lower and to the side. We have

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Speaker 1: like a little desk next to our refrigerator where we keep,

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Speaker 1: you know, our keys and all that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: And so it's there, and I lowered it a little bit,

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Speaker 1: put some things above it, reset everything on the front

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Speaker 1: of the refrigerator. So it's all basically a shrine to

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Speaker 1: my daughter and to Jesus, and no more braves on

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Speaker 1: that side. And so they won that day, and then

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Speaker 1: they won again and won again, and then they had

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Speaker 1: the best record in the National League outside of the Pirates,

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Speaker 1: and so things turned around for them. They're playing against

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Speaker 1: the Orioles who are just having an outstanding season and

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Speaker 1: they're in a war tonight. But yeah, so I moved it.

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Speaker 1: I did not I did not want to take it

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Speaker 1: don't know that we need that on our bedroom wall,

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Speaker 1: and I said, look, I have to figure something out,

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Speaker 1: like eventually it may end up in the garage or

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Speaker 1: it didn't, so I did follow. I think the victory.

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Speaker 1: I think more people tweeted in and said I needed

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Speaker 1: to take it down. I fought it for one more day.

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Speaker 1: They lost. I gave in and moved it, and it

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Speaker 2: So it was an adjustment, basically, it was, you know,

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Speaker 2: it was an adjustment.

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Speaker 1: I felt like maybe I cheated it a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I kind of hedged my bet to keep it around.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 2: It's like a three point shooter that all of a

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Speaker 2: sudden can't make threes. You don't have to completely tear

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Speaker 2: down the shot and start over. Just a little tweak here,

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Speaker 2: just a little tweaked there. And I guess the Braves

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Speaker 2: are playing well again. So the Braves are on right now,

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Speaker 2: and so too are the Los Angeles Lakers. This is

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Speaker 2: obviously Game two of Saturday. As the segre just told you,

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Speaker 2: the Miami Heat took care of business against the New

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Speaker 2: New York Knicks. We'll talk about them momentarily. But Jason,

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Speaker 2: let's start with this game going on right now. Weird

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Speaker 2: game because obviously, look series is one to one. Lakers

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Speaker 2: win Game one, Golden State in a route in game two,

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Speaker 2: and you expect to get kind of the best effort

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Speaker 2: from both teams in this Game three could go either way.

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Speaker 2: Swings the series one way or the other. I bring

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Speaker 2: it up because Golden State incomplete control early. They were

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Speaker 2: up thirty to twenty three after the first quarter, and

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Speaker 2: then all of a sudden it was all Lakers. In

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Speaker 2: the second quarter, they outscore Golden State by eighteen points.

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Speaker 2: The story is really two full. First of all, Anthony

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Speaker 2: Davis sixteen points, seven rebounds, much more in line with

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Speaker 2: his Game one performance. But the real story D'Angelo Russell.

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Speaker 2: This man, you know, he giveth and he taketh away.

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Speaker 2: But tonight we're getting good D'Angelo Russell. Twenty one points

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Speaker 2: in the first half for D'Angelo Russell. How about this

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Speaker 2: twenty four total for Curry and Klay Thompson. Twenty one

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Speaker 2: for D'Angelo Russell. He is very much carrying a Laker

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Speaker 2: team where Lebron James started off slow, still has ten

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Speaker 2: points at the half, but it was the D'Angelo Russell

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Speaker 2: Show in the first half.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, it was. And that's look that that's why

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Speaker 1: they You've still got them, you know, in the in

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Speaker 1: the situation that they're in, it's very difficult. I know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk in more detail later on to really

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Speaker 1: make heads or tails of what's happening in the NBA

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Speaker 1: playoffs across the board. But if you look at what

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Speaker 1: is happening right now with the Lakers finding a way

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Speaker 1: to have the home advantage right now at the break,

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Speaker 1: you assume Golden State's gonna come out and try to

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Speaker 1: shoot their way right back into this thing. I don't

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Speaker 1: imagine this one's over. Game two felt like an outlier

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Speaker 1: to me. I don't think one of these teams is

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Speaker 1: just don't, not this year's Golden State team and not

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Speaker 1: this reconfigured Lakers squad. So the Lakers have this game

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Speaker 1: right now by Levin on their home floor. I don't

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Speaker 1: think it is wrong of me to say, if you're

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Speaker 1: the Lakers, you have to win this game, like you

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Speaker 1: cannot find a way to lose this. I don't care

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Speaker 1: how many times We've seen Golden State do this in

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Speaker 1: the third quarter. If you've got who you've got as

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Speaker 1: superstars on that Lakers squad, you need to bring this

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I tend to agree, and I think part

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Speaker 2: of it is one, it's obviously one to one. You

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Speaker 2: the series. I mean, there's no it doesn't help you

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Speaker 2: to lose Game three at home after you steal Game

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Speaker 2: this series, just the way it's constructed, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: Game two was obviously was on Thursday. It's Game three

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Speaker 2: on Saturday, and then you got to turn around and

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Speaker 2: play Game four again on Monday, and then it's a Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

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Speaker 2: and so it's basically in every other day series. And

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Speaker 2: I think this was kind of like the thing with

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Speaker 2: the Lakers, right is I think we all thought, Okay,

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Speaker 2: if they can stay healthy, if that veterans squad can

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Speaker 2: stay together, they should be in pretty good shape. But

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Speaker 2: the question is, Anthony Davis can never stay healthy over

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Speaker 2: the totality of a postseason Lebron James is now thirty

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Speaker 2: eight years old, and you really need those two to

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Speaker 2: be great on a pretty much nightly basis. So I

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Speaker 2: sit there to say is that you lose game three

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Speaker 2: at home, then you got to turn around in less

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Speaker 2: than forty eight hours and play a game four down

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Speaker 2: to one. Then it became comes a real, you know,

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Speaker 2: a real crucial must win situation there. But what I'll

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Speaker 2: also say is this, Jason, is that that I do

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Speaker 2: think that D'Angelo Russell. And again we've talked about it,

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Speaker 2: but credit to Rob Polinka for really shaking things up,

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Speaker 2: getting things done at the deadline. But this is why

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Speaker 2: you get D'Angelo Russell. And I was thinking about this

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Speaker 1: He's he is.

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Speaker 2: I think he has to be one of the most

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Speaker 2: unique players in the NBA from this perspective, is that

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Speaker 2: he's not the star of a team. And it's weird

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Speaker 2: because he was with Golden State and he didn't really

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Speaker 2: fit there. You know, Golden State's about kind of spacing

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Speaker 2: use with strength and numbers. D'Angelo Russell isn't that. But

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Speaker 2: he isn't a superstar, but he is exactly what the

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Speaker 2: Lakers need him to be, which is that, hey, we

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Speaker 2: don't need you to get us thirty every night, but

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Speaker 2: there might be a night where we need you to

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Speaker 2: always wondering who's gonna be that third guy, and then

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Speaker 2: sometimes who's gonna be that second guy when Anthony Davis

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Speaker 2: because I think D'Angelo Russell's kind of an entity unto himself.

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Speaker 2: He's not a superstar. He can't lead your program, your organization,

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Speaker 2: even with good teams. I don't think he's the right

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Speaker 2: fit in a lot of places, but he seems to

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Speaker 2: be exactly what the Lakers need, and he basically carried

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Speaker 2: Night Jase, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, he's kind of had to in some ways hum or,

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Speaker 1: he's been humbled. I don't know that he's had to

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Speaker 1: have become humble, but you watch what's happened to him

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Speaker 1: and how he entered the league and how Bet went

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Speaker 1: for him at the outset, and you mentioned what happened

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Speaker 1: in Golden State. It just it just hasn't lived up

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Speaker 1: to what you thought it was going to just based

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Speaker 1: on his draft position. But you're right, this is a

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Speaker 1: perfect role for him, and it's a role where, look,

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Speaker 1: no one if there's if all the Lakers are walking

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Speaker 1: there because Lebron James and Anthony Davis are also walking

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Speaker 1: not just basketball fans Anthony Davis, He's recognized by a

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Speaker 1: decent quantity of folks as well outside the basketball circle.

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Speaker 1: And then there's D'Angelo Russell. He can kind of just

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Speaker 1: you know, it sort of reminds me in a different way.

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Speaker 1: It's not the same guy. It's not the same situation.

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Speaker 1: But think about Wiggins and how Wiggins came into the league,

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Speaker 1: in college and then it just it just didn't click

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Speaker 1: for a while and he needed a change of scenery

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Speaker 1: and he found a team that, guess what, had a

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Speaker 1: Wiggins from Kansas, you know, the consensus number one pick

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Speaker 2: about ten minutes from now before we get to it. Jason,

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Speaker 2: So I just with Boston, they're just interesting because like

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Speaker 2: The Lakers took control of their series when when John

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Speaker 1: Actually they lost that game. I thought they won game

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Speaker 2: if it was just again the moment felt too big

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Speaker 2: for them in the finals last year. But I do

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Speaker 2: worry about them a little bit, Jason, even though they

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Speaker 2: should be the favorites in the East. You know, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to go through Miami again, which gave them fits,

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Speaker 2: you know, came down to the final shot of the series.

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Speaker 2: I just there's something about him that worries.

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Speaker 1: Me a little bit. That's yeah. Again, I think that

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Speaker 1: statement right there, in some ways can apply to virtually

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Speaker 1: all these teams. I worry about him beatailth I'll worry

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Speaker 1: about whether or not Harden. It's gonna be from one

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Speaker 1: day to the next, the version of Harden that they need.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they have enough on that side. The

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Speaker 1: Celtics point that you make is certainly right with the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: I wonder, and we talked about in the first segment

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Speaker 1: with the Lakers, which Anthony Davis is going to show up?

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Speaker 1: Can the real guys show up enough for them to

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Speaker 1: win with the Warriors. Can they just hang on? They're

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Speaker 1: not as deep as they have been. They certainly have

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Speaker 1: not played well on the road at all this season,

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Speaker 1: one of the worst road records in the NBA, and

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Speaker 1: it has gone right on into the postseason as well.

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Speaker 1: So again, you could do this, and when you look

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Speaker 1: at the Nuggets on paper, you look at them and

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Speaker 1: they've got everything that you need, but they've never been

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Speaker 1: able to do it yet. As good as they've been,

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Speaker 1: they still haven't been able to actually do it. And

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Speaker 1: so far all they've done is hold serve at home

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Speaker 1: and then lose when they went on the road the

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Speaker 1: game four. If they win that game, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be a completely different animal. We already know that Phoenix

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Speaker 1: has multiple questions in terms of CP three self and

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Speaker 1: just the help of those guys going forward. And you

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Speaker 1: had forty seven and thirty nine from Booker and to

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Speaker 1: Rant last night, and you didn't win the game by

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Speaker 1: forty like you needed most of those points to actually

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Speaker 1: hold on to beat the Nuggets. So I think that

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Speaker 1: your statement is right about the Celtics. I certainly feel

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Speaker 1: similarly their consistency and their effort from game to games

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Speaker 1: sometimes when they really turn it on, they do what

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Speaker 1: we saw a couple of days ago and beat a

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Speaker 1: team by thirty five in the playoffs in the second round.

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Speaker 1: But that that becomes concerning to me for all of

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Speaker 1: these teams, that there is there's a flaw or there's

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Speaker 1: something that can be exposed. And generally speaking, there's just

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Speaker 1: no one that I feel is just that consistent that

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Speaker 1: I could just one hundred percent believe that they're head

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Speaker 1: and shoulders better than four or five of the other teams.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what. There is maybe not a team

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Speaker 2: that has been consistent, but there's one superstar that has

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Speaker 2: over the news desk to saga, what's trending?

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Speaker 7: Hello, gentlemen, We this NBA playoff game going in LA

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Speaker 7: and the Lakers mid third quarter Leaite Golden State seventy

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Speaker 7: one fifty nine. This second round series tied at a

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Speaker 7: game apiece. Two of the Lakers starters have combined to

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Speaker 7: go one of twelve shooting from the floor, chered Vanderbilt

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Speaker 7: Austin Reeves and it's a double digit lead. Twenty one

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Speaker 7: points for di'angelo Russell Anthony Davis with nineteen Warriors shooting

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Speaker 7: just thirty eight percent from the floor. Sixteen points each

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Speaker 7: for Andrew Wiggins and Steph Curry. Game four of the series,

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Speaker 7: also in la Is late Monday night. Earlier at Miami,

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Speaker 7: eight seed Miami got a two games to one in

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Speaker 7: their second round series, beating up New York one five

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Speaker 7: to eighty six. Jimmy Butler with twenty eight points. He

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Speaker 7: had missed the previous game with a sprained ankle. Bronnie

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Speaker 7: James committed to play at usc by the way Stanley

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Speaker 7: Cup playoffs. Edmonton was up four to nothing in the

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Speaker 7: first and won five to one at Vegas, tying up

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Speaker 7: that series at a game apiece. Three hockey games tomorrow,

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Speaker 7: the New York Rangers parted ways with coach Gerrard galant

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Speaker 7: Mage won the Kentucky Derby at fifteen to one odds.

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Speaker 7: Two Pills finished second. The favorite Angel of Empire was third.

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Speaker 7: Hall of Fame jockey Hoavier Castillano snapped in zero for

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Speaker 7: fifteen streak in the derby. Attendance was one hundred and

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Speaker 7: fifty thousand nascars on FS one tomorrow from Kansas three

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Speaker 7: pm Eastern time. No Xfinity race this weekend. To Major

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Speaker 7: League Baseball, the Oakland A's are winning it's at Kansas City,

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Speaker 7: but it would Stier count As win five to four.

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Speaker 7: The A's are winning in the bottom of the ninth inning.

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Speaker 7: Dodgers up two to nothing at San Diego in the

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Speaker 7: bottom of the seventh despite just one hit for La.

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Speaker 7: Among the day games, Yankees gotta win at Tampa Bay

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Speaker 7: three to two, so the Rays record drops to twenty

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Speaker 7: seven and seven on the season. Blue Jays eight to

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Speaker 7: two winners at slumping pitts Burg, and Vladimir Guerrero Junior

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Speaker 7: of the Jays was out with a sore wrist. Braves

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Speaker 7: five to four over the Baltimore Orioles. Orioles twenty two

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Speaker 7: and eleven braves twenty three and eleven wins for the

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Speaker 7: Giants and Red Sox one a gain back to you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disaga, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday Era Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: tire rack dot Com studios.

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Speaker 1: A lot going on.

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Speaker 2: Today on this NBA or this busy Saturday in May.

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Speaker 2: One game that we really haven't touched on, Jason Disagar

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Speaker 2: obviously just got you updated on it. But the early

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Speaker 2: game today, Miami took care of business against the New

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Speaker 2: York Knicks one oh five eighty six. The final score,

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Speaker 2: Miami's up two to one in this series. But obviously,

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Speaker 2: the story in this one, like all the other series

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Speaker 2: that we just discussed, Jason, is the health of Jimmy Butler,

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Speaker 2: the best player and most important player in this series.

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Speaker 2: He was back today, looked like old Jimmy buckets twenty

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Speaker 2: eight points in this one. And I was thinking about this, Jason,

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Speaker 2: is that every year it feels like there's always at

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Speaker 2: least one, but it feels like as the playoffs go on,

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Speaker 2: there might even be more than one. And it's a

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Speaker 2: guy that's kind of easy to get behind and root for.

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Speaker 2: I think last year, you know, I don't think we

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Speaker 2: came into the playoffs kind of like pulling for Steph Curry.

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Speaker 2: But when when it got to the finals and he's

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Speaker 2: carrying this team and he's kind of had this burden

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Speaker 2: of and maybe it's not even a burden, but whatever,

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Speaker 2: Like he's had this thing where he's never won an

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals MVP, and you know, Agu dala Hat carried

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Speaker 2: him one year and it was Kevin Durant and like

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Speaker 2: at a certain point, like it just felt like everybody

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Speaker 2: was like, I want you know, if I'm not a

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Speaker 2: Celtics fan, I want the Warriors because I want this

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Speaker 2: little mini monkey off Steph Curry's back. Year before it

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Speaker 2: was Yiannis kind of saw him develop in front of

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Speaker 2: our eyes as fifty in game seven of the game

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Speaker 2: with a clinching game I think it was Game six

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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. So I bring it up because

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Speaker 2: I think there's obviously a few sentimental stories this year.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this though, Man, I don't know if there's

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Speaker 2: a guy that I'm personally rooting for now.

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Speaker 3: MBA.

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Speaker 2: It's a great story when his MVP. Jokic is a

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Speaker 2: great story. Curry still is a great story. Lebron maybe

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Speaker 2: one last run, but if Jimmy Butler, like if he

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Speaker 2: gets the heat to the finals again, because remember last

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Speaker 2: year they were a shot away from going to the finals.

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Speaker 2: They go to the finals in the COVID bubble year,

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Speaker 2: and this guy is willing this team, putting them on

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Speaker 2: his back, and in this era of super teams, he

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Speaker 2: wants to do his own thing, in this era of

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Speaker 2: you know, kind of being a superstar. From the time

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Speaker 2: here a sophomore in high school. This was the second

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Speaker 2: round pick that had to go to junior college and

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Speaker 2: then to Marquette. He just feels like the guy that

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Speaker 2: if the Heat continue to win. It feels like every

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Speaker 2: time they win, America kind of wraps their arms around

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Speaker 2: him a little bit more. Am I crazy to say that?

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Speaker 2: Just feels like I don't There's no like when Steph

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Speaker 2: does something good, half of Twitter is like, I hate

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Speaker 2: that guy, when Lebron does something good, half a Twitter,

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Speaker 2: I don't like that guy. Yoki show he's overrated. Oh,

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Speaker 2: this guy's overrated. That guy's overrated. It feels like everybody

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Speaker 2: just universally is like, Jimmy Butler's awesome. I love him.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? I mean I think that he Here's what I

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Speaker 1: would say about him because I feel the same way

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Speaker 1: He's really easy to root for because he reflects American

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Speaker 1: values in a lot of ways when it comes to

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Speaker 1: blue collar guy like he didn't have it all handed

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Speaker 1: to him, and there was no reason to think he

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Speaker 1: wasn't like the prize free agent the year that he

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Speaker 1: was acchoired by Miami.

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Speaker 2: If you remember, I don't mean to cut you off

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Speaker 2: really quick, but that was the year that Kadi, yes Uh,

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Speaker 2: Kawhi and Paul George were all free agents, and the

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Speaker 2: whole thing was Arkady and Kawhi gonna line up, or

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Speaker 2: Paul George wasn't a free agent, but r Kady and

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Speaker 2: Kawhi gonna team up. Kadi's going to Brooklyn. You know,

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Speaker 2: kd ends up going to Brooklyn with Kyrie, Kawhi ends

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Speaker 2: up trading for Paul George. But there was the report, Oh,

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Speaker 2: maybe Kawhi goes to the Lakers and plays with Lebron

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Speaker 2: and Ad and then there's Jimmy Butler just like, no,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to Miami. I'm gonna do my own thing.

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Speaker 2: I want to prove to everybody I'm the guy, and

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Speaker 2: he's done it. I didn't mean to cut you off, but

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Speaker 2: I think that's an important no, jeez.

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Speaker 1: No, it absolutely is. And I'm glad that you I

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Speaker 1: remembered the draft or I remembered that free agent period,

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Speaker 1: because it was nuts and it felt like Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: was like the Constellation Prize yep to the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 1: And all he's done since he's been there has been

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Speaker 1: a galvanizing force, unlike anybody that we've seen wear that

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Speaker 1: uniform over the past twenty years outside of Dwayne Wade

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Speaker 1: and I would say Alonzo morning. And then you have

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Speaker 1: glue guys that they've had for a long time off

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Speaker 1: and on, and certainly for a very long time, guys

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Speaker 1: like Eudonis, Haslam and all that. But Butler is such

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Speaker 1: a hard worker, he's such an effort guy, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't handed to him. And there's no reason to think

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Speaker 1: that this Miami team should be in the position they're in,

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Speaker 1: but for the fact that he is. He is such

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Speaker 1: a competitor that he just can't allow it, like he's

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Speaker 1: going to die on the floor before he lets you

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Speaker 1: beat him. And there are moments where you just marvel

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Speaker 1: at how he's able to take over a game. The

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Speaker 1: thing that Miami has that I think it really helps

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Speaker 1: them out a very likable, workaholic superstar in Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 1: that is driven to just earn everything that he's got,

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Speaker 1: and then a dude that used to watch film for

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Speaker 1: the team that's now maybe the best head coach in

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Speaker 1: the league.

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Speaker 2: So it's really interesting you say it because that was

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Speaker 2: kind of one of my other takeaways from this series

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Speaker 2: is Listen, I get that the NBA is a superstar

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Speaker 2: driven sport, and I do often wonder, like, what impact

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Speaker 2: does any coach have? I mean, Greg Popovich was great,

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Tim Dunck and Kawhi, Leonard,

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Speaker 2: Tony Parker, all those guys managed and noble are gone,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden Greg Popovitch doesn't look so

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Speaker 2: great anymore. You know, the Celtics have made multiple runs

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Speaker 2: under Brad stevens Imeadoka, now Joe Miszula. I bring it

648
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 2: all up to say, like Spo, you know, guy, I'm

649
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,480
Speaker 2: not smart enough to know what he's doing. But again,

650
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Eastern Conference finals last year, a shot away from going

651
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: to the finals, Bubble Finals obviously had all those great

652
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: one runs with Lebron, and so I think because he

653
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: had those great runs with Lebron, oh, you know how

654
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,479
Speaker 2: good is He's just kind of the puppet master. Lebron

655
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 2: and d Wade are doing all the hard work. I'm

656
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 2: not smart enough to know what Spoe does behind the scenes,

657
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: but this guy has to be considered the best guy

658
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: in the league. I don't think anybody gets more out

659
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 2: of a group on an annual basis than Spoe does.

660
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 1: That's right, And it took a while because no one

661
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: was going to give him credit. When it was Lebron

662
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: and Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh, it was just, oh,

663
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: anybody can coach that team. First off, that's false, but

664
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: second past that, just what he's done since and the

665
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: respect that he's earned across basketball circles. Like we heard

666
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 1: Papovich year after year after year, we hear Kerr year

667
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 1: after year after year, and look deservedly, I'm not suggesting

668
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: that you shouldn't hear those names, even though Papovich and

669
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: the Spurs that's kind of a rap, at least for now.

670
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: But Spoe has been great for a long time, and

671
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: he came from nowhere and he's just No one ever

672
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: says anything negative about the ever, but I think he's

673
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: like one of the most like uns he's kind of

674
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: the mic. He's almost like a Mike Tomlin figure. Yeah,

675
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: in the NBA, where it's just you just respect the guy.

676
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 1: You know his team's gonna show up prepared, you know

677
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go beat them. They almost never

678
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: outside of the Big Three era, have had anything approaching

679
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 1: the best roster in the league. And he maximizes them.

680
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: And look, their players play hard for him, which I

681
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: think speaks to him as well as them. But then

682
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: you get a guy like Butler, and if if you

683
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: see your superstar going out there and giving you that

684
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 1: and I don't mean any case of Spoe here, I

685
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: mean any case of his teammates, you can't help but

686
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: give your best effort around that guy. You play better

687
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: around a Jimmy Butler. That's the thing that I've never

688
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: really seen from Kyrie, for example. You play better because

689
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: he galvanizes a unit instead of polarizing a group.

690
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Speaker 2: Well, and that's why you know, as we watch this

691
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 2: Lakers game, and it obviously applies to the Warriors, it

692
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: goes without saying. I think a lot of people believe

693
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: Steph is maybe the greatest teammate in the history of

694
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: the NBA. We criticize Lebron for certain things, but he

695
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: does elevate others around him, and he you know, there's

696
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 2: a lot of pressure that comes with playing with him.

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Speaker 2: But again, we talked about D'Angelo Russell in the first half,

698
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 2: we talked about, you know, who was Ruy Hotchimore respectfully

699
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 2: because I remember Hi from Gonzaga, but like, who was

700
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: Ruy hot Chimore? Who was Jared Vanderbilt. I mean, it

701
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: does feel like the Lakers are getting kind of the

702
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: best version of guys on this team. We've seen that

703
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: through the years with other guys.

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Speaker 3: J R.

705
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 2: Smith nobody really wanted him, and Lebron says, I can

706
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: work with that guy, Imon Schumfert. You go on and

707
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 2: on down the list. And then, oh, by the way,

708
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Speaker 2: all the guys that he had with Miami as well,

709
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: you know, Mike Miller, Shane Battier, et cetera. But now,

710
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: to bring it back full circle of Jimmy Butler, I'll

711
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 2: be curious to see how the rest of these playoffs unfold.

712
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: Miami goes up two to one. I don't think there

713
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: is a guy that is more universally beloved in this

714
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Speaker 2: playoffs than Jimmy Butler. Fox Sports Radio Aeron Torres, Jason

715
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Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the Tirack dot com studios. Coming up,

716
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Speaker 2: we switch gears. There was a big event on Saturday,

717
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 2: just doesn't feel as big as it used to. I'll

718
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Speaker 2: explain next. Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jay, So we've talked to a lot of

730
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: NBA playoffs here over the first hour of our show.

731
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Lakers in control in game three, up eighty two to

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Speaker 2: sixty eight. As we start the fourth quarter here, we'll

733
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: have more reaction to this LA Warriors game as it

734
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: goes final an hour two. But Jason, I want to

735
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: say what I want to talk about now very quickly,

736
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 2: is that it is the first Saturday in May, and

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00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: that means one other sporting event which is obviously a

738
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: staple of this day on the calendar, and that's the

739
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 2: Kentucky Derby as well, Chris Purfett. That's actually where I

740
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: wanted to go there, So Major wins the Kentucky Derby,

741
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: but I bring it up. So I was driving around today,

742
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: actually I was listening to a little bit of Steve

743
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 2: Hartman and Bucky Brooks who were on their earlier and

744
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 2: they kind of just talked about the sport of horse racing.

745
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 2: This was a sport of kings. It was once, you know,

746
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: one of the premier sports in America, boxing, baseball. I mean,

747
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: this was decades ago now, but but you know, before

748
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 2: college football became what it was, before the NBA, the

749
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: NFL came became what they are, it was horse racing, boxing,

750
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 2: and major League baseball in some order. I just feel

751
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 2: like every year this is not if if you love

752
00:35:57,440 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: horse racing. I'm not saying you shouldn't enjoy the Kentucky

753
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,760
Speaker 2: Derby or the Freakness or any race that you're watching.

