Speaker 1: Round round to get around. I get around. It's one
Speaker 1: more thing. I'm strong and getty, one more thing before
Speaker 1: we get to the beach boys and a more deep
Speaker 1: dive discussion of music maybe in general. I saw this
Speaker 1: about the Spice girls, who haven't been a thing for
Speaker 1: what were the Spice girls hotties?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the nineties.
Speaker 3: It's longer ago than I would like to admit.
Speaker 1: And the only one that, like, you know, isn't waiting
Speaker 1: tables as far as I know, it's Victoria Beckham because
Speaker 1: she married you know, the soccer player and became a
Speaker 1: really big deal. She was posh Spice. Well, one of
Speaker 1: the other Spice girls and I don't know which one,
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to google it because I don't care,
Speaker 1: came out and said that they should change their names
Speaker 1: to be more inclusive and wanted to everything to be
Speaker 1: listed on Apple Music and everything is the Spice people
Speaker 1: or something like that. That girls was, you know, because
Speaker 1: of trans Okay, you know what, if you're a trans man,
Speaker 1: do you feel like he can't be I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was, but anyways, parody. So the only Spice
Speaker 1: person that anybody's ever heard of before Victoria Beckham came
Speaker 1: out and said, okay, well we know who was woke Spice,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty funny.
Speaker 3: Dumb ass Spice. Yeah that's good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, more important musically, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys
Speaker 1: has died at age eighty two. Joe for people who
Speaker 1: don't know what was he to the Beach Boys.
Speaker 3: Oh, he was their awe toeur. He was everything.
Speaker 1: If I knew what that more meant, I would be
Speaker 1: highly impressed.
Speaker 3: He was the creative engine of the Beach Boys. He wrote, arranged,
Speaker 3: envisioned not only you know, chord pattern, melody, lyrics, but
Speaker 3: he heard the arrangements in his head, the weird experimental
Speaker 3: sounds and haunting reverby harmonies and all. He just he
Speaker 3: came up with all that. So he like produced the albums. Also, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: he often with other people's help, but so was he.
Speaker 2: It wasn't Mike Love.
Speaker 3: No, it's funny.
Speaker 1: Mike Love, the frontman for the Beach Boys, like the
Speaker 1: least impressive of them all. I think, isn't he musically?
Speaker 1: I mean he could sing.
Speaker 3: Obviously, Yeah it's fine, but yeah he stands there in
Speaker 3: his sailor's hat and sings, which is fine, he made
Speaker 3: the damn good living at it. But yeah, and Brian
Speaker 3: Wilson stopped touring because he was just a little too
Speaker 3: crazy and delicate and had stage fright and all sorts
Speaker 3: of stuff. Did he play instruments and sing, Brian, Yeah,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, he played piano and guitar, and yeah he
Speaker 3: sang lead on a lot of their hits, but he
Speaker 3: just he wouldn't sing it sing live. That was one
Speaker 3: of the cool things about the Beach Boys. And there
Speaker 3: are a couple of bands like this, like the band
Speaker 3: which is one of our mutual you know, musical gods.
Speaker 3: The chief songwriter would say, you know, I think this
Speaker 3: one sound good. If Carl Wilson sung it like some
Speaker 3: of those beautiful God only knows which is a lot
Speaker 3: of high pitch and falsetto, that's Carl Wilson, I believe,
Speaker 3: And Brian would think this sound great of Carl sang it.
Speaker 1: So and Brian, most of the Beach Boys was legit crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, he had some pretty serious mental illness problem.
Speaker 3: He was abused terribly as a child. I didn't know
Speaker 3: what was the name of that that documentary. Yeah, his dad,
Speaker 3: Murray Wilson was uh a harsh, abusive, belittling. He would
Speaker 3: humiliate Brian over and over again when he didn't, you know,
Speaker 3: live up to his expectations.
Speaker 1: Did those his brothers, the other people and the Beach
Speaker 1: Boys are cousins and cousins, but so did it? Was
Speaker 1: it where he's brothers abused also.
Speaker 3: Just Brian And if you've ever known a dysfunctional family,
Speaker 3: often there's one special target of abusive asshole down.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the only target for some weird reason.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, which is horrible. And I'm like not an
Speaker 3: expert on the Beach Boys or anything, but.
Speaker 1: You're more than I am.
Speaker 3: But yeah, he was. He was a torture genius.
Speaker 1: Huh. And then he had that fascination with the Beatles
Speaker 1: because they were at the same time.
