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Speaker 1: off to Kroll and he will walk in for the touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Here's a cutback for the touchdown for Crow, and the

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Speaker 1: Little trick playing and a throw to Baker Mayfield to

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Speaker 1: Crowns are gonna win. The Browns are gonna win. The

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Speaker 1: Browns dead win. The Kaleveland Browns wipe out a fourteen

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Speaker 1: the most infamous losing streaks in the history of American

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Speaker 1: professional sports. Seen win that moves the Browns to one,

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Speaker 1: one and one, And they did it because Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 1: right now with Baker Mayfield, that's how good he looked

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Speaker 1: tough week for Mark, who had a health scare this

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Speaker 1: Mark is going to join me a little bit later

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Speaker 1: because not only did the Browns win, Mark absolutely nailed

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Speaker 1: Louis Cannon, were you tracking this? Yeah, we we tweeted

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Speaker 1: anyone in and be their s slot receiver. You can

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Speaker 1: plug anyone and even when Kobe Fleaner's struggling, he's putting

428
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Speaker 1: up six hundred, seven hundred yards. But I think they've

429
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Speaker 1: gotten to the point here where Drew Brees needs more

430
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: help around him when he's thrown to Austin car at

431
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 1: the end of that game and he can't get on

432
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: the same page as Austin Car. And you have Ben

433
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 1: Watson who is thrown to five times last week for

434
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Speaker 1: a total of nineteen yards. He's thirty eight years old.

435
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: I think they've been trusting that their system is gonna

436
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: fix everything a little too much and not notice that

437
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,400
Speaker 1: the roster is very top heavy, because the Saints at

438
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 1: their best are a spread it spread it out and

439
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: you don't know where the ball is gonna be going

440
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: type of team. How big is the absence of mark

441
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 1: Ingram for the Saints. I don't think it's quite as

442
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: big as say Tray Kwon Smith not playing yet or

443
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Speaker 1: not being not knowing all the wide receiver positions enough

444
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 1: to play yet. To me, it seems more of a

445
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: passing game, and Ben Watson not being this big, leaping

446
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,159
Speaker 1: monster in the end zone that Drew Brees needs it

447
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: tight end. He overthrew Watson once and it felt like

448
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 1: not only Jimmy Graham, but a normal tight end would

449
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: have caught that pass. And and Alvin Kamara has looked great.

450
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 1: He's looked just as good as he did a year ago.

451
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: I do think it makes a big difference, just because

452
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: you need another quality offensive player and it helps you

453
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Speaker 1: diversify when they're both on the field. And Mike Gillies

454
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: has been terrible right and they have bad backups. And

455
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: Cameron Meredith to the guy I haven't even mentioned. He

456
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 1: signed there for good money and he's not even active

457
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Speaker 1: on game days right now. So this is I think

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Speaker 1: a week that Saints fans. I've talked to to a

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Speaker 1: couple of them, uh, including you know, regular listener of

460
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Speaker 1: the show, Adam, who's helped us out over there here.

461
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Speaker 1: They're they're afraid. It is because you don't want to

462
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Speaker 1: be going into Atlanta, Adam, You're not You're you know,

463
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Speaker 1: you don't want to be going into Atlanta feeling like

464
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Speaker 1: you're not at your best. Because this is the game

465
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Speaker 1: that means a lot to Saints fans, and I think

466
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Speaker 1: that the Falcons are coming into this game looking a

467
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Speaker 1: lot better and that's why I'm gonna go lock him up. Wow. Wow,

468
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Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, after all that analysis, I

469
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Speaker 1: bet the Saints drop forty on them. This is such

470
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Speaker 1: an unpredictable rivalry and both teams are so talented that

471
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Speaker 1: that that that's not like that would shock me in

472
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Speaker 1: any way. But I do think that the Falcons are

473
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Speaker 1: a better team right now, and they're at home and uh,

474
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 1: like we said, we like the cannon fodder. Uh in

475
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Week two when it fires off, all those storylines that

476
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 1: people think they figured out, every team in the league

477
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Speaker 1: fire away. The Falcons have no hope in the red

478
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Speaker 1: zone four for four, Uh, in the red zone four

479
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns all by Matt Ryan, two passing, two rushing last week.

480
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Speaker 1: They did not have four red zone touchdowns in any

481
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Speaker 1: game last season. And that's why I was so angry

482
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Speaker 1: about him on my fantasy team. If these are the

483
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 1: Saints that were used to seeing, they will find the

484
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Speaker 1: weaknesses in the Falcons defense. They are shorthanded, they give

485
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: did give up a lot of points to the Panthers.

486
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Speaker 1: So I think you might be onto something, Chris, that

487
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: this could be like a thirty eight to thirty. I

488
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: would not be wanting to lock this game, especially like

489
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: this is your favorite rivalry, rivalry in the league. It's unpredictable.

490
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Speaker 1: I know where it's absolutely unpredictable. Every games unpredicted. I

491
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 1: know what West wants to lock up. It's the next game.

492
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about. The Denver Broncos, you know, undefeated

493
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Speaker 1: in the a f C West after knocking off the

494
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Speaker 1: Raiders in the last seconds uh of Week two. Now

495
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: they travel to Baltimore. A great test here uh for

496
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: the Broncos uh and the Ravens. It will be interesting

497
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: to see how they bounced back, because they definitely after

498
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Speaker 1: basically a cake walk in Week one against the Bills,

499
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Speaker 1: where it's even hard to take anything out of it

500
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: because we have no idea the Bills might be that bad.

501
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals handed it to him a little bit, Greg.

502
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: So the Ravens are stinging after a loss, and the

503
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: and the Broncos are feeling good. They're feeling good, but

504
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: they should feel lucky. I mean, I know it. It's unlucky.

505
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: I mean they should feel lucky that the Broncos gotta

506
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Speaker 1: win last week, because let's not get lets that go

507
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,120
Speaker 1: crazy giving them too much credit as a touchdown favorite

508
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: squeaking out a win over the Raiders. I think their

509
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: secondary is that is the part of the team that

510
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Speaker 1: concerns me because you normally expect that to be a

511
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: real asset, and so you go from one week giving

512
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: up a ton of big plays to Russell Wilson in

513
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to the next week letting Derrik Cargo for

514
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: thirty two and almost being a little too conservative. This

515
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: is another great matchup. I don't think Joe Flacco is

516
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,399
Speaker 1: a guy that should scare you, but I'm wondering, like,

517
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: is this is this plus Broncos secondary with some of

518
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,360
Speaker 1: the talent that they've had over the years totally gone

519
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: because they have not looked good advances. Joseph is not

520
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: happy with his secondary, especially as cornerbacks, and wants them

521
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,120
Speaker 1: to be more aggressive. But I would take the other

522
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: tech and say they were very unlucky against the Raiders. Uh,

523
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Courtland Sutton and Tim Patrick came within whiskers of outstanding

524
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: touchdown catches. Courtland Sutton and Da Marius Thomas came within

525
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: a whisker of outstanding sideline catches deep down the field.

526
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: They could have had thirty points if if these plays

527
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: are made this this could have been a better game.

528
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: But the secondary is an issue. Um and did you

529
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Speaker 1: guys here are you worried that they threw the bottle

530
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Speaker 1: of Damerius Thomas eleven times and he got eighteen youds.

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Speaker 1: It's one of the worst games, like efficiency wise, any

532
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,159
Speaker 1: quarterback receivers have that. I can remember he played poorly

533
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: and drops were an issue, But it doesn't feel like

534
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: he can't move well anymore or something like that. I

535
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Speaker 1: feel like the talent is still there. How about Tarrell

536
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Speaker 1: Davis Hall of Famer t d saying this week Philip

537
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: Lindsay's gonna break his rushing record for the Broncos. Oh

538
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Speaker 1: what is the rushing record? I think it's seven thousand,

539
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: eight thousand yards. It's doable if you stuck around for

540
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Speaker 1: eight years. But if body is he built for or

541
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Speaker 1: is he more? Guy? It's a complimentary guy. Isn't he

542
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: like a hundred? He he's listed at one sixty five.

543
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 1: He's like the lightest running back I've ever sex? Is

544
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Speaker 1: that if it's what To my point, it's like, listen,

545
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: he's not that great, but if he's muscular. NFL, he's

546
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: listed at one ninety. I don't know why where I

547
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 1: saw he can run inside. That's what's different different about

548
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 1: him compared to other scatbacks. And that play, that long

549
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: running head where he changed direction in mid stride and

550
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: that set him free for that long run. Not many

551
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: guys can do that. He was listed at one six

552
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: in college, so he has put on Whether they're inflate,

553
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: they're probably not inflating. He's put on a lot of

554
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: weight since he was in colerade. He doesn't look under

555
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: one look at him. He looks fine. I think he

556
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 1: can run inside, and I don't think that they're ever

557
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: gonna try to give him twenty. You know, carries a game.