754
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: It just feels to me though Jason, Like every year

755
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 2: it becomes a little bit less relevant.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 2: I really woke up today not even being fully aware

758
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 2: it was Kentucky Derby Saturday. I mean I kind of knew,

759
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: but it just wasn't something that was on my radar.

760
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 2: Is this just a sport to you that feels less

761
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 2: and less significant as the years go on.

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00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it just seems it seems very antiquated.

763
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: It seems like something you watch in movies now, but

764
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: into movies about the past. It's not things that are

765
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: happening in the present. Even though look, we had that

766
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: crazy finish a couple of years ago, we had the

767
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: disqualified horse. Mage was I think seventeen to one. But

768
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: if you saw the video, because I actually watched the

769
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 1: last hour of coverage before the race, and I'll explain

770
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: why in a second, but Mage was out of control

771
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 1: earlier in the day, like couldn't keep the horse under wraps,

772
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: bouncing all over the place and crazy, and we talked

773
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: to the train or a trainer's like, oh, he's just

774
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: excited and all this ends up winning the race. I

775
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: sent you in a text message earlier about this, when

776
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: we were talking about how we were gonna address the

777
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: Derby was it feels like you're watching The Great Gatsby.

778
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't even feel like real life anymore. It does.

779
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: It seems like a movie. It seems like a rich

780
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 1: like a rich person's playground that has no bearing on

781
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: anything approaching reality. Look at the way people are dressed.

782
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: It's like the Hunger Games in the Capitol. Look at

783
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: me Julip's. Look at all the tradition, look at everything surrounding.

784
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 1: It's it's almost as ridiculous as the met Gala. It's

785
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: just it looks preposterous on TV, and I do think

786
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: it's just. Here's why I watched it, So I watched

787
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: the last hour. Now, I always generally will tune in

788
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: right around the time of the race and watch that

789
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: couple of minutes to see what happens. It's thrilling to

790
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 1: watch it always is. It's cool when they come down

791
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: the stretch and everything else. The reason I turned it

792
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: on early is because I have a two year old

793
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: daughter who loves animals, and she just started pointing at

794
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 1: every horse and going nay, and she wins like she's

795
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: going to win. So I flipped it over and I

796
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: watched extra coverage that we could see all the horses

797
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,680
Speaker 1: go in and I could point at them, we could

798
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: have a moment with us as a family. My wife

799
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: rode horses growing up, so she was able to talk

800
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: about it a little bit and stuff like that. So

801
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: we did it as a family today. But not because

802
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: I was super interested in the sport. The other thing

803
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: it had going for it was there was almost nothing

804
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: else to watch at that point in time, Like most

805
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: of the PM stuff hadn't even started, most of the

806
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: early baseball was done. There was nothing else to attract

807
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: your attention. I went to the gym earlier today and

808
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: there was f one on one channel, and then there

809
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: was some sport I didn't even know existed, I think,

810
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: on another channel. So it's not like this was a

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00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: banner day from They weren't going against the NBA. They

812
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: weren't going against the NFL. They were going against the

813
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: end of an NBA playoff game. But it wasn't a

814
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 1: game that was all at close. So you look at

815
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: all of that, I would just suggest that horse racing

816
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be more like unless you have

817
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: action on it. I just don't know how you could

818
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: possibly care outside of just I'll see what horse wins.

819
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,280
Speaker 1: But they had like twenty analysts Aaron given their predictions.

820
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: Some of them are just celebrities, like you know, they

821
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: have no interest at all in horse racing, know nothing

822
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: about it. One of them said, well, my dog's name

823
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: is this, so I'm picking this horse. And then they

824
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: go back to Tariko, the consummate professional, who says a

825
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: lot of very very valid reasons why you would choose

826
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Speaker 1: the horse you chose, And I was just like, maybe

827
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: you missed that one, Mike.

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Speaker 2: He probably was checked out. Yeah, it's interesting. Is is

829
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 2: sometimes you know, we do you know, we talk all

830
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 2: these topics and we talk everything, and everybody asks, you know,

831
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 2: there's certain things like, oh, you know, what can you

832
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 2: do to make it this or make it that. It's like,

833
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think horse racing like it's just I

834
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: don't think there's something that can be done right, Like

835
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: major League Baseball. How do we get more people involved?

836
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: You put the pitch clock in, you do this, you

837
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 2: do that, college basketball, you schedule these games here or whatever.

838
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make horse racing feels like

839
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 2: it will never be a thing other than people that

840
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 2: bet at three hundred and sixty five days a year,

841
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 2: or if you live in an area with a horse

842
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: track or whatever, and you might tune in, as you said,

843
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: for an hour for the Kentucky Derby, an hour for

844
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 2: the Preakness or whatever. But I just don't think it's

845
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: going to matter, Nashally. I also think, by the way,

846
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: the proliferation of sports betting, like it used to be

847
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: a big thing. Oh, I'm gonna bet bet the Kentucky Derby.

848
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 2: Now you can bet a you know, a Bucks Pelicans

849
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: game on a Tuesday. It just, yeah, it just doesn't

850
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 2: feel like it's as important as socially relevant. But Kentucky

851
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: Derby was today, obviously the Preakness in a few weeks.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aertorus, Jason Martin, Coming up Lakers Warriors

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859
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 2: about eight minutes left in this Lakers game. Lakers up

860
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: on Golden State ninety eight to seventy two, Lakers in

861
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: ninety eight to seventy three. Excuse me, Lakers incomplete control.

862
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: Jason will have full reaction to this game when it

863
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: goes final. But I do very quickly want to discuss

864
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: something that happened today because if the Lakers do hold

865
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 2: on for Game three, is not the only big win

866
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: or big news coming out of the James family on

867
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 2: Saturday night. So for people who missed it, and I

868
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 2: don't think most people did, I heard Disager's obviously shared

869
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: the news. I heard Martin VJ I believe talk about

870
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 2: it a little bit in the previous show. But Lebron

871
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: James's oldest son, Bronnie James Junior, he is a senior

872
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 2: in high school at Sierra Canyon High School and he

873
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:53,800
Speaker 2: did make his college commitment. He is headed to USC

874
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: Apparently at this Lakers game. Andy Enfield, the USC coach,

875
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 2: was shown on the Jumpbotron Bronni was shown on the

876
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 2: jumbo tron, although not together. Jason, I got a lot

877
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 2: of thoughts about Bronnie going to USC. Do you have

878
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 2: any initial thoughts on what will honestly be probably the

879
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 2: most high profile player in college basketball next year.

880
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: Jason. I mean, it's obviously going to be something. It's

881
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: kind of amazing You're getting Brownie and you're getting arch

882
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: manning same time. Yeah, at the same time, You're getting

883
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: two very big names from two huge families, and every

884
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: eye is going to be on both of them. But

885
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm actually from here. I actually am most interested to

886
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say, being the college guru

887
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: that you are and how closely you pay attention to everything.

888
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: I do have some thoughts, but I actually want to

889
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: see the Florida you first and hear what you have

890
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: to say.

891
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: All right, well, I'll try not to go too long here.

892
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,920
Speaker 2: By the way, Laker's up by twenty eight points with

893
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: seven minutes left. And it's interesting because I'll say this

894
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 2: is I remember, probably about a year ago or so,

895
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit more recently, I went on with

896
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 2: Bernie Fridda, who obviously follows us, because Bernie was interested

897
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 2: in this recruitment, and what I can say definitively is

898
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: this was probably one of the more unique high profile

899
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 2: recruitments really in recent college basketball history, and I think

900
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: it's important to note a few things on Bronnie is

901
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 2: that he's a really good player. He you know, he's

902
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: a five star player, you know, top twenty five or

903
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: so in the country. I think anybody that's going to

904
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 2: tune in next year to see him, expecting his dad,

905
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,439
Speaker 2: he's the furthest thing from it. He's a different type

906
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 2: of player, different body frame. He's about six foot three,

907
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: combo guard, can play on and off the ball. But

908
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: what I respect about him a lot is this is

909
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: that that he's a kid. And I'm not going to

910
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: claim that I know him well because frankly, I don't

911
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: think anybody in the media has any real relationship with him,

912
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: because I think the family protects him as they should.

913
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: The thing I respect about him is he works really

914
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: hard and I had you know, I did get a

915
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 2: chance to see him early in his high school career,

916
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: and you could see his time went on, how much

917
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 2: more skilled he's gotten, how he's kind of built into

918
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 2: his body, all that stuff. And so I respect that

919
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: he's not a kid that's just playing basketball because that's

920
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: what his dad does, or playing basketball and expecting to

921
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 2: kind of play off his dad's name. I think he

922
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: really is trying to kind of build a you know,

923
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: a platform for himself and earn what is coming to him,

924
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: and he earned that scholarship to USC where it was

925
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: really interesting though, is kind of some of the stuff

926
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 2: that Lebron has said about, you know, really wanting to

927
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 2: play with him when he gets the NBA. And Lebron

928
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: has said, you know, like so many people about my

929
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: age and his age, his favorite athlete growing up was

930
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: Ken Griffy Junior, and Ken Griffy Junior played with his

931
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: dad when he was in the major leagues. And Lebron

932
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 2: wants that for his son. And why that's interesting is

933
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 2: because most don't view his son as like a one

934
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 2: and done, can't miss NBA player. And so it's a

935
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:52,440
Speaker 2: couple interesting parallels because one, when Bronni does enter the

936
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: NBA draft, keep in mind that Lebron is technically a

937
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 2: free agent after next season. He literally structured his contract

938
00:44:58,080 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 2: so he can be a free agent when Bronni enters

939
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 2: the league. So I think one, there's that interesting perspective

940
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: of do teams really feel like if if they draft Bronni,

941
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 2: that they're gonna have a chance to sign Lebron. I mean,

942
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: if you're the you know, Minnesota Timberwolves or something, or

943
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 2: the Utah Jazz and you don't have much going for you.

944
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 2: Is this a way to potentially get Lebron. Maybe it is,

945
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 2: maybe it isn't. But it also kind of, you know,

946
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to say, kind of screwed up his

947
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: recruitment because it didn't. He ended up in a good spot,

948
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: but I think it made some schools hesitant of like,

949
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: we got to make sure that if we if we

950
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: sign him, if we bring him into our program, that

951
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 2: there's a spot for him, because he's he's not a

952
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,879
Speaker 2: one and done player. He's not an instant impact guy.

953
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 2: He's not a you know, fill in the blank, John Wall,

954
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: Polo Banco, whatever, And so I think there's a lot

955
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: of schools that that would have been interested in him

956
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 2: if his name was you know, Jason James and Aaron

957
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: James and he was just a high four star, low

958
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,480
Speaker 2: five star guy. But because you have to make sure

959
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 2: that there's a spot for him because and I don't

960
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 2: think Lebron like like pulled you know, pulled rank or

961
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: anything like that. But essentially it was kind of the

962
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,799
Speaker 2: perfect fit. It's it's in La. The family could keep

963
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 2: an eye on him and us. He has a real

964
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 2: need they have. They have a very good backcourt with

965
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 2: Boogie Ellis, they're leading scorers back Isaiah Collier, who's actually

966
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: the number two player in this senior class, is coming.

967
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 2: But they lost a couple other guards and wings to

968
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 2: the transfer portal, and there is a spot for Bronnie

969
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 2: James and so I don't think he takes USC to

970
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 2: another level, but I think it's a good fit for

971
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: him from a basketball perspective, and then obviously from staying

972
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 2: close to home, you know, having his parents be able

973
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: to keep an eye on him. Like I said, they

974
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: keep a close circle around him, don't let too many

975
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: people get in that inner circle. It just ended up

976
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 2: fitting really well, I think for everybody involved. And now

977
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 2: we get to see how it all unfolds over the

978
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 2: next year or so.

979
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think all that's well said. I think

980
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: that I mean, you look at Arch and you look

981
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 1: at a guy that was the five star, was all

982
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: of those things. Then you look at Brownie and you

983
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: feel both well, I don't know, I mean, you feel

984
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: good for him, but you also realize there's a lot

985
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: of pressure on him, and there's a lot of pressure

986
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: on whoever brings him in. Yep, you can't bring in

987
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: the son of Lebron James and put him on the bench,

988
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: not with Lebron and his wishes and what he wants

989
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: to do with him hopefully in the NBA if Lebron's

990
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,919
Speaker 1: health holds up and he's still playing in a few

991
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: years and everything else. But the difference there is we

992
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 1: think at least, I mean, we'll have to see it

993
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: on the college level. But to this point, there's nothing

994
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: to tell us really that arch Manning is not an

995
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: outstanding player. Bronnie James is pretty good. He's good. We

996
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: do you have eleven four and three. I think we're

997
00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: his averages or something like that. He certainly has the

998
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: genes and perhaps he's gonna grow into it. But I

999
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: remember when Michael Jordan's son went to Illinois, and it

1000
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: was kind of similar, other than we knew he wasn't

1001
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: going to be a star. Like we understand that Bronni

1002
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,919
Speaker 1: has a good chance to play an NBA and all this,

1003
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: but this is by no means like a slam dunk

1004
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,200
Speaker 1: no pun intended going to sc and still being out

1005
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: there in southern California. It makes all the sense in

1006
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: the world, just for that fan base to just rally

1007
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: around the entire family for the next couple of years,

1008
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens after that. It's going

1009
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: to be a fascinating case study because whoever it was,

1010
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: whether it were the other schools, I think it was

1011
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Oregon maybe because of the Nike tie, and then it

1012
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: was based on or Ohio State.

1013
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Oregon again, And that's another variable that you know,

1014
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 2: it's kind of inside baseball. But obviously Lebron having a

1015
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 2: lifetime contract with Nike, they're not going to send them

1016
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: to you know, Kansas which is in Adida School, or

1017
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 2: Louisville which is in Adida School or whatever. So yes,

1018
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: it seemed like those were the three. Oregon because of

1019
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: the Nike ties, Ohio State because of the Ohio ties

1020
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: with the family in USC as well.

1021
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean, any those schools are schools that

1022
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: certainly have had their moments, but there are also schools

1023
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: that are more second tier compared to your They're certainly

1024
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: not blue bloods when it comes to the sport of

1025
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: college basketball on a regular basis. So it's a good

1026
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: place and it makes sense to be NSC and be

1027
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: right there near lebron there's a bit of a synergy there,

1028
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: but again it's I'm not gonna be able to take

1029
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: my eyes off the bottom line, at least in terms

1030
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,879
Speaker 1: of the scoring and whatever he's able to do while

1031
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: he's there. And there's gonna be a giant microscope on

1032
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: USC's basketball program. It's gonna be something they have really

1033
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: experienced on a national basis. It's gonna be similar to

1034
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: what Colorado is about to experience with Dion Sanders and

1035
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,280
Speaker 1: people actually paying attention to what they're doing in college

1036
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: football for the first time in a long time because

1037
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,799
Speaker 1: of a new factor. Bronni is a factor unlike anybody

1038
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,919
Speaker 1: else could be right now in college basketball, not because

1039
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: he's the best player, but because of his last name.

1040
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and we'll talk about Dion later on in this hour,

1041
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: but I would add I think the arch Manning stuff

1042
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 2: is fair because the one thing I will say is

1043
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: I do give credit to both families. I mean, we

1044
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 2: saw the story a couple weeks ago that arch Manning

1045
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 2: isn't taking any nil until he earns the starting spot,

1046
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 2: and his recruitment was very hush hush, And you know

1047
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: the vibes that I'm getting around Bronnie and this recruitment

1048
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 2: were that it was the family is involved, But I

1049
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: don't think it's as you know, nuanced and as complex

1050
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,720
Speaker 2: as everybody like like, oh, you know, rich Paul Lebron's

1051
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,279
Speaker 2: agent must be pulling this, Like I haven't gotten the

1052
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 2: vibe that it's that. And as a matter of fact,

1053
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 2: if you go to his time at Sierra Canyon, you know,

1054
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 2: I remember going there during his freshman year and everybody

1055
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,200
Speaker 2: knew Bronni. But but he was essentially a role player.

1056
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 2: He played with bj Boston who ended up playing at

1057
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 2: Kentucky's Ire Williams who's in the NBA, Amari Bailey who

1058
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,800
Speaker 2: just played at UCLA this year and declared for the draft.

1059
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: Like he was very much a part of the team.

1060
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 2: It wasn't about him, and I think the family was

1061
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 2: okay with it. I think the family wasn't trying to

1062
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: put him in a position where everything was expected and

1063
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 2: handed to him. And so I think that's where the

1064
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 2: parallel with Arch is now. Arch is a little bit

1065
00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: more more relative to his class, high profile. Arch was

1066
00:51:02,560 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: the number one player in America. Bronni isn't that. But

1067
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: I will say very quickly as I do give credit

1068
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: to both families. Is I think that, you know, maybe

1069
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 2: a little protective. I don't know if that's a fair

1070
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: word or not, but I think that that, you know,

1071
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 2: they they understand the spotlight that to your point, Jason

1072
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: comes with the name, and so because of it, again,

1073
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 2: they've kept a lot of stuff very close to the vest.

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00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:29,280
Speaker 2: With Bronni, I think, you know, I know the usc

1075
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: PR people over there, I think it'll be very interesting

1076
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: the requests that they feel and what they say yes

1077
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,360
Speaker 2: to and what they say no to next year. But

1078
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 2: I do give lebron credit because at least at Sierra Canyon,

1079
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: there was never demands for anything, And I think that's

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00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: the way, honestly, that's the way it should be handled.

1081
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: But obviously, when you're one of the two or three

1082
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 2: greatest basketball players that's ever lived, people think that expectations

1083
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 2: might be different.

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Speaker 1: Jason, Yeah, and you mentioned number one for arch and

1085
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not we're we're not really trying to

1086
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: say anything negative about Bronnie except that he's not the

1087
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: number one player in America. He's like what nineteenth twentieth

1088
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: somewhere in that neighborhood, depending on what service you look

1089
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 1: at he's a good player. Like we're certainly not saying

1090
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: that he's not a guy that deserves to have an

1091
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: opportunity or will or won't start or whatever like that.

1092
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: But at the same time, we know where he is

1093
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: going and where he's not going, and there is something

1094
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: to that. And I don't buy into the rich Paul,

1095
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 1: you know, putting his finger on the scale thing or

1096
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 1: anything else. There was even talk about lebron or Bronni

1097
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: skipping college and doing the pro thing and then going

1098
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: into the draft after that. I appreciate that Bronni's just

1099
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: going to go to school and he'll be there for

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Speaker 1: a few years. It'll be high profile, it'll be and

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00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: it's it's I honestly think it's a win win for

1102
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 1: USC because it's not like they had championship aspirations right now,

1103
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: whether he came there or not. So and without the

1104
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 1: tradition that their football program, for example, has, you can

1105
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: bring in a Bronni and just ignite the the interest

1106
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,280
Speaker 1: level in the program and if it works out, great,

1107
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't, you've still had a whole lot

1108
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: of eyeballs on the program. It's not gonna reflect badly

1109
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,920
Speaker 1: on USC. Brownni's just gonna be under an intense microscope.

1110
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 1: It's gonna have nothing to do with USC. They're just

1111
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: gonna reap the benefits of having a superstar name on

1112
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:19,720
Speaker 1: their team that everybody's gonna want to see.

1113
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 2: Last thought, as by the way, the Lakers game is

1114
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: coming down to a final, we will discuss it next.

1115
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:28,600
Speaker 2: I'll say this, Jason, I don't feel great about the

1116
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 2: future of the Pac twelve as a conference, but this

1117
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,440
Speaker 2: might be the final year the Pac twelve, certainly as

1118
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 2: we know it. With USC and UCLA heading out to

1119
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: the Big Ten. If you're gonna go down, they're going

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00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: out with a bang next year with probably the most

1121
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Speaker 2: high profile player in college basketball. Fox Sports Radio Era

1122
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot com studios.

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00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: When we come back, we will react to this Lakers game.

1124
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,760
Speaker 2: It is coming down the home stretch and the Lakers

1125
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 2: in complete control. We discuss what it means for the Lakers,

1126
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,319
Speaker 2: for the Warriors, and for this series. That's next. Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Welcome back, everybody. Fox Sports Radio, Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 2: have a final in the NBA, and if you have

1135
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: the Lakers minus thirty one and a half thirty and

1136
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 2: a half, this is a tough beat for you. How

1137
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:49,479
Speaker 2: about this Lakers one twenty seven, Warriors ninety seven, Jason Martin,

1138
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 2: How about this Golden State is up by seven at

1139
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: after the first quarter, which means that I'm not great

1140
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 2: at math. The Lakers one by thirty one. By thirty

1141
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: they have scored it by thirty seven points. Is my

1142
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: math corrected by that dumb It's gotta be a right?

1143
00:55:05,239 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 2: Thirty seven points in the final three quarters, an absolute

1144
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 2: bloodbath as the Lakers win by thirty at the Staples Center.

1145
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: Jason right, it's Crypto dot com Marine. I apologize. I'm

1146
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: so sorry.

1147
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: Remember after Game two, although the Warriors are just they

1148
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: played at a different speed than the Los Angeles Lakers do

1149
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: and it was another blowout. So tonight you get a

1150
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: thirty point game. Anthony Davis back to Game one, twenty

1151
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,280
Speaker 1: five and thirteen tonight, four blocks, three assists, and three steals.

1152
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,360
Speaker 1: He and Lebron combined to shoot only twenty one shots

1153
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 1: in the game, and they accounted for forty six points.

1154
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: And then you give di'angelo Russell twenty one points on

1155
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: thirteen shots, including five of eight from distance. That's how

1156
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 1: you win. The Warriors got absolutely slacked in the second half.

1157
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: They got as close as ten, and then the Lakers

1158
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 1: blew it back up to sixteen. I mean, Lebron in

1159
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: the fourth order never even had to unzip the jacket,

1160
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 1: like he just sat there and enjoyed it. And then

1161
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: they put ad on the bench pretty quickly thereafter. And

1162
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: this was one of the like just watching this, Lebron

1163
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: played thirty two minutes I remember, like one of them.

1164
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: Like it was one of the most the easiest performances

1165
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: I've ever seen from him, because he was almost not

1166
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: even needed, like he was there, but it was just like,

1167
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: all right, yep, he's just kind of doing the thing

1168
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: that he's doing. Then you look up at the stat

1169
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: line and he ends up with twenty one, eight and eight,

1170
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: So he has a solid night. This was just the

1171
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Lakers at home dominating the Warriors, who again are awful

1172
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: on the road. They are now eleven and thirty on

1173
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: the road this season, so it shouldn't come as a

1174
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: surprise that they lost. But anybody getting beat by thirty

1175
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: at this level in the playoffs, especially the defending champions

1176
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: and guys that have multiple rings on that side, that

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00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: is a thorough beating and a really nice sign for

1178
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:00,359
Speaker 1: the Lakers, who I think if they go up three

1179
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: to one, this series is over because I don't think

1180
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: Golden State's gonna beat LA three times.

1181
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's interesting, right because obviously you look at

1182
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: the final score and you know to the victor's go

1183
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 2: the Spoils. But to me, the more interesting story in

1184
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: this game is actually from the Warriors' perspective, because I

1185
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 2: just think that there are certain times, Jason and you

1186
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: and I've been watching sports long enough to know, is

1187
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: that I think we get the impression that something is

1188
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 2: a certain way and that a team, oh, they've got

1189
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: that champion. You know what this almost reminds me of

1190
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: And it's not an apples to apples thing, but remember

1191
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 2: this year when like Tom Brady would have a bad game,

1192
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: people would be like, oh, you know, it's it's Tom Brady.

1193
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 2: You can't bet against Tom Brady. And then like at

1194
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 2: a certain point, you're like, tom Brady just looks old

1195
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: and washed up. And by the way, he was forty

1196
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: five years old. It's okay to be old. He's going

1197
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 2: through some personal stuff. But I bring it up because

1198
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 2: there are times where like we just want this to

1199
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Speaker 2: be Oh, you can't bet against this guy, can't bet

1200
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: against that guy, And it's like, well, I think he can,

1201
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 2: and I think until they prove me wrong. That's where

1202
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 2: we are with the war Warriors. And this is no disrespect.

1203
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 2: It's not to tarnish all the other championships that they've won,

1204
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 2: but this year, first of all, they played late into

1205
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: the postseason. Last year obviously won a title, so you're

1206
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 2: playing into mid June for a bunch of older guys.

1207
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 2: You have the offseason altercation or the preseason altercation between

1208
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 2: Draymond Green and Jordan Poole. They're a team that hasn't

1209
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: been good on the road all year. They're a team

1210
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 2: that needed seven games to beat the Sacramento Kings, and

1211
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: credit to them for winning game seven on the road.

1212
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 2: But obviously if Steph Curry doesn't go crazy whatever, And

1213
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 2: so now you're down two to one. You got largely

1214
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 2: outplayed in game one. Game two you come out and

1215
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: do what you do, and then game three you get

1216
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: largely outplayed for three quarters as well. Like, I just

1217
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 2: think we're now to the point with the Warriors. You

1218
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 2: have an eighty two game regular season sample size, and

1219
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: we now have a ten game postseason sample size. Like

1220
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 2: if you just expect this team to flip a switch.

1221
00:58:50,080 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying they can't come back and win

1222
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: three out of the next five games in this series,

1223
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 2: two or three out of the next four, whatever it

1224
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: would be to win in advance. But what I just

1225
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 2: think we have ten games sample size that like, this

1226
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 2: is not the team that it has been in the past.

1227
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: And it's not just from a talent perspective. They just

1228
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 2: don't have kind of that killer that ability. I don't know,

1229
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 2: it's just they're just not the team that we've seen,

1230
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 2: even as recently as last Juniorjays.

1231
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,439
Speaker 1: No, that's right. I mean could they get it done, yes,

1232
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: could they win the championship, yes, I don't think they're

1233
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: going to Last year, it didn't catch me nearly as

1234
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: surprising as it would this time around. They're a year older.

1235
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned, they're bad on the road. I don't

1236
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: think that's all of a sudden going to change. I

1237
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,160
Speaker 1: think there is something functionally about the roster right now

1238
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: that just doesn't play well away from home, and they're

1239
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: running into guys that are younger, that are bigger, and

1240
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: that might actually be a little bit hungrier.

1241
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 1: This is a Golden State Golden State right now. Obviously

1243
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: they don't have the full tradition, but just like recent recently,

1244
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 1: like I don't know what college team would you think

1245
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: they kind of remind you of, how if you could

1246
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: come up with one, I mean I would think of

1247
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 1: I would think of one that's won titles. I'd think

1248
01:00:03,280 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: of something like Villanova.

