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<v Speaker 1>Round round to get around. I get around. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>more thing. I'm strong and getty, one more thing before

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<v Speaker 1>we get to the beach boys and a more deep

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<v Speaker 1>dive discussion of music maybe in general. I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>about the Spice girls, who haven't been a thing for

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<v Speaker 1>what were the Spice girls hotties?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in the nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>It's longer ago than I would like to admit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only one that, like, you know, isn't waiting

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<v Speaker 1>tables as far as I know, it's Victoria Beckham because

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<v Speaker 1>she married you know, the soccer player and became a

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<v Speaker 1>really big deal. She was posh Spice. Well, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the other Spice girls and I don't know which one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not going to google it because I don't care,

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<v Speaker 1>came out and said that they should change their names

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<v Speaker 1>to be more inclusive and wanted to everything to be

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<v Speaker 1>listed on Apple Music and everything is the Spice people

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. That girls was, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>of trans Okay, you know what, if you're a trans man,

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<v Speaker 1>do you feel like he can't be I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it was, but anyways, parody. So the only Spice

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<v Speaker 1>person that anybody's ever heard of before Victoria Beckham came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, okay, well we know who was woke Spice,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Dumb ass Spice. Yeah that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, more important musically, Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys

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<v Speaker 1>has died at age eighty two. Joe for people who

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what was he to the Beach Boys.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, he was their awe toeur. He was everything.

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<v Speaker 1>If I knew what that more meant, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>highly impressed.

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<v Speaker 3>He was the creative engine of the Beach Boys. He wrote, arranged,

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<v Speaker 3>envisioned not only you know, chord pattern, melody, lyrics, but

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<v Speaker 3>he heard the arrangements in his head, the weird experimental

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<v Speaker 3>sounds and haunting reverby harmonies and all. He just he

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<v Speaker 3>came up with all that. So he like produced the albums. Also, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he often with other people's help, but so was he.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't Mike Love.

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Love, the frontman for the Beach Boys, like the

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<v Speaker 1>least impressive of them all. I think, isn't he musically?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he could sing.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Yeah it's fine, but yeah he stands there in

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<v Speaker 3>his sailor's hat and sings, which is fine, he made

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<v Speaker 3>the damn good living at it. But yeah, and Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Wilson stopped touring because he was just a little too

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<v Speaker 3>crazy and delicate and had stage fright and all sorts

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff. Did he play instruments and sing, Brian, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>oh yeah, he played piano and guitar, and yeah he

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<v Speaker 3>sang lead on a lot of their hits, but he

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<v Speaker 3>just he wouldn't sing it sing live. That was one

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<v Speaker 3>of the cool things about the Beach Boys. And there

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<v Speaker 3>are a couple of bands like this, like the band

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<v Speaker 3>which is one of our mutual you know, musical gods.

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<v Speaker 3>The chief songwriter would say, you know, I think this

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<v Speaker 3>one sound good. If Carl Wilson sung it like some

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<v Speaker 3>of those beautiful God only knows which is a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of high pitch and falsetto, that's Carl Wilson, I believe,

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<v Speaker 3>And Brian would think this sound great of Carl sang it.

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<v Speaker 1>So and Brian, most of the Beach Boys was legit crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Yeah, he had some pretty serious mental illness problem.

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<v Speaker 3>He was abused terribly as a child. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 3>what was the name of that that documentary. Yeah, his dad,

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<v Speaker 3>Murray Wilson was uh a harsh, abusive, belittling. He would

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<v Speaker 3>humiliate Brian over and over again when he didn't, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>live up to his expectations.

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<v Speaker 1>Did those his brothers, the other people and the Beach

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<v Speaker 1>Boys are cousins and cousins, but so did it? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it where he's brothers abused also.

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<v Speaker 3>Just Brian And if you've ever known a dysfunctional family,

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<v Speaker 3>often there's one special target of abusive asshole down.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the only target for some weird reason.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, which is horrible. And I'm like not an

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<v Speaker 3>expert on the Beach Boys or anything, but.

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<v Speaker 1>You're more than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, he was. He was a torture genius.

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<v Speaker 1>Huh. And then he had that fascination with the Beatles

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<v Speaker 1>because they were at the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>And friendly rivals. Yeah. Those stories are actually really cool

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<v Speaker 3>because each band's album would come out and the other

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<v Speaker 3>Bando'd say, oh my god, that's unbelievably cool. What have

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<v Speaker 3>we got? Where do we go? What do we do?