558
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: He's always going to be in a committee attack. But

559
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: he's the real deal. Are you ready to go that

560
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: far that he's gonna have that kind of stay in

561
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Speaker 1: power where eight years from now he's still on the

562
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: broncos I'm not kind, but a Hall of Famer is,

563
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: you know? I mean, he's who who knows if he

564
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. You want to talk unpredictable. If imagine

565
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay winning NFC Rookie of the Year honors over

566
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Speaker 1: se Kwe Barkley, well that that was not surprising, the

567
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: top running back, rookie running back in this class, that

568
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: would be wild. It is pretty amazing after all that time,

569
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: and it's only two weeks. But you're right that Lindsay's

570
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, had as good or better than any running

571
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: back in the league. You're right, dan Um, I'm gonna

572
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: lock up this game. You are heard in Hell. I'm

573
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: looking it up for the Ravens. What whoa right? Ar

574
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: whoa Ravens at um Broncos feeling a little, you know,

575
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: a little too big, pretty heavy. I mean, they're big favorites,

576
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens, the Ravens. That West is in a zone

577
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: right now. He's cancer free, he's two and oh. And

578
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: this is a perfect pick because it's kind of like,

579
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: it's a nice job. He can look in the mirror.

580
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: But even if he was having doubts about looking in

581
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: the mirror, the fact that he's been riding the Broncos,

582
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: you can't fault the guy for this. This is a

583
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: nice little pick. I like, I like what you're doing. Here. Well,

584
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: you know Greg knows this because of his history in

585
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: the desert. When you're on a rule and you're picking

586
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 1: with your mind and not worrying about like what your

587
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: sense is, like you you know, like I know, the

588
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: Ravens are the pick on the blackjack table. If you

589
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: if you start to get hot, that's the time you

590
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: get in. Like I think, when you're when you're in

591
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: a game with no rules, you take like the biggest

592
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: favorite possible every week that no one will give you

593
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: any grief about. And that's the way to go. It's

594
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: still on his way. What are you talking about? I

595
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: picked against an undefeated team this week, but they're like

596
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: six and a half point. I don't care what the

597
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: people in the desert saying. They don't know anything to

598
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: say it. Let's not get crazeds tweak. The people in

599
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: the desert said the Bills are a great team, and

600
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: no team in the NFL's ever a cupcake stick your

601
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 1: desert talk where it don't shine. You don't know anything.

602
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: I just saying, let's calve down about picking a touchdown favorite.

603
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Last week they win by one. Just keep talking up

604
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: the Bills. There's a great NFL team. There are you

605
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: say there are no rules, block, I've I've said this

606
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: a million times. You never appreciated or understand what I'm

607
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: trying to tell you. Chris Wesley, can you look in

608
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: the mirror and absolutely that's all. That's the rule. Yeah,

609
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: that's the rule. I think he picked the wrong fight

610
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: on that one. Let's move on the Cincinnati Bengals two

611
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: and oh and that was a here's a little weird quirk.

612
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: They won each of their first two games where the

613
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: identical score thirty four to twenty three. And now they

614
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: travel to car Lina, Charlotte to be uh exact uh

615
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: to face the Panthers. Um The Steelers off to a

616
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: slow start West the Bengals. Are they now the favorites

617
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: in this division? How hot? How high are you about

618
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: this team? After two weeks? I don't think there is

619
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: a favorite in that division. Like it feels like it's

620
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: thirty three across the board. Steelers, Ravens, Bengals. To me,

621
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: no love for the oh one and one Browns. Browns

622
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: have to win a game ever, like they might have

623
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: earlier on this show. We're really yeah, yeah, no love

624
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 1: for them. I don't trust their coaching STY have never

625
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: have trusted their coaching staff and they usually do the

626
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: wrong thing. And this is a nice opportunity to play

627
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: a banged up Panthers team whose offensive line is still

628
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: a little bit in trouble like this, This is a

629
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: road game that when you looked at the schedule that

630
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: that's a tough matchup. But I feel like the Bengals

631
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: are good enough to hang with anyone. Why not. Not

632
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: only have the Panthers running backs not really run the

633
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: ball well, their run defense disappeared last week and now

634
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: the Bengals are playing without Joe Mick since so that

635
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: would be an interesting matchup. Geo Bernard is a really

636
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: good backup um. One thing I want to see from

637
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: the Panthers d J. Moore needs more playing time. The

638
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: jerryus Right is not like a starting caliber NFL slot receiver.

639
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 1: In my mind. D J. Moore is a playmaker and

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Speaker 1: needs to be on the field. That's one of those

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Speaker 1: things on draft Day you see d G. Moore, d J. Moore,

642
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Speaker 1: you immediately expect people are like, that's their number one receiver,

643
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Speaker 1: and so often when that happens, you get to Week

644
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Speaker 1: one and he's playing twenties snaps between guys that are all,

645
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of replacement level guys like Jarius Right

646
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Speaker 1: and he can't get on the field. That's just how

647
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: the NFL works. You you expect that these rookies that

648
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Speaker 1: you love so much are gonna make a huge impact.

649
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Speaker 1: He's made very little impact. Well, they're giving him the

650
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Speaker 1: cor Daryl Patterson starter Kit, which tells us that he

651
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: probably isn't a great route runner and doesn't know the

652
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Speaker 1: receiver positions that Will we talked about on Wednesday's podcast

653
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Speaker 1: West during our conversation with Will Brinson and check it

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Speaker 1: out if you haven't seen it. And by the while

655
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Speaker 1: I'm here, people have been saying, how do we watch

656
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Speaker 1: the Twitter show? You can just click into it, even

657
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 1: though it's it's not a live show by nature. If

658
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Speaker 1: you find in any of our Twitter profiles in mind,

659
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Speaker 1: I have it pinned on top of my profile, click

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Speaker 1: and you can watch that. I know some people said,

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Speaker 1: is there an audio version of this? I don't think.

662
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Speaker 1: Maybe that changes down the line, but I think that's

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Speaker 1: what the show is. It's our video show. It's a

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Speaker 1: different show than the three audio podcast. We want to

665
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Speaker 1: kind of keep them uh separate, but we can always

666
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Speaker 1: have that conversation. Is there a reason why I couldn't

667
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: also be an audio show. Probably they wouldn't want that

668
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Speaker 1: to be the case because they want you to wet enough.

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Speaker 1: And it's actually it's a show that's driven to be viewed,

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Speaker 1: So I don't I don't want to put out something

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Speaker 1: that has, uh, you know, as an audio show when

672
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Speaker 1: it's really it's it's a visual thing. So let's just

673
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Speaker 1: watch it on Twitter, enjoy it. It's something we're proud

674
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Speaker 1: of and excited to do all season. Next show will

675
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Speaker 1: be Tuesday at one thirty Pacific four thirty eastern West.

676
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Speaker 1: On Wednesday show with Will, we talked about how more

677
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Speaker 1: than ever the teams are getting their running backs involved

678
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: in the PA asking game. Christian McCaffrey has a hundred

679
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 1: catches in his first eighteen career games, fourth most in

680
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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl era. So he is a guy from

681
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,959
Speaker 1: day one in there with that team. They have used

682
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Speaker 1: him and uh, he seems to be really hitting a

683
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: stride now. Yeah, I think that's a product of the

684
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Speaker 1: era in which he plays. Plus, there aren't many running

685
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Speaker 1: backs in history have had his skill set. He's he's

686
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Speaker 1: almost as much of a slot receiver as a running,

687
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Speaker 1: tough matchup against a good linebacker group, the Bengals, who

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Speaker 1: I think the even though the numbers aren't quite there

689
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Speaker 1: for them, that some of their parts look really good.

690
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: They have so many good parts on defense, their young

691
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: linebackers Gino Atkins and Dunlop get paid and then they

692
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Speaker 1: come out of the gates on fire. I mean every

693
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Speaker 1: play Dunlop makes seems to be just a massive play

694
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Speaker 1: and Gino that Cain has been dominant. William Jackson's good.

695
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Speaker 1: This is a tough matchup, I think for Jesse Bates

696
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: has been really good at safety. Sam Hubbard was a

697
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: fine They're more complete team than than the Panther. The

698
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Speaker 1: Bengals are quite a complete team. I don't know if

699
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 1: they're perfect, but they do they can do everything well.

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Speaker 1: They don't have a huge week, They are definitely good

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Speaker 1: enough to lose in the for truding the playoffs. Well,

702
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: it does and well that I was gonna say. They

703
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Speaker 1: have that two thousand fifteen feel to them a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Maybe not his dynamic on offense when uh uh Ifford

705
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 1: and Dalton were in the in the zone together, but

706
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Speaker 1: just that you get a much better feeling around this

707
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Speaker 1: team that they feel like this could be an eleven

708
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Speaker 1: five team, but we shall see. It is a wide

709
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Speaker 1: open division. Moving on. Week three is fun because when

710
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Speaker 1: two teams start oh and two, desperation is in the air.

711
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Speaker 1: The Desperation Bowl in Houston. The New York Giants, who

712
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 1: jim or oh and two, after two uninspiring efforts uh

713
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 1: in losses to the Jaguars and Cowboys, especially on offense,

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Speaker 1: travel to Houston to face the Texans Greg Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: Eli manning two quarterbacks that are getting a lot of

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Speaker 1: uh screwtin right now. Uh, forget about that story with

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Speaker 1: Watson and the coach that made the comment down. I'm

718
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: not talking about that. I'm talking about out uh, just

719
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Speaker 1: in general his start to the season. ELI, start your

720
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Speaker 1: QB Index, which you roll out every week. Where where'd

721
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Speaker 1: you put these guys? What's going on? We're waiting. I'm

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Speaker 1: waiting until a week four. I believe I have to

723
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Speaker 1: break out the complete rankings. You gotta see him for

724
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 1: a few weeks. And now we're just I'm writing about

725
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Speaker 1: trends and whatnot, and my trendsfer Deshaun Watson would not

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Speaker 1: be that concerning based on his personal play. They haven't

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Speaker 1: protected well. He hasn't been as explosive, but I think

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Speaker 1: some of that has been the play calling. Just you're

729
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: not getting guys wide open like we did a year ago.