1249
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah, I thought you're gonna like with an

1250
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 2: album of football analogy.

1251
01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: No, I'm kind of going with the college basketball analogy

1252
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 1: in that, as Giannis actually pointed out, you can't win

1253
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: it every year, right, But Golden State has kind of

1254
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 1: become royalty. That's why everybody tunes in. They've become a

1255
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: ratings sugar, not the for the NBA when a lot

1256
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: of other teams don't get you to tune in to TV.

1257
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: The Warriors did, and the Warriors Lakers was a dream

1258
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: come true for all TV executives, to say the least.

1259
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 1: But this Golden State team, it's like, this is not

1260
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: the one for five years ago. It's not the one

1261
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: that still has Kevin Durant, and it's the one that's

1262
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: a little bit streaky and not as solid defensively as

1263
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: they were in those title years. And they're playing against

1264
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 1: a Lakers team that's been reconfigured, that seems to have

1265
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:51,960
Speaker 1: the right chemistry mix. And if they get by the Lakers,

1266
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: if you end up seeing Denver, for example, Denver's just

1267
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: so solid. I look at that matchup and think the

1268
01:00:58,560 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: Nuggets should beat Golden State. But I also look at

1269
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: this matchup and think, yeah, the Lakers should too. But

1270
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: I think the thing that kind of makes us interested

1271
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: is we have seen the Warriors do this undertaker style

1272
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 1: in the past, where it looks like they're done and

1273
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: they find a way out of it. Famously, three to

1274
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 1: one down against Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook came back and

1275
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: beat the Thunder four games to three, and then just

1276
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 1: last week we both picked them to beat Sacramento, even

1277
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 1: though we at least I said, and I think you

1278
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: did too, I want to pick Sacramento. I just think

1279
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,120
Speaker 1: there's something about the Warriors that will get this done.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll feel that way necessarily against the Lakers,

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Speaker 1: because the difference is the Lakers have guys that have

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Speaker 1: been there before too, and Sacramento did not.

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Speaker 2: The word do you use that I think stands out

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Speaker 2: to me is size. And it's just, you know, when

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Speaker 2: I was kind of breaking down this series, and I

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Speaker 2: did like the Lakers, it's because one what I just

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Speaker 2: said with the Warriors, but two, I do think that

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Speaker 2: size does tend to wear on a team like Golden State.

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Speaker 2: And yes, there's the speed in the quickness and as

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Speaker 2: you say, oh, they're playing at a different level or

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Speaker 2: different speed of the game, whatever, but it's like those

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Speaker 2: big bodies wear on you, and they wear on Draymond Green.

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Speaker 2: And when you know you could put a six to

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Speaker 2: seven Jared Vanderbilt, six to eight Jared vandermilt on Klay

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Speaker 2: Thompson or whoever that wears on you, Ruy hot Chimore

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Speaker 2: wears on you, you just look at the Lakers. They're just

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Speaker 2: a big team. And I think that size is gonna

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Speaker 2: eventually wear down Golden State. It certainly did tonight as

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Speaker 2: the Lakers win by thirty, yes, thirty points. Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio Air towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the tiraq

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Speaker 2: dot com studios. Coming up, we do want to hit

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Speaker 2: on the big topic in college football this week, Deon

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Speaker 2: Sanders doing something we've never seen before.

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Speaker 1: Is it gonna work?

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Speaker 3: Is it not?

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Speaker 2: We discussed that next first of Let's toss over the

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Speaker 2: news dd Stevid Sager, what's trendy?

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Speaker 7: Blowout win for the Lakers one twenty seven to ninety

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Speaker 7: seven over Golden State to go up two games to

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Speaker 7: one in this second round NBA playoff series. Remember how

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Speaker 7: awful the defense was in the middle quarters last game

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Speaker 7: when LA got blown out. They allowed over eighty points

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 7: in the middle two quarters. They allowed under forty points

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Speaker 7: in the middle two quarters combined tonight, and you mentioned

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Speaker 7: Lebron James a quiet night. He did not attempt a

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Speaker 7: shot in the first quarter, did not have to play

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Speaker 7: full minutes in this blowout win, and still finish with

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Speaker 7: twenty one points, eight rebounds, eight assists, no turnovers at

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Speaker 7: the foul line, Lakers seventy five percent Golden State seventy

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01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:28,880
Speaker 7: percent shooting from the stripe, but the amount of free

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Speaker 7: throws the big difference. Golden State twelve of seventeen on

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 7: free throws, Lakers twenty eight for thirty seven on free throws.

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Speaker 7: You mentioned the comeback after being down in the first quarter,

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Speaker 7: the Lakers were actually down eleven. In the second they

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 7: were down forty to twenty nine. So do that math

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Speaker 7: and the rest of the way. Lakers outscored him by

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01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:53,280
Speaker 7: more than forty ninety eight to fifty seven. The rest

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Speaker 7: of the way Anthony Davis with twenty five points thirteen rebounds,

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Speaker 7: Lakers up two games to one the Draymond Green by

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Speaker 7: the way. In the loss for the Warriors, five fouls,

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Speaker 7: two points, one of four shooting, four assists. To the

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Speaker 7: Stanley Cup playoffs, Edmonton tied at a game apiece now

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Speaker 7: after winning five to one at Vegas Mage one the

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Speaker 7: Kentucky Derby NASCAR's on FS one tomorrow from Kansas, three

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Speaker 7: pm Eastern time. To baseball. In the late games, Texas

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Speaker 7: Rangers lead four to nothing in Anaheim, top of the

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Speaker 7: ninth against the Angels to the eighth. Houston Astros up

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Speaker 7: three to nothing at the Mariners. Dodgers had won two

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Speaker 7: to one at San Diego dustin May four and one

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01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,479
Speaker 7: got the victory Chris Taylor a two run homer. Red

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Speaker 7: Sox won their eighth in a row seven to four

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Speaker 7: at Philadelphia. Atlanta beat Baltimore five to four on a

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Speaker 7: two run homer. Bottom of the eighth Pittsburgh lost at

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Speaker 7: sixth in a row. Milwaukee lost at sixth in a row.

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Speaker 7: Miami lost its fifth straight game, and today Saint Louis

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01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 7: lost its eighth game in a row in ten innings.

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Speaker 7: Detroit six ' five over the Cardinals the final, and

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Speaker 7: Saint Louis is moving newcatcher Wilson Contreras to the field.

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Speaker 7: Dh NBA Lakers win by thirty Game four and the

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Speaker 7: best of seven, also in La late Monday night, and

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01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 7: by the way in the East, the eight seed Miami

1352
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 7: is leading the series against New York after beating up

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Speaker 7: the Knicks one oh five eighty six today two games

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01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 7: to one advantage for the heat picked.

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Speaker 2: You, Thank you very much, Steve de Seger, Fox Sports Radio,

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01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:25,919
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Saturday, Aaron Torris, Jason Martin broadcasting live from

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com studios. Before we get to

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01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 2: the Dion Sander, we did get a tweet Jason from

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01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: the Villain you Need says they being obviously Golden State

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01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:38,919
Speaker 2: one two on the road in the first round. Are

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Speaker 2: you and your partner forgetting that? Well, No, Jason, I'm

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01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: not forgetting that they won two on the road in

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: the first round. I would also say de Aaron Fox

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01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 2: was pretty banged up when two of those wins happened.

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Speaker 2: I would also say they could have clinched it at

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 2: home in Game six and didn't get the job done.

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Speaker 2: I would also say they literally needed, by definition, the

1368
01:06:00,240 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 2: greatest Game seven in the history of the sport from

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01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 2: by Steph Curry fifty points to put them away. So

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Speaker 2: it's not saying like the It's not say the Warriors

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01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,000
Speaker 2: are bad. It's just to say, I don't think like

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Speaker 2: if you just think they're gonna flip a switch because

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01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,080
Speaker 2: they've won a bunch of titles in the past, this team, Jason,

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Speaker 2: to me, just doesn't feel like that group.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that they haven't won on the road.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying they've won ten games this entire year on

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Speaker 1: the road, so it's not as likely that they are

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Speaker 1: going to win on the road, and most teams play

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01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 1: better at home they do on the road, but the

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01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: Warriors have one of the worst, if not the worst.

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01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: It's like the second worst road record in the league.

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01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,760
Speaker 1: So this is just based on the season as a whole.

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01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 1: They have not done well away from home. They were

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Speaker 1: in a position where, especially after Game one, you don't

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, you don't necessarily have to just keep on

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 1: winning at home, but unfortunately you gave that right up

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01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 1: in Game two. So now you have to find a

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01:07:05,080 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: way to get one on the road. And again, if

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Speaker 1: you fall behind three to one, if you lose on Monday,

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Speaker 1: which I'm not gonna say you are, I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: if Golden State loses on Monday and it's down three

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Speaker 1: to one to Lebron James and Anthony Davis and that

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Speaker 1: Lakers team, I just don't see Golden State coming back

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Speaker 1: from three to one. To me, game four feels like

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Speaker 1: a must for Golden State. There are some teams that

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Speaker 1: I could see maybe coming back from three to one,

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Speaker 1: this is just not one of them. Not the way

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Speaker 1: this matchup is stacked up. I just don't think one

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Speaker 1: of these teams is gonna dominate three games in a

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01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 1: row real quick.

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Speaker 2: Has anything does tonight or anything you've seen fundamentally change

1403
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 2: how you view the Lakers, because I will say, you know,

1404
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: I remember being I was on air with Arnie Spaniard

1405
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: during the playing game against Minnesota where they barely survived,

1406
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: and even if they had lost that game, they would

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01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: have been able to play their way in you know,

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01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,160
Speaker 2: a couple nights. But I remember watching that team. They

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01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 2: looked uninspired, they looked whatever, and I just said, this

1410
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: does not look like a team that's good enough to

1411
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 2: really make a run in these playoffs. And I will

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Speaker 2: say that opening round against Memphis, it really did change.

1413
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 2: It really did change how I feel about this team.

1414
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're the favorite, I don't know

1415
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 2: if they're gonna win it, but I like them coming

1416
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 2: into this series, and I do think i'd probably like

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01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: them in a matchup with either obviously Denver or Phoenix

1418
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 2: in the next round. Just whether it's tonight, whether it's

1419
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 2: the totality of this run in the playoffs so far,

1420
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 2: do you feel differently about the Lakers than you did

1421
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 2: maybe even two or three weeks ago.

1422
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: I don't know about like dramatically different because down the

1423
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,680
Speaker 1: stretch of the season we saw them coming together, and

1424
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: especially watching them in the first round and watching them

1425
01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: in this series. When they're on, they are incredibly dangerous,

1426
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: but just like everybody else, they have consistency issues. I mean,

1427
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: you don't get beat the way they got beat in

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01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: Game two. And the problem, again is your second superstar,

1429
01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis. It's just not somebody I can count on

1430
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: day today. If he shows up the way he has

1431
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: in Game one and Game three, and his talent will

1432
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: tell you he's capable of absolutely they could win it all.

1433
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 1: And they may win it all. I mean they certainly,

1434
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: you can easily make that case. That's the thing, though,

1435
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: I don't feel different about them, just because I still

1436
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: feel the same about Anthony Davis. I feel more secure

1437
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: about the guys that they have acquired right now, and

1438
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: I feel better about what those guys can give you

1439
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,519
Speaker 1: on a night tonight basis than I do ad because

1440
01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:37,800
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, because Game two is as

1441
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,440
Speaker 1: likely as Games one in three were for his performance

1442
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: and for his stat line, So I think drawing any

1443
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 1: kind of conclusions about Anthony Davis is a fool's errand

1444
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,240
Speaker 1: and so I refuse to do it. I still feel

1445
01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: the same way about the Lakers. They are good enough

1446
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 1: when they're on to win it all. I don't know

1447
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: how I would feel about them against the Nuggets and

1448
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:00,880
Speaker 1: the Suns. I think I would pick Denver Phoenix. I'd

1449
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 1: have to think long and hard about but I think

1450
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,400
Speaker 1: both those series would be excellent.

1451
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,880
Speaker 2: I do too. The Lakers did take a two to

1452
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 2: one series lead, thirty point win tonight. Tell you what,

1453
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: we'll come back. We'll talk a little bit about our guy,

1454
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 2: coach Prime, Dion Sanders. We talked about him when he

1455
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,679
Speaker 2: was hired, we talked about him after the spring game.

1456
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:22,479
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna talk about everything that has happened since

1457
01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 2: the spring game. Numbers that will blow you away. Can

1458
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 2: it work? Coach Prime Colorado will discuss that next Fox

1459
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio. Aaron Torris,

1460
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 2: Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee Tireck dot Com studios,

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01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,439
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Speaker 2: All right, Jason, So before the break, we obviously listen

1466
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:01,679
Speaker 2: story of the night Lakers win by thirty against the Warriors.

1467
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 2: If you missed any of our conversation on that, make

1468
01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,160
Speaker 2: sure to go back and download the podcast. We'll obviously

1469
01:11:06,200 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 2: be hitting on it throughout the rest of the show.

1470
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 2: We are on air until two am Eastern time. But

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01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,639
Speaker 2: I want to switch gears, Jason to what has quickly

1472
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 2: become I think, you know, one of the bigger stories

1473
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 2: in all of sports, and certainly the biggest story in

1474
01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 2: college football right now. It's usually a pretty slow time

1475
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 2: in college football, although I will say it was right

1476
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 2: around this time last year that Jimbo Fisher and Nick

1477
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,799
Speaker 2: Saban got into their little brew haha, which made national headlines.

1478
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,639
Speaker 2: But I would bring it up to say it's it's

1479
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 2: a quiet time in college football, but there's one place

1480
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: where it's never quiet, and that is wherever the orbit

1481
01:11:38,439 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 2: is surrounding coach Prime Dione Sanders. You know, this guy

1482
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 2: made a splash at Jackson State, had an incredibly successful

1483
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 2: three year run there, especially the final two seasons, and

1484
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 2: comes to Colorado and we've talked about it, and we

1485
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: talked about it when he had his spring game a

1486
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,479
Speaker 2: few weeks ago, about the spectacle and people were tuning

1487
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:57,000
Speaker 2: in and all that good stuff. But it's really been

1488
01:11:57,080 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 2: what has happened since then that has caught everybody's attention.

1489
01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:04,400
Speaker 2: Coach Prime has basically just told everybody listen. When he

1490
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: came in, he said, you know, I'm bringing my luggage

1491
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Speaker 2: and it's Louis, and that was an implication of I'm

1492
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 2: bringing in my own guys and they're better than you guys.

1493
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:15,439
Speaker 2: You guys better leave well. Coach Prime, Jason is doing something.

1494
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: He's taking it to a level the likes of which

1495
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:21,599
Speaker 2: we have never seen, as there have now been sixty

1496
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:27,440
Speaker 2: plus players enter the transfer portal from Colorado since December

1497
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:30,280
Speaker 2: when the previous coaching staff was fired and Dion Sanders

1498
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 2: took over. Last I saw, I believe there's a total

1499
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 2: of like twelve players that were on last year's roster

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01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,799
Speaker 2: that are projected to be back next year, twelve scholarship players.

1501
01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 2: Everybody else is either going to be transfers that were

1502
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 2: brought in in the winter time for spring ball or

1503
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 2: a new slew of transfers that will be brought in

1504
01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 2: this spring. Jason, we've never seen anything quite like this.

1505
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on Coach Prime's crazy spring cleaning

1506
01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 2: run here these last few weeks.

1507
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised by it. I'm also not bothered by it.

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01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: Real quick, before you continue, you say you're not surprised

1509
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 2: by it. We all knew Coach Prime was going to

1510
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 2: bring in new players, But are you not surprised by

1511
01:13:10,160 --> 01:13:13,000
Speaker 2: the volume? I mean, because you know, like even last year,

1512
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:15,839
Speaker 2: like Lincoln Riley, I think the total was like thirty

1513
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 2: five to forty new players at USC and that was

1514
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 2: even last year stunning. Now, I'll be honest, the rules

1515
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: have changed a little bit to make it a little

1516
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 2: easier to get players out of your program. Previously, it

1517
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,920
Speaker 2: was kind of a nuanced thing where you could really

1518
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 2: only bring in twenty five guys per calendar year. That's

1519
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 2: different now. But I mean Lincoln Riley had about thirty

1520
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,799
Speaker 2: five last year, and it was like stunning at the time.

1521
01:13:40,160 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 2: And so I know everybody's saying, oh, Coach Prime said

1522
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 2: he was gonna do this, But at the same time,

1523
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: I don't.

1524
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 1: I can't.

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01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:47,599
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you did think this. I didn't think we

1526
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 2: were talking sixty plus. I thought we were talking thirty

1527
01:13:50,120 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 2: five forty, which is, by the way, half of the

1528
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 2: roster we're talking about. When it's all said and done, Jason,

1529
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: we're probably talking about eighty to ninety percent of the

1530
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 2: roster that will be completely new from last November when

1531
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: the season ended, until the start of the season in

1532
01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:06,679
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three September twenty twenty three.

1533
01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: All right, so you say eighty to ninety percent turnover.

1534
01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: What's the team that won one football game? They lost

1535
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 1: more than ninety percent of the football games that they played. Now,

1536
01:14:17,400 --> 01:14:18,720
Speaker 1: did I expect it?

1537
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 4: No?

1538
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,919
Speaker 1: I think did I expect it and was I surprised

1539
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 1: by it? Or two different things. I didn't expect it.

1540
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it in those terms, But when

1541
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: I saw it, I was not surprised by it, if

1542
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 1: that makes sense. That's the way I kind of look

1543
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 1: at it. And you know, you see the handwringing. I

1544
01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: read the ESPN article about it where the executive director

1545
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:43,919
Speaker 1: of the AFCA, the American Football Coaches Association, said, basically,

1546
01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 1: coaches are saying, Hey, the intent of all this was

1547
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:49,720
Speaker 1: never for anybody to change over a roster. That was

1548
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: the quote. And I'm thinking to myself, I don't care

1549
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,680
Speaker 1: what the intent was if there's not something to explicitly

1550
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 1: prohibit this, this is sour grapes because you didn't think

1551
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:03,080
Speaker 1: of it first. Like, if you're Dion Sanders, the one

1552
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: thing you're not gonna do is tarnish your own name.

1553
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:06,800
Speaker 4: Not.

1554
01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:09,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you might do some things some people might

1555
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: think are run toward, and you might, you know self

1556
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 1: publicize you've done that your whole career. But you're not

1557
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: gonna go somewhere and lose you or at least at

1558
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 1: the very least, you're gonna do everything in your power

1559
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: not to. And if you're inheriting a one win team

1560
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: where you know the talent is not there, I think

1561
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 1: quietly you also know your own limitations as a coach

1562
01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 1: in this sport. It's not enough that you're Dion Sanders,

1563
01:15:34,439 --> 01:15:38,799
Speaker 1: because there's a Nick Saban, and there's a Ryan Day,

1564
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800
Speaker 1: and there's all the names that you want to put out.

1565
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: There's a Lincoln Riway, there's all of these guys that

1566
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:47,400
Speaker 1: are out there. Dion's now on a completely different pool.

1567
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 1: And Dion, even if a great coach, a great coach

1568
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: can't win with terrible talent, you can put the best

1569
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,360
Speaker 1: coach in the world at Vanderbilt. They're still not gonna

1570
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: win the national championship unless he's also able to bring people.

1571
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: Look at the Bucks, the Bucks before they get Tom Brady,

1572
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: they're not doing very much. Tom comes in, and he

1573
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: also brings Gronkowski, and he brings ab for a while,

1574
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: and he, you know, make sure that Leonard Fournette stays there.

1575
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,639
Speaker 1: Like all of these things kind of coalesce around him.

1576
01:16:19,040 --> 01:16:22,840
Speaker 1: Coach Prime is going to Colorado. Colorado is not really

1577
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: the name anymore. The brand is Coach Prime. He's always

1578
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:28,760
Speaker 1: been more about himself. And look, I say that to

1579
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: his credit. I mean, he's done an outstanding job of

1580
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,840
Speaker 1: making himself a household name in sports for a long time.

1581
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 1: If he's inheriting a bunch of guys that he thinks

1582
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: are scrubs, and he tells them in their first spring

1583
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: practice or their first meeting, a lot of you guys

1584
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: that are here right now are not gonna be here.

1585
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: He's in effect telling you what you said about bringing

1586
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 1: luggage in. That's Louis like, Look, nothing personal is his business.

1587
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: And Coach Prime's gonna win. And I have the ability

1588
01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: and the name recognition to restructure this team and not

1589
01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 1: wait at the back of the line to have to

1590
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,799
Speaker 1: build this over three or four years because the rules

1591
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: are set up in a way that enable me to

1592
01:17:10,520 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: completely turn this thing over. And that's basically what he's done.

1593
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 3: Well.

1594
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the word you used right there, which to

1595
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:17,600
Speaker 2: me is the most important one as far as the

1596
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: handwringing is concerned, is you said the business of it.

1597
01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:25,879
Speaker 2: And you know it's weird because you read the articles

1598
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 2: that have come out where basically coach Prime or one

1599
01:17:28,160 --> 01:17:30,040
Speaker 2: of his assistants basically says, you know, he gives him

1600
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 2: the old the hard knocks, like your cut, bring your playbook,

1601
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 2: time for you to go, and like, on an individual level,

1602
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 2: I feel bad for some of the individuals that want

1603
01:17:38,200 --> 01:17:41,000
Speaker 2: to be at the school that are no longer welcome there.

1604
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:43,439
Speaker 2: But what I would also say is I'm with you

1605
01:17:43,479 --> 01:17:45,439
Speaker 2: in that I don't feel bad from the perspective of

1606
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:48,840
Speaker 2: you know, for years, all we've been told is two

1607
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,320
Speaker 2: things is one you know got to be more player friend.

1608
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:52,760
Speaker 2: They got to be more player friend. They gotta let

1609
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:54,840
Speaker 2: the players make some money. And I agree, by the way,

1610
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 2: I'm glad that nil is here. I'm glad that players

1611
01:17:57,560 --> 01:18:01,160
Speaker 2: are making whatever the adults deem that they're worth. Whether

1612
01:18:01,200 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 2: it's through traditional nil or collectives or whatever means or

1613
01:18:05,240 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: you know, whatever ways the money is getting to the players.

1614
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: I'm glad that they're getting more. But at the same time,

1615
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,400
Speaker 2: there is the reverse side of this, which is now

1616
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:17,800
Speaker 2: there is like it's more you as players and as

1617
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:22,920
Speaker 2: as that entity. You made it about more than just

1618
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: than just the scholarship, room and board whatever you said,

1619
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: we're making money for the school. We deserve to get

1620
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 2: a cut of it. Okay, that's fine, But now you're

1621
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: getting a cut of it, you gotta perform, you gotta deliver.

1622
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 2: You gotta earn not only that scholarship and room and board,

1623
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:37,439
Speaker 2: but you got to earn that money as well. And

1624
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 2: so from that perspective, and I saw, I know you

1625
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: use the word hand ringing, I have no problem with

1626
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 2: adjason because I think, listen, for years, we've demanded that

1627
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 2: players get a cut of the pie financially, we demand

1628
01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 2: that players have more ability to leave if they're not

1629
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 2: happy in a place. Well, it's a two way street now,

1630
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:56,720
Speaker 2: and I think again, Dion Sanders is taking it to

1631
01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:58,920
Speaker 2: an extreme with what he's doing at Colorado Jays.

1632
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's just going to become the model for

1633
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: others to do similar things. Ye until they change the

1634
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: rules that if they can to change this and make

1635
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,599
Speaker 1: it not a thing that you can absolutely do, because

1636
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:16,040
Speaker 1: I think that behind closed doors, a lot of the

1637
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: ones that are like this isn't what this rule were intended.

1638
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 1: What they're really saying is, gosh, what a genius, like,

1639
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,880
Speaker 1: How brilliant is it? He took a major conference job

1640
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 1: in the cellar, and he's not going to sit there

1641
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,920
Speaker 1: and have to build out of the cellar. He's going

1642
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 1: to take the seller and basically go Stranger Things upside

1643
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: down style and try to end up turning the cellar

1644
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,200
Speaker 1: into the penthouse by leaving what was in the cellar

1645
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 1: in the cellar and rebuilding it on top.

1646
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 2: Didn't totally get that analogy. You never saw stranger things.

1647
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:48,480
Speaker 7: But not shocked dudes tend to agree.

1648
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 2: You know, it's the likes of which we've never seen.

1649
01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:52,200
Speaker 2: But I'm telling you, I think you one hundred percent right.

1650
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of staffs that are like it.

1651
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 2: Makes it a little easier for us next offseason to

1652
01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 2: maybe not you know, forty fifty sixty guys, but if

1653
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 2: we want get rid of twenty twenty five, all of

1654
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 2: a sudden, it doesn't look so bad. So crazy, crazy,

1655
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 2: crazy story out of Colorado, and we'll see how they rebuild.

1656
01:20:07,880 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: You know, they've picked up some very nice players out

1657
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,679
Speaker 2: of the portal this offseason, but it all comes down

1658
01:20:12,680 --> 01:20:15,679
Speaker 2: to what coach Prime does next fall at Colorado. Fox

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Speaker 2: on a Saturday night, the Los Angeles Lakers, in convincing fashion,

1673
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Speaker 2: taking care of the Golden State Warriors one twenty seven

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Speaker 1: Jason Morris, Yo, what do you got? What's up? Can I?

1679
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:21,680
Speaker 1: Can I mention one thing to you real fast? We

1680
01:21:21,720 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 1: talked about this off the top of the show, about

1681
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 1: the Braves right about me and what was on my

1682
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: refrigerator and everything going on. So Atlanta won tonight five

1683
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,639
Speaker 1: to four. They lost last night, got slacked by the Orioles,

1684
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 1: who were a really good team this year, and then

1685
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 1: we got the job done tonight. Right. So I'm watching

1686
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: MLB Network right now because they're showing this Mariners Astros game.

1687
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,680
Speaker 1: It was three nothing Astros and now the Mariners have

1688
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: scored six in the eighth and it's one of the

1689
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: last events on TV tonight. But at the bottom of

1690
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,759
Speaker 1: the screen is the the Chiron is the crawl. Atlanta

1691
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 1: won nine of last twelve games. Now you want to

1692
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:02,800
Speaker 1: talk about superst and all of these things. Remember they

1693
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:06,519
Speaker 1: ended up losing one more game and then I moved

1694
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: the schedule off my refrigerator. Okay, Atlanta won nine of

1695
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,840
Speaker 1: last twelve games. Now I'm quoting this off the television.