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<v Speaker 3>So it was a very positive, you know, spurring each

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<v Speaker 3>other forward creatively period.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's like ab Beach Boys still touring with

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<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of twenty year olds and they call

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<v Speaker 1>themselves at the Beach Boys or something like. Right, you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to your county fair and see them if

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<v Speaker 1>you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, sure, Yeah, so you can get people of pay

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<v Speaker 3>twenty bucks to show up for that, More power to you.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a capitalist, shameless.

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<v Speaker 1>I was wondering, just since we were talking about music,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know you have strong opinions on much of this.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your least favorite kind of music? Because I like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different kinds of music, and like, am

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<v Speaker 1>I getting my car and it might be nine minute

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<v Speaker 1>jazz or it might be two minute pop or who

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<v Speaker 1>knows what, but depending on my mood, what's your least

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<v Speaker 1>favorite kind of music?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'd say Polka.

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<v Speaker 1>Poco PoCA, Polka Big and Sheboygan that's one of my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>John Candy lines.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of modern pop music I just can't listen to.

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<v Speaker 1>You just can't listen to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, it's just I can hear exactly what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>why they're doing it, and how they did it, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's all corporate crap. It's like, you know, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>going to Ruth's Chris and wolfing down hot dogs, like

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<v Speaker 3>bad hot dogs? Why am I doing this? There? Are delicious?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, mistakes to be consumed, but you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>it makes you happy and lifts the load of life

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<v Speaker 3>off you for a while. Kick out the Jams. M

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<v Speaker 3>efforts to quote the uh, the the MotorCity five, the

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<v Speaker 3>MC five. Yeah, I don't care. I just don't get it. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>there's some music I listened to intellectually and am impressed by,

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<v Speaker 3>but I would never listen to it for fun, like

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<v Speaker 3>electronica and house music and stuff like that. I think, wow,

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<v Speaker 3>that's interesting how they changed the beat. Now they've got

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<v Speaker 3>that little melody and now, oh there's another layer to

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<v Speaker 3>it to keep the dancing people interested, And I think, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that's cool. But then I'd never listened to it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on my Harry Styles kick lately and that

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<v Speaker 1>guy is really something.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I should dig in.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, his first of all his three albums are all

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<v Speaker 1>so different. The first album, every track is a different

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<v Speaker 1>kind of music, which is true. He's closer to like

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<v Speaker 1>David Boi and Prince and Queen than he is anything else.

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<v Speaker 3>But cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very interesting, dude. Why you wear his ladies clothes?

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea, because he's a strange I am.

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<v Speaker 3>Not knee jerk contemptuous of like modern music or even

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<v Speaker 3>modern pop music. I just need people to direct me

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<v Speaker 3>to the stuff that's good, because I don't have time

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<v Speaker 3>to plow through it. Because when you're a kid, and

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<v Speaker 3>it was one of the great plays, honestly, you plowed

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<v Speaker 3>through all sorts of music to find the stuff you

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<v Speaker 3>really like.

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<v Speaker 1>A yet time. Here's a weird thing that we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this before. This is a weird thing that happens

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<v Speaker 1>when you're into some music and it becomes more popular

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<v Speaker 1>and it kind of like ruins it for you, which

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<v Speaker 1>is weird. You know, you should want them to be

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<v Speaker 1>successful and make more money and everything. But like Turnpike Troubadours,

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<v Speaker 1>which I wouldn't have known anybody even had, Like there

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<v Speaker 1>was more than like a hundred people in the country

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<v Speaker 1>that even knew they were. I mean, they're tiny band.

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<v Speaker 1>You could have gone and see him, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>still can, but you could have gone and seen him

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<v Speaker 1>with thirty other people at some place in your town

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<v Speaker 1>and you know whatever. And but CBS News did a

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<v Speaker 1>big feature on them on Sunday Morning a week ago.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It gave me in awe, you're gonna show, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>tell the whole country about Turnpiketory. I don't want that

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. And it's just, I don't know, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 1>It's disappointing to me. I like, I'm cool because I

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<v Speaker 1>know about them, or just it will ruin it somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>or I don't know, probably won't.