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Speaker 1: He's not quite as athletic maybe or at least showing

731
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Speaker 1: it as he was a year ago. But I think

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Speaker 1: for the most part, you should be pretty happy with

733
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Speaker 1: how he's looked in his first two games coming off

734
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Speaker 1: a torn a c l Eli Manning is a different story.

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Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a rough, rough performance

736
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Speaker 1: a week ago, but I am surprised looking at this game.

737
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Speaker 1: This isn't this isn't gambling advice, but no, no, no

738
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Speaker 1: is it. But it's shocking that the Texans are overwhelming

739
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: favorites in this game because at this point, the Texans

740
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: need to try to win a game, and they have

741
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Speaker 1: been particularly impressive on balance in either one of them,

742
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Speaker 1: and to me, it's a toss up. I don't I

743
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: don't think the Giants are necessarily gonna be some awful

744
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Speaker 1: team just based on what we've seen from the first

745
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Speaker 1: two weeks. DeAndre Hopkins was a deserving All Pro last year,

746
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Speaker 1: and Deshaun Watson deserves the credit he gets, but will

747
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: Fuller's the difference maker on this offense. When he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: they score a lot of points. They moved the ball

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Speaker 1: better and he makes plays. He was excellent last week

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Speaker 1: in that game. UM good ball, playoff and J. J.

751
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,720
Speaker 1: Watt is licking his chops to go against this Giant's

752
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: offensive line. He did not get a sack again last week,

753
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Speaker 1: but seemed to win every single snap. And credit the

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Speaker 1: Titans coaching staff, which coached this game like the super

755
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Speaker 1: Bowl without their top three tackles. UM. At one point,

756
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry have five straight runs out of the Wildcat.

757
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 1: They were doing everything they could to not have blame

758
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: Gabbett dropping deep and what was just missing or blowing

759
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: up the running game. But he's winning the line of

760
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,959
Speaker 1: scrimmage ever since the second half of the season opening

761
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: and to that point, I know you guys don't want

762
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: to say it, but I'll throw it out there. I'm

763
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: not making an excuse for Eli. He's been bad for

764
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: two weeks. But that offensive line, which they put a

765
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: lot of resources into rebuilding it. He did not have

766
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: a prayer against the Cowboys, and the Cowboys are not

767
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, the sack exchange getting better, But he did

768
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,439
Speaker 1: not have a lot of time to operate in that game.

769
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 1: It was not a good performance. And if that offensive line,

770
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 1: their whole theory, and if you want to buy into

771
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Speaker 1: why the Giants decided to stay with ELI, their theory

772
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: was two thousand and seventeen was an absolute disaster. We

773
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: didn't have the right coach in place, We had a

774
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 1: terrible offensive line and injury bad luck. If we get

775
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: a new coach and we get healthy and we redo

776
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: the offensive line, we can still get time a good

777
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: season out of ELI, or maybe two. But if the

778
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: offensive line is still terrible, nothing works. And the bigger,

779
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: the bigger problem to be I can't move and that

780
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: is that's a part of I think maybe even a

781
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: bigger problem has been their run blocking. And I've heard

782
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Speaker 1: some people already criticizing the Iions for taking Sae Kwon Barkley,

783
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Speaker 1: which I think is totally fair when you have all

784
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: these great quarterbacks available at the top and the people

785
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: that are defending the Barkley pick are saying, well, yeah,

786
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: but there's no you know, there's been a ton of

787
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: negative runs for Barkley in both games, by the way,

788
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 1: a lot of negative runs, a lot of second and

789
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Speaker 1: Eleven's a lot of uh, third and nine where Barkley

790
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: gets no yards in the first two and sets up

791
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Eli in a bad spot, and the people that are

792
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: defending the Barkley's pick are saying, yeah, well, there's no

793
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: there's no good run blocking. The line is not good.

794
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that's the point. If you take a

795
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Speaker 1: running back number two and he can't create yardage on

796
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Speaker 1: his own because your line is that bad, then then

797
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: why are you taking a running back. Barkley is not

798
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a great player, I'm sure, but he

799
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: hasn't helped their team right now very much. This uh

800
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: theory that you mentioned with Schermer and Gettleman their entire

801
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: off season. The jury's in and they're handing the judge

802
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 1: of rope right now. This this was a miserable off

803
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: season for the Giants. I mean, it's a it's a

804
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: bit of a metaphor. I mean that seems kind of harsh. West.

805
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: I thought we gotta we could dismiss them as this

806
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: whole like, oh, I'm West, I'm after surgery, I'm kinder

807
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 1: and gentler, and now you just want to like hang people.

808
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: It's a little bit metaphor it's a bit um to

809
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: your point though, Like Sae Kwon, Barkley could be a

810
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: generational talent, But another generational talent talent is Todd Gurley.

811
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,959
Speaker 1: Look at his two thousand sixteen season. His two thousand

812
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: seventh is fair dog. Any running back you need to

813
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: have that we should mention Marcus Marris Sanders. Then you

814
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: can do anything. But sorry, go ahead, No, that's it. No,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting totally scrambled of who who's possibly available in

816
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: this game. Giants need this game, by the way, that

817
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: they both needed they both need who gets it. I

818
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: think the Texans are the better team. I don't trust

819
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: anything about the Giants right now, and you're totally right

820
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: about the offensive line. But Eli has fallen into so

821
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 1: many bad habits and he wants to take the check down.

822
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 1: Now I'm picking the gumocker. I take the Texans, but

823
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it. Moving the Tennessee Tytoons

824
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: one and one. UH beat those Texans last week twenty

825
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: to seventeen, travel to Jacksonville to face the Jacks, who

826
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: looked awesome against the Patriots. UH last Sunday. Marcus Mariotta

827
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:18,800
Speaker 1: practiced again on Thursday, which points to uh him returning

828
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: to action or being on the field as a starter

829
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: in this game. Will it matter? West? I think it

830
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: will and oddly enough that Titans controlled this matchup last year,

831
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 1: winning both games. I don't know if there is physical

832
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: and offense uh. I think both of their tackles did

833
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: returned to practice this week, so that bodes well. One

834
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: player to watch rookie Harold Landry, who miss the first

835
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: game and who was a first round talent who felt

836
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: to the second round, was a terror coming off the

837
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: edge against the Texans. He has power, he has explosion,

838
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 1: he has a dip move which he uses to get

839
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: around the left tackle, and I think he's a transformative

840
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: player for this defense. There a better defense with him

841
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: on the field. And they well, they really needed him

842
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: back or they needed something off of the edge because

843
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,439
Speaker 1: they weren't getting much for Shaan Evans, their first round

844
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: pick hasn't played, plays a different position, but they had

845
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: had even getting much out of him. Uh, you're right,

846
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: Taylor Lawan looks like he will play in this game,

847
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin. They're all pro, probably not back for a

848
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 1: few weeks, and they're hopeful. I think Dennis Kelly, who's

849
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: their swing tackle will will play in this game, and

850
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,760
Speaker 1: and that's that's a big deal. I like, who's who's

851
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: who's gonna be back with Sleman, Taylor, Lauan, Jack the

852
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: River j He's not back Dennis Kelly though, is but

853
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: Jack Conklin, you had a drop prep for Dennis Kelly.

854
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: I was about to be impressed. I was pretty excited

855
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: for that. This is kind of a sneaky huge game though,

856
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: because if the Jaguars win this, there might be a

857
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: little bit of separation in the in the division and

858
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: not a lot of hope that any of these teams

859
00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,720
Speaker 1: are gonna come catch them. Yeah, I think the Jags

860
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: are heading for a first round playoff by I mean,

861
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 1: I know it's early, but that division, they're clearly the

862
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: best team. And I know I've ripped on Boardles, so

863
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: I want to compliment him a little bit. I've called

864
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: him a poor man's Cam Newton because you never know

865
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: from week to week what his mechanics are going to do.

866
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: But I do think he's gotten better at going through

867
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 1: progressions and know he went to take a risk and

868
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,719
Speaker 1: went to dump it off, and I think that he's

869
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: a smarter quarterback than he was a couple of years ago.

870
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,839
Speaker 1: I think his coaching has gotten better. To Yesels done

871
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: a good job. The fact that Mariota is practicing, but

872
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: the coach, Mike Rabel, was still saying that he's like

873
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: working through getting feeling in his fingers. It's only football.

874
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,720
Speaker 1: Would be like Marcus Mariott had still didn't have feeling

875
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: in his fingers a week later, not be that big

876
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: of a deal. Last week it was like it was

877
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, yeah, he's not really feeling his fingers yet,

878
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: so maybe he'll play, maybe he won't. Like that seems

879
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: insane America. Hey, chicks, move aside. This is a man's game.