1696
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 1: Have not lost consecutive games since four games skid April

1697
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,840
Speaker 1: nineteenth through twenty third. Wow, know what April nineteenth through

1698
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: twenty third was. It was the exact time frame that

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01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: I had the schedule on the front of my refrigerator.

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01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: The night of the twenty third is when I moved

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01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,439
Speaker 1: it to the side of my refrigerator. And they've been

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01:22:39,479 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 1: on a tear ever since.

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01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,240
Speaker 2: They have not lost back to back game since then.

1704
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,439
Speaker 2: We should get you know, listen, there are competitions, so

1705
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 2: we want everybody focused on Fox Sports Radio, not MLB network.

1706
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 2: I do have a buddy who's a producer there. I

1707
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,519
Speaker 2: can see if he, you know, will add that to

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01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,000
Speaker 2: the scroll. Have won nine of twelve.

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01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:57,720
Speaker 1: I don't know the executive games.

1710
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:01,440
Speaker 2: Since Jason Martin moved the schedule on his on his refrigerator.

1711
01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 2: For people who missed it, we did leave the show

1712
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 2: with it, so Jason was in the real the conundrum

1713
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,599
Speaker 2: of any fan of a sports team. We talked about

1714
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 2: it a few weeks ago. Jason is a passionate, diehard

1715
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 2: Braves fan, and maybe even more so this year was

1716
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,479
Speaker 2: committed to making sure he didn't miss or he missed

1717
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,719
Speaker 2: as little as he possibly could. And so Jason decided,

1718
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,760
Speaker 2: about three weeks ago, you know what, I'm gonna print

1719
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: the schedule, Gonna put it up on the refrigerator for

1720
01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,519
Speaker 2: all to see, so that I make sure I got

1721
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 2: the dates right, the time's right, the TV schedule right,

1722
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,479
Speaker 2: all that good stuff. And as Jason just told you,

1723
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 2: they immediately lost several games in a row, three in

1724
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:42,000
Speaker 2: a row at that point, and we led the show

1725
01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:45,679
Speaker 2: that Saturday by the age old question of as a fan,

1726
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 2: do you have to do something about it? And we're

1727
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,320
Speaker 2: all fans of somebody, and we've all been in that

1728
01:23:51,360 --> 01:23:54,800
Speaker 2: situation where you wear an old, raggedy T shirt that

1729
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 2: you were supposed to throw in the wash, and your

1730
01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:58,080
Speaker 2: team wins, and then you wear it the next day

1731
01:23:58,120 --> 01:23:59,679
Speaker 2: because it's good luck, and then all of a sudden,

1732
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,040
Speaker 2: you can't not wear it during the game, or are

1733
01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 2: you sitting in a certain seed or you eat a

1734
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 2: certain meal or whatever, And so Jason, I mean, I

1735
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: think it's indisputable science at this point is that there

1736
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 2: are certain parts of your refrigerator that when the schedule

1737
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 2: is on one part as opposed to the other, the

1738
01:24:16,040 --> 01:24:18,280
Speaker 2: Braves are more likely to win games. It's indisputable science.

1739
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 1: At this point. I take full credit. I take full

1740
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: responsibility for that four game losing streak, but I take

1741
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: full credit for what's happened since as you show, it's

1742
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,160
Speaker 1: amazing thing. It's just I know, it's not news, it's

1743
01:24:34,200 --> 01:24:37,439
Speaker 1: not super intriguing or anything else, but it does follow

1744
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: up what we were talking about earlier, and the fact

1745
01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: that it came across the screen and it was the

1746
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 1: exact time frame and when I moved it and everything

1747
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:48,240
Speaker 1: changing after that. It was just like, Okay, I'm gonna

1748
01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: bring this up because this is preposterous. And even though

1749
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,280
Speaker 1: it was just kind of a bit of a gimmick

1750
01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: on the show, even though it was true, now it

1751
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: actually has some facts that back up the superstition, and

1752
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 1: I've gotta admit I'm a little freaked out about the

1753
01:25:02,360 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: whole thing.

1754
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 2: Shouldn't be freaked out. You should just be happy that

1755
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,360
Speaker 2: you are the X factor. The Braves, by the way,

1756
01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,439
Speaker 2: have a very comfortable six game lead in the NL

1757
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 2: East over the struggling New York Mets right now. So

1758
01:25:13,600 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 2: Arnie has switched his New York Mets schedule all over

1759
01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,479
Speaker 2: his refrigerator and has done nothing for him as his

1760
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 2: team stinks. But the Braves with a six game lead

1761
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 2: in the NL East. They get the win today and

1762
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: are basically unbeatable since Jason has moved the calendar around

1763
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,559
Speaker 2: his refrigerator. Jason, speaking of unbeatable, I'm just gonna ask

1764
01:25:32,600 --> 01:25:36,000
Speaker 2: you a question, is anybody gonna be good enough to

1765
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,519
Speaker 2: meet the Phladelphia Eagles next year in the NFC. I

1766
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 2: know that's a weird transition, but with the draft done,

1767
01:25:41,800 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 2: with free agency mostly done, Listen, there's gonna be a

1768
01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:47,640
Speaker 2: few moves here and there, but we largely now know

1769
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 2: what everybody looks like, especially after the news last week

1770
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 2: that Aaron Rodgers is officially leaving Green Bay is officially

1771
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 2: in New York. Jet We've seen him hanging out in

1772
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,759
Speaker 2: New York, rub and elbows with Jessica Alba and Sauce

1773
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:02,280
Speaker 2: Gardner and all that stuff. Aaron Rodgers is gone. Tom

1774
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 2: Brady as of right now, is retired, and I don't

1775
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 2: think he's going to unretire, even though there's constant rumors

1776
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 2: that he will. Brock Purty. We don't know the status

1777
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 2: of him going into the season. Right now, we think

1778
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 2: Sam Darnold is probably going to be the starter for

1779
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,519
Speaker 2: San Francisco in Week one, and so I want to

1780
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 2: talk about both conferences. I think each is interesting in

1781
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 2: its own right. Kansas City is obviously the Ranning Super

1782
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:28,719
Speaker 2: Bowl champ. They have a ton of competition, but somebody's

1783
01:26:28,720 --> 01:26:30,960
Speaker 2: still got to knock them off the pedestal. But I

1784
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:34,680
Speaker 2: look at the Eagles and it's interesting because usually when

1785
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: a team loses in the Super Bowl, you expect that

1786
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:39,919
Speaker 2: Super Bowl hangover. How are they gonna respond? The schedule

1787
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,880
Speaker 2: gets tough for all that I'm telling you, man, you

1788
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 2: look at this Eagles team. They are so stacked on defense.

1789
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is very clearly a star at quarterback. He

1790
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 2: has his guy in aj Brown, and nice complimentary receivers

1791
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 2: Devonte Smith, etc. It's just interesting, you know. I kind

1792
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 2: of like, you know, the draft ended last Saturday, right

1793
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 2: before we came on air, and you kind of spend

1794
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 2: the week kind of just reflecting on everything. And for

1795
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,799
Speaker 2: that team to add a Jalen Carter to an elite defense,

1796
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 2: to add Achille Ringo, to add some of the pieces

1797
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 2: that they have on top of what they already have.

1798
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:18,200
Speaker 2: What do you make of the NFC going into next year,

1799
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 2: because it feels like it's Philly and then a big

1800
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: gap after that.

1801
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna hear a lot about Dallas, but I won't

1802
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:25,120
Speaker 1: buy it.

1803
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 2: By the way, without Kellen Moore, remember that you know

1804
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's now calling plays. We'll see if that offense

1805
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 2: maintains the level that it was at.

1806
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: But continue, Jason, the Giants. I still think you got

1807
01:27:35,479 --> 01:27:38,080
Speaker 1: about the best version of the Giants this past season.

1808
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: I don't think they can be much better. I just

1809
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,000
Speaker 1: don't think Daniel Jones's ceiling is much higher than what

1810
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,640
Speaker 1: we have seen. And that doesn't mean he shouldn't be

1811
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: in this league, but it does mean I question your

1812
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 1: ability to win a super Bowl with that guy, especially

1813
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:54,679
Speaker 1: if you're also relying on Saquon Barkley, who has been,

1814
01:27:55,360 --> 01:28:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, injury plagued throughout his career. Chicago Detroit was

1815
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,200
Speaker 1: fun last year. I think they will be fun again.

1816
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I don't know what we're gonna get out

1817
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,160
Speaker 1: of Jordan Love, but I don't think we're getting a

1818
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:13,920
Speaker 1: super Bowl out of them. Minnesota, maybe they were real

1819
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: bad on defense and real old on defense, so that's

1820
01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: where they really needed to address things. The way that

1821
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,599
Speaker 1: they drafted and got a complimentary piece that basically replaced

1822
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 1: Adam Feeling. We'll see what that looks like. Atlanta's not good.

1823
01:28:27,800 --> 01:28:30,880
Speaker 1: Carolina's got the worst set of receivers in the league

1824
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:34,120
Speaker 1: for their stud Quarterback Bryce Young to start his career

1825
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:38,040
Speaker 1: with the Saints are intriguing. Derek Carr is certainly a

1826
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,840
Speaker 1: more stable force than what they've had. His ceiling is

1827
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:44,280
Speaker 1: higher than what they have had generally since Drew Brees,

1828
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 1: but I still don't know what to make of them.

1829
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,839
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's not very good. Arizona's a disaster. The Rams

1830
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:56,640
Speaker 1: are retreating in many different ways. Seattle was interesting, but

1831
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:58,519
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna sneak up on people the

1832
01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:01,519
Speaker 1: way they did last year. That's gonna harm them. San

1833
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,000
Speaker 1: Francisco's really the only one that I look at and say,

1834
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:07,040
Speaker 1: because I've seen Kyle Shanahan do this with a lot

1835
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,200
Speaker 1: of different people at quarterback, there's no reason to think

1836
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: their defense is going to be any worse. Even without

1837
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: Demiko Ryans being there anymore. I think they're still going

1838
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:18,519
Speaker 1: to be very, very good. They still have a whole

1839
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 1: lot of skill talent on offense. Let's not forget about

1840
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey and what a great acquisition that turned out

1841
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:28,240
Speaker 1: to be. But to answer your question, no, I think

1842
01:29:28,280 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: that the Philadelphia Eagles should be a runaway favorite to

1843
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: win the NFC, which probably means they won't. But they

1844
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: are by far the team you look at and just say,

1845
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: no one else really is playing on the same field

1846
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 1: with them in terms of the way that they have

1847
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:50,000
Speaker 1: built that team. They've paid a quarterback that is going

1848
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,639
Speaker 1: to do everything he can for them and already has,

1849
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:56,840
Speaker 1: and they have the right makeup. Again, They're not the

1850
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: team that looks like a Super Bowl hangover waiting to have.

1851
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:04,360
Speaker 2: So I tend to agree don't buy Dallas without Kellen Moore.

1852
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:06,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying he was the only reason, but

1853
01:30:06,840 --> 01:30:09,200
Speaker 2: I do think he brought something to that offense that

1854
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:13,080
Speaker 2: I think is going to be lacking this year. Minnesota.

1855
01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:15,200
Speaker 2: They can't win a million one possession games like they

1856
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 2: did last year. Right, there is one more team that

1857
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 2: I do want to bring in, Chris Perfetta, And Chris Purfett,

1858
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,920
Speaker 2: of course, is the host of the Pride of Detroit podcast.

1859
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,800
Speaker 2: The Number one Lions podcast out there. So Chris, I'm

1860
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 2: just gonna throw it out there, and I don't want

1861
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 2: you to be upset with me. It's the Lions. I

1862
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,559
Speaker 2: want to believe in him, I want to like him,

1863
01:30:37,880 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 2: but it's the Lions, I know, and I worry. And

1864
01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 2: so what is your perspective as somebody who covers this

1865
01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 2: team on a day to day, bab.

1866
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,559
Speaker 8: I think the the week before the draft and the

1867
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 8: first night the draft kind of gave us a preview

1868
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 8: as far as just how quickly opinions can turn on them, right,

1869
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 8: because you have Jamison Williams who gets suspended six you know,

1870
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,320
Speaker 8: six games start the year here, and then they go

1871
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:02,479
Speaker 8: out the first the draft and draft a running back

1872
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 8: Jamiir Gibbs, who, by the way, is actually like pretty.

1873
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,360
Speaker 2: Good and more in that album Tomorrow real quick on that. Yeah,

1874
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,439
Speaker 2: go ahead. I will say this, Jason and I do

1875
01:31:10,479 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 2: a lot of college football, and obviously by default we

1876
01:31:13,200 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 2: talk a lot of Alabama, watch a lot of Alabama.

1877
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 2: Jamiir Gibbs, what you know, Jason is an Alabama fan. Chris,

1878
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:21,800
Speaker 2: We'll get back to you in a second. Jason. I'll

1879
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: be honest. I didn't understand the backlash on Jamiir Gibbs

1880
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:27,719
Speaker 2: because he's a running back, but he's also a wide receiver.

1881
01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 2: He can make plays in the in the receiving game,

1882
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 2: the running game. And listen, Chris, you can answer better

1883
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 2: what the holes were that needed to be plugged on

1884
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 2: that team. But when you can add another home run

1885
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 2: hitter with Jamison Williams, is gonna come back. I'm gonna

1886
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,639
Speaker 2: ross Saint Brown all that, Jason, did you have any

1887
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:47,720
Speaker 2: because that seemed to be like one of the big

1888
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 2: Twitter social media hot takes was what a disastrous pick

1889
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 2: that was for the Detroit And I just didn't get

1890
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:53,559
Speaker 2: it at all, Jason.

1891
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: They knew what they were doing. The only thing that

1892
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: I would say was questionable is could they have possibly

1893
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 1: tried to trade down and still gotten the guy? But

1894
01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:04,440
Speaker 1: and I think that Chris actually made the right comparison

1895
01:32:06,320 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 1: right before he stopped talking here a minute ago. He

1896
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: does remind you a lot of Alvin Kamara because he

1897
01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:15,120
Speaker 1: can catch the football, because he runs the way that

1898
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:19,240
Speaker 1: he does. He was the one guy for Alabama last

1899
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,040
Speaker 1: year outside of Bryce Young where I was like, man,

1900
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: that kid is frightening, absolutely frightening. And if you look

1901
01:32:27,120 --> 01:32:30,640
Speaker 1: at what the Lions then did, moving swift to uh

1902
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:34,200
Speaker 1: Georgia Pro, which is also known as Philadelphia.

1903
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,200
Speaker 8: And by the way, as a Gator, I does he

1904
01:32:37,240 --> 01:32:38,800
Speaker 8: have to turn in his alumni card for that.

1905
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 1: It's weird.

1906
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 7: It's a lot of Georgia guys.

1907
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Chris, I think you're right. By the way,

1908
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: what you said about Kamara, I think that's that's what

1909
01:32:47,000 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 1: it is. And if you get Alvin Kamar, if he

1910
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:51,680
Speaker 1: turns out to be an Alvin Kamara like player, no

1911
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: one is core that the Lions drafted him, you know

1912
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:57,599
Speaker 1: twelve or wherever it was, and.

1913
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Speaker 8: And their their general manager is was the director for

1914
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:03,360
Speaker 8: college scouting for the Rams. So like between that and

1915
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:07,679
Speaker 8: Jack Campbell, I understand the positional value argument because most

1916
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 8: linebackers that go into the NFL are going to be

1917
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,360
Speaker 8: very average. Maybe once in a while you hit on

1918
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,240
Speaker 8: a Bobby Wagner and he's a home run, you give

1919
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:16,439
Speaker 8: him a ton of a huge contract for it. But

1920
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 8: those guys are rare. So taking a running back in

1921
01:33:18,800 --> 01:33:20,320
Speaker 8: the linebacker in the first round, I get it. But

1922
01:33:20,360 --> 01:33:23,839
Speaker 8: they also picked up you know Branch, who I really wanted. Anyway,

1923
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:26,839
Speaker 8: I think people went into this draft thinking the Lions

1924
01:33:26,840 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 8: would because they were one of the worst defenses last year,

1925
01:33:29,800 --> 01:33:32,080
Speaker 8: that they'd spend a lot of their draft capital to

1926
01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 8: get better on defense. But I think they really did

1927
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 8: a lot of that in free agency, especially for their

1928
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:41,799
Speaker 8: cornerbacks and their safeties. They continue to improve the offense.

1929
01:33:42,680 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 8: That division's tough, though. That division's tough, as as Aaron

1930
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:48,880
Speaker 8: alluded to, I haven't seen it with the Lions either,

1931
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:50,760
Speaker 8: and it's something I have to get used to. It's

1932
01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:54,320
Speaker 8: something that I have to just wait and see if

1933
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,919
Speaker 8: the Lions can. You know, both years with under Dan Campbell,

1934
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:00,720
Speaker 8: they've started very slow out of the gate, and that

1935
01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 8: that's been a problem because they spent last year struggling

1936
01:34:04,120 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 8: to get into the playoffs, and because the game was

1937
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:10,080
Speaker 8: out of their hands between the Seahawks and the Rams,

1938
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 8: they couldn't get in. They can't really do that this year.

1939
01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 8: I don't know what the vikings are in that division.

1940
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,800
Speaker 8: I think the Bears had a good draft, but they're

1941
01:34:17,800 --> 01:34:20,760
Speaker 8: still a year or two away from coming back in

1942
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,519
Speaker 8: But and I don't the Packers are basically set up

1943
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 8: to live or die by how good Jordan Love is,

1944
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:30,280
Speaker 8: so they have a window open for them. But I

1945
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,040
Speaker 8: don't think it's going to be trying to beating the

1946
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 8: Eagles in the NFC. I think at this point, like

1947
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:38,600
Speaker 8: ceiling for the Lions is probably just getting into the

1948
01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 8: playoffs and winning a playoff game, which we they haven't

1949
01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 8: done for over twenty years, which I'm sure they happy.

1950
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Speaker 1: By the way, I think could actually be disappointing if

1951
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:47,840
Speaker 1: they don't make the playoffs this year, because I think

1952
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:48,400
Speaker 1: they should.

1953
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,040
Speaker 2: I agree, especially with that extra wildcard spot, and I

1954
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:52,720
Speaker 2: think the goal should be to win the division. But

1955
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:57,000
Speaker 2: you now have seven spots with that division. Chicago's still

1956
01:34:57,160 --> 01:35:01,360
Speaker 2: you know what they are, Green Bay. I'll tell you what.

1957
01:35:01,479 --> 01:35:03,840
Speaker 2: Let's come back. Let's continue this conversation because I think

1958
01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 2: it's very interesting and it speaks to once you get

1959
01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 2: past Philadelphia, the divergent thought about this conference as a whole.

1960
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Speaker 2: We'll discuss all that next. Shouldn't mention by the way,

1961
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1966
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Speaker 2: the conversation on the NFC, who could possibly be a

1967
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 2: favorite behind Philadelphia, and then we turn our attention to

1968
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 2: the AFC, where Kansas City, of course is on top.

1969
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,479
Speaker 2: Who is their biggest competition? Discuss that next. Fox Sports

1970
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Speaker 2: Radio Welcome back everybody. Fox Sports Radio eron Torres Jason

1971
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:50,960
Speaker 2: Martin broadcasting live from the tire rack dot com studios.

1972
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 2: So before the break, we're kind of talking a week

1973
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 2: ago the NFL Draft ends, and you kind of sit

1974
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:00,559
Speaker 2: there and look up and you say, man, Philadelphia Eagles,

1975
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: reigning NFC champs, they just got better. The Packers got worse,

1976
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,760
Speaker 2: the Bucks got worse. San Francisco we don't know who

1977
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 2: their starter is gonna be opening night, and so it

1978
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,800
Speaker 2: really sets up a fascinating NFC where it feels like

1979
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 2: there's an overwhelming favorite. And before the break, we were

1980
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 2: talking about some of the teams that could be in

1981
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:23,320
Speaker 2: the mix, including Chris Prefet's Detroit Lions. Guys, I want

1982
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 2: to ask you about two more teams. Chris, I'll bring

1983
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 2: you in for one, and the producer Pat I need

1984
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,639
Speaker 2: your expertise on one as well. So we were talking about

1985
01:36:31,800 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 2: NFC North, and I'll start with you, Jason, what do

1986
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:38,920
Speaker 2: you make of the Packers, because it's been to me,

1987
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 2: it's been this weird, like this is what happens sometimes

1988
01:36:44,680 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 2: in our news cycle, where it's like everybody feels one

1989
01:36:47,080 --> 01:36:49,559
Speaker 2: way about something and then everybody's gotta feel like it

1990
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:52,479
Speaker 2: felt like, okay, Packers are gonna make it to take

1991
01:36:52,520 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 2: a major step back. It's a rebuilding year. But this

1992
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:57,080
Speaker 2: is the year that you got to find out what

1993
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 2: you're getting from Jordan Love. And it was time for

1994
01:36:58,840 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to move on. He was injured and he

1995
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,479
Speaker 2: was a lot to deal with whatever. And then lately

1996
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:07,479
Speaker 2: I have seen this like reverse pivot back. That's not

1997
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:10,120
Speaker 2: really the right term, but reverse pivot back to well,

1998
01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 2: you know, I mean the defensive. You know, the defense.

1999
01:37:13,720 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 2: The defense is really good, and you know, Christian Watson

2000
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 2: really came on late, and you know, they drafted some

2001
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 2: guys and it's like, I'm sorry, maybe I'm being totally

2002
01:37:23,320 --> 01:37:27,320
Speaker 2: negative about this one. I think if Jordan Love was

2003
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:30,960
Speaker 2: so incredible in practice over the previous couple of years,

2004
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,759
Speaker 2: you don't sign Aaron Rodgers to a huge extension last offseason.

2005
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 2: Even if he is coming off an MVP caliber season,

2006
01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 2: but then two like when he has played, he hasn't

2007
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:41,920
Speaker 2: been bad. But I haven't seen anything that makes me

2008
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 2: believe that they are going to continue at the level

2009
01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:46,479
Speaker 2: that they've been at for most of the last two decades.

2010
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Speaker 5: Now.

2011
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,479
Speaker 2: I know they struggled last year, missed the playoffs. I'm

2012
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,120
Speaker 2: not saying that they can't be as good or the

2013
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:55,160
Speaker 2: same as last year. But Jason, like, are you buying this? Well,

2014
01:37:55,160 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 2: you know, Christian Watson came on strong, and the defense

2015
01:37:57,560 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 2: is really good, and I don't know, maybe the Packers

2016
01:37:59,640 --> 01:38:01,920
Speaker 2: are all achieve I don't buy it. I'm selling it.

2017
01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: What do you say?

2018
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Speaker 1: I'm skeptical. I'm going to watch it with an open mind,

2019
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,680
Speaker 1: but I'm skeptical. The reason why similar to what you

2020
01:38:11,800 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 1: said it. I recall reading article after article after article

2021
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:22,960
Speaker 1: where there were insiders within the Packers organization that reportedly

2022
01:38:23,000 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: were saying, Jordan Love, ain't it. They've been saying that

2023
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, And I remember reading these

2024
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: a Pro Football Talk, at Sports Illustrated, in all these

2025
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:34,240
Speaker 1: different places, and then everything just kind of shut up.

2026
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:39,400
Speaker 1: So what changed? I would just say the business changed

2027
01:38:39,439 --> 01:38:41,679
Speaker 1: in terms of them not wanting to deal with Aaron

2028
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: Rodgers anymore. I'm not sold at all that they're sold

2029
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: on Jordan Love. And I think the other thing here

2030
01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:55,479
Speaker 1: is I remember watching Matt Lafleur as the offensive coordinator

2031
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 1: for the Tennessee Titans when I was covering the team

2032
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:00,400
Speaker 1: here where I live in Nashville, and I was completely

2033
01:39:00,439 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: unimpressed as an OC. And he was replaced by Arthur Smith,

2034
01:39:04,439 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: who I was impressed by, who went on and is

2035
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: now the coach with the Falcons. Now, Lafleur has won

2036
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,599
Speaker 1: a ton of games in Green Bay, but he's done

2037
01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:17,880
Speaker 1: almost nothing without Aaron Rodgers as his quarterback, and a

2038
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: lot of it he didn't do without DeVante Adams as

2039
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 1: this number one wide receiver. So I went impressed with

2040
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 1: him as the o C. I couldn't believe he was

2041
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:30,160
Speaker 1: the first guy that got the got hired in Green Bay.

2042
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:31,960
Speaker 1: And then I said, look, I guess I was wrong,

2043
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:33,800
Speaker 1: because he's doing a great job and good for him.

2044
01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: There's nothing against Matt Leafleour other than I just didn't

2045
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:39,680
Speaker 1: think he had esteemed himself to where he needed to

2046
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,120
Speaker 1: get a head coaching gig at that point in time,

2047
01:39:42,160 --> 01:39:47,840
Speaker 1: and didn't understand it. I think that Matt Lafleur is

2048
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 1: going to be under a giant microscope now, and I

2049
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:54,680
Speaker 1: don't think that he is equipped with Jordan Love and

2050
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:58,400
Speaker 1: not Aaron Rodgers and this team to do that kind

2051
01:39:58,479 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: of thing. And if it doesn't work, he is the

2052
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: one that's gonna take the fall for this first probably fair,

2053
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,880
Speaker 1: but I don't think I think there's much. I think

2054
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,800
Speaker 1: it's much more like with Jordan Love is not the

2055
01:40:08,880 --> 01:40:13,599
Speaker 1: quarterback two years from today than that he is, and

2056
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:15,639
Speaker 1: that's that's just a break. So it's hard to stay

2057
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:18,320
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But I just feel like, as you said,

2058
01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:20,920
Speaker 1: if Jordan Love was that good, I feel like we

2059
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,640
Speaker 1: would all have heard a whole lot more for a

2060
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:24,799
Speaker 1: whole lot longer.

2061
01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,439
Speaker 2: It's totally fair, like even like the Jimmy g stuff.

2062
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:29,719
Speaker 2: Like I mean, if you remember, there was like glowing

2063
01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:31,680
Speaker 2: reports about how good he is or he could be

2064
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,559
Speaker 2: or whatever prior to his trade to San Francisco. Chris,

2065
01:40:34,600 --> 01:40:36,559
Speaker 2: really quick about a minute, because I want to get

2066
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,240
Speaker 2: to pat on another one as a Detroit guy. Are

2067
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:44,639
Speaker 2: you at all worried about the mystery of Jordan Love

2068
01:40:44,680 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 2: and what he could potentially be now that he's the

2069
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:47,760
Speaker 2: starting quarterback.