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<v Speaker 3>Sly Stone passed away recently, sly and sly Stone of

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<v Speaker 3>sly in the family Stone and I just got a

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<v Speaker 3>tip on an album to listen to. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 3>that had no hits on it, but they said that's

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<v Speaker 3>the one that really really endures as music making. I

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<v Speaker 3>haven't heard it yet, but I'm fresh from nineteen Rocky's

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<v Speaker 3>younger brother. Uh No, No, different fella, Stone, not stallone.

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<v Speaker 1>He Oh the guy that Trump that has Trump Nixon

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<v Speaker 1>tattooed across his back? Does he the Stone guy that

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<v Speaker 1>helped out Trump? Roger Stone?

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<v Speaker 3>Rogers Stone. Again, different fella a black man for one thing,

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<v Speaker 3>so it's easier to tell him apart from Roger Stone. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>but one of the great cokeheads ever produced by America. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 3>creative genius got onto the Bolivian marching Powder just ruined

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<v Speaker 3>his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yes, Michael, I don't know if.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys remember, way back twenty seventeen, they did a

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<v Speaker 2>tribute to him on the Grammys.

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<v Speaker 3>And he came out, yes, briefly.

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<v Speaker 2>It was bizarre because he came out briefly on stage,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of nodded his head, looked at the crowd, and

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<v Speaker 2>then disappeared back in the curtain.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was weird. Didn't he live up in Plasherville or something?

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<v Speaker 1>We heard from somebody in his band. It was I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was him or somebody in the

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<v Speaker 1>band once years ago.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean he didn't sing or anything. Then say it

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<v Speaker 3>was strange.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like like this, Yeah, walked back.

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<v Speaker 3>Out too bad?

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<v Speaker 1>Funky though fun One more music note that we've also

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<v Speaker 1>discussed a lot which I find interesting. I would love

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<v Speaker 1>if you could take various became wealthy people's careers, put

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<v Speaker 1>him in the modern era where you can't make money

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<v Speaker 1>off of having a hit song. Oh yeah, you make

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<v Speaker 1>nothing off of have a hit song, and see where

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<v Speaker 1>they would be. And one example is currently dating Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 1>Hurley Billy ray Cyrus. She just had her sixtieth birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>Put out some noodie pics with with Billy Ray Cyrus

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<v Speaker 1>and they're together and now at the same age, and

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<v Speaker 1>she still looks fantastic. Of course, how could you tell

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<v Speaker 1>with modern ability to change pictures. But Billy Ray Cyrus

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<v Speaker 1>achy Breaky Heart, you do that now? Congratulations, everybody heard

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<v Speaker 1>your song for six months. You made no money whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>Depends on how hard you work, wanting to travel around

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<v Speaker 1>the country playing that song every single night. And he

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<v Speaker 1>and because, oh the reason I thought of this because

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Hurley was visiting him on his nine hundred acre

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<v Speaker 1>ranch in Tennessee with his thirty thousand square foot house

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<v Speaker 1>and all this different sort of stuff. Oh and because

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<v Speaker 1>he got so wealthy. And now I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you'd been able to quit your job with having a

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<v Speaker 1>Achey Breaky Heart as a hit.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you could if you invested reasonably well, if you

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<v Speaker 3>had like one multi million seller, sure you could live

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<v Speaker 3>off that the rest of your day. Yeah, absolutely, yep,

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<v Speaker 3>good made your whole life well. And I've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>this and I'm not going to name any names. If

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<v Speaker 3>you're a detective, you could probably figure it out hartly

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<v Speaker 3>because this band would just despise my politics. But I

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<v Speaker 3>got to know one member in particular of a nationally

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<v Speaker 3>known band pretty well. And this person who's an incredible musician,

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<v Speaker 3>gives for a long time, gave lessons to kids when

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't on tour, because you're just being in a big,

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<v Speaker 3>famous band. Unless you are a huge, crazy famous band,

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<v Speaker 3>it's a modest living.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure. So I think Billy Ray Cyrus has the same

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<v Speaker 1>size hit now and you find out while he's fictioning

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<v Speaker 1>your air conditioner, Oh you're the guy who had ache,

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<v Speaker 1>you break your heart, I'll be done. Yeah yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I got into air conditioner repair and now check in.

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<v Speaker 3>With Little Nazax in fifteen years front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, perfect example, perfect example.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I guess that's it.