880
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: I'm Jackel. One more note about the that's a good point, Greig.

881
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: One more note about Leonard Fournette. What was that point.

882
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: It's a brutal game. It's a brutal sport. I don't

883
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 1: think we know for sure that he's starting. By the way,

884
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: it might be blamed gat Um. Leonard Fournette is limited

885
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 1: in practice, but he seems to be headed. Back to

886
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: the line of one note. In four games without that man,

887
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: that offense is way better. They're averaging over thirty points

888
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: a game and have not lost so Leonard Fournette, who

889
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: another running back who was a first round pick, has

890
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: not had that type of impact in Jacksonville. Moving on, Uh,

891
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: here's a nice match up to San Francisco. Forty Niners

892
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: travel to Arrowhead to face the two and O Chiefs.

893
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: The Chiefs have looked awesome, at least on offense to

894
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: two weeks. Patrick Mahomes one another player of the Week award?

895
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: You okay with this one? Yes, I'm okay with this one.

896
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: I still would have Tyreek Hill number one in my

897
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 1: own personal MVP rankings. Okay, I think, but you're no

898
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 1: rant about the player of the week this week with

899
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 1: Paton Mahomes. I think Pat Mahlmes is great. He's gonna

900
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: be a phenomenal quarterback. But Tyreek Hill right now is

901
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: like Randy Moss and his prime. He's going to make

902
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: any quarterback under center throw for a way more yards

903
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: in touchdowns than they would otherwise. You m So, here

904
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: come the Niners who survived against the Lions. UM, curious

905
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: what you guys think about about that game because that

906
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: was one of the ones I watched on Sunday. Um,

907
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: but I have to say, um, Greg, I want to

908
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,319
Speaker 1: see you up on this because I know you did

909
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: write about some cracks in the Jimmy g Vnier through

910
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 1: two weeks, just that he's he's had to a two

911
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: games stretch where he's had struggles that he didn't have

912
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: in any two games stretch happy Feet a year ago.

913
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: Different problems depending on the game happy Feet certainly, and

914
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 1: in Week one game and then week week two, a

915
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: little bit that he just I don't know if he

916
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: froze or he just he just held onto the ball

917
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 1: too long. And the Matt Patricia, who knew knows him

918
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: really well, had a great game plan. They took advantage

919
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: of the lack of talent at wide receiver, man to

920
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: man coverage, whatever it was. Garoppo is holding the ball forever.

921
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: Four of his six sacks he held the ball more

922
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: than seven seconds, which is unheard of, eight seconds and

923
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: one even the two that were close to four or

924
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: five seconds sacks, so he was confused. He had a

925
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: few inaccurate throws, he got bailed out by a bad interception.

926
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: He just hasn't looked as comfortable in these two games.

927
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big deal at all. I

928
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: think every quarterback is going to go through this and

929
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and him will figure it out. But he's

930
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: not playing to start this season at the level that

931
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: he was at last season. There's no question. Yeah. You

932
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: asked if we were worried about him after the first week,

933
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: and I said no, And I'm still not worried about him.

934
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: It's been eight starts in his NFL career. It's not

935
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 1: time for like panic or anything. But I do think

936
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 1: that what separates good from great quarterbacks in the NFL

937
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: is how they play in the red zone. And since

938
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: he's taken over as the forty Niners starter, he's really

939
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: good about moving the offense up and down the field,

940
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: moving the chains, and then once they get to the

941
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 1: red zone. Maybe it's more of a function of who

942
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 1: he's throwing too, and maybe he hasn't figured out road

943
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: zone defenses as well yet, but the offense tends to

944
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: stall when they get to the red zone. And to

945
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: keep an eye that talked about this a little bit

946
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: last week. But the one thing, if you wanna get

947
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 1: super pumped like the Jaguars, a lot of people will

948
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,720
Speaker 1: say right now, who are the who are the favorites

949
00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: to get a buy in the n f C. The

950
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: pass Alise in the mix. But a lot of people

951
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 1: are gonna say Chiefs Jaguars. Well, let's see, Chiefs have

952
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: given up over a thousand yards of total offense in

953
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: their first two weeks. That offense will probably cool off

954
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: a little bit it did last year at least, and

955
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: if it does, the defense is just gonna have to

956
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: be better or they're gonna come back down to Earth

957
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: and Football Outsiders metrics, they are number one in offense,

958
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: number one in special teams, and dead last in defense.

959
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: They call that that's you know, that's called the Golden sombrero. No,

960
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: that's the Golden shower. Well that's also not not typically

961
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: Golden Triumvirate. No, well, the only two are going. Okay,

962
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: let's just move on. We'll work on that. We'll be

963
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: on the Raiders, n Raiders. Oh and two, uh, just

964
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,640
Speaker 1: a really tough rip out your heart lost to the

965
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,959
Speaker 1: Broncos because that team needed to win but they could

966
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: not find a way to close out the game. And

967
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: now they fill Uh, they head to Miami to face

968
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say the surprising offense, but no, they've

969
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: done a nice job with a favorable early schedule. They

970
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: wanted home against the Titans in that in that silly

971
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,440
Speaker 1: seven hour game, and then played pretty well against the

972
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: Jets on the road in a twenty to twelve wins.

973
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: So they're two and oh um West, let's talk some Dolphins.

974
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: Let us talk some Dolphins. Go outside of the move

975
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: that Albert Wilson put on buster screen for the touchdown.

976
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,800
Speaker 1: I was not impressed with this offense in the least

977
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: the Dolphins offense against the Jets, But I am really

978
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: impressed with their defense. And it starts with Robert Quinn,

979
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,320
Speaker 1: who has looked great since the beginning of preseason action.

980
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 1: He looks five years younger. Uh. Devon godchaw at defensive tackle,

981
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: had an awesome game against the Jets, and Minka Fitzpatrick,

982
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: who I included as an honorable mention in my top

983
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 1: ten defensive rookies, and Dolphins fans lost their ever loving minds.

984
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: I'm and going at I know, I know West is

985
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: feeling good when he's just taking shots at entire fan bases. Well,

986
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: the Dolphins fan base is ridiculous. They're the worst fan

987
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: base in the NFL right now, by by absolute far.

988
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: Canada just unpack that a little bit. Yeah, why because

989
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: they like they have less security about themselves than any

990
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: fan base in the league. They know their teams boring

991
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: and direction lists, and they're not gonna go anywhere and

992
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: clip and not only that, I won't want to, Erica,

993
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: You're great at this. Henry is like the rare Dolphins

994
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:28,320
Speaker 1: fan who is able to take a suber minded approach

995
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: to his team. I want one of those social posts, Erica,

996
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: you know you're you're young, You're a millennia. You can

997
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: figure this out, you know, like a picture of West's

998
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: face with a lot of big pull quotes of all

999
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: the things he just said about the Dolphins are insecure. Oh,

1000
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: they're incredibly insecure. Like they they are just riddled with

1001
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: insecurities that fan base and they lash out and every

1002
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: little thing this is that the counterpoint, doesn't that make

1003
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: them somewhat relatable because we all have our insecurities that

1004
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: we wrestle with. No, they're making good fans though they're

1005
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: they're they know their team and they're passionate, which people

1006
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: don't think of The Dolphins fan base is like very

1007
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: passionate because you look at the crowd and they're not

1008
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: there all the time. But I think there are a

1009
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: knowledgeable team and you can tell by the coverage that

1010
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: they got. They have a million blogs and million newspapers

1011
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: and they're all just weep it out Dolphins. We have

1012
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: different definitions that went makes a good fan. I don't

1013
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: think that like knowing only your own team, ignoring the

1014
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: other thirty one teams in the league, and getting overly

1015
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: passionate about everything your team does makes you a great fan.

1016
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: It just makes you narrow minded. Greg, Please, in the future,

1017
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 1: try not to talk over my Miami sound Machine. Try

1018
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: it again. Go for it? Yeah, especially for a team

1019
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: owned by the Miami Sound Machine Gloria. So yeah. Uh.

1020
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: To wrap up an underrated defense and overrated fan base. Okay.

1021
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: And on the Raiders side, uh, they need to win

1022
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,839
Speaker 1: in the worst way. Derek Carr played tremendously well. He should.

1023
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: He deserved to w as much as anybody else. He

1024
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: played like an m v P to be honest with you,

1025
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: but it wasn't enough. And then this week, because this

1026
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: is now, especially when you don't get the w uh

1027
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, the bad vibes. I wish the Raiders had one,

1028
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 1: just to comment. The storm clouds continue to follow. The

1029
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 1: latest was here Jon Gruden and this is seized on

1030
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: in certain corners of the internet. Uh was just a

1031
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: little too easy. It was. It was discussing, you know,

1032
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: their issues getting to the quarterback. Here's what Cruden had

1033
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: to say. It's hard to find a great one. It's

1034
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: hard to find a good one. It's hard to find one.

1035
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: You just said it. And um, you know college football

1036
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: now they're they're not really dropping back to pass and

1037
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,919
Speaker 1: throwing footballs anymore. They're throwing later roles when they're throwing

1038
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: bubble screens and they're running read options. So you gotta

1039
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: train these guys. It takes a little bit of time

1040
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,800
Speaker 1: to uh, to learn how to rush the pastor and

1041
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: we've got some guys that are in that process right now. Yeah,

1042
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: the obvious thing there. And and it's fair to say, though,

1043
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: if you're aware how hard it is, and it's harder

1044
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: than ever to cultivate pass rushing talent at this level.