2070
01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 8: Kind of but not entirely, if that makes sense, Like

2071
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 8: it they are set up to basically they will succeed

2072
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 8: or fail because of Jordan Love at this point they do,

2073
01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 8: I mean the one the one factor I will see

2074
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,559
Speaker 8: is they do still have Ara Jones and aj Dillon.

2075
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,720
Speaker 8: They still have their run game together, for whatever that

2076
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,120
Speaker 8: is worth for the Packers, who have actually had a

2077
01:41:07,120 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 8: fairly balanced, slash leaning towards run game in the past

2078
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 8: couple of years. I don't think Jordan Love is it,

2079
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:15,960
Speaker 8: but we are going to learn very soon with all

2080
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:19,200
Speaker 8: they've put around him. Like, I think the ceiling for

2081
01:41:19,240 --> 01:41:21,680
Speaker 8: that team is probably like six seven games, which is

2082
01:41:21,720 --> 01:41:24,439
Speaker 8: just not going to be enough for the Packers these days.

2083
01:41:24,479 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 8: But you know, is that.

2084
01:41:26,040 --> 01:41:27,320
Speaker 2: Enough to know what Jordan Love is?

2085
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 3: I don't.

2086
01:41:28,240 --> 01:41:30,600
Speaker 8: I don't think so, And I think I agree with

2087
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:32,920
Speaker 8: you guys. I think I don't see him as the

2088
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,680
Speaker 8: quarterback for like two three years down the line. But

2089
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 8: I also think that the Packers are not going to

2090
01:41:39,280 --> 01:41:42,360
Speaker 8: just be completely in the top ten of this upcoming draft.

2091
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:43,760
Speaker 8: Just I'm being really bad.

2092
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: No, I agree, because I do think everything else around

2093
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,120
Speaker 2: him is really good, all right, Pat you're coming in

2094
01:41:48,160 --> 01:41:50,960
Speaker 2: here because Pat, along with Dan Byer, that you are

2095
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:54,720
Speaker 2: the resident Seahawks fan in this million. Yes, yes, So

2096
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,040
Speaker 2: let me lay out my argument for the Seaton and

2097
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 2: I don't think they're the second best team behind Philly,

2098
01:41:59,479 --> 01:42:01,880
Speaker 2: but I I don't actually know that. I think that

2099
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:04,720
Speaker 2: because Arizona's gonna be way down. San Francisco doesn't have

2100
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 2: a quarterback right now, the Rams. The Rams have a quarterback.

2101
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:09,639
Speaker 2: I don't know what else they have except for Cooper Cup.

2102
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:13,800
Speaker 2: But Seattle here, here's where Seattle is intriguing to me.

2103
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 2: We spent in the entire draft process knowing that Seattle

2104
01:42:17,520 --> 01:42:20,160
Speaker 2: had a top five pick thinking one of two things.

2105
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 2: Are they gonna go quarterback in the top five or

2106
01:42:24,479 --> 01:42:26,720
Speaker 2: could they use the late first round pick to take

2107
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 2: a quarterback there as well?

2108
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:29,920
Speaker 9: Right, like Hooker, like Hendon Hooker.

2109
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:30,160
Speaker 1: Right.

2110
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:33,439
Speaker 2: So why I bring it up is because instead they

2111
01:42:33,479 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 2: go defense one, which is fine, whatever, But then two,

2112
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 2: they drafted the best wide receiver in the draft in

2113
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: my opinion, in Jackson Smith and Jig. But with that

2114
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,639
Speaker 2: second pick, which leads me to believe that they maybe

2115
01:42:45,680 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 2: not like we said, maybe not for the next ten years.

2116
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 2: I think they believe in Geno Smith. And remember this

2117
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:53,360
Speaker 2: is a team that made the playoffs last year. The

2118
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,640
Speaker 2: division in theory should be worse. How high are you

2119
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 2: right now? Pat on your Seahawks, Because it feels like

2120
01:43:00,160 --> 01:43:02,640
Speaker 2: the people in the building believe in the dudes in

2121
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:04,760
Speaker 2: that locker room. If that makes sense. Yeah, no, I

2122
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 2: I agree with that.

2123
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,559
Speaker 9: I do believe, not just believe in Gino, but I

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Speaker 9: feel like they believe in themselves, in their culture. Mean,

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Speaker 9: Pete Carroll has always been that coaching cloth of we

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Speaker 9: all kind of you know, built different is probably the word.

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Speaker 9: But uh yeah, I know with the draft they got

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Speaker 9: uh you know, Jackson Smith, Jigba, he was great, you know,

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01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 9: number one wide receiver, and I think Devin Witherspoon was

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01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 9: the very very shrewd and very unorthodox pick at five.

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01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:32,920
Speaker 9: Shocked me, but I was very happy.

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01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:35,440
Speaker 8: I don't think it's that unorthodox, to be honest.

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01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:37,120
Speaker 9: He's he's he's he's a lockdown corner.

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Speaker 7: I like it.

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Speaker 9: But a lot of people are gonna overlook Seattle because, like, well,

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Speaker 9: Gino Smith can't repeat it. Honestly, I'm not the biggest

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01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 9: hype believer on Gino. But at the same token, I

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01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 9: think what's around him is really gonna help the They're

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01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:53,479
Speaker 9: gonna have a great three wide receiver corps. You have

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01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 9: depth at the running back spot now, and then on defense,

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01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:57,760
Speaker 9: which was their achilles heel here.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 9: You know, sometimes you don't need a good front seven

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01:44:01,560 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 9: if your secondary is absolutely dominant. Considering they now have

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01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:09,719
Speaker 9: three quality starter safeties. If as soon, assuming Jamal Adams

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Speaker 9: is healthy, and now you have you know, a one

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Speaker 9: two punch with Treaq Woollen on one end and then

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Speaker 9: Devin Witherspoon on the other, you could have a maybe

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01:44:17,760 --> 01:44:20,360
Speaker 9: not a legion of Boom, but a legian to Spoon,

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Speaker 9: if you know what I meant.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Oh my goodness, all right, Wow, that was something else.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Look, you got DK Metcalf, Tyler Lockett,

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01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:33,160
Speaker 1: and you add Smith and Jigbit to that. That's gross.

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01:44:33,560 --> 01:44:36,080
Speaker 1: I don't think that Geno Smith is your long term answer.

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01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:37,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he thinks he's going to be the

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01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,719
Speaker 1: long term answer. I think that they're planning, they're building

2157
01:44:40,760 --> 01:44:44,479
Speaker 1: the team right now so that they've got something special

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01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 1: for whoever is going to succeed Geno Smith. And in

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01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,120
Speaker 1: the interim they understand that he is a great caretaker

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01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: with a high upside. He's kind of a Ryan TANNEHILLI

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01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:57,960
Speaker 1: Ish kind of player where when he is at his best,

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01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,200
Speaker 1: he can win you football games. And last year he

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01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:02,080
Speaker 1: did a lot of things that no one thought he

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01:45:02,160 --> 01:45:05,880
Speaker 1: was capable of. And then they're gonna let him, you know,

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Speaker 1: hold on to that job for a little while longer.

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01:45:08,120 --> 01:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I think there will be somebody else there. And what

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01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: they're doing is setting the stage for that team to

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01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:15,280
Speaker 1: be loaded by the time he gets there. And that

2169
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:19,439
Speaker 1: offense is frightening, particularly at the running back spot. Don't

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Speaker 1: swards the wide receiver spot. Excuse me, no, they are.

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Speaker 2: And like I said, everything is set up nicely for

2172
01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 2: for whoever ends up being the quarterback, not only this

2173
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 2: year but post Gino Smith. But yeah, it seems like

2174
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Speaker 2: they have confidence in Gino Smith to keep this thing

2175
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Speaker 2: going and to get them back to the playoffs. Fox

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Speaker 2: match coming up, we will quickly look at the AFC

2182
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Speaker 2: playoff picture behind Kansas City first, though, I want to

2183
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 2: toss it over the news desk Steve the Sega first

2184
01:45:56,960 --> 01:45:58,559
Speaker 2: of all, to the saga. If you have any NFC hot

2185
01:45:58,560 --> 01:46:01,960
Speaker 2: takes in April or May, you're welcome to chime on in. Otherwise,

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01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:02,679
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot.

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Speaker 7: To updated that is big for May the six. Now,

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01:46:05,080 --> 01:46:07,160
Speaker 7: the thing that struck me was not football. That I

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01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 7: ran across a lebron postgame quote where you guys had

2190
01:46:10,439 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 7: mentioned earlier on the show his son Bronnie James committed

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01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:16,960
Speaker 7: to play basketball at USC Cheoching the Trojans reportedly over

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Speaker 7: Oregon and Ohio State. But the postgame quote was one

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Speaker 7: of the best days of my life. Understandable. He's the

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Speaker 7: first one to go to college in my family.

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, it's interesting.

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Speaker 7: How How long are you and I expecting Bronnie James

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Speaker 7: to be a student at USC.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, when your dad says I want to

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Speaker 2: play with you, and I've structured my contract as such

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01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:40,280
Speaker 2: so you can, so I can play with you as

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Speaker 2: soon as you could conceivably by rule, get to the NBA.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like it's that long, but it is

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01:46:45,880 --> 01:46:48,120
Speaker 2: still a cool moment for the family, you know lebron

2204
01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,320
Speaker 2: and I think Lebron's talked about it is you know,

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01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:51,439
Speaker 2: there's a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: I know he talked about it.

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01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 2: With Bronnie's recruitment, of like he enjoyed the visits as

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01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:58,360
Speaker 2: much as Bronnie did because he didn't really get to

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Speaker 2: take him when he was in high school because everybod

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01:47:00,040 --> 01:47:00,519
Speaker 2: he knew he.

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Speaker 1: Was going pro.

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01:47:01,120 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 2: There were schools wouldn't even bring him on campus because

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01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:04,920
Speaker 2: they said, we know you're not coming.

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01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 1: Are you with me?

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01:47:05,520 --> 01:47:08,719
Speaker 7: Though that when you hear that sentence, it's usually someone

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01:47:08,760 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 7: who's going to be scrapping and maybe you have to

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01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 7: have a part time job on this side.

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01:47:12,360 --> 01:47:12,519
Speaker 9: Fir.

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01:47:14,000 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 1: Bronnie's Bronnie is what the number ten right now pick

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01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:20,599
Speaker 1: according to draft experts, somewhere in that neighborhood. I think

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01:47:20,640 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 1: of what Jonathan Giboni said, he's number ten in the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four draft.

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Speaker 2: We'll say I think that's based largely on it's a

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01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 2: package deal. If you take Brownie, he's not And I

2225
01:47:31,240 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 2: feel bad because it's not Bronnie putting that stuff out.

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Speaker 2: He's just there to play basketball. But he will not

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Speaker 2: be the tenth most talented. No, this is no disrespect.

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01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to say that, but I don't think

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01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,879
Speaker 2: he is will be one of the ten best prospects

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Speaker 2: in the twenty twenty four nf NBA Draft.

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Speaker 7: And I hope he continues his USC education.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I think they might man degree.

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01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:56,160
Speaker 7: Absolutely plenty of guy Vince, Isaiah Thomas, et cetera. You know,

2234
01:47:56,280 --> 01:47:58,840
Speaker 7: promise mom, they do it, and they will up doing it.

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01:47:58,840 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 7: It's a great accomplishment.

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01:48:00,000 --> 01:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Think it was where Shan Garry. I saw just finished

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01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 2: his Michigan degree this week, So it happens.

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Speaker 7: It's just it's an odd statement. It is, you know, congratulations.

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01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 7: It is a great day for the family. But what

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Speaker 7: if us he's done in March with its basketball season

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Speaker 7: and he withdraws and doesn't even make it through one

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Speaker 7: year of college, first one in our family to go

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Speaker 7: to college.

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Speaker 1: I'm cold water de saga over here, just dramaze all over.

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Speaker 7: I'll repeat what I said. I hope he finishes his

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01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 7: USC education. That would be great. And two notes about

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01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,799
Speaker 7: the Lakers and lebron as they did dominate Golden States

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01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,679
Speaker 7: in the playoff game tonight, one twenty seven to ninety seven.

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01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 7: LA Times pointing out that in the previous game where

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Speaker 7: the Lakers got blown out, Lebron James and Anthony Davis

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01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 7: got to rest the fourth quarter, and tonight, blowing out

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01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,400
Speaker 7: the Warriors, they got to rest most of the fourth quarter.

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01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:54,480
Speaker 7: That's notable when your two stars are in this situation,

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01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:56,960
Speaker 7: not just age, but the mileage with those two. So

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01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,719
Speaker 7: the Lakers are up two games to one after blitzing

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01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 7: the war Warriors, who committed nineteen turnovers. And how about

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01:49:03,240 --> 01:49:07,679
Speaker 7: this for the night for Lebron James. Since turnovers were

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01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:11,120
Speaker 7: first tracked in the NBA over forty years ago, he's

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01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 7: the one guy tonight who's had a playoff game with

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Speaker 7: at least twenty points, eight rebounds, eight assists, no turnovers,

2261
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Speaker 7: and did not commit a foul Tonight that was Lebron James.

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01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:26,719
Speaker 7: Evening Anthony Davis had twenty five points thirteen rebounds. Lakers

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01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 7: up to one in the series, host game four on

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01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:32,400
Speaker 7: Monday night. Miami, eight seed in the East, is up

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01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:35,080
Speaker 7: to one in its second round series after beating up

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Speaker 7: New York one oh five eighty six. Jimmy Butler did play.

2267
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 7: He'd missed the previous game with the sprained ankle. Had

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Speaker 7: twenty eight points. Stanley Cup Playoffs Edmonton a five to

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01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:46,680
Speaker 7: one winner at Vegas to tie up that series at

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01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:50,080
Speaker 7: a game apiece. Mage won the Kentucky derby Nascars on

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Speaker 7: FS one tomorrow from Kansas three pm Eastern time. You

2272
01:49:53,800 --> 01:49:56,920
Speaker 7: reference the late ballgame at Seattle tonight. Mariners won at

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01:49:56,960 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 7: seven runs in the bottom of the eighth, got a

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01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 7: seven to three lead, and held on seven to five

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01:50:01,120 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 7: over Houston. All seven runs in that eighth inning came

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Speaker 7: with two outs. The rally started with a two out walk,

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Speaker 7: then a couple of infield singles, and on they went.

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Speaker 7: The Houston Astros record is seventeen and sixteen. Dodgers won

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01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,680
Speaker 7: two to one at San Diego, Texas a ten to

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Speaker 7: one win over the Angels in Anaheim thanks to seven

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Speaker 7: runs in the top of the ninth. Boston won its

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Speaker 7: eighth in a row seven to four at Philadelphia Braves

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Speaker 7: five to four over Baltimore on a two run home

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Speaker 7: or bottom of the eighth. Yankees won at Tampa Bay

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01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,000
Speaker 7: three to two with three runs top of the eighth.

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Speaker 7: Detroit won its fifth straight game, a ten inning win

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Speaker 7: at Saint Louis six's five. The Cardinals have lost eight

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Speaker 7: in a row and guys at Cinco de Mayo weekend.

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Speaker 7: So Canelo Alvarez is fighting somewhere. It was in Mexico tonight,

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Speaker 7: in fact, and he beats the dreaded John Ryder by

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01:50:48,439 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 7: unanimous decision. In fact, one judge gave Canello all twelve

2292
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:57,680
Speaker 7: rounds as he retains the undisputed super middleweight championship. Alvarez

2293
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,639
Speaker 7: did have a fifth round knockdown as well, and there's

2294
01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 7: UFC in Newark tonight as they head to the finale

2295
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,840
Speaker 7: of the evening Sehudo against Sterling Back Team.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Disager, Fox Sports Radio, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Saturday, Eric Torres, Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee

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Speaker 2: Tireck dot Com studios to Saga will be back with

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Speaker 2: us in just a moment or two for his extended Update,

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Speaker 2: which he does every Saturday at about twelve forty five Eastern.

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Speaker 2: So I guess it's technically Sunday, but you get the point,

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Speaker 2: Jason really quick. You know, we went a little long

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Speaker 2: on the NFC, so let's just very quickly the AFC,

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Speaker 2: I mean I'll say this is that I am in

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01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:37,280
Speaker 2: the business of the last couple of years. You know,

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01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:40,880
Speaker 2: I've been a bold Maybe Casey takes a step back. Guy,

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Speaker 2: I did it, especially this past offseason losing Tyreek Hill.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be something that was

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01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 2: clearly not as big as it was since Casey won

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01:51:49,840 --> 01:51:53,080
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. So Casey is again your defending super

2311
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:55,800
Speaker 2: Bowl champs. They've essentially what is it now, five straight

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01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 2: AFC championship games, three Super Bowl appearances in the last

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01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:03,320
Speaker 2: four seasons. Who do you deem in the AFC to

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01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:06,640
Speaker 2: be the biggest threat? Because it's interesting, right, Like, on

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01:52:06,680 --> 01:52:10,559
Speaker 2: the one hand, nobody obviously jumps out. Nobody obviously jumps

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01:52:10,560 --> 01:52:14,280
Speaker 2: out in the NFC for Philadelphia. In the AFC, there's

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01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:17,680
Speaker 2: a lot of good teams, but obviously again there have

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01:52:17,840 --> 01:52:20,000
Speaker 2: been good teams, and nobody can get past to this

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Speaker 2: case team these last few years.

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Speaker 1: I would say Cincinnati personally, because Burrow has gotten farther

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Speaker 1: than Josh Allen has to this point in their career.

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01:52:30,120 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 1: I still like Buffalo, but McDermott right now is kind

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01:52:33,800 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 1: of in that Mike Budenholzer situation where eventually somebody's gonna

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01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 1: get tired of them not getting to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: And it's not gonna fall on Allen First. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: fall on McDermott Miami. I need to see if their

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01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:49,280
Speaker 1: quarterback can stay healthy long enough for them to be good.

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Speaker 1: I don't buy into the Jets. I think they're gonna

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01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:53,320
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. They might be a playoff team,

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01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:57,960
Speaker 1: probably should be, but it's still a loaded conference. I

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01:52:58,120 --> 01:53:00,360
Speaker 1: just I don't think this Aaron Rodgers is one from

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01:53:00,360 --> 01:53:03,360
Speaker 1: five years ago. I don't think many people do. Baltimore.

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01:53:03,560 --> 01:53:07,600
Speaker 1: I'm not really a buyer there. I'm intrigued by Jacksonville.

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Speaker 1: I think Jacksonville could be pretty good, and you've got

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Speaker 1: a lot of new starters in the AFC South. We'll

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Speaker 1: see if it's Tannehill or if they end up going

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01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:17,280
Speaker 1: with Will Levis at some point during the year there.

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Speaker 1: The other team that I'm out on completely for right

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01:53:20,360 --> 01:53:24,880
Speaker 1: now is the Chargers. I'm out. I'm gonna have to

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01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:27,919
Speaker 1: see it because I've seen too much. On the other side,

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:31,080
Speaker 1: I really like Justin Herbert. I don't think they should

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01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: have brought the head coach back. I think that was

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01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:36,519
Speaker 1: a mistake bringing Stay back personally, I think that that's

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01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,120
Speaker 1: gonna be another squandered year, and we're gonna have the

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01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,479
Speaker 1: same discussion we had in the offseason last year is

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01:53:41,560 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: this year. So if you're asking me, I believe in

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01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,599
Speaker 1: Cincinnati because I love that quarterback and I love their

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01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,800
Speaker 1: skill talent, and I actually think Zach too was an

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01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: underrated head coach. And then I maybe probably Buffalo, and

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01:53:54,560 --> 01:53:56,160
Speaker 1: then I think Jacksonville is interesting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll just say really quick. You know, obviously we

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01:53:59,280 --> 01:54:02,120
Speaker 2: have many months to make our NFL preseason predictions, but

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01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,920
Speaker 2: Buffalo is the team. I just think it ended so

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01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 2: bad last year. I don't think they recover it from

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01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:11,559
Speaker 2: the perspective where they're in the conversation for a number

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01:54:11,640 --> 01:54:13,800
Speaker 2: one seed. And like you said, I do think there

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01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 2: is a lot of pressure on McDermott going into this

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01:54:17,320 --> 01:54:20,360
Speaker 2: year just because it ended so badly.

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Speaker 1: It looks so sloppy at the end.

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Speaker 2: By the way, they weren't great in their opening round

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01:54:23,800 --> 01:54:27,560
Speaker 2: playoff game either against Skyler Thompson and the Miami Dolphins.

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01:54:28,160 --> 01:54:30,560
Speaker 2: So we'll get to we have plenty of time to

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01:54:30,600 --> 01:54:32,720
Speaker 2: talk about it, but I am out on the Bills

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01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,320
Speaker 2: going into this year. Fox Sports radio erin Tors Jason

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01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:38,680
Speaker 2: Martin coming up. As we do every Saturday, we'll toss

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01:54:38,720 --> 01:54:41,120
Speaker 2: it over the news desk to Steger with an extended

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01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:45,720
Speaker 2: update coming up. That's next. Fox Sports Radio Welcome back,

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Speaker 2: Saturday in the Sunday around twelve forty five Eastern time

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Speaker 2: news desk to Seger Floors, Yours.

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Speaker 7: First and foremost, A happy birthday to an American sports legend.

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01:55:17,080 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 7: Willie Mays turned ninety two today. The Hall of Famer

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01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:24,200
Speaker 7: in his long career. I looked it up, just over

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Speaker 7: three thousand games played and almost three thousand, three hundred hits. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: three oh one hitter and six hundred and sixty homers.

2381
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 7: All that I need as far as his place in

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01:55:36,040 --> 01:55:38,360
Speaker 7: history is that the late great Vince Gully once said,

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01:55:38,360 --> 01:55:41,040
Speaker 7: Willie Mays is the greatest player I ever saw.

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw. I think it was, Tim Brando

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01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:44,720
Speaker 2: said today, and I thought it was an interesting point.

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01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:49,200
Speaker 2: He said, not only all of this, but that essentially

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01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:51,640
Speaker 2: he played his whole career Candlestick Park or his whole

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01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 2: you know, a good.

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Speaker 7: Child once they moved, sure, and that.

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Speaker 2: He tim I think it was, Tim Brando said, and

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01:55:57,320 --> 01:55:59,080
Speaker 2: it's just his opinion, but that he believed that he

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01:55:59,080 --> 01:56:01,360
Speaker 2: would also be the home run champ on top of

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01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,040
Speaker 2: everything else if he didn't play in that crazy ballpark

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01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:05,680
Speaker 2: with the crazy win coming in off.

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Speaker 1: Of the bay.

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01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:06,960
Speaker 2: I thought it was an interesting point.

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Speaker 7: It's interesting because he had almost no fifty homer seasons

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01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:14,280
Speaker 7: and still was what number three behind Aaron and Ruth

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01:56:14,360 --> 01:56:17,880
Speaker 7: for so many years? Plus the defense, my goodness, twelve

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01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,440
Speaker 7: goal gloves on top of that, and in over twenty

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01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 7: All Star games. Did you know that when he finally

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01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,120
Speaker 7: made the Hall of Fame in the late nineteen seventies,

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01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:29,840
Speaker 7: he got ninety five percent of the vote. Who out

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01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,360
Speaker 7: there and then the five percent does not think Willie

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 7: Mays is a first ballot Hall of favor somebody?

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01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,880
Speaker 1: So who are There's somebody every time like this is this?

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01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:40,760
Speaker 1: So this thing has to stop at some point? Was

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01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,040
Speaker 1: not about you? Was it?

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01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:45,880
Speaker 7: Okay, yeah, I think Tom sever had had the greatest

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01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:49,600
Speaker 7: percentage until then, but Willie Mays ninety five percent.

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01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,520
Speaker 1: Really, that's all five percent idiots.

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Speaker 2: Way kind of cool. He played in the Negro leagues.

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01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:59,520
Speaker 2: I think, you know, obviously, as history goes on, you know,

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01:56:59,560 --> 01:57:01,680
Speaker 2: we forget. I don't know if we forget, but like

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01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 2: it's just cool, like you know that that was a

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01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,160
Speaker 2: league that I think, you know, we don't think of.

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01:57:06,360 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, very briefly, which I think like Jackie Robinson

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01:57:09,800 --> 01:57:12,640
Speaker 7: very briefly in the nineteen forties made appearance in that

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01:57:12,720 --> 01:57:15,600
Speaker 7: league and then started out as Rookie of the Year

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Speaker 7: nineteen fifty one. Willie Mays and MVP not too long

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Speaker 7: after that, and on and on and on. You guys

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01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 7: referenced it earlier. It's a gift from the TV ratings

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01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:28,919
Speaker 7: gods that we've got a matchup of Lakers versus Warriors

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01:57:28,960 --> 01:57:31,040
Speaker 7: here in the NBA playoffs, and it's only the second

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01:57:31,120 --> 01:57:33,360
Speaker 7: round for Crime out Loud. So here we had Tuesday

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01:57:33,440 --> 01:57:36,400
Speaker 7: night Game one in the Bay Area, TNT got over

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01:57:36,520 --> 01:57:40,400
Speaker 7: seven point three million viewers, which is the largest audience

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01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,960
Speaker 7: for a first or second round series on cable in

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Speaker 7: over a decade. The next night it was four and

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01:57:46,680 --> 01:57:50,240
Speaker 7: a half million viewers for the playoffs on TNT, and

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01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:54,960
Speaker 7: then Thursday back to Lakers Warriors, another seven point three million.

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01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 7: It's winning the night in the TV ratings even on Thursday,

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01:58:00,080 --> 01:58:02,400
Speaker 7: and there was a new episode of Young Sheldon, which

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01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:06,880
Speaker 7: usually always wins Thursday nights for CBS, not this past Thursday,

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01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:11,360
Speaker 7: because Lakers Warriors was on Cable. By comparison, the NHL

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01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:15,839
Speaker 7: doubleheader on Thursday night one point four million viewers. Anthony

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01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,320
Speaker 7: Davis with the on again, off again, he was certainly

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01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:21,080
Speaker 7: ought again tonight and the thirty point win over Golden State.