Speaker 3: And friendly rivals. Yeah. Those stories are actually really cool
Speaker 3: because each band's album would come out and the other
Speaker 3: Bando'd say, oh my god, that's unbelievably cool. What have
Speaker 3: we got? Where do we go? What do we do?
Speaker 3: So it was a very positive, you know, spurring each
Speaker 3: other forward creatively period.
Speaker 1: I think there's like ab Beach Boys still touring with
Speaker 1: like a bunch of twenty year olds and they call
Speaker 1: themselves at the Beach Boys or something like. Right, you
Speaker 1: can go to your county fair and see them if
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 3: Right, sure, Yeah, so you can get people of pay
Speaker 3: twenty bucks to show up for that, More power to you.
Speaker 3: I'm a capitalist, shameless.
Speaker 1: I was wondering, just since we were talking about music,
Speaker 1: and I know you have strong opinions on much of this.
Speaker 1: What's your least favorite kind of music? Because I like
Speaker 1: a lot of different kinds of music, and like, am
Speaker 1: I getting my car and it might be nine minute
Speaker 1: jazz or it might be two minute pop or who
Speaker 1: knows what, but depending on my mood, what's your least
Speaker 1: favorite kind of music?
Speaker 3: Wow, I'd say Polka.
Speaker 1: Poco PoCA, Polka Big and Sheboygan that's one of my favorite.
Speaker 1: John Candy lines.
Speaker 3: A lot of modern pop music I just can't listen to.
Speaker 1: You just can't listen to it.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's just I can hear exactly what they're doing,
Speaker 3: why they're doing it, and how they did it, and
Speaker 3: it's all corporate crap. It's like, you know, it's like
Speaker 3: going to Ruth's Chris and wolfing down hot dogs, like
Speaker 3: bad hot dogs? Why am I doing this? There? Are delicious?
Speaker 3: You know, mistakes to be consumed, but you know, if
Speaker 3: it makes you happy and lifts the load of life
Speaker 3: off you for a while. Kick out the Jams. M
Speaker 3: efforts to quote the uh, the the MotorCity five, the
Speaker 3: MC five. Yeah, I don't care. I just don't get it. Now,
Speaker 3: there's some music I listened to intellectually and am impressed by,
Speaker 3: but I would never listen to it for fun, like
Speaker 3: electronica and house music and stuff like that. I think, wow,
Speaker 3: that's interesting how they changed the beat. Now they've got
Speaker 3: that little melody and now, oh there's another layer to
Speaker 3: it to keep the dancing people interested, And I think, oh,
Speaker 3: that's cool. But then I'd never listened to it.
Speaker 1: I've been on my Harry Styles kick lately and that
Speaker 1: guy is really something.
Speaker 3: Wow, I should dig in.
Speaker 1: Oh, his first of all his three albums are all
Speaker 1: so different. The first album, every track is a different
Speaker 1: kind of music, which is true. He's closer to like
Speaker 1: David Boi and Prince and Queen than he is anything else.
Speaker 3: But cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very interesting, dude. Why you wear his ladies clothes?
Speaker 1: I have no idea, because he's a strange I am.
Speaker 3: Not knee jerk contemptuous of like modern music or even
Speaker 3: modern pop music. I just need people to direct me
Speaker 3: to the stuff that's good, because I don't have time
Speaker 3: to plow through it. Because when you're a kid, and
Speaker 3: it was one of the great plays, honestly, you plowed
Speaker 3: through all sorts of music to find the stuff you
Speaker 3: really like.
Speaker 1: A yet time. Here's a weird thing that we've talked
Speaker 1: about this before. This is a weird thing that happens
Speaker 1: when you're into some music and it becomes more popular
Speaker 1: and it kind of like ruins it for you, which
Speaker 1: is weird. You know, you should want them to be
Speaker 1: successful and make more money and everything. But like Turnpike Troubadours,
Speaker 1: which I wouldn't have known anybody even had, Like there
Speaker 1: was more than like a hundred people in the country
Speaker 1: that even knew they were. I mean, they're tiny band.
Speaker 1: You could have gone and see him, and maybe you
Speaker 1: still can, but you could have gone and seen him
Speaker 1: with thirty other people at some place in your town
Speaker 1: and you know whatever. And but CBS News did a
Speaker 1: big feature on them on Sunday Morning a week ago.
Speaker 3: And it was weird.
Speaker 1: It gave me in awe, you're gonna show, You're gonna
Speaker 1: tell the whole country about Turnpiketory. I don't want that
Speaker 1: to happen. And it's just, I don't know, it's weird.