1045
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: You don't let the best one of the last ten

1046
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: years out the door. But this is just the negativity

1047
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: that's around the Raiders right now. They need to win

1048
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: as badly as anybody. And I think, you know what,

1049
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,720
Speaker 1: I think the Dolphins is gonna give it to him.

1050
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 1: You think he's gonna lock it up. No, I'm not

1051
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up. But I I like the Raiders

1052
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: in this game. I wasn't that. I'm with West. Their

1053
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: defense look good against the Jets. I don't take anything

1054
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: out of the Week one game was just a mess.

1055
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,240
Speaker 1: The defense look good, the offense pedestrian and Ryan Tannehill

1056
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 1: mah yeah, Marshawn yes, Ryan Tannehill met. I think, yeah,

1057
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,920
Speaker 1: we need to see more. But it's been That's kind

1058
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:40,760
Speaker 1: of what he's been under at I think Adam Gates

1059
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: does a good job of not exposing him and not

1060
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,400
Speaker 1: making him the reason that they lose games. But you

1061
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: don't you want a little more out of your franchise.

1062
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: Someone should trade for Raiders safety Karl Joseph. That's what

1063
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna takeaways too. He's not being used on that team,

1064
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: and I think he's got potential. Let's move on the

1065
00:53:56,680 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Oh and two, uh they ill last week

1066
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: to the Chargers. They got killed in Week one by

1067
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Now they travel to Minnesota, Greg, I would

1068
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: imagine the desert people um are pretty confident that Minnesota

1069
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: is going to have their way. It's wild, It's wild.

1070
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,360
Speaker 1: To see a team favored by as much as the

1071
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: Vikings are this early in the season, and of course

1072
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 1: he can't. We won't get into detail. You can't. You

1073
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,280
Speaker 1: can't argue with that, especially because I think the Vikings

1074
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: are showing that they do have a higher ceiling even

1075
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: than they did a year ago because of Kirk Cousins.

1076
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,319
Speaker 1: And that's how can that not get you excited, even

1077
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 1: in a game where Mike Petton had a great plan

1078
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: to stop Kirk Cousins early that they've managed to figure

1079
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: it out during the game. And right now his number

1080
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: is going deep down the field are actually better than

1081
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: they were in Washington, and they were good in Washington,

1082
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,360
Speaker 1: but now, I mean it's early, but he's five or

1083
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: ten throwing deep down the field for something like a

1084
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards, four touchdowns, no interception because he's

1085
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: got better receivers. That's a big are really freaking good, right,

1086
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: So he has better receivers, but a couple of his

1087
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: throwers have also just been wow throws. So it's that

1088
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: combination that just makes you excited thinking there's not a

1089
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:08,839
Speaker 1: lot getting in the way of this team other than

1090
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 1: maybe the offensive line. The offensive line is better than

1091
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 1: people thought it would be. I don't. I don't see

1092
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: that as a weakness at all through time. It's not

1093
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: in the Packers game so much. I agree. And in

1094
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 1: other Buffalo news, Jordan Matthews, who just resigned with the Eagles,

1095
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 1: had this quote this week, which I quite enjoyed. When

1096
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: I was in Buffalo, there was like nothing to do

1097
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 1: there except ellipses, have fun with your wife orson she

1098
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,640
Speaker 1: got pregnant, so we always say we got a Buffalo baby.

1099
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: Ain't nothing to do there except each other. That is

1100
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: an early contender for a quote of the Year. I

1101
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: can't you know, I'm owing two in the locks. I

1102
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: would love to lock up the vikings here, but here

1103
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,800
Speaker 1: here it is a perfect example. Daddy looks in the mirror.

1104
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: I've been monitoring this though, because I'm trying to figure

1105
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: what point is the mirror and I and I figured

1106
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: out it's about a touch down if it's more than

1107
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: a tra if. If you're gonna make a game, I

1108
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 1: feel like it needs to have rules that way too

1109
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 1: much credit credit. Moving on, the Indianapolis Colts are one

1110
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: and one and look pretty damn good against the Redskins,

1111
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 1: especially on defense. Uh in their win in week two,

1112
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: they now travel to Philadelphia and the big story, of

1113
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: course here is Carson Wentz who returns to the lineup

1114
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and not a moment too soon. Yes, you

1115
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: and I and Lindsay spoke about this on Wednesday show.

1116
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,240
Speaker 1: Should we expect Carson Wentz to struggle at first? And

1117
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: my point was, even if he's fully healthy, his surrounding

1118
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,879
Speaker 1: town is so much worse right now. But I thought

1119
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: it was interesting that Jimmy Kemski, who as a beat

1120
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 1: writer for the Eagles, tweeted out that Carson Wentz in

1121
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen hit the best training camp he's ever

1122
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: seen by a quarterback, and he was even better in

1123
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: the two thousand eighteen training camp, and he set Wentz

1124
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 1: to be good right away because Wentz is just that

1125
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,600
Speaker 1: good of a player. Interesting he But then again, training

1126
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: camp to me doesn't indicate much. I mean, Carson Wentz

1127
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: started last season slow. Do you remember the conversation about

1128
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,360
Speaker 1: mid September last year? People were like, Oh, is he

1129
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna come along? I just think to your point, he

1130
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: needs more help from the play calling. They've had a

1131
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: lot of changes in the coaching staff. Is that going

1132
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: to provide a big edge. And then is the running

1133
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: game gonna at least be solid? Is the is the

1134
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: receiver is gonna help him out. I think the defense,

1135
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: especially in this game, should be fine and that they

1136
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: should get the W. And don't forget frank Reich. This

1137
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: is his first game against his old team. He knows

1138
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 1: the tricks, he knows the skeletons in the closet. That's

1139
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: an Advantage's true. Who would have thought three weeks ago

1140
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 1: that when you look at this game, no, nobody would

1141
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 1: be shocked at the Colts win. I'd be surprised, though

1142
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be surprised, but not shocked.

1143
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 1: I would. I would because it's in Philadelphia, and as

1144
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 1: as well as the Cult have played the last couple

1145
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: of weeks, I think the Eagles coming off a loss,

1146
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:05,240
Speaker 1: it's still a big step up to me. And quality

1147
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 1: couple of compliments for the Colts. They are the best

1148
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: third down offense in the league by a wide margin

1149
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: right now, a higher percentage and six more converted third

1150
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: downs in any other team. That's Frank Reich, and that's

1151
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck And that's playing without your left tackle. And

1152
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: I think another thing about Reich compared to the other

1153
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,000
Speaker 1: new coaches, I think it's safe to say the Cults

1154
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: are already finding in identity. Yes, they they looked like

1155
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 1: a totally different team on both sides of the ball.

1156
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: So that credit goes to Eberflus for really changing kind

1157
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: of their physicality and just the way that they look.

1158
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: You're right, I mean Andrew Luck year after year was

1159
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: known for throwing the ball down the field. There's a

1160
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: stat average depth of target, which he would always be

1161
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: near the top of the league. Right now he is

1162
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: dead last an average depth of target. But I think

1163
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: that's good coaching because they don't have great protection and

1164
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 1: they have routes that get guys open quickly and they're

1165
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: getting the ball out of their hand. And it's almost

1166
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 1: like he's kind of building Andrew Luck up in his system.

1167
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: Is gonna be a long term relationship and they're kind

1168
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: of starting at the ground floor, and I think they're

1169
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: just gonna add and add an ad and now the

1170
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: Cults are like one of the teams I'm excited to

1171
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: watch every week. Uh let's pause here for a word

1172
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,800
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1187
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers. Oh, they kissed their sister, they

1188
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 1: laid it on her. Gross champaigns tie against the Vikings.

1189
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: They got screwed. Clay Matthews had to play. Should be

1190
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 1: two and oh right now, but that's not how life works.

1191
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: There one zero and one and now they traveled to

1192
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 1: Washington to face the Redskins Aaron Rodgers versus Alex Smith.

1193
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: I love it a little two thousand five draft heat.

1194
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal didn't even think about that after two weeks.

1195
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: I was kind of thinking big picture that I feel

1196
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: as good about my Super Bowl pick the Green Bay

1197
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: Packers as I did going into the season. Are you

1198
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: concerned at all that Aaron Rodgers was telling the media

1199
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: that he's concerned that his knees not stable and could

1200
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,400
Speaker 1: get worse, Because there goes your super Bowl pick. That

1201
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: is concerning because on one hand, you see that he

1202
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: doesn't practice all week, and that means it's really serious.

1203
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: And then on the other hand, you watch them on

1204
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: Sunday and you think, well, there's I don't know what

1205
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: quarterbacks I would rather have than a gimpie Aaron Rodgers.

1206
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: Maybe none so and then I looked off quick when

1207
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 1: he scrambled for that first round down in dove at

1208
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 1: the right. So then so I don't know what to think.