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01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 7: Don't let anybody tell you that he hasn't had two

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01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 7: good games in a row. Though he had two great

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01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,960
Speaker 7: games to end the last series. It's just he wasn't

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01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,240
Speaker 7: on the court that much when they clinched the series

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01:58:30,240 --> 01:58:33,440
Speaker 7: against Memphis, winning by forty. But here he start. In

2444
01:58:33,480 --> 01:58:36,880
Speaker 7: his last eight outings, it's a thirteen points and then

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01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 7: a thirty point game, twelve points, and then a thirty

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01:58:39,640 --> 01:58:42,120
Speaker 7: sixteen points and then a thirty and then tonight it

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01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:45,960
Speaker 7: was twenty five points, thirteen rebounds. So in this postseason,

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01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 7: in the odd numbered games like tonight, he's averaging twenty

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01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:54,000
Speaker 7: eight points, seventeen rebounds. Even numbered games, it's thirteen points,

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01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:59,120
Speaker 7: ten rebounds, and forty percent shooting. Weird Clay Thompson from

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01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 7: three point range. He was hitting threes early tonight, which

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01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,879
Speaker 7: meant that in the first nine quarters of this series

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01:59:05,320 --> 01:59:09,480
Speaker 7: seventeen threes, made seventeen of thirty two from long distance.

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01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:13,120
Speaker 7: But the Lakers won by thirty. They're they're winning the

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01:59:13,120 --> 01:59:16,320
Speaker 7: turnover battle in this series. They're winning the points in

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01:59:16,400 --> 01:59:19,240
Speaker 7: the paint as well, and they'll be hosting Game four,

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01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:22,120
Speaker 7: which is late Monday night. And we've got an eight

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01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,560
Speaker 7: seed that could be winning a second round series in

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01:59:24,600 --> 01:59:26,920
Speaker 7: the East. Miami beat up New York today one to

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01:59:27,320 --> 01:59:30,360
Speaker 7: five to eighty six, so they're up two games to one,

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01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,880
Speaker 7: and Jimmy Butler did play at twenty eight points.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve the Sager. This is Fox

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01:59:35,400 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 2: Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Air Tours. Jason Martin broadcasting

2464
01:59:39,120 --> 01:59:41,360
Speaker 2: live from Thetirek dot Com studios.

2465
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:42,160
Speaker 1: To Sager.

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01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:44,080
Speaker 2: Just got you updated on everything that happened in the

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01:59:44,080 --> 01:59:48,360
Speaker 2: world of sports this afternoon. But up next we'll discuss

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01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:53,200
Speaker 2: something that happened earlier this week. Joel mb wins the MVP,

2469
01:59:54,360 --> 01:59:57,240
Speaker 2: but did he deserve it? Was he the right guy?

2470
01:59:57,360 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 2: What does it mean for Yokitch? A lot of interesting

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:03,400
Speaker 2: conversation around the MVP. That's next. Fox Sports Adio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome man, everybody our full.

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02:00:07,880 --> 02:00:12,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Aertrus, Jason Martin. We are obviously taking

2474
02:00:12,880 --> 02:00:15,240
Speaker 2: you to the top of the hour. This is our

2475
02:00:15,320 --> 02:00:18,240
Speaker 2: fourth hour on air up until two am Eastern time.

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02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,640
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto of The Bernie Fratto Show will follow us. Bernie,

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02:00:22,680 --> 02:00:26,000
Speaker 2: of course, will join us in about twenty minutes. Jason,

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02:00:26,040 --> 02:00:28,040
Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot to talk to Bernie about today,

2479
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,760
Speaker 2: one topic we haven't gotten to and probably just best

2480
02:00:30,760 --> 02:00:33,760
Speaker 2: to save it for Bernie. Have you followed this Alabama

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02:00:33,800 --> 02:00:35,480
Speaker 2: baseball scandal, Jason.

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Speaker 1: Wild Man, It is wild. It just doesn't sound good

2483
02:00:39,440 --> 02:00:42,320
Speaker 1: at all, But you're right, Bernie will be the perfect

2484
02:00:42,320 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: person to have on to kind of get into it

2485
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:46,280
Speaker 1: in a little bit more detail. With the whole betting angle.

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02:00:46,560 --> 02:00:51,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely another banner day for Alabama athletics. Of course, we've

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Speaker 2: discussed plenty on the Brandon Miller situation, the Jermaine Burton

2488
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 2: situation dating back to the football season, a couple other

2489
02:00:58,440 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 2: arrests and assistant at athletic director arrested a few weeks ago,

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02:01:02,720 --> 02:01:04,920
Speaker 2: and now this baseball scandal. That will be one of

2491
02:01:05,000 --> 02:01:07,160
Speaker 2: many things we touch on with Bernie frat Er should mention,

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Speaker 2: talked a lot about the NBA Playoffs. Two games today,

2498
02:01:27,240 --> 02:01:31,600
Speaker 2: Lakers in dominant fashion take care of the Golden State

2499
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,880
Speaker 2: Warriors one twenty seven ninety seven. That was the late game.

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02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 2: The early game, Miami wins one oh five eighty six

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02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:41,560
Speaker 2: against the New York Knicks. Miami and Los Angeles take

2502
02:01:41,600 --> 02:01:45,040
Speaker 2: two to one series leads. But there was just kind

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02:01:45,040 --> 02:01:48,160
Speaker 2: of another story in general from the NBA this week, Jason,

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02:01:48,200 --> 02:01:50,200
Speaker 2: that I do want to get to, and that was

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Speaker 2: the NBA MVP being handed to Joelmbead and I have

2506
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,680
Speaker 2: a lot of different thoughts on this. I'll try to

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02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 2: be brief and then toss it over to you one.

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Speaker 2: You know, you could tell how much this meant to

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02:02:02,280 --> 02:02:05,840
Speaker 2: Joel Embiid. I'm not gonna criticize him. This was something

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02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:08,840
Speaker 2: that he's publicly campaigned for, and I'll be honest, I

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02:02:08,880 --> 02:02:11,720
Speaker 2: actually thought last year was the year where he had

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Speaker 2: a stronger case to win the award, even more so

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02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:16,360
Speaker 2: than this year. I mean, if you go back to

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02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:19,200
Speaker 2: last year, I think it's easy to forget now, but

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02:02:19,240 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: they're coming off of a year where they have the

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02:02:21,680 --> 02:02:26,720
Speaker 2: number one seed. They obviously had the wild Ben Simmons situation,

2517
02:02:26,920 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 2: and it's easy to forget now because like Ben Simmons

2518
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:31,600
Speaker 2: is just you know, on a milk cart. But like

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02:02:31,960 --> 02:02:34,480
Speaker 2: that was a big deal to start the year of

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02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:36,960
Speaker 2: this is an all Star caliber player that's refusing to

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02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,640
Speaker 2: show up. Now he's showing up and he's kind of

2522
02:02:38,640 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 2: being a jerk and he's kind of disrupting practice and whatever.

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02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:44,520
Speaker 2: And I felt like Joel Embiid and Doc Rivers were

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02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 2: the adults in the room. So Joel Embiid last year

2525
02:02:47,920 --> 02:02:50,240
Speaker 2: stats weren't quite as good, but played more games, and

2526
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:53,640
Speaker 2: I thought his value to the team was even more significant.

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02:02:53,640 --> 02:02:55,480
Speaker 2: But I bring it up to say he does win

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Speaker 2: the MVP. First question, Jason is I guess I'm just

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02:02:59,800 --> 02:03:02,160
Speaker 2: gonna to ask it, and we talked about this maybe

2530
02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:07,360
Speaker 2: three four weeks ago, but obviously the big story, I

2531
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:10,360
Speaker 2: guess you will probably three four five weeks ago, was

2532
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:14,120
Speaker 2: the Kendrick Perkins story that we did discuss when it

2533
02:03:14,200 --> 02:03:16,920
Speaker 2: felt as though Nicole Jokic was running away with a

2534
02:03:16,960 --> 02:03:21,680
Speaker 2: third straight MVP. Kendrick Perkins unofficially without saying it, accuses

2535
02:03:21,760 --> 02:03:26,040
Speaker 2: voters of racism, essentially insinuating that the only player since

2536
02:03:26,040 --> 02:03:28,160
Speaker 2: I think it was nineteen ninety or something like that,

2537
02:03:28,160 --> 02:03:31,320
Speaker 2: that have won three straight MVPs were Dirk Noovitsky and

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02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:34,200
Speaker 2: Steve Nash, who were both white guys. Jokic would have

2539
02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,960
Speaker 2: done the same, But it was interesting because it did

2540
02:03:37,000 --> 02:03:40,120
Speaker 2: feel like there was kind of a ground swell over

2541
02:03:40,120 --> 02:03:42,240
Speaker 2: the last couple weeks. It felt like, probably about six

2542
02:03:42,240 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 2: weeks ago, that it was Jokic's he was gonna win it.

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02:03:44,560 --> 02:03:46,120
Speaker 2: And it's not like he did something to lose it.

2544
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:47,560
Speaker 2: It's not like he got hurt and missed a bunch

2545
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:49,600
Speaker 2: of time. It's not like the team tanked. So I

2546
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:51,200
Speaker 2: guess when I'm trying to ask you, Jason, I don't

2547
02:03:51,200 --> 02:03:53,760
Speaker 2: know if there's even an answer to this, but do

2548
02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:57,360
Speaker 2: you think those comments may have impacted this MVP race, because,

2549
02:03:57,400 --> 02:03:59,680
Speaker 2: like I said, unless I'm missing something, it felt like

2550
02:03:59,720 --> 02:04:02,400
Speaker 2: it was Jokic is award to win as of about

2551
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 2: five six weeks ago.

2552
02:04:04,720 --> 02:04:08,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think that's a fair question to ask.

2553
02:04:08,920 --> 02:04:11,160
Speaker 1: The Perkins thing just makes me roll my eyes every

2554
02:04:11,200 --> 02:04:14,800
Speaker 1: time I hear it. It's just unfortunate. And then he

2555
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:17,200
Speaker 1: claimed that's not what he was trying to say when

2556
02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,000
Speaker 1: your best friend JJ Reddick pretty much called him out

2557
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 1: for it right there on television. Jokic is incredible, Embiid

2558
02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:28,200
Speaker 1: is incredible. I still think Giannis is the best player

2559
02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:30,200
Speaker 1: in the world. Just to go ahead and throw that

2560
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,640
Speaker 1: out there, those three guys, I'm not going to be

2561
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:35,240
Speaker 1: upset if you give it to one or the other.

2562
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:38,560
Speaker 1: Joel Embiid's a fantastic basketball player who had a great year,

2563
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:43,200
Speaker 1: and that team is nothing without him. In general, they

2564
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:45,520
Speaker 1: just aren't, and they haven't been for a long time.

2565
02:04:46,280 --> 02:04:50,840
Speaker 1: He's been excellent. I do think there could be a

2566
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:55,600
Speaker 1: little bit to the idea that Jokic lost steam because

2567
02:04:55,840 --> 02:04:58,960
Speaker 1: of the guilt that comes associated with the charges that

2568
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:02,000
Speaker 1: were levied in the direction of people voting for him,

2569
02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:04,560
Speaker 1: that then made them think well, maybe I was, and

2570
02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 1: generally speaking, no, you weren't. But that doesn't mean that

2571
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:11,440
Speaker 1: that can't make you think you were sure at which

2572
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 1: point you could change it around. I don't know for sure.

2573
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 1: I just wish that had not happened at all. I

2574
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:20,400
Speaker 1: would have liked to have seen Embiid. If Bee was

2575
02:05:20,440 --> 02:05:22,120
Speaker 1: gonna win it, I would have liked to have seen

2576
02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:24,960
Speaker 1: him earn it. I just remember the game where it

2577
02:05:25,000 --> 02:05:27,360
Speaker 1: was supposed to be Nugget Sixers on Saturday night and

2578
02:05:27,520 --> 02:05:30,000
Speaker 1: Bid didn't play, and Yokic did, and Yokic looked great,

2579
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:32,720
Speaker 1: and people said, well, Yokiic just won it right there

2580
02:05:33,160 --> 02:05:35,480
Speaker 1: because he had the opportunity. And then Perkins came out

2581
02:05:35,520 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: a few days later, and that's when this happened. And

2582
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:40,800
Speaker 1: then of course we get to now and Joel Embiid

2583
02:05:40,800 --> 02:05:45,080
Speaker 1: wins the MVP, and congratulations to him. It is well deserved.

2584
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:49,880
Speaker 1: It's just unfortunate that that question and where you took this, Aaron.

2585
02:05:50,280 --> 02:05:53,200
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate that that's valid, not that you took it there,

2586
02:05:53,240 --> 02:05:57,560
Speaker 1: but it's valid to have that discussion because honestly, that's

2587
02:05:57,880 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 1: that's beneath that's beneath the ward, and it's disrespectful to

2588
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:05,520
Speaker 1: both Embiid and Jokic and anybody else in the NBA.

2589
02:06:05,960 --> 02:06:09,440
Speaker 2: Totally agree, And you know, it's one where you know,

2590
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:14,160
Speaker 2: like you said, it's like I don't think there was anybody,

2591
02:06:14,200 --> 02:06:16,520
Speaker 2: I mean, JJ Reddick called him out. I mean, you know,

2592
02:06:16,560 --> 02:06:18,760
Speaker 2: and then this was the most annoying port was perkind.

2593
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:24,160
Speaker 2: I never said that wellating yeah, exactly, And so I

2594
02:06:24,600 --> 02:06:28,080
Speaker 2: tend to agree. Is that, Listen. I think it's one

2595
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:30,480
Speaker 2: of two things. It's either guilt about like you said,

2596
02:06:30,840 --> 02:06:33,440
Speaker 2: am I actually being a racist because I think Joel

2597
02:06:33,720 --> 02:06:37,240
Speaker 2: or Noeh Nokolajo Yokic should win. It's either that or

2598
02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:40,400
Speaker 2: it's really the reality of we're gonna give Jokic a

2599
02:06:40,440 --> 02:06:43,640
Speaker 2: third straight MVP, and really history tells us that that

2600
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:46,240
Speaker 2: just doesn't you know. MJ never won three in a row,

2601
02:06:46,440 --> 02:06:48,280
Speaker 2: Lebron has never won three in a row, Curry never

2602
02:06:48,280 --> 02:06:50,680
Speaker 2: won three in a row. Whatever. So let's take it

2603
02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:54,480
Speaker 2: to a different space, which is, you know, first of all,

2604
02:06:54,520 --> 02:06:56,280
Speaker 2: let me just ask a dumb question, like how do

2605
02:06:56,360 --> 02:06:57,440
Speaker 2: you feel about the MVP?

2606
02:06:57,600 --> 02:06:58,880
Speaker 1: Because I, like I.

2607
02:06:59,320 --> 02:07:02,320
Speaker 2: Remember probably it was the year before you and I

2608
02:07:02,360 --> 02:07:04,280
Speaker 2: started working together. It must have been the year that

2609
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:07,240
Speaker 2: Jokic won his first award, and I said, like, I

2610
02:07:07,240 --> 02:07:09,320
Speaker 2: thought Chris Paul should have won it. And I remember

2611
02:07:09,360 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 2: Arnie and I getting in an argument about it because Arnold, oh, well,

2612
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 2: how many points did you average? And it's like, well,

2613
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:19,200
Speaker 2: the word value is in the most valuable player. It's

2614
02:07:19,200 --> 02:07:21,160
Speaker 2: not the most outstanding player. And this has been my

2615
02:07:21,240 --> 02:07:24,240
Speaker 2: knock on the award over the last probably six seven years.

2616
02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:27,120
Speaker 2: I like to say, it's not the most valuable player,

2617
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:32,040
Speaker 2: it's it's we've changed it into the cool Stats Award award,

2618
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,920
Speaker 2: where basically it's it's the analytics and it's the this,

2619
02:07:35,080 --> 02:07:37,680
Speaker 2: and it's the that. And I don't think it reflects

2620
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:41,200
Speaker 2: who is the most valuable anymore. And so this year

2621
02:07:41,240 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 2: I don't I don't have like a I'm not gonna

2622
02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:46,720
Speaker 2: yell and scream because MBID won it over Jokic, But

2623
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:49,040
Speaker 2: last year I thought mb should have won it over Jokic.

2624
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:51,720
Speaker 2: Embiid again, all of the stuff that they dealt with

2625
02:07:51,760 --> 02:07:54,640
Speaker 2: as an organization the year before, when Chris Paul gets

2626
02:07:54,640 --> 02:07:57,600
Speaker 2: to Phoenix and they go from completely irrelevant to I

2627
02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:59,560
Speaker 2: believe it was a one seed. Obviously we didn't know

2628
02:07:59,560 --> 02:08:01,280
Speaker 2: they were gonna make the Finals at that point, but

2629
02:08:01,320 --> 02:08:03,880
Speaker 2: he completely flipped it the year before, by the way,

2630
02:08:03,960 --> 02:08:06,600
Speaker 2: I thought Lebron deserved it when he got the Lakers

2631
02:08:06,600 --> 02:08:08,600
Speaker 2: to a one seed going into that bubble.

2632
02:08:09,840 --> 02:08:11,080
Speaker 1: So I just, I guess.

2633
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:13,320
Speaker 2: The point I'm trying to make is I think we've

2634
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 2: completely like lost like like I guess, and it's like

2635
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:20,080
Speaker 2: anything else right is there's nowhere like like everyone has

2636
02:08:20,120 --> 02:08:22,680
Speaker 2: a little bit of a different interpretation of what the

2637
02:08:22,760 --> 02:08:25,360
Speaker 2: award should be. But I don't feel like it is

2638
02:08:25,480 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 2: any longer going to the most valuable person in the NBA.

2639
02:08:29,440 --> 02:08:31,640
Speaker 2: It does kind of frustrate me. Again, this isn't a

2640
02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:35,040
Speaker 2: year where I'm gonna scream and yell that Jokic totally

2641
02:08:35,040 --> 02:08:37,280
Speaker 2: got screwed or somebody else totally got screwed and be

2642
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,840
Speaker 2: did not deserve it at all. But you're talking about

2643
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,760
Speaker 2: a guy that played sixty six games. You know, he's

2644
02:08:41,800 --> 02:08:44,840
Speaker 2: a three seed in the East. Jokic got Denver to

2645
02:08:44,920 --> 02:08:45,760
Speaker 2: a one seed.

2646
02:08:46,360 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2647
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:49,240
Speaker 2: I just think we've kind of lost track of what

2648
02:08:49,400 --> 02:08:50,760
Speaker 2: this award is actually supposed to be.

2649
02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:52,120
Speaker 1: About, you know what I mean? Yeah, I mean I

2650
02:08:52,160 --> 02:08:54,520
Speaker 1: think your point about the how many points do the

2651
02:08:54,560 --> 02:08:57,760
Speaker 1: average the argument already made is a valid one. Also,

2652
02:08:57,800 --> 02:09:01,680
Speaker 1: it's like, well, I didn't say that Chris Paul should

2653
02:09:01,720 --> 02:09:04,160
Speaker 1: be the scoring champion. I said he should be the

2654
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:07,480
Speaker 1: MVP would have an award out. We give an award

2655
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:10,480
Speaker 1: out to the guy who averages the most points. The

2656
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,040
Speaker 1: guy with the highest batting average in baseball doesn't always

2657
02:09:13,040 --> 02:09:18,400
Speaker 1: win league MVP. There are different stats and awards given

2658
02:09:18,440 --> 02:09:21,440
Speaker 1: out for those different stats, but MVP needs to be

2659
02:09:21,480 --> 02:09:25,160
Speaker 1: an all encompassing award. How well do guys play around you,

2660
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:28,160
Speaker 1: how well do you play with others, how coachable are you?

2661
02:09:28,760 --> 02:09:31,480
Speaker 1: How many times have you just taken over a game

2662
02:09:31,880 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 1: in various capacities, How do your peers view you? I mean,

2663
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:38,120
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different things that should go into it.

2664
02:09:38,160 --> 02:09:40,400
Speaker 1: I think Joki would factor in pretty high. If you

2665
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 1: ask me the playoff MVP right now is, I'd say

2666
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:45,720
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, who we talked about earlier in the show.

2667
02:09:46,760 --> 02:09:50,880
Speaker 1: The problem with MVP is there's not an objective definition

2668
02:09:51,560 --> 02:09:56,160
Speaker 1: to describe what most valuable actually means, and so you

2669
02:09:56,360 --> 02:09:59,520
Speaker 1: then have to look at it through your lens of value,

2670
02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:03,200
Speaker 1: and some people look at value only based on a

2671
02:10:03,200 --> 02:10:08,640
Speaker 1: certain limited statistical category instead of the whole breadth of

2672
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,840
Speaker 1: what a basketball player offers, or what any athlete and

2673
02:10:11,880 --> 02:10:16,360
Speaker 1: any sport offers. As such, it's a flawed metric because

2674
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:20,880
Speaker 1: everyone has their own eyes, their own biases. They are

2675
02:10:21,040 --> 02:10:24,840
Speaker 1: things that they think represent what most valuable should mean,

2676
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:27,960
Speaker 1: and from one person to the next, it's not the same.

2677
02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:32,360
Speaker 2: I totally agree with that, And yeah, I just think

2678
02:10:32,400 --> 02:10:35,400
Speaker 2: over the years, you know, like Yokich is a perfect example,

2679
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:37,920
Speaker 2: is like last year it just felt like, okay, like

2680
02:10:38,000 --> 02:10:40,240
Speaker 2: the Nuggets were good, but they weren't elite. They weren't

2681
02:10:40,280 --> 02:10:42,720
Speaker 2: as good as they are this year. And I think

2682
02:10:42,760 --> 02:10:45,440
Speaker 2: people just get too enamored with the stats as opposed

2683
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:48,320
Speaker 2: to what the word value means. And you know, it's

2684
02:10:48,360 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 2: kind of cliche, but I kind of look at it

2685
02:10:49,920 --> 02:10:52,200
Speaker 2: as you know, like what is the story of the like,

2686
02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:54,320
Speaker 2: you know, when we look back on the season as

2687
02:10:54,360 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 2: a whole, like what is the story going to be? Whatever?

2688
02:10:57,600 --> 02:10:59,360
Speaker 2: And so it's just, you know, it's just something I've

2689
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:01,480
Speaker 2: been thinking about out and like I said, this isn't

2690
02:11:01,480 --> 02:11:03,200
Speaker 2: the year for me to yell and scream and get

2691
02:11:03,240 --> 02:11:05,880
Speaker 2: on my you know, get on my soapbox about it.

2692
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 2: But I feel like there's been previous years. You know,

2693
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,480
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago, like I said, Lebron takes

2694
02:11:10,520 --> 02:11:13,000
Speaker 2: the Lakers to a one seed, has them in position

2695
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:16,000
Speaker 2: prior to the season being postponed because of COVID. Then

2696
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:19,800
Speaker 2: a year later, Chris Paul completely elevates an entire organization

2697
02:11:19,960 --> 02:11:22,200
Speaker 2: isn't given the credit for it. And I thought MB

2698
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,320
Speaker 2: did the same much last year, and I actually think

2699
02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:27,120
Speaker 2: Jokic did it this year as well, getting the Nuggets

2700
02:11:27,120 --> 02:11:30,240
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2711
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2712
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2713
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Speaker 2: the hour. But he joins us, now, Bernie Frattle, what's

2717
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Speaker 2: up man? How you doing?

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02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 3: Gentlemen? Of good evening.

2719
02:12:35,720 --> 02:12:37,520
Speaker 5: And by the way, Jason, I know it's probably none

2720
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:39,480
Speaker 5: of my business, but do you, by any chance have

2721
02:12:39,560 --> 02:12:40,800
Speaker 5: a Detroit lionce schedule?

2722
02:12:40,880 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 3: Magnan on your.

2723
02:12:41,520 --> 02:12:45,360
Speaker 2: Frie Christophett's gonna have you put one up by the

2724
02:12:45,600 --> 02:12:45,960
Speaker 2: by the time.

2725
02:12:46,120 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 5: Fuck, I gotta tell you real quickly. The NFL Scots,

2726
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:51,440
Speaker 5: I know, I think they had a great draft. They

2727
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 5: picked up four starters. Obviously when they couldn't get Devin Withers,

2728
02:12:54,160 --> 02:12:56,600
Speaker 5: but when they pivoted, and the only knock is they

2729
02:12:56,600 --> 02:12:58,800
Speaker 5: probably would have gotten Jami or Gibbs in the second round.

2730
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:01,560
Speaker 5: But Jack Campbell six I two fifty one run to

2731
02:13:01,600 --> 02:13:04,960
Speaker 5: four or five forty a wild man tackle machine. He'll

2732
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:07,520
Speaker 5: start Sam Laporta the tight end, He'll start Brian Branch

2733
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:08,040
Speaker 5: will start.

2734
02:13:08,240 --> 02:13:09,800
Speaker 3: They got themselves a nice draft, but.

2735
02:13:10,000 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 2: Real quick before we get to the Albama baseball stuff

2736
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:14,560
Speaker 2: and everything else. You know the lines better than anybody else.

2737
02:13:14,720 --> 02:13:16,360
Speaker 2: We were talking about this with Chris a minute ago.

2738
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:19,360
Speaker 2: Do you have any fundamental issue with taking Jamiir Gibbs

2739
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,400
Speaker 2: as early as they did. I mean, I get that

2740
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:23,840
Speaker 2: heat in theory could have been available in the second round,

2741
02:13:24,240 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 2: but as weird, I don't know. I just I feel like, listen,

2742
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:29,880
Speaker 2: you want to put Jared Goff in a position to succeed. No,

2743
02:13:30,040 --> 02:13:32,240
Speaker 2: Jamison Williams for the first six weeks. I know Jamison

2744
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:34,720
Speaker 2: Williams is a wide receiver. Jamiir Gibbs is a running back,

2745
02:13:34,960 --> 02:13:36,600
Speaker 2: but he's kind of one of those versatile New age

2746
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:38,800
Speaker 2: running backs that can catch the ball for you out

2747
02:13:38,800 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 2: of the backfield, can run between the tackles.

2748
02:13:41,200 --> 02:13:42,760
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any problem with it.

2749
02:13:42,680 --> 02:13:45,000
Speaker 2: But it seemed like on social media that was one

2750
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:46,240
Speaker 2: that most people disagree with.

2751
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:48,120
Speaker 3: Uh.