Speaker 1: It's disappointing to me. I like, I'm cool because I
Speaker 1: know about them, or just it will ruin it somehow,
Speaker 1: or I don't know, probably won't.
Speaker 3: Sly Stone passed away recently, sly and sly Stone of
Speaker 3: sly in the family Stone and I just got a
Speaker 3: tip on an album to listen to. I've never heard
Speaker 3: that had no hits on it, but they said that's
Speaker 3: the one that really really endures as music making. I
Speaker 3: haven't heard it yet, but I'm fresh from nineteen Rocky's
Speaker 3: younger brother. Uh No, No, different fella, Stone, not stallone.
Speaker 1: He Oh the guy that Trump that has Trump Nixon
Speaker 1: tattooed across his back? Does he the Stone guy that
Speaker 1: helped out Trump? Roger Stone?
Speaker 3: Rogers Stone. Again, different fella a black man for one thing,
Speaker 3: so it's easier to tell him apart from Roger Stone. Okay,
Speaker 3: but one of the great cokeheads ever produced by America. Unfortunately,
Speaker 3: creative genius got onto the Bolivian marching Powder just ruined
Speaker 3: his life.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Michael, I don't know if.
Speaker 2: You guys remember, way back twenty seventeen, they did a
Speaker 2: tribute to him on the Grammys.
Speaker 3: And he came out, yes, briefly.
Speaker 2: It was bizarre because he came out briefly on stage,
Speaker 2: kind of nodded his head, looked at the crowd, and
Speaker 2: then disappeared back in the curtain.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It was weird. Didn't he live up in Plasherville or something?
Speaker 1: We heard from somebody in his band. It was I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was him or somebody in the
Speaker 1: band once years ago.
Speaker 3: I mean he didn't sing or anything. Then say it
Speaker 3: was strange.
Speaker 1: He's like like this, Yeah, walked back.
Speaker 3: Out too bad?
Speaker 1: Funky though fun One more music note that we've also
Speaker 1: discussed a lot which I find interesting. I would love
Speaker 1: if you could take various became wealthy people's careers, put
Speaker 1: him in the modern era where you can't make money
Speaker 1: off of having a hit song. Oh yeah, you make
Speaker 1: nothing off of have a hit song, and see where
Speaker 1: they would be. And one example is currently dating Elizabeth
Speaker 1: Hurley Billy ray Cyrus. She just had her sixtieth birthday.
Speaker 1: Put out some noodie pics with with Billy Ray Cyrus
Speaker 1: and they're together and now at the same age, and
Speaker 1: she still looks fantastic. Of course, how could you tell
Speaker 1: with modern ability to change pictures. But Billy Ray Cyrus
Speaker 1: achy Breaky Heart, you do that now? Congratulations, everybody heard
Speaker 1: your song for six months. You made no money whatsoever.
Speaker 1: Depends on how hard you work, wanting to travel around
Speaker 1: the country playing that song every single night. And he
Speaker 1: and because, oh the reason I thought of this because
Speaker 1: Elizabeth Hurley was visiting him on his nine hundred acre
Speaker 1: ranch in Tennessee with his thirty thousand square foot house
Speaker 1: and all this different sort of stuff. Oh and because
Speaker 1: he got so wealthy. And now I don't know if
Speaker 1: you'd been able to quit your job with having a
Speaker 1: Achey Breaky Heart as a hit.
Speaker 3: Yeah you could if you invested reasonably well, if you
Speaker 3: had like one multi million seller, sure you could live
Speaker 3: off that the rest of your day. Yeah, absolutely, yep,
Speaker 3: good made your whole life well. And I've talked about
Speaker 3: this and I'm not going to name any names. If
Speaker 3: you're a detective, you could probably figure it out hartly
Speaker 3: because this band would just despise my politics. But I
Speaker 3: got to know one member in particular of a nationally
Speaker 3: known band pretty well. And this person who's an incredible musician,
Speaker 3: gives for a long time, gave lessons to kids when
Speaker 3: they weren't on tour, because you're just being in a big,
Speaker 3: famous band. Unless you are a huge, crazy famous band,
Speaker 3: it's a modest living.
Speaker 1: Sure. So I think Billy Ray Cyrus has the same
Speaker 1: size hit now and you find out while he's fictioning
Speaker 1: your air conditioner, Oh you're the guy who had ache,
Speaker 1: you break your heart, I'll be done. Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: then I got into air conditioner repair and now check in.
Speaker 3: With Little Nazax in fifteen years front.
Speaker 1: Yeah, perfect example, perfect example.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess that's it.