1209
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,919
Speaker 1: But it is a problem if if you're not gonna

1210
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: be able to get it over. But Aaron Rodgers was

1211
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 1: never the concern. It was. It was everything else. And

1212
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: I do see the defensive pieces coming together, and I

1213
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: think I'm seeing the offense come together enough as as

1214
01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: a whole to think they've got enough here that if

1215
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: they can be peeking by November December, they should be

1216
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: thinking about themselves as one of the real contenders. One

1217
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: of my takeaways from watching the game is that the

1218
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: big Jimmy Graham game is coming soon. They seem like

1219
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,200
Speaker 1: Rogers is looking at him often, and they were just

1220
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: inches away from big plays on self that sandwiches on

1221
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: the line there, Daniel, what's up Jimmy Graham? He looks good.

1222
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: I only know this because West sent sent out a

1223
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 1: tweet earlier this week about your kai four baths. It's

1224
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: gonna cost me, which is not looking good. But yes,

1225
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: I trust your eye more than anyone. But let's see him.

1226
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: Stuff is stature because it's been a while. That hurts

1227
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: that you chust him more than me. Don't. Don't look

1228
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,880
Speaker 1: it that way the way of getting into the conversation.

1229
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,640
Speaker 1: That's fair, But I think it speaks volumes to me

1230
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,800
Speaker 1: that Aaron Rodgers really trusts him right now, already after

1231
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: one week. What was the grand wager? I think it

1232
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: was seven hundred yards. It was a random one, but yeah,

1233
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:30,560
Speaker 1: that he would get under seven hundred yards. You weren't

1234
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 1: buying like you surfaced it, so you should have been.

1235
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: That was it? That was it? It was so sure. Yes,

1236
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure, Okay, I apologize, I'll stand up. We'll see.

1237
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: This is an interesting game though, too. It is. It's

1238
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: not that I I give the Redskins the chance. I'm

1239
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: not jumping off the bandwagon just because they lost last week.

1240
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:49,600
Speaker 1: But this is certainly a tough matchup. I think the

1241
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: Colts did some things to Washington defensively that certainly give

1242
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 1: you pause for concern that they're gonna need to show

1243
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: that they can go down to feel a little bit more.

1244
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna need be consistent week to week running the ball.

1245
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 1: They certainly weren't very good running last week. Do they

1246
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 1: give you pause and cause for concern? I think double up.

1247
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 1: I took a pause, and then I was concerned. During

1248
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: the pause, their wide receivers are unnoticed, Josh Dason and

1249
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: Paul Richardson. They looked into Josh Gordon and then they

1250
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,360
Speaker 1: went out and signed two former first round picks, Brashad

1251
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,240
Speaker 1: Perriman and Michael Floyd. Paul Richardson had a bad drop.

1252
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: Josh Dason isn't making plays. They're always a little and

1253
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: they're always a little hurt though they're a team that

1254
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: on paper, I really liked the wide receivers, but it

1255
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: hasn't It hasn't quite translated, and Crowder hasn't been a

1256
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: huge factor early either. The Brashad Perriman. Never change your

1257
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: profile photo, what is it? Just don't change it. I

1258
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 1: didn't even want to get into it. Just let it

1259
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,720
Speaker 1: be this one forever. Use it because it's one of

1260
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 1: my favorites. Wow, that's it's really derogatory. It's basically, you

1261
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,960
Speaker 1: know how we say on this show, sometimes hair recognized hair.

1262
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: This is like hair has shaming, doesn't recognize hair or

1263
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 1: hair recognizes bad hair. Moving on, it's the Battle of

1264
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Oh my goodness, the Los Angeles Rams, who

1265
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 1: are piling up yardage uh this season. They have one

1266
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: win to show for it in two tries. Now they travel,

1267
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: travel and quotes to the l A coll seem to

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01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,600
Speaker 1: face the Rams, who look as good as anybody in

1269
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: the league right now. Um, but also a little bit

1270
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: of a soft start to their schedule Oakland and Arizona.

1271
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 1: But here's a real test, Chris Wesley, because the Chargers

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01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 1: have the firepower to hang. They had a firepower on

1273
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: offense for sure, and then on defense, Derwin James looks

1274
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: like an early Rookie of the Year favorite. They're using

1275
01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: him like Troy Polamalo. He had one sack, he blew

1276
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: up a handoff to Lashawn McCoy and took down Josh Allen,

1277
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: and then he also forced Josh Allen into Uchenna Nawassu's

1278
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: arm for another sack and he broke up a play

1279
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: down the scene to Charles Clay, this guy is phenomenal.

1280
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: Bad makes you want to see what they're that they

1281
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: look like with Joey Bosa on the field, especially in

1282
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: this game where you're gonna need every last person possible,

1283
01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: because the matchup I'm more excited about is when the

1284
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: Rams defense is on the field. I mean they bring

1285
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: in Sue Peters into leave. I wouldn't say they've been

1286
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: under the radar, but just the nature of the games

1287
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:23,480
Speaker 1: that they played this is to me a much better

1288
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: test because that secondary has been awesome. Peter's and to

1289
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Leabe have looked awesome together and John Johnson in the

1290
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: back row at safety is looking like he love John Johnson.

1291
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,440
Speaker 1: I have since he came in the league and he

1292
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: started already looking like he might be a Pro Bowl

1293
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: type player. Sue had a really good Week two. Again,

1294
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: it was against Arizona, but this is an all star

1295
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 1: looking defense going up against one of the smoothest passing

1296
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: games that's in the entire league. It's about as good

1297
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,800
Speaker 1: a matchup I think, on one side of the ball,

1298
01:05:51,840 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: at least, that you can come up within the NFL

1299
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,600
Speaker 1: right now. I think the Rams have an advantage over

1300
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: a lot of teams in the NFL and that they're

1301
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 1: trying to win. What is this What is that supposed

1302
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 1: to be? They're doing everything possible, salary cap wise and whatnot.

1303
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: So many teams would have said, hey, we're gonna stick

1304
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 1: with Josh Reynolds at wide receiver. We drafted him, we're

1305
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: going to develop him, we're gonna play him. And the

1306
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: Rams said, no, we we want to win. We won

1307
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl. We're gonna go get Brandon Cooks, who's

1308
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: perfect in this offense and he looks good. I think

1309
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,160
Speaker 1: many NFL teams do that. They talked themselves into settling

1310
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: for what they've drafted, what they're trying to develop, instead

1311
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,240
Speaker 1: of saying we want to get as good as we

1312
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: can possibly get. Right now, the offensive line for the

1313
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: Rams has looked really good. I think part of what

1314
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: you're saying, though, West comes down to coaching. You have

1315
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 1: to have a coaching staff that can take good players

1316
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: from other teams and know what to do with him.

1317
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: The Rams, the Rams have that. With that said, I'm

1318
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: not getting I'm not just handing this win to the

1319
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: to the old Ramsey. No, you shouldn't. You're a house

1320
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 1: divided on this one. Rivers looks great so far, and

1321
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: he always looks great. But just right now, the number

1322
01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 1: three offense the Chargers, and Greg loves them and basses

1323
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon to fabric of beautiful way to hit

1324
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: the falsetto. But guess what, screw your Charges. I'm locking

1325
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 1: up the Rams. They're gonna win the Battle of l

1326
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:15,320
Speaker 1: l A. And all your Chargers boys can go home

1327
01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,560
Speaker 1: because they're not ready for this. You're not ready to face.

1328
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: That's a mirror looking right there. I look right in

1329
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: the mirror, and it's not only am I look in

1330
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,440
Speaker 1: the mirror. I see the two of you in the background,

1331
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not And I'm like, hey, yes, my stand

1332
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: up guy. My theory my theory held strong. That's right

1333
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 1: as a touchdown favorite. I like this theory. That's the mirror.

1334
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 1: The mirror is a touchdown you get. You try to

1335
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,600
Speaker 1: pick up a team that's as close to that as possible.

1336
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: You gotta be right on. Moving on so far, Chicago

1337
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:51,560
Speaker 1: Bears uh one on one. They one on Monday night

1338
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Great effort by the defense, Prince and

1339
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: Mukamara with a pick six to put Russell Wilson and

1340
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,480
Speaker 1: company away. Now they travel to Arizona. There are nobody

1341
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,080
Speaker 1: likes to go on the road in the NFL. It's

1342
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: it's hard to win on the road in the NFL.

1343
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 1: But if you have to go on the road right now,

1344
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: maybe outside Buffalo, Arizona is where you want to go.

1345
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: Greg Rosal, I just wanna did they change the name

1346
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:18,240
Speaker 1: for that stadium? By the way, is that's still University

1347
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: of Phoenix Stadium or do they have a crazy name

1348
01:08:20,439 --> 01:08:22,400
Speaker 1: for it. It's a bad sign for this game that

1349
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: this is the lead conversation. I shouldn't have brought that up.

1350
01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: Af the off the top of of this conversation, the

1351
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 1: card Diversity of Phoenix Stadium it still is. Okay, Wait

1352
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 1: they strike stadium naming rights deal with State Farm. It's confusing,

1353
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 1: it's about to become State Farm Stadium, or it already hit. Okay,

1354
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,680
Speaker 1: don't care. Okay, let's let's delete the last minute from

1355
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: the program, Erica, and start right now your thoughts on

1356
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,759
Speaker 1: this game, Greg, I'll tee up you again. The Bears.

1357
01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: There are a few places that a tea months ago

1358
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:58,080
Speaker 1: on the road. Arizona is one of them, because they suck.