2752
02:13:48,320 --> 02:13:51,960
Speaker 5: When I did my research and allowed the dust to

2753
02:13:52,000 --> 02:13:54,720
Speaker 5: settle and looked at it in a panoramic threeater in

2754
02:13:54,760 --> 02:13:57,640
Speaker 5: sixty degree view, and it was explained to me, it

2755
02:13:57,720 --> 02:14:00,160
Speaker 5: made sense. I remember in two thousand and seven, the

2756
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:03,480
Speaker 5: Lions drafted Calvin Johnson number one, or he was their

2757
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:06,120
Speaker 5: first pick. I said, I love the player, but I

2758
02:14:06,160 --> 02:14:08,200
Speaker 5: don't love the pick because they have needs all over

2759
02:14:08,200 --> 02:14:10,720
Speaker 5: the field. But when you look at the Lions draft

2760
02:14:10,720 --> 02:14:14,920
Speaker 5: in total, and then they trade DeAndre Swift and you

2761
02:14:15,040 --> 02:14:19,680
Speaker 5: realize and then within the total comprehensive nature of their draft,

2762
02:14:19,680 --> 02:14:22,760
Speaker 5: they got four starters, including Jamira Gibbs. And you say

2763
02:14:22,800 --> 02:14:24,960
Speaker 5: to yourself, with your first pick in the first round,

2764
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,600
Speaker 5: that guy better step on the field to be productive

2765
02:14:27,640 --> 02:14:29,840
Speaker 5: in the first year. And you say to yourself, I

2766
02:14:29,880 --> 02:14:31,960
Speaker 5: can get five years out of this guy. You can

2767
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 5: answer both those questions. Yes, So I'm okay with it.

2768
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:38,280
Speaker 2: Now, Burn, let's go to exactly what I just said

2769
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:42,040
Speaker 2: from there and pivot to a very serious topic. That's

2770
02:14:42,040 --> 02:14:45,160
Speaker 2: this Alabama baseball story. I think everybody's kind of seen

2771
02:14:45,200 --> 02:14:48,160
Speaker 2: the details by now, but Alabama's baseball coach was fired

2772
02:14:48,200 --> 02:14:51,520
Speaker 2: this week. SEC baseball is a big deal, but it

2773
02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:55,440
Speaker 2: came following an investigation from some, to say the least,

2774
02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:59,440
Speaker 2: some fishy betting activity on an Alabama baseball game. We've

2775
02:14:59,480 --> 02:15:01,240
Speaker 2: read the headline, but we know you always can take

2776
02:15:01,320 --> 02:15:03,160
Speaker 2: us deeper than the headlines. What can you share with

2777
02:15:03,240 --> 02:15:04,280
Speaker 2: us about that story.

2778
02:15:04,200 --> 02:15:06,080
Speaker 3: I'll take you deeper than the headlines.

2779
02:15:06,680 --> 02:15:09,360
Speaker 5: I don't want to share the whole story, but I

2780
02:15:09,400 --> 02:15:10,440
Speaker 5: will tell you a lot.

2781
02:15:10,520 --> 02:15:12,840
Speaker 3: And I think the conclusion.

2782
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:15,400
Speaker 5: Here is is the system works when you have highly

2783
02:15:15,480 --> 02:15:20,160
Speaker 5: reputable organizations like US Betting and Tegory here in Nevada

2784
02:15:20,240 --> 02:15:23,520
Speaker 5: that keep these things straight. What ends up happening is

2785
02:15:24,080 --> 02:15:27,200
Speaker 5: that we realize that now that everything's come out of

2786
02:15:27,200 --> 02:15:31,400
Speaker 5: the shadows from from underground improprieties like this where information

2787
02:15:31,600 --> 02:15:36,440
Speaker 5: can you know, create an unfair playing field for you

2788
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,800
Speaker 5: to the player or the book gets kiboshed.

2789
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:40,520
Speaker 3: So here's the chronology.

2790
02:15:41,120 --> 02:15:44,360
Speaker 5: Friday night, about an hour before the game, an individual

2791
02:15:44,440 --> 02:15:48,040
Speaker 5: on a cell phone at Great American Ballpark, adjacent to

2792
02:15:48,040 --> 02:15:50,000
Speaker 5: the betting kiosk was on the phone and he kept

2793
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:53,560
Speaker 5: referring to somebody as coach. Well, that caught the ear

2794
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:57,320
Speaker 5: of the attendant behind the counter, and the surveillance cameras

2795
02:15:57,360 --> 02:15:59,680
Speaker 5: are very sophisticated, and when they honed in and did

2796
02:15:59,680 --> 02:16:02,280
Speaker 5: it tight shot, the name on the phone came up.

2797
02:16:02,920 --> 02:16:06,880
Speaker 5: My understanding was Brad Bohannon, who's the head basketball coach

2798
02:16:07,080 --> 02:16:12,680
Speaker 5: of Alabama. Now I'm sorry, Baseball. Thanks Here on bottom line,

2799
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,920
Speaker 5: and to be fair, my sources tell me that Brad

2800
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:18,120
Speaker 5: Bohannon did not bet on the game, nor did he

2801
02:16:18,160 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 5: even attempt to bet on the game. But a conversation

2802
02:16:20,360 --> 02:16:23,880
Speaker 5: ensued and once the player hung up the phone, he

2803
02:16:23,960 --> 02:16:26,840
Speaker 5: approached the kiosk attempted to make a very sizeable bet.

2804
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:28,200
Speaker 5: I know the emology to say it was more than

2805
02:16:28,200 --> 02:16:31,200
Speaker 5: six figures. He was ky boshed on the spot. They

2806
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:34,320
Speaker 5: allowed a much smaller bet, and the metadata shows that

2807
02:16:34,360 --> 02:16:37,120
Speaker 5: after he humped the phone about ten minutes after they

2808
02:16:37,280 --> 02:16:40,600
Speaker 5: changed pictures and LSU led eight to one early. They

2809
02:16:40,640 --> 02:16:42,120
Speaker 5: ended up winning eight to six, so the bet was

2810
02:16:42,120 --> 02:16:45,080
Speaker 5: going to be made on LSU. An investigation ensued, lots

2811
02:16:45,080 --> 02:16:48,039
Speaker 5: of interviews were done, signed Affi David's you know were

2812
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:50,480
Speaker 5: put forth as to what took place, and at the

2813
02:16:50,560 --> 02:16:53,959
Speaker 5: end of the day, the Alabama coach lost his Ford

2814
02:16:53,959 --> 02:16:56,680
Speaker 5: and fifty thousand dollars gig. So we have a series

2815
02:16:56,680 --> 02:16:58,959
Speaker 5: of checks and balances where these things do work.

2816
02:17:00,000 --> 02:17:03,920
Speaker 1: It's so for Bohannon, is this it for him? And

2817
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't mean it Alabam We already know that, But

2818
02:17:06,400 --> 02:17:09,280
Speaker 1: is this something you don't come back from? I mean

2819
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:12,119
Speaker 1: the second portion of the story obviously is much more

2820
02:17:12,200 --> 02:17:15,080
Speaker 1: damning with the pitching change ten minutes after and all

2821
02:17:15,200 --> 02:17:17,760
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. This seems like the kind of

2822
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:19,040
Speaker 1: thing that could end your career.

2823
02:17:20,320 --> 02:17:23,400
Speaker 5: Well it could, we don't know. I will draw a

2824
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:27,039
Speaker 5: parallel because I was working the phones pretty hard, and

2825
02:17:27,160 --> 02:17:29,880
Speaker 5: I thought about Jalen Carter when we first learned to

2826
02:17:29,879 --> 02:17:32,440
Speaker 5: the jalenr I'm drawing a quick parallel Jason when we

2827
02:17:32,480 --> 02:17:34,080
Speaker 5: first learned to the Jalen Carter incident.

2828
02:17:34,360 --> 02:17:36,080
Speaker 3: All right, is he gonna drop out of the first round?

2829
02:17:36,120 --> 02:17:37,800
Speaker 3: Is anybody gonna want him on? All? What's going on?

2830
02:17:38,200 --> 02:17:40,520
Speaker 5: Well, the NFL's got I talked to you basically said, look,

2831
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:43,800
Speaker 5: if something like that happens, and you already know the

2832
02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:45,600
Speaker 5: kid can plain and you like him and he's productive.

2833
02:17:45,600 --> 02:17:47,080
Speaker 5: If you've tried to find out, is he a good

2834
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:49,959
Speaker 5: kid that made a bad mistake, and we can have

2835
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:53,040
Speaker 5: a situation where he loves ball, he gets into our

2836
02:17:53,040 --> 02:17:55,480
Speaker 5: support system and you judge him on what he does

2837
02:17:55,520 --> 02:17:57,640
Speaker 5: from that point, or you got a bad apple here.

2838
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:00,840
Speaker 5: I think Brad Bohannan had a long good reputation in

2839
02:18:00,840 --> 02:18:04,320
Speaker 5: the South and in the SEC, and I think he

2840
02:18:04,440 --> 02:18:05,640
Speaker 5: probably will work again.

2841
02:18:05,680 --> 02:18:06,520
Speaker 3: And I think it helps.

2842
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 5: It's again, my sources told me he did not bet

2843
02:18:08,440 --> 02:18:10,200
Speaker 5: on the game, nor did he even attempt to bet

2844
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:12,959
Speaker 5: on the game. These two guys drop their guard. They

2845
02:18:12,959 --> 02:18:14,959
Speaker 5: did something they shouldn't have done, and I you know,

2846
02:18:15,000 --> 02:18:18,400
Speaker 5: it cost him, So I think it's it's not He's

2847
02:18:18,440 --> 02:18:20,480
Speaker 5: not going to be cast in a favorable light. But

2848
02:18:20,520 --> 02:18:22,920
Speaker 5: thank god nobody died, and thank god it wasn't that

2849
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:23,840
Speaker 5: much more serious.

2850
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:28,040
Speaker 1: Shifting gears to the NBA playoffs, you had told us

2851
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:31,640
Speaker 1: you believed in the Nuggets right when the playoffs started,

2852
02:18:31,760 --> 02:18:34,120
Speaker 1: and I could definitely see why as we've watched this

2853
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:36,920
Speaker 1: thing kind of unfold. But are you just as strong

2854
02:18:36,959 --> 02:18:39,720
Speaker 1: on them now or have you kind of joined many

2855
02:18:39,800 --> 02:18:43,000
Speaker 1: of the people that are watching the playoffs where everybody

2856
02:18:43,080 --> 02:18:46,560
Speaker 1: has a reason to worry about whoever they've picked being

2857
02:18:46,600 --> 02:18:47,440
Speaker 1: able to win it all?

2858
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:51,279
Speaker 5: Well, this is a wide open tournament in Milwaukee obviously

2859
02:18:51,640 --> 02:18:54,200
Speaker 5: is gone now. You don't know what you're getting out

2860
02:18:54,240 --> 02:18:58,400
Speaker 5: of Boston night tonight. Philadelphia is a fagas so is Phoenix.

2861
02:18:58,840 --> 02:19:01,920
Speaker 5: I still don't think they'll I give the Lakers top

2862
02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:04,280
Speaker 5: credit for what they're doing, but again, when you look

2863
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:07,280
Speaker 5: at the Nuggets break down, their roster. They're healthy, they

2864
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:10,440
Speaker 5: play defense, they play offense. Nikola Jokich is at a

2865
02:19:10,520 --> 02:19:12,000
Speaker 5: much higher level than Joel Mbidias.

2866
02:19:12,040 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 3: I don't care.

2867
02:19:13,280 --> 02:19:15,200
Speaker 5: You can have your award. Would you rather have your

2868
02:19:15,240 --> 02:19:17,440
Speaker 5: award or win a championship? You got your award, Now

2869
02:19:17,480 --> 02:19:20,160
Speaker 5: you're not gonna get a championship. Jolkic might get a

2870
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:23,039
Speaker 5: championship when you've got the best player. I think that's

2871
02:19:23,080 --> 02:19:25,840
Speaker 5: still playing on either, you know, in the entire league,

2872
02:19:26,040 --> 02:19:28,000
Speaker 5: and you've got that offense in that defense, and they're

2873
02:19:28,080 --> 02:19:30,160
Speaker 5: under the raider. I don't know why they're getting any respect.

2874
02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:31,720
Speaker 5: So I'm sticking with Denver all the way.

2875
02:19:32,360 --> 02:19:36,080
Speaker 2: Burn you were all over when the story came out

2876
02:19:36,120 --> 02:19:38,840
Speaker 2: that the A's group was interested in buying land in Vegas.

2877
02:19:38,879 --> 02:19:41,320
Speaker 2: You were all over. Let's not put the car before

2878
02:19:41,360 --> 02:19:43,560
Speaker 2: the horse. It doesn't mean the A's are moving to Vegas.

2879
02:19:43,600 --> 02:19:46,080
Speaker 2: What is there any update? Is there any latest at

2880
02:19:46,160 --> 02:19:48,199
Speaker 2: least from the Vegas perspective. I know you're out there,

2881
02:19:48,879 --> 02:19:50,160
Speaker 2: you know, working the phones out there.

2882
02:19:50,879 --> 02:19:54,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, so the legislature is starting to meet where you know,

2883
02:19:55,600 --> 02:19:58,920
Speaker 5: It's an honest thing I've ever seen the A's have

2884
02:19:59,000 --> 02:20:01,680
Speaker 5: their franchise set up on Vegas, they've bought land or

2885
02:20:01,680 --> 02:20:05,400
Speaker 5: they've entered into a binding agreement to by land. They

2886
02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:09,359
Speaker 5: don't have an artists rendering, they don't have an architect,

2887
02:20:09,760 --> 02:20:12,480
Speaker 5: they don't have any of the financing in place. And

2888
02:20:12,600 --> 02:20:16,119
Speaker 5: in cities like Salt Lake and Nashville, and I think

2889
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:20,480
Speaker 5: even Portland and Orlando, where you've got coalitions, we'll bring

2890
02:20:20,520 --> 02:20:22,600
Speaker 5: baseball to salt Lake. We don't even have that here. Now,

2891
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 5: be that as a man, I'm still giving it a

2892
02:20:24,120 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 5: fifty to fifty. Here's what has to happen. The as

2893
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:32,800
Speaker 5: have to convince the legislature that this tax district, with

2894
02:20:32,959 --> 02:20:36,520
Speaker 5: all the commerce and buildings and hotels around the stadium

2895
02:20:36,560 --> 02:20:39,760
Speaker 5: that will be built, will generate a tax revenue through

2896
02:20:39,800 --> 02:20:42,840
Speaker 5: property taxes and sales taxes to pay for the five

2897
02:20:42,920 --> 02:20:45,560
Speaker 5: hundred million dollars. Note that they want Clark County to

2898
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:49,640
Speaker 5: sell municipal bonds for to service that debt. It's right now,

2899
02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:51,480
Speaker 5: it feels a little bit like a pig and a pope.

2900
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:54,760
Speaker 5: The other thing is people want to juxtapose this against

2901
02:20:54,920 --> 02:20:58,200
Speaker 5: how we got allegiant stadium. Well Shell and Nangelson, a

2902
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:02,879
Speaker 5: philanthropist who is the CEO of Sands, really got the

2903
02:21:02,879 --> 02:21:05,800
Speaker 5: ball rolling on that played six hundred and fifty million dollars.

2904
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:09,520
Speaker 5: And once he got MGM and Caiezears on board, everybody

2905
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,039
Speaker 5: was on board. Then they got the politicians on board.

2906
02:21:12,080 --> 02:21:15,080
Speaker 5: Governor Bryan Sandoval was able to convince the state legislature

2907
02:21:15,440 --> 02:21:18,040
Speaker 5: that if we build this stadium, Las Vegas continues to

2908
02:21:18,040 --> 02:21:22,520
Speaker 5: be a world class tourism city, not just for the Raiders,

2909
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:24,600
Speaker 5: not just for the stadium. But you got Taylor Swift,

2910
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:26,800
Speaker 5: the K pop band from Korea. You're going to pack

2911
02:21:26,840 --> 02:21:30,080
Speaker 5: this place. It's worked. It's worked great. Shell and Andelson

2912
02:21:30,200 --> 02:21:32,200
Speaker 5: ended up pulling out his six hundred and fifty million

2913
02:21:32,240 --> 02:21:34,280
Speaker 5: dollars because he couldn't strike a deal with the Raiders

2914
02:21:34,400 --> 02:21:36,280
Speaker 5: to get what he believed was a fair share. But

2915
02:21:36,320 --> 02:21:38,240
Speaker 5: Bank of America came in because there was so much

2916
02:21:38,280 --> 02:21:41,000
Speaker 5: momentum and created alone, and the NFL even helped out

2917
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:43,640
Speaker 5: with a couple hundred million dollars. You could see it.

2918
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:46,160
Speaker 5: It was coming together. You knew how the stadium was

2919
02:21:46,160 --> 02:21:48,480
Speaker 5: going to be paid for. The Raiders were being welcome

2920
02:21:48,520 --> 02:21:51,840
Speaker 5: with open arms. The parallels of the A's and the

2921
02:21:51,920 --> 02:21:55,520
Speaker 5: Raiders there are none. So my beef has been since

2922
02:21:55,600 --> 02:21:58,480
Speaker 5: day one that to merely report that they're coming and

2923
02:21:58,520 --> 02:22:00,879
Speaker 5: this is a done deal, is the response sutable journalism.

2924
02:22:01,040 --> 02:22:02,359
Speaker 5: I give it fifty to fifty.

2925
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:05,600
Speaker 1: Uh one more real fast because we talked about it earlier.

2926
02:22:05,640 --> 02:22:08,039
Speaker 1: Actually we did a topic and you mentioned the Lions.

2927
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:11,480
Speaker 1: About anybody else in the NFC you believe in that

2928
02:22:11,600 --> 02:22:14,960
Speaker 1: can challenge Philadelphia, because it really does seem like Philadelphia

2929
02:22:15,000 --> 02:22:17,359
Speaker 1: is on a different playing field. Who would you argue

2930
02:22:17,640 --> 02:22:19,400
Speaker 1: if you want to pick the Lions, you got right ahead.

2931
02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:21,480
Speaker 1: But who else would you pick in the NFC where

2932
02:22:21,520 --> 02:22:24,600
Speaker 1: you really feel comfortable about them, maybe to the same

2933
02:22:24,640 --> 02:22:26,119
Speaker 1: degree you do Philadelphia.

2934
02:22:26,200 --> 02:22:28,400
Speaker 5: Well, I think it's going to be the usual suspects.

2935
02:22:28,400 --> 02:22:29,640
Speaker 5: I think the forty nine ers are going to be

2936
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:31,960
Speaker 5: very good again because of their defense. I think Seattle

2937
02:22:31,959 --> 02:22:33,800
Speaker 5: actually is going to be very good. Mel kiper thinks

2938
02:22:33,800 --> 02:22:37,920
Speaker 5: they're going to be in the NFC Championship. Of course,

2939
02:22:37,959 --> 02:22:40,360
Speaker 5: the usual suspects Dallas, you never know, they'll get just

2940
02:22:40,440 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 5: their well enough state with Minnesota. He still got to

2941
02:22:42,879 --> 02:22:45,400
Speaker 5: get on the field and play the game. So I

2942
02:22:45,440 --> 02:22:48,840
Speaker 5: think the NFC's a little bit more wide open. The

2943
02:22:48,879 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 5: AFC is where the balance of power is. But I

2944
02:22:51,560 --> 02:22:54,520
Speaker 5: really love what Philadelphia did the rich got richer, and

2945
02:22:54,760 --> 02:22:57,480
Speaker 5: that's how you win games in the NFL by having

2946
02:22:57,480 --> 02:23:01,640
Speaker 5: a stifling defense. So I really think Philadelphia did get richer.

2947
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:06,039
Speaker 5: And unless they're our injuries or something unforeseen, it looks

2948
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:07,000
Speaker 5: like it's there is to lose.

2949
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:07,560
Speaker 3: Berne.

2950
02:23:07,600 --> 02:23:10,040
Speaker 2: We just got about, you know, thirty seconds a minute

2951
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:12,360
Speaker 2: left here. Just tell us about the scene for the

2952
02:23:12,400 --> 02:23:14,279
Speaker 2: derby in Vegas today.

2953
02:23:14,480 --> 02:23:17,640
Speaker 5: Absolute pandemonium. You can even see it on Twitter. The

2954
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:20,440
Speaker 5: craziness at the South Point was beyond belief. There was

2955
02:23:20,480 --> 02:23:22,720
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty five thousand people at churnch Hill Downs.

2956
02:23:22,720 --> 02:23:24,000
Speaker 5: The handle is going to be around one hundred and

2957
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:27,640
Speaker 5: eighty million dollars. Listen, we don't have royalty in this country, right.

2958
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 5: Our athletes and our entertainers and even our horses, I

2959
02:23:30,800 --> 02:23:33,720
Speaker 5: guess are our royalty. So the summerize the Kentucky Derby

2960
02:23:33,760 --> 02:23:35,640
Speaker 5: is much more than a horse race. It's a culture

2961
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:39,680
Speaker 5: icon because it celebrates you know, dressing up, food, pleasure, partying,

2962
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:42,440
Speaker 5: and a sporting event that was betting. So and by

2963
02:23:42,440 --> 02:23:44,199
Speaker 5: the way, one last thing, I'll let you guys run.

2964
02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:48,600
Speaker 5: Congratulations to Bronnie James, and I certainly can understand lebron

2965
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Speaker 5: Jeames excitement because I know I was the first member

2966
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Speaker 5: of my family to attend high school.

2967
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Speaker 2: Oh, Bertie, all right, Bertie will be listening to the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour The Bernie Fratto Show, coming to

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Speaker 2: two am Eastern Time. Bernie taking you all the way

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Speaker 2: till six am. Loaded show. He's gonna cover everything he

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Speaker 2: just covered in more. Bernie, thank you for the time,

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Speaker 2: my friend. We appreciate it and we'll talk.

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Speaker 1: To you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thanks, guys, appreciate it.

2975
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Speaker 2: file time today, let's toss it over the news desk.

2981
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Speaker 2: Nave to Seger, what's trending? My friend?

2982
02:24:30,480 --> 02:24:32,800
Speaker 7: He is correct that the Derby is not just a

2983
02:24:32,840 --> 02:24:35,920
Speaker 7: horse race, and the TV ratings every year prove that out.

2984
02:24:36,120 --> 02:24:39,080
Speaker 7: We talked about how great the Golden State versus Laker

2985
02:24:39,200 --> 02:24:42,439
Speaker 7: ratings have been in this second round of the NBA postseason.

2986
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:46,320
Speaker 7: Last year's Kentucky Derby got double the ratings of what

2987
02:24:46,520 --> 02:24:48,720
Speaker 7: Golden State and the Lakers have been. I don't know

2988
02:24:48,760 --> 02:24:50,920
Speaker 7: what they're gonna get today, but it's usually pretty good,

2989
02:24:50,920 --> 02:24:53,200
Speaker 7: and as you mentioned, wasn't a lot of competition in

2990
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:57,240
Speaker 7: sports up against them. Today we had Lakers and Miami

2991
02:24:57,320 --> 02:24:59,600
Speaker 7: each winning. Let's talk about the derby while we're on

2992
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:02,480
Speaker 7: the sub The winner was Mage at fifteen to one odds.

2993
02:25:02,520 --> 02:25:05,840
Speaker 7: Two Pills finished second. The favorite, Angel of Empire was third.

2994
02:25:06,160 --> 02:25:08,879
Speaker 7: Hall of Fame jockey Javier Castiano snapped an Oho for

2995
02:25:08,959 --> 02:25:11,560
Speaker 7: fifteen streak in the derby. Attendance was one hundred and

2996
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:14,520
Speaker 7: fifty thousand. Mage did not race as a two year

2997
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,920
Speaker 7: old had only one win in three previous races. Forte,

2998
02:25:17,959 --> 02:25:20,360
Speaker 7: the early favorite, was scratched this morning, one of five

2999
02:25:20,440 --> 02:25:22,760
Speaker 7: horses that dropped out in the days leading up to

3000
02:25:22,800 --> 02:25:26,400
Speaker 7: this race, and two more horses died in earlier races

3001
02:25:26,440 --> 02:25:30,640
Speaker 7: at Churchill Downs today, making it seven in all there

3002
02:25:30,879 --> 02:25:34,520
Speaker 7: this past week. As for the NBA playoffs, Lakers were

3003
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,279
Speaker 7: down eleven in the second quarter to Golden State, trailing

3004
02:25:37,320 --> 02:25:39,800
Speaker 7: forty to twenty nine, and then outscored him by about

3005
02:25:39,840 --> 02:25:42,640
Speaker 7: forty the rest of the way. Final score one twenty

3006
02:25:42,720 --> 02:25:46,440
Speaker 7: seven to ninety seven. Warriors committed nineteen turnovers, shot just

3007
02:25:46,560 --> 02:25:50,400
Speaker 7: under forty percent. Steph Curry had twenty three points. Lebron

3008
02:25:50,480 --> 02:25:52,360
Speaker 7: James in the first quarter tonight, did not have a

3009
02:25:52,360 --> 02:25:54,160
Speaker 7: shot from the field, did not have a shot for

3010
02:25:54,200 --> 02:25:56,640
Speaker 7: the foul line. That's a first in his playoff career,

3011
02:25:56,920 --> 02:25:59,760
Speaker 7: and yet he winds up with twenty one points, eight assists,

3012
02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:02,720
Speaker 7: no turnovers, did not commit a foul. He had yet

3013
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:06,199
Speaker 7: another playoff game with at least twenty points, five rebounds,

3014
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:08,959
Speaker 7: five assists. He has nearly two hundred such games in

3015
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:13,039
Speaker 7: his long postseason career. The next two players on the

3016
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:15,680
Speaker 7: list Larry Bird Michael Jordan, they don't have two hundred

3017
02:26:15,760 --> 02:26:19,960
Speaker 7: such games combined in their postseason careers. According to stat Mus,

3018
02:26:20,440 --> 02:26:23,680
Speaker 7: He's great, He's still great, and Anthony Davis was great

3019
02:26:23,720 --> 02:26:27,080
Speaker 7: tonight twenty five points, thirteen rebounds, D'Angelo Russell at twenty

3020
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:29,560
Speaker 7: one points. The Lakers, up two games to one, LA

3021
02:26:29,600 --> 02:26:32,400
Speaker 7: will host Game four late Monday night. In the East,

3022
02:26:32,440 --> 02:26:35,520
Speaker 7: eight seed, Miami is ahead two games to one after

3023
02:26:35,560 --> 02:26:38,240
Speaker 7: beating up New York one oh five eighty six for

3024
02:26:38,320 --> 02:26:40,360
Speaker 7: the next that eighty six points, their fewest in a

3025
02:26:40,400 --> 02:26:43,560
Speaker 7: game since November. Nick shot thirty four percent from the

3026
02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:47,119
Speaker 7: floor from three point range, eight for forty. Jalen Brunson

3027
02:26:47,200 --> 02:26:50,000
Speaker 7: twenty points, but Brunson and Julius Randall from three point

3028
02:26:50,080 --> 02:26:51,520
Speaker 7: range were zero for ten in.