1359
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 1: Everyone loves going into State Farm Stadium. Because the Cardinals

1360
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: have an offense that doesn't know what it's doing. Remember

1361
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 1: how we were like, oh, Sam Bradford's coming off the

1362
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: two best seasons of his career. It's like that that

1363
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: you see him in that season opener at that it's

1364
01:09:12,439 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 1: so over. They're averaging four yards per attempt. They've somehow

1365
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: made David Johnson look boring or not much of a

1366
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: and they're going up against a great defense that I

1367
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: really think it's so good on every level. It's rare

1368
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL that defense can just win some games

1369
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: on your own. Bears can win games on their own

1370
01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks and the likes of the Cardinals. They're

1371
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:32,960
Speaker 1: team of e tl Is gonna be two and one.

1372
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: I should have locked this up with that have been allowed. No, no, no,

1373
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: no no. That's weird though, that they're actually less of

1374
01:09:39,360 --> 01:09:42,560
Speaker 1: a favorite con it's not contrary, and they're less of that.

1375
01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 1: I'm with you, it's less than both of your teams.

1376
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 1: So that's that. It breaks your theory because you can't

1377
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 1: pick the team to be my mirror and more like statistical,

1378
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 1: I guess there's a better chance of a quarterback change

1379
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: than the Cardinals winning this. I will say this. I

1380
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: love my friend Jason Zumwalt. He's a listener to every show.

1381
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: I go back years with him. He's a big time

1382
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: Cardinals fan. But if they do not after they get

1383
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: killed in this game, if they are not starting there

1384
01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: freaking rookie for week four, get the Cardinals out of

1385
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: the league. Their season doesn't put them in the cannon

1386
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:20,719
Speaker 1: and fire them away. Their season does not matter until

1387
01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:25,719
Speaker 1: Josh Rosen joined US Arizona Cardinals in modern football, get

1388
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,640
Speaker 1: your rookie quarterback that everybody wants to see in the

1389
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 1: game so your games are watchable. This is rough right now,

1390
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 1: and for the sake of the two Hall of famers

1391
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,360
Speaker 1: on your team, Larry Fitzgerald and Patrick Peterson who are

1392
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,519
Speaker 1: watching a bunch of people go through the motions around them.

1393
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: I also I enjoyed this week the annual UH Midweek

1394
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy mia culpa that said, I'm gonna start pairing

1395
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: back the offense. Every year, whatever team Mike McCoy is running,

1396
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 1: at some point during the season, they're like, Wow, the

1397
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: players don't really understand what's going on. Let's pair back

1398
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,280
Speaker 1: the offense like that. Doesn't that seem like a problem

1399
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,320
Speaker 1: that that has to happen every year? That's it. That's

1400
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Moving on another late game here, the

1401
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 1: Cowboys UH one on one travel to Seattle to face

1402
01:11:06,920 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. This is a I caught a little bit

1403
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 1: of fire on my and my mentions west from Seahawks

1404
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 1: fans that were upset on Wednesday show that I said

1405
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,040
Speaker 1: that the Seahawks don't matter anymore. Don't take it personally. Actually,

1406
01:11:18,040 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: they were more upset that I floated the theory that

1407
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 1: Greg you have that you believe the same that Seahawks

1408
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:27,519
Speaker 1: fan have to be have. Regret that that window is

1409
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 1: now closed on what was a tremendous run of about

1410
01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,680
Speaker 1: seven or eight years. UH they only got the one

1411
01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 1: ring out of it. There's no way any any Seahawks

1412
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: fan you look at you look in the mirror, you

1413
01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,640
Speaker 1: know it that that sucks you. You probably should have

1414
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: no no better. No team had a better core of

1415
01:11:42,360 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 1: stars together longer than the Seahawks, and they got the

1416
01:11:46,720 --> 01:11:49,120
Speaker 1: one rings. Don't get mad at me. I mean you

1417
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,759
Speaker 1: could reopen it next year with a new coach or whatever,

1418
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: you have a quarterback, but you're right, the windows closed.

1419
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,679
Speaker 1: I find Seahawks fans much more palatable when their team stinks. Well,

1420
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: here we are because they're O and two resting, and

1421
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: the Seahawks Twitter is more likable with a down. It's

1422
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 1: also very possible that I've blocked all of them and

1423
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 1: no longer here from Uh the Seattle Seahawks OW and two.

1424
01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: They needed to win. They're desperate for when the Cowboys

1425
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: are no one's definition of a world beater right now,

1426
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: even if they beat the Giant Sun Sunday Night Football West, Uh,

1427
01:12:19,479 --> 01:12:22,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, They're gonna find a way here right at

1428
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:24,200
Speaker 1: the clink. This is a pick them game. I think

1429
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys defense might be the best unit

1430
01:12:28,160 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 1: in this group, and that would have shocked me to

1431
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: say it in the off season, but they've really impressed

1432
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: me so far this year. One thing with the Seahawks,

1433
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: I think they're getting Bobby Wagner back this week. kJ

1434
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 1: Wright still out. But Bobby Wagner when he's on one

1435
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,640
Speaker 1: of the defensive player of the Year candidates in the

1436
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 1: NFL perennially, it seems like. But they had him week

1437
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 1: one and the defense hasn't been the problem. That's the thing.

1438
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: Defense played fine both games. I mean, they certainly gave

1439
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: up a couple of plays against the Broncos they'd like

1440
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,280
Speaker 1: to have back, but they played pretty well against the Bears.

1441
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,839
Speaker 1: They're figuring it out. They're not as talented and Bradley

1442
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,960
Speaker 1: Bradley McDougald, if you didn't know who he was, like

1443
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: he looked like a pro bowler in the first couple

1444
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: of weeks. Like their Frank Clark is playing well. That

1445
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: their their defense is fine, and that's why we can

1446
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,760
Speaker 1: kind of expect this to be a close game. But

1447
01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think the Cowboys defense is actually

1448
01:13:14,520 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: the best group. And I'm not ready you're saying like

1449
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:18,439
Speaker 1: they're not world beaters right now. Let's look, let's let

1450
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:22,719
Speaker 1: it breathe this season, Daniel, that's that's week it's week three.

1451
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: They haven't been world beaters. They might be saying they

1452
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 1: won't become They might, they might be good. This Cowboys team.

1453
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 1: I want to just see it come together. I think

1454
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: they've got enough going for them, really could come together.

1455
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:35,560
Speaker 1: I think they should have been in that mix for

1456
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon. Personally, I still have the same issues about

1457
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,960
Speaker 1: nothing about their offense other than I think Dak Prescott

1458
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: and Ezekie Elliott and Tyrone Smith are all great players,

1459
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 1: and they're on that team. You know, in Zack Martin.

1460
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: They have some great players. I stood by Dak Prescott

1461
01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: for a long time, but the word great should not

1462
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: be that's fair. I shouldn't group him with those other

1463
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,760
Speaker 1: three guys. I think he can be an asset, and

1464
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: he's certainly I don't think he's a lot. I'm beginning

1465
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: to wonder if he's really an asset or if he's

1466
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,240
Speaker 1: just always going to be a mediocre quarterback. He seems

1467
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: to be one of those quarterbacks, say like in Andy Dalton,

1468
01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,679
Speaker 1: who's only as good as the talent around him. See,

1469
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:11,920
Speaker 1: and there are worst quarterbacks to have, but he's not

1470
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 1: the rising tide to be I they've had this day.

1471
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: If they've had the same coordinator for a while, that

1472
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,640
Speaker 1: the talent is certainly that coordinator has not been an

1473
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: asset lately. That's what I'm saying. Let's move to Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football. We've got the lines again. We got him

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football in week one. Now we have

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Speaker 1: them on Sunday Night Football hosting the Patriots. Patriots a

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01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: little bit of humble pie. Uh yeah, that's that's what

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01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: they served on the throne of sleeves last week, Erica.

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01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:45,559
Speaker 1: So I hope you guys all enjoy that stuff with

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Speaker 1: the humble pie. Oh my god, it was pretty aggros

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01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: that like look Tim like looked over at me with

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01:14:55,240 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: a real sense of menace. It was actually Erica. But

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Speaker 1: you you caught. You could have caught a sideways glance

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01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 1: as well. Uh. They get the Patriots coming on. He

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01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,560
Speaker 1: did caught a coming off a bad loss, which I

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01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,839
Speaker 1: would never want to be a team against the Patriots

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01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:10,880
Speaker 1: and Bill Bell, Jick and Tom Brady coming off a bad,

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 1: humbling loss. I think this one can get ugly. Greg,

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Speaker 1: you think the team playing the Patriots is always in

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01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:19,280
Speaker 1: great position? Do you think the Lions are no that

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01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: you you're right that you don't want to play them

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01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: coming off a loss. I think now is a good

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01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:27,000
Speaker 1: time to play the Patriots generally, because I think their

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Speaker 1: offense is gonna be figuring things out for a while.

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01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: I don't think there are a world beating offense, and

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01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 1: they might not be till mid October. But this, on paper,

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01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:39,720
Speaker 1: is a perfect matchup a team that shouldn't be able

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:42,960
Speaker 1: to apply that much pass rush pressure. I know Matt

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Speaker 1: Patricia has been around Tom Brady like he's been around

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, But I think Tom Brady is gonna figure

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01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 1: out whatever the Lions are doing. And the personnel defensively

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01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 1: just isn't there for Detroit. No, it's not, and the

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01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 1: offense just seems out of sinc I'm still waiting to

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:00,760
Speaker 1: hear about this great new ground attack. And I know

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01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,439
Speaker 1: he's played against really good defensive tackles so far, but

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01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 1: Frank rag Now has not been playing well as the

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01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 1: first round draft pick um Matthew Stafford had a handful

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01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 1: of overthrows last week. He's looked bad. They need him

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01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 1: to be remembered. There was talk kind of like, oh,

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01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: this is the year, including by me that maybe Stafford

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01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 1: like is in the top five and he hasn't look

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01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:26,000
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay looks fantastic. Marvin Jones and Matthew Stafford seemed

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01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: to be off by a couple of steps on every throw.

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Speaker 1: I want to I'm really curious. These are two teams

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01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: that have both looked pretty different depending on the week.

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01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: I want to see what Patriots defense shows up. You know,

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01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: I have pretty high hopes for them. Not a good

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01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 1: performance in Jacksonville. Detroit actually did some things against San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: You could have made a case that they they certainly

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01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: could have won that game on the road. It's not

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01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 1: like they were an embarrassment last when when I made

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01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,760
Speaker 1: the point about Frank Reich and finding an identity, Matt

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01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,720
Speaker 1: Patricia's Lions were the team I was thinking of as

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01:16:54,720 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: the contrast team. What are they even close to having

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01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:02,000
Speaker 1: an identity? Uh? The Patriots with Tom Brady since two

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01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 1: thousand ten and eight in prime time games seventy two touchdown,

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 1: sixteen interceptions, over a hundred pass rating. Would you, guys,

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: hazard is that like worse than their normal win loss? Yeah,

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01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: it's about badass, But that's what the Patriots and Tom

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01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: Brady are um Matthew Stafford eighteen prime time games in

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01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:25,519
Speaker 1: his career. Anyone want to hazard to guess how many

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01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:29,160
Speaker 1: wins in prime time for the Lions, and that's Stafford.

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 1: He's got to be like two. And I think he's

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01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:34,519
Speaker 1: below the Dalton prime time I'll go like four, five

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Speaker 1: and thirteen. I'm I'm with Louise Cannon two. Greg hit

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01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: it on the nose, Get to the desert, Greg, five

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01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 1: and thirteen. I knew it was gonna be bad. It

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01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: started off. It started out really bad. Uh, and they

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01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,280
Speaker 1: got some wins in recent years because this is one

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01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: of those stats they tried it out for a while.

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01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,400
Speaker 1: I think that's right at the Dalton line for prime time. Yeah,

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01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: finally Monday Night Football. Oh good job. Esp Ain't got

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01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: lucky on this one because Steelers at Bucks seemed matt

1544
01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. But then Ryan Fitzpatrick took the NFL

1545
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 1: by storm in the first two weeks of the season,

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01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: and he's all of a sudden a hot ticket and

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01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: now he's in primetime against the Steelers team that can't

1548
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 1: stop anybody and can't get a stop on d Really,

1549
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:20,040
Speaker 1: since Ryan Chase her exited the lineup, but there has

1550
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: been no uh. They have not been fixed the problem.

1551
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:25,880
Speaker 1: As a new season begins, they are oh one and one.

1552
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,600
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown that drama this week, He apparently was not

1553
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,760
Speaker 1: excused for practice. He did speak to the media said

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01:18:33,800 --> 01:18:36,400
Speaker 1: he's just pissed. The Patriots suck right now. They're trying

1555
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: to pull it all together. We'll be able to pull

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01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: together against fitz Magic West. The Steelers are allowing about

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: thirty points per game since last December when they lost

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 1: Ryan Shazier. That includes the playoffs. But they're not a

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01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: good defense. Um to me, a good old the record

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01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:59,639
Speaker 1: for most targets in a game because Antonio Brown, when

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01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,960
Speaker 1: he tends to get what most NFL receivers number ones

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01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: tend to get, heavily targeted targets. Brandon Marshall had him

1563
01:19:07,920 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 1: one game with Jake Cutler. It was it was when

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01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:12,960
Speaker 1: he broke the record in two thousand nine with twenty

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01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: one catches. Um, I think Antonio Brown could flirt with

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01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:19,800
Speaker 1: that this week, knowing that it's probably gonna be a

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:24,480
Speaker 1: shootout with Ryan Fitzpatrick and his merry band of basketball

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01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 1: plane wide receivers. So you're not buying that this is

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01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick's last start for Jamis Winston comes in next week. No,

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01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: nobody's behind. I do think, and we talked about on

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01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 1: the Twitter Show. I do think there's a chance that

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01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:40,960
Speaker 1: Winston gets the job back sooner than people expect, because

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01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,599
Speaker 1: as exciting as Ryan Fitzpatrick has been, I think it's

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01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: so easy to forget he's still Ryan Fitzpatrick. We have

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01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: thirteen years of may or may not be better than

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01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. Like I I believe Jamis Winston is better,

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01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: has shown more potential that you drafted him number one

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01:19:56,840 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 1: for reasons. He's but never done anything close to as

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01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:02,720
Speaker 1: good as Fitzpatrick with the Jets. Really, you don't know

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01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:06,120
Speaker 1: he's been a turnover machine. Jamis Winston has that You've

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01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: been grading him on potential for a long time. He's

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01:20:08,760 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't let's talk about what he really is, not

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01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 1: what he could be. Well, he's a backup for now,

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01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: and unless Fitzpatrick totally blows the next two weeks before

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01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: the team's week five by you know, Fitzpatrick's gonna get

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01:20:20,479 --> 01:20:23,080
Speaker 1: a little bit of a longer run. But I disagree.

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Fitzpatrick got first of all. You know, we

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01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: don't need to judge that Jet season, but he had

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01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 1: more dropped interceptions than anyone in the league. You know

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01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: that they certainly had their ups and downs even that year.

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01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: I do think if if you want to go win

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01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: some playoff games, and that is the point, I think

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01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston gives you a better chance to do that

1594
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,320
Speaker 1: long term. I couldn't disagree more. And I think that

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01:20:42,479 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, I've seen Profitball Focus has graded his first

1596
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: two games highest in their history through two games. Football

1597
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: Outsiders has him behind only two thousand and eleven Tom

1598
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,600
Speaker 1: Brady through two games. This guy's legit, and it's in

1599
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,400
Speaker 1: A lot of credit has to go to Todd Monk

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01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: and their offensive coordinator. Receive is are running wide open.

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01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:04,479
Speaker 1: The scheming has them spacing really well right now. The

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01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,639
Speaker 1: Bucks are getting the Steelers at the right time for

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01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: a few different reasons. But one thing we always talk about,

1604
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 1: get the Patriots early because once they get hot and

1605
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: fair enough, that is absolutely true. Steelers are similar. Um

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01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 1: they are nineteen fourteen and one over the first five

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01:21:19,400 --> 01:21:21,679
Speaker 1: last five seasons in their first eight games of the season,

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,000
Speaker 1: twenty six and six over the last eight, So they

1609
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: this is not anything totally new. I know every season

1610
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 1: is different, but that takes them a while to get

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01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:31,760
Speaker 1: cooking and then they start to surge. So I would

1612
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,120
Speaker 1: not be like blown away at the Bucks win this game.

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01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 1: I think No, I wouldn't either. But I do think

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: that the Steelers are too talented to tank the season.

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they tank either, right, even in the

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01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: game last week. I mean it's even in the game

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01:21:44,040 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: last week where they're going up against the Chiefs, Ben

1618
01:21:46,160 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger did a lot of things that made you think like, Okay,

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01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,160
Speaker 1: they're gonna be yeah, I mean, he looked great. They're

1620
01:21:51,160 --> 01:21:54,240
Speaker 1: trying to get James Washington involved. This is an awesome

1621
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,599
Speaker 1: Monday night game to have, Like all the fantasy games

1622
01:21:57,640 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: are gonna go down to this because they're just gonna

1623
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:01,840
Speaker 1: be so many points being scored. And you can see

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01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: this being similar to last week, where it's one something

1625
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 1: like I think it's time to pull the plug on

1626
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Switzer, who I've never seen makeup play in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Hey game passed, by the way, If you want to

1628
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: be like the scientists and then study these games and

1629
01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: then have your own opinions, it's always good. I mean,

1630
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Speaker 1: most opinions should be your own absolutely game Pass seven

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Speaker 1: You can watch last week's show, including an excellent star

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Speaker 1: turned by Matt money Smith at the in the cold open,

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Speaker 1: that's a little jargon for you guys. UM, So we'll

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Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night with our flagship program where

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Speaker 1: we recap all the games that we just previewed, So

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01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: please be there for that. Uh. This is Dan Hansons

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01:22:52,479 --> 01:22:55,639
Speaker 1: signing off for oh and read Mark Sessler's long form

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01:22:55,760 --> 01:23:00,519
Speaker 1: awesome job about decades of brown Spando Dan heads, a

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Speaker 1: sugning off Poor the Mailman, the Old Boss, and the

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Speaker 1: loose Cannon behind the glass. Until Sunday m HM.