3029
02:26:51,520 --> 02:26:52,240
Speaker 3: The road loss.

3030
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:54,960
Speaker 7: Jimmy Butler did play, missed the previous game with a

3031
02:26:55,000 --> 02:26:58,360
Speaker 7: sprained ankle. He had twenty eight points. Max Strews nineteen points.

3032
02:26:58,640 --> 02:27:02,200
Speaker 7: Game four in Miami on Monday. By the way, tomorrow,

3033
02:27:02,280 --> 02:27:04,879
Speaker 7: Boston up two games to one, plays at Philadelphia, and

3034
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:07,400
Speaker 7: then tomorrow night, Denver, leading two games to one, is

3035
02:27:07,440 --> 02:27:10,240
Speaker 7: at Phoenix. Suns guard Chris Paul missed the last game

3036
02:27:10,280 --> 02:27:13,600
Speaker 7: with his straying groin Stanley Cup playoffs. Edmonton led four

3037
02:27:13,600 --> 02:27:15,680
Speaker 7: to nothing at Vegas in the first period and beat

3038
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,080
Speaker 7: him five to one. Series tied at one three hockey

3039
02:27:18,120 --> 02:27:21,000
Speaker 7: games tomorrow. The New York Rangers parted ways with coach

3040
02:27:21,080 --> 02:27:24,720
Speaker 7: Gerard Gallant. NASCAR's on FS one tomorrow from Kansas, three

3041
02:27:24,760 --> 02:27:29,160
Speaker 7: pm Eastern time. No Infinity race this weekend. NFL schedule

3042
02:27:29,200 --> 02:27:31,160
Speaker 7: is due to come outs in less than a week,

3043
02:27:31,200 --> 02:27:33,560
Speaker 7: and a German newspaper says the Patriots will play the

3044
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:37,320
Speaker 7: Saints in Germany in November and that Kansas City reportedly

3045
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:41,280
Speaker 7: will play Chicago in Germany this coming season. Three late

3046
02:27:41,360 --> 02:27:44,480
Speaker 7: games in baseball, Seattle with seven runs in the bottom

3047
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:46,960
Speaker 7: of the eighth for a seven to three lead, all

3048
02:27:47,000 --> 02:27:48,879
Speaker 7: of those seven, by the way, coming with two outs.

3049
02:27:48,879 --> 02:27:51,279
Speaker 7: They held on for a seven to five win over Houston.

3050
02:27:51,760 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 7: Texas won ten to one over the Angels, ending the

3051
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:57,120
Speaker 7: Halos five game winning streak. Seven runs top of the

3052
02:27:57,200 --> 02:27:59,320
Speaker 7: ninth for the Rangers, winning pitcher Nathan of All the

3053
02:27:59,320 --> 02:28:02,080
Speaker 7: eight scoreless, and the Dodgers won two to one at

3054
02:28:02,080 --> 02:28:05,000
Speaker 7: San Diego, winning pitcher Dustin May four and one, six

3055
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:08,240
Speaker 7: scoreless innings, six strikeouts, the loss of Blake Snell, who's

3056
02:28:08,240 --> 02:28:11,320
Speaker 7: one in five. Fernando Tatist Junior did have three hits,

3057
02:28:11,320 --> 02:28:13,279
Speaker 7: but the rest of the Padres were two for twenty

3058
02:28:13,280 --> 02:28:16,600
Speaker 7: eight with ten strikeouts. Chris Taylor hit a two run homer.

3059
02:28:16,879 --> 02:28:19,720
Speaker 7: Aside from that at bat, the Dodger offense was two

3060
02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 7: for twenty nine, but they got the victory. Boston won

3061
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:26,960
Speaker 7: its eighth straight game Atlanta edge Baltimore Yankees won at

3062
02:28:26,959 --> 02:28:30,199
Speaker 7: Tampa Bay. Detroit sent Saint Louis to an eight straight

3063
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:32,280
Speaker 7: loss six five and ten innings by the way I

3064
02:28:32,320 --> 02:28:35,200
Speaker 7: mentioned the Dodger game tonight. Manager Dave Roberts was not there.

3065
02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:38,240
Speaker 7: He was at Loyola Marrimount today seeing his son graduate

3066
02:28:38,320 --> 02:28:39,760
Speaker 7: from college instead.

3067
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:43,400
Speaker 2: Back to you, thank you very much, Steve de Sager Sega,

3068
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:46,680
Speaker 2: have a great evening. We'll see you tomorrow. Fox Sports

3069
02:28:46,720 --> 02:28:49,680
Speaker 2: Radio Ra Torres Jason Martin broadcasting live from thee tyreck

3070
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:52,160
Speaker 2: dot com studios. You know, Jason, this story from a

3071
02:28:52,200 --> 02:28:56,520
Speaker 2: few days ago. But Disager just mentioned right now that

3072
02:28:56,520 --> 02:28:59,320
Speaker 2: that the NFL is now scheduling more games in Germany,

3073
02:28:59,640 --> 02:29:02,680
Speaker 2: trying to to expand the footprint of the league Saints

3074
02:29:02,720 --> 02:29:05,119
Speaker 2: Patriots next year. Don't think that's gonna help the brand

3075
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:09,120
Speaker 2: in Munich. But anyway, neither here nor there. But it's

3076
02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:13,480
Speaker 2: interesting because a college conference is following suit. I'm not

3077
02:29:13,480 --> 02:29:15,760
Speaker 2: sure if you saw this, but this week the Big Twelve,

3078
02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:19,000
Speaker 2: well it was a report, nothing's official yet, but the

3079
02:29:19,000 --> 02:29:21,320
Speaker 2: Big Twelve is going to try to play at least

3080
02:29:21,400 --> 02:29:24,960
Speaker 2: one football game and at least one basketball game in

3081
02:29:25,000 --> 02:29:28,200
Speaker 2: Mexico this coming year. The idea being it's mostly a

3082
02:29:28,280 --> 02:29:33,520
Speaker 2: Southwestern based sport, both mostly about Southwestern based conference. You're

3083
02:29:33,520 --> 02:29:36,880
Speaker 2: gonna have Houston joining TCU Baylor, Texas Tech, the Oklahoma

3084
02:29:36,920 --> 02:29:39,840
Speaker 2: Oklahoma or excuse me, Oklahoma State. No Oklahoma, but Oklahoma

3085
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:42,920
Speaker 2: State will be there. And Brett you or Mark, they're

3086
02:29:43,040 --> 02:29:47,600
Speaker 2: very visionary. Commissioner wants to try and bring Big twelve

3087
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:51,320
Speaker 2: football and basketball to Mexico. I got a couple thoughts

3088
02:29:51,320 --> 02:29:53,160
Speaker 2: on it. I'm curious what you think about this, this

3089
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:54,120
Speaker 2: news that came out this week.

3090
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:57,240
Speaker 1: First thing I would say is I think if you're

3091
02:29:57,320 --> 02:30:02,240
Speaker 1: not this new Big Tech or the SEC, you've got

3092
02:30:02,280 --> 02:30:05,600
Speaker 1: to start thinking outside the box and being creative. And

3093
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:09,240
Speaker 1: so I like the thought of, well, let's go to

3094
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:12,879
Speaker 1: a place where they usually come out for American sports.

3095
02:30:12,879 --> 02:30:15,000
Speaker 1: When we go there, whether it's an NFL game with

3096
02:30:15,120 --> 02:30:18,560
Speaker 1: mediocre teams, or whether or not it's an MLB game

3097
02:30:18,600 --> 02:30:21,959
Speaker 1: where there's forty thousand home runs being hit, whatever it is,

3098
02:30:22,440 --> 02:30:26,480
Speaker 1: seems like Mexico comes out for those kinds of things.

3099
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:29,600
Speaker 1: So I think this is worth an experiment. Like if

3100
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:32,080
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, then you don't continue to do it.

3101
02:30:32,120 --> 02:30:35,760
Speaker 1: But if it does work, maybe you expand your fan

3102
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 1: footprint a bit. Maybe you're able to draw in some

3103
02:30:39,680 --> 02:30:45,120
Speaker 1: people that are from a geography standpoint, relatively close to

3104
02:30:45,240 --> 02:30:48,120
Speaker 1: kind of the fulcrum of your conference, to pay a

3105
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:50,879
Speaker 1: little bit more attention to what's happening within your league.

3106
02:30:50,959 --> 02:30:53,000
Speaker 1: There's a whole lot of people down there. That's a

3107
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,000
Speaker 1: whole lot of eyeballs, it's a whole lot of wallets,

3108
02:30:55,080 --> 02:30:57,520
Speaker 1: it's a whole lot of it's a whole lot of exposure.

3109
02:30:58,080 --> 02:31:00,400
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why you don't do this

3110
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:03,080
Speaker 1: if you're the Big twelve, because you're trying to do

3111
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:07,520
Speaker 1: anything that you can to stay relevant. And so I

3112
02:31:07,560 --> 02:31:09,800
Speaker 1: actually I applaud this move because I think it is

3113
02:31:09,879 --> 02:31:10,680
Speaker 1: forward thinking.

3114
02:31:11,160 --> 02:31:14,320
Speaker 2: So I actually I tend to agree is I think

3115
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:18,320
Speaker 2: just because something may or may not work doesn't mean

3116
02:31:18,360 --> 02:31:20,160
Speaker 2: that it's not worth the risk and doesn't mean that

3117
02:31:20,200 --> 02:31:22,600
Speaker 2: it's a bad idea. And that first of all, I

3118
02:31:22,600 --> 02:31:25,400
Speaker 2: think your point on you know, if you're not the SEC,

3119
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:26,960
Speaker 2: if you're not the Big ten, you got to be creative.

3120
02:31:26,959 --> 02:31:29,680
Speaker 2: And this guy, bretty Ormark, is a very creative guy,

3121
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:32,640
Speaker 2: has already come up with a bunch of initiatives and

3122
02:31:32,680 --> 02:31:36,120
Speaker 2: obviously just has the Big twelve in a very stable place,

3123
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:38,879
Speaker 2: as the PAC twelve is kind of teetering on the

3124
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:40,880
Speaker 2: brink of extinction here. If they're not careful don't have

3125
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:42,920
Speaker 2: a TV deal beyond next season.

3126
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:44,720
Speaker 1: So I like it.

3127
02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:49,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll work, only because you want

3128
02:31:49,400 --> 02:31:51,200
Speaker 2: to build that you know, you hope to build a

3129
02:31:51,240 --> 02:31:56,400
Speaker 2: local fan base obviously, and I'm not trying to disparage

3130
02:31:56,440 --> 02:32:01,000
Speaker 2: any people or any country, but it's probably not the

3131
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:04,640
Speaker 2: super most desirable spot for like, you know, if you're

3132
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:08,280
Speaker 2: a TCU fan, to travel to see your team the

3133
02:32:08,320 --> 02:32:11,160
Speaker 2: way it would be if you're playing, you know, a

3134
02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:15,199
Speaker 2: basketball tournament in the Bahamas or in whatever. So there's

3135
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:18,040
Speaker 2: that part, and then, you know, I do think college

3136
02:32:18,080 --> 02:32:21,080
Speaker 2: is a little bit different than the professional ranks. But

3137
02:32:21,160 --> 02:32:24,120
Speaker 2: I'm with you is I have no fundamental issue with

3138
02:32:24,240 --> 02:32:26,600
Speaker 2: trying to be creative, trying to think outside the box,

3139
02:32:26,600 --> 02:32:31,200
Speaker 2: trying to create an event, hopefully expanding your footprint, but

3140
02:32:31,240 --> 02:32:35,000
Speaker 2: then most importantly just doing something interesting and unique that

3141
02:32:35,120 --> 02:32:37,720
Speaker 2: other conferences aren't trying, So I give them credit. I'll

3142
02:32:37,720 --> 02:32:39,600
Speaker 2: be curious to see it. Seems like it's pretty far

3143
02:32:39,640 --> 02:32:41,720
Speaker 2: down the road because there's already rumors that it would

3144
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:46,879
Speaker 2: be a Kansas Houston basketball game. Remember Houston, Cincinnati, BYU,

3145
02:32:46,920 --> 02:32:49,720
Speaker 2: and Central Florida are joining the league this year, so

3146
02:32:49,800 --> 02:32:54,840
Speaker 2: to be a Houston Cincinnati basketball or Houston Houston Kansas

3147
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:58,000
Speaker 2: basketball game. And I don't know that I saw anything

3148
02:32:58,040 --> 02:32:59,960
Speaker 2: on the football side. I think they said either Baile

3149
02:33:00,280 --> 02:33:02,600
Speaker 2: or TCU. So we'll keep an eye on it. But

3150
02:33:03,000 --> 02:33:05,400
Speaker 2: like I said, whether it works or not, I don't

3151
02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:07,920
Speaker 2: hate the idea of trying to get creative. Fox Sports

3152
02:33:07,959 --> 02:33:10,520
Speaker 2: Radio air towards Jason Martin broadcasting live from the Tireck

3153
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:14,440
Speaker 2: dot Com studio. One segment left, we make our picks.

3154
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:16,279
Speaker 2: That's next. Fox Sports Radio.

3155
02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:22,240
Speaker 10: May just take any in here, take nothing on the

3156
02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:26,360
Speaker 10: final sixteenth, then it is going to be leads to

3157
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:29,720
Speaker 10: win the fuck the duchyter me And then it was

3158
02:33:29,760 --> 02:33:32,040
Speaker 10: two films, ain't to the event, final enough photo just

3159
02:33:32,160 --> 02:33:32,879
Speaker 10: harder On's.

3160
02:33:32,760 --> 02:33:35,040
Speaker 1: Fourth mate has done it.

3161
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:38,840
Speaker 10: At two O one point five to seven seconds hundred honey.

3162
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:39,560
Speaker 1: Or festal atone.

3163
02:33:41,400 --> 02:33:45,200
Speaker 2: That was NBC Sports with the call of the Running

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin. I don't know who you bribed in the

3170
02:34:03,480 --> 02:34:06,240
Speaker 2: back here. So Chris, when you were out last week,

3171
02:34:06,320 --> 02:34:09,360
Speaker 2: we found out that this is Jason Martin's favorite song.

3172
02:34:10,320 --> 02:34:15,160
Speaker 2: Alex Alex Prefett, Alex Alex Teyser played it last week.

3173
02:34:15,480 --> 02:34:18,000
Speaker 2: Chris Purfett plays it this week. Jason, you got some

3174
02:34:18,240 --> 02:34:20,440
Speaker 2: good juju going from our board ops over there.

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Speaker 1: So hey, man, I moved the schedule off the front

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Speaker 1: of the refrigerator. Everything's coming up, Jason, Right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Vault. Well, you're not a balls fan. Tennessee tight

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02:34:30,400 --> 02:34:31,160
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 1: Eventually there you go.

3180
02:34:33,480 --> 02:34:37,240
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos winning the Super Bowl, Alabama winning a title,

3181
02:34:37,280 --> 02:34:39,039
Speaker 2: even though we don't know who their quarterback is. They

3182
02:34:39,080 --> 02:34:42,840
Speaker 2: just added some guy from Notre Dame. But hey, everything's

3183
02:34:42,879 --> 02:34:46,560
Speaker 2: coming up, Jason Martin, his favorite songs getting played, all

3184
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:49,040
Speaker 2: that good stuff. Fox Sports Radio er towards Jason Martin

3185
02:34:49,080 --> 02:34:51,600
Speaker 2: taking to the top of the hour. Bernie Frida is next, Jason.

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Speaker 2: Let's get to some picks for Sunday and for the

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02:34:54,640 --> 02:34:55,200
Speaker 2: week as a whole.

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Speaker 1: Chris, when you got Mage in the Kentucky Derby.

3189
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Speaker 2: Oh good, good, good, good, Okay, hey, what about the Preakness.

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Speaker 2: That's the question, what the Preakness?

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02:35:04,360 --> 02:35:06,440
Speaker 1: No second, I actually one was going to ask that

3192
02:35:06,520 --> 02:35:08,280
Speaker 1: about to say her, because he's talking about the ratings

3193
02:35:08,320 --> 02:35:10,640
Speaker 1: for the Kentucky Derby and how high they are, which

3194
02:35:10,680 --> 02:35:13,560
Speaker 1: I get because you tune in almost like you're tuning

3195
02:35:13,600 --> 02:35:15,840
Speaker 1: into the Oscars Red carpet. You want to see who's

3196
02:35:15,879 --> 02:35:17,680
Speaker 1: there and all this kind of stuff, and you get

3197
02:35:17,720 --> 02:35:20,200
Speaker 1: caught up in it, and it's usually not much competition

3198
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:22,119
Speaker 1: against it and all this. What I want to know

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Speaker 1: is how the ratings are for the Preakness and the

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02:35:24,360 --> 02:35:27,760
Speaker 1: Belmont in years where there's not a triple Crown and

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02:35:27,840 --> 02:35:28,800
Speaker 1: things of that nature.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this, one of the funnest sporting

3203
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:34,240
Speaker 2: events I've ever attended was the Preakness. I went two

3204
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:37,040
Speaker 2: years in a row. A little bit of a party,

3205
02:35:37,120 --> 02:35:39,039
Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, you think still got a little bit

3206
02:35:39,080 --> 02:35:42,000
Speaker 2: of a headache from the Preakness when I went a

3207
02:35:42,040 --> 02:35:46,000
Speaker 2: few years back. But let's get to the games tomorrow,

3208
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:51,200
Speaker 2: Boston at Philly. Obviously, that series Boston leads two to one,

3209
02:35:52,400 --> 02:35:55,240
Speaker 2: goes without saying this is essentially a must win game

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Speaker 2: for Boston or for Philly. Excuse me. You fall down

3211
02:35:58,840 --> 02:36:00,640
Speaker 2: three to one, losing back to my games at home.

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02:36:00,680 --> 02:36:03,480
Speaker 2: It feels like the series is just about done. MVP

3213
02:36:03,720 --> 02:36:05,879
Speaker 2: is on the floor. Who you got in this one?

3214
02:36:05,959 --> 02:36:09,800
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum said he was watching mb get his MVP

3215
02:36:09,920 --> 02:36:12,800
Speaker 1: award and he's just I'm really ready to play. I'm

3216
02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:14,680
Speaker 1: glad for Joel, but I want to go get a

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02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:16,960
Speaker 1: win tonight. And then they went and got a win tonight.

3218
02:36:17,879 --> 02:36:21,000
Speaker 1: I don't know this playoffs. I'm gonna go with my gut.

3219
02:36:21,080 --> 02:36:23,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the home teams, say Philadelphia even

3220
02:36:23,640 --> 02:36:24,480
Speaker 1: series two too.

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Speaker 2: I will take the Boston Celtics. I know, I said, oh,

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02:36:29,240 --> 02:36:31,160
Speaker 2: I don't believe in him, and I'm not totally sold. Boston,

3223
02:36:31,160 --> 02:36:33,200
Speaker 2: by the way, a three point favorite, bet down to

3224
02:36:33,240 --> 02:36:38,080
Speaker 2: two and a half earlier today in most sportsbooks. I

3225
02:36:38,200 --> 02:36:40,640
Speaker 2: just think, I don't know. I don't believe in Philly.

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02:36:41,160 --> 02:36:43,080
Speaker 2: You know, Harden had the great game won and has

3227
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:46,039
Speaker 2: struggled since Tyrese Maxett. It feels like they have the

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02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:48,160
Speaker 2: answer for him, and that just puts a lot on

3229
02:36:48,240 --> 02:36:51,840
Speaker 2: Joel MBI's shoulders. I will take Boston to win the

3230
02:36:51,879 --> 02:36:54,640
Speaker 2: game to improve two three to one in this series.

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02:36:55,000 --> 02:36:58,640
Speaker 2: Let's keep it going. Second game tomorrow, late game, eight

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern Time, Denver at Phoenix. Phoenix obviously got the

3233
02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:05,760
Speaker 2: crucial win on Friday night to make it a two

3234
02:37:05,800 --> 02:37:09,320
Speaker 2: to one series deficit for Phoenix. Home team has won

3235
02:37:09,400 --> 02:37:12,600
Speaker 2: all three games to start the series. Phoenix again a

3236
02:37:12,720 --> 02:37:16,600
Speaker 2: three point favorite in this one, Jason, who you got see?

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02:37:16,840 --> 02:37:19,080
Speaker 1: That was my prediction last week is that the home

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02:37:19,120 --> 02:37:21,480
Speaker 1: team would continue winning in this series, and now I'm

3239
02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:23,920
Speaker 1: gonna go against it. I think Denver is gonna beat Phoenix.

3240
02:37:24,360 --> 02:37:26,840
Speaker 1: I saw forty seven and thirty nine. I don't think

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02:37:26,840 --> 02:37:29,680
Speaker 1: they're gonna duplicate that feat. I think Denver takes a

3242
02:37:29,720 --> 02:37:32,720
Speaker 1: stranglehold on this series because I think they're the better team,

3243
02:37:32,840 --> 02:37:36,320
Speaker 1: the better defensive team, the better rebounding team, and the

3244
02:37:36,360 --> 02:37:40,039
Speaker 1: more physical team. I think Denver will win in Phoenix

3245
02:37:40,080 --> 02:37:43,560
Speaker 1: to take a commanding lead three to one. Yeah.

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02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:45,920
Speaker 2: I just don't buy this Phoenix team. I mean I

3247
02:37:45,959 --> 02:37:47,920
Speaker 2: really don't. And I think you know again, it goes

3248
02:37:47,959 --> 02:37:50,160
Speaker 2: back to what you said earlier in the show, Jason, Right.

3249
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean, let's credit Phoenix forgetting the win last night,

3250
02:37:53,959 --> 02:37:56,720
Speaker 2: but when you need the kind of effort that it

3251
02:37:56,760 --> 02:38:00,880
Speaker 2: took to win that game, you know, forty seven points

3252
02:38:00,879 --> 02:38:02,520
Speaker 2: from Devin Booker, which, by the way, I'm not like

3253
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:05,760
Speaker 2: discrediting a forty seven point per not at all, but

3254
02:38:07,120 --> 02:38:10,720
Speaker 2: forty seven from him, thirty nine from Durant. I mean,

3255
02:38:10,760 --> 02:38:13,400
Speaker 2: come on, look at this. Forty seven from him, thirty

3256
02:38:13,480 --> 02:38:16,680
Speaker 2: nine from Durant. Nobody else scored more than seven points

3257
02:38:16,720 --> 02:38:20,160
Speaker 2: in that game. Jason, Like, you know, let's call Spada Spade. Listen,

3258
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Speaker 2: whatever you have to trade for Kevin Durant if you

3259
02:38:23,160 --> 02:38:25,680
Speaker 2: have the opportunity, But they gave up a lot. I

3260
02:38:25,760 --> 02:38:27,879
Speaker 2: have Denver winning this game, and I have Denver closing

3261
02:38:27,879 --> 02:38:31,280
Speaker 2: out the series really quick. Monday, do you believe the

3262
02:38:31,360 --> 02:38:33,640
Speaker 2: Knicks will even things up in Miami or do you

3263
02:38:33,680 --> 02:38:36,200
Speaker 2: believe Miami takes that commanding three to one series lead.

3264
02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:40,480
Speaker 1: I in Jimmy Butler, I trust right now, I'm sticking

3265
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:42,440
Speaker 1: with the Heat. I think the Knicks are a really

3266
02:38:42,480 --> 02:38:44,920
Speaker 1: good team, but I think Butler's on a mission right now,

3267
02:38:45,160 --> 02:38:49,199
Speaker 1: and until proven otherwise, I like them in this series.

3268
02:38:48,879 --> 02:38:50,800
Speaker 2: Best player in the playoffs so far, and probably the

3269
02:38:50,840 --> 02:38:53,480
Speaker 2: best coach in the league in Eric Spolstra. I'm rocking

3270
02:38:53,560 --> 02:38:56,720
Speaker 2: with them as well. I'll jump in on game four

3271
02:38:56,840 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 2: in Warriors Lakers. Maybe I'm dead wrong. Maybe I look

3272
02:39:00,320 --> 02:39:02,400
Speaker 2: I think both these teams are good. I do like

3273
02:39:02,440 --> 02:39:04,400
Speaker 2: the Lakers, though. I think the size of the physicality,

3274
02:39:04,520 --> 02:39:07,800
Speaker 2: the home court advantage on Monday Night will be all

3275
02:39:07,879 --> 02:39:09,920
Speaker 2: the Lakers need. Give me the Lakers to go up

3276
02:39:09,959 --> 02:39:11,920
Speaker 2: three to one on the defending champs. What do you

3277
02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:12,800
Speaker 2: got on Monday, Jason?

3278
02:39:12,840 --> 02:39:15,280
Speaker 1: I got Golden State because it's an even game, right

3279
02:39:15,360 --> 02:39:17,560
Speaker 1: and those are the ones that Anthony Davis doesn't play

3280
02:39:17,560 --> 02:39:20,000
Speaker 1: well in. I don't know. I need to see him

3281
02:39:20,040 --> 02:39:21,879
Speaker 1: do this twice in a row to feel better about

3282
02:39:21,920 --> 02:39:24,320
Speaker 1: the Lakers. So I'll take Golden State to even it.

3283
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:25,560
Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here.

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02:39:25,680 --> 02:39:28,920
Speaker 2: I want to thank the crew, producer Pat Chris Purfett

3285
02:39:29,000 --> 02:39:32,400
Speaker 2: on the board, Desaga on the updates. If you missed anything,

3286
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:34,760
Speaker 2: make sure to go ahead and download the podcast available

3287
02:39:34,840 --> 02:39:38,080
Speaker 2: shortly after the show. That is all for us. I'm

3288
02:39:38,080 --> 02:39:40,680
Speaker 2: actually out next week, Jason, so you have a great time,

3289
02:39:41,080 --> 02:39:43,920
Speaker 2: probably with Arnie Spanier. I know those are two counterintuitive things.

3290
02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:45,560
Speaker 2: It's tough to have a great time. But I'll be

3291
02:39:45,600 --> 02:39:47,959
Speaker 2: back in two weeks. Jason Martin to be back next

3292
02:39:48,360 --> 02:39:51,400
Speaker 2: Bertie Fratto coming up that is The Bertie Frader Show.

3293
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Speaker 1: That's next.

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